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Justice Kennedy Says Constitution Open to Interpretation
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Julianna Parker Jones
The Norman Transcript
October 2, 2009
The authors of the U.S. Constitution intentionally made it open to interpretation so that it could be adapted to meet changing societal issues, Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy said Thursday in Norman.
“I think (they) sensed that they were on the edge of world history, but they were cautious and they knew it was difficult to rise above injustices and inequalities of their own time,” said Kennedy, who is often viewed as the swing vote on the Supreme Court.
Kennedy addressed about 1,500 University of Oklahoma College of Law alumni and students at the centennial celebration for the college at the Embassy Suites Hotel and Conference Center.
Kennedy was the keynote speaker at the event. He participated in a fireside chat with OU President David Boren, who praised Kennedy as he introduced him.
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Boren asked Kennedy what he thought of the state of civic education in the U.S.
Kennedy said that Thomas Jefferson said democracy requires “virtuous, enlightened people.” It’s evident, he said, that young people in the U.S. are not being educated about the history of this country or the freedoms they possess.
“You don’t take a DNA test to see if you believe in freedom, it’s taught,” Kennedy said.
Kennedy said more emphasis needs to be placed on educating American citizens.
“You cannot defend what you do not know, and we are in crisis,” he said.
Earlier Thursday, Kennedy taught a Constitutional Law class to first year law students at the College of Law.
Student Megan Dearth said he was an excellent teacher and asked students questions. He asked one woman about the Constitution and when she didn’t know the answer, he gave her his copy.
“He carries a Constitution,” Dearth said. “Pulls it out and hands it to her so she could read it.”
Dearth said she was honored to hear the justice and be taught by him in class.
“Any attorney I talked to said that’s a once in a lifetime opportunity,” she said.
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October 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 am
My foot.
Nor is my OATH TO THE DEFEND CONSTITUTION FROM ALL ENEMIES up for interpretation.
You’re my enemy.
[WE AIN'T IN THE PRISONER-TAKIN' BUSINESS]
Red Dawn 09 Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Sure it is open to interpretation if your wanting to change it and you weasled your way into a position of power and are kicking and clawing your way into the history books as the jackass that tried to change the consitution. Click my name for more information on todays hottest topics including swine flu,Ron Paul,Bilderberg and others. Movies,video’s,blog’s,text and when you cant cram anymore, Games. Updated daily and newly awakened patriots welcome.
Vote Third Party Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
This guy needs to do something about our freedom of speech. That gets violated everyday.
http://www.Vote3rdPartyNow.org
SpyWitnessNews Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Our school system is whacked and getting worse. I ask a simple question all the time to people, “Can you name the 3 branches of government?” specially to those who are talking politics. Most can not. So what Obama’s answer: Says No Play For The Children http://www.spywitnessnews.org/.....y-children
oldnamvet Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 pm
HANG THE SUPREME COURT,SHOULD DONE AWAY WITH THEM UNDER THE COMMUNIST EARL WARREN GANG WHO LOVED BRINGEN THE UNITED NATIONS TO US SOIL.
NEPHILIM COMING !!!!! Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Gods inailiable rights givin to man are not subject for interpitation by man you freemason scum bag ! Compare freemasoson emblem with star of David only draw parallel lines across free mason emblem
kw Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
A very good example of tactics employed by lawyers to promote the expansion of the “profession” and the continued creation of job security.
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Rachel sure did have a BIG problem with Grayson’s use of a word…
She sounded just like an AIPAC Neocon “dishing out the punishment”
Honesty compassion intelligence guts?
We have an ongoing American Holocaust.
Do you still want to believe what they told you about 9/11?
The guilty are busy importing private mercenaries to hide behind.
Miguel Angel Tinoco Rodriguez. Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
These are corrupt and vagabund judges that hear nothing, see nothing and speak nothing. Instead of them adhering to the facts and the truth they want he truth to adhere to them. Instead of being in the side of God they hope that God is in their side. Instead of adpating to the times, they want the times to adapt to them. And foremost insted of them abiding by the law they want the law to abide by them. By their fruits ye shall know them. These are evil doers. And I assure you that they will have their rewards. They will cry bitterly when they are cast into the dungeons of hell. For with the same stick that they measured their fellow servants, they will also be meaured only double.
IrishGal Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Before God sends judges to Hell, let’s impeach them first.
cornelius Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 am
That’s why obama is promoting key people in the supreme justice department, like the woman headlined recently (I forgot her name).
David Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
….were in the fascist killin business and cousin, business is gettin’ ready to be a boomin’…..
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Agreed!!!
AntiglobalJoel Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I “interpret” comments like that as treasonous, and hopefully , soon a day will come that traitors will die a traitor’s death.
AntiglobalJoel Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
…We in the Nazi killin’ business…lol….I love it
markus Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Alex Jones enthralls millions of people with his versatile elocution. Oh yeah, so did Hitler.
End the fed now now now Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
the CONSTITUTION IS SO EASY TO UNDERSTAND ANY CHILD OF TWELVE AND OVER CAN UNDERSTAND IT
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infowars.com
drtenpenny.com
goodnewsaboutgod.com by dr day
fluscam.com
WAKE UP
Griz Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
[WE IN THE NAZI KILLIN' BUSINESS, AND BUSINESS IS BOOMING!] Great quote; -)
MAD DOG Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP
THOMAS JEFFERSON CLEARLY, IN THE FEDERALIST PAPERS STATED
THE CONSTITUTION IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE AS IS.
IT IS NOT A LIVING DOCUMENT OPEN TO REINTERPRETATION THROUGHOUT THE AGES.
OUR RIGHTS ARE INALIENABLE.
I second that amendment Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
(Mad dog) Hear! Hear! I agree, reinterpretation leads to removal.
Ponor Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Judge? this fat ass bastard. The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence both are written in English. If I need an interpretation of the Constitution I will get it from those who wrote it in the Federalist and anti federalist papers. We have to start telling these elitist shills their phony interpretation of our foundational documents hold far less weight then the righteous interpretation of a real American patriot. oust these bastards and take of Country back,..NOW!!!
Titan Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
This is a very troubling to hear that a member of the United States Supreme Court says that the US Constitution is open to interpretation. So if the Supreme Court believed in 1895 that the Constitution required direct taxes to be apportioned among the states of the union, that in 2009 the Supreme Court could interpret the Constitution and claim that nah, direct taxes don’t really have to be apportioned anymore, its the 21st Century man! This is bullcrap! The Constitution means what it says and is not to be INTERPRETED! What ever the founders meant the Constitution to say when they wrote it, it means today! If the Government wants to change the Constitution, they have to amend it. But Court do not make law, judges do not make law. And laws are meant to be applied, not interpreted. And the Supreme Court is exists not to interpret the Constitution, but to hear cases to decide the Constitutionality of laws. Oh how this country has fallen.
Red dawn now! Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Whoyah! I am with you brother, the moron kennedy, another tyrant kennedy, just employed double speak, he obviousely has NOT read the federalist papers, he knows nothing of Thomas Jeffersons writings or any of the rest of our founders, amd Thomas Jefferson specifically warned against a putrid democracy!
Kennedy’s are sure enugh the enemy of our constitutional republic! My constitution, that I twice took the oath to uphold, preserve and defend is at no time open to interpretation, the founders were very specific and by far more intelligent than these subversive irrelevants who are working so hard to usurp and subvert it, they are enemies to us, our republic and our national interests!
Gabe Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:16 pm
The constitution isn’t open to interpretation. It’s meant to be taken literally just like everything else. If you have to twist something to mean whatever you want, your…bad…=P
lost Reply:
October 4th, 2009 at 4:08 am
I’m unemployed, no house, no wife, no dog, lost most of my friends when I started trying to wake them up to the NWO, they think I’m crazy. Just have a 10 year old car, and a crappy apartment and a widescreen TV that I never watch. Im ready to sell what meager possessions I have and move out. But where to go? Is there anywhere to go? I don’t even recognize this place anymore and I can’t even find like-minded friends or neighbors who are willing to defend it with me. I guess I’m losing hope. I just want a simple life, an honest job, a good woman and a place to call my own. is that too much to ask? I think sometimes being awake is worse than being asleep. Ignorance WAS bliss.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 am
True enough. The Constitution is open to interpretation, as well as legal and cultural changes. But lest we forget, it was Kennedy’s siding with the reactionary lizards on the Supreme Court that appointed The Bush cabal and set the stage for the worst Presidency in American history and began the End Game for us all.
Desslok Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
A constitution left open to interpretation is meaningless. And the worst presidency in American history is taking place now. The previous record holder was Jimmy Carter.
Ministry of Si Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Have you READ the CONSTITUTION? Parts of it ARE open for interpretation and merely act as a FRAMEWORK FOR DEMOCRACY. However, PARTS OF IT ARE NOT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION, are SET IN STONE. I agree modern ‘democracy’ TRAMPLES ON THE WHOLE LOT.
MAD DOG Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
YOU ARE AN IDIOT
WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY AND IT’S NOT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION.
THEY NEVER ENVISIONED PEOPLE REDEFINING WHAT THE WORD IS, IS ?
BobSam Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
To Ministry of Si,
Thank you for the fine tuning!!
I should have been more clear in what I wrote. Not only should citizens read the Constitution, they should read a few of the decisions the Supreme Court has made.
I wonder how many originalists who think the Second Amendment would apply to anything other than muskets feel they are covered with their automatic shotguns, 357’s and scoped, deer rifles. I am not an originalist and happen to think people do have a right to keep bear arms, but most of us would agree there are limits in the sense it is not a good idea for people to carry them into their local bank.
Red dawn now! Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
If YOU had read our constitution and the federalist paers etc., YOU would know that it is not and this was not and IWS not ever to be a democracy! They intended for us to be armed at all times t defend against regular criminals as well as the governmnet variety! (those ae the definitions of keep and bear!)
The only part that is to be interpreted, is the ninth having to do with the innumerable rights that we have that are not enumerated by the bill of rights!
ion Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
idiot, your kennedy is acting like a bush. he is manipulating the constitution to keep taking our rights away. tell you justice to go probe his fisa courts and leave our constitution alone. go away your honor your people are missing you, go where you belong, actaully why doesn’t all the fisa court put your in the chair to testify against yourself
VitalpOt.com Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
No Way! That s--- was signed stamped and sealed never to be touched, never to be altered but to be taken as how it was written nothing more nothing less and anyone who disagreess is just as scumbaggish ( new word suckas) as the “leaders” of this nation!
grandma Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
so, would Al Gore have been better?
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 am
Civilians do need to be made-aware…OF THIER-OWN ACCORD.
All men die, (but not all-men die stupid).
[WAKE-UP]
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 am
Some one get this guy off of the bench, What is the matter your honor you don’t know the number to your own UN. The UN has alot of power. But, you go ahead, you push the breaking of the 4th amendment with this issue, it appears everyone agrees with you. That is what your prescious judge is doing trying to add war laws from the Un into the constitution. Hypocrite. Go ahead fool your fools.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Breaking the law is what this judge is trying to do America, But don’t believe me. Believe your elite society. What is the matter your honor, doesn’t your country know what social injustices are. And you think they are going to learn it through the constitution. Leave the document alone. As for our kids and school, I think that you need to write a different curiculum. Stop teaching so much about WAR, and teach about the law. Get over your honor, I hope they investigate you over this horrifying thought. Actually, I dare you to try to put your war laws from the UN in here. Then I hope we have a civil war. Come on America. I am waiting for my army guy. It has been awhile since we have been terrorized. Against humanity your hypocrites.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 am
Hey, your honor, why don’t you call YOUR UNITED NATIONS. I think this is what we need to do ALex. We need to investigate the FISA Courts. Sounds like the Supreme Court doesn’t care the the America UN doesn’t work for America. So we are going to have to make them. That is the only way to stop the supreme court. I know of a case where a lawyer received i think around a million dollars for a probe on his computer. I can’t get casper to investigate the probe on my computer. Put these people where they belong, i am sick of it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
HA! Open to Interpatation? Im sorry but What the f---? They didn’t write it so that future leaders could be like..welll..this doesn’t really mean this..and that doesn’t mean that but means this…
that would be like Jesus writting the Bible so that people could change Christianity for the times..
LIke..Divorce isn’t wrong anymore..because EVERYONE does it now.
hahahahhahahahahahaha
Sense Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Jesus didn’t write the bible and it is HIGHLY open to interpretation. The bible is also 1 of the WORST CONSTITUTION ever conceived. At least the FOUNDING FATHERS KNEW THIS – and publicly stated this (in different words)…
http://www.evilbible.com for WHY the bible should NOT BE USED as a RULE OF LAW.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Actually, Jesus said, that the only divorce in God’s eyes were if a man laid aside hiswife due to aldultry, and vice-versa! IF a man or woman commit an act of Aldultry, then the offended party may get a divorce from the other, or “Lay them aside”, as was the law given to Mose’s!
I think this is written in Mathew somewhere! Not sure what chapter. But it is only like 2 or 3 verse’s!
But the Constitution was written in plain American/English, there is NO NEED to interpret it, it says what it means and means what it says! THat’s more than I can say for the Majority of the politicians and judges in D.C.!!!!!
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Sorry if I screwed the verse up, but It has been a while since I read that part of it!
national Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
“When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her-Rev
the Jerusalem that is above is free-Gal
Jake Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
If you havnt noticed people to interpret and change the bible to suite their own needs!
vitalpot.com Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Of Course I have noticed, my statement wasn’t implying that people do not already do that. And the Divorce was just a quick example that i threw in there. and I did not say that Jesus wrote the entire bible, or that it should be used for rule of law. I don’t have to explain anything to most of you goons cause as you can see, i write one little comment and you get all up in arms over one statement.
WHAT I REALLY MEANT TO SAY and im sure most of the people that read it caught what i was saying..
I was saying that people fall into this whole “well times have changed” so i used Divorce ( not stating any actual quote from the bible ) that because everyone does it in these times that it’s more accepted and allowed more. Of course if your wife cheats on you divorce that scumbag, and I wasn’t saying Divorce is wrong either in some situations its necessary.
I believe the bible is pure symbolism, ( example : Jesus didn’t really walk on water, BUT he did do the impossible, he didn’t feed a 1000 people with one loaf of bread, it mean’t he gave everything food, he didn’t make the blind see, he opened the eyes of those who were not awake ) So is it open for interpatation?? In my opinion No.
B.I.B.L.E
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:48 am
Watch Phil Schneider’s short (7-10 min. each) seven series tapes on ‘The Alien Agenda’ to find out what is really going on with the NWO/Illuminiti.
Sense Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
FRAUD with crap evidence talking about a FRAUD with crap evidence.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
They would be free to take away another one of our rights everyday if the constitution was open to various interpretations.
Where is our security if they can change the constitution whenever they desire. Hell,the next thing we know, they will make it legal to kill your kids should you decide that they interfere with your desired lifestyle! Hell,some of you already do that anyway. Some of you monsters kill your babies so you can afford to feed your s----zu filet mignon everyday or kill your baby just so you can go to the senior prom or company christmas party.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:58 am
The Constitution says Justice Kennedy has the right to live. How far will he stray from a strict understanding of this in order to interpret it according to changing societal issues?
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Parts of the CONSTITUTION ARE open for interpretation and merely act as a FRAMEWORK FOR DEMOCRACY. However, PARTS OF IT ARE NOT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION, they’re are SET IN STONE.
I agree modern ‘democracy’ TRAMPLES ON THE WHOLE LOT with TOTALITARIAN disregard for CIVIL RIGHT & CIVIL LIBERTIES.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
i’ve already interpreted what the constitution means to me & other patriots!
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Isn’t he the middle swing Justice? Looks like the Rodeo is on!
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
http://911essentials.com says liars lie about lying and never tell the truth … especially those that wear black dresses.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Sorry judgy boy. I dont negotiate with terrorist.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Ditto!!! I wish our “beloved leader” still held to that policy! (Can you see the sarcasm dripping off the Beloved leader part?)
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Anything can be interoperated- keep on sitting around introspecting with out ant actions. All of you Americans are soft sweethearts.
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
See what Americans are up to;
cc2009.us
givemelibery.org
G
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Get out and vote October 10th. Go to the website and see where in your state and check out your state’s candidates! If there is no voting center in your area, get one! Call the American Legion Post nearest you and ask if they’ll let you host a voting center Saturday October 10th ! It’s all about the Constitution baby!
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Kennedy is NOT a justice, I do NOT recognize any authority in this piece of human filth. The Constitution is amendable you jackass, you f*cking jackass. That is how you change it. Got it? You amend the Constitution when you want to change something. You don’t just change the meaning of words you f*cking jackass.
You f*cking jackass!
You f*cking jackass!
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTv6GRDINjY Listen to my call into the Neal Boortz radio show in Atlanta on September 11th where he talks about building 7 , trashes 911 truth and makes fun of Alex Jones fans. I then slip in Operation Northwoods at the end of my call and get on live around the delay..
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
What part of ” shall not be infringed” is intepritable? Seems strait foward to me.
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The Constitution is to be “interpreted” only in terms of what it meant when it was written. If there is any question as to what they meant, the Federalist Papers and other documents from that time are to be used to figure out what they exactly meant. Since the Civil War era, the Supreme Court devils in black have increasingly been activists, meaning they have disobeyed the original intent of the Constitution. This is treason. Most of what the government does now is unconstitutional, as it is not authorized by the Constitutution.
Merrie Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
ZARS! MCB
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Government officials don’t need to interpret anything..they’ll use to dips--- supreme court for that..any amendments or rights that government doesn’t want people to exercise, they’ll circumvent them by legislating Acts and Statues and furthermore, use bureaucracies to regulate you and your activities..don’t believe it? Look at the 1934 National Firearms Act, 1968 Gun Control Act, the Rockefeller Drug Laws of the 1970’s, the Assault Rifle Bill, the Patriot Act and etc. Bureacracy has more control over people than they can imagine..look at Motor Vehicles, DEA, DIA, OCSE, IRA, BATF, DOT, FBI, and every other alphabet soup arrangement of government. These are not agencies that are concerned with the public well-being. These agencies are regulatory enforcement agencies, plain and simple. These agencies have POLICE POWERS. They have no Consitutional authority-period. I would like to know how the world was BEFORE these agencies existed? I bet you the world was just fine. Yes it’s time…
FTW
Doc Holliday Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Also Dept. of Agriculture, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, OSHA, EPA, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Surgeon General, Dept. of Education, Homeland Security, FEMA, various Czars, et cetera.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Barney FRANK a Congressional chairman opined that Bankruptcy Re-Organization for the Derivatives Merchants is un-Constitutional. Justice Kennedy, start right there and teach Barney, Dodd, and Pelosi some Constitutional Law. The interpretation of every aspect of the Constitution must be interpreted through that Preamble’s “General Welfare”.
A. If the Congress would only debride the bogus Derivatives as the Clause gives it such power, the USA could be saved.
B. If the Congress would only stop the foreclosures.
Before Kennedy goes lecturing a bunch of Americans on the Constitution, he ought to lambast the House of Representatives. To the Justice the press whores will listen: Where is Kennedy’s so-called “interpretation: on the 2 million homeless families that the goddamn Congress turned out into the street? Where is Kennedy on the $800,000,000,000 off-shore heist?
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
“Justice” Kennedy is a fascistic piece of s---. The Supreme Court – which was never supposed to have existed at all (consult our original founding document, the Articles of Confederation, which makes no provision whatsoever for any such entity) – is Constitutionally limited to the role of adjudging whether any laws violate the Constitution or not. The court is not empowered to second guess the Constitution, or to alter, abridge, distort, misinterpret or ignore it. The Constitution outlines the limitations of the Supreme Court’s powers and the Supreme Court has no authority to decide what portions of the Constitution it will obey and which it will not obey.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I don’t have any problem with the Supreme Court interpreting the Constitution, so long as they do it right, by the original intent of the Constitution. Also, it is not the only body with authority to interpret the Constitution. The Congress and the President and We the People also have authority to interpret the Constitution. When the Supreme Court, the Executive, and the Congress have all gone against the Constitution, as they have now done, it goes to We the People and our militias to restore the Constitution.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Open to interpretation?
Don’t you like how so-called “Constitutional Scholars” like this clown Kennedy and Obama always seem to be the guys who want to “interpret” our founding documents?
You only interpret the Constitution if you’re an idiot who doesn’t understand proper punctuation!
For example, the 2nd Ammendment reads:
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
Some people (numbskulls who don’t understand proper punctuation) INSIST this means that the states have a right to form National Guards (ie. militias) and that those state militias have a right to keep and bear arms.
But if you understand proper punctuation, you’ll understand that a comma is used to separate subjects (ideas) in a sentence and essentially acts like the word “and”. Taking that into account, the Second Ammendment insures the following rights:
1. To form well trained (”regulated”, in the language of our Founder’s day) militias
2. For people to keep weapons
This sentence also conveys two other facts.
1. That the above rights are a necessity to the security a free nation (that means that without them, you’ll live under tyranny. Taken as a whole, it further means that citizens should be armed and trained with the goal of resisting tyranny. In their other writings, our founders convey that resistance to tyranny is not only a right, but a duty of all free people).
2. That these rights WILL NOT BE INFRINGED (meaning that those rights shall not be taken away, let alone violated – FULL STOP).
Keep in mind, our founders were intelligent, well educated men who wrote properly according to the standards of the day (ever notice that nobody signed with an “X” on those documents?). Some people get on here and trash anyone who attempts to correct spelling or grammar, when in reality, it’s essential to understand and use basic language properly if you don’t want to get hoodwinked by a bunch of tyrants. These guys use language as a weapon and use it well enough that they know that they can say one thing to the public and make it sound great, when in reality, what they are really saying is something entirely different.
Real patriots need to do their best to improve their ability to understand and convey ideas. We all need to strive to be the same sort of thinkers that Jefferson and others were if we are to be successful, because failure is really not an option. Some people on here seem to know what they are talking about, but can’t seem to put it forward in a way that others can understand. Meanwhile, a few others seem to completely misinterpret pretty basic ideas. Some of these same people also act like they should lead others. Maybe they could, but you can’t really lead anyone if you don’t have the skills to inform them.
This has got to change if we intend to get anywhere. I’m not suggesting that you spend time in your nearest government brainwashing camp (ie. school) or picking up one of their brainwash manuals (ie. textbook), but it is to say that we all need to take a hard look at ourselves and understand our own strengths and weaknesses. Then we need to improve the areas where we fall short of the mark. (That might apply to your physical health or basic skills too).
If real patriots are not ready and able to not only survive what’s coming, but to also relate and understand basic ideas, this movement is doomed and if you think we’re slaves now, just wait five years.
Doc Holliday Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
“Rights” always means individual rights. Governments don’t have rights, they have powers. “Right of the People” doubly emphasizes this. The tyrants have abused the “interstate commerce” clause and the “general welfare” clause to do most of their crimes. One must look at the original intent of those clauses, by looking at the Federalist Papers and other writings of the time. The only power given to the feds to regulate interstate commerce was that to prevent a state from treating another state like a foreign nation and imposing tariffs, etc. It was never intended to allow the feds to regulate every aspect of commerce. The general welfare clause was only intended to put a restriction on the lawful powers given to the feds, to make sure these powers were only used for the general welfare. It wasn’t intended to give the feds powers, in the name of general welfare, which weren’t specifically designated as federal powers in the Constitution.
Romantic Violence Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Rights vs. Privileges? Which one do people exercise? If you need permission i.e. ‘license’, then you have no rights; only privileges. Since we need a permit to protest, permits to buy guns, registration cards to vote, and other strange and peculiar horses---, like permit to live documents, then we don’t have any rights do we? Imagine being tasered for driving without a f---n license? That’s a de facto death sentence? This s--- is not our generation’s fault..Our parents and grandparents were asleep at the wheel or became satisfied with government trinkets, like jobs and entertainment, as usual. I wish I could relocate but I can’t afford it…
FTW
Doc holliday Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Yes, everything you say is true about rights vs. privileges. (I was earlier talking about Rights of the People vs. Powers or Authorities of governments. Governments don’t have Rights, they have powers or authorities, and only those designated to them by the Constitution.) We have a Right to travel down the public roads and we don’t need any stinking driver’s license or car registration or their certificate of title or their tag or their insurance. Our grandparents and parents, and in some cases greatgrandparents, even greatgreatgrandparents, were asleep at the wheel. They were too stupid to be free people. Just because you are home schooled doesn’t mean you have any brains. Someone has to teach you all the principles of liberty and train you how to fight for them and stand on them, never giving them up.
Romantic Violence Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Definitely…only one thing; authority, at least from a psychological framework, means that one party in a relationship is deemed superior to the other. In another sense, authority is something that is ceded by people to other people. Personally, I never ceded anything to anybody to do anything for me or to me-period. And these self-appoiinted s--- stains called ‘leaders’ aren’t superior to anything. But a nation’s leadership is a reflection of the people. Have the people turned into s---? I don’t know. I hope not. Tell you what, when those people born 10 years ago are old enough to run things, I’ll be happy when I’m dead…
FTW
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
“On every question of construction, [let us] carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
~Thomas Jefferson
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
The Constitution is not up for interpretation! These f---ing incremental s--- spreaders deserve the fate of traitors. Let’s get them introduced to the business end of the noose. We true Americans better realize soon that these traitors and globalists also know that they better hang together or they will surely hang separately, just like us. Wake the f--- up people! This time it’s for all The Marble. Earth!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
We sit here as the NWO devours our country. The Founding Fathers’ launched the American Revolution in 1776 firing the first shots in Concord and Lexington, following the two decades conspiracy for the establishment of the “Continental Nation” led by Ben Franklin, who had had to vacate Boston because the Tories were so rampant, and move to Philadelphia. For those two plus decades Ben conducted the secret conspiracy, and it was the Virginian George Washington who came to Cambridge Common, facing the Puritan’s Harvard University, to launch that cause for the founding of the “Continental Nation”!!
And what was the Army? Why, of course, the “Continental Army”!
So you see, the Revolution was not a tax revolt by that single generation who dumped the tea into Boston Harbor.
The American Revolution was the culmination of the Renaissance concept for the idea of the “Continental Republic”. Ancient cultures had cross the seas and oceans, and it was this knowledge by Cardinal Nicholas of Cusa that was indeed the inspiration for Christopher Columbus. Cusa’s idea was to take the best ideas of European culture, which had been launched by the circles around Dante, coming out of the Dark Ages, and travel west across the oceans to free those ideas from the corruption of Europe, and bring those ideas to the peoples here, and establish those ideas here.
The Puritans had come in 1633. By 1700, the colonies seemed doomed. Then a great breakthrough of history occured: The English circles of Gottfried Liebniz and Jonathan Swift in the govt. of Queen Anne succeed to drive the evil Randolph Churchill and his wife the protectorate of Anne out of the govt. Soon, Swift launched Governors Robert Hunter to NY and then Alexander Spotswood to Virginia Their main purpose sent to the Colonies? Beat the Tories blocking westward expansion, and Win the specific policy of breaking through the Shenandoahs west for the future Republic to ultimately include the continent. One can still go to Virginia and see statues all over the state of Spotswood, a genius architect.
By Ben Franklin’s youth, the idea of actually achieving the Continental Nation was well on its way. Ben was the protege of the 4th generation Puritan, Cotton Mather, son of Increase Mather – two generations of leadership in the Massachusetts Bay Colony – the Mathers the successors of the Winthrops since 1632. \
It is through these Puritan generations that we ended up with our Constitution – Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. The Pursuit of Happiness expresses Gottfried Liebniz’ idea of the General Welfare as the fundamental law of the Republic. Franklin erased “Property” from the draft, and from a book by Liebniz, Franklin inserted “Pursuit of Happiness.
THUS, everything in the US COnstitution must be interpreted through the GENERAL WELFARE clause.
That is not a small idea. That is not whether or not Lesbians can marry in one state and move to another state with no same-sex marriage and transfer those rights there.
“IT’S A BIG IDEA” – George Herbert Walker said that about the NEW WORLD ORDER, right? Right!
Well I have news any Globalist, and for the subject at hand Justice Kennedy, that PREAMBLE is a BIG IDEA!
The GENERAL WELFARE is a big idea!
Cancel the BAILOUT!
DEBRODE THE DERIVATIVES and BANKRUPT WALL ST!
Sorry, Barney Frank, bankruptcy for Wall St. or a Moratorium is Constitutional and as JASON BERMAS says, the INTENTIONAL Bankruptcy of the US Treasury by the NWO is TREASON.
In a way,Justice Kennedy is full of s---. The Foudners weren’t beating around the bush. There is nothign wishy-washy about the Constitution then or now – the Founders meant for a nation, for the first time in human history, to be devoted by Law to the General Welfare. The Preamble by our Founders is what separate us as Americans from the Beasts of all stripes, such as John Locke, Aaron Burr, Jeremy Bentham, John Russell, all of the Cecils, the Utopians HG Wells, Bertrand Russell, and Thatcher plus Tony Blair, and Gordon Brown.
It doesn’t take a Justice to interpret that the Bailout is High Treason.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
And whose interpretation will be considered the right interpretation? The way this country has been going the last 30 years….I would hate to see the constitution being dissected every four years when either a man or woman was elected to President………….oops……………whose talking about any future elections…….we have Obama/Barry as our Supreme Leader of the Motherland.
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Go to cc2009.us and there IS an election you can get behind. Go vote Oct. 10th.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
People, did you really expect the NON-SUPREME court to say anything different than this BS,
These judges are so CORRUPT I would not expect them to tell the TRUTH or stand by the constitution when they are are SOLD OUT!
Just hold on to yur hats because the other OLD farts on the panel will agree with him.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
wow great ,,so is the bible..go figure
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
“The two enemies of the people are criminals and government,
so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution
so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.”
Thomas Jefferson
chains = Interpertation ?
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
It means tie the second down..with the Cconstitution being the chains. When he says the second he is referring to the second enemy criminals and government. Tie the government down with the Constitution.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
“A statesman Between to attorneys
is like a fish between two cats”
Benjamin Franklin
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
“freedom just another word
for nothing to loose” lol
janis jonplin
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I heard Justice Antonin Scalia speak once about referring to the US Constitution as a ‘living document’, as Justice Kennedy seems to be implying. He said that individuals who refer to the US Constition as a ‘living document’ means that they want to re-interpret it over and over until it says what they want it to say. Scalia is a Constitutionalist, meaning that the US Constition says what it means and is not open to re-interpretation. I prefer Scalia’s views immensely over Kennedy’s.
We have four good Justices on the Supreme Court: Scalia, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas, may they all outlive the rest.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
These judges are packed like sardines, we all know it, the Supreme Court is probably the most fraudulent branch of government.
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 am
This nonsense is what I’d expect for a traitor like Kennedy to assert. Pass down to your children what a filthy scum bag he is.
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 am
You measure the Constitution by the yardstick of issues in the Declaration of Independence. Human nature in its concept of dominant submissive relationships does not particularly change, so we know the good guys versus the bad guys here. Our interpretations are clear, you either support human freedoms or you languish in tyranny. Fancy words pointing the nation into a jungle of tyranny with the flowery perfume of saying it is freedom is repulsive. The Constitution is very clear, and not something people have to change with changing times. The issues are basic you either support freedom or get out of town and let someone who does, read the Constitution for us.
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:32 am
I hate to say it, but he does have a point. What, for example, is meant by “cruel and unusual punishment”? And how about the “militia” gobbledygook in the second amendment?
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Excessive and not relevent to the crime committed.
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1. a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies.
2. a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.
3. all able-bodied males considered by law eligible for military service.
4. a body of citizens organized in a paramilitary group and typically regarding themselves as defenders of individual rights against the presumed interference of the federal government.
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
On the other hand, politicians, judges, and courts constantly create exceptions that are found nowhere in the constitution. They say, for example, that the first amendment doesn’t apply to “obscenity” or CP. Where does it say that? What part of “Congress shall make NO LAW abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press” do they not understand? They’ve mercilessly assaulted the second amendment and rendered the fourth amendment pretty well meaningless.
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
Great. A clown as the Court’s swing vote. Mandatory retirement after 25 years on court a good idea.
October 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Something not mentioned much om here is the view of the constitution as an invalid document written by oppressive white males. This has become an extremely prevalent view among black radicals. You’ll see this meme gain traction and validity towards the end of Obama’s first term.
The constitution will be directly under attack as a document, and defending it will make you a racist.
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Um, sounds like you are talking about the NWO.
October 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
best news iv’e heard all day, i’ll go along with that…you kennedy can see it the way u want and that will allow me to look at it the way i want to thats great fair game….
Texas IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
LOL!
October 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Justice Kennedy is pure rot and never stuck to any principle. He’s on the dark side.
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Well he can kiss my ASS!
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Why do all the paid trolls have IP’s out of Israel?
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Well duuuuhhhh!!! We interpreted that it means we can’t mention our creator in schools, that the government is required to be heathenistic, that we have the right to butcher our own children and that perverts have the right to be “married” simply because they are enthralled with the s--- portal. My god! And we think that we are going to stand on that document now as our assurance of freedom?
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
They said the same things about the King James Bible, and there are over 250 translations that stem from it. Preachers use the pulpit to say that “God said”, when he didn’t say it that way. This is the reason there are so many churches to choose from; too many opinions on what God said. And now the constitution seems to be next.
Their will continue to be sad days ahead as seemingly educated men take the highest forms of written authority in our country and masticate them, now they want to do it to the our constitution, this will give everyone the right to live in this country, any way they want to. When the law comes down to convict them for wrong doing; they can say I didn’t understand it or interpret it that way.
And if the perpetrator or his ancestors were from a different country other than America, they will get away with it. So “interpretation” is another word for your “opinion”, on what you think it should say. Whatever happens in Vegas (United States of America) stays in Vegas (United States of America), They are coming and going as they please and in between they; Rape, Pillage, plunder and burn as they see fit, and then go home, no conscience and no accountability, and no liability.
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
This is the guy who figured out, after 200 years, that the Constitution doesn’t really protect the property rights of citizens. Gosh! Imagine that!
October 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Listen here, whoever thinks that the constitution is up for interpretation. The founding fathers didn’t write the constitution in symbols so it could be interpreted in any way that can be deceiving . It was written in plain f---ING ENGLISH!!! If any of you pieces of s--- want to make interpretations for your own f---ing gain, know this, YOU HAVE WRITTEN YOUR OWN DEATH SENTENCE.
THOSE WHO READ AND UNDERSTAND ENGLISH ARE NOT STUPID. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP VERY FAST, AND BE AWARE THAT ALL OF YOU f---S WHO ARE TRYING TO BRING AMERICA DOWN, YOUR NUMBER IS ON THE BOARD.
THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH HOLES FOR YOU TO HIDE WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEGIN THE HUNT.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:42 am
To any of you truthers/anti-NWO readers of this living in OK. As a past resident of your state, I would highly recommend doing everything you can to get rid of David Boren. He is a well known trilateralist and CFR member. Look at the NWO croons he keeps bringing into the state, (Bush 1, Bloomberg, Gore, etc,). Sure he has done a lot for OU, but he is leading you all down a path of destruction with his brainwashing of the students of Oklahoma.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Hey truther- with all the time and energy you exert with copy-pasting the same space taking religio-rant under every single article on infowars and no doubt other sites, (in violation of the rule to have a point pertinent to the friggin article), you know you could have made more than enough money to have paid someone to create your own damn website. then you could come back here and make small one sentence comments, PERTINENT to the article, and include your website. I think somthing like this would be good for this particular article:
truther
October 4 2009
These Supreme Court justices are akin to the ‘rulers’ which the Bible says must rule in fear of God (2Samuel 23:3), but since they do not, we don’t have to obey them as some mistakenly think Romans 13 means for us, rather we must obey God’s Law (Acts 5:29). http://www.truthersrants.com
I hope my idea helps you get the good word out more efficiently, without pestering people nearly so much. God Bless