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John Conyers and the Constitutional Clock
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
July 25, 2008
Bob Barr, former U.S. rep from Georgia, told Conyers and the House Judiciary Committee earlier today that we face a “Constitutional clock” in this country and that clock is counting down. Conyers and his aides smiled as Barr warned that we are about to lose the republic, probably forever. But then, as Barr is the presidential candidate for the Libertarian party, no doubt the entrenched statists of Conyers ilk do not take him seriously, in fact consider him little more than a momentary amusement in the larger circus sideshow that the very serious matter of impeachment has become.
From the outset, Conyers and the Democrats in control of the House of Representatives, where Barr served as a Republican from 1995 until 2003, have done all they can to make sure the judiciary committee hearing, ironically entitled “Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations,” result anything but an impeachment hearing. It is completely understandable why — because the reputations of Conyers, Pelsoi, and the Democrats are not only on the line, they also stand to be criminally indicted along with Bush and his perfidious neocons. Democrats are up to their eyeballs in criminality.
“In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA’s overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk,” the Washington Post reported last December. “With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan).”
In other words, if Bush and the neocons go down, so will the Democrats, thus Conyers’ reluctance to make the “Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations” hearing anything but a sideshow, a charade, a way to placate the opposition and squander any political capital accumulated by Rep. Dennis Kucinich.
“If you know there is treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself,” Minnesota We Are Change reminded Conyers last year during a videotaped confrontation, a clip included in Alex Jones’ documentary, The 9/11 Chronicles: Part One, Truth Rising. Indeed, Mr. Conyers is well aware of the treason going on and he is obviously attempting to protect his colleagues and derail a sincere investigation by holding a milquetoast hearing that will terminate in a dead end.
“The House Democratic leadership, not interested in a bloody impeachment battle in the last year of Bush’s presidency, steered Kucinich’s resolutions to the Judiciary Committee where they could quietly fade away, but Friday’s hearing gave Kucinich and his allies an opportunity to air their views,” explained Jim Abrams for the Associated Press. In order to put the desired spin on the hearing, Abrams concluded his article by quoting George Mason University School of Law professor Jeremy Rabkin, who said: “The tone of these deliberations is slightly demented. You should all remind yourselves that the rest of the country is not necessarily in this same bubble in which people think it is reasonable to describe the president as if he were Caligula.”
Rabkin has a point. Indeed, the rest of the country is not in the same “bubble” as those of us outraged by the outright subversion of the Constitution and the wholesale trashing of the Bill of Rights. It is not an exaggeration to say far too many Americans are not only unaware of the constitutional crisis underway, they in fact have little comprehension of the Constitution, thanks to the corporate media and public education.
A suggestion offered by Rep. Adam Schiff is commendable, although too late. Schiff proposed the formation of a modern-day Church Committee to start an inquiry, independent of the administration. However, it is no longer the 1970s and there are few people in the Congress with the stomach to participate, let alone support such an investigation. In 2008, the rot and corruption has overtaken the whole of the government. At this point, it needs to be excised like a malignant tumor.
Bob Barr is incorrect. The “Constitutional clock” is not ticking away. It in fact passed zero hour some time ago and has stopped ticking altogether. Conyers’ big tent circus sideshow is nothing short of a big fat period under an exclamation point — the Constitution is a dead letter, the Bill of Rights is moribund, and we live in a dictatorship. At present, we exist in a state of limbo, still hearing the echo of liberty as it rapidly fades. It is only a matter of time now before the jack booted thugs come for us — or those of us who understand the descending peril and voice our collective opposition.
But that’s what PDD51, the Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, and those Halliburton constructed camps are all about.
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July 25th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
And we’re trusting Bob Barr why?
July 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Congress is just a snake pit full of criminals.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
#2 said it spot on
July 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Could they be laughing because they know he’s one of them? He points out this isn’t an impeachment hearing-is this factual, or just more obfuscation and disinfo?
July 25th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
BOB BARR IS EX – CIA. LOOK IT UP. I WILL WRITE IN RON PAUL.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
They are laughing because the room is filled with Freemasons, and they are
not about to do anything serious no matter how grievous the charges may be.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
The Clinton “impeachment” show, of which Bob Barr was front and center leading the way, is the thing that really took impeachment “off the table”…now the country doesn’t “have the stomach” for that sort of partisan bickering even when it is the last gasp of the Republic.
Enjoy the puppet show while it lasts.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
http://www.thereignofchrist.org and http://www.veritas144k.com
The fulfillment of Christianity is at hand!!
“Until we all meet into the unity of faith and of the knowledge of the Son of
God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the age of the
fulness of Christ, doing the truth in charity, we may in all
things grow up in Him Who is the head, even Christ.”
This is accomplished in those who prepare themselves to receive
Christ in His Second Coming when “He shall appear without
sin to them that expect Him unto salvation.” This can only
accomplished in the valid reception of the Holy Eucharist.
If we carry this point a step further, we will see that the revolt
in Heaven by Lucifer has even deeper significance. Not only
did God ask the angels to assist man to come into the image
and likeness of God, but He revealed that in the final New
Creation, God would be ‘All and in all.’
That is, God would be in the angels and in man in the completion of the designs
of His heart from all eternity:
“Lie not one to another,
stripping yourselves of the old man with his deeds, and
putting on the new, him who is renewed unto knowledge,
according to the image of Him that created him, where there
is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision,
Barbarian nor Scythian, bond nor free. But Christ is All and
in all.”
There is neither, bond nor free, angel nor man, but
there is totally a new creature, for man and for angel are one,
that is the new creature, Eucharistic man.
The emergence of the new creature is the realization that there
is no difference of man and angel. The Resurrection of the
Christ, that is, the emergence of the victory of the Divine
Nature in the humanity of man, brings about the completion
of the fulfillment of the design of God from the beginning.
Just as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one, so too the new
creature is the image and likeness of the unity of the Trinity,
for the Holy Eucharist is Jesus, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
He said: “I and the Father are One.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Dr. Weezil, is not most (if not all) of what Bob Barr said not true. People were asking me why I wasn’t celebrating the fourth of July this year and I said celebrate what? They claimed independence and I was telling them about our liberties being taken away and they were looking at me like I was a nutcase, The majority of people are ignorant. Maybe they are just encompassed in their lives too much to care about what is going on.
I think Dr. Weezil was trying to show the government things and since they are all (mostly) corrupt, they just looked at it like, this guy is stupid but let him do his thing so it would be over and done with. Kind of like with me, when I tell people about the NWO and the politics and things like that, they look at me like I’m stupid. Could it possably be that the govermetn just don’t care just like most Americans (sorry to say but true) don’t care. I think its a possibility.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Alex is a Zionist Gate Keeper. He keeps censoring comments with links to the Talmud, Kabballa and The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion. Pay no attention to the “chosen people” behind the curtain. This is very curious coming from “the leader of the truth movement”. Has anyone else figured this out? That would certainly explain the need for a “money bomb”.
How did they get to you Alex? Family? Threats? Money? Whatever it was, shame on you Mr. Jones,
July 25th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Facts are facts.
1. Americans are not Europeans.
2. Europeans don’t really know what a republic is because Europe has never had one.
3. Americans ultimately will not accept anything other than their Constitution.
4. The NWO and its henchmen had better not forget the lessons of the French Revolution. Starving, pissed off, armed people have NOTHING to lose. Can you say, “chop?”
That stated, I suspect a significant number of states will leave the union when the financial rug is finally pulled. This most likely is the route the NWO has chosen to destroy the USA. It will come under the guise of retaining “freedoms.” Problem is, many states are unable to sustain a high standard of living without a union, much less foreign trade. And then, what currency will they use? And who will recognize it?
Hmmm… a NAU and the Amero??? Pretty clever.
The only hope for Americans is to keep their country in one piece. But can they do it? I don’t know. I really don’t, given how far down the tubes they’ve allowed things to go.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Oust Pelosi and Conyers and every other Rep. that snubs their nose at the Constitution. Remove all of them. Impeach them. Shame them. See to it that the annals of history remember these fools as the traitorous scum they are. Take it to these assholes. NOW.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Damm No Worries thats some good theorys you have there! I can see where your coming from with that! Good stuff!
July 25th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
#11 Don’t worry about us in Florida we’ve already got our money ready to go. Here tis… http://i24.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/00/44/9f2e_1.JPG
July 25th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
#11 – NoWorriesYou make a very valid and completely logical point. If anyone has been keeping a close eye on the mainstream media lately they are pumping the housing crisis, hyper-inflation and banks going under. What is the purpose? So it will come as no big surprise when the dollar finally collapses (which it will). The war in Iraq alone has cost the taxpayers over 2 trillion dollars. This is how they will introduce the Amero and give further credibility and power to the North American Union. After all, we have to keep up with the mighty EU and the Euro.Best case scenario, the U.S. will divide into three, possibly five different unions or “zones”. This is exactly what happenned to communist Russia and this will play nicely into the hands of the globalists. Lets face it, the time to face this kind of tyranny past us by ten years ago. Our only hope now is a revolution led by patriots in high places with support from the trenches. Arm yourself with knowledge and urge others to do the same. We are at a major turning point in history and the final chapter has yet to be written.
GOD BLESS!
July 25th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
most of them should be in jail for voting yes on the patriot act
July 25th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
well we could sit around have bad ratings or let attacks happen and use them to our advantage and change laws and spie on people what ya think folks sound slike a good plan BUSH IS THE WORSE EVER
July 25th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
I attended the Judiciary Committee hearing today on “Executive Power…” It was a sideshow, with the Judiciary Committee made up of smirking Republicans and gutless Democrats. The low point of the hearing was when a Republican Committee member pointed out a military veteran who was wearing a political button on his uniform. He ordered a policeman to remove this Army Lieutenant from the hearing “for wearing a sign.” The Lieutenant repeated his oath to protect and defend the Constitution as he was dragged from the room! The audience was shocked and outraged at this Gestapo action! After seeing the gutless judiciary refuse to vote for impeachment, when overwhelming evidence was presented for doing so, I concur with the above article that OUR CONSTITUTION IS DEAD! George Bush has become the dictator of America! May God have mercy on our souls!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
It is clear who WE THE PEOPLE need to kick out of office ASAP. Mr. CONyers and Pelosi both should go. I wonder how much money it took to buy these politicians. They have made a mockery of the constitution.
July 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
#18: David: Wow, that is terrible what they did to the Lieutenant.
What a disgrace; the media blackout as well.
July 25th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Democrats and Republicans alike should be booted out of office,,, whether in Senate, house or representatives or the White House .
It’s obvious that these 2 parties are out to do as they please and not as the constitution demands.
Next time you go to vote , do yourself a favor and vote for your 3rd choice, whether it be Libertarians , or any other party.
You cannot allow any of these “crimals” to regain power they now share.
It is getting more and more obvious that the Dems and the Rep. are 2 of a kind ( well most members are alike , at least )
Will it take a coup-d’etat to regain power to the people of America ??
July 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
You guys are jackasses, you conduct yourselves totally unprofessionally.
July 26th, 2008 at 12:09 am
We need to hold public trials and hang everyone of these sons of bitches participating in the death of our country. I am willing to bet if we band 150 or 200 thousand pissed off Americans together and storm capitol hill and drag them out by the scruff and start trying and executing them, this country will shape up VERY quickly.
July 26th, 2008 at 12:29 am
I think when America made the unlawful invasions of other lands based on multiple deceptions , using lies on it’s own citizens about who was involved on 911, and the illegal practice of torture made legal in United States courts, [ one cannot go without saying the Roman Empire Type military establishment you have around the globe]. Well, what it means is you are the devils advocate. The smiling angel with open arms. Only when you turn around one can see the red wings and tail.
Remeber that even Christians around the world are praying to God that you may end up chewing on your own rabid body and fall on your on sword of liberation. Your simply too crazy to see the reality of what America now has become. The snake, reborn. Tread on you.
July 26th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Michael Davis if we’re going organize 200,000+ pissed off citizens to storm the capital and drag these bastards out we better do it quick. We can talk about it all day. How do we do it? If we figure that out then let’s go.
July 26th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Is that David Crosby in the back ground?
July 26th, 2008 at 1:03 am
David # 18 that what you saw is the reason the military will go into revolt against the President and the Vice President. These ninnies think that under this much evidence of High treason and misprision of felony
That the Military will continue to back their asses, but I dont think its gonna fly for long. All congress is just getting the message that the country is bankrupt, there is no more money, there are no more lenders,
The american public is bankrupt! You guys cant suck any more blood. Its over! I hope that the Generals stand up soon and defend the men and women serving on their command. If what I think is coming many parents of American soldiers may have to fly to Iraq and Afghanistan to get their sons and daughters out.
Conyers, Pelousi and all Congress know damn well how serious this dilemma that they have created is.
The only way out of this constitutional emergency is for the Military to go into revolt and seize Bush, Cheney, Congress, all Cabinet members and the Supreme Court and bring every member into a military tribunal out side of the USA. (Maybe Gitmo) Maybe thats why they are laughing, Barr hasn’t figured it out yet! Lets see how this movie unfolds. Aloha MCB
July 26th, 2008 at 2:31 am
What a moron!
July 26th, 2008 at 2:41 am
As I raise my head, from this bed,
Some days I wish nothing was said.
Fed from the anger my emotions seem dead,
All I can see is the color Red.
The color of blood,
Yet to be spilled.
Prophacy fullfilling-Word as writtin,
Democracy killing liberty…
Evil hiding in plain sight…
When the time comes-will you be willing to fight?
Darkness is upon us,
I prey for light,
Protecting my family is now my duty,
Like pirates for booty,
They want our souls,
Their door is opening,
I want it closed!
Freedom will be tested-Lives will be lost,
But for humanity-It will seem a small cost,
Darkness is upon us,
I prey for Light,
Lets all stand up,
ITS TIME TO FIGHT!
July 26th, 2008 at 3:07 am
Thanks for the info #18, very interesting, and very wrong they took him out for that. Man, I hope I’m wrong, but I think its to late to save anything in America. I think its to late because to many Americans refuse to educate themselves on the important matters before us. Until Americans become very uncomfortable in their every day life, it will only get worse, and we will be seen as “tine foil hat” the sky is falling wackos. Most people cant handle the truth, its to painful for them. YOu gotta hit the problem head on, take the pain, then move forward. But Americans think it will all go away on its own.
I come to this website because I like to be able to talk about issues with people that know whats going on and are not afraid to say it. I also vent my anger here because I get so mad and feel helpless about our great America falling. I wish I could do something but there are still not enough Americans that will march in with us. A few people will only be crushed, so I think some time has to pass and things have to get worse to where Americans will be willing to stand together and march against this illegal machine.
July 26th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Let them smile!!!! They will get there wish… and we will be dead on the field of battle for the REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!
July 26th, 2008 at 4:07 am
#31 “Miss Direction” = apt name for a troll/provocateur
Pessimism doesn’t make one a traitor, and whether one agrees with it or not, it isn’t as counterproductive as vicious infighting.
July 26th, 2008 at 4:08 am
Damn Miss Direction, you need some government mandated anger management. But maybe I expect too much (like peaceful discourse) from someone who seems to favor violence to intelligence. Oh and nobody is forcing you to read Mr. Nimmo’s articles, so F*CK OFF!
July 26th, 2008 at 4:28 am
This Sucks WHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The people on this web sight stop bicthing at one another and decide to quit to become leaders ( THATS ALL OF US LEADING AS ONE TOGETHER AS A POSITIVE INFLUENCE) to stand firm and hold the line not giveing an inch then maybe will get something done start working together and dont play into others bull shit BE A FORCE TO BE FEARDED AND RESPECTED OF not a bunch of school yard kids bitching at one another and dont send me some lame ass responce telling me im an idiot when you no there is truth in this statement lets all grow up a little and get back on track 82nd AIRBORNE
July 26th, 2008 at 4:39 am
So, when we stop the NWO, we can get rid of the ‘Mexica’ movement right? WE are America… We need to retain America for the future. Not them… right?
July 26th, 2008 at 4:43 am
Miss Direction..Jasmine loves you
July 26th, 2008 at 5:01 am
Watched this entire thing on TV live and I was actually very impressed with how it all went. GO USA!
July 26th, 2008 at 5:59 am
I like the reference to Bush as Caligula. Of course he hasn’t yet made his horse a member of Congress. But perhaps because he’s scared of them.
July 26th, 2008 at 7:11 am
Methinks Miss Direction doth protest too much …
July 26th, 2008 at 7:31 am
#11 NoWorries
You state that: Europeans don’t really know what a republic is because Europe has never had one.
Response: False.
Rome started off as a Republic in southern Europe, and existed that way for a little over 450 years (510 BC through 49 BC) until Julius Ceasar crossed the Rhine in direct definance of an order from the Roman Senate, this act is what made him Rome’s first dictator.
But you do make a good point, one that I whole heartedly agree with.
You say: The NWO and its henchmen had better not forget the lessons of the French Revolution. Starving, pissed off, armed people have NOTHING to lose. Can you say, “chop?”
Response: Awesome!
I’ve been saying for years that the elected officials in this country need to remember that when the citizens of a nation are called in to clean up the government (because it has become to corrupt and won’t clean itself up), they don’t do the job half way. The French commoners decided to forego eating their cake, and set about devising the most efficient execution instrument the world has ever known, the guillotine. Partly because of the desire of the mob to watch the executions, and more importantly, because they had so many government officials to execute (Time is money, after all, and the royalty had watsed enough of both already.). They got them all. Every last one. And the nobles who tried to run only found that they couldn’t hide from the will and might of the People.
All that aside, I’d still rather live here than in Communist China, Russia, or even Canada for that matter.
July 26th, 2008 at 8:08 am
America needs a COUP The world needs a doctor.Write in Ron Paul for President.The Corporates picked theirs so lets pick ours.Dennis Kurcinich & Ron Paul.Our Political Heros & Constitutional Watch Dogs.They are Power to Power
July 26th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Oops, Big_Mike! Caesar crossed the Rubicon into Rome, not the Rhine. The Rhine is in what is now Germany.
I agree with your sentiment that it is better to be here in the US, and I’ll add a couple of other reasons:
1) Americans, amongst all the other people of the world, are most likely to put their foot down and end this tyranny. Although they’ve had the wool pulled over their eyes for a century, it is coming off. There is no nation that will fight faster or resist the NWO more than America, and
2) Since America is at the root of world politics, it will be the best place for the beginning of the end. If we destroy the origins of the NWO here, there will be no place on earth for it to try and take hold for a long time to come.
July 26th, 2008 at 8:55 am
The results of a leader being a leader is that there are ones to lead. If the “leader” says to do something and the “follower” does not, then who really is the leader? Therefore the simplist and yet maybe most openly damaging thing to the individual, is to JUST SAY “NO”.
I still cannot understand as to how any one person within Congress has more power to override all other members. A person in a leadership position should only be in that position to get the matter at hand to move about smoothly. All members of Congress are suppose to have the same power of represtation and the same power of vote. So to have something like turncoat Pelosi’s statement that, “Impeachment is off the table” or this turncoat Conyers’ ability to stop a well presented impeachment hearing is beyond belief to me. To me this has just been another sign that goes to show you that you get what you want. We, the people, should have uprised as soon as Pelosi made her statement and then the rest of the House bowed down to her. We got what we want apparently and now we are starting to complain?
This is scary,
Rhonda
July 26th, 2008 at 9:03 am
It seemed he did’nt show that same sentiment yesterday during the hearings as compared to this performance.
July 26th, 2008 at 9:35 am
WHO IS READY TO MARCH ON WASHINGTON D.C.
BORDER FENCE MY ASS WE NEED TO PUT A FENCE AROUND WASHINGTON D.C. AND STARVE THESE BASTARDS. REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS.
THAT’ll BE THE DAY!!!!!!!
July 26th, 2008 at 10:04 am
i watched the hearing and was pretty disappointed. the fact is , our stupid congress allowed and passed into law the right for bush to break the law…. they are just as guilty as him.
July 26th, 2008 at 11:09 am
#43 Tristan
Thank you for pointing out my error. I was mistaken, and it was not the Rhine. Your correction is appreciated.
And to further collaborate upon the idea of America being the best place to live, let’s not forget that we are the driving economic force in the world, as well. Where would China be if it didn’t have American Wal-Marts to dump their shoddy, cracker-jack prize, merchandise? Where would the Saudis be if it weren’t for America’s thirst for oil (Because China is using money made by selling good to the US to buy their oil)? Where would the Eurpoean Union be if it wasn’t for America showing the world how to unify a collection of states into a collective state of great power? And let’s not forget that the world’s best and brightest are still comming to America of their own volition for education and a chance at a better life. Go to any college in America and look at the ratios of citizens vs. foreigners in our graduate degree programs. I went to two colleges while getting my degrees, and both of them had large populations of American citizens in their undergrad programs, but as soon as I started in on my grad work, the make up of the classrooms changed drastically.
Even though America is facing real and perceived danger from home and from over seas targets, we’re still the best game in town. You couldn’t put up a website like this in China. They’d have you locked in a hole so deep that’d you’d forget what the sun looked like if you tried to start a website complaining about the Chinese human rights violations.
And the fact that the Supreme Court (who will do more than anything or anyone to institute a NWO) just struck down a gun ban is the most heartening thing I’ve seen in a long time. The first step to a dictator is the removal of our guns. You won’t get the revolution people are calling for until they try to take the firearms away. That’ll be the warning bell that will start the fight. But as long as they are deciding to let us keep them, I am not too worried about the near future.
GO USA!
July 26th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Two more banks went into Federal receivership yesterday! Always late of a Friday they go after the stock market closes. Also congress will be holding session today Saturday. You know that they are up to something. I like all the comments,except the one about cutting off Nemos dick! that was uncalled for in my opinion. well aloha MCB
July 26th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
The theme of this post-spot should be “What do we do next?” and it is not.
All of this analysis of what happened on July 25th is worthless if nothing else happens.
We, the people, need to know what is next required to see that this impeachment effort continues and then put the info-pressure that this body is capable of exerting, on the appropriate legislative areas.
Please correct the following any of the following components are incorrect;
1. Agitation of Impeachable Crimes – The asserting, to Congress of impeachable charges? Is this what took place July 25th?
2. Investigation of Impeachable Charges – The “Grand Jury” portion of the process, The House Judiciary Committee or other special investigative committee hears the charges and determines if evidence exists to support the creation of one or more Article of Impeachment. Is this what took place July 25th?
3. House of Representatives Votes – The House votes on whether or not to impeach. If the House votes yes, the Article(s) of Impeachment are then presented to the Senate (step 4).
4. Impeachment Hearings – This is the “court of law” part.
5. Senate Votes – This is the Jury deliberation part. The impeachment vote requires a 2/3 majority to pass.
6. Removal from Office – Upon 2/3 majority of the Senate in favor of impeachment, or a “conviction” in the case, the offending official will be removed from office.
7. Charges for Crimes – This is where the offending official is subject to civil or criminal prosecution for the offences that lead to impeachment. Impeachment is not necessarily a punishment; it is only the removal from office.
July 26th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
#50 Roger H
No, neither of the first two steps on your list have taken place yet. The Justice Department refuses to bring any charges against the administration before a grand jury, thus limiting the ability of the Congress to say “This was an impeachable offense”. Because the courts will not act to declare the existence of a crime, no legal reason exists for the Congress to begin impeachment proceedings.
The hearing was to try and determine why the House Judiciary Committee can’t force the Justice Department’s hand, not discuss whether or not Bush should be impeached. You can’t impeach because of a moral difference, which is why the Republicans kept saying that Clinton lied to the People, as he did say under oath that he did not have sexual relations with that woman {Lewinsky].
lol There is absolutely zero chance of an impeachment vote occurring before Bush is out of office. The bureaucracy is designed to be slow, unresponse, and unimaginative. It helps maintain the status quo, whether that is a good thing or a bad thing I leave up to you to decide.
July 26th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Impeach Congress Now!
http://digg.com/world_news/We_.....w_Movement
July 26th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
WAKE UP AMERICA.yes the clock if ticking. This Government is the Headquarters for Lucifer and His Workers. Just remember Lucifer has many names. one is the Devil. and when you examine His Work closely I find He is very crafty in Dividing,Deceiving, and destroying or destruction. yes Wake up America. this is the most divided Nation of the face of the Earth. They believe the lies of the men in these Churches, that writes their books and never tell about the Great Harvest to keep the Soul’s out of a tormented Hell. the Government and their Workers lie to the people. Satan is the Father of Lies. their promises never are kept. It is meant to be this way. Every thing that Satan is working to put in place, He has to obey God and bring about the Great Harvest. the People who will have the Knowledge and understanding from Gods Word will reject the Works of Satan and His 2 Workers 666, and will give themselves a sacrifice by having their Head removed by a Beautiful Angel, and be with God. THE W.T.O. IS THE VEHICLE That was set in place in Dec.1993, so the 10 Horns or Nations could be set in place. 9 of them are in place, the 10th one will be seated very soon. then the man can be chosen to be seated in TYRE. This is Babylon or The Harlot City. He will close the Banks. A Servant of the God of Israel joedr@theriver.com
July 27th, 2008 at 8:37 am
everyones busting conyers chops about impeachment,the reason he is not trying to push this is he does not have the votes! even though the media tells us the democrates have the majority when taken into account the “blue dogs” the southern democrates who vote with the neo-cons, the dems. do not have enough votes. considering presidential politics parading impeachment now could be a disaster. i know this is a consevative leaning web site and i know that a lot of dems are just as globalists i would still rather see the dems with control over the neo-cons any day of the week. do you not remember only 10 years ago our strong dollar, our paying down the debt,our home prices,jobs,our solders home with their families. both parties may be corporate facist but the dems approach it tapping the brakes while the cons are pushing the accelerator.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
…Ah-bdi… Kala ( Time ) will calm everyone down , even the “Big” dynasties !!! ” Men make history , and they vanish in History ” !!!
July 27th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Only my office has the authority to arrest President Bush and his partners in crime and install an interim government while the CID conducts a thorough investigation of the numerous crimes committed openly and in defiance of the Constitution and its Amendments.
Unfortunately for America, I am either on Bush’s payroll, being blackmailed by the CIA, or maybe I’m in Gitmo while a fake Brigadier General Rodney Johnson is getting his fudge packed at Bohemian Grove. Either way, you’re sol.
Feel free to petition the Arlington VA CID office by any means necessary so that the spineless cockroach sitting in the Provost Marshal’s desk will be compelled to arrest President Bush. The future will be difficult, but not impossible. With your help, we can put an end to tyranny and restore the Federal Republic that our founding fathers created.
We at the CID appreciate the champions of liberty at Infowars.
http://www.defenselink.mil/pri…..ACIDC.html
Brigadier General Rodney L. Johnson
Headquarters, U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command, 6010 6th Street
Building 1465, Fort Belvoir, VA 22060-5506
July 27th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
GIGGLE GIGGLE WHAT THE HELL IS SO FUNNY? HOW DUMB THESE PEOPLE IN CONGRESS ARE?
July 27th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Conyers is snickering because he knows it’s over!!! Our Sovreighnty started to erode, I believe in 1913, and from there, right in the shitter for most of us!!! I recommend reading DR. JEROME CORSI’S “The Late Great USA”!!!! PORKY you on target!! Everyone else out there…try to live your lives the best you can, why? Because I’m starting to feel we’re all just a buzzing sound in their ears. And no, I don’t like what’s going on either but, there is not 1 billionaire amongst us!!! So…find a billionaire and that might give us some leverage but, the days of Gen. Smedley Butler are gone!!! LOL YO!
July 27th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
#35: You are a go at this station!!! Too much divisiveness and at times I too am guilty of just that!!! I try to refrain but at times there is a degree of difficulty!!! Cohesion would be great but we need the Active Duty components of our military to achieve that goal!!! 101st patch on MY shoulder!!! Will we ever “Rendevous with Destiny” for the Republic ever??? 16 Sierra out!!!