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Manufacturing Jobs Drop To Lowest Level Since 1941
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Carpe Diem
August 21, 2009
August 21, 2009
Manufacturing employment in the U.S. peaked in June 1979 with 19,553,000 jobs (data here), and by July of this year manufacturing employment had fallen to 11,817,000, the lowest level of manufacturing jobs since April 1941 (see chart above).
As a percent of the total labor force, manufacturing employment fell below 9% in July (see chart below), the lowest level in BLS history (back to 1939).
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August 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Hmmm so it peaked during WWII?
patrick Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
yeah i was thinking, so they’ll pull the economy out by either going to war with some pre-picked bastard yahoo’s, or they’ll clamp down here via swine-flu which will bring martial law which will bring a restructuring which will bring you N.A.U. but what do i know i just read and think…
four life Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Who is left to go to war with, a war that will not last 2 to 3 weeks of bomb runs then some clean up but a 2 to 3 year war for them to make real money off of.
Russia – they like selling oil and eating KFC to much
China – We are already slaves to them
North korea – Just drop some candy bars on their starving population and they’ll give up
How about another civil war no nukes will be used on home land, hmm that might work
great Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
If they are including fast food as manufacturing we are in deep trouble! I think a few years ago they started calling fast food manufacturing.
justme Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
just the patty-flippers. the order-takers are still considered ’service sector’.
wabbsters Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
actually i am pretty sure that when they call fast food manufacturing they really mean manufacturing. When i was driving truck i was dispatched to a few Mcd’s food manufacturing plants. the one i will never forget and the reason i don’t eat fast food anymore is a plant that is in the northwest, i can’t name it. That plant made mcfries, tanker trucks were brought in with “renderings”, soybeans, and other byproducts. I have been to a lot of plants and this smelled worse than the paper plant in new mexico. My wife was with me and she became extremely sick while we were waiting for our load. the smell was a cross between dead animals and rotten putrid fat. It was the most disgusting thing we have encountered. I once cleaned out a water trough with a cow dissolved in it and this plant was worse.
The reason fast food is cheap is because it isn’t food.
Highlanderess Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Give them time…soon they’ll probaly have robots doing the flipping.
Gone Baby Gone Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
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Seal Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
I will add here that “good-ole” US steel was always the best! Even better than Germany, maybe also better than any!
Then along came the J-A pan companies also other Asian foreign imports, remember the song “Eat yer import”? well the threads strip far easier, etcetera et al with “import” parts especially steel!
Seal Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Too bad the US steel magnates, former, were not more adept to voice-ing objections to 1913 Jeckyl Island Experiment. Etc.
RJB Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 12:56 am
“… that the rights and interests of the individual
must always give way to those of the public.”
Unbelievable!
He goes on and on to epsouse the highest and noblest sound principles, only to use these truths in the end to sell the lie of COLLECTIVISM, where the individual has no rights, only “the public” does, and WHO is “the public”? It is the government, of course, the same controlled by the corporations.
What he was doing is using all the great sounding rhetoric, to convince us that basically, the system we have right now, corporate fascism, is the best one there is, or ever could be.
Got to watch out for these shysters, candy coating the poison pill.
Seal Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 pm
“…percent of labour force…” peaked, but manufacturing jobs fell since the 1981 depression again, otherwise mislabelled “recession” another play on words just like calling one world government world “governance” to mislead dummies and TV addicts…
So, in closing, remember percent of workforce, peaked at WW2 and number of manufaturing jobs peaked in 1981.
scourge Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
seriously….what the hell are we going to do……. the people cannot just go down without a fight……
August 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Because of unions. Outsourcing is cheaper. Keep letting your taxes get higher and higher. You don’t care.
hmmm Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Unions? Really? From the first chart the really big drop started in 2001 after Bush Jr. took office. What union was he in? NAFTA, GATT and the WTO, most favored nation status for China have nothing to do with it? It goes way beyond the unions, soon all tech jobs and data processing jobs will be completely moved out to India too.
justme Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
we started losing our manufacturing base 35 years ago.
hmmm Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
yes we did. don’t misunderstand me, i am not laying this solely at bush jr.’s feet, i was saying that was when it really accelerated, even though as “Great” pointed out hamburger assembly was grouped in with manufacturing. dropping of tariffs on imports because of WTO membership as well as providing tax incentives for companies to move offshore is both the fault of the republicans and the democrats. both parties blame each other as they continue to pass legislation to encourage it and the idiots keep voting for them while braying and clapping like trained seals to their lies.
hmmm Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 9:37 pm
whoops, make that wanted to make hamburger assembly grouped int
RJB Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 12:58 am
We didn’t “lose” our manufacturing base, we know exactly where it is. It was sold off to China and other select parts of the third world.
David PK Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Hate to disagree with ya BOSS . But , if you noticed ( you have to be at least 30 years old , or a good
student of recent history ) jobs started screaming out of our borders AFTER the unions were busted . Who WAS always touted as the number one consumer of manufactured products in the world ? AMERICANS !!!!!!! You have to make money to spend money . That is why Henry Ford raised his factory workers wages to an unprecedented level . When asked why he said ” they have to make enough to
by my cars ” . Labor costs has been the lie to justify OUTSOURCING . Amazing isn’t it , that it is always
the low end of labor that is the problem . 30 line workers benefits and all do not add up to 1 executive’s
expenses or bonuses . Every major company that has failed ( including the hospital that I just left ) has been bled dry by overpaid and overcompensated executives . Not to mention the fact that their work to
employee ratio is considerably lower than a laborer . Unions were one of the few leverages that the
working man had . It also made non-union companies compete with union wages for employees .
Every state that has approved the Right -to Work , union busting laws has seen a decline in wages
all around . None of them have seen an influx of jobs , like they were promised . OUTSOURCING WAS
NEVER ABOUT COSTS . IT WAS ABOUT DRIVING THE STANDARD OF AMERICAN LIFE DOWN TO A THIRD
WORLD COUNTRY !!!!!!!! Poorer countries are easier to manipulate and control .
level6 Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I am a union member,and though I cant believe the nwo bulls--- and “democratic” party propaganda that they peddle at both meetings and “the UA journal”- a union pipetrades newsletter, its not the unions fault. the unions have their policies that I cant stand….but the issue of removal of US jobs to foreign countries has nothing to do with paying the american worker a good wage, it is all about lowering the US standard of living to the point that the people will accept any work at all just to get by and put food on the table. “a hungry man cares not for freedom”— B.Franklin
level6 Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
as a side note…. the union work itself has completley changed from only 10 yrs ago. Ive worked in the huge vegas casinos, skyscrapers in chicago, military bases, and hospitals . never once have I needed a background check to work in any of these facilities (or drug test) but recently the oil refineries and other infrastructure developments demand full bkgrnd checks – not criminal checks–civil checks. if youve had a dui…EVER…..no job. late on your child support…no job. if youve had ANYTHING on your record … no job. bring your hunting rifle on the property (most refineries in the midwest are very near public hunting land and many tradesmen are hunters)—literally they can and will charge you with terrorism. in the orientations for these jobs(4hrs), they bring up the 911 attacks at LEAST 20 times, saying how theyre (al-ciaduh) out to get us and how badly the terrorists want to blow up bridges or refineries. most all of the tradesmen sit there and nod their f---in heads like “yup – were protectin merica” it makes me want to puke. I wish more of these guys would get their heads out of their ass put the big boy pants on.
RJB Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 1:03 am
A U.C. Davis Agricultural study found that the labor cost of producing a head of lettuce is only about 5-7 cents per head. The rest is the profit margins of all the middle men on the way to your salad bowl. But that doesn’t stop pro-illegal alien supporters from claiming that if American farm workers were paid enough money to attract more to those jobs, that the price of a head of lettuce would skyrocket to $5 a head. Truth is, we could double the wages of farm workers producing lettuce, attract more Americans to that work, and the price of your salad would only go up a few cents.
fersure Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
sure it’s unions, but the teachers union or the municipal workers union, that’s about 80% of what’s left of the union workforce
hmmm has got it right, where the jobs go so goes the research and development. The NWO needs to “harmonize” wages and economy before the merger can be successfully integrated.
Make no mistake this is by design.
In order to be a 1st world country you have to be able to make steel, meaning you have ability to manufacture. Of 190 countries only about 30 can make steel. Of these 30 the USA ranks 28 in science and 29 in math. They educate 12 months a year in India, while you think your kid and school district is doing well, on the world stage we rate far behind the eight ball. Hire an HB-1 engineer or chemist, or software design for 2/3 of US wages.
August 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
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August 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Doesn’t surprise me. The only jobs are all government positions.
http://www.Vote3rdPartyNow.org
August 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
And—, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t fast food jobs get included under the manufacturing umbrella a few years back? See here-
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....1336.shtml
I don’t know if that was done in this study, hope not.
Altered States Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Good memory. Bush made that change in an effort to pad the numbers so people couldn’t see what was happening.
Point the anger at the government. The pentagon’s budget is responsible for the crushing debt and the subsequent tax burden.
medical fraud is another source of waste. The medical billing system is so complex and indecipherable to anyone outside the industry that you don’t know what you are getting billed for or why. 10 dollars for band-aids and 30 dollars for phlem disposal cloths, (kleenex)
They tried to bill 300 dollars me for x-rays which were never taken.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Just think all those worthless man hours gone to waste just for a dam war, should have put the efforts into space travel or something——-then maybe make like a baby and head out! ha.
August 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
I blame globalisation for much of this.
Manticore Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Indeed, but it’s a basic and expected thing to happen in a changing market. As a Post-Doc in Economics and Finance, people have a problem of not being able to change with the market.
They feel they will have this job forever, as they don’t see changes that science and tech have on the world and the way things are completed. People must learn to become more dynamic and change with the market, so education needs to be increased. But that does not meet education needs more funding. You can have your children home schooled and yearn more then anyone in normal grade school would. Learning needs to be an on-going life experience and activity. I have noticed that people in America don’t like to learn or take education as seriously as someone who came from China or India, and I see this effect in the American Economy.
I do wish people felt that we as humans should work together to research the stars. Not control one another.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
looks like we are a nation of consumers that don’t really produce much
the financial sector has eaten the rest and now its ready to move on and consume what little is left
that means a government job for you, your friends, and family
and govt healthcare for you, govt housing, govt prisons, govt schools, govt SLAVERY
and reinforces why this kid is right….
… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_2X-sOSYY
chicken breath deadly vaccines Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 11:11 pm
glenn beck attacked by crazed obama nut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkvLxFJxi1Y
Dogfood Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 am
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FreedomOfSpeech Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
We need to stop being lazy! We need to print these out EN MASSE and march down mainstreet in every city!
New INSIDE JOB banner that will SURELY get the masses investigating!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4.....otostream/
jmc Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 am
sooo. ? i got it …lets start another war…oooops we haven’t won these other two “yet”well looks like the threat from space should be comming round soon …nasa is being cut back…well i hate nasa but it would be a good excuse to blame our money woes for not spotting the “big” one ….good the yods will have to share the spoils of mega death with apophus….
kwitcherbychin Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Wait it gets better yet jmc, my nephew (in special forces USMC) just left for Georgia (the country, not the state), where our troops are going back to re-train the georgians in combat. If you’re looking for the next war, that might be the place to start.
Olive Farmer Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 am
The de-industrialisation of the West is part of the long term goal of evil
US and UK are about to be plunged into an horrific maelstrom of wickedness
At the same time, as always in a depression, major war will come
The planned calamities are on the agenda of evil
The agenda to de-populate the world
Leaving just mind controlled peasants
Licking clean the rears of the elite and grateful for the chance
WAKE UP
WAKE UP
See what the dream really is
TIME IS VERY SHORT
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1776blues Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Amen, Nation of Consumers, that is our future! But the illegals have plenty of work here at my apartment complex!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
is it just me or is that worken girl smoken?
Ben Dover Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
George, it’s time to get the fleshlight, when you start to see masculine women as ‘hot’, you are either a gross obese ugly male with a little teeny tiny member, or you’re gay.
Contact me and I will help get you through this crisis…
August 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
We all know that globalist have stripped the manufacturing base out of America , and this is why the middle class and our nation is in such free fall decline. And they have done it to alot of other countries as well. Right here is the problem! Get that manufacturing base back here in America NOW!
August 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING. ANYTHING HERE, LET ILLIGALS DO. I am a carpenter. Our gov has “without question” screwed my means to make a fair wage up. Now obama is OK with illigals getting free emergency room visits. I know it already is so BUT a blind man can see its the wrong path to take. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE ILLIGAL. So, I’m not a racist!!! Thank you for being on my side, any politician that is. . . Sincerely, . Struggling patriot carpenter
August 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Russians killed off a good % of thier own pop, so did Germany and China, India and British, French and Spanish. We did it before it our own Civil war. So now to you get the big pitcher.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
This is a dumb article. I’m on board with 95% of the articles on infowars.com but I really don’t see why this is pertinent. It’s called the structural transformation of the economy. Its the postindustrial shifting of jobs from manufacturing to information and service sectors. Don’t blame the NWO, blame the way that economies progress. I’m not saying that it is a good thing, it is debatable to say the least but it has little to do with the NWO and more to do with social stratification. We are an increasingly educated nation, especially since 1941. It’s only natural that as our percentage of educated Americans increases the skills of the labor market change and the jobs change to accommodate a more educated market. This is where the information sector came from. Those who work in the service sector are those who would have worked in the manufacturing sector but there aren’t anymore manufacturing jobs left because we didn’t want them badly enough to keep competitive with countries whose economies are still in the manufacturing stages; like China and India.
M Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
I bet we would see a correlation between the data in this article and our nation’s current unemployment rate. If a correlation does exist, I believe it would be related to the out sourcing of these manufacturing jobs, that most of our country’s unemployed could perform. The changing world economy (”structural transformation of the economy”) of which you speak of is a direct result of our shrinking middle class. The middle class life style of which Americans have enjoyed is unlike anywhere else in this world. The shrinkage of the American middle class is a NWO agenda item. The data in this article should cause concern in all Americans, because it is a reflection of our weakened economy.
Julian Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
The service and office jobs aren’t what sent man to the Moon or anything else that made America dominant. If all the manufacturing jobs are in whatever communist, IMF craphole, then that’s where you will see the scientists and engineers going as well. Having more pencil pushers isn’t going to bring America back to it’s former glory either.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Food, clothing and shelter. The basics. If you’re an American, chances are, you can’t grow your own food, you can’t make you’re own clothes, and you can’t build your own house, or at least fix up your own house. So my question is, who the hell are you? We need to get back to doing jobs like agriculture, manufacturing, and industry. Things like food, transportation, energy, clothing. Things that actually benefit people in physical reality. We still need some service economy jobs, but not so damn many. We need the service economy jobs to be the trades people, like carpenters, plumbers, and electricans. How many more lawyers, accountants, government employees, massage therapists, and restaurant employees do we need? We are a swindle economy. We do each others laundry for a living. We need to have some kind of way to balance out our currency with the rest of the world. We CAN compete in physical reality with the rest of the world if we want to. We can’t compete against the cheap currencies though.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
The first graph isn’t valid because it for non-farm payrolls. Which ties only loosely into the topic. The second one is what counts and it has been steadily going down with time. You could have written an article with the same headline for almost every year since 41 so I don’t see why this is anything noteworthy, its common knowledge.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:25 pm
All manufacturing jobs must go to China: by order from Wal-Mart ownership … and THAT’S A “SLAM DUNK!”.
August 21st, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Join The Texas Militia. Before they start the population Reduction Which more then likely everyone on here is on a list.
aerialup23@yahoo.com
August 21st, 2009 at 8:37 pm
The list…f--- the list…use your neighbors wireless internet and clear your cache every hour. I am sure they can figure it out but try not to say anything to bad.
what wrong with talking about how f---ed we are and trying to give advice if the s--- hits the fan, if it does not, we’ll anyone can see that the patriots will quietly go away.
Why would anyone be dumb enough to contact someone on infowars to join a Militia?
Be smart people, time to get in close small groups and defend your areas.
Trust no one. NO ONE.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
BUTT f---!!!!!!
August 21st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Constrained to wonder how American domestic private sector economy would be doing now for most ordinary people regard-less the manufacturing situation had the republic always had a gold specie system, secure property rights, free international trade per the law of comparative cost & signal lack of artificially long public school indoctrination, direct taxes, regulatory bureaucracy, militarism, imperialism, foreign aid & like marks of subservience to Bank of England.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
We will see!
Dogfood Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 am
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August 21st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I’m sure the same study performed in China would indicate a statistical increase (flip side) in manufacturing jobs as the U.S. has continued to OUTSOURCE practically all of it’s manufacturing labor force to off shore interests. All of our labels in just about everything we buy reveals that the manufacturing occurred off shores. Even General Motors, after accepting all that tax payer bailout money, is currently manufacturing their new GM models in Mexico. The problem is, we (American citizens) continue to allow it.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Been on a list my whole life. Mostly the s--- list.
August 21st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Friends, this is want the Obamas want. It is so ovious, they mean to keep there voting base on the public doll as long as they can, to keep there power. As long as Obama keeps acting like Robin hood, then the more votes they will get in 2010, and 2012…
August 21st, 2009 at 10:57 pm
This is very true. We’ve been a service oriented economy for a while now. Machines have taken the places (and continue to) of most manufacturing jobs.
August 21st, 2009 at 11:06 pm
President Bush included making hamburgers at McDonalds as part of manufacturing. So the stats are skewed again. It has to be lower when you really count durable goods production thats doesn’t include hamburgers as part of manufacturing!
August 21st, 2009 at 11:06 pm
The Government always resorts to War.
So whats about to happen?
Any Psychic predictions?
I feel it in my soul.
do u feel it?
Let me know what u think?
am i crazy?
American Veteran Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
crazy as a loon now go to bed and dont forget your binky
August 21st, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I like the woman in the picture. Is she dead or alive now?
August 21st, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Manufacture guns in your garage. Its not that hard to do.
Reload ammunition.
Grow food.
Its a start.
August 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 am
You dumb s---s drive your Korean car to Walmart and buy Chinese made junk, then you head to the grocer and purchase imported fruits, wines, and cheese, then you go home and slip into your Vietnamese manufactured pajamas, watch your Taiwanese made TV, and you can’t figure out why there are no decent American jobs to be had! DUHHHHH!!!
August 22nd, 2009 at 1:18 am
to keep dropping off as long as our government continues to give in to this treasonous no protectionism bullshyt. Made in America is the only way to go.
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:11 am
Stats aside..
The extraction and or cultivation of useful
things to which value is added and result
in articles of trade is the basis of all
prosperity..
Cutting each others hair (financial or otherwise)
will not get us there
they want to kill us
move manufacturing back on shore,
Throw out the jews and the mexicans.
John
August 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am
People can’t even get hellish factory slave work producing useless / nefarious gadgets anymore !!!
P.S. What is this sorry ass world coming to ?!?
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
for the last ten years poor people in north america have gone without everything
and the middle class and rich have judged them and said they were lazy and ignored them
now they will cry out and not be heard
AMERICA IS A SELFISH SELF CENTERED COUNTRY
and IT DESERVES EVERY DAM THING THATS COMING
welcome to the NEXT DEPRESSION
I am a poor loser single parent but I have three hundred ounces of SILVER
REAL MONEY in my pocket
Highlanderss Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
And that, too, will be worthless someday. Hope it’s worth something in your lifetime.
American Veteran Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
go away loser and spend your silver,what were you one of the lazy ones
gordy three horses Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
300 oz. ain’t jack s--- try 10,000 oz. my friend
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:18 am
And that, too, will be worthless someday. Hope it’s worth something in your lifetime.
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:22 am
M, you need to educate yourself on economics and history before you make statements like these. Manufacturing jobs did NOT leave this country because nobody wanted them. It’s called NAFTA and it was created under the illusion that free trade would create greater foreign demand. A concept that was even less than retarded. No country in history ever grew its own industries without protectionism. It’s a historical fact. Free trade is NOT free. Do the research and you’ll see for yourself.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 am
Im on the list for sure; The powers that be know who I am am and what I stand for. Every time a cop rolls by my house I just laugh to myself. Get ready for the collapse of our economy and the swine flu, go down in a blaze like a true patriot and make your familes proud. They will remember you when its all over. Start groups and assemble in numbers, im starting a “we are change” chapter in Atlanta, do so wherever there is not one.
John Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
don’t worry, a few of them are friends..
be sure to not identify those to their putative ‘fellows’
thereby avoiding fratricide, and you get to keep a good’un
John
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 am
Want to know why you are SCREWED? Eugenics – the elimination of those deemed inferior or undesirable for the purpose of allowing the superior and desirable to thrive. America has practiced this for the past 35 years through abortion. If a baby is desired, the woman is pregnant with a baby. If the baby is not wanted, she will go have the baby – er… blob of tissue butchered and discarded. Planned Parenthood was founded in America by a devoted believer and promoter of eugenics who wanted, for one thing, to eliminate the black population. She has been extremely successful at instilling this eugenics mindset to such an extreme that millions of mothers will now butcher their own children. A law of life that is as irrevocable as the law of gravity is the law of sowing and reaping. When they come to kill you there will be no argument against stopping the plan. YOU will be as undesirable as the unborn baby and will be considered a blob to be discarded. I hope they don’t slice us to pieces, suction our limbs off, burn us with toxic compounds and suck the brains out of our heads while we are still alive like we have done to over 50 million babies.
John Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 am
We are only ‘Screwed’ if these sick puppies get their wish.
They are screwed if (when) they get (got) caught trying..
I have a dog in this race, how about you?
John
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
In 1991 I took a business course at a major University, I believe it was Business and Politics. A lot of the course focused on the types of jobs in post industrial America. It was said that we were going to be shifting to an almost purely service based economy. That was almost 20 years ago. I do believe the shift has happened. It’s something we knew was going to happen.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
American towns and cities have been devastated by the greedy corporate entities on wallstreet who derive substantial profits on the misery of 3rd world slave labor. Look at your towns and cities and see how they have decayed due to the loss of manufacturing jobs. The thugs in the corporate world have joined forced with the thugs in our government to make this happen. On top of this greed, these crooks have been given billions of our tax payer dollars to preserve their evil enterprise.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
Remember that “Giant Sucking Sound?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZOXWNXOpjw
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
More on NAFTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....eature=fvw
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Americans need to focus more on education rather than worrying about manufacturing jobs. I agree that there only needs to be so many lawyers, accountants, etc., but even more troubling than losing the manufacturing jobs is the fact that places like India and China are on pace to surpass the U.S. in the percentage of their population with bachelor’s degrees and dwarf the U.S. in the percentage of the population with math, science, and engineering degrees. That’s the real trouble. We’ll start losing the information and technology jobs because there won’t be enough competent workers in the U.S. to satisfy the demand. If your kid is looking for career advice, tell him/her to be an engineer, scientist, or a statistician. I guess the problem with that is that a college degree is becoming unaffordable.
August 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I completely agree with Bill. Education is key at this point in time. On that point, I’ve recently come across an organization that’s promising education on a key issue for most of us. Wealth production adn protection. If anyones interested in checking it out, contact me at dmg-roller@hotmail.com, and I’ll let you know where to go and what to do.
August 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Its all in China. Read in a magazine that the Chinese average 65 cents an hour while the U.S. averages 21.00 an hour.
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
In the psalms David quoted My Lord said to My Lord sit thou at my right hand til i make thine enimies your foot stool. This is a prophecy about the Lord Jesus who died and rose again and sits at the right hand of the Father. He is interceeding for those whom the Father give to Him. All thoses who call upon His name and give HOnor to what He has done. a substitute. A blood letting gift for thoses who need a precious saviour. The King of Kings. Risen and conquored death for us who believe. The third woe and scorching sun is a good web site for the returning King. Gods magnificient salvation plan will last in the world til He comes again at the last trumpet. Maybe very soon. Turkey becaume a muslim country in 2002. Trust Him for all your needs. Give all for the King and help all.
Your reward is very great in Heaven. God thinks of you as HIS child. CAll HIM ABBA FAther today.
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August 22nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
The loss of most of our manufacturing base is one of the main reasons for the decline of America today. The elites knew what they were doing many years ago with all these stupid-ass “free trade” agreements which they said would stimulate trade and create millions of new jobs. What it really did was make the snobs at the top even richer while screwing the working class people who are still searching for that American dream. The agreements basically gave companies the green light to outsource millions of decent paying jobs once held by Americans overseas to countries like China which is a Communist dictatorship and whose workers work for far less than Americans and don,t get any benefits that you see here. They also succeeded in breaking the backs of many of the labor unions. Not all unions are good and some are actually a racket themselves. But unions became necessary when some employers abused their workers with low pay, long hours, and dangerous work conditions. This destruction of manufacturing also has ominous overtones for the nation,s future should we get into another major war and need to crank up war materiel production. So if we go to war with China, I don,t think that Uncle Sam or the corporate boobs are going to get a lot of productivity out of their Chinese facilities( not for our side anyway).
gordy three horses Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
they don’t care about any side, they care about making money.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
im not that old, but i can remember in the early eighties when sam walton ran wal-mart, they advertised most of their products as “made in the usa” and they prided themselves on that….
something has fundamentally changed in america. i think we should outsource wall street and the politicians to the guilliotine. im dead serious, if we dont take action now, well settle for notrhing later.
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
dirty rotten so and so’s I cant stand when a government keeps lying to you.
I visit http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com/news regularly and he has been spot of for ages now…they have set us up
bernanke two step continues…..these greedy bankers have what is coming
August 22nd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
of course mfg figures are gone. we dont make anything here anymore.
no industry,no economy.
and,”service economy”,they say? NO. THAT has no meaning to me. its not real.
we are all fu**ed.
August 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 am
If you’re reading my posts before they get deleted, then good for you. You may learn something.
Now, the next step after we are all going to university to make minimum wage is that we will be replaced by robots. I mean in terms of jobs. The distant future, say, in about 50 years will be like the movie The Terminator, with machines hunting us down. The difference will be that the machines will be controlled by men, unlike the movie where the whole robot army is completely autonomous. And this is all if we don’t succeed. Nothing is set in stone. But the part about needing to go to university to make minimum wage is, I assure you, going to be a reality. Don’t worry, Bill Gates and the like will still make millions of dollars per minute. Everything for Bill Gates. Basically, one man gets it all and billions starve. Nothing new there. That’s been going on for a long time.
Anyway, moderator, I’ve said what I have to say. You can delete my comment now.
PS – If I were you, I would start saving for your child’s education, because like I said, they are going to need a university education to sweep the floor at McDonald’s for minimum wage. It’s not what I want. I’m just telling you what I know. You can take this and prepare, or you can ignore it at your peril. Good day.
August 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 am
How come the price of oil is going up?
August 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 am
http://www.veoh.com/browse/vid.....8FbFTeyjZ#
New World Order Movie
You must see
August 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 am
The west has not deindustrialised, but industry has not expanded to avoid the outcome of a zero sum game, for the majority of labour, which is much more plentiful than in the 1940s, for instances of industry which have long ago matured: Steel making, car manufacturing, etc. As of now, the US is moving towards a model where those with high-level skills are employed in centres of high earning and innovation, and those with lesser skills, are employed in the service sector. For instance, many university campuses, are more akin to a self-contained town, so as to service foreign demand for a western education in consort with the values of a western lifestyle, but without an exposure to real and/or perceived risk, as they pay up to €120,000, for a degree.
August 23rd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Brothers & Sisters get this & use it to make t-shirts, fliers & whatever you want to do with it but just show it to the world: http: http://farm4.static.flickr.com.....00.jpg?v=0
August 23rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The ‘I’ve got mine’ unionism of the UAW and AFL that poured their members dues into the NAFTA supporting Clintons and Obama are getting what they paid for…Let me hear you say it,
A–H-LES!!…”YES, WE CAN!!” Say it again !…. “YES, WE CAN!”.
Fat trough feeding monkeys! You sold out the labor movment and now the chickens are coming home to roost…Go to China and get a job with General Motors! Enjoy the benefits of the free trade that YOU supported! What kind of dumb animals would support candidates that supported shipping their jobs abroad?–the UAW!!….”YES, WE CAN!”…Enjoy the magnificent urban environment that Big Unionism and Big Business built…DETROIT!….”YES, WE CAN!!”
August 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
The economy does not improve untill the war machine stops and capacity is directed towards more usefull persuits.
August 24th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Factories are empty. All machines sent to China?
Want a job? Get a Chinese visa! Right?
There will be no recovery except working for the police state.
Those not employed will have to be eliminated.
See the two movies “Soylent Green” and “Logan’s Run”
that future is around the corner.
Visit http://www.mininova.org and download them.
I use the free VLC player – its the best.