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Militarizing the “Homeland”: NORTHCOM’s Joint Task Force-Civil Support
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Tom Burghardt
Antifascist Calling
October 11, 2008
Antifascist Calling reported October 6 that nine months prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Donald Rumsfeld signed off on revisions for the Pentagon’s secretive Continuity of Operations Program (COOP).
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Based on a document (AR 500-3) published by the whistleblowing website Wikileaks, it described “all hazards COOP planning” as the mechanism by which “the Army remains capable of continuing mission-essential operations during any situation, including military attack, terrorist activities, and natural or man-made disasters.”
The Wikileaks document is all the more relevant since a September report in Army Times described how the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team (BCT) would be deployed October 1 “under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North,” the “service component” of NORTHCOM.
Since that article appeared September 8, Army Times has done a partial climb-down and now claims that the “non-lethal crowd control package” described earlier for operations in the heimat, “is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.”
But this mendacious claim by Army Times is belied by current political trends in the U.S. Under cover of the “war on terror,” driftnet surveillance and moves toward suppressing dissent, most recently on display when protests during the Democratic and Republican National Conventions were criminalized and organizers were charged with “domestic terrorism” under the Patriot Act, are but the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
Wholesale spying on activists by the Pentagon’s now defunct Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), as well as revelations that State police agencies in Maryland routinely spied on antiwar organizers, shared this information with the National Security Agency and classified them as “terrorists” in government-run databases, are viewed as exemplary means to “keep the rabble in line”–and under wraps, if necessary.
A highly-disturbing report by Christopher Ketchum in the May/June 2008 issue of Radar Magazine, outlined how the top secret Main Core database linked to Continuity of Government contingency planning, “includes dissidents and activists of various stripes, political and tax protesters, lawyers and professors, publishers and journalists, gun owners, illegal aliens, foreign nationals, and a great many other harmless, average people.”
Reporting in July for Salon, investigative journalist Tim Shorrock was told by a source that Main Core is “‘an emergency internal security database system’ designed for use by the military in the event of a national catastrophe, a suspension of the Constitution or the imposition of martial law. Its name … is derived from the fact that it contains ‘copies of the ‘main core’ or essence of each item of intelligence information on Americans produced by the FBI and the other agencies of the U.S. intelligence community’.”
As the historic economic and political crisis gripping capitalism deepens and intensifies, and as stop-gap measures deployed by the U.S. Treasury Department intended to shore-up the crumbling financial sector crash, one by one, “forward thinking” ruling class factions are openly preparing a “Pinochet option” for the American people.
In this context, the militarization of domestic law enforcement is now coupled with the military’s own rapid development and deployment of “non-lethal weapons” systems which inevitably, will be “shared” with civilian police for “crowd control.” As with data mining, DHS spy-satellite surveillance, blanket CCTV coverage of American cities, illegal FBI deployment of infiltrators and provocateurs, “mission creep” by the Pentagon into civil affairs are signs that stronger measures to blunt the crisis may be in the offing. (For more on the Pentagon’s development of NLW’s, see: Antifascist Calling, “‘Non-Lethal’ Weapons: Where Science and Technology Service Repression,” July 8, 2008; and, Antifascist Calling, “The Calmative Before the Storm,” July 12, 2008)
During the recent Vibrant Response exercise at Fort Stewart, Georgia, three units of NORTHCOM’s Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF, pronounced “sea-smurfs”), including two combat units from the 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Army Division and the elite 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade participated in mock drills designed to “coordinate with local governments and interagency organizations such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Federal Emergency Management Agency,” according to a report on U.S. Northern Command News.
Interestingly enough, Fort Stewart is also the site of a top secret NSA listening post that routinely “intercepted and transcribed satellite phone calls of American civilians in the Middle East for the NSA,” according to a whistleblower and former Arab linguist attached to the illegal NSA project, Wired reports.
Code-named “Operation Highlander,” the top secret program was initiated in the wake of the September 11 attacks on orders from the Bush administration. According to Wired,
If the allegations are true, it would seem to indicate that warrantless spying of Americans approved by President Bush following 9/11 expanded rapidly beyond U.S. borders to citizens overseas, notwithstanding United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18, or USSID 18–an NSA rule that bars overseas surveillance of Americans without authorization and probable cause. (Kim Zetter, “Inside Operation Highlander,” Wired, October 10, 2008)
While the ostensible purpose of Vibrant Response was to wargame scenarios where chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive incidents (CBRNE) were launched “in the nation’s heartland,” what other events could trigger the declaration of a “national security emergency,” or even martial law in the U.S.?
As Amy Goodman reported in a column for Democracy Now!
Military participation in domestic operations was originally outlawed with the Posse Comitatus Act in 1878. The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, however, included a section that allowed the president to deploy the armed forces to “restore public order” or to suppress “any insurrection.” While a later bill repealed this, President Bush attached a signing statement that he did not feel bound by the repeal. (”Invasion of the Sea-Smurfs,” Democracy Now!, October 2, 2008)
As I pointed out in my October 6 article, current Army doctrine is heavily-weighted towards contingency planning for “civil disturbances.” While these programs are not new and in fact, plans such as Garden Plot and Cable Splicer have been integral to military doctrine since the late 1960s, what is new–and highly disturbing–is the launch of NORTHCOM’s Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS).
Located at Ft. Monroe in Hampton, Virginia, JTF-CS is described on NORTHCOM’s website as “a subordinate command of U.S. Northern Command, a unified combatant command formed in October 2002 to plan, organize and execute both homeland defense and civil support missions.”
While NORTHCOM claims that JTF-CS would be deployed “only after a Governor requests federal assistance from the President, and after the President issues a Presidential Disaster Declaration,” the Bush signing statement as well as secret annexes in updated Continuity of Government planning documents, National Security Presidential Directive 51/Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20 (NSPD 51/HSPD 20) means, as Commander-in-Chief,
The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. …
Federal Government COOP, COG, and ECG plans and operations shall be appropriately integrated with the emergency plans and capabilities of State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to promote interoperability and to prevent redundancies and conflicting lines of authority. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall coordinate the integration of Federal continuity plans and operations with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to provide for the delivery of essential services during an emergency. (The White House, President George W. Bush, NSPD 51/HSPD 20, May 7, 2007)
It should be kept in mind that top secret annexes of this document have been withheld from Congress, despite repeated requests–and legal oversight requirements–by the House Homeland Security Committee, as Peter Dale Scott reported in March for CounterPunch.
NORTHCOM avers that,
The Primary Federal Agency [PFA] is the federal civilian agency designated to coordinate and direct the government’s response to a disaster or emergency situation. Presidential Decision Directive 39 designated the Federal Emergency Management Agency as the PFA for managing the consequences of CBRNE events. In most instances, FEMA will be the PFA, however, the Federal Bureau of Investigation serves as the PFA for crisis management in events designated as an act of terrorism. Although the JTF-CS supports the PFA throughout a CBRNE consequence management operation, the unit operates within a clear Department of Defense chain of command. (U.S. Northern Command, Joint Task Force Civil Support, FAQ, no date)
In other words, although civilian agencies are the nominal PFA’s during a “disaster or emergency situation,” JTF-CS “operates within a clear Department of Defense chain of command” that begins and ends with the Executive Branch, that is, the President in his role as the leader of the “unitary executive branch” and Commander-in-Chief. Were a “national emergency” of any kind declared by the President, rules governing Continuity of Government operations would place civilian agencies, including “State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure,” under the effective control of the military.
This is clearly delineated in Department of Defense Directive 3025.12 (DoD 3025.12), “Military Assistance for Civil Disturbances (MACDIS)”:
Ensure continuous planning by the DoD Components, both in the Department of Defense and in cooperation with civil government agencies for MACDIS operations that may be required during any time or condition of peace, war, or transition to war, including any national security emergency. …
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The President is authorized by the Constitution and laws of the United States to employ the Armed Forces of the United States to suppress insurrections, rebellions, and domestic violence under various conditions and circumstances. Planning and preparedness by the Federal Government and the Department of Defense for civil disturbances are important due to the potential severity of the consequences of such events for the Nation and the population.
Military resources may be employed in support of civilian law enforcement operations in the 50 States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the U.S. territories and possessions only in the parameters of the Constitution and laws of the United States and the authority of the President and the Secretary of Defense, including delegations of that authority through this Directive or other means.
The primary responsibility for protecting life and property and maintaining law and order in the civilian community is vested in the State and local governments. Supplementary responsibility is vested by statute in specific Agencies of the Federal Government other than the Department of Defense. The President has additional powers and responsibilities under the Constitution of the United States to ensure that law and order are maintained. (”Military Assistance for Civil Disturbances [MACDIS],” Department of Defense Directive, No. 3025.12, February 4, 1994, pp. 1, 3) [emphasis added]
The Executive Branch’s leading role in MACDIS operations are underscored by the following:
Delegations of Authority. The Secretary of Defense shall be assisted in executing his responsibility for MACDIS by the following:
The Secretary of the Army shall be the DoD Executive Agent and shall act for the Secretary of Defense in accordance with this Directive and any supplemental direction or guidance received from the Secretary of Defense. In that capacity, the DoD Executive Agent shall develop planning guidance, plans, and procedures for MACDIS, in accordance with this Directive. The DoD Executive Agent has the authority of the Secretary of Defense to task the DoD Components to plan for and to commit DoD resources, in response to requests from civil authorities under MACDIS. The DoD Executive Agent shall coordinate with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff any commitment of Military Forces assigned to the Combatant Commands.
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shall communicate to the Commanders of the Combatant Commands appropriate guidance issued by the DoD Executive Agent for their compliance with this Directive, and also shall assist the DoD Executive Agent in developing MACDIS planning guidance for all conditions of war or attacks on the United States or its territories. …
For response to domestic terrorist incidents and other purposes, the DoD Executive Agent shall obtain authority from the Secretary of Defense for any employment of U.S. counterterrorism forces. The DoD Executive Agent shall coordinate with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff any request, contingency plan, directive, or order affecting the employment of such forces and, simultaneously, shall provide all applicable information to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict), who provides policy oversight for the Secretary of Defense, in accordance with DoD Directive 5138.3 (reference (h)).
The Secretary of Defense reserves the authority to modify or terminate the Executive Agency established by this Directive if operational needs so require in a particular situation. (MACDIS, op. cit., pp. 5-6)
What those “operational needs” are that might require the Secretary of Defense to “modify or terminate” the “Executive Agency” are not specified in the MACDIS Directive. However, in this regard, it is clear that a leading role of U.S. military “civil disturbance” operations will be assumed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) and not a “Prime Federal Authority,” that is a civilian agency. The JCS will,
In coordination with the DoD Executive Agent, facilitate communications by the DoD Executive Agent with Commanders of Combatant Commands, as appropriate.
Ensure the compatibility of MACDIS plans with other military plans.
Assist in the DoD Executive Agent’s determination of military units and capabilities sufficient for all contingencies of the GARDEN PLOT plan.
Support training for and coordinated evaluation of MACDIS plans and capabilities by the Commanders of the Combatant Commands through exercises or other means, as appropriate. (MACDIS, op. cit., pp. 10-11)
Clearly, NORTHCOM’s Vibrant Response exercise, initiated by the Joint Task Force-Civil Support falls under the broad purview of Garden Plot and other planning “contingencies.” In terms of dealing with a “national security emergency” declared by the Executive Branch under rules governing Continuity of Government operations, DoD 3025.12 describes “civil disturbances” as,
Group acts of violence and disorders prejudicial to public law and order in the 50 States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the U.S. possessions and territories, or any political subdivision thereof. The term “civil disturbance” includes all domestic conditions requiring the use of Federal Armed Forces under this Directive. (MACDIS, op. cit., p. 17)
Would, let’s say, the eruption of mass protests as a result of a stolen presidential election or mass actions as a legitimate and exemplary civilian response to limiting bank withdrawals, a freeze on Social Security payments, a prohibition on strikes or the declaration of a “national security emergency” as a result of prerevolutionary challenges to the legitimacy of federal authority (as took place in Argentina in 2000 during that nation’s economic meltdown) trigger MACDIS and other Continuity of Government operations?
DoD 3025.12 states, “Under reference (r), the terms “major disaster” and “emergency” are defined substantially by action of the President in declaring that extant circumstances and risks justify Presidential implementation of the legal powers in those statutes.” In other words, “extant circumstances” are “defined substantially” by the President. Once triggered by Executive Order, the scope of operations undertaken by the military acting as the enforcement arm of the “unitary executive branch” are virtually unlimited.
Under these rules, martial law, suspension of habeas corpus, indefinite detention would render lawful rules guiding a constitutional republic moot; mere footnotes written on the “blank page” of America’s “new normal,” what Naomi Klein has termed “disaster capitalism.” Klein writes,
A more accurate term for the system that erases the boundaries between Big Government and Big Business is not liberal, conservative or capitalist, but corporatist. Its main characteristics are huge transfers of public wealth to private hands, often accompanied by exploding debt, an ever-widening chasm between the dazzling rich and the disposable poor and an aggressive nationalism that justifies unlimited spending on security. For those inside the bubble of extreme wealth created by such an arrangement, there can be no more profitable way to organize a society. But because of the obvious drawbacks for the vast majority of the population left outside the bubble, other features of the corporatist state tend to include aggressive surveillance (once again, with government and large corporations trading favors and contracts), mass incarceration, shrinking civil liberties and often, though not always, torture. (The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, New York: Metropolitan Books, 2007, p. 15)
Now that the economic bubble for the vast majority of Americans has burst, “shrinking civil liberties” are rushing headlong towards the vanishing point.
While DoD 3025.12 states that “any employment of Military Forces in support of law enforcement operations shall maintain the primacy of civilian authorities,” as noted above JTF-CS “operates within a clear Department of Defense chain of command,” answerable to the President, the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Army as the “DoD Executive Agent for MACDIS.”
Clearly, a “terrorist attack” or “any national security emergency” so designated by the President would trigger MACDIS guidance for “civilian law enforcement operations” and fall under the purview of NORTHCOM and JTF-CS as “a subordinate command” and would play a leading role in responding to “any national security emergency” declared by the President.
Despite the repeal of the “Insurrection Act Rider” to the 2007 Defense Appropriations bill that gave the President sweeping emergency power to deploy the military for any “condition” he might cite, not merely a terrorist atrocity or CBRNE “event,” the Bush “signing statement” reported by Amy Goodman above, effectively nullified Congress’ intent not to give the president carte blanche to station U.S. troops on American streets.
While NORTHCOM insists that JTF-CS, “will not be called upon to help with law enforcement, civil disturbance or crowd control, but will be used to support lead agencies involved in saving lives,” as I have outlined above, citing the DoD’s own documents and Executive Branch National Security Presidential Directives, contingency plans for suppressing “civil disturbance” such as the Garden Plot scenario are, like an iron fist inside a velvet glove, already in place and capable at a moment’s notice of striking the American people.
During these dark times, it is well-worth recalling the sage advice of the great American revolutionary Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
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October 12th, 2008 at 12:13 am
The Hush across the Country is large enough to hear this pen drop. (clink)
October 12th, 2008 at 12:18 am
R U READY?
October 12th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Oh yea? You and what army??
..oops, oh right. Scratch that..
October 12th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Guys…don’t follow that order!!!! Thermal Expansion is inevitable!!! We do NOT need to go there!!! Been There ,Done that bro’!!! STAND DOWN….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stand Down!!! Otherwise “Thermal Expansion” is a consequence!!! Fuck It… It’s ON!!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Alex Jones should mobilize his celebrity supporters to expose
9/11, and these preparations for martial law.
One letter, cosigned by celebrities, would wake up hundreds of
millions of people within days.
The time for hysterical rants is over, let’s reach the sleeping
masses.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:09 am
I have been told by a friend that 250.000 Army Reserves have already been called up because of the economic crisis. This has the potential to get very ugly.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:13 am
Well… This is proof that our Country is going down the Roman Road… The fall of the Republic and the path to an empire. Except this time it is not voluntary. The Corporatist statement is the best. I think it was Mussolini who once said
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power”.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:16 am
When 11Bravo’s start smokin’ their own…WTF Over??? Copy That????????????? Do you “FUCKIN’ COPY That?????????????????????? I’m so Fuckin’ done….WTF are WE to do???? When Northcom is Deployed “AGAINST” their “EMPLOYER” you…the motherfuckin’ American Public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Ide’s of March???” OR “Fuckin’ TAPS!!!!!!!” You fuckin’ people need to decide!!!! I tire of this buLLLshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 1:18 am
The time is getting near. One of the crucial, and possibly last steps, to creating the New World Order involves creating a one world economy, in which Glen Beck mentioned on his show recently.
The time is getting near to gather your friends, your neighbors, and your family to fight this horrendous atrocity on humanity. Buying an automatic rifle is cheaper than you might think – only 1200 bucks!
I am considering creating a militia website to organize and gain numbers to fight this beast. If you’re interested, please go to itsonlytv.blogspot.com and find my contact email.
If these bastards want to ’sell’ us their ideas discreetly and publicly, I suggest calling the white house or emailing them such as I have. Here is what I said:
We the People are waking up. Slowly, but still waking up. I have studied and watched your actions closely for the last couple of years. I am concerned that you are so focused on instituting a slavery system upon the people of the world. Since you really don’t give a shit about what I, nor millions of others think and you are going to do whatever you want anyways, good luck on this fight – because this fight will not go unchallenged. When the time comes, and we both know it is near, I pray that we, the real people of this world, will win. By the way, I know of Phil Schneider, amongst others in the movement to fight this power you are constructing. People are speaking out, and you can’t completely control all of your pawns.
The man on the horse is always sneaky.
I simply don’t give a fuck anymore. Hopefully I get a full nights sleep without some bastard agent knocking on my door in the middle of the night. We must warn people bluntly. I’ve considered displaying public messages with the use of paint to get the word out.
Peace to all.
Greg
October 12th, 2008 at 1:22 am
I remember what my Father told the day he taught me how to use my fist gun, a Marlin .22 caliber rifle; “Never point a gun at someone unless your going to use it. If your going to use it, make sure they don’t get up”.
My Father was also a Golden Gloves Welter Weight Champion in his unit. He told me if your outnumbered, take as many of them down with you as you can before it goes black. With that knowlege, I will protect my Freedom, my family and my country until I can stand no more!
Remember all, over 82% of Americans are armed, we out number them 10-1. If “W” tries to turn our own against us, he’s in for one hell of a fight. Never give up, never surremder, let the sons and daughters of freedom stand against the forces of evil until that great day when the Lord returns again!
October 12th, 2008 at 1:32 am
RAY: FUCKIN’ A RIGHT!!!! Your Father was a wise Man!!! “All ‘HAIl’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Ray, that reminds me of a Wyatt Earp movie (don’t laugh). His dad told him when you are confronted with evil strike first, and strike to kill. Although that is from a movie, I have taken that advice personally. I like it because it goes along with the “one shot, one kill” standard the military uses.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:20 am
This is what’s next and why they know we are going to riot and revolt: http://www.trippingelsalvador......al-economy
This nation is going to be ablaze, and guns are gonna be doin’ a lot of talkin’….
October 12th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Folks, the situation is dire. Either we start working full time on this situation of alerting the masses to defend themselves and our families, and never give up, or we can kiss our lives off to a Hitler-like status quo. The choice is ours to make; backed by action or inaction…with action we maintain hope, by inaction we accept our prisons. Last week was a clear sign of what is really going on here in the USA. The House of representatives voted no to the bailout due to unprecedented action by the people; yet, 2 days later, the Senate voted in favor (totally unconsitutional and therefore ILLEGAL), and the rest is history–we the people were ignored! Wake the Fu#k up and start waking up as many others as possible–especially if they happen to furnish badges! I am amazed how many are like totally asleep and ignorant of what is going on, and yet, I feel such a sense of honor and joy when on occassion I find that I have from time to time awakened some to the truth, and they in turn start informing others with some success–this is how we become a force to be reckoned with, one person at a time. I repeat, the situation is dire! Peace.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:57 am
yoyoyoyoYO! check out http://www.submedia.tv for a +inspirational documentary+ on the people taking on the police state at the RNC and the DNC conventions called::::::::::::::::::::
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October 12th, 2008 at 5:04 am
America: the standard of freedom .
The standard of freedom for the past centuries.
The standard is lowered ,
The standard is lowered.
Only we of this past can stand up ,
stand up to face the biggest threat to the american people ,
that this country has ever known.
Raise the Standard .
October 12th, 2008 at 5:14 am
fundamental question :
who do intelligence services and defence forces serve ?
October 12th, 2008 at 5:39 am
This is corruption ,
and we are fighting it ,
whether we know it or not.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:01 am
coffins are ready
October 12th, 2008 at 6:29 am
“0009″ great video, going to watch it again. Folks, our young people are starting to carry the ball we dropped along time ago. God bless them.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:05 am
2 minitman–I am ready.
4 HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront–I very much understand your rage and frustrattion, but dude you need to step back and calm down enough to think rationally. Blind rage will only get you killed.
6 A voice in the wilderness–Potential to get ugly? It IS going to get ugly. Are you ready?
9 Greg–good post and well stated. If you are going to plan organized resistance, it would be better to do it quietly, where they can’t monitor you so easily as on a website. I’m not saying don’t start a website, but you can get away with a lot more by operatiing below the radar.
10 Ray–Your dad was a very smart and wise man. This is the way to organize groups of resistance fighters.
My answers are simple and right to the point. Fuck this criminal Nazi DICKtatorship, this group of outlaws and thugs that DARE call themselves the government!!
Fuck their illegal, unconstitutional “laws”. To hell with Chimpy’s statement that “either you are with us or you are with the terrorists” I’d rather be identified as a “terrorist” than be identified with this disgusting, shameful group of thugs. They have destroyed every thing that was good about America and turned it into AmeriKKKa. I will not obey, I will not shutup, I will not be a slave. I will resist by any and all means possible and teach my children to distrust the government in all forms including those indoctrination camps they dare call public schools. See you in the wilderness or in the Great Beyond, whichever comes first. Don’t look for me in one of those FEMA camps. I will live free for however long possible, rather than live as a cowardly slave on my knees.
Peace to all.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:34 am
The army is already training riot control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD18eIMsLyw
hope we do not fight back like these pussies..
October 12th, 2008 at 7:46 am
This is the part of the tragedy where we will see the ubiquitous “pay your f.cking taxes or die, you rat scum”.
Yep, the Soylent Green times are upon us.
When you wake up in the morning, look at yourself in the mirror, and ask “am I a coward, or maybe too dumb ?” then keep paying those illegal, never ratified, taxes.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:14 am
i am the32 year old son of a wwII b-17 belly gunner. before my dad passed away hesaid this country isnt the same he fought for years ago. he would be so sad to see all of this happening. he warned me of the evil of credit cards and the”crookedness” of the politicians. i wish so much i could hear him speak out one more time at this sad state of affairs.
rip dad
October 12th, 2008 at 8:31 am
i uderstand we must be carefull what we say-it is a fine line between terrorist and freedom fighter-depends on wich side of the fence you are on-i hear the words “defend me and my family”-if that means that you will shoot the black opp’s as they enter you home-that is not defense-they will slaughter you and your family-you are trapped-i fear we will have to mass and go on the offensive to reclaim the republic and true freedom as in our constitution and bill of rights-this in turn may be considered cival war-we are being played by the globalist-i am sure they have the bases covered-it is my opinion that the NWO has full control of our masive nuclear and technological weapons-look who is running the show people-if we have civil war in america,it is already planed for the UN army to invade-after all-you cant have the strongest military power on the globe being over ran by patriots-aka terrorist-in the end-the victor has the opertunity to rule or destroy the globe-we the people need our birth rights and our constitution-we need laws to maintain order and to ensure the peoples rights to live free-freedom is what makes us civil-if you take away freedom-you open the doors to hell-we have been cheated-the cards are on the table-the shark demands payment-do we walk away with nothing with the thought of getting even-or do we act-act-that is the big word-someone has to fire the first shot-as in the revolutionary war-till the shot is fired-we are stalemate while the NWO lutes what is left of value and completes the grid and troop deployment-if the go for all the marbels-americans are going to be murdered by the millions as the result of weapons of mass destruction-starvation-citizen on citizen-it is all very well planed-everything happening around us is a theatrical production-our government and authorities are acting out roles-buying that little extra time they need to declare checkmate-i am not internet smart-i need help to find information-you know the government has the RF chip tracking by satellite in place-it is safe to assume that all weapons and maybe some personell-vehicles-etc…-they are tagged-do they have something like a RF detector to find thes thing or destroy them-when that first shot is fired-we the people only have two choices-fight or comply-i already seen what they have in theater for those that comply-fema camps-coffins-they need to go ahead and take the compliers out of the picture so each side knows who the enemy is-kill or be killed-we need the enemy’s weapons-we need to compremise their ability to trac those weapons-remember-if this is the big one-there will be troops from all over the globe hunting us down-and they will be happy to do it…..
October 12th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Has anyone seen the Modern Marvels weird weapons on the History channel. It shows the military using their new microwave crowd control gun on actors who are dressed like peace protesters. Carol is oh so right.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:11 am
How much of this stuff is really happening and how much of it is stuff you believe based on media? I don’t live in the US but occasionally I listen to the Alex Jones show. The economic stuff I can see because it’s out in the open, but a lot of what gets talked about seems way over the top.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Legit or not, it doesn’t matter. Go here and read this and do what thou wilt. But don’t say you didn’t have a choice for a softer landing. It is worded well, and has no new agey language or cliche, it does have unique verbal usage at times but it is a good read. See if it strikes a chord with you. One thing is for sure, this is not a guns war it is a spiritual war in the end and this time our victory will come without (much) blood or it will not come.
http://www.goodworksonearth.or.....ow_up.html
October 12th, 2008 at 9:16 am
I should qualify that last statement. Victory is already ours the question is… How ugly will it get and how long will it be so?
October 12th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Regarding what may await us these next few weeks preceding the election:
http://blog.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel
If this is true, I hope that Alex and Co. put this front-and-center on Infowars.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Just a question to all info wars people included posters/readers/alex jones etc.
You all speak about the nwo and bringing it down, so why dont you all why are you waiting for?
Sorry you people are all talk and sometimes i think totally paranoid.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Yeah, I read the US Army is buying up a couple more of those truck mounted pain-ray cortex cookers. I’m sure the people opersting them will eventually get used to fellow American citizens screaming in agony [unless they won’t have that problem, thanks to anti-terrorist earplugs), otherwise it will be a whole new cattle prod/electro shock therapy watching tax payers running around and squealing like pigs on fire.
“Here piggy, piggy, piggy, pigggeeeee – You want freedom, do yah!? Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaa!! You is free to fry!!! Hey, Johnny, How do you like yours? Extra crispy. You got it.”
ZZZZZAAAAPP!!
You know, with US mercenaries now working side by side with US torture soldiers, I wonder how much longer till they turn their gun sights on the people who are paying them (mainly US tax payers, but China does own America now) they will soon begin to kill fellow US citizens on a mass scale not seen since… ever. C’mon, you shitheads must have seen it coming?
No.
And do you know why?
October 12th, 2008 at 9:32 am
The recent call back of US troops to the Homeland and recent military police exercises in UK and US are to prepare for coming civil unrest and unease. The authorities have been preparing for this period for a while. It seems unimaginable byt the preparations currently affot are not immediately for unrest because of economy…but due to an imminent world sightings of UFOs next week. Yes folks the meetings taking place between leaders are not primarily to do with the world economy. Info has been leaked from Canadian military sources that the reserves have been put on full alert from 14th through to 18th. Oct 14 is the date given for 3 days minimum of mass contact with Galactic Federation of Light.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:35 am
The best thing we can do is spread the word, act on mass. If the whole of the USA said “NO MORE” the military would not shoot its own. After the initial massacre pretty much the troops and police would refuse to act. If the whole of the USA decided to PEACEFULLY and we just refused to give them power , no way the forces would keep acting
do a search on Google for “elite family member” there is a post . .. A very very long forum post from somebody who claimed to be a member of the illuminate etc.. a hoax.. well once you get half way into the post .. its very very long with lots of forum members ask8ing questions.. once you get half way you will see they have knowledge of physics, metaphysics , quantum theory and pretty much well versed in every respect. moreover “Insider” constructed his/her sentences very carefully. I cannot stress enough that if you would like to gain insight into how/why this would is controlled so easily and the rules that these elitist abide by then read it. this was posted in 2005 and you will see the sections about food products, crowd control and money
Retrospectively this is all very accurate.
The elites do not change or control events that the do not advertise indeed if i remember correctly one of Alex Jones films shows you a stone monument where in most languages the plan is written down. this was recently erected in the USA to tell the “Bewildered heard” what they were doing
Visa vis if you are told up front the plans of the elite and you chose to ignore nor act upon it then they are by their own “divine right” given permission to carry out their plan.
Looks like the 14 October is going to be a special day, look to the clouds..
ho humm
sheeple and people herds of bewildered lost souls working for the enlightened few so that we can rape the worlds intellect and resources to pursue longevity.
The only humans moving off world in the future will be the genetic elitists who farmed the people to archive immortality
700 billion bail out or your economy will go down the tubes ?? do you remember that DO YOU
LOOK AT THE ECONOMY
oops it went any way.. possibly why they needed to rush it through
THANKS FOR THE FREE MONEY SAYS PAULSON
Wake up time is up
YOUR TIME IS UP
October 12th, 2008 at 9:41 am
When you go down the rabbit hole and speculate, things can become very large or dismissed such as this report about NORTHCOM’s Joint Task Force-Civil Support. Most everyone saw the nature and extent of the disgusting roid headed behavior of the fucking Joint Task Forces supervised by the secretly located mega fusion centers.
The Joint Task Force-Civil Support is nothing more of the same of what people saw at the Republican National Convention is St. Paul which outraged most Americans, gave the Mayor a bad reputation and resulted in dropping lots of completely and totally bogus charges.
The wild break ins by SWAT teams with no warrant. Reporters and civilians being arrested for no reason, equipment stolen and then being detained in pre-made centers in Glad Bag plastic handcuffs. This is more of the same crap and if they aren’t ashamed of themselves by now.. well let me say this, NOW IS THE TIME TO BE ASHAMED OF BEING SUCH DICKS. Lots of you guys are older and have kids, is that the role model for the way you want your sons to grow up? You think the civilized world is one big WWF event?
I don’t know about how far some any of these “task forces” will go when they know they are nothing but expendable units being told to Ben Dover for the New World Order. I suggest these guys lay off the roids, workout and play sports and have plenty of sex (str8 or gay) and read. Maybe then they might get back the sense of balance they had when they were born into this world.
Not every job is just another paycheck. Playing Mr. SWATCOP with middle aged women says it all. Nuff said.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:43 am
haha these idiots have no idea what a nationwide riot will be like. what happened during the L.A. riots in the 90s? cops ran, they hid they avoided it. that was one city. imagine all of america in that situation. But this time it wont be a blacl vs white thing over a rodney king this will be all races coming together fighting against the crooks who did all this. I feel really sorry for all the haughty stuck up cops, military and others who think they calculated how this will turn up and think they can handle it. No amount of training can prepare you for what will be unleashed once america falls. as well as the whole world. this will be so bad nobody will have anywhere to run, all you bastards who served this evil plan you are stuck in this cesspit. nowhere to go. You wanted all this thinking it would be a valhalla. Nope…….your kids will have no future..all the money you sold out for down the toilet…all the fancy cars and big houses….cant go anywhere when theres no gas can ya? didnt think of that did ya scum? and no stores to buy food……did ya plant a garden? monsanto seeds no doubt. they wont do ya any good. No……this is hell on earth about to happen. Your backup line will be cut off….think you got a safety plan for food and water? nope. your houses will be looted. packs of 50 or more people going straight for the big fancy houses thats what it will look like. cuz they think theres food there….but whats this your pretty trophy wife…shes raped over and over count on that. In fact i feel sorry for any women in this coming hell. This generation is completely sick and wicked. Women you will see your husband or boyfriend quickly killed so the sick hopeless mob can have some “good” times becus they have nothing to live for.
all of that above is a very likely scenario. in fact its probably more tame than whats really gonna happen. but make no mistake. you cant run from this tribulation. only knowing god and trusting in him will you be saved. none of these fake churches either…..reading the bible is the only way.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Arguing for or against communists vs. fascists is more fun than democrat vs. republican.
Along the lines of “You’re probably a redneck if…”:
(1) You’re probably a fascist if you think the US should patrol its borders. (2) You’re probably a fascist if you don’t want a world government. (3) You’re probably a fascist if you don’t want a central world bank. (4) You’re probably a fascist if you don’t want a world currency. (5) You’re probably a fascist if you think your race and your nation should be the same. (6) You’re probably a fascist if “Political Correctness” gives you the heeby jeebies.
Remember: “They couldn’t beat you with military might, so commies declared was on how you think.”
October 12th, 2008 at 10:02 am
We’ll win.
#28— I’m wondering how many here know where you got that line—”……Do what you will.” I’ve read that book and was surprised that it was so few pages. Hey, we’re only human… I couldn’t agree more.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:06 am
I can’t believe that the American people on average are going along with all of this. I don’t see how an intelligent person can look around and not see what the government is doing to us. What do these crooked polititions and public servants hope to gain? Are they willing to sell thier country down the drain for better housing in the government complex or a few more food credits being uploaded to thier chip? Why in the hell are these people so willing to give up thier freedom? They are all ignorant pawns that have sold thier souls to the highest bidder. As for public servants it seems that all it took to buy thier souls was a shiny new badge and a little authority to throw around. I guess if these fools are made to feel as they are part of some deranged equation, they can be convinced to do anything. In the end however they will discover that the “freedom” that they thaught they were defending was all an illusion. One thing is for certain, if they wait too long to wake up or decide to change thier minds towards the end, they will have a nice bed waiting for them in the FEMA camp or just be gunned down like the rest of us. As for myself, I have no doubt that everything we say on this site or any other site is being monitored. I’m sure Uncle Sam likes to surf the net too. Think very carefully about EVERYTHING that you post and say as I assure you it will be used against you. Don’t be coerced into anything. Do everything you can to be prepared and always remember that “two can keep a secret if one of them is dead”. Freedom will only be preserved in a grass roots effort. I hate to say it but the form of resistance employed by the VC during the Vietnam war is a pretty good model as far as tactics are concerned. Walk a straight line and give them no excuses, make it so that everything you say and do is legal and above all covert. Remember, they will want as many of us out of the picture as they can before the people can mount any significant resistance. Don’t let them get you into the system!! I’m also sure that most people of an independent mindset or people that have demonstrated any simblence of free thinking already have a nice fat FBI file. Not all in government are our enemies but the government as a whole is. I don’t have all the answers but we all have to really think about everything we say and do. I guess the best thing to do is be as cold and calculating as your enemy, you will tend to make fewer mistakes.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:15 am
you all. no one givesm a care, not sure where alex gets his stamina. if i was a leader i would buy everyone a hearing aid. even those who own their hoes may not be able to keep them. that glorious thing callrd taxes will transfer your home to the homeland. those who attempt to save their lives will lose them. those who sacrafice them will gain favor with the creator. do ya hear? the battle call is on
October 12th, 2008 at 10:31 am
I have thought alot about what we can do and after seeing a few more FEMA camp videos I have come up with the answer and it is this: When the camps start filling up it is our duty to destroy them and all their facilitators(Blackwater-they are privatized and that’s why all the vans and helicoptors are black). The camps should be the rallying points. Do not allow the black vans full of citizens to enter the camps. Free the citizens and destroy every one of them. And if you hear a helicoptor landing in your neighborhood in the middle of the night go out there and fill that bitch with holes and light it on fire. There are not enough US troops to round up everyone. I’m convinced the roundups will be done by blackwater goons. They should be the primary targets as they are paid mercenaries willing to bring death to any and/or all of us. So let’s just start there and regroup after the react to contact begins. If you live near what you suspect is a FEMA camp, organize your battle groups and form contingency plans. Build secret fortified bunkers all around them under cover of darkness. Learn the surrounding terrain. Be vigilante. They can’t kill ALL of us. Remember, all we say is tracked and traced so only with people you personally know, and ALL communications should be done in person only. Imagine what will happen when they start trying to put people in the camps and all across the nation patriots wipe these fucking camps out and kill all the blackies. I feel SOOOO much better already just even thinking about this. We owe our fellow brothers and sisters this commitment of protection. DOWN WITH THE CAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Godspeed
October 12th, 2008 at 10:34 am
roll over like dogs
October 12th, 2008 at 10:44 am
“…While a later bill repealed this, President Bush attached a signing statement that he did not feel bound by the repeal. ..”
So Bush officially declared himself an outlaw.That pretty much indicates an intent to conspire a crime.How come he’s not arrested ?Where are the law enforcement? Busy with kidnapping medical marijuana patients?
October 12th, 2008 at 10:58 am
#41 Problem is, I’m the only one in La Crosse, WI that agrees with you. All the other Campaign for Liberty folks here wouldn’t lift a finger until they were already carted off to Fort McCoy. Yup, we live about a 20 minute drive from Fort McCoy, a known internment camp. (Hey, if barbed wire fencing facing INWARD isn’t meant to keep people in, then you explain what it’s for to me!)
I doubt one man can be effective against a group of very well-paid, highly trained mercenaries. Ergo, am I not fighting a losing battle anyway?
October 12th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Didn’t yous guys hear Palin call the civil rights activists domestic terroerist? I need northcom to send troops into my hood to protect me from all those acid trippin hippies! GAWD help us the hippies are coming
October 12th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Fort McCoy is classified as a Power Projection Platform as are many other military installations in the US. They are intended as a rapid deployment vehicle to restore regional stability. The list of installations as well as troop counts and mission statement can be found at the following link; http://www.globalsecurity.org/.....ty/ppp.htm
October 12th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
#36 #39 well said you have hit the nail on the head very well put, very scary and very real. it could get messy.i have read much into the zulu war where 4000 zulus armed with spears slaughtered 1000 fully armed british troops, and it has since been found that the zulu warriors were taking apowerful cocktail of crude alchohol magic mushrooms and certain parts of a cannibis plant .and the red mist literally came down they knew no fear just went for it. they tested it out on two unarmed combatants only giving one of them the potion and he went fucking beserk if they didnt pull him off he would have ripped him apart. stay focused be wise and stick together. it is all written it must come to pass but guess what nwo TAILS YOU LOSE
October 12th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
To all whom are concerned about the inevitable. Realize this:
You are in control of your own life, and realize that you are being controlled just by reading this.
Whatever leads you to your own decisions is entirely up to you.
The truth is what every human seeks. It has always been this way since the existence of man itself.
It just so happens that Alex Jones is using his own radio show and internet site to promote for his
own self servance. If this were not the case, don’t you think the ones in power would have collapsed
already? Afterall, a hundred million people have seen Loose Change, and another 100 million people
have seen Zeitgeist. Thats a whole bunch of people. But yet, nothing has changed.
The truth to everything is not entirely true. It is only true if we see it true for our own self fulfillment,
and nothing more, nothing less. Spend time on yourself. And realizing that coming onto this site to talk about hating and hurting others is in and only of itself – hurting yourself. And, in essence, talking about and ranting about the New World Order, is in essence furthering its creation as well. The leaders that be and perceived leaders are in reality, the frontmen, and the ones in real control are behind the curtain. The same goes for Alex Jones.
I am going to come onto this site periodically from now on, and not consume myself with the fear promoted here, as it is ultimately my own self undoing. Realizing that this may be contrary to my previous posts, I have realized that the world around me is a result of me, as well as people prior to my existence as well.
This is in response to #31’s post – as I have concluded that people on here are merely just talking and venting their mind. As I have just done.
Peace.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
The government is involved in an INSURRECTION defined by Webster’s dictionary as, “an act or instance of rising in arms against an established government (our Constitutional Republic) or authority” (the People of the United and the Constitution).
The government is also involved in REBELLION defined by Webster as, “resistance to or defiance of any authority, (the Constitution) control, (balance of powers; constitutional restraint) or tradition” (a tradition of liberty and constitutionally limited government).
Looks like the treasonous government has become “VIOLENTLY RADICALIZED” towards the People, their Liberty and the contract which is the Constitution. The People are the Principal in the constitutional contract with the hireling government which is an “agent of the people.” Since they have abandoned the contractual agreements which are delineated in the constitution we, the People have a right to recission of the contract. “When a long train of abuses and usurpations…evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security.”
Section 3; Article 1 “Treason against the United States, shall consist in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” The government is getting ready to levy war against the American People – the very definition of TREASON. With the recent economic bailout they have “adhered to our enemies giving them aid and comfort.” This aid and comfort is extracted from the People at gunpoint so that we will pay or suffer the loss of our property, liberty and lives. “…it is their right, it is their duty…” Got oath?
October 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
molatov cocktails!
if gas is their god, then lets cover them in the stuff and burn them
simple
October 12th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
#49 Greg, I respect your beliefs, but if you think it is ok for you not to defend and prevent people being placed in death camps then good luck. Personally I feel it is my duty to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to promote the cause of NOT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY CITIZEN going into one of these goddamnmotherfuckinpieceofshitfuckin camps. It’s kinda like Geoliani said at this point, ‘either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists’. Gee, wish I could go live in such a peaceful world as the one you have found. But I’m still willing to save you or any other citizen from these bullshit camps. The truth is, sheep have always needed hearders, and that is what I feel like right now. And don’t forget to raid and pillage the camp of all weapons and ammo, surveillance and electronic equipment, food and water, military vehicles and anything else worth anything. Anything left behind should be done so in the form of ashpiles. PERIOD. DOWN WITH THE CAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
kill em all!
now
October 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
#52 Butch: Got Math??????????????? “All ‘HAIl’ Thermal Expansion!!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
So Butch…Although point well taken…I didn’t call you AN IDIOT!!! If you wish for me to go vulgar…Trust ME I’m Quite capable…Ask any motherfucker who’s read AND monitered my posts!!! They CAN’T “CONTAIN” Iraq, Afghanistan…WTF are you talking about???? Containment didn’t work in NAM’, North Korea…Central America, South America…The ONLY way to CONTAIN populations IS TO “NBC” the motherfuckers!!! You’re ALREADY ON YOUR KNEES PAL!!!! BTW…In MY precinct there are 35 cops,4 Statey’s, and a few sheriffs for 65,000 fuckin’ people in ANY 24 HOUR period….Once again Bitch…I mean Butch…GOT MATH????? “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
#21 Carol: Pretty damn difficult I’ll tell ya’!!! But thanks for reminding me to maintain civility!!! I appreciate that…but it reminds of the Simpsons’ episode where Homer has those ANGER bumps on his neck…AND IT SAVED HIS LIFE!!!! Once again thanks!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
People really ARE waking up. Everytime they Read about whistleblowers exposing more evil actions perpetrated by the government they open thier eyes and ears wider.Recently the local Gunshop had sold out every Assault rifle in stock. HUNDREDS. Not because they ar planning offensive acts of violence, but because they will not sit idly by and be lead into a defenseless slaughtering mass of cattlecars. The weapons they have are no match for the one thing they can’t Synthesize in thier deathlabs. The Strong will to survive.When they finish thier GAMES and try to make it real they won’t find Actors playing the role of compliant victims. They will find We The People.No Soldier I know will truly carry out such actions. They know in thier hearts how we will react and Will all the uncovered lies mounting none of the coverstories are going to help them. A cover Story is when the Media starts influencing the masses in thier favor. The CIA uses this COVERSTORY tact all the time.You Guys need to tone it down though. They want to be able to Paint you in the Media as Irrational Nutjobs that they HAD to kill or capture and they will focus on YOU 1st. If we speak we need to do it as a Whole and we need to keep our cool as Carol said. Stop telling others that you are making theremite and things like that. The very fact that we are preparing to answer the Evil in Kind Fashion goes without saying.People saw the Recent articles about Privacy Violatuions and fatal Police Brutality. Even those in other nations are quietly Preparing. So when We gat done here we need to help them.It’s not just an American thing.At 1st I thought as if it was Just BUSH and I read and read and saw how far the Evil has infected.1st work on countering thier tazers and Microwave weapons etc. Then compile a Manual of Countermeasures. Like Clothes that will ground out Tazers.Tinfoul Balls filled with Blackpowder for Microwave heat weapons, etc. You see the picture? Stay disciplined and in control . Move carefully and ever forward.Network those who are already away in secret. Move in silent. But remember that when you just get angry and start firing your guns or building bombs that the rest of us prefer not to become your collateral damage.Take a Lesson from the THAI revolution. They Marched on thier Leaders and had them surrounded.Sabotage is another option. The old sugar in the gastank thing….. Mass work Strikes are another one.Constrict where your money goes when you spend it. Shop only at the places in your Neighborhood. Lord Knows THEY NEED THE $$ rightnow! We have a 200+ acre Farm mostly forest and swamp in the North. Those Wargames won’t cut it here since we can elude detection from DEER. We Know this land well. I am Populating these woods with Game and finally Hunting , since NOW there is a Purpose. Food Prices are climbing while Gass is Cheap. Start stockpiling gas while it is using OLD Heating oil tanks you’ve Burried and vaulted with Cement. Because Gas will climb again even faster and You will need it.BTW the E-book on Free Energy was well worth it. $47.. and Upon reading It I copied it and Got word arround.The stores have literally seen MASS SELLOUTS of CAMPING and HUNTING gear.Most likely they would move on the Cities 1st.Rural Communities won’t listen to Preachers and are really close. Half this town is related to me.So unlike the Jews in Europe we won’t be rounded up. My Advice is “GET OUT OF THE CITIES!” if you can do it in any way possible. They know Cities and designed them. They can SEAL them up and just Coverstory that they killed thousands of Big Bad RIOTERS. What they can’t do is surround The Spread Masses in forests where food can be caught.They are Practicing “URBAN ” warfare. Not RURAL. Who needs a road when you have horses and sled dogs? And unlike Cities owning a gun ruraly can’t be demonized.
In cities they take them away for “PUBLIC SAFETY”. Bush fails to respect or recognize the Costitution with a Laugh, while thinking We are going to respect the Thugs and the Laws he imposes on us? Police won’t cooperate here. And Any Thugs Badges or not will be really surprised when they try to Play stormtrooper here.Chat is a great way to get word out.Word of mouth and secret PAPER warnings work in the real world.The store I mentioned has NEVER seen such a run on firearms in it’s history. So YES word HAS gotten out.Now it’s THIER move.Militias Have doubled in size.So Stay calm and wait for it.We are ALL afraid, but it won’t stop us. Outside of the camps they can only Kill. Inside they will do unspeakable things to us.We will set the Example for the other Nations of People who despise the NWO. When they see US Win they will follow Suit.
Be careful and Be Well.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
We must stay calm and focus on our father God, who can handle any crisis, and not give these bastards an excuse to put troops on our streets. They want us to rebel and get violent which will play right into their hands. Let’s channel our anger into constructive prayers to God to take command of our lives; when faced with crisis, we must calm our fears by shouting aloud, “PEACE, BE STILL IN THE NAME OF THE CHRIST!”
When in danger, call or pray to Archangel Michael(he kicked the fallen angels out of Heaven) to come to our side immediately and protect us and our families by saying aloud, “Archangel Michael, help me, help me, help me!” Great short prayer for emergencies. Hope this all serves as a blessing for those who ‘have ears, let him hear.” (for more info, Google ‘The Summit Lighthouse’”
October 12th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Well Butch…Maybe you’re correct, and I can admit that, but if there is ever an EMP blast…all will be blind electronically!!! But numbers are numbers Butch!!! Like I said…They’ll have to NBC a lot of people!!! Ever been in an NBC environment??? Just curious!!! We are all NOT going to agree on everything Butch…and I apologise for insulting you but, I find it difficult, even criminal, NOT to stand OUR ground!!! Or is it OUR ground??? I do read Butch…Ever read “Body of Secrets” by James Bamford??? Pretty fuckin’ informative!!!! You, Me, Everyone is watched!!!! You’re IN the same fuckin’ BOAT with all of us…or…well what is it…what boat are you in??? Got boat??? Roll over and play Possum’??? I’m not the brightest Bulb on earth…if I was…maybe I’d roll over to the DARK side and QUASH so many motherfuckers that I would change my name to Jacques Costeau and pray at the Georgia Guidestones!!! 40 years later I would be saying Mission Accomplished!!! So it would nice to come to common ground…is that possible??? Thermal Expansion on whatever level IS Imminent Butch and you and I will have to cope with it!!! Good Luck Holmes’…Peace!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 12th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Butch
If these so called “high tech weapons” will lead to our demise, then why are we getting our asses handed to us in Afghanistan?
Bottom line – We outnumber the enemy 150/1 minimum! It’s probably closer to 250/1. I like those kind of odds. I also like my trusty .30-06 with XBTRZ 180gr power points! I can hit a microwave oven at 500+ yards and some poor soldier will be eating a cold supper – LOL!
October 12th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
http://www.impeachbush.tv/args/torture.html < Show that to those who still refuse to believe that BUSH truly is evil and would have them killed or tortured.Lucky for me that the only road here has a 1/4 Mile driveway and that I Have a clear elevated vier for just as far arround my home in 360 degrees.Don’t link them to this site 1st thing. Link them to the many independant Recognized sources. Like the actual Documents that enslave them more and more. And the Articles about police brutality. When they SEE that it’s no wild unfounded theory and have to face the facts they will wake.I have the same gear as his minions.And I don’t see Badges and unlawful laws. I see Dangerous Men with guns hostily invading my home.THAT is what we should ALL see.The titles and various departments etc. are just there to add to our confusion.If an unarmed officer politely ASKS to enter my home and discus a concern then fine. You come in here like a DeathSquad then I react to that appropriately and finally. What are they going to do? KILL US TWICE?I guarantee that if they pull that with most Americans It will be the last time ANY of them even consider attacking that home again.Som of the Media is whipping people up to feverpitch of Panic and outrage. Don’t fall for that.If they infringe you rights then take it to them Class Action style in the courts. 1 Person is easy for them to dismiss, but 1,000 or more is undeniable. I saw where that woman was revoking CCW permits. FACT:That Permit is an infringement.All required documents are. All they really need to build cases to determine what gun and person commited murder or a real crime is a slug match.Not 50 hoops of paperwork you have to jump through.Urge people owning guns or not to support the NRA with $$ like I have been doing for years. It’s $$ well spent.
And Martial Law? That just frees our bonds to the Laws they penned inorder to trap us into thinking that THIS is really a FREE country. We havn’t been free since the federal government was created.The only FREE people are the ones who behave morally but don’t recognize the Authority We never gave them.Atleast I never did.If we didn’t have THEM the world would still love this Nation and respect it. There wouldn’t be anymore trumped up wars in THIER backyards.
And when they start nailing the coffins sut it will be in the same incremental fashion. They dare not take up arms against all at the same time. They know they can’t win that way. They will round up some rioters in one state, Protesters in others, Individuals they have crucified with bankrupting taxes for failing to pay, and at each turn they will use the Media to paint these people as guilty of some actual crimes.If they Jail Protestors near you then all should proceed to the statehouse and demand they be released and made restitution to.If you see a cop beating someone then Rodney King them and have others intervene.I noticed that traffic lights have been malfunctioning . Yesterday we had a 30 minute Redlight and finally Made the turn safely and others told me it’s happening alot. We also saw what looked like a Jet’s Afterburner trail except it was decending Verticly like a Helicopter and really slow going downward, yet I see no news about any chopper making any emergency landing or any explaination. 8 of us saw it about 5 miles off in the distance in a Clear sky.If you want a tip? Get a food dehydrator and start stocking up, because MRE’s are $10 each and me? I can’t afford E-foods Direct. So I am doing things the old ways like when My Forefarthers walked this same land.(aside from the sanitary tupperware and Plastic Bags.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
@71 hey butch im am in the uk and laughing my nut sack off- brilliant!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
No Butch….. I am not fighting any ARMED Battles , because there are none as of yet.And you talk alot of crap. I don’t hear about YOU doing any fighting yourself. Which alteast I UNDERSTAND. Now is the time for Preparation lest we jump into it and get our asses handed to us. Lone combatants stant no chance.We I to Grab my guns and atack the FEderal Offices I’d be gunned down alone and made to look like some Deranged whackjob.And don’t EVER compare me to those bastards I work for a living and I took the oath. When my Fellow Militia Men decide it’s time THEN I will act.I already stated the ways we’ve been handling this. EI. Spending locally and choking off the Corporate Cashflow, Making sure our Families are safe and stay fed and well trained and armed.So if you think I am just sittingon the sidelines then you havn’t a clue.Matter of fact I didn’t buy an SKS for deer.Think on that. The storm troopers are enough to worry about without people just going out and shooting and bombing the places they are threatened by. I mean what If you Blow up the Postoffice and kill some kid down the block doing it? Or Start shooting that Nice Highcaliber gun and accidentally hit one of us? I am not sayinng hide inside and wait till they come for us. I am saying “THINK BEFORE YOU ACT”. It says “Well REGULATED MILITIA” Not “Disorganized Unruly Mob”.They work in secret deception. As so should we. Only when WE do it we should hit them where it hurts. On thier Empty Balance Sheets.And it’s already working.Look at the Adverts now that we realized that the TV and Radio are a waste of time.And we refuse to risk bankloans for all those new gas guzzling SUVs . Now that we Conserve electricity or leave the grid completely. They are scared and if you looked for the signs ? THEY ARE PLAIN AS DAY.So unless you yourself are going after them with force then don’t paint me out to be a Pussy. I was a Lance Corporal in Alpha Company back in 1992 Until I got 2 injuries and Bush gave ME the SHAFT.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
I have a very nice night vision scope on my trusty .30-06 rifle!
If things really get serious, then I will use my INTERPHASE PHOTON PARTICULATE DISRUPTOR!
Heaven help these people if I have to use the IPPD!
Go back to sleep now Butch!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Remember Jefferson’s wise words and be prepared for the worst. Brushing up on your survivalist and marksmanship skills is never a bad idea.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
#83
Maybe I should come over to your house and show your “girlfriend” what a real man is like. I’m sure she’s getting tired of that wimpy little piece of latex that you have to strap on and hope that it doesn’t come loose! A little secret – your girlfriend doesn’t have a latex allergy going on! Those nasty little blisters are a hygiene problem! You have to wash the damn thing once in awhile (yes, the straps too)!
Good Grief
October 12th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Its very rare that I feel the need to address a single person on this thread instead of the topic of disscusion.BUTCH why are you on here to tell evryone on here how much you dislike alex jones or
to tell everyone else on here about how youre so intellectualy superior to everyone who decides to seek an alternative to mainstreem media?.Hey ive got this crazy idea for you istead of being some cowardly anoymous guy talking shit on the very website of the guy you dislike try getting of youre childlike lazy ass and start YOURE OWN WEBSITE or blog or whatever and dissemenate youre information and ideas, I assure you know one would ever get on it or support it because youre a self important JACKASS.
To anyone else who dissagreas with alex jones or anyone of his information sources I SUPPORT youre right to free speech and encourage a healthy INTELLECTAUL disscusion please present youre own sources and address people respectfully.DONT BE A DOUCHE BAG LIKE BRUCE…
October 12th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
An October 2005 article by the Brookings Institute (a think tank of the elite for setting public policy) recommends “modifying the Posse Comitatus Act so the president can use the military in law enforcement operations whenever a major national catastrophe is declared and many lives are at risk.”
Let Military Keep Order In Disasters
http://www.brookings.edu/opini.....anlon.aspx
“The president’s position would be similar to that of governors—and the latter are already empowered to command National Guard forces in a manner not constricted by posse comitatus. Why do we fear the president’s hypothetical power more than that of the nation’s governors? Any president who abused his power over American citizens would suffer enormously, up to and including the threat of impeachment.”
We are about to see a police state in America. The elite must act soon. Fifty years ago people simply felt little need to question what they were told to do by those “above” them. But because the human mind is still evolving, now they are starting to do so. And this is why the movement toward globalization and the acceptance of microchip implants is proceeding at such a pace. We are the sleeping giant beginning to stir, and those at the apex of our culture need to shut the prison door tight before we awaken.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:43 am
wheres a los angeles style drive by shooting when u need one ! line up piggies take this bullet ! i hate the cops ! fuck the police 187 . i say its open season on the cops !
October 13th, 2008 at 2:29 am
I’m just Grateful there are Black Patriots!!! I served with some of the best so…Total respect from me!!!! My moniker is comical in nature people!!! WTF Over??? #92 like you…Fuck that motherfuckin’ fuckin’ fuck!!!!!!!! Word Bro’…If you took the “OATH” and NOT Disavowed it…I’m motherfuckin’ there!!! Didn’t mean to to be redundant with fuck…but you know how that goes…”All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!!”
October 13th, 2008 at 2:43 am
Butch why dont you shut your stupid face. Just remember your momma when the economy crashes aj warned you well whats coming and he hasnt lied about anything thats happened so far. so if your a govt stooge or just some little punk take notice. your momma, your daddy, your sisters, brothers, cousins. are gonna be living in the streets looking for roadkill to eat. bank on it.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:07 am
You fuckin’ Butch ass fucks beware!!! You’re hit!!! Lick boots or Cock!!!! Cock IS NOT an option!!!! Your daughters as a target??? You’re toast!!!! Thermal Expansion is just the pretext!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
October 13th, 2008 at 3:17 am
Butch: MY GOD…Stop crankin’ your meat!!!! I WILL ‘NOT’ THERMALLY EXPNAD on this issue!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 9:05 am
It is seldom that I ever post to another individual to call them out on the carpet, but I am going to back up Hank on this one.
Butch–whoever you are kindly shut the hell up with your trouble making and stupid posts that add nothing whatsoever to this discussion. I agree with Hank, either you are a government plant, or a complete idiot.
October 13th, 2008 at 9:45 am
We need to stop playing with the criminal government. The debt they claim we owe and are obligated to pay was assigned illegally. We can just walk away from it. The national debt is not our responsibility.
Get together and buy some farmland. You only need one person in fifty to buy and own the land. The other forty nine can ring up debt and hand the money to the 50th person and they can buy and own the farmland. Then everyone can work it for food. Simple. Screw the system and the criminal government. There is land off the grid away from civilization that can be had fairly cheap. Many people in America today would experience an increase in standard of living if they worked 8 hour days growing their own organic food. No sitting in traffic. No car payment. No car insurance. No cable bill. No electric bill. Intensively hand worked farmland is as much as 5 times as productive per acre as big agri monoculture farmland. Add some chickens and goats and you have a complete system.
October 13th, 2008 at 9:50 am
At a certain point very soon, you will all be able to strut your stuff and prove how much the sodium flouride has affected you.
They didn’t put these soldiers on American soil by chance! Nothing in Government happens by chance, there is something going on and we can expect an event to take place here VERY soon.
Weather they are going to blatantly steal the election or there is going to be another “terror” event, something big is brewing and you can rest assured that this is the case.
October 13th, 2008 at 10:54 am
This is a no-brainer,these troops are here to isolate our friendly dark skinned neighbors from us when they inevitably loot,rob and rape when(if) Obama loses.
Virtually all of these troops will be assigned to these ghettos-not in safe white areas.
Trust me,if Obama loses it will get very nasty out there and you’ll wish that there were more of these guys keeping these beasts in their own areas.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Dave youre comments have no merrit or base in reality,you do not live in or around a multi ethnic area or else youde understand these facts 1.Most blacks have relativly little intrest in politics even with a canidate of color running(I dont say black because hes mostly arabic) because most of us are just trying to survive. 2.Most of us have a deep distrust of our so-called goverment resulting from years of racist policys(jim crow laws,unregulated predatory subprime lending that was aimed in mostly black areas,blatent backing of racist politicians strom thurman,david duke ect… so election fraud whould not be a huge suprise that would incite rioting and massive rape srpee’s that your feeble mind envisions.I dont want to demonize white people because everyone is a indavidual
and should be judged as such,I also belive that racial tension is slowly starting to erode with every new genaration and dave I strongly suspect youre a very slim minority,poorly educated,economically disadvantaged,a child or childlike adult ,exsposed to too much flouride water or a combination of all.
While martial law might start in mostly poor black urban areas it’s simply because they are mostly likely to revolt to an all out military takeover.Its fair to say that the majority(but not all) upper class or middle class white americans are out of shape,under armed,and trust any authority figure to a fault.They would not resort to violence to an armed invasion as quickly as the black community, in my opinion violence is not something that most people can just turn on like a light switch like everything else it takes repitition to use it at will and to use it effectivly.And saddly the black community has plenty of pratice with armed and unarmed violence.Im not trying to premote one race over another in a complete martial law senario because in truth its EVERYONES problem if this great republic falls,and to counter I think that the uppper middle class whites would have better communication and orginizational skills than the lower class black communitys.
I am a AMERICAN patriot first,HUMAN secound,and then a BLACK patriot third.If you are willing to fight for this republic I will put aside any differences so WE can achive a common goal to make sure this criminal regime is beaten and then executed.If this republic falls it’s EVERYONES PROBLEM and I will not simply stand and watch ILEGALL suspension of elections,property rights,gun rights,or the forced detainment of any OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS with out ant just cause to a fema camp or secrect blacksite prison.Remeber these globalist madmen want EVERYONE DEAD so if you let them detain or kill all the minoritys WHO DO YOU THINK THERE GONNA COME FOR NEXT SMARTGUY…..
BLACK PATRIOT SIGHNING OUT……
October 14th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
#74 carol: A carol Gabe loves you and hillbilly is my friend!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
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