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Lieberman Sends Letter to Google, Demands YouTube Censorship
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
May 20, 2008
Joe Lieberman, senator and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee chairman, wants to censor what you watch on Google and YouTube. Lieberman has sent a letter to Eric Schmidt, Google CEO, accusing the corporation of allowing “offensive material” on its site, namely “videos produced by al-Qaeda and other Islamist terrorist groups.” Joe wants these taken down immediately and demands Google “prevent them from reappearing.” No word if Schmidt has responded, but a letter sent by a bigwig commissar such as Lieberman is nothing to take lightly. Schmidt and his corporate lawyers have likely confabbed.
“Today, Islamist terrorist organizations rely extensively on the Internet to attract supporters and advance their cause. The framework for much of this Internet campaign is described in a bipartisan staff report released last week by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, which I am privileged to chair, titled Violent Islamist Extremism, the Internet, and the Homegrown Terrorist Threat,” writes Lieberman. “The report explains, in part, how al-Qaeda created and manages a multi-tiered online media operation that produces content intended to enlist followers in countries all over the world, including the United States. Central to this media campaign is the branding of content with an icon or logo to guarantee authenticity that the content was produced by al-Qaeda or allied organizations like al-Qaeda in Iraq, Ansar al-Islam (a.k.a Ansar al-Sunnah) or al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb.”
Or how about an “allied organization” such as the CIA, military intelligence or one of its cutouts? “An expert computer analyst has presented evidence that so-called ‘Al-Qaeda’ tapes are routinely digitally doctored and has also unwittingly exposed an astounding detail that clearly indicates a Pentagon affiliated organization in the U.S. is directly responsible for releasing the videos,” Paul Joseph Watson wrote last August. Neal Krawetz, a researcher and computer security consultant, examined the image quantization table of a 2006 Ayman al-Zawahiri tape and made a fascinating discovery — al-Qaeda’s As-Sahab logo (supposedly the media arm of al-Qaeda) was placed on the tape at the same time as the IntelCenter logo. As it turns out, IntelCenter, notorious for releasing al-Qaeda videos, is run by Ben Venzke, former director of intelligence at a company called iDefense, a Verisign company. Jim Melnick, a senior military psy-op intelligence officer who worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld, is billed as iDefense’s director of threat intelligence. In short, there is a distinct possibility the al-Qaeda videos mentioned by Lieberman are fake.
“Searches on YouTube return dozens of videos branded with an icon or logo identifying the videos as the work of one of these Islamist terrorist organizations,” Lieberman continues. “A great majority of these videos document horrific attacks on American soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan. Others provide weapons training, speeches by al-Qaeda leadership, and general material intended to radicalize potential recruits,” that is to say patsies and useful idiots, easy marks for “the process of radicalization,” basically a Goldstein process. Emmanuel Goldstein is a character from Orwell’s dystopian novel, 1984, a terrorist created by Big Brother’s party, the subject of two minute hate sessions. Like Winston Smith’s fictional character, Comrade Ogilvy, Goldstein does not actually exist. “Comrade Ogilvy, who had never existed in the present, now existed in the past, and when once the act of forgery was forgotten, he would exist just as authentically, and upon the same evidence, as Charlemagne or Julius Caesar,” writes Orwell.
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Lieberman, speaking for the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, wants Google to “immediately remove content produced by Islamist terrorist organizations from YouTube. This should be a straightforward task since so many of the Islamist terrorist organizations brand their material with logos or icons identifying their provenance. In addition, please explain what changes Google plans to make to the YouTube community guidelines to address violent extremist material and how Google plans to enforce those guidelines to prevent the content from reappearing.”
Joe is simply preparing the way for the introduction of the so-called “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007,” passed in the House by a 404-6 margin and now awaiting action in the Senate. “If passed in the Senate and signed into law by George W. Bush, the act would establish a ten-member National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism, to study and propose legislation to address the threat of possible ‘radicalization’ of people legally residing in the US,” writes Matt Renner. “The commission would have very broad powers. It could investigate anyone. It would create a public perception that whoever is being investigated by the Commission must be involved in subversive or illegal activities. It would give the appearance that whoever they are investigating is potentially a traitor or disloyal or a terrorist, even if all they were doing was advocating lawful views,” Renner quotes Odette Wilkens, executive director of the Equal Justice Alliance, a constitutional watchdog group. Rep. Jane Harman, who sponsored the bill in the House, has said the Commission would not only investigate al-Qaeda inspired terrorists, but “gangs” too, as we all know street gangs are basically terrorists at heart.
It is no mistake a House Committee on Homeland Security lumped terrorists and 9/11 truth activists together last November. During a presentation held before Jane Harman and the committee, Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center — and his colleagues from the RAND corporation — made a point of including two 9/11 truth websites as evidence of “homegrown terrorism,” as 9/11 truth research and websites are now to be considered “incubators for hate,” as Weitzman would have it, because, of course, questioning the official orthodoxy is always considered hateful (see AE911Truth Response to Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center). Add to this a concerted effort on the part of the corporate media to demonize 9/11 truth, viz., Glenn Beck comparing truth activists to Timothy McVeigh and Geraldo Rivera stating his belief the large firecracker set off on the doorstep of a military recruiting center in Times Square was the work of “‘9/11 was an inside job’ kind of guys,’” who Rivera compared to “eco terrorists.”
In fact, Weitzman and crew made a direct link between jihadist terrorism and 9/11 truth “extremists”:
Some of these are conspiracy theories that present a closed view of the world, such as blaming 9/11 as an “outside job”(?) or blaming outside groups such as the U.S. government, or er the Jews etc, some of these are pro-Iraqi insurgency videos, some of them are media portals that people can enter into, ones that you saw earlier with the flags, the U.S. flags show that they were based on U.S. servers… (see Steve Watson & Paul Watson, House Subcommittee Presentation Equates 9/11 Truth With Terrorism.)
Joe Lieberman’s letter to Eric Schmidt and Google concentrates exclusively on “videos produced by al-Qaeda and other Islamist terrorist groups,” never mind questions about the authenticity of these videos, but as the presentation of Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center held before Harman’s committee reveals, so-called jihadist terrorists are not the only target of this proposed scrubbing — let’s call it what it is, censorship — of the internet. Beck, Morning Joe, Rivera, et al, have provided the required propaganda equating 9/11 truth with terrorism and as we have seen, most recently at the Louisville Exposition Center, it is now apparently acceptable for cops and private security goons to attack truth activists, same as they might attack Timothy McVeigh, had they the chance.
But then, like fake al-Qaeda videos passed off as the real McCoy, it appears McVeigh was directed by a high-level FBI agent, according to Terry Nichols, who was long ago gagged by John Ashcroft. In a 19-page declaration filed in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City early last year, Nichols said “that the whole bombing plot [of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City] was an FBI operation and that McVeigh let slip during a bout of anger that he was taking instruction from former FBI official Larry Potts,” according to the Desert Morning News.
As usual, things are not exactly the way the government tells us they are.
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Editor’s Note: Google has refused to honor Lieberman’s “request” (or intimidation, take your pick). “While we respect and understand his views, YouTube encourages free speech and defends everyone’s right to express unpopular points of view,” the company said in a statement. “We believe that YouTube is a richer and more relevant platform for users precisely because it hosts a diverse range of views, and rather than stifle debate, we allow our users to view all acceptable content and make up their own minds.”
John Morris, senior counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology, said Lieberman’s letter was a practical impossibility and having sites such as YouTube pre-screen content would radically change how the Internet is used.
But then that’s the point, no?
Obviously, Google and Morris are with al-Qaeda.
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May 20th, 2008 at 5:37 am
Those Adam Pearlman videos are offensive
May 20th, 2008 at 5:40 am
Just a warning to all the real truthers out there, the illuminati shills have taken over the comment section, this is a cyber war, they wind you all up with carefully thought out comments that divert your attention from the message, and send you down a spiral of endless arguments,name calling and hatred. WAKE UP! DONT YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING?
The trick is to ignore them.
May 20th, 2008 at 5:45 am
I like seeing both sides of the story. On youtube and google video I get to see how the different groups try to put their own spin on things. Sure it’s propaganda, but I can disseminate the truth from all the lies. Just look at Bill O’Reilly on the “Spin Zone”, or is that the “The no spin zone”. Seems like propaganda to me. How about you send Joe Lieberman up here to Canada, will ship him to Lebanon for you. Free of charge.
May 20th, 2008 at 5:51 am
#2, I couldn’t agree more! Where do they find the time to be responding so frequently to so many different articles? And meaningless stuff as well.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:02 am
Where will it all end? If they ban AlCIAduh videos then whats next? Anyone can make a video and put it online then say sensor it. This is a slippery slope.
I don’t think these people know what they are dealing with when they start messing with Americans internet. I mean Americans won’t riot or march for 911 or all the false flag terrorist attacks performed by the SCUm Gov’t.
But if you take their internet WATCH OUT. I mean it. You Polliticians in Washington better watch out and that goes for you JOE. Better think twice about messing with the internet. JOE keep your SCUM hands off.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:08 am
HEY LIEBERMAN,WORRY ABOUT GASOLINE PRICES, NOT THE AL CIA DA. THE PRICES ARE AS OUTRAGEOUS AS YOUR LOOKS. IF YOU BASTARDS IN CONGRESS SPENT LESS TIME KISSING THE ASS OF MEXICO, TRYING TO REGULATE THE INTERNET, AND STARTING WARS FOR ISRAEL, YOU JUST MIGHT BE CONSIDERED HONORABLE. RON PAUL, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF BUSH’S ASS, AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT FUEL PRICES. BY THE WAY, DID THE MONEY BOMB RAISE ENOUGH MONEY FOR YOUR SON TO GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL, CAUSE YOU HAD NO SERIOUS INTENTION OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:10 am
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/
urge you to drop him a email and let him know we know what he is up to!
May 20th, 2008 at 6:15 am
check the source:
http://lieberman.senate.gov/ne.....?id=298006
May 20th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Just sent him a message. Thanks for the link Natanael. Hope he doesn’t mind a complaint coming from a Canadian.
May 20th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Next time Lieberman may wish to say please… With sugar on top.
http://infowarsmoneybomb.com
May 20th, 2008 at 7:23 am
“al-Qaeda’s As-Sahab logo (supposedly the media arm of al-Qaeda) was placed on the tape at the same time as the IntelCenter logo. As it turns out, IntelCenter, notorious for releasing al-Qaeda videos, is run by Ben Venzke, former director of intelligence at a company called iDefense, a Verisign company. Jim Melnick, a senior military psy-op intelligence officer who worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld, is billed as iDefense’s director of threat intelligence. In short, there is a distinct possibility the al-Qaeda videos mentioned by Lieberman are fake.”
This is laughable, not what I quoted but what is going on here. It is no secret that rogue elements within our government salivate for a reason to govern, and censor the net. They’ve mentioned it time and time again all but saying the internet is a thorn in their side when trying to pass certain unconstitutional laws, so how can they try and get away with censorship on the net? Well perhaps their idea was creating and releasing some of their “Al Qaeda” tapes on the net, then turn around and say you must start censoring the videos released on your site because Al Qaeda is using it to recruit people. Each and every time they use Al Qaeda for their objectives, they want to go into Iraq they accuse Iraq of harboring Al Qaeda, they want to go into Iran they accuse Iran of harboring and providing weapons to Al Qaeda, they want to enforce and pass unconstitutional laws they accuse the United States citizens of wanting to join Al Qaeda, does it get any more obvious than this.. they want to censor the net.. so what do they do accuse the internet of being a recruiting zone for Al Qaeda.. this is ridiculous.
If they think releasing their very own Al Qaeda videos on the net is going to allow them to turn around and censor the internet they have another thing coming. If google complies than perhaps we need to start using another search engine. Now remember google bought youtube a while back for 1.6 billion dollars so if goog complies than they will comply on youtube as well. So the answer to that is to prop up another video site to the height that we propped up youtube and use that service instead. The internet is the last place to truly enjoy free speech, and no censorship and I know I personally don’t want to live in a country that picks and chooses what the people can read,write,watch, and play.
It reminds me when I read about australia and other countries banning certain books and games, I said to myself I’m glad I live in a country that does not violate the people in this way, and now my very own country seems to be fast heading torwards this route and I really don’t like what I see, hopefully you to will feel the same way.
May 20th, 2008 at 7:49 am
“Neal Krawetz, a researcher and computer security consultant, examined the image quantization table of a 2006 Ayman al-Zawahiri tape and made a fascinating discovery — al-Qaeda’s As-Sahab logo (supposedly the media arm of al-Qaeda) was placed on the tape at the same time as the IntelCenter logo.”
As I have repeatedly told you, this is false. I did NOT say that they were added at the same time. I was misquoted by Wired. Infowars just likes to propagate this false information because they don’t have any real information to provide.
May 20th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Anyway, for now, Gooogle has shown backbone. I hope it continues, and will stand up for it’s basic principles in the future as well. The increasing oppression we see is only the beginning.
May 20th, 2008 at 7:55 am
#13 Dr Neal Krawetz, so then what did you say about it? Please clear it up for us. Thanks in advance.
May 20th, 2008 at 8:15 am
…proof positive that the internet has emerged as the most dangerous weapon against the nwo… no wonder Lieberman wants to dismantle sooner than later
May 20th, 2008 at 8:26 am
…Ah-bdi… “Know thy enemy ” If “Al Qeada is really the enemy , than they should welcome any info , what to speak of videos , so we can…bdi…zoom in on them , corner them , etc… !?!
May 20th, 2008 at 8:40 am
the people are to blame for allowing the likes of lieberman to exist politically. he won the last election because the “war” workers want to keep and secure their jobs. its a sad reflection on america that our bread and butter exports are the tools of death.
May 20th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Lieberman is such a TURD! I’d find him and backhand him if I wouldn’t get arrested and thrown in jail for it, hahaha
May 20th, 2008 at 8:49 am
I agree with James.
Lieberman wants to dismantle not just the internet, but liberty and freedom in America.
It should be an enforceable requirement to hold any public office in he United States of America that the person seeking that office should have no visible ties, or relationships with or to, or any form of loyalty to any other nation or national interest or political view or party to or of any nation other than the United States of America. Loyalty to this country (The United States of America) and it’s constitution (The US Constitution, as written in 1776) should be visibly and provably their top and foremost priority over and above all other agendas, designs, and/or intents what-so-ever PERIOD.
May 20th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Rev. 2:9. ” I know the blasphemy of them which say they are JEWS and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. “
May 20th, 2008 at 8:55 am
You can’t censor anything. It’s just plain wrong. It’s like denying something exists.
May 20th, 2008 at 8:59 am
THANK YOU GOOGLE!!
May 20th, 2008 at 9:00 am
I happen to hold the unpopular view that Lieberman should have a live grenade stuffed up his arse and the pin pulled, and the video displayed on You Tube.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:01 am
A little victory
May 20th, 2008 at 9:06 am
#13, Please, set the record straight istead of just calling the information “misquoted” what did you say? And, have you contacted WIRED with your claim? If not, then why are you here, Alex showed his source, go to the source instead of attacking Alex, it is clear you they were the source, you even admit that, so your issue is with WIRED.
Of course, since you have now come here (supposedly) you owe us an explanation as well. We will not hold our breath for an answer, but thank you for the source verification. Good day, doc.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Right on #21! They are not who they say they are, yet own the leaders, GNP and the companies that manufacture it all for us. This is what was used against the Savior when He was fasting in the wilderness: ownership and control of the world.
Descendants/relatives of Judas Iscariot=death
May 20th, 2008 at 9:18 am
I think people are realizing that the Internet is the last piece of free speech there is. Block or censor it, and we go back to believing in cfc’s and terrorists.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Only let them censor the net over your dead body. Fight it with everything you’ve got people. I know I WILL.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Google is supporting terrorism.. Google / Youtube should be shut down until they change their opinion.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:37 am
The biggest mistake/calculation these madmen didn’t count on….is the Internet. I’m sure it’s driving them nuts, All that free, uncensored information flowing like a river. Thank God they made this mistake. Without the Internet we would know nothing, just lies/spin and propaganda. Believe me, they’ll do anything to shut it down, tax it, or controll it.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Internet is the elites’ nightmare. I think internet make it much harder for them to get things their ways. Internet could be the tool needed to bring them down. Knowledge is POWER!!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Google and Youtube will either voluntarily comply or will have the government take their sites over.We already have an office inside google ,so censorship is merely a “flick of the switch” so to speak.the average person cannot comprehend the damage these video’s do to morale and well being of the average american.the internet should not be used as a forum for terrorist organizations.to allow them access is akin to being allied with them in thier quest for american blood.
i would suggest to you that instead of worrying about matters of which you cannot control,concentrate on securing your safety and prosperity of yourself and family and let the professionals take care of the other problems .
May 20th, 2008 at 10:06 am
maybe Lieberman is scared that al-Qaeda will reveal who the real terrorists are!
May 20th, 2008 at 10:21 am
I had a dream the other night I didn’t understand,
A figure walking through the mist with a flintlock in his hand.
His clothes were torn, and dirty, as he stood there by my bed,
He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low he said:
We fought a revolution to secure our liberty,
We wrote the Constitution, as a shield from tyranny.
For future generations, this legacy we gave,
In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave.
The freedom we secured for you, we hoped you’d always keep,
But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep.
Your freedom gone – your courage lost – you’re no more than a slave,
In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave.
You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun,
Permits to start a business, or to build a place for one.
On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent,
Although you have no choice in choosing how the money’s spent.
Your children must attend a school that doesn’t educate,
Your moral values can’t be taught, according to the state.
You read about the current “news” in a regulated press,
You pay a tax you do not owe, to please the IRS.
Your money is no longer made of silver or of gold,
You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our Nation turn from God to shame,
You’ve taken Satan’s number, as you’ve traded in your name.
You’ve given government control to those who do you harm,
So they can padlock churches, and steal the family farm.
And keep our country deep in debt, put men of God in jail,
Harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail.
Your public servants don’t uphold the solemn oath they’re sworn,
Your daughters visit doctors so children won’t be born.
Your leaders ship artillery and guns to foreign shores,
And send your sons to slaughter, fighting other people’s wars!
Can you regain your freedom for which we fought and died?
Or don’t you have the courage, or the faith to stand with pride?
Are there no more values for which you’ll fight to save?
…Or do you wish your children live in fear, and be a slave?
Sons of the Republic, arise, and take a stand!
Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land!
Preserve our Republic, and each God-given right!
And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright!
As I awoke he vanished, in the mist from whence he came,
His words were true, we are not free, we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right,
We only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight.
If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep,
And wonder what remains of your rights he fought to keep;
What would be your answer if he called out from the grave?
Is this still the land of the free, and the home of the brave?
May 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Power corrupts and the United States politicians are bent on becoming important at our cost. I used to think AM radio was the answer to helping balance the media, I was wrong. It only confirms that the “mainstream” media are in bed together, they all have agendas that only need our money and empty heads. So far the only place I think I can find some truth in on the internet. I ask myself and my friends, “What are WE going to do NOW?” There a 270,000,000 of us and far fewer of “them”. We can win
May 20th, 2008 at 10:38 am
the NWO focused government makes this stuff up, just to give them a reason to advance their agenda on taking away our ( regular non-threat American citizens) ability to communicate.
Just like Germany in the 40’s. My mom was just a little kid in Norway and she remembers the nazi soldiers coming door to door to take away people’s radios. I think this one of the steps Naomi Wolf talks about.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Ghost from Valley Forge Says,
Is that your all your poem? If so, it is damn good.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:42 am
I wish: “The Ghost From Valley Forge” is the name of the poem Author is unknown. Just like it and share it once in awhile.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:45 am
omg, it should be a “no brainer” for any lawer to prevent this Homeland Security B.S.,
little problem: The LAW has changed, we allowed the LAW to be unjust and our only hope is to oppose the system
I respect and shall die if to protect the law in the Swiss Constitution and our Guaraneed Rights, but I already told my authorities that: I will not recognize ANY other law than that until september 18 2001 State Constitution
Until they expel the Israel paramillitary, Thalmudian/Jesuit/Draconian OpusDei gangsters, Nazi Bankers, well, ALL OF THECORPORATE MILITARY SCUM that like to be in my country; and make a public statement on its position of 911truth specifically the evidence we have on WTC7
The Shwitsoiz, the Orthodox Christians and the real Christians, the free thinkers, and me with all my sins, will not stop.
http://www.911truth.ch
May 20th, 2008 at 11:17 am
JUDAS LIEBREMAN
JUDAS
JUDAS
JUDAS
JUDAS
JUDAS
May 20th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Good on YouTube. The “do no evil” company stays true to its name.
May 20th, 2008 at 11:37 am
I am tired of this moron he needs to seriously do something else with his useless life before he dies-
May 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I HAVE SEEN THIS COMING FOR SOME TIME AND AM SOMEWHAT AMAZED THE NWO ALLOWED THE INTERNET TO EXIST AS LONG AS IT HAS.
GET READY TO LOSE OUR LAST CAPABILITY FOR REAL TRUTH COMMUNICATION. THE BASTARDS ARE COMING TO ELIMINATE OUR ABILITY TO SHARE INFORMATION!!!
PREPARE PEOPLE, TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
HOO-YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 11:59 am
This is key. They are talking about censoring “Al Qaeda” internet activity. Remember recently when the corporate media was saying We Are Change and sites like Alex Jones are really agents of Al Qaeda? If this persists, they could possibly yank infowars as an Al Qaeda website!
The funny part is- we fight terrorism here! If anyone is really with “Al Qaeda”, it’s FOX news Billo, Geraldo, and the corporate media. Not us.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
The American People Should Depose This Illegitimate Government
On September 11th, 2001, the US federal government forfeited their right to rule when they murdered 3000 of our own people. Governments, long known for murdering foreign people, are supposed to protect and defend their own people, and to seek and promote justice at home. When they begin to kill their own people that is known as Civil War. Lest we all become slaves we must now fight to depose the evil aggressors who declared war on us, when they began wantonly killing us that day. The government of the State Of New York lost all legitimacy when they failed to investigate and prosecute the WTC building bombers. Until the people of the U.S. achieve justice for this crime, there is no form of legitimate government in the U.S., as long as the states are under the thumb of federal supremacy, and can fathom letting 911 go unpunished.
We need not submit to those who are murdering us, unless we are cowards who have already accepted the yoke of slavery. Instead we must vow to fight until justice is achieved and freedom is restored. There is no mercy for those who are in on the plot to blow up the WTC, and to cover it up as well, be they enemies foreign or domestic. The true legitimate laws, such as the Constitution, deny legitimacy for institutions that rely on fearmongering in order to exist, such as the federal government and all of their agencies ranging from the IRS to the Defense Department.
The US has officially been at war since WWII in order to have a state of emergency to justify maintaining a hugely expensive military, and in order to justify squelching our freedom. This basis is and always has been false, and the purveyors of which are falsely cynical souls for whom the 7th layer of hell was created. And the IRS is a “voluntary” system based on an Amendment never ratified by the states that was passed on Christmas day when all good Christian Congressmen were at home with their families, yet imprisons and forfeits the property of the thousands of Americans based not on law, but on brute force. Americans need not tolerate it no more.
We have a system of elections that is completely unaccountable and obviously run by those with the will and the capacity to cheat. If our rulers were willing to kill us on 911, do you think would step aside because of an election, even if elections were fair? No, these are vicious killers who have set up the system of elections in order to give us a list of candidates who are all working to start WWIII, under the aegis of democracy in order to make the people believe they have a choice. Until elections become fair and accountable, victory must be achieved through any means necessary, with the audacity and daring of those who blew up the WTC in their attempt to establish the brave new world. Let us establish a new world indeed, one without those whose first loyalty is other than liberty, America, and freedom.
In order to take over the US, one doesn’t have to invade, they only need to have a lot of money, and then they can buy us out. For instance, rich Jewish bankers that have dominated the world money supply for centuries are the main owners of the Federal Reserve Bank, the most powerful institution in America. Saudi Arabia owns 10% of this country, if Saudi Arabians had really attacked us on 911 as the official govt. version of 911 claims, why did we let them all fly home that day when we should have been interrogating them. Money is more important. China owns 1/3 of the country’s debt now, notice how tight the US and China now are? Any criticism by the media of the China these days is lip service to make one guy left in Congress who cares about human rights happy.
Speaking of the Media and Congress, I think it’s getting obvious to everyone that both are run by the rich Jewish bankers, among other institutions. Come the day to string up the WTC bombers, we shall also remember those who forfeited their right to investigate the truth, and who covered up and lied for those who blew up the WTC. Building-bomber Appologists should be treated as criminal accomplices to murder. They are guilty of conspiracy, in a legalistic sense, and have conspired with the murderers to cover up their tracks.
But the tracks are clear. The evidence is there. We know of many who are involved in this crime…The Israeli Mossad, Guiliani, Silverstein, Marvin Bush, Dick Cheney, and the President, all played roles, there is much material available covering this. We know it was thermate that brought down the WTC, not jet fuel. As sure as Galileo was correct in maintaining his belief in the world being round, the flat-earthers will soon be silent and justice meted out to those so deserving, lest we enter another dark age of holocaust and inquisition were lies are forcefully perpetrated upon us and freedom no longer exists.
Choose Americans, are you a slave or are you free, will you turn the other cheek while your government kills your fellow countrymen and others needlessly die in far-off wars as your nation falls perpetually into financial dissolution. If what John McCain really wants is 100 years in Iraq then he must be ready to commit America to 1000 years of debt-slavery. We go to fight on their behalf and then owe debt a millennia, they got us both ways there, but they again we are goyim. My idea is to bring the troops home, via Israel, and while they’re there they ought to round up the 300 Mossad agents, explosives experts, who were arrested on 911 by local police forces yet released by Chertoff.
Deposing this illegitimate government could mean an end to the heavy burden it has imposed upon the US people. They take half our money for taxes and use every penny of it for war. What benefits do the Americans enjoy, save watching a huge corrupt bureaucracy flaunt our wealth. With million dollar missles and hundred dollar toilet seats, it seems most of our wealth we give up gets flushed down the drain. Hitler said of Russia before he invaded, “all we have to do is kick the door down, and the entire rotten structure will come crashing down”. That statement might have been false for Russia, but it is true for the US. We cannot win a war because the war profiteers will have us go broke first. Then the big bankers can collect interest for decades if not centuries to come, and we learn that was entirely the purpose in the 1st place, to spill the blood of Israel’s enemies using the blood of Christian goyim, to bankrupt our nations and our families and foreclose on our homes, and to forever enslave us in tyranny and financial obligations.
Let us reject tyranny and restore freedom.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
#41 thanks for posting it, loved it. I haven’t read it before, people should print it out a couple hundred times and go to the “news”paper machines, pay the 50 cents and insert one into each of the papers.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
But, Joe.. if you cut-off terrorist groups (named after bathroom fixtures) from making threats in public forums, then your job becomes much more harder. You can’t just put a kink in the line and not expect your agents, I mean your terrorists, to flow elsewhere?
In Joe ’s world, the terrorwars is bringing in alot of big bucks (not the kind one might find under joes bed with a stiffy) the kinda money Dick Cheney is making for the privitization firms now running the US military.
So Joe, why don’t you go back to class and learn how to not come-off as just another cock sucker trying to be the tuff guy, when all you do is swallow other mens loads.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
“This is key. They are talking about censoring “Al Qaeda” internet activity. Remember recently when the corporate media was saying We Are Change and sites like Alex Jones are really agents of Al Qaeda? If this persists, they could possibly yank infowars as an Al Qaeda website!
The funny part is- we fight terrorism here! If anyone is really with “Al Qaeda”, it’s FOX news Billo, Geraldo, and the corporate media. Not us.”
Well that is the point. They used the Al Qaeda stamp to go into Iraq, are using it against Iran, are starting to use it against the Internet in general, and next I am most certain they will use it on you and I. I wont be surprised if these pentagon types or others make a Al Qaeda video in which the supposed Al Qaeda members start praising the internet, and then they play it on Fox,NBC,CNN and say if you like the internet then you are with Al Qaeda or, the terrorists love the internet so we must take it down because they plan on using it to harm you and your children…etc… when this happens just know that we are a hop skip and a jump away from more Al Qaeda videos which state they support we are change, and love what they are doing and they are helping recruit some more members for them, and eventually where they praise the American people at large who don’t support the war because they are saving them from punishment.
This is how obvious it has become, if they want to demonize something all they do is get a middle eastern agent, toss a rag on his head and have him say some slanderous things against ________ by saying “This is helping me accomplish my evil terrorist goals muahahhahaha” then it will be played as proof that something needs to be taken away from us. Why not a new al qaeda video that praises freedom, so they can justify taking that away immediately, why not a al qaeda video that praises global warming so they can make people believe it exists and it needs to be stopped, why not an al qaeda video that denounces fascism because it is harder to be a terrorist in a fascist state and use it to garner the support for their nazi fascist ways.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Neocons are sacrificing everything good about America in order to salvage their failed pet project, Israel. I’m with the orthodox jews, Israel must be dismantled. Meyer Rothschild once opposed the Zionists because he thought setting up a jewish state in the mideast would be impracitical. He was right. Are orthodox jews and Meyer Rothschild antisemites? No, zionists are just very loud imposters. Judaism is a religion, zionism is a state. Judaism is 3500 years old, zionism is 100 years old. If Meyer Rothschild and the Orthodox Jews can oppose zionism, so can any one else.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
kuraltai the Rothschilds and other bankers are not exactly friends of freedom, they are the first profiteers of war and poverty, and the perpetuators of the status quo and what is going on right now. It is also the bankers that were the original assassins and anyone that came out against the banks were the first to be assassinated, look at any president who opposed the bank they were either assassinated or had attempts on their lives.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Janis Joblin said: ”Freedom’ just anotther word for nothing left to lose.’. I guees Lieberman wants us to be very free as he seeks to squelch the voice of those who where taught the value of free speech. Seems he feels free to say what he wants, what a hypocrite.
May 20th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Orthodox jew, huh?
I just read (HAARaTZ) how hundreds Orthodox jews attended a New Testament book burning party in a lot near a synagogue, as just another latest act of violence against the Christian family.
Why is it jews love taking the Americans church money, then spit on the cross?
I guess the jews feel they no longer need protection from the only people in the world who were stupid enough to care. Curse you Israel. Curse you to hell.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Most israelis and jews simply don’t know whats going on, and the catholics neither, its the same core that will get world religon force-fed through the coming ebe deception kissinger backed chemtrail ops coming soon, THIS is what the internet has to be shot down, they cannot expose the info on the internet about:
http://www.rense.com/general3/ufochem.htm
May 20th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Where is the actual letter?
I noticed that they censor Loose Change and make you register that you’re over18 due to the content.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
wow, Google stands up to Lieberman? This is direct evidence that large corporations can wipe
their ass with the United States doctrine anytime. Now, as long my stuff pops up inside Google search
I will keep smiling
May 20th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
What’s that flushing sound? The first amendment being swirling down the toilet b/c it promotes religious extremism and hatred–that’s what they say.
Never mind it was the CIA and Mossad that gutted the twin towers. Disregard that our Fuhrer GWB used that as a pretext for the war on terror, where he’s killed millions, and has built a police state with the Patriot Act and his Gestapo, Homeland security. Now they’re building concentration camps across the country–to stop religious extremism.
The only religious extremism that is a threat to us right now is the Synagogue of Satan. Who or what is going to stop them?
May 20th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Kurt, etc., this that you quote about, “(t)he commission would have very broad powers. It could investigate anyone. It would create a public perception that whoever is being investigated by the Commission must be involved in subversive or illegal activities. It would give the appearance that whoever they are investigating is potentially a traitor or disloyal or a terrorist, even if all they were doing was advocating lawful views,” is already happening. DHS and the FBI, but especially DHS already does this, pursuant to the unConstitutional “USA (Un)Patriot(ic) Act”. They visit people, as they did me two years ago, ‘creating a public perception that they are being investigated for being involved in subversive or illegal activities… and the appearance that they are also being investigated for potentially being a traitor, disloyal and/or a terrorist, even though all they have done is advocate lawful views’, as is all I had EVER done.
Thus they have given the false impression and/or perception to many in the general public, including those peoples’ neighbors and family, including mine, that the people who they visit are “potentially dangerous”, that they should be “presumed guilty”, that “they must be involved in… illegal activities, etc. As a result of this, innocent people like myself are made extremely unsafe, have little or no privacy, are watch constantly, and have to live on a daily basis with the fact that they could be “disappeared” any day because some government agent, family member or neighbor simply claim they did something that they did not do. This is the stifling and intentionally fear generating climate that all of “America” is living under right now, and a great deal of innocent Americans are living under right now, who have done nothing but uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and/or exercise the rights and duties delineated in it, as I did.
So my point is that what oppression, and very soon to follow repression, that we will be under when the “Thought Crime Law”, the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism (Creation) Act of 2007″, is passed into so-called, but completely unConstitutional, “law” by the U.S. Senate, we will have already been under its oppressiveness for the past six and a half years, since the “(Un)Patriotic Act of 2001″ was passed into unConstitutional “law”, it will just be made (much?) worse by the institutionalization of the, and “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism (Creating)…”, “Thought Crime Law”. So much for freedom, and so much for “the land of the free”!
May 20th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
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May 20th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
also, dont dismiss info because its unbeleivable, so was 911,
REX84 IS already in place, incremental, bur already accelerating!
May 20th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Lieberman needs to resign over this issue and many others. If he was a true “independent” he would not be asking Google to do this. Google needs to stick up for its rights and not allow Lieberman and others tell them how to run their websites.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
YES ALEX, you should bring your family to a safer place, and YOU already decided to fight till the end, do be careful, they will hit hard soon
May 20th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
@#1 BEN says: “Those Adam Pearlman videos are offensive”
Hey Ben, I have a solution for you!
DON’T WATCH THEM!!!
I have never seen anything which promotes “Al-CIAduh” on youtube, or any videos anywhere else for that matter. I guess that might be because I’M NOT LOOKING FOR THEM! I’ve also never heard of anyone joining a terrorist group through the internet.
If real terrorists are using the internet to recruit or carry out operations, maybe the spooks should spend more time looking at them instead of posting on digg and infowars all day.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Joe Lieberman is a snivleing NWO lap dog….I remember when he ran for president….that dude always seemed like he was ready to cry….what a doosh bag
May 20th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
censorship? wow….
May 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Leiberman is just another corporate boot-licker!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
#61: Don’t forget Garden Plot!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
If they censor Youtube it is over. Our freedom which is eroding daily is already dead. What will be even more of a telling sign is if Americans DO NOT object to the censoring of YouTube. If they simply let it go quietly into the night like everything else they have allowed to happen then you know we are in some real trouble.
I know it’s going to hit the fan soon. I have tried to prepare as best I can to protect and feed my family in the coming days. I hope that what I have done will be enough.
PS. If you are trying to prepare for the coming times I have a great opportunity for those who are interested. Just click on my name to find more information. Good luck to all and God Bless America!
May 20th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Lieberman probably posted those videos he found so offensive!
Jerk!
May 20th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
What’s interesting is not the fact that our liberties are eroding daily, but that we will do nothing meaningful about it. We see and understand the threat around us but are unable to do anything about it. It is not being able to do anything that allows this evil to continue. Only when we actually do something will things begin to change. Everyone waits for someone else to do something first and it is that wait and see attitude that will come back to haunt us.
May 20th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Zionist groups are always used to promote outrageous arguments like free speech is Terrorism. Even the Neo Cons don’t have the balls to do it so they call in their Zionist stooges to make their outrageous statements.
May 20th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
That’s Ok Lieb, there are a gazillion You Tube type sites on-line now, so people will just go somewhere else to watch the ‘good stuff’ that your ‘Master’ doesnt want us to see.
13*
May 20th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Funny, Joe attacks our rights while he is denied the ability to even SEE the Continuity Of Govt. legislation which he is supposedly part of !!!!!! Sounds like the rats are up to more no-good again !!! But of coarse we must let Fascism destroy America before we can re-build it !!!
May 20th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Americans DO NOT object to the censoring of YouTube, as well as a shit load of other things and this is also why the things that are happening continue to happen and why American’s will loose most of all there freedoms they once knew.
Again, another jewish/American, if American at all, telling the United States what he or she should or should not listen to.
And Americans just stand there like big fools
May 20th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
the only thing we americans lack is leadership and the ability to rally together as one unit to oust this tyrrany and blatant robbery of our rights and freedom..we are ready and willing and very able..we only wait for the shot that can be heard around the world…let the endgame begin!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Lieberman is a puppet of the Illuminati. That Jesuit created and controlled entity hates our constitution and bill of rights. The Roman Catholic Church is the force behind the move toward a New World Order.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
u are right gimme back my bullets we need a leader to bring all of us together when we get that leader watch out nwo its time for them to learn what the uk had to learn all those years ago that americans are a powerful force and not so easily defeated
May 20th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
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givemebackmybullets Says:
May 20th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
the only thing we americans lack is leadership and the ability to rally together as one unit to oust this tyrrany and blatant robbery of our rights and freedom..we are ready and willing and very able..we only wait for the shot that can be heard around the world…let the endgame begin!!!
Never going to happen ,the average Billy JoeBob Redneck is too worried about whether Wal*MArt has 18 pack of bud on sale today.
you still have your rights and freedoms ,you still can own a firearm ,you still can drive from state to state.if you can afford the fuel.
so like i already said it is high time people stopped worrying about things of which they have no control and start worrying about making a better life for yourself and family.
Live for today- Tommorow will take care of itself.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Interesting but Youtube has already been documented censoring various Truth oriented videos for a while now. Numerous Alex Jones docs have been taken down, Zeitgeist kept getting knocked off and The Great Global Warming Swindle had been removed. Also they freeze or zero out the numbers of popular vids that they don’t want getting too high a rating. Recently when my various Alex Jones and Wearechange 9-11-07 vids got into the tens of thosands of viewings my counter was mysteriously set to zero. Interesting.
WOW, I just checked my Google video page while typing this and 4 of them are “CURRENLTLY NOT AVAILABLE”!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Google for proving my point oh so well!!!! Let see if they go back up.
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
Of course the fact that they don’t do that with the alleged Al CIAda vids gives even more credence to the likelihood that they are Neo-Con sponsored fakes that Youtube is aware of and is dutifully disseminating them to rile up the dupes and shift the focus to “Homegrown Terrorism”. Of course the Patriot act was always targeted at the True America patriots and, along with the Homeland Security act was drawn up years ago during the Clinton administration. The reason they weren’t implemented then was most likely that not all the bombs in the A.P. Murer building in Oklahoma City went off so the building remained standing. They realized then they needed a bigger bang to make the next Pearl Harbor moment.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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Steve Oh Says:
, I just checked my Google video page while typing this and 4 of them are “CURRENLTLY NOT AVAILABLE”!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Google for proving my point oh so well!!!!
i guess you missed the “main steam” news story that the government has an office inside google monitoring traffic and removing items deemed “unsanitary”
it is no top secret finding .
May 20th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
If you watch and common sense tells you WTC7 was a controlled demotion… YOU’RA A terrorist THAT NEEDS TO BE DETAINED… RESIST THESE ASSHOLES … THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE INTERNET AND COMPUTERS and will no longer have a stranglehold monopoly on the turth .. lieberman i hope he gets raped by bin laden… get lost loser… you BANKER SCHILL protecting the corporation in the name of lies… BURN in hell.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
YEAH, I was aware for a while of the govt. office in Google doing such but there is a really creepy feeling that wells up inside when one realizes that one has become a target at last! I guess I should feel flattered?!?! Definitely brings the taste home!
http://WWW.SOHOUNDERGROUND.COM is ready to finally come out on it’s own! Been meaning to get it in gear for a while but this surely is the kick in the ass I needed!!!!!! Gotta get my own video hosting on line, that’s all there is to it. Check it out in a coupla weeks fellow truth seekers!
May 20th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Remember Barry McGuire’s song “Eve of Destruction”? http://video.google.com/videop.....3struction“?
May 20th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Here’s another one, maybe it will work – http://video.google.com/videop.....4ALW_djZCQ
May 20th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
i was under the impression that youtube already censored a lot of videos… mainly those that promote violence…
and, they’ve gone even further…
i recently tried to view a clip from a cartoon that was aired this weekend… i found the clip but it has been “banned from being viewed in the country that you’re in”
i live in chicago
and i wasn’t allowed to watch a clip from “robot chicken”…. it was called “1776″ and it’s just a spoof of the movie 300
May 20th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Sounds like Joe wants to limit the overwhelming exposure of Isreal and the CIA’s involvement in 9-11.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
That’s it!! He is echoing the words of the violent radicalizm and homegrown terrorism prevention act which sits there in the senate. Obama sits there too, drooling over it, wish he could be the god that enforces it! They are fixing to pass it!!! This is top level five alarm warning!! As soon as they pass sb1959,,, every single one of us will be a homegrown terrorist, immediately! If you are not ready to fight, then you really need to run away now and fast. If you have not read it, PLEASE go to youtube and watch the HR 1955 videos, ALL OF THEM, NOW. RED ALERT!!!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
If for some reason you don’t, or can’t, understand the language in the Bill,well; It makes peacful protest illegal. It makes failure to disperse an act of force: terrorism. It makes talking against the government illegal. It makes sending or posting anything against the war, government, the fed, illegal. Then it says if you are breaking the law in this way, you ARE a homegrown terrorist. You have no rights, zilch, zero, nyit, nada, nothing. We are are the verge of it. It will be worse than hitler. The trains are waiting.
May 20th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
[ Correction(s): ]
Kurt, etc., this that you quote about, “(t)he commission would have very broad powers. It could investigate anyone. It would create a public perception that whoever is being investigated by the Commission must be involved in subversive or illegal activities. It would give the appearance that whoever they are investigating is potentially a traitor or disloyal or a terrorist, even if all they were doing was advocating lawful views,” is already happening. DHS and the FBI, but especially DHS already does this, pursuant to the unConstitutional “USA (Un)Patriot(ic) Act”. They visit people, as they did me two years ago, ‘creating a public perception that (those they visit) are being investigated for being involved in subversive or illegal activities… and/or the appearance that they are being investigated for potentially being a traitor, disloyal and/or a terrorist, even though all they have done is advocate lawful views’, as is all I have EVER done.
Thus they have given the false impression and/or perception to many in the general public, including those peoples’ neighbors and family, including mine, that the people who they visit are “potentially dangerous”, that they should be “presumed guilty”, that “they must be involved in… illegal activities”, etc. As a result of this, innocent people like myself are made extremely unsafe, have little or no privacy, are watched constantly, and have to live on a daily basis with the fact that they could be “disappeared” any day because some government agent, family member or neighbor simply claimed they did something that they did not do. This is the stifling and intentionally fear generating climate that all of “America” is living under right now, and a great deal of innocent Americans are living under right now, who have done nothing but uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and/or exercise the rights and duties delineated in it, as I did.
So my point is that what oppression, and very soon to follow repression, that we will be under when the “Thought Crime Law”, the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism (Creation) Act of 2007″, is passed into so-called, but completely unConstitutional, “law” by the U.S. Senate, we will have already been under its oppressiveness for the past six and a half years, since the “(Un)Patriotic Act of 2001″ was passed into unConstitutional “law”, it will just be made (much?) worse by the institutionalization of the, and “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism (Creating)…”, “Thought Crime Law”. So much for freedom, and so much for “the land of the free”!
May 20th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Joe L must hang along with the other bastards in the current puppet gov’t. VOTE RON PAUL!
May 20th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Lieberman is a bigger idiot than i first realized. Backing MCCain what the hell is he thinking. I give up on this dumbass. Maybe they should team up and run on the same ticket as Dumb and Dumber.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:03 am
“Hijacked Nation”, and others, I’m under the oppression, I mean impression, that Lieberman would probably enjoy being raped by Osama bin Goldstein, I mean Laden. Heck, he sure enjoys raping the entire U.S. of A. and the world with al-CIA-duh; so he’s taking it “in the behind” by al-CIA-duh “for the good of America”, Israel, and the world! Never mind that he’s an agent of a foreign power exercising completely unConstitutional and illegal foreign influence against the United States, and doing a bang up true terrorist job of eradicating the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights with his other Zionist-Neo-Nazi-CONS”, and destroying all True Freedom(s) in the ostensible “land of the free”! The completely Satanic criminals get away with everything, except a few “fall-guys”, and the totally innocent citizens get falsely accused of being criminals, “perceived threatening conduct(ors)” and/or so-called “terrorists” for standing up for True Freedom, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution! Have we entered the “twilight zone” or “the outer limits”?! Uh, al-cia-DUH, we sure have!! I feel like since 9-11, I inadvertently stepped sideways into another dimension, that’s just how extremely “bizarro” the “reality” we are in right now is!!
I might as well wish for a pony at my age; but, Dear God, may we all PLEASE wake up from this nightmare and find things return(ed) to at least a semblance of the “normality” we knew pre-9-11!! At least for awhile!!
May 21st, 2008 at 1:11 am
Wolf Britain. Seems we are on the same page after all! How are ya my Christain buddy?
May 21st, 2008 at 2:05 am
OMG!!!! “Mike In Austin” could you possibly be any further out in left field! o.O I mean trains!!, thats so WWII, no now its helos and C130’s
, much humor here but serious at the same time
May 21st, 2008 at 2:16 am
I’m done with you, Gabe. Unless you act like the Christian you claim to be, please don’t try to converse with me anymore. I don’t trust you AT ALL. And don’t pretend you care about me, or “love” me, when you have the temerity to have no compassion whatsoever for me as a disabled person, and no compassion for disabled people at all, by completely falsely, fraudulently, libelously, slanderously, and with defamation and assassination of character, claiming I and/or they, and/or all disabled people, are supposedly welfare bums, frauds and supposedly deserving of no compassion, you total phony hypocrite.
“It is written, thus says the Lord [God the Father in and through Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of, and the Maker / Creator of all things EXCEPT EVIL]…” “…Get… behind (Jesus the Christ), Satan (and Gabe)”! “…You are of your father the devil, and the (lies) of your father you… do…”! (Matthew 16:23 and John 8:44; etc.; emphasis added by me.)
May 21st, 2008 at 2:18 am
I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but here goes:
Anyone who thinks that the US isn’t ALREADY in a state of fascism is clearly deluded. Think of all the ‘coincidental’ occurences: Passing of the Patriot and Military Commissions Act, the building of many secret detention centres, the obvious militarization of the local police force, unlawful detention and torturing of a small group in US led foreign jails, Supreme Court Justices calling torture ‘not cruel and unusual punishment’, groundless tazering of citizens by local police, laws forbidding speech and thought (!), the upcoming Supreme Court case on the right to bear arms (how many of you would like to bet this one will also go against the people?).
If all these things combined in such a short period of time do not constitute a fascist state, what does? What do US citizens expect to see before they say, ‘ok, our freedoms are over’? People being walked through the streets in shackles? People being woken up at gun-point and being forced to work in concentration camps for 18 hours a day then being led back to their cell? Bodies being taken out of the gas chambers? Do they really need it to get that far before they wake out of their zombie state?
I recommend you (US citizens) all start talking to your neighbours, those who see things they way you do. Start forming neighbourhood alliances, to protect yourselves against ‘terror’ and ‘enemies’ (those being ‘both foreign and domestic’ – if you know what I mean). Your family, friends and neighbours are the best starting point. There is strength in numbers and I think it’s highly unlikely a large number of strangers are suddenly going to ban together in arms to resist any tyrannical force.
May 21st, 2008 at 2:20 am
Where did that come from?Wolfy
May 21st, 2008 at 2:24 am
I agree with “Wolf Britain”’s sentiment:
I inadvertently stepped sideways into another dimension, that’s just how extremely “bizarro” the “reality” we are in right now is!!
May 21st, 2008 at 2:25 am
http://www.infowars.com/?p=2196#comments
May 21st, 2008 at 3:54 am
Chote’ Vi, there is nothing bizarre about it really. The current “reality” is just a natural outcome of the desires of those who wish to control, over those who wish to relish in their comforts while forsaking their security. When I say “security”, I mean real security, like the security of one’s self, family, home, respect AND freedom. US citizens have exchanged all these for the ability to sit at home in front of their 42 inch LCD, with a 4×4 in the garage, watching America’s Got Talent.
When people stop appreciating their freedom then there will ALWAYS be those waiting in the wings waiting to snatch it from them. I mean what’s so bizarre about that. Don’t you know that this whole situation has already been played out in another country just 60 years ago; right down to the name ‘Homeland Security’? It only seems bizarre because we haven’t been paying attention. US citizens expect to live in the “home of the braze, land of the free” forever without paying for it. Paying for it by fighting for it. By not allowing public officials to get away with braking the law. By not allowing police officers (who use to be called “peace officers” back in the day, by the way) to infringe on Constitutional rights, among other things. People have allowed these to happen and far more. And now, all of a sudden, our situation seems “bizarro”. Really? It appears completely logical to me. The only question is, what’s the logical next step?
May 21st, 2008 at 6:07 am
Who said it was illogical, “J”? I didn’t. It’s perfectly illogical (sic) to me too, if you catch my pun… But I know what you mean. It’s just that, as “logical” or “real” as things might be right now, they’re still bizarre, even if it’s to be expected considering that history repeats, fascists will always be waiting in the wings for people(s) who take their freedom(s) for granted so they can take advantage of situation and seek to control them, and/or considering that people who are dumbed down allow themselves to be bamboozled more and more, to have their freedoms be taken away, and to be controlled, subjugated and/or enslaved. It comes down to the age old problem that most people believe it supposedly can’t happen to them, their country and/or their world. Anyway, shartguy, what are some answers to this conundrum if there are any from your point of view?
May 21st, 2008 at 8:54 am
does any one see the star of david on the picture behind the podeom?
May 21st, 2008 at 10:16 am
Wolf Britian, I wasn’t referring to your comments on “bizarro”, I was referring to the situation being bizarro in general. And any intelligent person will infer that something which is bizarre is, by it’s very nature, illogical. Otherwise it would cease to be bizarre. But let’s forget the semantics.
How do I suggest we get oursleves out of this situation? Not that I think enough Americans have the brass to follow these suggestions, but here goes anyway:
1) Stop quoting the Bible in hopes that rapture will save all us ‘good’ souls from this ‘conundrum’. I’m sorry, but US leaders are Godless and will have no pity on the religous.
2) Stop watching television and start talking to your neighbours. Do you even know their names? I suspect you (as in the ‘general American’) do not. But yet, Americans think that there is going to be a sudden ‘awakening’ where masses will bear arms together to support one another. That’s going to take as much faith as the coming of the rapture.
3) Go and get yourself armed, as is your Constitutional right! And do it now!
4) Form neighbourhood security groups, where likeminded neighbours are in agreement to support one another (in armed conflict if necessary) against all enemies, foreign or domestic (if you know what I mean).
5) Sart becoming self sufficient. Go buy your food from a farmer instead of the grocer.
6) Learn the law. Know what our rights are. Teach it to your kids.
Shall I go on or can you start to figure out the rest on your own?
Lastly…
Stop asking people what you can do! For goodness sake, when you got into a school yard fight did you look at your friends and say “what do I do?” or did you just fight? Didn’t we learn anything in the school yard??! Be a bloody adult and accept the fact that you only have rights when you’re willing to fight for them. Otherwise, just accept the fact that common people in Biblical times were slaves. You know what I mean…?
May 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“J”, first of all, I don’t believe in the “rapture”, other than the word simply means the second coming of Jesus the Christ. (Before you say it, I realize your message wasn’t only directed to me.)
Second, I don’t watch television, other than a couple of shows online as a release valve after spending hours every day educating myself online about what’s really going on.
Third, I am not going to stop being religious just because you and many if not most so-called “patriots” like it or not, because I know without any doubt(s) that True Christianity is the Truth.
Fourth, I’m not expecting most government people to have pity on True Patriots, or anyone else for that matter.
Fifth, I was not asking you what to do. I know what to do. It just seemed that you were being critical, sarcastic, patronizing, and/or condescending, without giving any constructive suggestions about anything.
So, please stop talking down to people and acting like we’re all stupid. I for one am a very intelligent 52 year old man, and I don’t let ANYONE get away with treating me with disrespect. No one appreciates being treated condescendingly. It may come as news to you, but you are not the number one wise man here, anymore than I am, so humble yourself.
I hear many of you “patriots” say to get together with other people, but I think you’re far too trusting of most people. Ninety-nine point nine percent of our neighbors aren’t to be trusted at all. Believe me, I know this from firsthand experience. I’m not going to be going out seeking to get involved with any of my neighbors, or seeking them out, because it’s just too dangerous. Most of them will turn us in at the drop of a hat, or in a heartbeat. As you know, the government has conditioned the vast majority of them that way.
Nope, unless I find a group of True Christians, and I mean NOTHING BUT TRUE Christians, out in the wilderness, I choose to stay to myself, thank you. Virtually every time I try to befriend anyone, I end up regretting it. Most people are users and controlled by evil, especially now more than ever before, and it’s only going to get worse, so I have no desire to put my liberty and my physical safety on the line seeking to trust most people when I know that ninety-nine times out of a hundred they will burn me. People say there are a lot of “good” people out there, but I haven’t found that to be the case. Though I still do put my freedom(s) and my life on the line anyway trying to wake some people up, I wouldn’t give a wooden nickel for most people, and most of them are just too far gone into rejection of their Maker, as you appear to be; Godlessness; self-centeredness; lust; other evil(s); and/or other such indoctrination, conditioning, programming, and/or brainwashing; etc. Most people pride themselves on being a-holes, witches and/or snitches.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Update from my comment #82
Just a footnote. A coupla hours after posting my comments on Infowars, lo and behold my videos were back up! This could just be coincidence. Or maybe the Googletites were oogling the article about them and realized I was calling them on their own game. I guess I’ll never know…