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Kucinich: Health reform legislation ‘a bailout for insurance companies’
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Stephen C. Webster
The Raw Story
November 2, 2009
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Appearing on MSNBC’s The Ed Show on Friday night, the House’s most unabashed progressive condemned Democratic leadership for removing his amendment that would allow states to create their own single-payer systems. Then he called the entire legislative package “a bailout for insurance companies.”
Under a single-payer system, like those in Canada and the United Kingdom, the government pools taxpayer funds to pay for citizens’ health care and fees are not collected by health care providers. The Kucinich amendment would allow individual states an opt-in to such a system.
The amendment is missing from health reform legislation unveiled Thursday by Democratic leadership.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Would like to send my Thanks to American People who are happy to bail out my relatives. With your help I can still purchase the latest Chanel Purse and afford weekends in the Hamptons.
InvestigatEverything Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The American People would like to say to you, go F yourself.
Health Freedom Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Choosing between government health care or private insurance, is like choosing between the gas chamber or lethal injection.
kj Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I think I will take lethal injection Im sure you get a moment of pure bliss right before your heart stops. Just like a heroin high.
Intent Gaze Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
You mean a heroin overdose?
Vincent Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 am
Your really dumb. You don’t know when your being lied to.
American P.R.I.N.C.E.S.S Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I do appreciate your kind and generous tax bail outs. We even use the bail out money to support selective elected candidates who are generous enough to vote for the bail out.
Domestic Enemies Net Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
You’re un-American and a loser. Everything you say, says so.
Vincent Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Your either really stupid or working for the elite. Kucinich is the most honest player on the field.
saturnx311 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
American P.R.I.N.C.E.S.S
hehe
Domestic Enemies Net Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
You’re un-American and a loser. Everything you say, says that about you. Who you are speaks louder than what you say.
Truth Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 am
it is not important to fight back against the Illuminati as if they have taken something from us. all they have taken is our participation and without it they have nothing, we need to take the spiritual path of Jesus or Krishna or whatever it is you believe in and live your life accordingly for if there was no need of material there is no need for work other than to make food thus ending this horrible cycle of enslavement
Rizann Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Your so right me and my friends talk about that all the time. Jesus, Krisha or Buddha talked about similar things. They knew how to break the cycle of materialistic slavery but I am afraid most people don’t think like us Truth. I go to Community college and just conversing with the average person you understand why the ELITE don’t even think twice spelling out their sinister plans today in mainstream news because id say 75% of the american public are ignorant television slaves and materialistic idolaters. I am not part of organized religion but have chose a spiritual path for rest and relaxation it’s hard to do those things when the elite are trashing our nation.
Does anyone feel like they have aged since “waking up” because of being so tired from paying attention to the destruction of our United States?
I recommend to all read the Gospel of Thomas then read George Washington’s Farewell Address.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
of course that is why they wrote the bill
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Oh Amerikan P.R.I.N.C.E.S.S. we love you!!!! You have got to be getting paid by someone, to come on here everyday & stir up emotions!?!?!
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
…so this is why the insurance companys have been so silent
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Yup, but the corrupt government that we live under will never let the MSM carry a story like this, I mean really run with it. Because if they did that, you could ask anyone who wrote the bill and who really benefits from it and they’d be able to tell you. Right now though, the smart American public says “My government knows what’s best for me!!”
I HATE living here right now, hate it.
Nance Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 am
saturn311-I’m right there with you pal. My daughter is always saying; “Mom if you hate this country so much, why don’t you move somewhere where you’ll be happy?” I tell her, “Honey, if I had the cash/gold, I would move as far away as I possibly could.” I don’t even recognize this country anymore. It used to be such a wonderful place. Sure, we had problems, but NOTHING compared to what we’re faced with now. I don’t know about anybody else, but I’m not sure I have the stamina to watch how it all plays out.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
Al-Qaeda and Taliban are pawns of the U.S. high ranking psychopats and world scum elite that works for the destabilisation of countrys (PURPOSE: ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT WITH A “ONE WORLD BANK” RUN BY THEM [TO ENSLAVE THE WHOLE WORLD POPULATION AND CARRYING OUT THE EVIL AGENDA ON THEM: ENDGAME]). CIA goes as a “mainstream” terrorist
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/US-funds-terror-groups-to-sow-chaos-in-Iran.html
presstv.ir/detail/98327.htm?sectionid=351020401
presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=109453§ionid=351020101
infowars.com/madsen-taliban-imported-to-conduct-false-flag-terrorism-in-iraq
prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/280507usesalqaeda.htm
prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-are-pawns-of-the-us-military-industrial-complex.html
infowars.com/western-governments-funding-taliban-al-qaeda-to-kill-us-troops-destabilize-countries
blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know
infowars.com/iran-captures-cia-terrorists
infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_us_uses_al_qaeda_to_attack_iran.htm
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html
corbettreport.com/articles/20090623_destabilization.htm
infowars.com/iranian-interior-minister-western-intelligence-behind-riots-and-unrest
infowars.com/former-pakistan-general-us-supports-jundullah-terrorists-in-iran
globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13325
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7942G_x-So
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html
abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3206417
youtube.com/watch?v=_wg3r2YSM9g
Events like 9/11, the London Bombings and the Madrid Bombing were ALL accompanied by Security/Military EXERCISES which paralleled the real events
historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=militaryExercises
historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_guardian
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Nano Thermite found in WTC dust
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ae911truth.org/info/51
russiatoday.com/Politics/2009-07-09/Did_nano-thermite_take_down_the_WTC.html
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
i staunchly support free market healthcare, but i think kucinich is highly under-appreaciated in his attempt to stop eugenacare, regardless of your views on how to reform healthcare.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
very—wait a minute. Hold on. kucinich has co-signed some fucked up education bills and some fucked up medical bills.
Very Radical Libertarian Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
this is about healthcare, not education.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
re-read the post.
Very Radical Libertarian Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
i did, no mention of “education”. and like i said i do not agree with kucinich on healthcare (actually i hardly agree with him at all on economic matters), i was only thanking him for trying to defeat obamacare, even though his system wouldn’t be all that great either.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
very—oh, I see what you’re saying. I just added to what I know he’s done is all. A misunderstanding is all. peace.
Vincent Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
There is no FREE MARKET it’s only a SLAVE MARKET. No one is going to help set up a fair system unless it’s the law of the land. FREE MARKET propaganda is enslaving the world. The economic model will eventually fail because there will never be enough Jobs for everyone who needs one.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Thats all Obamas presidency is nothing but bailouts to business courtesy of the taxpayer and no taxpayer relief for the people.
Think real hard on your next vote people.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
The USA, it’s been one huge Ponzi Scheme.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Did you know that in this bill, illegal immigrants are not required to get health insurance, but every american citizen wii and if you don’t then you will be fined? And to put icing on this cake, the illegals will continue to receive medical help (free of course). This is a cost of about 250 million as of now and rising. And yes you guessed it, us good old american taxpayer will pick up this tab!! Hell, I am wondering how I can change my status from an american citizen to an illegal immigrant!!!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Why do they keep saying bailout instead of rip-off?
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
2WHO DO I SEE TO GET MY BAILOUT MONEY?
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
WHY are the criminals in Congress, and in the health care industry, still scurrying the planet surface, working evil to the detriment of humanity?
There is only a finite number of, “them.”
They all sleep in a bed in a house on a street.
As it has been said by men better than me in times past, “The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.”
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I noticed that they were taken off the page also Gary. bachmann was also on there.
But look what I found.
http://www.youtube.com/user/royalhonordotcom
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I have an urgent message for you, more important than any message you can hear. God is Holy and cannot accept sin(honor thy mother and father…, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor, thou shall not covet..etc…Exodus 20:12-17). Here are some verses that show examples of sin:
“Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Matthew 5:21-22
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:27-28
“It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32
“For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23. Your good deeds cannot cover up your bad deeds.
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12
You could be perfect in all the law and stumble at one point and it is as if you broke all of them:
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” James 4:17
God wrote the law on each man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand before Christ(”Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another” Romans 2:15). The penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. I am warning you about hell because I love you! You are dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE THAT QUENCHES NOT(”…the fire is not quenched” Mark 9:44). It is a horrible and terrible place of everlasting torment that people will go because of their sins.
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24
“In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
But God has provided a way for each to escape the lake of fire. He sent his Son Jesus(God manifest in the flesh-1 Timothy 3:16) who was conceived by a virgin by the Holy Spirit of God,lived a sinless life, and suffered a horrible death/shed blood and rose again 3 days later to take the penalty of YOUR sins so you dont have to pay for them in hell for eternity! He loved you so much which is why he did it! He is the only one to have fufilled the law perfectly(sinless) and paid the price of the entire world’s sins so that man could be saved on the merits of His perfection(see Romans 5:19). All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust in Him to save you as a sinner). You must admit your lost sinful condition to Him/that you’re worthy of hell, and ask Him to save you by placing complete trust in Jesus ALONE for salvation(an example in the Word of someone doing this- “And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.” Luke 18:13).It is not even partly by yourselves that you can be saved, but only by the merits of Jesus Christ!
“For God so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” John 3:16.
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2
“…Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” Revelation 1:5
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
“Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:29-31
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:9-10
No works or anything you do can save you! May God open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of God(the 1611 King James version- NOT the modern versions, they are corrupt) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting. You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Make sure you are saved TODAY! The Bible condemns the rich, the wealthy, and those who take advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! It declares all mankind as sinners(myself included).
I am a Christian, and love you enough to warn you of the dangers of hell. Beware, the Roman catholic church is NOT Christian! The church CANNOT save you but only Christ! Just because someone says they are a Christian does not necessarily mean they are one(remember the crusades in history? Many were murdered in the name of Christianity. These were no Christians at all by their testimony). Please email me to inquire more. I would be glad to help you out in your search for truth!(my email- livingwaters705@hotmail.com)…To those who slander/mock me, I pray for you and love you anyways and hope you will trust Christ before its too late!
I call upon my fellow Christians on here to return hate posts with love and blessings. The Lord commands us to love them:
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew 5:43-45
Salvation is not found in good works, rituals, church, the pope, water baptism, good lives, etc….But ONLY found by faith in Jesus Christ the Savior!
If you need prayer or anything, just let me know! I would be glad to help! I love and care for you, and I have prayed that every person that reads this who do not know the Lord, would one day turn to Christ in faith for salvation for their sins. I beg you to turn to Christ in faith before it is too late! You get ONE chance while living and then it is too late forever:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Hebrews 9:27
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6
“…there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:21-22
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
THE RATS (INSURANCE COMPANIES) WILL TAKE OVER THE CHEESE FACTORY,MARK MY WORDS, I SMELL A RAT,IN THIS CASE A WHOLE BUNCH OF VERMIN, BY THE TIME THEY GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR , WE WILL BE FINISHED OFF BY THEIR EVIL GREED , WHY DOESNT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET TO SEE WHAT IS BEING PUT TOGETHER BY CONGRESS?, BEFORE IT IS VOTED ON BY THE PUPPET PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON GET READY FOR THE CRAP TO HIT THE FAN. I BET IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY, AND WILL KILL THE VICTIMS ( THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) THEY WILL BE DRAINED DRY BY THESE BLOOD SUCKERS. WELCOME TO THE ( NEW WORLD ORDER). CHAOS OUT OF ORDER.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Government bailouts are profitable!!!
I pity the foo who thinks he is getting free health care!!!
Pay your health care penalties and get a free finger from the FED’s.
Everyone now has their opportunity to be screwed. Please wait in line!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
democrats are traitors who need to be arrested for treason. Pelosi and Obama 1st
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 am
My father used to say years ago that Insurance Companies RULE THE WORLD! This was back in the 80’s. Kucinich is right, the insurance companies want Obama’s so-called Health care plan to pass, that way they’ll be rolling in it while the rest of us are barely getting by. I mean, come on, the BIG PHARMACEUTICAL companies own the doctors, “Wall Street” owns Washington, and so do the insurance companies. It’s getting to the point where people are afraid to go to the doctor for fear of ending up with some made up disease so that everybody gets their cut.
Vincent Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
You got that right Nance, good to see someone is awake out there. Take care.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 am
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings
Ben
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 am
The retarded liberals/progressives still don’t get it. Obama never intended to sign a health care bill with a public option included. His sole intention as a big business whore is to give the insurance companies a huge bailout. The individual mandate along with the steep fines will be quite nice for the “evil”insurance companies. But the progressives are just too darn stupid to understand this simple concept: OBAMA IS A WALLSTREET/BIG BUSINESS WHORE. I used to think neocons were the most retarded, knuckle dragging idtios around, but the “progressives” (and I use that term lightly) make the neocons look normal.
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:18 am
I heard about ths alex Jones guy just recently and I have watched through a few of his videos
and people you are all caught up into is agenda. Now is the time to focus on yourself family and
friends beacuse this world is over. They are trying hard to keep it going but its all over. Like all
civilisations rise and fall, this one is falling. Its now time to focus inward and make a relationship
will the create by meditating. Obama is just a symbol to show you that the Gods are coming back
to put things straight. The rising sun symbol teh winged disc symbol is a sign. The king of Orion is
coming back to sit on is throne once again. Then you will truly know who a god is but it wont be a
god that you all may think he is. You all need to read egyptian aztec olmec texts and symbols to
actually know what is going on. If you have a soul your going back home to the sirius star if not u
will be left here when the devil and his angels try and fight the Gods. The 3d world is finished
Your all gonna see some far out stuff going on like star wars, trust me it will happen. Jupiter will
soon be lucifer and a comet is on its way….Wake up and stop being ignorant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMV2iGEgi8c
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
dam it Kucinich stop fucking up my state you fucker , instead go back to fighting the fed you can’t go
wrong with that , hes not bad guy from what herd but he act like a god dam naive stooge
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 am
Livid American’s needed to storm White House on Thursday at 12:00pm. For more info http://www.worldnetdaily.com
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
“The Kucinich amendment would allow individual states an opt-in to such a system. ” Why can we not opt in and out as individuals. If you file you IRS taxes they will fine you so why file your taxes anymore? You will go to jail anyway.