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Man Dies After Shocked By Taser Gun
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Click2Houston.com
July 14, 2008
A burglary suspect died after an officer shocked him with a Taser gun late Sunday, KPRC Local 2 reported.
Houston police said the man got into a scuffle with officers after a burglary at a home on Galaxy Street near Locksley Road at about 11:55 p.m.
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Investigators said they found broken glass and three men were inside the home. The men were detained for questioning.
Police said the man kept running when they told him to stop.
An officer fought with the man as he tried to arrest him, detectives said. Another officer went to help and ended up shocking the man with a Taser gun twice, detectives said.
The man was arrested and paramedics were called to check him out, officials said. He was rushed to a hospital and died, police said.
The Harris County Medical Examiner’s Office will determine if the man died as a direct result of being shocked.
Houston police started using Taser guns in 2004. Officers have deployed their Taser guns more than 1,600 times and no deaths have been attributed to their use.
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July 14th, 2008 at 10:40 am
“no deaths have been attributed to their use.”
Lie Houston, lie! Houston we do have a problem.
Death by tasers. But the problem is the police state deploying them.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I am fine with this one, if he broke into a home, and then ran, cops may have normally used a gun in this situation, so the taser was the way to go here. If they would have shot him I think I would have been fine with it. Heck, the homeowners should have shot them and buried them in the back yard as far as I am concerned, they had no business being in someone elses house. So in this situation……..I say Tase away. And believe me, I am not for all the tasing that is going on, but in this case I think they did the right thing……….heh……imagine that……cops did the right thing. There really are a lot of good cops, but you just never hear of them of course, I am not against the cops (as I know none of you are either) just the bad ones.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Yeah, a running burglar is alot different than a father holding his baby, or a pregnant woman, or a handicapped person in a wheelchair, or a mentally handicapped person, or a canadian person without tickets for the train, or people throwing a party with a permit, or peaceful protestors, or even a 110 lb woman handcuffed felon locked in the backseat of a cop car. Burglars used to get shot, now they get tazered, big whoop.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Am I supposed to be upset that a person died because he was tased while invading someone’s home and robbing them?
If he were robbing my home, he would have been dead ‘before’ the police ever arrived. Shame on the homeowner for not protecting himself and his property.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:19 am
But the thing is that if someone puts every single one of these taser deaths and heart and health problems from the usage of these demonic gadgets then one day some cops kid will travel out of state and that poor kid will end up dying before they realize who he was and miraculously cops will turn o the usage of tasers.
Believe me…not before.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:39 am
To Denny
What if that same police officer with the same tase gun had used it on an innocent person? What if the reason he died is that police officer doesn’t know how to use that torture weapon properly? It just so happened to be a home invader…..
July 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Possibly justifiable use here. I still don’t like it tho. They just need to stop calling these devices “Non Lethal”. They kill people, its that simple.
le·thal Pronunciation[lee-thuhl]
–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or causing death; deadly; fatal: a lethal weapon; a lethal dose.
2. made to cause death: a lethal chamber; a lethal attack.
3. causing great harm or destruction: The disclosures were lethal to his candidacy.
So how are they not lethal?
July 14th, 2008 at 11:48 am
If someone is in the process of commiting a crime, gets tasered & dies as a result, that’s just part of the risk one takes in their decision to commit the crime such as that listed here. Even if it may have been unnecessary. It is still the risk you take when you decide to commit a crime that involves a victim or injured party. It is in the process of someone getting tasered from a so called law enforcement officer because they are there and do not respond instantly to the order from the officer and you get tasered when no threat was imposed to begin with.
The taser gun was for the purpose of use as a final decision for protection when all other options have been exhausted opposed to a gun that would be lethal under any circumstances, but unfortunately it has been totally abused like most everything is when it comes to control and power. As we have heard that it’s not guns that kill people. It’s people that kill people. Same principle holds with tasers or any instrument of force or control. When you have a fleet of hinchmen that have been brain washed and conditioned to believe what the justus system teaches them, (we are the enemy) what do you expect.
July 14th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Donna (from # 6)
I am with you, I was only saying that our rights as free people allow us to be safe in our home and whatever happens to a home invader is their problem. If they hadn’t been violating someones rights it wouldn’t have happened. I am against tasers being used ‘willy nilly’ though, I think the cops have this idea they can use it whenever they want. I think they need to at the very least think to themselves before using it ‘ would I use a billy club about now’ and then some of them would still fail the test morally.
July 14th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
As far as the police what happen to them making the right ethicial decision. I think most cops try to do their best. I mean there is always cops that get paid off. As a person that had home broken into during the middle of day. I was only gone an hour for lunch with a friend. I hate to say it but chop their hand off but then it gets to my dad’s point that we have to support them if we do that to them. On bularies I am not concern about the stuff as much but the safety of family. I mean if you got insurance there is no worry and lot of time you get better stuff. Theives know this too. So point being use the tasers but understand it use needs to justify later just like with a bullet from a gun.
July 14th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Houston police started using Taser guns in 2004. Officers have deployed their Taser guns more than 1,600 times and no deaths have been attributed to their use.
Is this the reported deaths or lack of reported deaths by taser? I personaly can’t stand thieves, and we all know the fear it causes people to have their homes robbed…But if cops are using devices which might kill someone to stop them from escaping…is it worth cathing them right at that moment? Why not truely investigate and fool accomplises into snitching to help lock up the criminal? maybe with educating and counseling these criminals will be rehabilitated ? But c’mon killing them or firing a taser that might kill em? What is wrong with people? Now I imagine some loud mouth dirty talk’n person will comment back, saying rehabilitation doesn’t work! Well that’s not true! I committed crimes over ten years ago and have been rehabilitated and educated also. Infact never again have I commited common-law crimes! So let’s think about this before we allow cops to use questionable soft kill weapons! It’s not Rite! It’s not the RIGHTEOUS thing to do!
July 14th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I hope the burglar who refused to stop after being ordered to and scuffled and indangered police officers life died a painfull agonizing death.
July 14th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
shocking story.
July 14th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
If the fat ass doughnut eating pig could give foot chase this wouldn’t happen.
July 14th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
The corporate media is so untrustworthy now, the real story probably sounds more like this-
Three friends were visiting another friend, shocked and surprised to find police robbing their friends house. When threatened, two of the friends backed down and submitted. The third friend, being loyal, was tased 5,200 times to death as an example.
July 14th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Any time someone dies as a result of a taser they will be labeled.
That’s how it’s going to work. May I reiterate? He was a “suspected” burglar.
Although this could be a legitimate criminal, once you start giving guns back to the officers,
their trigger fingers are going to be that much more itchy! But we need to bow down to
our masters, and heaven forbid we should plead our case for that would be talking back at
them. Remember, we are guilty until proven innocent.
July 14th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
People, nobody is feeling sorry for burglars, but let’s start calling these tasers what they really
are – portable electric chairs. What we’re doing is pretending these are harmless little toys, when
in fact they’re downright deadly.
July 14th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Yes I agree. If the Burglar died because of trying to steal… Then so be it. He should of just went out and found hisself a job instead of trying to steal from us HARD WORKING PEOPLE. The way i see it is just another criminal off the streets. If they took him in and threw him in jail, he would of eventually got out again and then who knows? He could of killed some innocent people, shot someone, or whatever. Why are people making such a big deal out of this? He got what was coming to him and deserved it. This should teach any thieves out there not to steal.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
He didn’t deserve to die, period.
Most of these replies are coming from sheeple.
Since when is theft any reason for murder.
Now if the homeowner used self defense or a weapon that is a different story.
Police should not be killing people when they are running away.
What they should do is get in shape and run them down.
Besides we don’t know the whole story so all this is speculation.
Personally I would feel a lot better if police didn’t carry anything but a baton and every citizen had a weapon like in Switzerland.
July 14th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
THE THIEF WAS CAUGHT IN THE ACT AND YOU’RE DEFENDING THE THIEF? NO WONDER YOU INFOIDIOTS THINK 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, YOU’RE WELL….IDIOTS.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:10 am
JASMINE,
You are not getting the point. He didn’t deserve to die from the Gestapo and excessive force.
Since the patriot act was put into place, gives the cops the power like they did in Germany but worse.
I don’t see any difference even if they took out their service guns and shot him in the back. I hink the cops are cowards for shooting him in the back. It would be different if the thief assaulted the cop to maybe shoot him the leg or let a dog loose on him. Oh, I forgot, 7 out of 10 cops fail their gun tests.
The cops have gotten lazy and aren’t up to the chase and tackle him like the old days.
July 15th, 2008 at 1:13 am
Jasmine you’re a minor distraction at best.
I would even talk dirty to you but since your a guy I’ll pass.
How much do you get paid for this Jasmine?????
July 15th, 2008 at 2:13 am
“Officers have deployed their Taser guns more than 1,600 times and no deaths have been attributed to their use.” Um, except for this time.
Anyway, I hope this guy’s estate sues the crap out of HPD.
July 15th, 2008 at 8:32 am
He was a burglary suspect who was repeatedly asked to stop running. Cops are now advised to be mindful about how they pursue suspects since, in case of an accident to themselves, they may prejudice any medical/injury claims. The use of TASER is problematic because its use leads to casual use without knowing if its use may or may not be lethal. Furthermore, where suspects would have relented in the face of a more probable lethal result from the alternative service pistol, for example,, they can now decide to take chances to evade arrest.
July 15th, 2008 at 11:47 am
a 52 year old black man….. police found three suspects inside the “vacant and vandalized house”
[ what is to burgle from a "vacant and vandalized house"?]
why would a black man run from the police?
police said that the man was tasered twice, because the “first taser shot had no effect”
Hmmm… cops investigating a “break in” at a previously, “vacant and vandalized house”… find
three “suspects” and arrest them. A man is seen running from the back of the house…. this 52 year old man who according to the news may indeed have diabetes and a heart condition… cannot be stopped by at least TWO cops. The second cop administered the taser shots.
So far, we have [only] the word of the cops on scene…. who just killed a man.
……………………….yep.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
The police have been given to much power. Their job used to be described as protection for citizens, not this killer force.
If you look at the records from the corporation that manufactures tasers you will see that the taser is a killing weapon. It should not be used by police to subdue citizens even if they are possibly doing something against the law. The only time would be the same rules that apply to their use of guns which would be if a criminal were to attack using deadly force with a weapon.
July 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
People, why should the insurance companies govern what a police officer should do in case of his own injuries? Again, the corporations are out of control and we should force our representatives in office to change these rules they helped to concoct. In fact if any of the representatives or senators who helped to cause these atrocities are involved, employed by or own insurance companies they should be put in prison….
July 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Jasmin (might you be boy or girl), writing BIG Bullsh*t in capital letters could end in people thinking of you as a jingoistic creature of inferior morality and humanity missing any kind of intelligence and ’sapiensis’.
July 15th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
NEON is 100% right.
July 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
No mention was made with regard to the current state of the home: occupied, derelict, abandoned, etc. Cops taking unnecessary risks out of professional zeal, etc., and sustain severe injuries cost the city/state/county huge sums of money. Your money. Apart from the money, it is also in the cop’s best interests that he/she is discouraged from being a hero, when there is no need to be a hero.
For example, a cop in London, chasing a petty thief across rooftops, fell through a rotten section and got his back broken. After lengthy court proceedings he was begrudgingly awarded a few thousand (£)pounds and a disability allowance. Had the thief fallen through the roof, he could easily have sued for a million or more, with the added bonus of international press coverage predicated on police brutality, etc. ‘I wouldn’t have broke me back if the cop had let me go, your Honour, as is me Human Rights’, said the thief.
TASER has its problems, but the law–as per the people’s authority–demands that criminals are apprehended and the law applied. If the people also want cops with impeccable ethical standards allied to supreme judgment when confronted by incidents of unknown quality, they better get used to the idea of extremely expensive cops.
July 15th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Charles Smyth says;
“No mention was made with regard to the current state of the home: occupied, derelict, abandoned, etc”
Not true Charles.
Being a skeptical person by nature, i clicked on the link to the original story..on that page i saw a video of the original newscast as aired by KPRC [houston].
Ryan Korsgard reports from the scene… he says ” you can see it is a vacant house…” and yeah it certainly appears vacant..and has been obviously vandalized.
Regarding the safety of tasers …….here is a link to a site that records “taser deaths”.
there are over 360 deaths recorded here.
truthnottasers.[space] blogspot.com[space] /2008/04/what-follows-are-names-where-known dot
html
[ this site doesn't seem to like to publish links.. i posted two links 8 hours ago and they have yet to appear.. sorry.]
Also, it may be of interest to some folks that Taser International sues and harasses coroners who dare rule a taser shot as the cause of death.
from azcentral dot com:
Judge rules for Taser in cause-of-death decisions
by Robert Anglen – May. 2, 2008 07:28 PM
The Arizona Republic
Taser International has fired a warning shot at medical examiners across the country.
The Scottsdale-based stun gun manufacturer increasingly is targeting state and county medical examiners with lawsuits and lobbying efforts to reverse and prevent medical rulings that Tasers contributed to someone’s death.
That effort on Friday helped lead an Ohio judge’s order to remove Taser’s name from three Summit County Medical Examiner autopsies that had ruled the stun gun contributed to three men’s deaths.
“We will hold people accountable and responsible for untrue statements,” Taser spokesman Steve Tuttle said earlier this week. “If that includes medical examiners, it includes medical examiners.”Many medical examiners, who are charged with determining the official causes of death, view the Scottsdale-based company’s efforts as disturbing, the spokesman for the National Association of Medical Examiners says.
“It is dangerously close to intimidation,” says Jeff Jentzen, president of the National Association of Medical Examiners. “At this point, we adamantly reject the fact that people can be sued for medical opinions that they make.”
read the entire article:
azcentral.com/news/articles /2008/05/02/20080502 taser0503 dot html
Infowars is a very good site for info… still, a skeptical person should really take the time to check what is posted here… or anywhere else.
Alex wants it that way.
peace.
July 16th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Very true, Neon. Here’s the working URL for the article you cited.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/.....r0503.html
July 16th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Charles:
thanks so much for the working link.
Did you use Tiny Url?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Neon: Didn’t know about ‘tiny url’, but have checked it out. In this case the full url pasted in okay, and Infowars did the rest