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Massachusetts may consider a mileage charge
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GLEN JOHNSON
The Associated Press
February 18, 2009
A tentative plan to overhaul Massachusetts’ transportation system by using GPS chips to charge motorists a quarter-cent for every mile behind the wheel has angered some drivers.
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“It’s outrageous, it’s kind of Orwellian, Big Brotherish,” said Sen. Scott Brown, R-Wrentham, who drafted legislation last week to prohibit the practice. “You’d need a whole new department of cronies just to keep track of it.”
But a “Vehicle Miles Traveled” program like the one the governor may unveil this week has already been tested , with positive results , in Oregon.
Governors in Idaho and Rhode Island, as well as the federal government, also are talking about such programs. And in North Carolina, a panel suggested in December the state start charging motorists a quarter-cent for every mile as a substitute for the gas tax.
“The Big Brother issue was identified during the first meeting of the task force that developed our program,” said Jim Whitty, who oversees innovation projects for the Oregon Department of Transportation. “Everything we did from that point forward, even though we used electronics, was to eliminate those concerns.”
A draft overhaul transport plan prepared for Gov. Deval Patrick says implementing a Vehicle Miles Traveled system to replace the gas tax makes sense. “A user-based system, collected electronically, is a fair way to pay for our transportation needs in the future,” it says.
Patrick, who had yet to settle on any of the ideas contained in the draft, told reporters last week, “I like any idea that is faster, cheaper, simpler.”
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February 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.
Mr. Bo Jangles Reply:
February 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!
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YOU CAN USUALLY TELL WHO THEY ARE BY THE AUTHORITATIVE TONE THEIR REPLYS TAKE.
THEY ARE USUALLY THE FIRST TWENTY OR SO BLOGGERS TO DISTORT THE TRUTH.
THEY USE A VARIETY OF TACTICS, SUCH AS:
CHANGING THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. AGREEING WITH THE CHANGE AND CONTINUING THE SAME CHANGE.
THEIR REPLYS ARE USUALLY VEHEMENT AND AUTHORITATIVE IN NATURE.
THEY CHANGE THEIR NAMES IN ORDER TO MAKE MULTIPLE ENTRYS IN ORDER TO SHOW NUMEROUS NEGATIVE REPLYS IN AN ATTEMPT TO DISSUADE THE READER.
THEY TRY TO DISCREDIT OTHERWISE RELIABLE SOURCES.
I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE. SEE IF YOU CAN SPOT THEM.
oldnamvet Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Yea all the listed above traitors groups can kiss my ass,we outnumber you and you better be worried assholes.
The Duke Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
who gives a crap, f-ck them ever here of some thing called freedom of speach we have a right to our opinion, thats the American way, and f-ck the mossad, they are not running anything here. have some guts dude, or the mossad boggy man will get you “boo”, and the alphabet soup boys. there’s millions of listners and thousands of bloggers, let them come get us, we’ll see them in court. unless your dumb ebough to make direct threats, other wise they can all eat a sh-t sandwich for all I care.
Boston Revolutionairy Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TOa8c9gqY
masterkyiron Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 4:20 am
http://www.healthfreedom.org dr laibow needs you to sign fast!farmers under attack from monsanto!obamas criminals sign bill in 2 weeks,hurry
February 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
THE GOVERNMENT AND THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE TO RIP US OFF FOR EVERY CENT BEFORE THEY ‘ELIMINATE’ US.
February 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Bugging and profiling everyone’s movement is cheaper and simpler than to just tax the gas?!
17th Century Illuminati Reply:
February 18th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Problem is this is a flat rate. They’ll impliment it, than gas will go way up, and what do you know, the people are taking it in the shoots again
Boston Revolutionairy Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TOa8c9gqY check this out tyvm
February 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
THEY MUST BE STOPPED…. THEY ARE FOREIGN, ILLEGITIMATE, CORPORATE BANKSTERS WHO HAVE HIJACKED OUR ECONOMY, OUR CONSTITUTION & OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY!! ARE OUR FAMILIES NEXT?! (FEMA CAMPS) HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE GOING TO TAKE!! THEY WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY MEET SOME FORM OF RESISTANCE!! “GO TIME” IS NEAR!!
February 18th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I’d have thought that the ‘mass-holes’ would have gotten wise by now, and gotten the hell out of ‘tax-a-chusetts’. I guess they’re as stupid as ever! But it’s not much better anywhere else in Amerika, though..we’re running out of places to which we can run. Nevertheless, “I shall finish the game”.
Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
oldnamvet Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 12:38 am
This is the state that put in kennedys and barny frank,like every year for years now.I dont feel for Mass St liberal f---s who voted for obama you can count on it.
John Henke Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 2:38 am
That’s right. They get what they diserve!
Boston Revolutionairy Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TOa8c9gqY watch this tyvm
jeepndesert Reply:
February 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm
carla howell and michael mccloud almost defeated the state income tax in tax-us-chusettes. carla howell also had pretty poll results running against teddy kennedy.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
How about just raise the gas tax, as much as I hate to say it. Why spend all the money to set up a system, oh wait we are talking about the gov’t silly me.
JP Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 9:38 am
The Governor, in addition to the GPS tracking, is also considering a $.27 gas tax and a $7 hike for the I-90 Masspike. In reality he’ll get at least $.15 after all is said and done and the pike is still up in the air. I should add the daunting task of insuring, registering, inspecting, and taxing your vehicle in this state is no easier than getting a gun permit.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
tax-a-chusetts’ sucks but theres is no where to run and i wont run imma go down with the ship and hope my fellow men and women wake up and stand up aganist this bulls---
February 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
The big picture, it starts with the N.W.O. aka (bansters) Working with the U.N. wish pushes Adgenda 21, Adgenda 21 is pushed heavly at every local government and C.O.G. (counsel of government) Thus we get Sustainable Development. Sustainable Development is apart of the North American Union plan for Judge Dread style megacities where everyone is in a few cities and the banksters controll all the other resources. Now with the North American Union we get the Trans Texas Corridor which everyone says is dead, It Certainly is NOT! They have broken the corridor into Countys because the local government is easier to manhandle. Thus we are getting tollroads (which are on already existing roads) and railways (which well be subsidized by you guessed it more taxes). This milliage tax helps pay for all the tollroads and railways to be built which will tax us even more.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Learn more about agenda 21 at educatorsofliberty
February 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I wonder how much thimerasol one has to be injected with in order to see these Orwellian schemes as positive and beneficial. I’m gonna have to eat some shark fin to get my mercury levels up to the norm.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
a video on agenda 21 and the elimination of the private vehicle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YCLzlpDlw
February 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
And such GPS devices can be defeated with a GPS jammer.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
They don’t care about your money, They want to track you. If you wont accept a chip up your A$$ then they will prevent you from traveling. They got you and every body whines. Take your Prozac and sleep people. Its only the beginning of the end. HALE THE NWO
JP Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Correct, If you don’t want it on your car you’ll have to remove or refuse the state inspection sticker. Without it you cannot legally drive in the state. You’ll also have to consider if this is implemented you may be double taxed while driving on the toll road.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
another atack to the privacy of an individual by the rutheless elite
February 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
In Massachusetts
Devils Advocate Reply:
February 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
My condolences. Unfortunately Mass. is so populated with dimwitted dips--- liberal Obama ball lickers and Al Gore disciples, that all the state hookers have to do is sell the plan as “environmentally friendly”. The majority of Prius driving, latte sipping cocksuckers will gladly bend over and take it in the pooper. It’ for the earth, after all.
Paul from JP Reply:
February 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
If you had ever spent any time in Boston you would know that most of the liberal whining mass are transplants from other parts of this country. Or they grew up in Newton, Brookline or Cambridge. Liberals growing up going to Boston City schools, not likely!
February 18th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
ain’t nothin good ever come outa boston since the revolution…..tea anyone?
Devils Advocate Reply:
February 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Can I get an “amen”? AMEN!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
just like germany did build up its transport network for war and fast prosess of goods ? we are so in trouble with only the weapons we know they have…. imagine what they have got in store for us sure going to be bad finding out but what the heck i allways was a scifi fan now i will get a chance to see they latest scifi weapons up close and personal like
February 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Everybody has a God given right to drive.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Steve your right. But they tell us its a privelage
February 18th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
No you are not. Alex wastes an enormous amount of program time on advertising that masquerades as news. Most of his listeners probably can’t even afford gold for chrissake! Or $1,000+ water filters.
westridge44 Reply:
February 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
ALL of his sponsors are incredibly expensive… E-foods direct is the MOST expensive storable food brand by far, you will save thousands if you dry your own, or even buy your dried food in bulk from natural food store.
You can get the same water filters that they sell on the show, just a different brand for around $50 at REI.
..and you can go to the grocery store, or the nursery and buy some non-hybrid, heirloom seeds for about $1 a pack, with each packet containing 50+ seeds.
I can’t afford anything that they sell on the aj show, but I can go to my stores and get the same stuff for literally 1000% less.
There’s also that one company that sells military supplies by claiming things like the old military surplus stores don’t exist anymore, when the fact of the matter is that they are everywhere still, and much, much, much cheaper.
I understand that he needs sponsors, but I would much rather hear small grassroots companies advertise on his show instead of these big rip-off corporate companies.
The 5-star soap is cheap though, and really does work. The show just needs more sponsors like that.
The majority of his listeners are in their 20’s and can’t afford the overpriced bs.
John Henke Reply:
February 20th, 2009 at 12:29 am
I just come here to see what I can post before the FBI comes knocking.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
just like white destroyer, first make red man drive your motor carriage then charge more tax to do so, my grandfather..tokesnpot , warned me of day white man charge mileage based carbon tax to drive iron horse in tonapeke land, and that it would result in nothing.thats good white man for you, exploit his children, he pay you more money to stick debt fork up own ass
February 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
give me a friggin break what next a meter yuo where on your mouth and they tax you by the breath. if you cant afford it you die same with fuel if you live in maine you usually have to commute anywhere from 30 to 90 minutes one way to work people here wont survive and i doubt its any different anywhere else. keep up the fight everyone. god bless
February 18th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
If they impose this,do like the french,everybody stays home until these animals stop the project,let s close everything,offices,store ,public services,schools,they did this to pooping-dog-Sarkozy and he is less arrogant with them…by the way,GPS and rfid can be blocked easily with metal foil….
February 18th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
GPS devices can also be easily defeated with a hammer.
February 19th, 2009 at 8:47 am
It just gets nuttier.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Satalite track and tax you vehical, you will get computer generated ticket for any veryence in the law, sent conveniently to your house, you wont deal with a court but customer service. The Real I.D. chips are R.F.I.D. tracker chips if you had 4 passingers in you card and the cops only read 3, you are going to get pulled over for suspicion, now the cops have probable cause to jack you and your buddys, because the patrol car R.F.I.D. reader only showed 3. Now ask yourself is this the world you want to live in or are you going to reject this terrany. America don’t buy into this scheem, if the wont plate you car unless you get this garbage, make your own plate, brand your horse’automobile, I have done this before and drove for years, with out hassle, Americans must stop this in its begining stages, the roads are already wired for it, tell the states and the feds to
f-ck off, with their blood sucking
February 19th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TOa8c9gqY watch this
February 19th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Why anyone in his/her right mind would live in that crap-hole of Mass. is beyond me. Er,,,,,,,,,,,,,,better idea, stay there, that way you will not infect the rest of the sane states!
February 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
When I think of Mass. I think of gun control. Speaking of which, if you want a good laugh, check out the single shot dorky looking “California Legal” AR 15’s. Govvernment guns,what a joke.
February 20th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Are you stupid or what? Don’t f---ing drive anywhere that isn’t important. Don’t spend unless it is for food. Stop making this s--- worse, f--- em in their wallets. We consume, that what we do!
Don’t consume, produce for yourself. It will be too late to stand against anything in just a few short months. Or, option “B” be a slave to debt from the trillions of dollars stolen from us.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
So let me get this straight, instead of a gas tax, we will not have a mileage tax. Who paid for this bill? The gas tax IS a mileage tax. Think about it- they would lose money. If you have an SUV- you spend more on gas to go 100 miles than somone with a Pruis. The onlyreason they would do this is to sell more gas guzzlers (by removing the gas tax) and tax more efficient vehicles who do not need gas. Is the alternative energy or electric car coming? This is a huge violatin of privacy as well. Why is a GPS needed, they can just look and record the odomoter during inspections- there is absolutely no reason for this tax, or the gps. No reason unless the intention is to start cheap, and raise it like they did income tax. I wonder if big oil is behind this-
BTW 4 bucks o gallon of gas killed the US auto industry-
February 20th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
The gas tax is a mileage tax. And here is the kicker, if people drive less cause gas gets more expensive, the tax on the mileage woudl also decrease. This bill makes no sense. I sell cars all day long, there are strict laws around fiddling with odomoters- why are those laws good enough but now we need a gps? Will jewish people need to have a gps on their vehicle too? Will car owners have to wear a yellow star?
February 21st, 2009 at 2:07 am
Whoever thought this tax up should be shot.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:52 am
yeah chem trails are awesome those are the bad ones right the silky spider web that falls from the sky, hey you feel sick now oh no.
yes atilla shoot the guy.
yes charge us for breathing ok, charge us for driven k , soon they charge us for haven sex,
they will tell us when we can get it on!
gps and tracker system yeah it sucks haven that new challenger, and i cant escape the cops cause they know where i go hahaha! nic car tho damn!
yes too many ads consume consume. but yeah all this tax people will be like f--- you, im liven in the bush now….
i know a friend who lives in a shack out of town in the bush, he grows pot, and all his food.
he makes pipes out of clay fires them and sells em. yes this free electricity and water out of thin are and the seed bank and other is cool.
February 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
there is no reason for this. gas taxes is more than an adequate means because it also charges out-of-state drivers.
this is pure big brother.
February 24th, 2009 at 7:13 am
$0.025 per mile.
$1.00 = 400 miles
$10.00 = 4,000 miles
Isn’t Boston supposed to be one of the worst cities for traffic and congestion?
After all, The Tunnel was the largest public works project in US history.
Aren’t you glad they aren’t charging per minute?
February 24th, 2009 at 7:14 am
oops.
$0.0025 per mile
BenRod Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 7:29 am
ALSO…
Pruis owner…
If you really own a Prius, don’t you realize that you will be charged per mile?
You will pay the same price for the great State of Mass. as the huge SUV.
So let’s say that you paid $17,000 for your Prius after the eco-credit and rebates and a good 60 month program with 0% APR. You CAN achieve nearly 45 MPG average, but not without going so painfully slow that you are angering the driver behind you…
…who is ME! In my ‘94 Cavalier V6, which doubles your Prius’ displacement, horsepower, and torque, gets 25 MPG average, and I DO NOT GO SLOW!
I paid $1776 for that car with 98k miles on it. My monthly liability insurance for this “junker” is about $21.
How long do you have to drive that Prius before you really reap the benefits?
Forever. Yes, forever. And don’t forget to add in $3000 – $4000 when your batteries die.
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