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    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    November 10, 2009

    Declan McCullagh reports for CBS News that the Department of Justice sent a formal request to Indymedia ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day. A grand jury subpoena required the independent news website “not to disclose the existence of this request” unless authorized by the Justice Department. The subpoena and gag order represent a new level of government intrusion into the operation of a free press in this country.

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    The DOJ subpoena demands IP addresses, times, and any other identifying information, including email addresses, physical addresses, registered accounts, and Indymedia readers’ Social Security Numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and other information on users of the website.

    The subpoena issued by U.S. Attorney Tim Morrison in Indianapolis demands a transcript of  “all IP traffic to and from www.indymedia.us” on June 25, 2008. It required website administrator Kristina Clair of the Philadelphia-based Indymedia website to “include IP addresses, times, and any other identifying information,” including email addresses, physical addresses, registered accounts, and Indymedia readers’ Social Security Numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and other information on users of the website.

    Clair told McCullagh and CBS: “I didn’t think anything we were doing was worthy of any (federal) attention.” She called the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco and the organization agreed to represent her.

    The Electronic Frontier Foundation has noted a number of problems with the government subpoena, including that it was not personally served, and that a court order is required for the server logs. Kevin Bankston, a senior staff attorney at the San Francisco-based EFF, noted the Indymedia does not store its server logs.

    Indymedia, short for Independent Media Center, is a global participatory network of journalists that report on political and social issues. It originated during the anti-WTO protests worldwide in 1999 and remains closely associated with the global justice movement, which criticizes neo-liberalism, and its associated institutions. Indymedia uses an open publishing and democratic media process that allows anybody to contribute, according to Wikipedia.

    “If you get a subpoena and you’re a journalist, they can’t gag you,” Lucy Dalglish, the executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of The Press, told McCullagh. “I have seen any number of these things withdrawn when counsel for someone who is claiming a reporter’s privilege says, ‘Can you tell me the date you got approval from the attorney general’s office’… I’m willing to chalk this up to bad lawyering on the part of the DOJ, or just not thinking.”

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    The government does not consider Indymedia — or the alternative news media as a whole (including Infowars and Prison Planet) — as legitimate news organizations. The corporate media does not accept the notion of “citizen journalists” and has consistently criticized bloggers.

    In 2004, the DOJ sent a grand jury subpoena demanding information about who posted lists of Republican delegates to the GOP convention in New York. An Indymedia hosting service in Texas received a subpoena demanding server logs in relation to an investigation of an attempted murder in Italy.

    Obama promised “change” during the election. However, as the latest effrontery to the First Amendment by the Department of Justice reveals, nothing has changed and the Obama administration intends to continue the unconstitutional policies of the Bush administration.

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    201 Responses to “Justice Dept. Demands News Site Server Logs”

    1. firstlol Says:

      firstlol

      some guy named sam Reply:

      Good for Clair, doing her research first.

      Mike Reply:

      Get out of the matrix: http://www.freedomguide.weebly.com

      Bartles and James Reply:

      Taking time card, pushing it through time clock, (da dunk). Walking to my desk in the massive bullpen in anyfedoffice USA, Log in id 1bdztrl Password: Trolling, logged in, entereing infowars.com, comments, ah, new troll name Bartles and James…Perfect for these sheep, typing comment:

      Ha hahahahahahahahaaaa, you really think that a “citizens” journalism is real???? Wow, where have you nuts been??? The only reputable journalists protected under the constitution are the time established media, paper, radio, movie, and television and any of those same media on the net.

      This place is no journalism site nor any of the others described in the article that are tryint to wear big boy pants.

      I for one am glad that I am not some paranoid wierdo that thinks anyone who vomits out sepculation as fact. Wow, you people need help. Thanks for the Federal Government, they are doing their job in keeping you loonies out!

      And still I will get comments, because people don’t read…

      lionheart Reply:

      Gubmint is your friend. I read, I read their own documents. You are in a mind controlled trance.

      de obvious Reply:

      You will get comments bcasue you are a fluoride-head, and possibly some degree of mentally retarded.

      Thnks for playing. Too funn, you actually punch a clock – join us in the 21st century already.

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      I guess I should stop drinking the free coffee here, but dang it is sooo good and flouride is just helping my brain from rotting de obvious, so there!

      Sorry you have brain cavities and cannot thinkg of anything original to post.

      Anyway, I love having fun here, so if you don’t like it, too bad!

      MAD DOG Reply:

      FK THE FED AND FK OBAMA

      THAT ARE OUTLAWS.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      OOPS, SO SORRY

      THEY ARE OUTLAWS.

      FrankO Reply:

      Your a clock puncher? Can anybody say “looooooooooooooosssssssssssseeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

      What a slave. Brush your teeth with Fluoride like a good bitch. Its probably too late for you to actually think on your own though. I would consider that nuts personally.

      MeJane Reply:

      did you mean “speculation”????

      chasity Reply:

      Wine cooler flouride head!

      scienceofficer Reply:

      ok now i see jessy vancheria’s angle? he said today of aj that he believes in evolution!

      the religion of the NWO congration al gore others? so we know why the cia did not remove the mind vancheria out of office some how?

      god is clear paul states as posted in the word of god, if even an angle teaches another gospel let him be accurssed? evolution contradicts the creation document posted in the book or writing of genesis?

      my opinion, let all men be liers and god be true. i do not worship the mind vanturia? i worship the living god soon to take action on wicked men in high places!

      alex do you believe in satan’s view of creation evolution? or are you a radio talk show host blowing that good old heated air?

      i believe your words give you away with the spirit of this age?

      Lord s---e-Butt of the House of Specklebush Reply:

      Mad dog didst thou let go of one of thine foul stinkers, or are the next door neighbors burning tires to stay warm again ? Thine flatulence shall cost thee 97 carbon credits, & get thee removed from this site, which thou has stunk up for far too long.

      Bill Reply:

      Obama kisses big bird?? WTF?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRBRtY2VWh8

      MAD DOG Reply:

      LORD s---, WHY DONT YOU GET YOUR BUDDY TO BEAM ME OUTA HERE ?

      BUT THEN HE’D HAVE TO EXSIST TO DO THAT!

      tilt Reply:

      Mad Dog, He will, on the day of your judgement when you breath your last. Then I guess you won’t be cursing him and asking to show His existance.

      Go ahead, He will not be mocked. The terms are His own, not yours, you owe all you have to Him.

      Change your ways, or suffer eternal punishment.

      Peace

      devo Reply:

      jessy vantuna is an evolutionest translated satan worshiper, period. god did not make man from slugs or amebas, no. god made man from dirt. and blue into his nose and he was a living soul.

      vantuna the mind jessy promotes the NWO agenda and satan’s religion evolution he makes me sick. go back to old mexico you demonic prowrestler washout.

      alex is he into satan’s religion on evolution?

      Steve666UT Reply:

      That’s the biggest crok of s--- I’ve ever heard. Because all established media is owned by these ass holes and nobody with half a clue listens to them for information. Take your theory and shove it.

      Sheri Reply:

      Bartles and James, judging from the replies, you were right, they didn’t read the beginning of your comment, subsequently, they did not “get” what you were trying to say. (Narrating a typical day of a troll)

      Uh oh Reply:

      Wow you were absolutely right. No one read and they are commenting away. I, for one, think you are right. People get way too distracted by the trolls and by the disinformation and by the divisionary tactics. Since nooooobody seems to understand what Bartles and James is trying to say, let me paraphrase….

      “The shills get you everytime.” Jeez.

      Col. Gadsden Reply:

      Bartles & James – Great post. Exellent use of irony. It blows my mind that ‘de obvious’ actually took you literally, as well as “Spiriblade” (sic), who misspelled his OWN NAME!

      To ‘de obvious’ and SpiriTblade – this post is not supposed to be taken litterally. The poster is merely pretending to be a government troll. The post is using IRONY to point out that govt. trolls are easy to recognize and are merely peons and pogues who sit at a lame desk and bother people. Bartles & James is not actually that person. B & J is not actually a govt. troll. And most important, he never intended for you to think that he was refering literally to himself. Seriously, grow up.

      Dynamic Unreality Reply:

      SUPERLOLZ @ the egotistical worshippers and “jessy vantuna”.

      informed Reply:

      lol yes unfortunately your use of satire goes unnoticed because people dont retain what they read. after your intro people only see red and all logic is gone. i too have tried satire only to be called a fed or fluoride head. i like tommy lee jones from mib, people are stupid confused and easily manipulated, but a person can be smart. answering will smith that people are smart enough to handle the TRUTH. peace and good luck rattling cages

      meagain Reply:

      uh oh BIG PROBLEM WITH OBAMA AND NETANYAHU. LINKS FOR VERIFICATION AT WHATDOESITMEAN.COM. LET US MESS UP THEIR DIRTY PLANS FOR US BY SHINING LIGHT ALL OVER THEM………….. me again 7777

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Perhaps ‘WHATDOESITMEAN DOT COM’ should be the subject of an NSA investigation…
      OR, a COINTELPRO debriefing op…

      Truth Reply:

      http://thetruthwatch.typepad.com/

      NEPHILIM COMING!!!! Reply:

      Notice the eagle standing on the shield or really disk ,this is symbolic of a winged disk ,in other words a flying saucer,very satanic ,

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      Really??? Wow, and I always thought the Eagle but really represents the pagan god owl being a Fremason symbol was the satanic emblem, but, hey, flying saucers are more satanic than any Fremason symbolism…IDIOT!

      You need to stop spanking your wanker and get out and see the world you tard!

      St. Michael Reply:

      THIS IS A GOVT TROLL… IGNORE-IGNORE-IGNORE!

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      BACK to MI6, poser!

      Drekx Omega Reply:

      Nephelim & spiritblade,

      Your are both incredibly stupid if you think all “flying saucers” are evil…….!!

      Someone has pointed out some biblical verses to me, that tie in with my recent talk of Galactic Humans, working within the Galactic Federation, on behalf of the Christ….

      I previously explained the true meaning of “Lucifer” and it is not the church’s DEVIL……..MORNING STAR IS A DIRECT REFERENCE TO OUR SISTER PLANET VENUS…The Planet that sent us our current Planetary Logos, 18.5 million years ago. Lucifer is the Logoic Oversoul that now ensouls this planet and comprises the souls of all humans and higher kingdoms, living on/in Earth.

      Although, the dictionary definition of said, “morning star,” is specific in describing ANY planet that precedes the Sun in rising, ESPECIALLY VENUS. So it could be Jupiter or Venus, but especially the latter…..

      So, in summary we have: “1 Corinthians 6:3 “Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!”

      and, Revelation 2:26,28.(Jesus speaking) “To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations-””I will also give him the morning star.”

      Superb information. And as a pure “coincidence,” my own family motto is: “SAPIENS DOMINABITUR ASTRIS…!” A mere chance fluke?? But uncanny, to say the very least..To be “given authority over the morning star” (multiple planets, including Venus) for “overcoming” on behalf of Christ, and “doing his will to the END.” Obviously, the end of the age of Pisces, or the END TIMES….Which does fit into the present time.
      Another point to note, with reference to the Biblical “END TIMES,” is that this work dovetails with the Mayan prophecy and Long Count Calendar, that clearly speaks of the final date being 21st December 2012, on what the Maya describe as “the END OF TIME…”
      There is no suggestion that the World ends, merely the AGE. The Sun cycle.

      The Ageless Wisdom teachings, working through multiple cultures and peoples, weaving God’s most holy tapestry of divine revelation….

      FOR IN THE EYES OF GOD, ALL ARE EQUAL….!!

      MAD DOG Reply:

      AND YOU ARE INSANE IF YOU THINK THEY EXSIST

      Drekx Omega Reply:

      But, Mad Dog….!

      The church thought astronomer Gallileo mad for suggesting that Earth was NOT central to the Solar System, as previously thought, by EVERBODY…..

      THE HISTORY OF SOCIETAL BELIEF IS ONE OF ERRORONEOUS ASSUMPTIONS, LATER PROVED WRONG, AS YOU WILL BE PROVED WRONG, VERY SOON NOW. Insanity to believe (and know) that ET is real..?? I don’t think so.!!

      I hope you can imagine (for lack of evidence) why Congress debates mostly “unmentionable worries,” like this..? What do you intuit from it..??

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....eature=fvw

      Titan Reply:

      What happened to free speech? Oh wait, I forgot, this is America we’re talking about. We live in a fascist, tyrannical country.

      James Reply:

      Titan;its good to know that at least some of us are in tune with reality. Did you know that in the early years of WWII a sizeable portion of the US citizenery fully supported the facist regiems in Italy and Germany ? I guess we should not be astounded if in fact the US of today has facist underpinnings ?

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Investigate the Walker and Bush banking ties to E.G. Farben, as well as the IBM punchcard technology to the ‘lists’ held by the NAZI party…and don’t forget the FORD links…if you go deep enough, and search long enough, you will uncover the unnatural and hidden battle for the OIL under the Meditterainean, and the sands of the various MUSLIM nations…for example: HOW MANY SOLDIERS did the Brits and Americans dedicate to be slaughtered against the WEIMARCH at EL ALEMAIN?
      FURTHER, WHY did we ALL have to DIE for this control of the SHIFTING SANDS?
      A LINE in the FRIGGING SAND?

      EdenKairos Reply:

      Titan, you’re an idiot. If America was fully fascist, they’d be dragging people out of their homes, killing them or carting them off to prison to be held without trial for who knows how long, and this website would not exist.

      Quit embellishing and fear-mongering.

      Thorne in Their Side Reply:

      Tell them about it Eden!!! We are only Facist Lite!! We only haul them off if the are still making noise when tasered!!!
      Or when we can pin the crime on them, Not just for talking. Come on Titan, the USA isn’t fully facist YET, we still have weapons! Gotta get rid of the guns, before we can become fully facist!!!

      Truth Reply:

      This is proof that the info war is starting to work. They cannot shut down the truth. Once people awaken they cannot go back. No censorship or propaganda will work.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      THE NEWS MEDIA IS WHAT EVER WE MAKE IT BE

      THE COLONISTS PASSED AROUND HAND FLYERS…

      ATHANOR Reply:

      GOOD POINT!

      Thorne in Their Side Reply:

      Hence the term “MEDIA”, and it applying to various forms of communique such as, video, audio, written, spoken etc. It is all forms of Media, and should be so mentioned EVERYTIME someone speaks of it! Or the next thing we’ll see is a definition change in good ole webster’s about what qualifies as Media!!!

      Good point MAD DOG!!

      Justin Thought Reply:

      Any form of TRUE information is media. Anything else is fiction.

      Where does that put WAPO, NYT, NBCCBSABCFOX, et al?

      Lean Cuisine Reply:

      Nothing is confidential.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LazUZz3K6IY

      DestryRidesAgain Reply:

      Say, Bottles James, better get that tongue unstuck from yer cheek. It’s starting to wear a hole an yull need a plumber to set the thang.

      NOPE Reply:

      Hell yeah on your first!!! The firster movement is still strong!!!!!!

      The economy sucks, let’s party!!!!!!!

      You win the interwebs!!!!!

      ps

      I have an article I’m submitting in the next two days, YOU ALL BETTER READ IT!!!

    2. truther 111009 Says:

      I love how the government consistently fails to follow it’s own rules. Rules are for slaves. They just get to do whatever the #$% they want I guess. Unless>>you fight back.

      thought_criminal Reply:

      oh cool the website is http://www.indymedia.org/ so yay be careful about going there you might get marked if the govt actually forces them to comply. i still don’t know the exact article yet.

      plz reply if u are aware of the nature of the subversive article that must be regulated.

      pissed in pahrump Reply:

      thanks for web site link i am on my way over there to see if there is a blog , so i can leave a nasty note to nsa, if they want to read mail lets give them tons of mail

      Salsa Reply:

      The gist of indymedia is to expose the WTO and the world banks……THAT is why O and his minions MUST stop their expose!!!

      Indymedia tends to think that capitalism is evil……I tend to think that capitalism, in and of itself in micro-form, is GOOD. But the banksters and globalists have hijacked it.

      So, I would defend indymedia on the basis of free speech….at least they GET that the globalist banksters are the true evil!

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Yes, at last…
      Indy is the ‘fall guy’ plant in the ongoing ‘INFOWAR’…
      Think of them as ‘deep cover’…

    3. guyfox Says:

      a short film about verichip and corp media and lieing shawn hannity and john edwards must see this film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmvCFd866R8

    4. camels nose under the tent flap Says:

      Here it comes

      roaddog6 Reply:

      does anybody out here use “startpage” search engine, and if so how is it. I’m thinking about changing to it, but wanted some feedback on it. thanx

      pro freedom Reply:

      I’ts great! The only thing is they don’t have a news tab that I can tell. I use it all the time. Its refreshing not to have to start the day with the supposedly cutsie google face.

      chasity Reply:

      A fukin men!

      Theo Reply:

      Its really good. Google is still a little better but the more people use it the better it will get.

      capt. handbill Reply:

      I use ixquick (same thing) . I like it better but I still end up using google once in a while for image searches, news searches, and coding/programming how-to’s searches. Just try it and see if you like it.

      Shanghai Spike Reply:

      Startpage is fine. We consider Google to be part of the
      CRIMINAL NWO in that it parasites your search records
      and keeps it in their database, (most probably for
      ILLEGAL SNOOPING later on).
      Startpage isn’t dolled up like others but WHO CARES?
      You just use it to find stuff.

      jeremiahIII Reply:

      Remember the news that google turns on your microphone and webcam to “better personalize your advertising”? “No people listen in, it’s all computers picking up key words…”

      undtektid Reply:

      try scroogle.org way better then startpage but I would use both to support both.

      T Reply:

      It’s fine, but also wish for News search.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      thanx everone that had something to say about startpage. I’m using it now and will give it a try. The one thing I did like about google though was the menu that showed up when ya typed something in the window to search.

      perfectcircle Reply:

      yeah, it’s good

      google used to be a good company, sigh

      nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:

      Indymedia and EFF
      vs
      DOJ Political Appointees

      Homeland Gestapo Police State
      Likud Joe Lieberman and Bibi
      Backlash Neocon AIPAC
      Projection much?

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      TENTFLAP,
      You gave ‘fair warning’, as is required according to the ‘rules of engagement’.
      I gotta give you this much ground…
      HERE IS THE FLURRY of BULLs--- (preceding).

    5. some guy named sam Says:

      Hear that jingle in your pocket? That’s the change Barry wanted you to have.

      It's Time Reply:

      You have change?

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      I’ll KEEP my money.
      YOU keep the ‘change’!

    6. James Smith Says:

      Here’s a date and time you need to investagate how about the 9/11/2001 Sociopath criminals. The Federal Government are Sociopath control power freaks. There’s no cure for a Sociopath. No medication will help! I dare you to look up the definition of a Sociopath; it fits most of them to a tee! You might say it takes one to know one. I might be a Sociopath but after reading the definition I sure don’t want that character trait or there behavior. Sociopath; check it out take a look-see! http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

      perfectcircle Reply:

      not wanting it suggests some measure of empathy,

      which certainly separates you from the criminal ruling class

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Don’t get too hung up on this minor discovery, sir.
      It is but a small part of the ‘awakening’ to reality.
      There is MUCH MORE, if you have the intestinal fortitude to delve even deeper!

    7. tumbler Says:

      http://www.startpage.com is great. Fast and secure. Now about this criminal government. They are operating illegally against The Constitution which is unlawful and a Federal Felony. Call them on it.
      Enforce the “ole piece of paper” time.

    8. Steve Says:

      Channel your energies in a positive way. Here are some suggestions, build a web page, phone your congressman, attend meetings in your local area with like minded people to form or support freedom coalitions, email your local representatives, do anything that can get positive recognition for the freedom movement and preservation of our constitution cursing infighting name calling all that does is turn people off and damage the reputation of the people who really want to effect
      change… http://www.bailoutmainstreetnow.com

    9. Dave Says:

      If I had to choose between watching FOX or CNN for all of my news or reading INFOWARS,I would without hesitation choose INFOWARS.
      Not only is the news much more relevant to my liberty,rights and security,there isn’t the mountains of useless garbage that comes with cable TV news.
      Screw the mainstream,they’re just conduits for government approved information that rarely really challenge the statements from the whitehouse-especially if it’s a democratic administration.

      Holy Toledo Reply:

      “Screw the mainstream,they’re just conduits for government approved information that rarely really challenge the statements from the whitehouse-especially if it’s a democratic administration.”

      You are kidding right?

      I mean where have yuou been the last 8 years under GW?

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Como ‘Sta, STUD?
      YOU have been on the ‘Infowars’ site about, WHAT, 20 MINUTES?

      Time to get up to SPEED here.

      chasity Reply:

      A fukin a men!

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Brother and sister, or perhaps juniour Army rangers (Chastity and Toledo)?

      If not plants, then still in DIAPERS.

      ACCELERATE your minds, get OFF the crack, and get up to speed, kids!

    10. got to know Says:

      it seems to work fine RD6, all ready this morning there were two hostage situations, one a kid at a ny high school and now one at the missouri state capitol just breaking, this sounds like the push for the gun grabbers and internet grabbers, not much time left,we will soon be isolated on information and then the legislation will pass without our knowledge to stop it, your ip address will soon be in the hands of the nwo and they will come a knocking soon if you spoke out against them and you own guns ya better stash them now cause I smell a big push to disarm americans coming in the wind quicker than a hog through slop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      annie Reply:

      This is really sad. I live in Jefferson City and I just looked through all of the channels on TV, not one word about this situation. After reading about it here, I looked at the KRCG website and sure enough there is a little info on it but not much.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      What do you expect?
      The MSM is NOT going to let the populace in on this stuff (football scores and ‘the weather’ are MUCH more important!).
      The Tele-’VISION’ has several multiple ‘CHANNELS’, much like the ‘SPIRITUAL’ ‘MEDIUMS’ who are getting the populace indoctrinated to accept the ‘theory’ that they cannot control their own destinies.
      You seem to be as ‘harmless as a Dove’, but you need to develop the other side, which is being as ‘wise as a Serpent’…
      Good luck, Annie!
      I AM
      MONTGOMERY SCOTT

      chasity Reply:

      Evrythg dne in slowwww mtion,sooo re laxxx…:)

    11. M Says:

      That is so messed up. You get a subpoena to give people’s banking and personal info then they say you’re not allowed to tell anyone about it. I wonder why the mainstream media doesn’t report on this sort of thing more.

      chasity Reply:

      Bcuz they r msm and paid well,like congreesss kritterz they dont work 4 u.

    12. Henry Bowman Says:

      These guys will never give the power back willingly. It has to be taken back

      fartinyourface Reply:

      The term power back,first you have to have the power.The construct that we live in is theres.

      chasity Reply:

      Lol,your focus determines your reality.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      GEEZE!
      TWO MORE plant names to remember!
      ‘FARTINYOURFACE’, and ‘CHASTITY’…
      PERHAPS they are swimply innocent ‘obamanites’ who can be made to see the side of light, instead of the theocratic Satan-worship that they have given themselves to…
      (I DOUBT THIS)…

    13. kw Says:

      Been down that road and it’s a long one. Take another tactic, Steve, and take that from a baby-boomer, Viet Nam era Vet.

    14. FLUGPLATZ Says:

      Watch this for 10 seconds and you will know what’s going on~

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKcV-t2MjU4

      Crito Reply:

      There’s a ground effect sometimes called the “air cushion” that makes it extremely difficult, even for experienced pilots, to fly a plane that close to the ground. It’s proportional to the wingspan, meaning it’s easier to fly fast and low with a cruise missile than with a commercial aircraft.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.....n_aircraft

      But debunkers don’t seem to be bothered by such aerodynamic facts.

      Crito Reply:

      And “the hotel video” shows an explosion AFTER the object penetrated the exterior wall.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4O4R0LWCQ4

      pilotsfor911truth seem to be fixated on flight paths but what strikes me the most is how whatever hit penetrated and then exploded. This was a bomb-blast hardened building. The exterior walls had been reinforced. A commercial airplane would have spilled fuel over a wide area on the outside, not thrown debris straight up in the air from inside like a high-explosive warhead might.

    15. SPIRITBLADE Says:

      [INFOWARS IS THE MOST LEGITIMATE NEWS-SITE TO DATE]

      [BAR-NONE]

      There are a few others i recommend, but INFOWARS continually shows-up for the fight.

      [ROCK-ON ALEX]

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      [Fail] of the double class!

      St. Michael Reply:

      THIS IS A GOVT TROLL… IGNORE-IGNORE-IGNORE IGNORE-IGNORE-IGNORE!

      restless native Reply:

      Even gov trolls gotta eat guys.Expect more of it,caus that stimulus money has got to create jobs somewhere.Wanted for government work 150,000.00 plus perks .Full health coverage and car.Must have IQ of between 60 and 80. College degree preferred, no literacy required.Must be able to not question authority, and be able to lick boots.Must be agreeable to be microchipped and receptave to taking all required vacines.Must embrace population control and global warming philosphy,and work as a comunity organizer a plus.Additional points awarded for membership in masonic order,BAR association,aclu,and ACORN. Apply @ Dept of Homeland Security.First duties will be to sit in a cubicle for 8 hours a day and posts insults on alternative media sites IE TROLL. Attempt to insult the intelligence of Christians, Patriots and to a lesser degree those who can write one coherent sentence of proper grammar.Will need to have no loyalty to G-d, family, friends, or national soverignty.If are totally illerate you can apply by phone @(666) TRAITORS R US

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Sorry, I’m illiterate, and can’t read what you are writing.
      DO YOU HAVE PICTURES?
      That microchip is starting to itch a little. I guess it’s time to go brush my teeth again (with CREST).
      My fearless leader says to relax, and do a little trancendental meditation, before responding…
      S A R C A S M !
      Good posting, restless…

      steward Reply:

      Restless Native,

      Give me five!

      What people will do earn a dollar.

      steward

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      Wow, all of your comments were totally SF GAY!!!!

      IDIOT DRONES, you will do anything you gay leader AJ tells you.

      wow, what SHEEP!!!!

      (end to the end)

      [Supreme am I]

    16. ש Says:

      Noone asked what Infowars does with your records.

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      Goes straight to the NSA, of course.

      St. Michael Reply:

      IGNORE-IGNORE-IGNORE THIS OBVIOUS GOVT TROLL

      chasity Reply:

      Who cares,privacy is a point of view.

    17. Goldmansachs666.com Says:

      ——————————–> Everyone, DELETE your ‘Google email’ accounts and show them that their DISloyalty to our Privacy Will NOT Be Tolerated! <————————————————

      chasity Reply:

      Why bother,this is the change we can believe in…get with the program.

    18. Auctions Says:

      So we can safely assume that infowars.com has also received such an order, and was gagged fro discussing it. This is why Jones mentioned briefly that the FBI visited his offices several months ago but he didn’t provide any details. Probably they have every infowars subscriber details plus IPs of everyone that visits this site regularly. This is why none of these sites should save any of those details in their logs, but of course they do anyways for some reason.

      Ass Pirate Barry Reply:

      The Feds don’t need the subpoena to identify users who visit this site. It is my understanding that they can monitor the traffic to any node in a telecommunications network. Remember the Pittsburgh punk, Poplawski, who killed three police officers? The Feds provided the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) with the punk’s Internet traffic records, which is how they knew he visited PrisonPlanet. If you doubt this, just think about it. The punk was just charged with killing three police officers. There is no way the media whores would risk a mistrial or a civil lawsuit by accusing the defendant of being a neo-nazi unless they knew WITHOUT A DOUBT that he posted the exact comments attributed to him on various websites, including postings on PrisonPlanet. How did the media whores know this if they didn’t serve a subpoena? Answer: the Feds via the SPLC fed the media whores the info via illegal wire taps — something they do on a routine, on-going basis.

      With regards to the article above, the DOJ is likely using the subpoena for a couple reasons. First, because they know that the fact that they served the subpoena will become public knowledge. It’s meant to intimidate and scare people who contribute to the independent news media sites (Exhibit A. Your Post, “Auctions”). Second, they cannot use the info they obtain against users unless they obtain it in a manner that permits them to admit it as evidence in court, which is the only reason they subpoenaed AJ. The FBI came to AJ for a limited purpose, and AJ disclosed this to everyone.

    19. TheMaverickChannel Says:

      Don’t forget about Gaza as the people fight for basic survival against the tyrannical rule of America and Israel.

      Please find time to view this video.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkgWGX5Ap_E

    20. PhoenixRising Says:

      WTF !! Are Alex’s servers next???

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      Did you see his site in the story??? No. Why? Because he already transmits this stuff to them, he is a disinfo agent and the sooner you realize this the better off you are as a woken up sheep!

      St. Michael Reply:

      THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL

      roaddog6 Reply:

      and he admitted yesterday he is gay. so much for pimping god any more gayblade.

      mike65 Reply:

      SPIRIBLADE……IN one of your posts above you say ALEX rocks,now you say he is an disinfo agent.WHAT gives?

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      Dude, you people here are wacked out, totally out of your minds controlled by alex, you do not even do the slightest thinking for yourselves…look at my name and then look at the name to the post you are referring to.

      I’ve outted this many times and still, the same morons keep posting how can you say this bla, bla, bla. Well this is my way of showing you dolts how blinded you are by following alex like a sheep.

      Dang, think for yourselves. Except for Roaddog, he is mad dog and a completely retarded troll, completely.

    21. Info Warrior Says:

      DO NOT USE THE “Startpage” web browser! It has a TROJAN with it that records everything you do on the web. It is a tool of the repressive govrnmnt!

      perfectcircle Reply:

      proof?

    22. Gas Passer Says:

      Did the Department of Justice get pissed off because someone was telling the truth about government when they were trying to lie about it?

      The Department of Justice isn’t a Department of Justice. It serves to protect the political elite.

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      You got it Gas, but why, if that is the case, is not Alex Jones on that list or in the article??? I mean, he is so great, he can predict what is going to happen and by many, many people here, he is never wrong and lets not forget he tells “us” things no other truther movement does. Wow, it’s like he has an inside look at all of the goings on in the NWO yet, he is never, ever envolved in any Government shut down of truth. I mean, he infiltrated bonerhemein Grove, bullhorned the Builderberg group, threw a rant in the hotel they were going to stay in and, wow, never once is he served to go before the governments high priests.

      Oh and lets not forget he “left a message on the white house phone” Telling the fearless leader we are going to take our country back and we know your NWO tricks, why did the Secret service not come to his house and drag him away???????? Very curious, eh Gas???? Very curious indeed.

      Hey, just like Jesse Ventura, I’m just asking why. Why has the feds not broken down his door and dragged him out to some super secret building (which I do believe they have). I mean come one, it has to be questioned.

      One other thing I don’t agree with here from some of you, is that the gov couldn’t do that because AJ is so popular. He is popular in your small circle, outside of your circle (the world) he is unknown or immediatly forgotten when he is on MSM. So, I ask again, why is AJ not off the radio and why would a MSM company keep someone who tells the “truth” about the NWO???

      Just questions people, I would very much like real answeres and I am doing my research to find out. You should too, it wouldn’t hurt and if you think otherwise then prove it with research that does not include his site or supporters.

      Intellegent people do the research, question the contradictions and never give up. I thought that is what you guys are all about, research or is only here that you do your research? If so, then you are no patriot!

      neon Reply:

      okay, i just loaded alex jones into a spacecraft and sent him to the moon.

      alex is no longer an issue.

      Did i just stop the NWO?

      SPIRIBLADE Reply:

      And…there it is, another sheep, wow!

      St. Michael Reply:

      THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL THIS IS A GOVT TROLL

      roaddog6 Reply:

      gayblade—you said you would have sex with a dude, so you loose all your credibility as a thumper. You’re gayand we all know it now, so STFU with all your thumper bulls---. If You don’t remember-You said you would give that guy a hot beef injection just yesterday. Well, its good you came outta the closet. About time. Now you can get on with your life and stop pimping god as a cover for your gayness. bitch

      restless native Reply:

      ABOUT A YEAR ago I posted a comment on how the country died @ Gettysberg when Gen Picket charged cemetery ridge. About 6 months go by and I post an add on craigs list. I then receive an e-mail from a mary_schilling @ yahoo.com with the post, and inquiring about my craigs list service! Any comment? All true Christians are first on their list any way followed by vets, so what…….

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Obviously, ‘craigslist’ is the culprit here…

      restless native Reply:

      Have any of you got email from a mary_schilling @ yahoo.com? testing 1 2 3

      restless native Reply:

      Spiritblade,last post for me.BNTKU. DITTO , John13v26

      roaddog6 Reply:

      restless–you should have posted leviticus 9 to gayblade.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      THIS NAME that you are referring to is SOMEONE ELSE.
      ROADDHOG 6 was fooled as well.

      Be careful, I’m sure that there are other disinfo ops working this website, perhaps using YOUR names, and perhaps MINE…
      ALEX NEEDS to have requirements for posting which allow only names linked with ‘emails’ or something…
      IT’S GETTING REALLY BAD…THE HEAT IS BEING TURNED UP!
      Something about that ‘HOPE for CHANGE’ we can ALL believe in…

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      I mean, SERIOUSLY!
      LOOK at this thread…
      ‘Gas Passer’ poses a deflective question, and someone using ‘SPIRITBLADE’ as a name posts things which are EXACTLY COUNTER TO HISTORICAL POSTINGS by this same name!
      The style is wrong, the length is WAY too long, the essence of the thoughts runs COUNTER to the pattern which has been established…
      There is a third (NEON), which deflects even further, and so on…

      ‘Welcome to MIND CONTROL 101. Your instructor will be: Mr. Soetoro, who studied under the greats, Ayers, Pelosi, Marx, and Hegel.’

      Don’t feel badly. I have seen this before, and got fooled, the first few times.

      I hear that Rupert Murdoch is going to actively block Google Search from linking to his sites, without some type of FEE…
      Saw this on SKY NEWS, yesterday (Murdoch’s parent media site in Australia). Saw the story about this SIX MONTHS AGO, on the ‘alternet’…like ‘INDYMEDIA, et.al…
      Does this mean that i won’t get to link to stories on FAUX NEWS (You comply! WE DECIDE!)???

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      HMMM…
      An AVATAR!
      Can’t you tell the real one from the plant?
      The one you are responding to is SO OBVIOUSLY planted…

    23. Thought_Criminale Says:

      oh cool the website is http://www.indymedia.org/ so yay be careful about going there you might get marked if the govt actually forces them to comply. i still don’t know the exact article yet.

    24. TS Gordon Says:

      I have a better approach. Always be yourself. Always use language to make your points as clearly as possible. Do what you say you will do, and never threaten –truly threaten– anyone, just as if the Golden Rule really were written into civil Law.

      Meanwhile, “burn Washington DC, Nuke Central London, (and the Hamptons and Beverly Hills and Boca Raton,) and toss up a brick every time you see another one of these offensive (public) Video cams!”

      ..Pleeease, Obama, put me on the covert-Ops list!!

    25. dracula Says:

      how do you know that start page has a trojan unless you put it there now i am kidding here but where do u get the info on said browser

    26. William Morgan -American Hero Says:

      SOCIAL SECURITY #’s ?!? Bank Account #’s ? If anyone was so stupid as to give their SS# or bank account #to a website- then hell- they DESERVE what they get! F*** the dumb sheeple retards!

    27. Nostradamus Predicts Says:

      Nostradamus Predicts:

      From a high building, with an open window, Alex Jones will succumb.

      So, shall it be.

      Truth & Reconciliation Reply:

      Please provide us with a link to your insight …

      3 star staircase Reply:

      Hey nostradamis,

      You added an extra letter to the end of that last word.
      Please fix.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Gee, Nostro, are you the one that caused the suicide of the microbioligist in the U.N. building (17 flights of stairs)?
      Didn’t you do this to another microbiologist, not too long ago?
      DE-JA-VU, all over again!
      Which part of the NSA/CIA/DHS/MI6 do YOU work for?

      Naw, you aren’t that smart (you refer to weird, uncorroberated ‘predictions’ by a vague generalitist such as Nostradamus).
      Too much time studying the ‘gaming console’ used by the ARMY, no doubt…

    28. phfaty Says:

      Stifling dissent today may lead to a bigger problem down the road for Democracy. Dissent exists as a result of Democracy. Democracy in this nation is a product of dissent. In a way, they both go hand in hand like Ying and Yang. If you care about Democracy and your right to disagree, you should use some of that energy to focus on the Swine Flu Pandemic. Read daily updates on the Swine Flu Pandemic without the usual bulls--- on http://fluhealer.blogspot.com

    29. Joe Says:

      Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm

      I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.

    30. Sicily Speckled Undies Says:

      I would like to read the actual blogs from that whole time frame at Indy Media, and try to see just what it is they are looking for.

      Anyone know specifically through the grapevine what they might be looking for?

      Things on Hasan perhaps?

      Part of his “sheepdipping” prior to the act?

      Salsa Reply:

      I agree!

      Have you researched the HEGELIAN DIALECTICAL PROCESS?

      I suggest all who visit here investigate this…..because we are ALL a part of the DIALECT, whether we like it or not.

      The elites use both COMMUNISM and CAPITALISM to achieve total ECONOMIC and

      Butt Ranger Barry Reply:

      I don’t think the Indy Media subpoena has anything to do with Hasan. Judging from the article, it appears the subpoena was served before the Ft. Hood false flag.

      I love your name, by the way.

    31. Candles Says:

      This is ridiculous!
      I wonder how many people out there are curious as to why America’s chairman, opps!, president, allows things like this to go on. Oh wait, I forgot, most of them are to busy watching the simpsons.
      I’ve discovered a system, that if used properly, will enable you to draw like-minded people to you, and help us spread the truth faster. If anyones interested in these tools, and I won’t lie, they do cost money to use, although if you use them right, they make a lot more then you spend, then leave a response, and I’ll get a hold of you through some other means to show you the system.
      And to the info-wars guys, please don’t delete this, it’s completely up to your readers to do this, at least give them the oppurtunity to look and make their own choices about it. That is what your all about isn’t it? Freedom of choice and spreading the truth?.

    32. Candles Says:

      Wow, another harmless post deleted. If anyone interested in some tools to help spread the truth, click on my name to check it out.

      petri dish Reply:

      MLM?

    33. fluhealer Says:

      Dissent is a symptom of a healthy Democracy. The day that all dissent is completely gone in a Democracy, it is also the last day of Democracy. They are like Yin and Yang, inseperable, conjoined twins with totally different personalities. They exist at each others mercy.

      http://fluhealer.blogspot.com -Get Swine Flu news and reports that you wont get from CNN or Fox News.

    34. Elvin Diablo Says:

      Justice Department is just ASKING to be killed with this kind of terrorist activity. Push to far motherf---ers and you’ll get goddamnyour brains blown out no matter what badge you think protects you.

    35. AnthraxSleuth Says:

      This is humorous to me because of the fact that if anyone really wanted to catch the anthrax killer(s) all they would have to do is subpoena MSNBC’s messageboard from September and October of 2001. There they would find postings from Otillie Lundgren and Kathy Nguyen which connects them and is where the anthrax mailer got their addresses.

    36. jonny Says:

      Same old s---, different day

      IM NOT A FREAKING BOT, so dont acuse me of being one i’m simply sharing this website that hides your IP and doesnt slow your internet surfing down

      http://www.anchorfree.com download it, it changes your IP for you everytime you connect to the network and its 100% free

      im sharing this website because its relevant to this story and if people had been using anchor free they could be 100% secure

      its a good Anti-NWO tool

      Truth & Reconciliation Reply:

      It has been removed?

    37. Susan Says:

      Bartle James…. Are you SERIOUS ? We don’t READ ? Run your posting through a spellchecker.
      But what can we expect from a product of our public school system. I pity you.

    38. Robert Says:

      The importance of this move by the DOJ is not to actually get this information they requested, but to test the waters to see how far they can go before their request is knocked down by opposition. The people behind this move are just testing the waters for the future. This has nothing to do with catching terrorist. It’s solely an attempt to bring the freedom of expression to heel. The people behind this move know that the official line on terrorism is total nonsense. They are not playing games.

    39. Travis Says:

      How about Alex or one of the employees at infowars get an AA in journalism. They then have the credentials to maybe qualify as a journalist to the government standard.

      Beat them at their own game.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Um, TRAVIS…
      Did George Washington have an A.A. degree?
      Did Ben Franklin have a B.A. degree?
      Did Hamilton have an M.B.A.?
      Did Jefferson have a Master’s degree?

      They WERE (and ARE) the ‘GOVERNMENT STANDARD’, as they WROTE lhe LAWS that govern this nation (of which you refer to).
      SORRY i have never seen a single ’sheepskin’ from HARVARD or YALE that names these guys…

    40. ש Says:

      Deleted for asking what IW does with it’s own records?

    41. Alex, I Need Help Says:

      Alex Jones,

      I hope you are reading this and having a wonderful day.

      This is no joke, so please listen to me.

      I am hoping you can help me here. I have in my posession, a tape, filmed immediately after the JFk asassination from in front of the TSBD. This film clearly shows Ted Shackley (Operation WAVE-Miami and Cliff Barnes CIA station Chief?, both CIA agents, “running the operation.”

      Shackley is waving his hands directing his people around and going wildly from point to point, Cliff Barnes himself, in this film, even comes at the taker of this film and then the taker of the film, suddenly stops filming.

      I obtained this film in 1979 in Ft Worth, Texas at a garage sale. It was still in the Bell and Howell camera, which was in a case, when I got it home. If you are interested in obtaining this original film, please let me know here, as I am scared schitless to post any email address or any personal information of mine at all related to this film. We can discuss how to get it to you safely and all of the rest. But here only. Okay?

      Again Alex, this is no joke, this is a bonafide original film. To be honest with you, I want it gone and out of my posession, as I have been too afraid to say a word to anyone all of these years. And that includes my Priest and my wife of 43 years. I am even afraid to take it out and view it anymore, what with all of the new technology they have now, who’s to say they couldn’t “detect” it being viewed, you know? I saw what happened to people over the years who got too close. I need it totally out of my life Alex. And then into the hands of someone who will know exactly what to do with it. Like you. Maybe you can give it to Marrs?

      You want the truth Alex?
      It is all right here, on this film.
      I can PROVE CIA agents were ON THE SCENE IN CRYSTAL CLEAR VIDEO!
      No mistaking it, it is Ted Shackley and Cliff Barnes.
      I have checked and checked, it is them.

      And their are a few others who are suspicous taking hand signals from Shackley that I don’t know who they, but they are on the scene also.

      Maybe someone who knows a heck of alot more about all of this can identify them also.

      Talk to me HERE only.
      And I refuse to email you.
      Tell me where to send the film?
      You come and get it?
      What.

      I won’t deal with anyone else but you personally either.
      Talk to me.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      IF you are legit (which there is reason to doubt), you would not be broadcasting this information on an open site such as this [that is, if you have half a wit left in your head].
      EXPLORE THE SITE, find the info, contact, and travel personally.

      THIS IS NOT, I repeat, NOT, the site to post this.

      You are inviting SURE and SWIFT retribution from the powers that operated this action, so RUN.
      IF you are legitimate, you will heed my warnings.
      IF you are a plant (like those you supposedly have on tape), may God have mercy on your soul.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Texe Marrs, God bless him, is NOT the correct place to go…

      Alex, I Need Help Reply:

      Alex Jones,

      I will travel to Austin.

      I will call you when I arrive with the film and the camera.

      You will know it is me when I call.

      You just will.

      To all the naysayers out there who don’t believe this is legit, screw you.

      Ted Shackley and Clifford barnes are plainly visible in this film.

      It is the real deal people.

      I was a professional photographer and cinematographer in the 60s – 80’s.

      That was why I bought the old camera, because I collect them.

      I developed the film myself, and am very good at what I do.

      I am heeding everyones advice here and going to be laying low.

      I will call you sometime when I get there Alex.

      Have to make plans to get there.

      Discreetly.

      I will call.

    42. Comrade Bubba Says:

      Who here has some free time? Maybe Google or Lexi-Nexus the date June 28, 2008. What were they looking for?

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Start HERE:
      “In 2004, the DOJ sent a grand jury subpoena demanding information about who posted lists of Republican delegates to the GOP convention in New York.”

    43. WHY SO SECRET Says:

      ON THE GREAT SEALS, WHY NOT WRITE IT IN AMERICAN (ENGLISH) IT IS ALLWAYS IN LATIN. NO ONE BUT THE POPE SPEAKS LATIN.

      gordy three horses Reply:

      viddi vinni vichi, lavern navet, de opresso leber

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      VENI, VIDI, VICHI!!!!

    44. Nichols Says:

      Alex Jones hasn’t been dragged of by the government, nor has David Icke, because if they did that and he just dissapeared it would be just as much counter-productive as assasinating the president would be. Nobody on the right would ever want to do that because it would go against their cause.

    45. amazed Says:

      so out of all these posts only two people are interested in what actually people were looking at to get their info taken

      SHILLZZ AND FOOLS

      Sofa king we taught it ;) Reply:

      Come on make a website lets start waking every single person up use meta tags like miley cyrus and brittney spears and shove it in the sheeples face. We all know some day this is going to happen and if there is more and more site’s pertaining to the truth WE WILL WIN !!!!

      Salsa Reply:

      I posted earlier…did you see it?

      I was curious about this earlier today, so I checked out indymedia.

      They are a “left-leaning” group, but they are ONTO the whole corruption of the WTO and the world bank situation. They are obviously getting too close to the truth of how the banksters have taken over through fiat currency! I say that, but I am not in agreement that capitalism is evil….the people that have hijacked it ARE!

      In the times of Acts, after Jesus was crucified and risen, the early church lived in a sort of communism…but the people that lived that way were so impacted by the pure motives of their Christian beliefs that it worked. Communism, as it stands today, is a LIE, and is simply a tool of those that hunger for true and complete POWER….under the guise of “helping the common man.”

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Sorry, ‘amazed’, I fall outside your two ‘boundries’…
      TELL US, what have YOU knowledge of?

    46. last word Says:

      Alex, I Need Help Says

      “I obtained this film in 1979 in Ft Worth, Texas at a garage sale. It was still in the Bell and Howell camera, which was in a case, when I got it home.”

      So if it was still in the camera that means you developed the film and then watched it? Cause you know cameras back then you had to develop the film not just plop it in the VCR.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      VCR recording technology is far beyond the abilities of the early 1960’s. YOU ARE CORRECT about this aspect of incredulity..
      I have been to garage sales, as well. I have bought books at such sales, as well.
      iF I bought a book at a garage sale, and failed to open the cover and actually READ it, this would be a waste of good money.
      IF I bought a camera at a garage sale, and found undeveloped film within, would I be curious as to the content, and perhaps pay to have it developed? There might be some ‘memories’ archived within, that might hold personal value to the former owner, perhaps, and it might possibly be within my limited means to bring an actual moment of ‘GOOD’ to the former owner’s life…
      There MIGHT be a point as to what you post, but, there are ALL KINDS OF reasons why this might be (not ‘IS’) a legit posting.
      Gotta weigh ALL the options, before ‘passing judgement’.

    47. LipMcNip Says:

      The department of “INJUSTICE”

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      DOJ is a part of the umbrella known as DHS, now.
      Are you simply making a ‘play on words’. or attempting a call-up of an ancient memory?
      The military conscripts in the ‘last honest war’ had a sentiment that could be expressed here, regarding the ‘alphabet agencies’…
      F U B A R !!!

    48. joel Says:

      trying to take away our right to know?the media also doesnt help to contain/isolate ‘evil deeds’to serve their agenda.thats why theres counter weights.they use passive’yin ‘to move things.see,its like you cant talk about the sky without talking about the earth,[no up with out down]or at least know something about it.like in combat i can detect the yin feild because lack of yang.theres a drawing,’the breathing before and during the battle.

    49. sara1775 Says:

      I think this has something to do with a group called Earthfirst.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      In case you are resolute, and aware of the scope and true meanings of the root words used in 1775, I pose this one-word interogatory:
      EXPOUND.

    50. MontgomeryScott Says:

      I have this GREAT idea for Alex…
      Unfortunately, it runs counter to the point of this story, as far as ‘keeping records’ goes…
      HOW ABOUT a requirement to verify posters’ names, linked to email addresses?

      It might scare some away, but it sure would cut down on the false-name postings, and multiple-name postings…
      UH Oh! My name MIGHT be on the Indymedia ’subpeona’ list…
      So the **** WHAT?
      This looks like THIS:
      WHO DARES REPORT THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE SELECTED TO CHOOSE THE NEXT (ENTER YOUR PARTY HERE) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE? WHO DARES (!) TO ALLOW 300 MILLION PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO ARE SELECTED TO APPOINT THE PICKS OF THE TRUE LEADERS IN THE WORLD?

      This ought to bring out ‘TROLLY’ and ‘BABYBULL’ and the various plants using legitimate posters’ names…such as Mad dog’s and SpiritBlade’s…and that wine-out-of-a-bag guy, ‘Bartles and James’…

      sara1775 Reply:

      That’s like people who say they don’t care that there are cameras everywhere because they’re not doing anything illegal.

      Why would anyone want to post with their real name? So some wacko can cross reference it and stalk the person?

      Many authors in the past have used alias names. Is MontgomeryScott your real name?

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      Are YOU ’some ‘wacko’?

      Are you WORRIED about using your alias, dear one (born in 1775)?
      My ’screen name’ is the one that I use.
      This is verifiable.

      HOW ABOUT YOU?

      Good luck with THAT ’spin’.

    51. Alex, I Need Help Says:

      Alex Jones,

      I will travel to Austin.

      I will call you when I arrive with the film and the camera.

      You will know it is me when I call.

      You just will.

      To all the naysayers out there who don’t believe this is legit, screw you.

      Ted Shackley and Clifford barnes are plainly visible in this film.

      It is the real deal people.

      I was a professional photographer and cinematographer in the 60s – 80’s.

      That was why I bought the old camera, because I collect them.

      I developed the film myself, and am very good at what I do.

      I am heeding everyones advice here and going to be laying low.

      I will call you sometime when I get there Alex.

      Have to make plans to get there.

      Discreetly.

      I will call you.

      MontgomeryScott Reply:

      GOOD TIDINGS, or GOOD LUCK (whichever you prefer).
      If you are one of ‘THE WAY’, there is help in unexpected places.

      Don’t defend yourself on this posting (that is not a sign of strength).
      Sometimes (if you are genuine), you just ‘have to do what you have to do’.
      There are OTHER places in the ‘States which have the ability to disseminate this info.

      TGFY.

    52. momento Says:

      the cbs blog where this was posted http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2.....=mncol;txt has now been taken down… odd

    53. MontgomeryScott Says:

      ALIVE AND WELL:
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    62. 9th1 Says:

      Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life

      By ARIEL DAVID (AP) – 14 hours ago

      VATICAN CITY — E.T. phone Rome. Four hundred years after it locked up Galileo for challenging the view that the Earth was the center of the universe, the Vatican has called in experts to study the possibility of extraterrestrial alien life and its implication for the Catholic Church.

      “The questions of life’s origins and of whether life exists elsewhere in the universe are very suitable and deserve serious consideration,” said the Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, an astronomer and director of the Vatican Observatory.

      Funes, a Jesuit priest, presented the results Tuesday of a five-day conference that gathered astronomers, physicists, biologists and other experts to discuss the budding field of astrobiology — the study of the origin of life and its existence elsewhere in the cosmos.
      http://www.google.com/hostedne.....AD9BSTO1G1
      ___________

      After the vatican and the high priests finally Figure Out that they:

      ” Are Not God’s Representatives on Earth ”

      They now start looking for ” Alien Life ” in the Universe…

      Duhh…

      8)

    63. Garrett Says:

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      If you were smart you would question everyone, Alex has said this himself. I find his stories interesting and research them outside of his circle if it’s something important to me.
      We’ve all read stories here we disagree with or feel the spin was a bit much, but I keep saying, at least they’re putting it out there. But ultimately, you have to think for yourself and become a critical thinker, otherwise you’re just a sheep of a different color.

    65. sara1775 Says:

      Here’s something I found on the date in question.
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