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Judge Says Hyperlinks Should Be Banned to Save Newspapers
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Famous and respected New York Judge Richard Posner says maybe we should ban links to save newspapers.
From his blog: Imagine if the New York Times migrated entirely to the World Wide Web. Could it support, out of advertising and subscriber revenues, as large a news-gathering apparatus as it does today? This seems unlikely, because it is much easier to create a web site and free ride on other sites than to create a print newspaper and free ride on other print newspapers, in part because of the lag in print publication; what is staler than last week’s news.
Expanding copyright law to bar online access to copyrighted materials without the copyright holder’s consent, or to bar linking to or paraphrasing copyrighted materials without the copyright holder’s consent, might be necessary to keep free riding on content financed by online newspapers from so impairing the incentive to create costly news-gathering operations that news services like Reuters and the Associated Press would become the only professional, nongovernmental sources of news and opinion.
Gawker’s Hamilton Nolan, who brought the Judge’s argument to our attention
, had this to say about it:
The problem: this is America dude, we say what we fucking want, amirite?
You can copyright a news story, but you can’t copyright the news. “The news” just means “things that happen in the world.” What would it mean, in practice, to make it illegal to paraphrase a copyrighted news story? Summing up, for example, political events, or a sports controversy, or even a fashion trend, could be interpreted as paraphrasing copyrighted material. So let’s ban talking about anything. And banning links will help us make our references even more obscure, by making it impossible for anyone to refer to source materials! Good idea, Posner. This gross oversimplification makes you look none too freedom-loving!
What we want to know is what would the Judge do with TV news, which gets all its reporting, facts and story ideas from newspapers? According to Pew, 60% of Americans get their news from TV. By the Judge’s logic, shouldn’t they be forced to read a newspaper to get their news instead?
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July 2nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
A respected judge? In America? In 2009? That must have been humor.
Pedro Gonzales Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
SI SENIOR
Napolean Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Si Pedro Gonzalez responde a su poste, usted está siendo etiquetado como una persona de interés.
trex Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Napolitano , and gonzales , guys you can speak French , English ,German or Dutch i dont mind i understand em , but please No habla espagnol perfavor
YESHUA'S BELOVED Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
FIRST OF ALL TREX YOU DO NOT WRITE SPANISH AS WELL AS YOU “UNDERSTAND” IT AND SECONDLY I DON’T THINK THAT “PEDRO GONZALEZ” IS HISPANIC, IF IN FACT THAT IS HIS REAL NAME. I THINK HE’S A TROLL TRYING TO MAKE HISPANIC PEOPLE LOOK IGNORANT AND STUPID, PAY HIM NO MIND.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I don’t know much spanish, but enough to know his grammar and spelling are wrong. I never pay him any mind!
bubbaEffect Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
clearly they need to just assign newspaper fees to our payroll checks
not a new tax, just a fee…
D Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Doing that would clearly be “carbon ineffecient”!
mercyflush Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 am
Pedro Gonzales is a character in the delightful sleeper movie “Napolean Dynamite”; and yes this Pedro does not speak spanish. How would I know? How does anyone know anything? It all depends on what your definition of ‘is’ really is. Ask Clinton.
tomtom Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
Ga spelen. Welke rechter gaat ineens over hyperlinks klagen zonder externe invloed van een rijke bedrijf of regeringselement in verband met het wurgelen van vrije informatie of winst.
me Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 12:18 am
f--- THAT PUSSY USING THE NAME PEDRO GONSALEZ HE’S A STUPID MORON WITH NOTHING MORE TO DO THAN PERPETUATE BULLs--- AND HE OBVIOUSLY FEARS SPANISH PEOPLE CUZ HE WOULD NEVER TALK THAT s--- IN PUBLIUC SO HE USES THIS SITE TO VENT HIS INFLAMED IGNORANCE……PUSSY
Newspeak Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
The question is, how do you know? And how do you know he even speaks Spanish?
mercyflush Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 am
Porque hablo espanol con fluencia.
Censored31 Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I just visited his blog and under his article you can leave a comment… so il reported the 52 US soldiers who died in Helmand and a lot of other operations.
U can read the huge US losses of the NWO puppets on:
http://censored31.skynetblogs.be
moriah Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I say we boycott the Alex Jones show until he clarifies or takes back what he said about gay couples adopting kids yesterday. That was something that I would expect from Mike Savage I thought Alex was more of a free thinker and believer in equality than that. I am so disapointed….anyone else? I think this was just a slimy attempt to pander to the religious bigots that tune into his show and/or provide funding, either way it was a disgusting and backward comment that shouldn’t be allowed to slide.
Censored 2 Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
kick those MSM whores to the curb and do the job for them– dont visit their sites or click on their links. watch their online ad $$$ go the way of their print versions, into the toilet.
homer Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
It’s spelled senor. pendejo!
Jimbo Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
That judge must be retarded.
Spanky Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 am
Not retarded, just lacking in the necessary experience and knowledge to make an informed decision on this particular subject. He’s also another one of these fellows who refuses to realize that old jobs disappear and new jobs arise as technology and civilization evolve. The workforce must evolve to keep up.
PissedAsA-Fart Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:19 am
SO he is a retard:
Spanky Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 am
No, not retarded. He’s either stupid, idiotic or simply ignorant. There is a difference.
USMC Grunt Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:22 am
Because he is old school….i thought that is why they taught me in elementary school u need to rotate out fresh young blood into the system to say up to date with modern technology……it is easier cheaper and more officiant to get your news off the internet…………GOOD JOB JUDGE “CRUSTY OLD FART”…….
Gary Head Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
What is with this “old” mind control. His comment has nothing to do with being old. He is a traitor upholding the propaganda arm of the new world order. You, and many others have been mind controlled into believing it has something to do with his age, when it does not.
ac Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
A bald-faced lie, perhaps?
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
bold-faced – LOL
ac Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
All of the above.
ac Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Q. Is the correct term ‘bold face lie’ or ‘bald faced lie’ or another variation?
A. Answer
“The correct term is bald-faced, and refers to a face wihout whiskers. Beards were commonly worn by businessmen in the 18th and 19th century as an attempt to mask facial expressions when making business deals. Thus a bald-faced liar was a very good liar indeed, and was able to lie without the guilt showing on his face.
“The more correct term is “bald faced or bare faced lie” (bare is more common in Great Britain). It refers to a “shameless” or “brazen” lie. One where the teller does not attempt to hide his face while telling it.
“It’s just the last 5 yrs or so that “bold” has come into usage. It refers to typeface. It is used metaphorically in speech. In the same way that a typesetter uses bold face type to highlight specific text and set it apart, a bold face lie stands out in such a way as to not be mistaken for the truth.
“More Information
“The phrase can either be used as bold-faced lie, as in someone with a bold enough face to lie (bold meaning daring) or someone bold enough to lie to your face; it can also be used as bald-faced lie, where the older meaning of bald (meaning uncovered or unconcealed) – the more correct usage with this term is bare-faced lie.”
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_t....._variation
william b travis Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
here s a novel idea
maybe newspapers should go back to being news sources
instead of propaganda organs and fan magazines
impartiality, telling the truth and balance will save them
if they won t do these things
then the hell with them
who needs em
Patriot_in_Arms Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
My thoughts exactly! Lies & propaganda have filled the articles in most every news paper around the Country, for many many years! Maybe if they wrote the truth, or headlined substantial stories, they would rebound & come back strong? I’m the 3rd generation in my family, to work for the paper, & I think their fall is nothing short of justice! Justice for all the lying & deception! If they want our business, then they need to start reporting what we want to hear, the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
someguy Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Right on William and Patriot. Who wants to buy lies? apparently no one
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
They won’t go back to being news sources because they’ve been taken over and they print what they’re told to print, same as MSM. I wouldn’t waste my money. But you can recoup the Sunday newspapers with the coupons?
Rachael M Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
It’s all used to desensitize us, too.
Rick Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Exactly, i stopped reading newspapers even before i woke up. In the UK the first 10 pages of most newspapers are taken up by whatever “reality tv” show is on at the time ie Big Brother, Britains Got Talent, I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here & X Factor. I got sick of it.
I have noticed as well that they now have each show starting and ending so that there is always a reality tv show on all year round. Plus the UK get forced to watch the US version and the US is forced to watch the UK version.
Its just one part of their huge effort to distract and mound society to be as they want it.
It’s been great this week to hear from that Spencer and Hiedi couple who have recently woken up and as they are apparently big stars to all the sheep it should expose alot of young people o the truth and hopefully wake some of them up.
Barry's Kenyan Birth Certificate Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Remember when everyone ripped on Dubya for admitting he didn’t read newspapers? Well, the joke was on them. He doesn’t read newspapers because he knows it’s all a load of crap.
Who the hell are Spencer and Heidi? I heard about one minute of that segment and turned it off to do something more worthwhile. Although, it was funny that AJ’s crew was laughing at him because I was too at that exact moment. But your point is a good one. I agree.
David Robarts Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Rick, you stopped reading newspapers before you woke up? No wonder you woke up, you stopped eating the propaganda. I’m glad the internet is so hard to control.
Not On My Watch Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I Second that motion.Nobody is going to pay for this crap.On Paper or on a computer screen.
OBAMA'S CRACK PIPE Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
BAN JUDGES!
The Fed Reserve Coup Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Maybe if newspapers report real news they would not be in this situation.
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 am
You know what – that is the free market system.
If someone can put out a product that is as good or better cheaper.
The real world – you go out of business.
Hey, maybe we should go back to the horse and buggy, candle, leeching, wood stoves, writing on stone tablets.
Get the point.
ICE FARMER Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
And lets ban Automobiles to save the horse and buggy!!!
Its alright everything is gonna be fine!
Just watch the game and mourn for Michael Jackson and just wait for those green shoots!!!!!!!
Walmart and govt. jobs are just around the corner, go to work for ACORN on the census…..
Tommy Liberty Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I guess this “Judge” never read the first amendment. Pretty, pretty sad indeed.
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 am
Tommy:
Oh, come on he is just looking out for the best for everyone.
Ok, he is protecting his cronies.
A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
jimshores Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
JUST SAY NO TO THE NWO
1776blues Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
So true, too funny and on point, Desslok !
Wow Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Wow. Infowars sure did a fantastic job of scrubbing the comments sections free of any Jones criticism. I’ve never seen a group so afraid to be challenged. Some posters had asked various different sources to observe the activity here. They didn’t believe that “Infowarriors”, such champions of free speech would delete comments for no reason other than a bruised ego. Sure enough the comments began vanishing. I will never give another red cent to this man Alex Jones.
Gary Head Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I agree. Alex is afraid of free speech. Get mad, get angry but it is true.
red Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 am
This comment section isn’t for infowars or Alex Jones, it’s for the STORIES. If you have concerns maybe you should click the CONTACT tab.
Gary Head Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Hey red,
Did you know that distraction is the most prevalent form of mind control? That is when you allow others to choose and control the topic of discussion. When asked to stick to the subject, you are being mind controlled. It is the same as saying, stay irrelevant, stay uninformed, stay distracted. It only works with the ignorant. As the most prevalent form of mind control what do you suppose Alex’s first rule of comments is?
“You will stay on topic.
You will not include links to websites and videos not associated with the topic.
You will not post the same comment multiple times.
You will not solicit anyone to buy or sell products or services, or to make donations of any kind. You will not include links to products in your comment.
You will not post anything libelous, defamatory, harmful, threatening, harassing, abusive, invasive of another’s privacy, hateful, racially or ethnically objectionable, or otherwise illegal.
You will not make threats to other users or people not associated with the site.
If you violate these rules, your post will be deleted.
Remember: you are a guest here. It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe. ”
Anyone with the ability to think can see that these unamerican policies can be used to mind control you. Hey did you ever hear this before? It may be a bit of topic but see if your mind is able to wrap itself around it.
I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Thomas Jefferson
Johnny Nonsense Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Have them take it out of the 14 trillion that they just stole from us.
bob b Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
didn’t have to read the article….whoever proposed this…
is so old…
he must fart DUST.
Gary Head Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:40 am
It is mind control that makes you believe that old age has something to do with the comment this judge made. He made the comment because he is a traitor, not because he is old. The judge wants to support the new world order’s propaganda machine. So they can continue the mind control on you, and perhaps recruit you to drag the old people to the camps for renewal. Their is some irony here. I bet you are young.
Barry's Barking Spider Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
“Famous and respected New York Judge Richard Posner . . .”
What a s---head. The author can’t even get the first sentence of his story factually correct.
Posner is a corporate shill who sits on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, which is in Chicago not New York.
Among many bad judicial opinions from this circuit, he was party to the recent 7th Cir. opinion stating that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t apply to the states. What an ass-wipe.
Add him to the list.
craven LeVay Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 am
Like a respected Cop!
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
how bout a vote to stop all the lies/fake fronts from being told from the main stream media???
4w578i Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Lies and mainstream media fronts. You mean the blogs, which recycle news?
Look guys, without preferential credit, there’s no way you’ll to get top search engine ranking, above the white noise of billions of noise makers.
We’ve all heard it, before. If you hangars on don’t like such-and-such site, go get your own listing. That means get in bed with big business.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Or just sink into the swamp of the white noise?
4w578i Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
It’s not all donations-driven, because *lots of people have to hear you, before giving donations.
Deleted Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Banning, deleting and suppressing dissent Youtube style reigns supreme at Infowars. If you dare to question the chosen one Alex Jones your posts vanish in to the digital abyss.
Fidz Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
FOX news prooved it, the media is not required BY LAW to tell the truth.
Gary Head Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Yes it is true that they can lie, but they cannot lie to bring about the downfall of the United States, or the installation of a global government. That would be treason. They are going to prison. Just wait and see. Americans when they discover the whole truth will be very upset. Nothing can save the guilty.
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 am
Gary Head:
You are right, they can’t lie and deceive and omit and distort the truth.
Legally if they do they are very culpable.
Those moral laws never change.
Collusion – Does the name Joseph Goebbels ring a bell to anyone! Nuremberg – yes if the house of cards comes tumbling down – if they are in collusion they are legally and morally responsible.
If not they will die – they will fall into the hands of the living God.
It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Goebbels – I think he paid a price?
PissedAsA-Fart Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:26 am
O f---ing crap:
There is one big f---ing lie running the USA.
That idiot is not being charged with treason.
“Wups” I wonder if that was hate speach, or just stating a fact.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
So it’s not related to this story but people have gotta see this! So it begins folks! Federal agents are going door to door in Texas looking for guns!
http://smargus.com/2009/07/fed.....un-checks/
Pedro Gonzales Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
2ND AMENMENT MUEY EY BUENO
mercyflush Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 am
ya sure you betcha.
PissedAsA-Fart Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 am
They wont find mine:
I dont live in Texas
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Ban links? How we gonna navigate all them tubes in the internets then.
nobleUK Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
thats the point
jay rockefeller said internet worst thing ever given to us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Of course they would say that!!!! The web makes it harder for them to keep us in the dark while they spin their depopulation games.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Shiiiiiiii…..
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
H. J. Res. 5
Obama Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it.
Chadw Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....ll=hj111-5
PissedAsA-Fart Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 am
Yep”
Once is enough to be f---ed.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Hyperlinks exist for the sole purpose of REFERENCING A SOURCE. As long as a writing references source materials it is not plagiarism or copyright infringement. Hyperlinks exist to give proper credit where it is due and actually DIRRECT TRAFFIC TO THE ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL RATHER THAN “STEALING” IT.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Someone should sue that judge for misconduct of justice
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
shame on all you CIA, NSA, FBI agents that are compiling info on all of us. You are a greater threat to liberty and freedom than a million of your CIA trained “Bin Ladens”. If you truly love your country, if you truly want to protect your country, then look into the mirror and ask yourself, “who is my master”? Who is calling the shots? Who is ordering you to trample the fundamental rights of the very citizens you swore to protect? How far are you willing to go in the name of “safety”? Is it okay to detain citizens with no representation? Is it okay to disarm a populace so they are unable to defend themselves? Why did you get involved in law enforcement in the first place? Was it to defend the LIBERTY of your fellow citizen? Was it because you like to wear a badge? Carry a gun? Is it because you want to be on the “winning side”?. What kind of country are you building for YOUR children, for MY children. Will it be a nation built on fear? A nation where if you say the wrong thing, or peacefully protest against government action you are labled a “terrorist”? Is this the world you want your children to live in? Do you want them to live in a world where we are controlled by fear and by corporate interests? Where we are simply sheep, our only purpose to fill the coffers of international bankers, weapons contractors, and out-dated energy cartels? Shame on all of you who took an oath to defend this country from foreign and DOMESTIC threats that are facilitating the very demise of our once-great Nation. Does the fact that our current Federal government is operating completely outside the law not bother you? Have you ever really read the constitution? How brainwashed are you? Are you so caught up in your law-enforcement sub-culture to realize that you are now treating the very people that you swore to protect as your enemy? Reach inside yourself and shake your soul. You have the power to stand up and make a change. You have the power to say ” I cannot follow this order, I will not follow this directive as it is simply unconstitutional. Or, will you sell your soul for your pension? Will you continue to violate our God-Given RIGHTS of privacy, Liberty, Freedom, and Happiness? Do you not understand that when you operate outside the constitution you are operating as a lawless thug? Do you not understand that when you compromise the constitution in the name of ” safety” that you are buying into a lie? I pray that you will listen to these words. They are the words of a fellow citizen. They are the words of a man that has worked since he was 16 to build a life for himself and his family. They are the words of a man who believes in the power of the constitution and power that it grants its populace. If you really want to protect your country, the real terrorists are not in a sandbox 5,000 miles away. The real terrorists are sitting in Congress. They are sitting in the white house, they own the Federal Reserve, and they are even sitting in your office. They are the people who are taking the constitution and setting it on fire. They are the ones who follow their own agenda’s under the guise of freedom. It is all very simple. Follow the constitution. It is no more complicated than that. If you are asked to perform a task, and that task is not constitutional than you must refuse that order. If you do not, then you have sold your soul and you are in fact commiting treason.
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July 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
What a doddering, out-of-touch, absolute and total idiot. If he is this removed from reality then he shouldn’t be judging anything. Has he been in suspended animation for the last 20 years? Go back to sleep you old fool and let someone younger know if you need help turning on the ‘new-fangled’ television set or the ‘wireless’!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Judge Says Hyperlinks Should Be Banned to Save Official Propaganda.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
This judge is a tyrannical idiot. How much revenue would these “news” sites lose if guys like Drudge and countless little guys like myself couldn’t link to them? He just doesn’t like what he hears on the web and wants to silence it. If lawyers take an oath to defend the Constitution, and they probably don’t, he should be disbarred.
Gary Head Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
They should copywrite reality! Thats another judge on the traitor list.
Cauitlyn Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
No such luck they can’t be disbarred for that sort of thing, and they do not take an oath to defend the constitution.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Okay, the judge has hurt my feelings. I want him thrown into prison for life!
nobleUK Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
lol nice
red Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:18 am
Total coercion.
The old fart probably clicked on a link that had a virus or key logger attached to it and now he’s just mad.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Idiot. Talk about getting lost in a sea of information. Links are a part of the internet. Newsprint is stoneage technology. He no doubt has money tied up in newpaper or he’s part of the internet 2.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I think you have a point. Not enough money is being made off the internet, so of course they want people to plunk down “real” money for paper, so they can continue to live in the way they have become accustomed to living.
News is obsolete in this hi-tech info age as soon as it hits the web. Paper simply can’t compete.
Omega Man Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 am
I thought using paper killed trees. Hmmm… Why promote that it we are to be green?
Ink is poisonous. Yes… The worthless, pointless, puppet that can’t think for himself judge probably has money invested in the newspaper business.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
ps Judge,
How about banning electricity and light bulbs because of the adverse impact they have had on candle sales? Moron!
Throw Them in jail Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
They wouldn’t mind you living that way. They’ll be happy to MAKE you live that way while they live in luxury.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
SO TRUE!
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Re: antidote
What if we didnt need their electricity or their food or their water! BE PREPARED!
http://www.redpillvsbluepill.weebly.com
red Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 am
I’m under the impression that we don’t already but are forced to anyways. TESLA man, perfect example.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Cluetrain Thesis #7: Hyperlinks subvert hierarchy.
I’m guessing this pretty much ends debate on that one…
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
You can tell we are making a difference with all this talk about internet news and alternative media.
Omega Man Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 am
I was thinking the same thing.
It’s great to see we are making a positive difference in the world.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
another dinosaur about to meet extinction.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
i myself monitor my town newspaper
but i refuse to pay any money for it because
it is a propaganda sheet produced by
the muck rakers gannett
they will never get a dime from me
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
**** ALEX , You are protected and strengthened by the blood of Christ. The Creator of the Universe will confuse your enemies and turn their wicked plans back… upon them!!! STAY STRONG and Focus on the (promises) in the Word Brother!!! John3:36!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Highlanderess Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Amen!
mercyflush Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:52 am
pure gibberish
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Someone should tell the judge he is a dinosaur like the news papers, and that no one want’s to read them because we all know its all horse S**t.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
What’s wrong?Can’t print your propaganda fast enough,pops.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I found most the news sites I visit because of links on InfoWars.com – f--- this guy
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Traveled back to the year 2009. This was a beginning of a period of mankind’s darkest era in history. Where inbred so-called noble royal families took control of governments, monetary systems and industry. They created a hierarchy and class system to enslave their fellow man. The created World Government dictatorship and luciferic world religion which will demand human sacrifice. Instead of expanding human development. They poisoned the water and food sources. They drugged the populace to enslave their minds and keep them in control. They set up a fear of fake terror to enslave the vast populace in a police-state system. The elite inbred and their cronies hid themselves in caves and underground bunkers. To protect themselves from the planetary terraforming the earth and atmosphere and nuclear war they had created. They started mass depopulation agendas. Killing off their fellow human beings. They did not have enough blood. So they turned on themselves a killing almost everyone who hid underground. The entire human race was nearly wiped out except for a few who escaped this savagery.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
They had to stay underground for years, surviving on hydroponically grown food and water and finally emerged as sickeningly pale illusions of humanity vaguely resembling Michael Jackson.
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:40 am
Time Traveler:
Doesn’t generations of inbreeding have a little something to do with insanity?
Danny Cunnington Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 am
Nice story although combatting the effects of nuclear contamination in a given area is far simpler then your owners have ever let you know. It takes too much energy to live underground for a long period. It’s much easier to reduce the effects of radioactive fall out and increase the resistance of the physical biology. (Your body and other animal/plant life.
Nuclear weapons are terror weapons designed to instill global mass hysteria. The greatest killer will always be the mass hysteria. To ensure this all information about how to counter the effects have been treated as a military secret. The Russians let the cat out of the bag in the early 1990s. At that time they thought that the threat of nuclear war was over with the end of the cold war so it no longer mattered to show people how it could be easily countered.
The west ran a media black-out immediately but some of us were paying attention and getting translations of hundreds of documents. These prove that if an actual nuclear exchange had taken place, The US population would be wiped and Russia would only be damaged but at least 60% operational.
Want to play WW3? are you ready? some are!
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I thought Posner was in Illinois.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Instead, I think we should ban Judge Richard Posner to save hyperlinks This makes much more sense.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
queeeeeef
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm
all tennesseeans lets declare independence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in one month!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Some very interesting points have been made here, it is refreshing to see that your site gets quality visitors.
PissedAsA-Fart Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 am
I will drink to that.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
so this man is clearly not fit to be a judge. when will he be stepping down?
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 am
I think they get appointed for like – life.
Depending on which office, Federal I am pretty sure it is pretty much a life gig.
Tragic – but true.
Basically – don’t hold your breath waiting for his resignation – you will probably suffocate.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Man, that old man need to kick the bucket. Who pays attention to a old dude that thinks news paper are modern. The way of thinking will die out the dinosaur that he is.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
They are aware that newspaper can’t keep up with either the internet or the 1000 channels. So they’re backpedaling and trying to salvage something out of all the chaos.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
He says he will be stepping down as soon as he finishes his newspaper!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
This “judge” is a moron.
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
well, as far as i am concerned, the feds have some juicy bulls--- on this judge to have him go along with their agenda, he’s probably a pedophile or something. lets just wait and see what pops up.
roaddog Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
“ren—excellent obsevation
July 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
I really think that all of these ignorant politicians and judges and news media people who keep on calling for the end of the internet to save MSM need to be taken out back behind the shed and beat half to death until they see the error in their ways. You know like how the catholics used to do to pagans and people who didn’t kiss the hand of their priests. I am so sick of hearing about this garbage. Mark my words some day sooner than later people are just going to snap and morons like this judge are going to wish they would have been still born.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Wicked is the court systems in the U.S. they are bringers of wormwood on the heads of us all. They are the protectors of wicked organized banking and evil organized religion. Their works come quickly on us all.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Newspapers are a waste of resources when the internet exists. We shouldn’t even be using wood for paper as is. No newspapers would save a lot of paper from being processed.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press….They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers
An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.
Alan Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Just because the papers are losing money doesn’t mean we should bail them
out with the public internet,,
Barter goods and services
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Right on!! Let’s just ban the internet and shut down 95% of the world’s communication. That’ll shut down every cell tower, most land lines and ALL the VOIP comm. SWEET!! That’ll keep the NWO from communicating to each other as well. WHAT A DOUCHEWAFFLE!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
We don’t have to buy no stinking newspapers!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
He’s got to be kidding. That would be banning research for heaven’s sake.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
It’s way past time to ban all these ancient assholes.Starting with all the incumbants in congress.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Newspapers are going under because the editors and publishers can’t be trusted. It has nothing to do with hyperlinks and quotes. Gimme a break.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
if we think this judge is bad, wait til this racist bitch sotomayor is a supreme court judge. we can almost guarantee amnesty for all illegals and she will attempt take our guns, just like they’re already trying in houston.
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
EAT A DICK.
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
terrorists? not my relatives, they were slave traders
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
“Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets.”
– Napoleon Bonaparte
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
QUE SE ETIQUETAN MI CULO HIJOS DE LA VERGA LOS INDIOS ESTAMOS ESPERANDO NUEVAS PIELS DE FRENTE DE CABEZA DE BANQUEROS Y TRAIDORES.
QUE SE VAYAN A LA VERGA!
mercyflush Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 am
brutal, dewd.
Who Me? Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 am
I’m not Mexican nor do I speak Spanish but here goes…
THAT THE INDIANS LABEL MY ASS CHILDREN OF THE YARD WE ARE WAITING FOR NEW PILES FRONT OF HEAD OF TREASONOUS BANKERS AND. THAT THEY GO AWAY TO THE YARD!
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
You notice how close Baby Bush is standing behind the judge in the photo. With a big smile on his face. I wonder what’s going on back there?
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
ZZZIIIIIIPPPPP!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
when will these people learn they can’t control the net,
Barter goods and services
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Their are no laws that protect traitors. We will be able to prove this judge is part of a plot. He can claim he is just stupid, but It won’t work. We will very quickly become sick of the “stupid” defense.
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
http://911essentials.com wonders if we should ban cars to protect the horse and buggy industry too?
How old and out of touch whilst reeking of desperation and Preparation H too.
911essentials is a primer portal introduction to the New World Order Corporate Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the fake science Eugenics.
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Tis’ true if Alex couldn’t link to other sites he’d be out of business but then CNN, BBC, The Guardian & even Fox would probably get less hits. Watson might get sued for rewrites and his fearful conjecture would never see the light of day. Sorry, I really like infowars but always get annoyed when Alex goes overboard on the antivax issue. Also today he did an AJ and cut off a friendly dissenter who pointed out an article going on about gel found in scotland had not mentioned chemtrails, only a few commentators had (most mentioned regurgitated/infirtile frogspawn, slime mold, airplane toilet dumps & water retaining silica plant feed. Alex asked the listeners to check out his assertation that chemtrails are all over BBC/UK news, I did – IT BLOODY WELL ISN’T/WASN’T!!
PrivateSi Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
…Personally I think the chap’s got a point. Those that make a living off linking to other’s work and using the introduction/summary of an article such as Alex should pay 1 cent per link & 10 per introduction with an obligation to link to the entire article. Of couse, alex could employ more journalists to rewrite other’s research a day later than the original article – cheaper and easier to link to the original though! Non-profit orgs & bloggers should be exempt from charge.
PrivateSi Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
…And no news service should be able to stop another new service from linking to it if it has/does in the future pay for the link/cut’n'paste as mentioned above or the big guys would be able to kick the little guys off the net…
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
How idiotic of this judge the comments alone have more integrity and common sense then this buffon of a judge!!! Banning links? How f’n stupid. You might as well ban television also news is news jerk off.
Heres some real factual news for ya INFOWARS.COM
Get a clue!
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
What a Sh**head judge!
Excuse my language but the name is appropriate for this jerk.
I suppose with that kind of logic, we should have banned automobiles when they first appeared because they posed a threat to horses as a mean of transportation. We also should have banned the transistor because it was competition to the old vacuum tubes; and on and on. This idiot judge would fit in well in a totalitarian regime like Stalinist Russia. He may be repected but I sure don’t respect him one bit.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
The Newspapers have now made their bed and now have to sleep in it! Where is the truth? Where is objectivity in reporting? They are not here to keep the government in check and expose corruption to protect the people’s liberty. They are a pawn of the state and are used to control and bend our minds toward group think, not independently free and critical thinking! They are the government’s tool to keep the people of the United States segregated into small interest groups and separated from the truth while our liberty corrodes away. Big media is now the enemy of the people and the Constitution. This is clear and undeniable.
This judge fears the inevitable! The loss of government’s control over big media’s daily message to control the people.
Plus, Newspaper Companies forgot what business they were in…The News Business, not the Newspaper Business. HUGE MISTAKE! They were and still are tied to the medium of delivery of the news and didn’t move their business with technology and where news delivery is today, the Internet. A classic business industry blunder! A dying business dinosaur! A slow and painful death!
Now, I can only hope that true unbiased and objective journalism will rise from the ashes and returns to serve this nation and its people.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
NOOOOOOOO!!! Say it ain’t so!!!! What will they do next, pay-per-view MSM???
Nobody wants to buy their bulls--- propaganda, THAT’S the problem. Perhaps if they started running truthful, accurate, and “real” articles, they’re sales might skyrocket. But no, they must listen to big brothers “guidelines” for what the sheeple are to be fed daily, not to mention they can’t pass-up those advertising dollars.
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
How about hyperlinks to citations of law cases.
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Recession
Posted: July, 02, 2009
Stewart,
Is this economic recession staged? Please tell. Thanks
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Stewart’s Reply: Haven’t you been reading my site?? Like, duh!
http://www.expansions.com/QA_Comments.cfm
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
i really enjoy the people that the show presents. there is very informative information on this program. what disappoints me is that so many people truly believe that alex is a man of principles and sacrificing for the greater good and sacrificing himself financially.
1. before alex was william cooper. and unlike alex HE PREDICTED 911. alex rode his coattails. how dare alex say he had the acumen to decipher the media and call that prediction.
2. several years back alex was invited to this christians home in texas who was having problems with the police wanting to raid his ranch. he interviewed this man because this man TRUSTED alex. alex allegedly then turned around and sold him down the river to ABC news( the interview) for like a pathetic few hundred dollars. ALEX is motivated by your money people, dont doubt his intentions!
3. alex would truly gain many peoples trust if he was willing to publish the way the money from the moneybomb was spent. if his intentions are altruistic, dont you think it would just be natural for him to want to LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW THEIR MONEY WAS SPENT??
4. i heard alex’s rant today about chastising infowarstv.com for potentially taking money away from ALEX”S businesses. check out infowarstv.com. he presents it alot better than i.
people please dont think that i know or am affiliated with the above website in any way. I AM NOT. i live in maine and have been listening to alex for about a year. i just want to say that the intentions of alex imo is $$$ first and alex loves to hype things up very often. i have caught alex over exaggerating so so often and while he is on point about alot of things, i believe he is greedy and i am very suspect of his true intentions.
peace to all
Spanky Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 am
I don’t think that most of us care about the “man” as much as we care about the “message”. Men, Human Beings, are generally greedy and selfish creatures when opportunity comes along. The validity of most, not all, but MOST of the message he spreads is what is actually important and worth attention.
I would recommend that you people drop any personal issues you have with each other and learn to work together. Otherwise, you lose before you even start.
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 am
Ok, so you say Alex is materialistic.
Other than that, what do you think his “true’ intentions are.
Honestly, I would like to know.
I just research for information – to be blunt – I really don’t trust any of them.
PrivateSi Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:55 am
I prefer infowars to Alex’s radio show and agree he should provide a breakdown of his money-bomb expenses. Of course this can be rigged but if charities have to, why shouldn’t alex? Well legally he doesn’t as his companies are private, not public.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
How about that, a judge that stopped thumping his dill long enough to make an unwarranted and unsolicited comment.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
HEY!!!!!!! so A. J. is getting death threats, and that makes him GREEDY, but the evil govt. we have IS NOT???? GET A LIFE!!!!! and to hell with this judge, and let the PAPERS go under. BOMY BOY is being exposed by JONES, AS A COMMIE BASTARD, and THAT MAKES JONES GREEDY? AND “rush windbag” , who got a 70 million dollar contract is not greedy?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Who reads news papers anyway, except those who do not have a computer. With a computer you can find exactly what you want to read when you want to read it. Let’s face it, “News Papers” are a thing of the recent past. They are forcing us to go “paper-less” on behalf of the somewhat fake “green” movement on many other fronts, yet they claim they want to save the “News Papers”. Give me a break. This is nothing but an attempt to continue to protect the already “Controlled Media”. With the Internet & the free-flow of information the modern society is supposed to go well beyond anything we have ever seen. We are supposed to be able to do more & reach much higher than it has been possible until now. However, starting to restrict free-speech & the Internet is just going to throw us back into pre-1980’s & stump societies natural growth. Who is going to profit from this? Of course, the same small group of megalomaniac plutocrats & oligarchs that are responsible for creating just about every artificially manipulated “scarce resource” we now have. Scarcity = Higher Profits. Higher Profits = Money flows from the “poor” to the “rich”. Everything from speech, energy, oil, gas, water, information, natural mind & consciousness altering substances, minerals, metals, & many other resources are manipulated into “artificial scarcity” to further create more “control, profits, & underground markets” for these megalomaniacs.
I am not amused Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 am
Jimmy:
Your right.
You know about 20 yrs. ago I was having a conversation with a friend of mine about the disappearance of the middle class.
Basically, the polarity of wealth. We were discussing how America was a relatively young country and the middle class would eventually disappear. Basically if you look at history when the Royalty started they actually worked along side of the serfs. That did not last forever.
The longer a society is in motion – the more the wealth is polarized – basically the upper class rig the system more and more as they gain more control they rig the game more – so eventually they have almost all of it – the project takes time.
Tragic – this is how the game is played.
I never thought I would actually be around to see it happen, especially the rapid raping I am seeing with breakneck speed. Most don’t even realize that is what is happening.
That bailout – it was the biggest damned polarization of wealth upwards I have ever seen.
That is exactly what it was – I really am in sort of a state of shock. Don’t let the packaging fool you – that is what it was. The taxpayers subsidized the investment class.
I feel like I am in the damned Twilight Zone!
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
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July 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
What is the militia? The term “militia” consists of two parts: the organized militia and the unorganized militia. According to the organic Maine Constitution and backed by the United States Code, the organized militia is the standing military force in the state (the “State Guard”) while the unorganized militia (which is commonly called the militia) consists of all other males between the ages of 17 and 45 (or 65 if they have prior military service). The militia was established for the purpose of defending the state (a sovereign nation) and the United States of America (a union of nations) from all enemies “foreign and domestic” based upon principles of community self defense established hundreds of years before the nation was formed. However, while the organized militia was tasked with the defenses of the states, our forefathers, having just fought their own government, did not place their entire trust in the government or a standing army to protect them but reserved the right and the means to protect themselves – thus the unorganized militia. The militia was and is a defensive body set up so that its members can take care of normal peace by internal lawless elements, or government usurpation of the rights and power of the people guaranteed by the Constitution, there is a group of people that owe their allegiance to no one except God and their fellow Americans who desire to remain free.
The mission and purpose of the militia have not changed. What has changed is the status of the organized militia. The “State Guard” with the duty and obligation of protecting the state is now under federal jurisdiction (the “National Guard”) thereby obligating it only to the federal government making the unorganized militia the only constitutional force available for the defense of the state.
Spanky Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 am
Thank you, sydwayz. Too bad so many have forgotten this.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 am
Great site, I now have you bookmarked to come back again.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 am
This was a really great read, I am very glad I came across your site.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 am
New York Judge Richard Posner should go piss up a rope.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 am
This Judge Posner is famous and respected?
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
Tell the judge to shove his stupid stinking cancer ink newspaper up his arse.
I do not want to breathe it in and I think all newspapers must disappear.
Disappears.
The Internet stays right here, some of those pages have made it to compact discs, unto super computers with data mining capabilities and unto personal computers to be put on line when the time is right.
We, the humans, are smart because we are the only species that is poisoning itself with man made viruses dispersed in cancer chemtrails and poisoned vaccines. Still true wist.
We need to let the people that want to reduce the worlds population and that think there are to many of us rule over us and pretend we think nothings going on while the U N Military Police cars, the concentration death camps, the trains and troops roll in to take us away.
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:40 am
Oh, before some genius tells me I used the wrong form of pole, I nominate that we change to the form POLE for both intents, since both can be rammed up your A$$!
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:09 am
When they say newspapers they actually mean the one newspaper they have a monopoly on in every big city. Back in the late 19tdh century their were over 1200 newspapers in all america, now we have one which is the AP.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
yes they should take down the internet the energy saved would be great. Or a great tax …. Vits
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
ohhh it gets worse..
from a Publishers Weekly review of posner’s book, “not a suicide pact: the Constitution in a time of national emergency”:
… Saying we must balance the harm new security measures inflict on personal liberty against the increased security those measures provide, Posner comes down, in most but not quite all respects, on the side of increased government power. He advocates that coercive and even brutal forms of interrogation should be allowed in proper circumstances, that all communications within the United States should be subject to interception, and that government should have authority to enjoin publication of classified information. Posner (An Affair of State) would impose limits and qualifications on these assertions of government power, but even so, his views will provoke Category 5 protest from civil libertarians…