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Minnesota Prosecution of Activists Leads Way to Characterize Dissent as Terrorism
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
September 4, 2008
As Amy Goodwin notes at one minute, thirty seconds into this video, the anarchist RNC “Welcoming Committee” will be charged with acts committed by other anarchists, i.e., the agents provocateurs responsible for most of the violent acts committed during the largely peaceful demonstrations in Minnesota. As the authorities admit, the activist group in question was infiltrated by the government, thus casting suspicion over the entire case.
The FBI, working closely with local law enforcement, has a long track record of inserting agents provocateurs in activists groups, from black, Indian, and Puerto Rican “liberation” movements and antiwar organizations — under COINTELPRO and the CIA’s Operation Chaos — to the Judi Bari case in the 90s and beyond.
As the ACLU revealed in 2006, the Pentagon has surveilled Americans opposed to the Iraq war, including Quakers and student groups, and has shared this information with other government agencies through the Threat and Local Observation Notice (TALON) database.
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As well, the FBI “has collected extensive information on the tactics, training and organization of antiwar demonstrators and has advised local law enforcement officials to report any suspicious activity at protests to its counterterrorism squads, according to interviews and a confidential bureau memorandum,” Eric Lichtblau reported in November, 2003.
In 2004, the Joint Terrorism Task Force worked with the NSA to monitor antiwar groups, going so far as to document the inflating of protesters’ balloons.
Law enforcement has an established track record of dispatching agents provocateurs, most notably at the Montebello summit in Ottawa last year.
“My own knowledge is that the FBI along with other Federal law enforcement agencies has been involved in a campaign of bombing, arson and terrorism in order to create in the mass public mind a connection between political dissidence of whatever stripe and revolutionaries of whatever violent tendencies,” admitted David Sannes in an interview on WBAI radio. Sannes worked with the FBI in the 1970s to frame activists.
For a recent example of how far the FBI will go to manufacture terrorist scenarios, consider the case of Miami’s “homegrown terrorists,” charged in a ludicrous plot to bomb a federal building in Miami and the Sears tower in Chicago. As it turns out, the putative terrorists were framed by the FBI who sent in an agent provocateur claiming to be with al-Qaeda. “To obtain money and support for their mission, the conspirators sought help from al-Qaida,” that is to say the FBI.
“(COINTELPRO) is still in operation today, but under a different code name. The operation is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the release of documents under the Freedom of Information Act. A clear example of the FBI’s continued COINTELPRO is in the FBI’s alleged involvement in the 1990 bombing of the vehicle occupied by Judi Bari and Darryl Cherney … which was an effort to neutralize [environmentalist] Judi Bari,” writes M. Wesley Swearingen, a retired career FBI agent with first-hand inside knowledge of COINTELPRO, in his book “FBI Secrets — An Agent’s Expose.”
It is significant that the eight members of the RNC Welcoming Committee, who did not actually participate in a crime, will be prosecuted under the 2002 Minnesota version of the federal PATRIOT Act. This comes at a time when the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 is working its way through the Senate after it received almost unanimous support in the House of Representatives.
No doubt the case in Minnesota will provide ample grist for this draconian bill, especially if the government is successful in making its case that the RNC activists are “homegrown” terrorists, never mind the accused did not engage in a crime and the government intends to blame them for the violent acts of anarchist agents provocateurs.
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September 4th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Maybe this will bring the Democrat cheerleaders at Democracy Now around to our side and realize it’s all fixed. Hillary Clinton isn’t going to save you from this. Neither is Al Franken.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Solution: This claim of “inserted provacateurs” and all would come to a halt.
In my mind a picture a group of organized protesters with a point to make in a peaceful manner. I cannot imagine just showing up and abstractly joing a group of strangers not knowing how to execute the plan of protest. If the protest was organized properly as soon as these so called provacateurs started their act the protest group should peacefully invite the police to subdue and HAND them over to the police, continue to protest peacefully and remove all doubts about who they are with an attorney after they are followed to jail. If it turns out they are “plants” then every effort should be made to expose them for what they are.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Uh, I remember seeing footage from the 1960’s civil right’s movement where our black American citizens were marching for their right to vote, and police on horses 1) tear gassed them then, 2) charged their lines on horseback, and finally 3) laid about with their nightsticks like they were playing Whack-A-Mole at Chucky Cheese. This isn’t really anything new. News Alert! It wasn’t the first time they’ve tear-gassed a flower child girl, everyone. What IS interesting is that the Baby Boomers in control of our government today were the ones being tear gassed back in the day. It’s kind of a touching generational bonding moment, don’t you think?
It’d almost make a cool t-shirt: The Elites: Beating Down Citizens and the First Amendment Since 1960!
Couple that with the image of a cop swinging a nightstick and I bet you’d sell a million of them, no problems.
Look, I’ve posted this on other bulletin board discussions before, so I’ll say it again. Our problems began when the elites used the government to take control of our schools, passed laws forcing our children to attend, and then turned on The Mandatory Indoctrination Program that officially provided me with 6 of the worst years of my life (I had to get old enough to see how pointless government schools really are, but I had it pretty much figured out by middle school, just like the kids in the schools today).
Education in this country is a joke, and for a reason! It’s easier to rule uneducated people. The Catholic Church taught us all about it during THE DARK AGES. They taught all of today’s politicians their tricks. I’m just waiting for the American Inquisition.
First Step to Reclaiming America: We need to introduce competititon into education. Colleges still put out quality graduates because people can choose where they want to go with their money, and State funded colleges compete very well with the private schools. People come from all over the world to attend American colleges. But they get quite a laugh out of our “public(government) high schools”. This is easily fixed with a voucher program, or a system modelled on Europe’s, where the money follows the student, it doesn’t automatically go to the school from the village where the student lived.
Our government should look upon educational organizations the same way they look at a church. Both the church and education are seperate forms of indoctrination into a mindset, and by messing around with them, the government is just trying to do away with the competition. We don’t need self interested government. We need a government interested in our freedom of self.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Kurt, after your mentioning of the mindless Miami case, where the terrorists were completely infiltrated by the FBI, penniless and even given a reason to continue on by them, this case of the “Welcoming Committee” has a mile wide stench too. Political dissent is now considered terrorism, well sure it is. The MSM took the idiotic case in Miami at face value. With the level of infiltration and planted provocateurs, this case can be thrown in the trash too. Too compromised to pass the test of willing desire to commit acts of terror, etc.
When there is a real case out there will the Real Slim Shady Please Stand Up. Any judge adjudicating this case without knowing all of the very specific details about who lead who to do what and where, will be nothing but a pawn for the system. This also discredits all the bogus raids and detainments without warrant and confiscation of valuable equipment. It can’t get any sloppier than this.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
It’s a little early to start “anger trolling” Adam Y.
Don’t you think.
You must be new at this.
Your masters should have kept you behind the desk al ittle longer.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Just wanted to say to Alex that I love this video, very powerful speech. The answer to 1984 is 1776. Very powerful man, awesome.
Heres a link for those that haven’t seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-c5prh1T80
September 4th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Disidant opinons are now grounds for the cops and the feds to claim that they are “homegrown terroists?” that is total Bull!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
A mention of the Toronto 18 would be another prime example. I think it’s down to 9 now. (2 informers and charges dropped on 7
The primary witness and the only one of the 18 that had a firearm and licence happened to be the informant.
The cherry on top of this case is undoubtably how the fertilizer was shipped to a warehouse in the backyard of the Anti-terror headquarters.
http://video.google.com/videop.....toronto+18
Now that an federal election will be called officially in Canada on Sunday, there is no telling what tricks might be up the sleve of the Canadian Neo-cons.
I knew the SPP called for HARMonization and deep integration but timing a federal election in sync with the States came clear out of left field for me.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Time for the round up to begin.Once the NWO can expose you all as the trouble makers you are,the American public will see we are under siege and the chip will be much easier to sell!
September 4th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
This completely sucks!! I agree with the other posters who said bring them down now or be ready to spend the rest of your miserable lives kneeling and licking the boots of your NWO masters.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all … it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)
September 4th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
TERRORISM: A system of government by terror.
TERROR: Intimidation. Dread; fright; to cause extreme fear.
READ FROM THE SOURCE:
THE Consolidated~Webster ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY
The Library of Essential Knowledge
Chicago 1955
http://budget.net/~ooglah/OOgL...../GIST.html
September 4th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Since so many people want to know what to do, when is the gunfighting going to start, or just claim what they would do if such and such a situation ever happened to them or one of their own, maybe all those capable should find out where Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jessie Ventura, and many of the other patriots who Alex has interviewed are and follow them around all day long giving them body guard services.
Now, obviously the enemy will eventually start something that will start a shoot out, but the defense will obviously be a glorious one that will go down in history as the first shot of the real revolution, the day when the battle cry started from the masses, not just the few. The enemy of course has the high tech weapondry and the tanks and aircraft, but it will be an organized effort on the part of the ones who are serious and capable of doing something for the first time as the question constantly arises about everyone organizing somehow to do something useful for the cause of stopping this police state we are now in.
Ones like Alex, Dr. Paul, and Jessie Ventura are alone in a sense. They are lone wolves. They are loners. They are the ones who are presently out on the front line. So why not start an organized effort yourselves to be with those loners on the front line while you can? Go help those on the front line already, bodily help that is, not just writing here or buying some of their books. Physically they have no protection, even if they have private body guards. Those who are capable of doing what I just suggested now become publically involved and the front liners are the ones who need it most giving them the backing they need for their very lives that they do not have presently. I am sure that someone here can now expand on this to make it work. Yes?
Rhonda
September 4th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
the chip?
the chip is coming over the massive earthquake and bye-bye california, unleashed weaponised bird-flu, a nuke or two perhaps on the east-coast, and WWIII…
it’ll be the hardest worst time ever!!! …. this is not a game… people who think because they know….
“to know is to act”
and the elite are into occultism and satanism because their actual enemy is God
God bless,
Steve
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
September 4th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Helen, er… Adam Y, still not working.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Im surprised adam Y isn’t blaming it on the mexicans.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Free book on the Federal Reserve!
http://www.money-changers.com/
September 5th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Stop blaming the Jews. They are scapegoats. The power structure is a multidimension pyramid containing compartments of all secret societies and governements with the British Israelists and Baal worshippers at the top.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:11 am
if a senator votes for the homegrown act, he will be putting his own prodigy in chains. its hard to believe our leaders are so shortsighted. but the evidence proves they are.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:44 am
warrants? what are those? wow!
September 5th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Nice post – if the people in America do NOT support the New World Order then they / YOU should do the following:
Break your State away from whatever unites the USA and take one star of the flag.
How does good distinguish itself from Evil ?
September 5th, 2008 at 12:55 am
The word is progeny, not prodigy.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:47 am
Beat the international bankers at their own game……….become financially and debt free.
http://www.becomericher.info
September 5th, 2008 at 1:48 am
oh my God! there seems to be no end to the maddness! poor girl & her boyfriend and all those arrested(bless & protect them) & held for truely helping this country & the whole planet….yet the ones who cause the real terror are allowed to go around arresting people!!! …. i hope this changes soon dear god!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Hey thanks for pooping on the comments Thomas….Advertise somewhere else.
“Yes, I want to double or treble my income, now!”
September 5th, 2008 at 2:56 am
Boredom is Death. Anorexia = Beauty, and piece of mind is poetic
September 5th, 2008 at 3:58 am
usa is fucked!
September 5th, 2008 at 3:59 am
It’s Amy goodman not Amy Goodwin. But this incident just goes to show how “the thought police” are at work and how anyone, including your grandmother in Kansas, can be arrested for being a terrorist if she makes a quilt at her senior recreation center that says, “don’t tread on me”.
September 5th, 2008 at 4:08 am
The reporter’s name is Goodman. Not Goodwin.
September 5th, 2008 at 5:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKTCW4oxS6I
September 5th, 2008 at 5:54 am
Over the next few months there should be an unending campaign of violence directed toward the cities law enforcement community. Random shootings, fires, dismemberment, and assaults on family members. A high death toll will wake the city up as to how much we will do to protect our freedom. They should all be scared and have sleepless nights wondering if they are going to make it throough tomorow. Do what you can to scare the shit out of these people and make them sorry for their actions. I want to see dead cops.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:25 am
Godfeat – agent provocateur
September 5th, 2008 at 6:25 am
We need the enforcement on our side fools
September 5th, 2008 at 6:57 am
Well, folks, this country is quickly descending into a police state. Essentially what they are doing is charging these protesters with crimes committed by other people the day before, namely the anarchists. If someone robs a bank on Tuesday and you happen to be at the bank on Wednesday, they just may charge you with bank robbery.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:01 am
The agent provocateurs within the group probably instigated much of the riot planning. That’s exactly what they do, they steer the group towards violence and then build a case against the other group members.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Godfeat is either a paid blogger or a complete moron. Either way, you should not be encouraging violence against anyone or their family (that’s bad).
September 5th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Godfeat is a provocateur; do not listen to his trash. We need the police to stand against this New World Order system; indeed, the police are abused by these elites more than anyone else in our society. The social engineers and the eugenicists hurt the police and their family just as much as they hurt us. The police are with us whether they know it right now or not. The military is with us, too. In the coming police state, the police and military will be on our side, that’s why the elites write documents stating that Blackwater and other mercenary groups will enforce their diabolical plans, not the police and military. The elites will also use NATO and UN troops. God bless our troops and police officers, we will need them.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:08 am
You people never fail to amaze me with your blame game!
The Government this!
The Globalists that!
They have had free reign because “not one of you” has got the moral fibre to stop them!!!
The blame is laid out entirely at your feet!
You have made your bed…now lie in the fucking thing and stop your pitiful rants!!!
Enough’s a fuck’n'nough.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Now everyone likes to just pick on the Zionists, and many are right they are a large part of the problem, but that is also a set up to divide and rule. I have explained so many times where the american Jews, and European Jews came from and that is from the Caucasus region, and these people only adopted a religion, but they are not real jews, but they also do not hold all the power. They are as bad as the neocons, the neonazies, and all the rest of the groups out there.
The Illumanati are at the top, and have been since Sumer and earlier. They have created all the worlds rligions, including Christianity, and have written all of your holy books, and changed them as time went on to fit in with their agenda and control the people better. simple. Now if you must have religion, then change it like they do and make it something better, but hanging on to the bible, well sorry it just makes you more of a slave, because you are falling into the divide and rule syndrome.
Oh and there are many Zionists who are not jews, so make your fights with the Illmanati, and stop supporting the divide and rule program. Stop supporting the white power movements, stop supporting the Christian movements, stop supporting the Jewish movements, leave all movements, and just get th truth out.
If you want to support something support a world army for freedom, get trained, learn the tactics of war, and get to the fight.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:21 am
If you want to wi this you need the police on your side as well as the military, and that is going to be hard, but can be done with the right propaganda, and getting them the truth. sorry but we will have to learn to use the Illumanati’s tactics fast to get the numbers we need to fight them. We must start education programs of our own, create media of our own, and we must stop crying about what has happened. I Usually do not agre with Ausies, but well it is our fault, it is our fault for letting the Illumanati get this far, but we have been brainwashed for years, and it is time we do someting, or just file in for the camps, get in line and take that chip, and be the slaves on their plantation that we were born to be.
Here is reality. We do not have the weapons, we do not have the numbers, and most here do not have the training to make an organized disciplines attack on the Illumanati. It takes training discipline, and guts, andd the willingness to lose ones life for this cause.
Too many people are afraid of not having a h9ome, not having a job, not having money, not haveing the comforts they are used too, and they do not want to give up what they have.
We could stop this all, by every American saying no we wil not pay taxes, we will not support the government, but who will do that? none. Sure we talk a good game, vent online, but when it comes to the real world, we go to work, say yes sir and no ma’am, and lick the boots of our oppressors, then come home and bitch online. sorry but that is truth.
If we all stood up at once and just said no more, well it would stop, it is that simple. Now will it happen, no, because people like money, people like power, and people have been so conditioned to like comfort.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:23 am
The only difference between now and then (the 1960’s groups) is that with the erosion of public education we will not see as many colorful characters like Abbie Hoffman in the modern Chicago 7 group…the police state tactics are the same but idealism while reeking of patchouli oil doesn’t have the same clout as it once did…I can just see it now, a bunch of dreamers sitting around in a group with the communal bong sharing their fantasies of how they’d like to overthrow the government, using phrases like “kill” and “destroy” and the wimp informants pretending to take part in what everyone will eventually find out…just a bunch of idealistic kids with no hope (or fortitude) to do anything tangible which would justify such charges. The founding fathers didn’t march through the streets with ridiculous chants, they packed, patched a ball and fell grains into their priming pans to await the bright red targets to which flint sparked the path to freedom. Without seizing any firearms or molotav cocktails the prosecutor has crossed the line from a real threat into the arena of thought crimes. I also believe that this “informant” issue is being presented to keep everyone’s attention focused away from what I think could very well be misuse of the FISA bill, if they’re calling them terrorists what is to keep the feds from using such powers?
September 5th, 2008 at 7:24 am
if someone supports or believes in zionism, or the zionist state,
then they are my enemy,
weather they are in a position of power or not
because they give backing and approval to the people in power!
ALL ZIONISTS ARE SCUM
September 5th, 2008 at 7:42 am
wanting to hold people accountable is fair. encourgaging the harm of others by force is why where in a police state now Be part of the solution not the problem or continue to act stupid so they can justify why thier doing this
September 5th, 2008 at 7:49 am
if every meeting you participate in is met with police in full riot gear that are intent on inciting something
then why should you not turn up tooled up ???
if this were taking place in england or europe, there would be full scale running battles with the police at these events.
you people in america really have been dumbed down, your not even allowed to voice your opinion, let alone, protect yourself from police in full riot gear, armed with battons, pepper spray, tear gas and tasers
look at the demonstrations in europe, england france germany russia even,
the citizens are not affraid to fight back when approached in this manner.
yet all you people do is walk down the streets with placards
you have already lost your country because you are to affraid to fight for it
its as simple as that.
YOU ARE TAUGHT FROM DAY ONE THAT AGGRESSION TOWARDS YOUR LEADERS IS WRONG AND WILL BE PUNISHED,
YET YOUR COUNTRIES LEADERS ARE THE MOST AGGRESSIVE AND WAR HUNGRY ON THE PLANET
YOU CAN KISS YOUR IDEAL OF AMERICA GOOD BY UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR IT.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Aussie-Agent provocateur
September 5th, 2008 at 8:15 am
im acttually in ENGLAND and am not afraid to meet force with force
unlike alot of people in the US that just play with words like the jewish law makers.
if you want to loose your country and rights, continue to walk round with placards.
if you want to take it back, its going to take a little bit more direct action, than pieces of cardboard.
but if you really cant see that, carry on, i dont have to live there.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Muppet show, what have you done?
Anything?
Or . . are you just talk also.
Exactly.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:51 am
They already had this planned out way before. Also the validation that the thought police are alive and well and will be coming to get you soon as well.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:04 am
THE N W O , IS SPEEDING UP THE NEW WORLD ORDER PLAN, WHY WAIT TO GET FREEDOM IN AMERICA, OUT OF THE WAY, TO END IT , START WAR WITH A COUNTRY THAT CAN GET AMERICA OUT OF THE WAY FAST. AS IN THE BOOK, IN ONE HOUR ! TO EQUAL OUT ALL COUNTRIES YOU MUST , EVEN OUT ALL COUNTRIES, POWERLESS. BUT NATO , WHO AT THE TOP IS ONE MIND .
September 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am
MUPPET SHOW are you for real? as a brit you have given up your country and rights a long time ago. so who are you to talk about action. doesnt your country keep you from owning a firearm and have police nannys watching you. so you talk about action but your already up to your ears in repression from your govt. so shut your bloody gob you fool
September 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am
I heard something over the news during this last hurricane that hit Louisiana that really surprised me. They announced that the Canadian military would be coming down to assist with support operations after the hurricane hits. They were planning on the hurricane being a category 4 or 5 but fortunately it was only a 3 and then dropped quickly. Could you imagine something similar to katrina only this time the canadian military is breaking down peoples doors to take away their self defense weapons etc. Its a step in a new direction for the North American union
September 5th, 2008 at 9:45 am
THIS IS ALL A PLOT TO MAKE REVOLUTIONARY PEOPLE ANGRY…
THEY ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE 1 OF US SNAP & START SHOOTING PEOPLE…
WE MUST RESIST!!!
IT’D BE THE PERFECT EXCUSE TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW…
THEY’LL SCARE MOST EVERYONE TO EVACUATE. (NO WITNESSES)
THEN THEY’LL UNLEASH 10′S OF MILLIONS OF UNMANNED, HEAT-SEEKING, KILL ON SIGHT, ATV, ROBOTS.
THEY WON’T NEED VERY MANY TROOPS.
MILLIONS OF UNMANNED ATV’s CARRYING THE BEST VIDEO GAME AI SOFTWARE/WEAPONS THAT HAVE PERFECT AIM…
IT’LL BE REALLY HARD TO OVERCOME…
SO DON’T DO ANYTHING CRAZY.
LET THEM KEEP DIGGING THEIR OWN GRAVES…
JUST LET THE INFOWAR KEEP GROWING BECAUSE IT’LL ONLY BE A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE’LL ORGANIZE THE MAJORITY…
ONCE WE HAVE THE MAJORITY, IT WON’T MATTER IF THEY HAVE MILLIONS OF ROBOTS, THEY WON’T HAVE ANYONE TO TURN THEM ALL ON…
September 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am
joe jock jr Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am
MUPPET SHOW are you for real? as a brit you have given up your country and rights a long time ago. so who are you to talk about action. doesnt your country keep you from owning a firearm and have police nannys watching you. so you talk about action but your already up to your ears in repression from your govt. so shut your bloody gob you fool
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Tesla Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Muppet show, what have you done?
Anything?
Or . . are you just talk also.
Exactly.
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A) i own 8 firearms in various cailbers, most are heavily modified all have silencers moderators fitted, something your not allowed to do in your country of freedom, so where you get this non fact from i dont know lol ha ha ha
B) if we go to a demonstration in this country, and we are met with force by the authorities, we greet them with force, take a look at the many demos, that have turned to full scale running battles with the police on youtube, something you people are absolutely petrified of doing,
so dont try and talk about action to me, when all you have to offer is silence and cardboard.
c) we dont have anywhere near the constraints and laws over here that you do in america, yes we have cctv, but people keep ripping them down ha ha ha , the vision you have of the UK is the vision your leaders want you to see!, so they can implement that over you,
D) even when the bricks and petrol bombs start flying in this country, the police never turn out with firearms, ever!!!, you are a controlled society and you cant even see it
you are a discrace to the word FREEDOM, you are allowed liberties not FREEDOM in your country, there is a big difference between the 2
so just carry on, loose your country, if the people you are voicing your oppinion to arnt paying any attention to your concerns, what do you do ?, oh i know, wave a piece of cardboard at them in a controlled freespeech area,
i can walk out of my door in england and start ranting about anything i like, i dont need a permit to do it, and i dont have to go to a special free speech zone to do it or be confronted with tooled up riot police neither.
you are all delusional seriously, keep eating the bullshit they are feeding you, youl go along way : )
September 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Yea, we have the right and a duty, step in and put a stop to these clearly unlawful actaions, wheres the camo’s and black face paint..
September 5th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Everyones hurtin’, just trying to get by. Life throughout the ages has never been just, yet somehow humanity always prevails. What we face and endure now has been faced and endured before…they don’t feed us to the lions anymore!
As frustrating as it is trying to enlighten the “sheeple” it’s worth remembering this:
“You Can Lead A Horse To Water But You Can’t Make It Drink”
Talking is a good thing, a constructive thing, but not on a “truth site”…”up on a podium is were the talking should be done” or on a street corner, “it should be visible as well as heard”
If we want change, first we have to change ourselves, and deny the Globalists that we despise their profits “that we provide them”:
Throw away our mobile phones!
Get rid of the car and walk, cycle, or take public transport!
Put a sledgehammer through the hd widescreen tv!
Don’t buy that 80sq house just because the “jones’s” have…we know deep down that 15sq will do!
Save up for that which we want…why borrow and make the banking elite even more profitable!
I could go on and on and on…the point is, we all in some way make stronger and give more power to “that which we despise”!!!
We have to stop the blame game, and look long and hard at ourselves in front of a mirror, then go about changing ourselves, which in turn will erode the influence and power of the Globalist Juggernaut!
If not for us, then for someone even more important…”a child”
September 5th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Jesse Ventura for President in 2012…his speach at Rally for the Republic..must see..
http://www.gcnlive.com
September 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Why isn’t there a group of “Citizen Peacekeepers” present at these events to conclusively identify “anarchists.”
Stay with me.. Imagine for a moment, a group of individuals to “detain” or perform citizens arrest on some masked-asshat who decides to break windows and start fires. That person is detained, unmasked, photographed, and fingerprinted for future identification. Any “agent provocateurs” would be quickly identified.
The video I watched two days ago showing a lone officer being tackled seems like a well scripted play.
Act 1: Lone officer grabs “anarchist”, cameras roll
Act 2: Second “anarchist” walking with officer hands the officer something (that’s what it looks like to me)
Act 3: Third “anarchist” tackles officer, all 3 “anarchists” get away, officer sprays innocents and journalists
Act 4: Officer radios in – mission accomplished
Now, the group surrounding this event could have easily stopped the “anarchists”, but didn’t. They could have easily pulled the masks off of the 3, but didn’t. They could have done more than complain and take pictures, but didn’t.
That’s the problem I see with this country. Everyone here is all talk, no action. If I saw a woman being raped, the last thing I’d think of grabbing is a camera, the first thing – a baseball bat. The general feeling I get is that people are more willing to wait for Superman to come save them than to solve their own problems. Meanwhile, the house burns down around them.
September 5th, 2008 at 11:26 am
WTF
September 5th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Cheney propagating war in the Ukraine today, 9/05/08, is an unlawful terrorist act. Enforcing un-Constitutional law and regulation in America is a terrorist act. Illegally occupying a once sovereign nation makes our military an organized mob of international war criminals and terrorists, supplemented with bought and paid for mercenaries.
But “our” most feared “terrorists” are activists who challenge the new world fascist order in Minnesota? How the worm has turned in America!
Hitler’s status-quo advocates enforced his fascist laws, and patriotic Germans applauded his police state law and order approach to life in his new Germany.
Today we have our own patriotic Americans, so called, who would lay down their lives in defense of our police state law and order approach to life in our post-911 new America. These “good Americans”, so called, would call true patriots “terrorist” while condemning their fight for freedom, the same fight our fathers served and died for.
These good fascist slaves can call America’s line of resistance against domestic tyranny a civil war or a revolution or what it actually is- individuals claiming their right to freedom; call it what you will- the fight is on!
If you want an America to fight for, then stop the criminally insane Cheney from starting WW3!
THIS is the day to ante-up with non-violent ACTION! Educate the deluded and make a loud call to the nation- It is NOW or NEVER to fight the only fight life is worth living for!
September 5th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Michael Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Why isn’t there a group of “Citizen Peacekeepers” present at these events to conclusively identify “anarchists.”
Stay with me.. Imagine for a moment, a group of individuals to “detain” or perform citizens arrest on some masked-asshat who decides to break windows and start fires. That person is detained, unmasked, photographed, and fingerprinted for future identification. Any “agent provocateurs” would be quickly identified.
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oh so now you want to do the work of the NWO for them ???
you people really are fucked in the head seriously.
what will it take to make you understand, your government is not listening to you, they dont care what you have to say,
as long as its only talk and cardboard signs, they can totally ignor you, and the ones that shout a little bit too loud can be detained under terrorism laws.
your nuts seriously NUTS!!!!
im sorry if i come across as conceited but you embarris me, what does your own government do when:
A) they tell you to do something
B) they tell another country to do something
i will tell you seeing as you dont seem to understand, they use force to make you do it.
but when you the people want something :
you ask, then ask, then ask then ask, then ask , then ask, then ask, then ask
and what ??? NOTHING!!!! they pay no attention to you, they are not fucking interested.
and here is the laughable thing you put these people in power to carry out the will of the people.
guess what, there not interested in your will, they couldnt care less what you want, only what good for their bank accounts.
September 5th, 2008 at 11:58 am
THE MUPPET SHOW
I’m sorry that I “embarris”, when you should be EMBARRASSED by your terrible spelling. That said, would you rather be part of a crowd getting arrested because some asshat throws a trashcan through a business window? How does that help your cause? I’m all for protesting and boycotting, but how does slashing tires, starting fires or destroying a Macy’s window get back at the NWO? Short answer, it doesn’t! Long answer, IT DOESN’T.
On the other hand, you see some pissbrain slash tires in front of you and you pull off his mask snap a photo and find that he’s a cop. Identified, he has two options: 1. Claim that he was acting of his own volition. Or 2. Name his commanding officer that gave him the order to provocateur.
Result of claiming responsibility (officers option 1) – criminal record – destruction of property – inciting a riot – whatever
Result of naming names (officers option 2) – shit starts rolling up hill – CO names his CO and so on until the real perpetrator is revealed.
Doing their work for them? Hardly! I’d stop an “anarchist” to protect MY GOOD NAME. I’ll not be labeled an anarchist because I would’ve done something to stop it.
This shit wouldn’t happen here in Texas. If someone sets a fire or breaks windows of my business, that person is getting shot. If they survive, they’ll get shot again. My only concern is not blowing off their face or fingers. Fingerprinting is easier when the person is dead.
Would you slash tires or start fires? Based on your comments above, my guess is that you would.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
The Republican Party is the Nazi Party. Pass the word.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Soon freedom of speech will be a noose around your neck.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
2012 if we make it that far…
September 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
well michael, you try and make a citizens arrest on an undercover spook and see where you end up lol, you live in fantasy land, its people like you that do fuck all about anything, then bitch and ,moan about how your gonna send a letter to your congressman and make a stand in the name of freedom, give me a fuckin break you dumb fucker, why do you think your government does what the hell it likes to you people ?
because they can because all you ever do is WORDS, no ACTION, waste of oxygen is what you are sunshine, your a fucking disgrace to your so called founding fathers who had the guts to take action, an absolute fucking disgrace
you and your kind of do nothing nancy arsed chicken shits are useless in times of need.
the only word i need to spell correctly where you are concerned is the one below, because it is you definitive description
DISGRACE.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Jones & Bermas mischaracterize Anarchists as Terrorists.
Why not call provocateurs ‘Provocateurs’?
Why portray Anarchists are ‘Enemy Combatants’?
Who’s really beyond the left-right game?
Gov’t ‘Reformers’ or Gov’t ‘Rejecters’?
Anarchists Reject Gov’t.
Jones & Bermas want to ‘Reform’ it.
That’s why they claim ‘Anarchists’ are violent.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Muppets: I like your style booooooyyyyyyyeeeee!!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I am HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLberationFront: “Fuck It…It’s On!!!” “All Hail Thermal Expansion!!!”
September 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I used to love the US and defend it’s actions… No longer… Your country has become a Nazi state…
Arresting people in their homes and throwing them in jail, all because they are organizing a demonstration. I thought Free Speech was a sacro-sanct right in your country…
I never thought I would see the day where I would look UP to the USSR and DOWN on the US.
And the criminals in the white house wont be happy untill they start WWIII with russia.
What the F**K is wrong with you people! Impeach Bush and Cheney NOW before it is too late!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Im worried for Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura they may very well be considered Terrorists under the Patriot act.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Sounds like the FBI should be added to the Terror Watch List, along with the CIA.
September 5th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Her name is Amy Goodman, and throwing fermented feces isn’t peaceful.
For me the main point here is, “agents provocateurs.” Were the alphabet soup agencies infiltrating the groups, or did thet actually start the groups, themselves?
September 5th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
The real terrorist groups are the likes of the skull society, the freemasons (at least at the high levels), the bohemian club, the trilateral commission, the council on foreign relations, federal banks, etc… who cook up all of this rhetoric and war and enslavement of humanity. A lot would be solved to simply make secret societies illegal and branded as terror groups. Our list of grievances should include this as a demand. Organize a national strike!
September 5th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
What the hell is wrong with the government? Quakers, Mennonites, and Amish people are the most peaceful, domesticated cultures left in this country. It is the only place I will buy dairy, or meat or lumber for that matter. They’re a good, honest, hard working people, and I will lump them all together because I haven’t found one yet that didn’t fit that criteria. I live about a half mile from the Mason DIxon Line and we have alot of Mennonites, Amish, and further north a hair, the Quakers. The government is always trying to bury these humble, godly folk in regulations and bureaucracy. This is sour grapes, they better think real hard about that, because the hammer will drop on you so fast, you won’t know if your ass is bored or punched. You keep pushing, I’m telling you the good people, will join up and you will have insurrection. So Langley, polished brass, assholes, better reevaluate their game plan, or re- test your theories in one of those think tanks, before your plebes deserve a civilian sponsored correctional booster. When sons of bitches go around picking fights with people who are vowed to non-violence, they tend to get sucker punched by good samaritans from behind. Bullies don’t last long, in a fair fight, just like stool-pigeons deserve pine overcoats, because they are cowardly, with no honor.
September 5th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
All you kooks need sent to concentration camps
September 5th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
do not demonstrate, since that’s what they are prepared for
that’s what they like you to do,
so they can insult, spray, hit, kick, torture, rape, kill you
they have NO weapon against love
what you can do, is triggering fights among themself
so try to divide their ranks
they only hold together out of fear for eachother, not because they understand what harmony means,
if they would understand what harmony means, they would not put power upon their
brothers and sisters
they like to hurt the weakest among us, the children
because the little child whithin themselves has been hurt all long
September 5th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
JEL KIG KOH, YOU STUPID FUCK!!!!!! I AM SURE THERE IS A PLACE FOR YOU IN ONE OF HUNDREDS OF FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS BUILT FOR STUPID AMERICANS WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD. I HOPE YOU WILL BE ONE OF THOSE, INFACT I AM SURE OF IT BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
To #74.
If you hadn’t noticed, there is a pretty decent sized movement going along, trying to get Bush and Cheney impeached. But guess what? You never hear about it! I love how people from other countries can say “do this or do that!” as if we can individually impeach, or do something about our administration. Let me give you a reality check, WE CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. We could protest, but we would most likely either not receive media time, or be labeled as something negative, so that the mainstream idiots will side with whatever the hell Fox News tells them.
Technology as gone too far for us to do anything about this. Information is shared almost instantly. We have no chance against them. Do you want to know who “them” are?
1. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
2. National Security Agency (NSA)
3. National Reconnaissance Office
4. National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
5. Defense Intelligence Agency
6. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
7. Department of Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis
8. Defense Information Systems Agency
9. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency
10. Defense Protective Service
11. Defense Security Service
I’m going to stop there because I think you get the point.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
THIS IS INSANE LIARS FASCIST PIG EATING SHIT. SICK OF YOUR LIIES
Based it all on crap They have no right to charge these people and all the informants can kiss my ass. You fricken stupid idiots. we know how you spin this shit. bushs lil pricks
You forgot to mention the civil liberty groups they are fricken liars too.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
I think her name is AMY GOODMAN.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
#83,
There is damn decent amount of people awakening. I sense a shift in this country.
People put us down for blogging, telling us to go “do something.”
But all this blogging and interchange on the Web has gotten the word out. It’s the foundation of the movement. And it’s picking up momentum now, thank God!
September 5th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
THANK YOU – YOU IDIOTS FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE. KEEP KILLING US AND CAUSING CAOS AS WE WILL GROW LARGER OURSELF. WE GOT YOU ALL OUTNUMBERED , WE ARE NO LONGER YOUR SHEEP
ALREADY X-CIA’S X-FBI’S X-MILITARY PERSONEL’S , X-ASTRONAUNT;S, PILOTS , NAVY,ARMY,MARINES AND AIR FORCE ARE SPEAKING OUT.
YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHED AND THE WORLD WILL KNOW THE TRUTH.
WATCH US WAKE UP MORE N MORE
September 5th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
71 They do not say all anarchists are violant, they have said many times tht most are good people, but the ones they bitch about are the low level foot soldier types bought and paid for by the GVT. Most of these orgs have the FBI, CIA or the rest of them inside, especially law enforcement. some Law Enforcement Units are made up and sent out to start the trouble under false flag.
We do want to reform government, because you have to have rules, you have to have some type of government, simple as that.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
godfeat, you are nuts number one, and most cops are at the lower levels and do not understand what they are doing, and why. They go to work, get paid and are just as abused by this system in place. We have to get them on our side, because we need their training and discipline. We need the Military on our side because they outmatch us in weapons, they hve the Aircrafts, RPG’s and tanks, and the patriots cannot stand against that type of firepower.
I have said it before we need an organized, disciplined, and well trained army, not just a bunch of people running around, because they are not conditioned, and that is what we need is conditioned soldiers, who know how to beat them at their own game.
We will have to use the tactics of those against us to win, and we must not fight an honorable battle, we must be ruthless.
When fighting in the streets we must come down to their level, or all is lost. to beat them you must think like them.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
God Is Red should be read and reread by Americans who want to understand why the u.s. keeps losing the peace, war after war.
September 5th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
This borders on thought crimes, no it is thought crimes and that damn patriot act needs to be repealed. Raiding a house without a warrant on a hunch is so against the rights of an individual. Why don’t they have all participants sign a waiver form so the infiltrators can’t hold any of the organizers responsible ,so if they refuse to sign they can’t participate. This could be notorized for legal purposes and a signed disclaimer could keep them from being charged. We have a right to do any kind of protesting and organize as long as it doesn’t break the law or get violent but the provocatuers want to make it seem violent to send a warning to any other groups to back off. Thing is WE WON”T BACK DOWN! Get ready to find new jobs cops because your going to have the shit sued out of you, you dumb asses. The patriot act is unconstitutional therefore null and void dumb asses.
September 5th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
This is martial law
Pre-emptive arrests or pre-emptive wars of aggrestion are the real crimes here and so far they are getting away with it.
September 5th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Here is the deal assholes. I live in Colorado Springs CO. And if ANY of you punk pussy assholes want to talk shit about Alex Jones, or any of my patriotic brothers and sisters who post comments here- you can take it up with me personally bitch-
PARKIN LOT – HARD swapin knuckles be prepared………..- YOUR SHIT IS FUCKIN DONE BITCH.
Have a nice day…………
816 Oxford lane, apartment #408m, CO. springs CO. 80905
Tyveck sawzall mother fucker- hallogen lights. Block & tackle bitch.
September 6th, 2008 at 1:44 am
You do realize that we are all on the Red List, right?
September 6th, 2008 at 2:36 am
#75 “Im worried for Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura they may very well be considered Terrorists under the Patriot act.”
I think this would be a good thing since it would publicise 911 Truth. For this reason I am confident it won’t happen. What does happen is that they get ignored or ridiculed. For example, Ron Paul has never been heard of in the UK on mainstream media.
September 7th, 2008 at 12:05 am
if one follows God (good)…and not satan/evil then what does it matter what religion they are?
Muppet Show, you are probably a Fed. And a bigoted one at that. Or do they pay you to say inflammatory things?
A bit off the subject:
I hope Muppet Show and the rest of you Feds are grateful for your Federal Employees health plan, options for early retirement, good pension, and excellent vacation and benefit package courtesy of the taxpayers. Yours is the best gig going in the States by far. Funny how those in the government manage to get all of the above, while the rest of us poor working sods are losing it all (if we haven’t already lost it, most have) in a sickening race to the bottom.
September 7th, 2008 at 12:23 am
As for this Federal Terrorist bullshit, as a citizen who takes my responsibilities seriously, I simply will not and do not recognize their whole Nazi program because it’s unconstitutional.
People looking to take some action can get involved at their state/city level and get ballot initiatives going (or whatever the vehicle for legal change is), that would make it a crime of assault/battery when one of these bully brownshirts goes over the line, because that is what it is, like when the cop pushed the Code Pink woman to the pavement in Denver last week at the DNC. I know most cops are just trying to get by, and they need to be brought over to see the Light if they haven’t already. But, for those who are just straight up bullying, they should reap the same consequences as anyone else who perpetrates an assault when there is no imminent danger. And if they taze someone who isn’t imminently threatening (like the kid in Florida) and harm comes to that person (especially death), guess what? That’s murder. Praise be to all the Jewish (and Christian, Buddhist and Muslim) lawyers who help protect our rights.
September 7th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Here is a civics lesson for all the neocon, neoliberal trolls out there who are taking their marching orders from the band of murderous liars that run the rogue military junta currently occupying this country:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the Right of the People to ALTER or ABOLISH it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such a form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.” Declaration of Independence, United States of America, July 4, 1776
The Bill of Rights, as Provided in the FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, Effective December 15, 1791
(I’m only including the ones that the Powers and Principalities seem to have the most trouble understanding):
Article 1
Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or ABRIDGING the freedom of speech, or of the Press; or THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Article II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Article IV
The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS, AND EFFECTS, AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED, AND NO WARRANTS SHALL ISSUE, BUT UPON PROBABLE CAUSE, SUPPORTED BY OATH OR AFFIRMATION, AND PARTICULARLY DESCRIBING THE PLACE TO BE SEARCHED, AND THE PERSONS OR THINGS TO BE SEIZED.
September 20th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Movie is offline…