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Last Minute Rulemaking by Bush USDA Threatens Organic Farmers
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CommonDreams
December 4, 2008
CORNUCOPIA, Wisconsin – December 3 – Many media outlets, from the New York Times to the blogosphere, have tracked what has been dubbed the “corporate takeover” of organic farming. One of the hottest controversies in this rapidly growing $20 billion industry has been giant factory farms milking thousands of cows each in feedlots and masquerading as organic. Some of these industrial dairies are controlled by the nation’s largest agribusinesses.
Since the organic community first appealed to the USDA for better clarification and enforcement of regulations requiring organic dairy producers to graze their cattle, nearly 9 years ago, the number of giant industrial dairy operations, with as many as 10,000 cows, has grown from two to approximately 15. After years of delay, the USDA has finally responded with a new proposed rule that they said would crack down on abuses.
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“The birds have come home to roost,” said Mark Kastel, Senior Farm Policy Analyst for The Cornucopia Institute. The Wisconsin-based farm policy research group estimates there are 35,000 to 45,000 cows on giant CAFOs (concentrated animal feeding operations) operating in the United States producing as much as 40% of the nation’s organic milk supply.
“These CAFOs are producing so much milk that they have depressed pricing and profit margins for organic family farmers, and now some are being forced out of business by this distressing situation,” Kastel said. “Organics was supposed to be the antidote to family farmers being forced off the land.”
The Cornucopia Institute has filed formal legal complaints with the USDA aimed at compelling the agency to enforce organic livestock and management rules. These actions have led to the shut down or penalizing of some of what they call “organic scofflaws.” But many in the industry criticized the agency for failing to fully investigate many other alleged violations on giant farms, including several that supply milk to the nation’s largest dairy processor, Dallas-based Dean Foods.
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December 4th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
There ought to be an independent, trustworthy organisation that certifies farms as organic…. One that is incorruptible…. We have to remove Bush’s foxes from our hen house.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
We’ve been guffaw-ing for years when we saw a TV commercial
for a “Wholesome Organic” farm or product, (back when we still
watched TV).
Truth is instead of those idyllic scenes of green farms, little antique
trucks carrying their products to market and grandma feeding
kids in her own kitchen, it’s actually a huge dirty industrial factory
where the food items are packed on assembly lines.
If you’ve ever seen one of these operations close-up it’s enough
to make you swear off eating for good.
Huge piles of manure mere inches from the milking area, cattle
crowded in pens caked with feces bawling in misery and the
whole area thick with millions of flies. Dairy cows are shoved
through narrow gates while mechanical milkers empty them out.
Of course they are fed a noxious gruel of sawdust, a bit of grain
and untold chemicals and antibiotics that allow the cows to live
long enough for the corporation to make a profit.
All this without a single care about health or cleanliness. But
they can still label that mess “organic”. D*mned liars!
December 4th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
lol today EU assigned a law which allows MONSANTO to grow here legally in germany f.e. WE ARE FUCKED !
soon farmes will pay for mutated crops due to monsanto fields next to it …
i hope every farmer here has a gun, give the kaiser what the kaiser´s is ! LOL
December 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
round up ready 2 ^^ soj
December 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
oh farking no
December 4th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
lets also look at the negatives of pasturizing milk
December 4th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
The Organic standards have been watered down in recent times, this will most likely continue. For comsumers to rely on a stamp to ensure that produce is “Healthy” is always going to be a flawed point of view. Look to local organic or biodynamic farmers look for local organic markets, that wayyou can often meet the producers/farmers. Corporate farming is a farking joke. the bigger they are the worst the the stench. I have had the wonderful experience of numerous corpoate farms (didnt last long). would say they are money makers not farmers, there is no concern, that is NO concern for food standards, unless beaten with a legally big stick. Money and money and money is the only concern, not food not health not environment. And even organic farmers can be poor quailty. Organic or not quality is important (not just asthetics), Personally i would prefer local produce that is free from chemicals. organic agriculture is the same as conventional in man cases a simple replace this with that attitude which has many of its own issues. grow local eat local. so who still has a veggie patch in the backyard???? not that hard people.
pacohort@gmail.com
December 4th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
we really need to get back to working with each other. neighbor with neighbor. go out buy a chicken. you will be surprised how many eggs one produces.
why wont GW leave quietly
http://www.aniboom.com/video/2.....ll-speech/
December 4th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
here is a great rule for buying organic food:
If its produced by a publicly traded food company is likely not very organic.
If its produced by a small buisness or farm and sounds like its run by ex-hippies its likely worth the extra money.
Organic food from Vermont, Washington, and Oregon is more likley to be pure than from other states because of state laws and the above “hippy factor”.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Solution – Have your own garden, go to the farmers market, or join a CSA. Show the USDA and DoA we have the power to control the food supply. I would say growing your own veggies in a 10′x10′ is the best thing you can do. If you don’t have a local supply of meat, forgo it. Grow beans.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
ah, once again another step to initiate codex alimentarius.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1pKlnhvg0
December 4th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Know your food before feeding it to your kids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5OxdIq5DY
December 4th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5OxdIq5DY
December 4th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Humans do not need dairy products, as a person can get calcium and vitamin d from other sources. Hell, your skin MAKES it when the sun hits it. Calcium is a high nutrient in vegetables, such as beans, seaweeds, quinoa, broccoli, and many, many other greens. Even then, vitamin deficiencies aren’t as bad as the government makes them out to be. I’m not saying it’s okay to purposely
Don’t get me wrong, I like cheese and milk just as much as the next person. But if you cannot get it from a local source, BOYCOTT.
December 4th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I don’t know anyone who can afford to buy organic food on a regular basis anyway. I guess I’ll just continue eating the genetically mutated, toxic goop I always have.
December 4th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
If you aren’t eating organic…your shortening your own life…and the life of your child!
At the end of the day…”you”…are slowly killing your child. You might as well be feeding your child regular “daily doses” of strychnine!!!
There’s no excusing your culpability…all the pitiful excuses in the world just won’t cut it!!!
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Are you slowly killing…and ultimately “murdering” your child???
If your slowly killing yourself through blind ignorance…stiff shit…hurry up and die…fucker!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Would you like some organic fries with that?.
Your change will be here next month sir.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I agree with number 18. My wife initially protested about how expensive organic is, but I asked her one question. Which is more expensive, sickness and death or organic food.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I agree,be a rebel,grow something to eat!!! USDA is a criminal organization once called the peoples department; No more, it is now owned and run by the likes of Monsanto Cargill ADM Digital Angel…………..!
I have been locked in a fight with USDA for several years over their NAIS or National Animal ID System,#1 requires the owner of even one chicken to register his “premises” with USDA #2 Requires the tagging/Chipping of all animals #3 Requires the owner to report any and all events(birth/death ect) to the govt with in 48 hrs or face fine and imprisonment,Wild eh??
The kicker is its not USDA that came up with this it is a coalition of corporations from Monsanto to the tag/chip makers called National Institute for animal Ag in Bowling Green KY and to make matters worse they have exempted all the mega farms from most of the regs,only the small farmers/homesteaders and hobby animal keepers have to comply(and it will bankrupt them)
of course USDA and their lackeys say its all VOLUNTARY,…BS.. it is not, it is manditory as USDA is paying the states to impliment this(and are now requiring Vetinarians and others to assign a number if a client has none),then they will take over the program,this is serious folks and whats more there is talk through PA Farms a Penn State program, to require all veggie growers to do the same sort of thing,
You can all see where this is going, I have been an independent farmer/homesteader all my life almost 50 years, and I have never seen anything as corrupt and backhanded as this is,of course it allows them to know where ALL the food is,tie this into stopping farmers from saving seeds and the govt controlling the water,air,ground and all vitamins ect and we are not free to even eat forget living, I for one will not comply but I would also like to take this time to encourage you all to speak out to your reps and to people you know about NAIS and how bad this is,this affects anyone who eats!
Also I encourage all of you to support local small growers as well as learning how to grow something for your selves,this skill used to be common,but I find not alot of people know the basics of farming anymore,you have to know how to feed yourselves, otherwise the day may come when you starve,as I say all the time you can raise alot in a box in a highrise if you have the knowhow and learning is the way to get that,so rebel and raise something good to eat!
December 4th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Well Edjoy, I need to point out another dilemma about your chemtrail comment, the fact is, we do need to stock up on and learn the ways of agriculture as Reb points out…and myself and my congregation are, but the prob with growing something right now out in the open and possibly in the future is THAT, the scumbags are pouring alum. particulates, mold agents , radioactive barium and that fiberous material etc., into our skies which lands on OUR ground which I believe effects what grows, whether it be food plants or medicinal plants.
Realisticaly, the aerosol spraying must be halted, those pilots,( if there are any,) must be identified, exposed and held accountable or nothing we grow will be of any true value.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
this article makes me sick. my heart hurts. i am a small farmer and i am tired of corporatism. i did not know that there was a farm with 35,000 cattle producing 40% of the organic milk. i am ready for a war. as of right now commodities have plummeted and some farmers are on the verge of losing money this year.
where are the CFAO’s? we should find out where they are and bust down the fence. then, burn the whole farm to the ground.
i am ready for a war. i will settle for nothing less…
December 4th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Shit be a real rebel, and grow something organic to smoke. Hemp will Save the Republic, but could give us the worst case of munchies in American history, hello, can you say service industry. You want a stimulus package, you got to roll one up yourself. It would make the world go round, or in the least make everyone really stoned, or more than you already are…. Kill the Illuminati with a combination of smoke inhalation and crashing their Corporate Structure in less than two weeks, with a nationwide stoner boycott. The only giants left standing would be Pizza Hut, Dominos, and maybe Subway if your a pussy. Potheads rise up, but not too fast, you’ll get a head rush. Dry it up!
December 4th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Storm Washington people…for christ sake…before it’s too late…it’s no good getting your arses into gear when it’s too fucking late!
Children have their future in your hands…step up to the plate…and wake up to yourselves!
Procrastinators…yes you…you know who you are!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
25, I think you are one of the only idiots who still smoke retadr weed here in the Patriot community, hard to get highly motivated while you are lethargic, YOU may be the exeption to the rule, I know a few, but those who can overcome the effects and still be usefull are astronmically low.
Personally, I think that crap should be legal, as it is not the fedgovs business to illegalize it, especially while they are pumping in tons of the white garbage from Afganistan, Columbia and Bosnia,(KLA) but there is no future in those in the second rev. being stoned, it kills the higher senses that are crucial to survival and wits.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Oh No…..RED YAWN IS BACK.
Watch out for flashes of extreme wisdom and humor. or isdom and umor.
How’s your revolution going Yawn ?
Are you still sitting around with one hand down your pants and the other on the mouse ?
December 4th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
I really hate all these zionist ads around this site and playing every 10 min at the radio show.
Alex Jones is great, but I think he is amputated with these things. Everyone is addicted to profit.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
A small boy was lost at a large shopping mall.
He approached a uniformed policeman and said, ‘I’ve lost my grandpa!’
The cop asked, ‘What’s he like?’
The little boy hesitated for a moment and then replied,
‘Johnnie Walker Black Label Whiskey and Women with big tits.’
December 4th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
#30
Nice one Aussie.
And then he was shot up by Muslim extremists right ?
Kids are stupid and they deserve to die.
If he hadnt lost his grandpa in the first place he wouldnt have been shot.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Hmm, elvis impersonator is still mad cause I beat his non reasoning a while back, I was never gone moron, and for the record, I state facts, most everything I say I can source and often do and none of you have ever been able to correctly rebut my points, while you just babble….I correctly articulated how nations all over the earth, including the one you are from have commited by far more atrocities than America, all througout history, you just profer irrelevant accusations.
Get lost.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Not surprising since the powers that be goal is to eliminate 90% of the population. Go to youtube and type in “the world according to monsanto”
December 4th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
#32 Red Dawn
The more you try to come across as being all knowing and articulate…just ends up having the opposite effect…ya’ deluded, religiously “brainwashed” non free thinking half wit!
Piss off…ya’ sick fuck!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Yes # 25
Roll it up, smoke it up, sharpen your knives, lock and load and prepare for battle…
December 4th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Quit the infighting and fight The New World Order. All of you are right in a way anyway. Of course we should all eat Organic food. If we can’t afford to you really shouldn’t be telling us to die, you need all the help you can get. Alex Jones does have some”crude” movies but the facts are the facts in those films, it’s really not about cinematography, it’s about INFO. Of Course more nations have committed more atrocities than America ost of them have been around alot longer too. it’s not about countries committing atrocities, it’s about WHO bankrolled those atrocities anyway. This isn’t about “America” being evil at all it’s about the globalists having hijacked and bankrolled a bunch of countries and now they are turning up the heat here in the USA too.
we’re all on the same side, QUIT BICKERING, seriously. Go wake somebody up!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Abraham Lincoln (Satan)committed more atrocities against the south than the rest of the world has committed since time began……………Grayrider
December 4th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
nice, smooth move treating each other like trash. Your like the gangs, terrorists, & racisist monsters…You just beat each other up. Heck, NWO doesn’t even have to do anything. Why don’t you really piss the nwo off & help each other out. Pretty soon it won’t be about religious or ideological belief systems. You’ll be praying to the gods of bread & water.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:07 am
#38 cc
An ideal world would be great wouldn’t it…i guess it’s nice to dream once in a while!
If your ideals were reality…there’d be no Globalist threat!
Try engaging your brain…before you post!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:08 am
100% organic Barackwerst anyone?
December 5th, 2008 at 12:50 am
They have been destroying the individual farmer since the 1930’s. After the depression they started to pay the farmer to stop growing, and WE the government will produce the crops with DDT, and other chemicals that kill the masses. Eat up! Same song, new political jitterbug!
December 5th, 2008 at 2:21 am
I think the NWO wants people to become vegetarians or even vegans. I mean just think it out. The government wants to ban organic meats, so what better way to get people to go vegetarian than for the NWO to take control of the meat supply and deliberately taint it with genetically-modified animals and growth hormones then reveal the dangers of the contaminated meat supply and offer the sheeple the “solution” of vegetarianism/veganism and then poison the sheeple all over again with unfermented soy and use the foundation-funded animal “rights” groups to smear anti-soy activists as “meat/dairy industry shills” and “whackjob conspiracy kooks”? If Amerika can carry out a false flag terrorist attack using airplanes, they sure as hell can carry out a false-flag terrorist attack on its own citizens using food. This is why I say rising obesity levels and rising disease occurences are a government-orchestrated terrorist attack against the citizens.
Obesity is the Food Nazis’ 9/11.
December 5th, 2008 at 2:29 am
Oh come on RED YAWN.
You dont think that because youve got an online thesaurus that you can fool anyone.
You’re American…….
Lets face it mate. You’re all a bunch of pompus, big mouthed, apathetic, know it alls.
You go to any country on this planet and you can hear an American tourist 50 metres away.
Heres a joke I just made up…….Q. What do you call an obnoxious american ?
A. Common,……. they are all obnoxious.
Im sorry Ive missed your posts over the last few days. You’re my favourite American at the moment.
Now enough Jibber Jabber. Havent you got a civil war to prepare for ?
December 5th, 2008 at 3:17 am
#43 Elvis
Americans are no different…to people from many other countries throughout the world!
There’s the Good.
There’s the Bad.
There’s the Ugly.
To put all Americans under the one banner…as you described them…is pathetic to say the least!
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P.S Elvis…just a tip…aquiring the other half of your brain wouldn’t go astray!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 6:08 am
the biggest problem with farming these days are DISCOUNTS. what i mean is this: you haul a load of wheat to the elevator and they deduct bushels from your load for whatever reason they want. if a farmer gets paid for what he produces things wouldn’t be so bad. the standards are simply insane these days.
December 5th, 2008 at 6:54 am
He who defile3s Elvis’s good name says:
“You dont think that because youve got an online thesaurus that you can fool anyone.”
What the crap is that supposed to mean?
That is a non rebuttal to the fact I presented the facts regarding the multimillions murdered by their own governments on YOUR side of the globe, genocides by your governmnets while you come here and badmouth us in light of the fact the America government has recently gone rogue and has been commandeered by foreign governments, that is globalist eurotrash and communists et al..,
Consisder this ya’ll, clinton murdered hundreds, bush murdered thousands….what do you recon obama is slated to do?
You are right about one thing, I do have a revolution to prepare for, if you were smart, you’d do same in your theator of ops. They just threatened the central gulf coast.
December 5th, 2008 at 7:05 am
I bought a can of Amys Organic Soup for $3.50 yesterday at Krogers … month and a half ago same can of soup was $2.00
December 5th, 2008 at 7:19 am
P.S. Elvis, you are dogging me ostensibly for my word useage etc., well, that is sorry, the problem we have today is that our young, we are being dumbed down, that as an effort to control and destroy us.
We need to strive for a second renaissance, we need to return to the days when people self educated, such as Thomas Jefferson, we have to propogate intelligence to our children, to our young, to rightly judge, that is, to teach the fatherless to combat the ignorance that our collective enemies are using against us. Knowledge IS power and it is the lack of knowledge and the pursuit of it and veritas,(truth) that is the instrument of our collective destruction.
So…I am NOT sorry, I will not be dumbed down and I will not let my children, especially in the area of history, the most important topic to restore from the revisionist cancer that david rockerfeller, marx and darwin have, amoungst others, inspired and instituted.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:22 am
why are there so many energy drinks and the like available today, and why do so many use them? i myself drink alot of coffee but with lil effect. why are so many people bogged down with the sleepys’? i know the shit in the food and water, but what specifically? the public water supply where i live only has what they say is natural flouride in it. we test our water 4 times a year, use a filtering system, etc so what is it specifically?
December 5th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Chemtrails dude.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Before Katrina, I used to work 8-10 hour days then go teach Martial arts for 3 hours no sweat, now, I can’t breath and have little energy.
While I attribute most of this to the FEMA trailer, I am omore convinced that..besides the trash they are dumping on us via the aerosol spraying/exotic weapons, that they used a nuke in the gulf to invite a Tsunami upon us, note, here in Biloxi, a casino was on TOP of a hotel.
Afterwards, along hwy 90 that is on the beach, what trees remained all died, they have only recently replaced them.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Why are they concentrating on milk? So they can poison us with melamine? Talk about revelation. The folks who have no idea that this shit is going on.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am
We have been using Organic Valley for quite a while, since we stopped using products with vitimin D added, I am certain it is trully organic, of course, china mart here on the coast does not sell it.
Piggly Wiggly has it, ask for it at your local store, demand true Organic or swear off it and make sure your supplier knows it.
December 5th, 2008 at 10:24 am
SWAT raids innocent family in Ohio for growing their own food. SWAT stole this family’s entire stock of survival food and supplies. Are YOU next?
http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/
December 5th, 2008 at 10:32 am
You are being robbed, lied to, poisoned, and abused.
You love it.
December 5th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Went there 54, didn’t see the swat story, interesting site though, I have long been interested in RV, I am a big fan of Maj. Ed Dames.
December 5th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Not only are they making it hard on organic dairy farmers as described in this article, the EPA is also working on regs that will tax livestock farms for their CO2 that is released in the form of belches and farts.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200....._cow_tax_2
December 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
People, turn back to God and pray for our country, our small farms, and pray for God to eliminate corporation farms, those evil corporation farms are abusing the farm animals, and they are causing the people to die a slow death with hormones and genetically engineered foods. Let us all get down on our knees and ask God’s forgiveness and live according to the ten commandements before it is too late. God is our only hope!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
#43 Elvis wrote:
“Oh come on RED YAWN.
You dont think that because youve got an online thesaurus that you can fool anyone.”
This accusation can only be the product of stupidity. First of all, it implies that there is something wrong with using a thesaurus, which begs the question, if the word was used properly how is its source even relevant? Elvis makes no attempt whatsoever to correct Red Dawn’s allegedly improper word usage, but simply spews out this baseless accusation in what is quite transparently an ill-conceived smear.
It’s interesting that people of diminished mental ability like Elvis feel the need to rage against others for using basic words that should really be part of any literate English speaker’s vocabulary. I would be curious to know what words specifically Elvis believes were found in a thesaurus. I can guarantee it is more a reflection of Elvis’ piss poor (won’t find that in a thesaurus) vocabulary and thus a reliable indicator of overwhelming ignorance or stupidity than anything else.
People like Elvis shouldn’t attack and smear others for their inability/unwillingness to pick up a fucking book.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Also, it should be noted, I disagree with basically everything Red Dawn has to say. Vehemently. In fact, if it’s the same Red Dawn that has been around for a while, there really is no adjective strong enough to describe his/her idiocy. However, the “dur u used e-tyranosaurus 2 find ur fancy pantsy verbiage dur dur” accusation is beyond retarded.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
#43 Elvis wrote:
“Oh come on RED YAWN.
You dont think that because youve got an online thesaurus that you can fool anyone.”
This accusation can only be the product of stupidity. First of all, it implies that there is something wrong with using a thesaurus, which begs the question, if the word was used properly how is its source even relevant? Elvis makes no attempt whatsoever to correct Red Dawn’s allegedly improper word usage, but simply spews out this baseless accusation in what is quite transparently an ill-conceived smear.
It’s interesting that people of diminished mental ability like Elvis feel the need to rage against others for using basic words that should really be part of any literate English speaker’s vocabulary. I would be curious to know what words specifically Elvis believes were found in a thesaurus. I can guarantee it is more a reflection of Elvis’ piss poor (won’t find that in a thesaurus) vocabulary and thus a reliable indicator of overwhelming ignorance or stupidity than anything else.
People like Elvis shouldn’t attack and smear others for their inability/unwillingness to pick up a fucking book. Red Dawn may be a retard, but that only makes it even worse that Elvis would think to accuse him of using a thesaurus. Elvis must be some kind of super special retard.
December 6th, 2008 at 4:58 am
Shouldn’t all food be organic? Do we really need pesticides and preservatives in our food? Of course not. And why is it that foods produced without the added cost of buying these chemical additives have a higher price. Is so that the poor can never afford to eat healthy? Why has good health become a privilige for the wealthy????
http://www.myspace.com/repealfederalreserveact
December 6th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Most “organic” food is nottotally “organic”.. It is virtually impossible to grow food that meet true “organic” requirements.
December 6th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Long ago in America the corporate borg trash bribed the anglo mafia (government) 2 allow them 2 lie & call food ‘organic’ if it is at least 15% organic. The word has no meaning in food labeling @ grocery stores. It is like calling the murder of foreigners & theft of their nations & resources ‘freedom & democracy’. It’s a scam. Ignore the word ‘organic’ on labels. It is a lie (in USA)
December 6th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
They are eliminating the ability for people to fight over money. Now they are eliminating the food so when THE CATASTROPHY COMES they can get everyone to fight over food and come up the middle with THEIR FINAL SOLUTION!!!
For all you 12/21/2012 types there is no certainty as to what Christ’s exact birthdate was the Roman calendar could be out by as much as 4 to 7 years so who knows when the big dinner date with Jesus will happen?
December 7th, 2008 at 7:15 am
Thats not true, totally organic food is simply plants or animals fed with natural dead or decayed material which inturn must come from “clean sources”.
The only problem is that if all food was produced this way it could only support 2 or 3 billion humans on this planet. the other 4 billion are kept alive by chemical, physical and genetic manipulation of the planet. this is not sustainalble on the long run, 1 billion are already starving, and what do you think will happen when the seas are fished out?? or the rainforrests used up?? at least another 1 to 1.5 billion people depend on fish for their lives. add that ontop of all the political and social issues CONGRATULATIONS> weve created a rosy future for our kids…
December 7th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
AUSSIE!!! YOU’RE THE ONE THAT IS BRAINWASHED!!! BY THE NWO!!!
ASK YOURSELF WHO REALLY OWNS THIS PLANET??? THE BANKERS??? THE ELITIST GLOBAL CORPORATION CEO’S??? THOSE WHO HAVE POWER & ENOUGH MONEY TO PLAY IN THE GOVERNMENT GAME OF LIFE???
GOD OWNS THIS PLANET!!! NOT PEOPLE!!! HE’S THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL HAVE TO COME AND SET THINGS STRAIGHT!!! PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET ALONG & SHARE THIS PLANET EVER!!! BECAUSE OF GREED & POWER & THE LOVE OF MONEY BEING THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!! SOME RICH PEOPLE FEEL INCLINED TO LIVE A LUXURIOUS LIFE WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE ARE JUST THE SLAVE SERVANTS & COTTON PICKERS IN THEIR YACHTS & MANSIONS!!!
EVOLUTION IS A RELIGION!!! IT’S PROBABLY YOURS…
FROG TURNS INTO A PERSON QUICKLY: FAIRY TALE
FROG TURNS INTO A PERSON OVER ZILLIONS & ZILLIONS OF YEARS: EVOLUTION
YEAH THAT’S LOGICAL!!!
http://www.myspace.com/freehovind http://wyattarchaeology.com/noah.htm
http://www.fool4given.com/books/301proofs.pdf http://www.discovery.org/artic.....Fakest.pdf http://www.100abortionpictures.com
December 7th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Only one truth…you are a MORON! This world belongs to Satan
Remember the story of Jesus getting tempted….Satan tempted him with the world. He said Jesus can share it with him if he bow at his feet.
Until Jesus comes back this world is still in Satan hands…and his banking minions. Do you know anything about the Occult? Or Masonry? My God dude…how retarded are you????
The Elite dabble with this shit all the time, and are getting ready for the anti Christ and preparing the world for him…..
If you think this is Gods work, you have alot to learn.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Pissed off Youth: You wrote, “This world belongs to Satan.” I refer you to God’s Word:
Psa 24:1 The earth is the LORD’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
A lot of “green” rhetoric is really brainwashing to implement totalitarianism controls over resources and food. The USDA is part of that scam.
http://www.brainwashington.inf.....&mnu=8
December 8th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Too bad he hasn’t (as yet) had a fatal fall from his bicycle. Is anybody taking bets on how long he’ll live after he leaves office? A combination junkie and juicehead tends to be all mouth and no brain, so I’d guess his puppet masters would be very relieved if W. suffered a sudden fatal heart attack or something sometime in January – - – 8 years too late, of course.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
The Green Charter is headed by David Rockefeller. Need I say more?
December 8th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
The Green Charter is headed by Steven Rockefeller. Need I say more?
December 9th, 2008 at 1:25 am
Buy DIRECTLY from organic farmers whenever you can, right at the farm preferably. Obviously if people don’t keep an eye on things, they’re going to get flim-flammed (as usual).
December 9th, 2008 at 6:50 am
I’ll always buy organic milk or if available, meat even if they banned it, I’d find me a farmer. Hope america’s organic farmers do not end up like south african farms half farm-half military compound, however it looks like this is the path we’ll have to take.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but God TV ch.365 on directv is playing Riddles in Stone a program about the secret societies, occult symbols, etc in our nation. They also are talking about alot of the same stuff Alex Jones speaks of. People are waking up in droves! If you know any religous types that might not lesten to Alex yet, these programs may be just what they need to see.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
buy raw milk from local farmers, don’t buy from farms you don’t know or hugely enormous farms, because this means they are not organic, The organic board does not allow enormous farms were cows are overcrowded, and do not have grazing room and are Genetic engineered cows, are fed Genetically modified foods, antibiotics, drugs, hormones, and other chemical soups to alter their natural bodies. Buy from local farmers, support your local farmers. Check with thehttp://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/, for more news on food scams, and non-organic companies falsely using the organic logos. Also remember that there is no such thing as organic fish, a new scams that can be seen in supermarkets, and fish markets. Fish that are farmed are raised on antibiotics, drugs, and inferior feed. They are not natural fish but Genetically engineered by man, nothing compared to a wild fish. The organic farmers do not farm fish it is against everything that stands for organic. Check out http://www.mercola.com, search for GE fish, and the diseases they carry, the danger to wild fish, and aquatic life. Farmed fish is NOT ORGANIC. Wild fish is wild, not kept in cages and not raised by man. Farmed fisheries use the latest methods to grow fish that the factory farms of today use, drugs, drugs, and more drugs, confinement , unnatural feed, altered genes and pose a danger to humans. Do you want a piece farmed fish on your plate for dinner? Avoid it, know were the fish comes from, many supermarkets are hiding or not labeling the origin of the fish-because they come from fish farms. Talk to the owners of the supermarkets, about what they claim to be organic, and about their fish.
December 10th, 2008 at 12:20 am
“i myself drink alot of coffee but with lil effect. why are so many people bogged down with the sleepys’?”
Probably because the energy drinks are LOADED with HFCS and obscene amounts of caffeine.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:19 am
depressing milk prices!!!!??????? milk here cost 5.00 per gallon what depressed milk prices & where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 21st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
How about dont drink milk PERIOD! what other species of animal drinks the lactated milk of another species of animal? only humans..and frankly its disgusting! there are alternatives such as almond milk, soy milk, coconut milk…the list goes on