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Bible Student Threatened for Teaching Constitution
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
May 12, 2008
On the Alex Jones Show today, a bible student at a large Christian college in Mount Vernon, Texas, related a story of intimidation as Department of Homeland Security goons dressed in black accused him of engaging in terrorism for teaching a group of Boy Scouts about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
The student and interim pastor, going by the name “Jeff,” told Alex Jones he was assigned last September the task of talking to a group of Boy Scouts, specifically concerning “Americanism” in higher education. Jeff told the boys they need to “reorient” themselves to the Constitution because such knowledge will “make or break the country.”
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After tutoring the boys, Jeff was called into the university president’s office. There he was confronted by a “man in black” wearing sunglasses from the Department of Homeland Security who was accompanied by another federal official in a gray suit. In addition, state police were present during the interrogation and Jeff was told the FBI were also involved. Jeff was informed “every word” of his conversation with the Boy Scouts was recorded and he had a transcript of the conversation. Jeff’s talk was, the DHS official in a gray suit declared, “terror and espionage” and if he continued to engage in such behavior he would be arrested and “we can have your head on a silver platter.” Moreover, the feds threatened to intervene in the process of the college’s accreditation, a threat that apparently disturbed a “high level university official,” who was so “agitated” he was shaking.
Alex referenced a Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation flyer, created during Clinton’s reign, “asking the recipients to help them fight domestic terrorism,” according to Angel Shamaya, writing for the Keep and Bear Arms website. The putatively “anti-terrorism” flyer was created by the FBI and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office as part of “a disinformation campaign to paint at least a few groups of Real Americans as domestic terrorists.” According to the flyer, if recipients encounter “defenders of the US Constitution against [the] federal government and the UN,” they are to contact the FBI’s the Joint Terrorism Task Force immediately. Apparently, people who make “numerous references to the US Constitution” and attempt “to police the police” are to be considered terrorists, according to the FBI.
“According to Terry Chapman of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office — whose name is on the flyer as the MCSO contact — the FBI created the flyer and printed the MCSO [Maricopa County Sheriff's Office] and Attorney’s Office before the text was approved. He said it was created as a full color brochure to hand out to officers, not for the general public — and that as soon as he saw it, he urged them not to use it, knowing it had some problems,” writes Shamaya.
As an example of how the police are now trained to consider constitutionalists dangerous terrorists or at least common criminals, consider the case of Abby Newman, a Virginia woman who refused to show her driver’s license to a state trooper at an illegal traffic checkpoint. Newman did not give the police permission to search her car and thus violate her Fourth Amendment right and when they did the cops discovered a pocket Constitution. So brainwashed an ignorant were the cops, they had a discussion on the legality of the pocket Constitution, labeling it “contraband,” and unsure if they should arrest Newman for possessing the book.
“Abby Newman was arrested for not showing ID in August 2000 and fell victim to an illegal vehicle search in which police found items of subversive literature, including a ‘pocket Constitution,’” write Aaron Dykes and Alex Jones. “One officer asked the other ‘Is this legal?,” an “[e]gregious misinterpretation and abuse perpetrated by the very members of society supposedly in place to guarantee our freedoms.”
Of course, these “members of society supposedly in place to guarantee our freedoms” are in place to do the bidding of the ruling elite, a gaggle of one-world globalists determined to not only decimate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, eradicate the national sovereignty of the United States, but also inculcate and brainwash the public to believe such “quaint” freedoms and the very prospect of liberty are dangerous, the treasonous vocabulary of “lone wolves” and “Super Patriots.”
Considering the reaction of the “high level university official” mentioned above, agitated because a student dared teach Boy Scouts about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, it may be too late.
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May 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Americans better get the balls to start putting these goons on notice that in the end THEY will be tride,inprisoned or hung in the gallows for treason and other crimes or violations of their OATH to protect and defend the US Constitution and Bill Of Rights!
May 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
If to have a”pocket Constitution” on one’s self is a matter of discusion as to legality, we are really in a state of Fascism!!!!!! She should have shot the pig for being a traitor!
May 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
There’s only so much more we can take… I’ve resorted to singing the message to the masses.
Check out my tune ‘brave new world’ at the website http://www.myspace.com/thehitchcockcurse
May 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Absolutely…we can’t afford to cower to this.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is sick. I owuld be afraid but i’m too pissed.
Just point me in the right direction and tell me who to fight!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
how this person could sit there and take it and listen to thier crap andnot imeadiatly inform the agent that he was in fact comiting high treason and he was not told his ass was grass if he ever botherd him again about it is cowardly i my self have been in the same type of situations and can barely contain myself god help em if the ever bother me again
May 12th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Down with the Federal Government! Power to the states, and to the people! Long live Constitutionalism! Long Live TRUE AMERICANISM!!
PATRIOTS – OUR TIME NEARS. Each and every day that we are silent and un organized, our situation worsens, and when the time truly comes that our oppression becomes unbearable, we may find it impossible to shake loose the tyranny…
Arm yourselves.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
To Arms!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If the above is true then we do have a big problem, and Americans among us who claim that the universities are not educating these insane products of former matriculated idiots are right. Without laws we are all identified criminals guilty or not, and terrorized to foot all their non-productive payrolls to include the politicians who call this injustice a whole new industry, dispossessed of the education to comprehend the laws they are paid to uphold, and lacking the intelligence to know right from wrong! -Al Koppel.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
This is the perfect example of a government school education. Homeland security has federalized our local police departments.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
It has begun.
Now is not the time for fear, it is the time for strength and courage. It is time to take up the fight begun by our forefathers who sacrificed everything so we could be free. It is now our turn to sacrifice everything so our children and their children and their children’s children can be free.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
This crap is ridiculous.
If they come see me dressed in black, that is one less thing the undertaker will have to
do for em.
I have seen this video before but what do ya expect from a
Pig who is a graduate from govt indoctronation center?
f---in Pigs!!!!
A Patriot is a militiaman who readies himself everyday in quiet fury!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
A CALL TO ALL MEN WHO ARE PATRIOTS!
PREPARE YOUR FAMILY’S FOR SURVIVAL!
PREPARE TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS, TO LIBERATE OUR NATION!
PREPARE FOR WAR!
1. Sell everything you don’t need. (collectibles, antiques, extra cars, pleasure boats etc.)
2. Sell that big house and get out of the mortgage, get out of the city, and get as rural as you can.
3. Get with other people who understand what is going on and are willing to prepare and get ready! Prepare together, design a plan together and work the plan together.
4. Buy yourself a small piece of land, in the boon-docks, near or next to national forest lands. You only need an acre or two, put some kind of dwelling there, a couple old trailers would do, drill a well or find a spring, nothing fancy but very survivable. I have a place with four trailers set up in a square with an open center (circle the wagons). In the center area I have the well drilled and “Square Foot Gardening” set up.
5. Buy storable food and seeds and whatever you need to do your own canning, drying etc.. Bear in mind, you do not have to buy fancy MRE’s or Freeze Dried food (it’s good to have some but expensive). Instead, concentrate on canned goods which have a three year shelf life and dried goods which last even longer. I take all of my dried goods and seal them with a “Seal a Meal” device. By doing your food my way there is one BIG advantage. You still get to enjoy all the foods you like and normally use because that is what you have stored. Note: In order to keep your food fresh once you have your “stash” rotate your monthly grocery needs out of it. Get it? Fresh in, old eaten each month.
6. Pick up some old dirt bike motorcycles and bicycles for transportation. I was able to get each person an old motorcycle and bicycle (mountain bike) plus, by buying the same models I was able to get repair parts that would work on all of them (same spark plugs, air cleaners etc.).
7. Each person needs a weapon (preferably one that can be used for both hunting and fighting, be sensible) and a minimum of 200 rds. of ammunition each (use the same calibers if possible).
8. Be sure everybody in your group has a light weight back pack or “bug out bag” already packed for quick escape if needed. DO NOT ALLOW THIS BAG TO EXCEED 25% OF THE PERSON’S BODY WEIGHT WHO WILL USE IT! Pack light, Pack right, Pack for flight!
Please understand that the above information is not all inclusive, it’s a begining, it’s basic. And DO NOT think you will be able to “Live Off The Land” at least not for any length of time. Wild animals for food is not and will not be plentyful once this hits. In fact, I don’t give our wild animal populations more than a couple of months before they will be extinct in many areas (hunted out of existance). Don’t believe me? You better! I have seen this before, thousands of people starving moved across the land eating virtually everything in site like locusts. Nothing was left including insects!!!
I spent over thirty years (starting in Viet Nam) doing and teaching this stuff. Please listen, and more importantly, please take action.
God Bless You
May 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Are death threats legal now? How did nobody stand and defend this guy from his school? No legal charges are pressed against these unbeknownst?
May 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Maybe that guy should call theACLU and file a harassment lawsuit. As Alex says LITIGATE.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Anyone know what Bible College this is? Haven’t been able to find one in Mount Vernon, TX.
Would like to follow up on this. – Thx
May 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
So is teaching US History against the law now too? – To teach it as it happened? It makes me wonder if the students lesson plans have changed in the last 30 years. I would like to do a cross comparison of a text book from the 70’s, 80’s compared to today. wow.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Is it a REAL story!!!!!! Smells fishy!!! WTF OVER!!!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
THIS SITUATION IS PART OF THE “NEW AMERICAN THEOLOGY OF CIVIL SUBMISSION.”
IT WILL GET MUCH WORSE BEFORE IT GETS ANY BETTER….
May 12th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
…Ah-bdi… Gosh !!! If you were to teach Vedanta philosophie , there goes your…bdi…balls !!!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
EVERY Person needs to go forth and speak up! Do not go out and rant&rave, other people that are not aware of the NWO will not hear you. If you speak softly and clearly many more will hear the message! This is such a important message, and our time grows short. If you are courages go into your local cop shop and give each police officer a copy of a Citizens rule book, with the Constitution in it. You may be surprised how many smiles and handshakes you will get from the officers. I was!
May 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Colleges/universities with over 2000 students nearest to Mount Vernon:
* TYLER JUNIOR COLLEGE (about 47 miles; TYLER, TX; Full-time enrollment: 5,872)
* TEXAS A & M UNIVERSITY-COMMERCE (about 48 miles; COMMERCE, TX; FT enrollment: 4,998)
* KILGORE COLLEGE (about 61 miles; KILGORE, TX; FT enrollment: 2,814)
* THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT TYLER (about 62 miles; TYLER, TX; FT enrollment: 2,433)
* TRINITY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE (about 81 miles; ATHENS, TX; FT enrollment: 2,858)
* UNIVERSITY OF DALLAS (about 97 miles; IRVING, TX; FT enrollment: 2,400)
* SOUTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY (about 99 miles; DURANT, OK; FT enrollment: 3,165)
May 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I have searched the Internet and I cannot find any Bible college in Mount Vernon, Texas. This story needs to be documented more thoroughly to be believable.
May 12th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
#13: RUN WHERE????? Your advice is great but….actually…run where? Randy Weaver lived in a remote area of the U.S. The least populated areas will be dealt with First!!! When the SHFAN easier to deal with less before going for more! 101ABN A BTRY 2/44ADA HUA!!!!
May 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
So what are the people involved doing to defend themselves? These are the people who need to make a stand. If they do nothing it will just get worse for the rest of us.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Don’t be brainwashed, the problem is simple. You carry a f---ing gun, and if suits show up telling you the Constitution is terrorism, and teaching it and encouraging it’s study is illegal, you simply shoot them right in the f---ing head.
There is NO f---ING AROUND WITH THIS. The time to defend liberty is NOW. What these suits did is ILLEGAL and TREASON. I don’t care who the f--- they think they are, or who they say they work for. Just shoot them right in the f---ing head without disscussion or hesitation. If we continue to tolerate this illegal harrasement and treason, the end result is death anyway.
At least have the courage to draw down and tell them to get the f--- off your property. Any good attorney could beat this rap.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
“Bring it on”!
Nuff said
A Patriot is a militiaman who readies himself everyday in quiet fury!
May 12th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
A CALL TO ALL NATIONS WHO ARE NOT YESHUAISTS!
PREPARE FOR YOUR FATE!
1. Sell everything you have and set your cash on fire.
2. Form a house church, get out of society, get out of christianity, and become a Yeshuaist.
3. Get with other people who are Yeshuaists and get ready! Prepare for judgement.
4. Pick up an English version of the Torah.
5. Each person needs Yeshua.
6. Be sure everybody in your group is a Yeshuaist.
Shalom and Maranatha.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
This story needs way more info… to be legit. who’s kirt nemmo? If the guy already went on the show, its already out there anyways. According to Google and Google maps there are no bible or Christian Colleges in this city; only many miles away in larger cities.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Notice also, these goons dressed in black with dark sunglasses like “Agent Smith” from the f---ing matrix, did not identify themselves, or what departments they represented, or how the hell they got the information.
Some idiots still think we are not under tyranny, the illusion of freedom still protected in their minds- a sponge of filtration and denial.
These assholes are OUTRIGHT telling you that the CONSTITUTION IS ILLEGAL.
Yet our asshole monkey boy President still swears an oath to it, then turns around and says-
“It’s just a God damned piece of paper!!!”
I got news for you people, we are under full blown tyranny right now, and it’s only gonna get worse. 26,000 pastors recruited getting PAID and bribed off by FEMA to con their sheeple into submitting to dictatorship, takeover, and camp roundups? It’s off the charts!!!!!!!!!
May 12th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
guardian, please remove comment #27 for me, thanks in advance.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I would of got these guys to ID themselves.
The whole ‘OOOOhhh arent we scary’ routine only works while they remain anonymous.
13*
May 12th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Are all our law enforcement agents now just englishman who learned to speak american? I think so, maybe theyre russians and bush is really a sellout. Who knows its not looking good though if a pastor cant teach some kids history, and pass on good morals and outlook. no rather your threatened like they do in some third world country, When in fact its their dominance that imposes treachery, tyranny and certainly in all real americans, no fear but hate and a hope to see them all fired, and perhaps tried under the constitution and bill of rights, for violations against them.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Again, Im not rushing to believe some random dude that called into a radio show, that now has become some sort of “fact”, then “proven” with a 2-5 year old youtube video that has nothing to do with the case.
Just heard on the Ferrel show, Some guy from BC canada says that the scientologists can read his mind, and they are in his head, saying they want him dead, so he has been hiding in the mountains for 10 years. (even though they should know where he is, since they read his mind)
You guys want to believe that story too?
You people need to stop believing EVERYTHING you read
May 12th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
#34 Ranger, did you listen to the show Sunday or today? Until you do, try to keep an open mind, because he didn’t call in randomly by himself.
May 12th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
The masons know from the bible and other visions that there is an event timeline..its obvious from that that this perhaps all this bad and supposedly good stuff we share in sane world springs. The rightious call them wicked when the rightious are wicked themselves and disengenuous. And like two opposing manget ends you chase each other around in circles “your evil” “no your evil” “no your good” etc..and if i might say humbly..its nothing at all you seek in that state. A void. And is what is generall acepted as hell. When a creature no longer relies on joy and moves into animal mode, he/she/it. Loses control of body and mind connections and situations becomes tense and violent rather than thinking and calm. Controlling a country from a singular source must be taxing for man who still has issues of his own solve, the only way he knows how under complete social assault, which humbly mr B i have noticed. We all need to consider what American and America mean to the populae who has not suffered the irrational of killing another being other than random insects that do harm like interdimensional dissapearing bees or something. Just really wierd stuff has been happening, all i can relate to is biblical prophecy and put the cahraacters here on earth, in the blanks of the visions from peope who loved before us. To be human is to resist God and satan, and find our own minds seeking. Its what is known already by God and God stated he didnt want a church of fools. Which is how any other higher intelligence would view all churches of the world at this time, if your react to that with a WTF, then you hold pride and expose your heartlessness and dead souls. To the sun of God and the son
May 12th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
There is some weird stuff happening onhere today. This whole section of previous comments disappeared. Server problems? Trolls? Internet 2?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
TXgirl there has been weird stuff happening all weekend to this site.
A Patriot is a militiaman who readies himself everyday in quiet fury!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Yes, I agree with you ?? Says, and yes, research Says, I found those schools (public) also.
There’s plenty of documented case out there to conclude this is happening all the time. I was just looking for more docs/info on this particular case. FYI, Paul Watson on prisonplanet has the same story and says the college is in east Texas and the man in MV is involved with a church there, but wishes anonymity. – Thx
May 12th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Re: #37, & 38, maybe ‘disaster drilling’ from the FEMA & Homeland Security, then. Sure seems like it.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
As American citizens we are the people and we are supposed to police the police!!! FBI, CIA, NSA, HS, The President… go to hell!!!!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I just looked up My Vernon TX online and found a site for their local newspaper, the Optic Herald, so I called the paper and asked if they had any info about this. What they told me is that there is NO Christian college in MT Vernon TX or anywhere in the vicinity. That the only christian scool in the area is a highschool in Mt Pleasant.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Gabriel calm down a little. In our position it is critical to follow what we preach otherwise we risk being hypocritical. We should use rational thinking to handle thugs.
Article III. – The Judicial Branch
Section 3 – Treason Note
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
#42 I just looked up on Google, and found Jarvis Christian College south of Mount Vernon. There are more as well. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Thanks to #42 Matt – Kurt, Paul, I like your work, but any other info on this story?
May 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Millions of us all over the country should walk into the nearest police station — all at the same date and time — and confess to promoting the ideas in the Constitution.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
What hypocracy. This country has gone from proudly teaching the constitution and bill of rights in grade schools as an educational, historic cirriculum to now policing those documents as a form of terrorism by just the mere mention of its existence? The forefathers of this country revolted against far less tyranny from England, and we’re putting up with this? You know something folks, every nation deserves the leaders they refuse to rebel against and tolerate. Oppression, I believe, is a two way street: there are those wgo dole it out and those that put up with it.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
It’s a sad day when teaching our our Constitution is considered treasonous.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
My co-worker and I were ‘joking’ about this exact scenario this morning (no joke) then I came back and saw this article!!! This is too bizarre.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
This is really some serious Happenings. There Taking away OUR Rights first off, to be allowed to have our say for freedom of Speech. This New World Order, is nothing more than a Legalized Hostile Take over of our Country, and Using “Homeland Security’ As their stand to make what they are doing Legal, Only In there eyes. If we Talk out against them, we are considered terrorists? No I am Using what my History teachers In High School Taught me and what My Parents, God Rest there souls, Had me go to school to learn. It doesn’t take Much of an education to see what this Government anymore is heading towards. Makes me understand today, that though my folks are deceased, I’m glad to know there in a MUCH better place, Not having to see what this World is Heading too. My dad faught in WWII, serving in the Army Aire Corp. I’m Sure he’s turning over in his grave knowing what this country and there Political Agenda’s are doing to what this country Faught for and stood for, ONCE. Religion use to be practiced and admired years ago. NOW, it seems as if its a Cardinal Sin to speak Of Christ in public. Why Is that? What are they afraid of? That Christ too, would condone what this world is coming too. Neocons and there Satanic beliefs and practices won’t build there defenses for them? They think they can live forever? Well, the day the Good Lord shows man that he will do as he has “Promised”, In Revelations, Is the day i hope Bush, Cheney and the rest of these Neocons, will see that the Wrath of God will Have his Vengence on the pain and suffering they caused mankind. Man won’t end this world, no matter what Nuclear attacks he drums up. God will end this world , when he is darn well ready. Faith is going to play a BIG Part in how we all Fair through the times im sure will be very hard to handle. Prepare yourselves! Maybe its time people have and learn who God is again. I feel were in a time were even our Faith will be questioned, and possibly our lives in who we honor and pray too. Are you ready for that also? OR Are you going to be a “JUDAS”? do you see that being a Possibilty of happening with what we see already is going on with this “Homeland Security” Ploy there Using. There covering up 9/11 involvement and they are taking any means Neccessary to do JUST THAT! they Have our military in the control now. EDUCATION is the only thing we have left to KNOW what our ”CONSTITUTIONALRIGHTS” are. What Rights are Being Violated and why in the First Place the Constitution was Written and protected for. So a time as we are experiencing in this country that Made Up the constitution, Would know and understand why they defended those rights because they didnt want to be”Enslaved” by there own Government taking over, and doing this with Not allowing Decisions of Congress. They are already taking the control away FROM THE PEOPLE. THATS What this Constitution was written for and signed By our leaders years ago. Its HISTORY Folks, plain, and simple. History that they want to just go away so we have no understanding what they are doing. Each and every Person in this country has a right to protect our rights and not allow This “New World Order” to take our Rights as Citizens of this country away from us. Nazeism is alive and Prospering people, IN THIS COUNTRY. Your President, Bush has and is working His Agenda. Its time they understand This country’s Constitution stands to protect Our rights and privelidges Against those seeking control and Tyranny in our country. Remember, “In God We TRUST.!
May 12th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
As it was said it would come to pass, right has become wrong and wrong right, evil is now accepted as the norm and goodness and compassion almost no longer exist. I used to be skeptical of the last days scenario but here it is in our face everywhere you turn. Our nation is finished unless a dramatic 180 degree about face is accomplished very soon.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I wish we knew who this brave teacher was, I’d send him a sincere message of support. I hope he is reading this.
May 12th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
google is down in my network everyone reading this should ck theirs and post status been down 20 min known
May 12th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
GANG BANGERS WITH BADGES. Cowards and punks one and all. They are the terrorists.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Somebody should grab the actual constitution to preserve it for the people before they actually burn it. It really can’t be considered stealing considering the fact that they are not using it, more like lifting something out of somebody’s garbage can
May 12th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
#42 – Wrong! There is East Texas Baptist University in Marshall, TX. VERY close to Mt. Vernon!
May 12th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I have expected this and worse for a long time. Most people are sheep and believe the crap that the controllers put out. The New World Order is here, lets hope that the New American Revolution is as well. We the People need to Unit and Fight all the organizations of the New World Order.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Well God is ultimately authority not “enemies domestic” which they have contorted, attempting to use against adamantly right to display patriotism as a (percieved by the individual) free person’s right, but since the real domestic enemies and terorists are those whom gave instruction to those particular left cerebral brainwashed, civil servant,(cops) forgetting they are to serve;replacing this with (the actual city, county planners, elected official as also beaurocrat, that) would use such false obtained junta or coup agression upon the citizens, by giving such orders! These especially tied-in with the NWO bunch or Bildebergers!
Well, when God’s king David, went forth as a shephard and a mere lad, and David picked smooth stones from the brook, just as in the prophet Daniel’s entrepretation of king Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. When God having made a perfect stone threw it at those feet of clay and iron mixed, and down tumbled the entire edifice of (heathen) government! Planet X or Nibiru and the brown dwarf star, returning to earth close proximity, with dates 12/21/2012 and 02/14/2013 as apocolyptic due to seismic and weather influenced very strongly by these returning then passing gravitational abberrations, solar flares, polar-shift. This long prophecied event, when they (the wicked)shall say to the mountains fall on us and to the hills cover us, and shall seek to hide in holes in the earth and caves, where He will find them. Afterward, we may see the coming of the son of man, the sun of righteousness, in His glory! A new day, a blessed time, when those that survive will be very rare and precious, changed. Remember, at present, we do not fight against, but with powers and principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places! We and our children, have been fighting them since time immemorial. We shall be set free,…one day! God arranged clear prophecy of this.
May 12th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I find this whole thing disgusting and contrary to every value with which I was raised. I am an ardent Christian who is proud of his faith and I admire Barack Obama as a CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR. This matter of singling out people for teaching the CONSTITUTION is INSANE. TARGETING GOOD LOYAL AMERICANS FOR BEING SOLID CHRISTIANS IS EQUALLY DISGUSTING.
All I can say is, does HOMELAND SECURITY and any of these people have any sense of shame?
Let me guess, I am going to abandon the value system I that was inculcated into me by scholars and theologians for submission to the fukk up Dept. of Homeland Security that could not respond to the humanitarian mess of Katrina in a proper and timely manner? For shame. I weep for this stupid county.
My country has always stood for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and no one is going to tell me otherwise. Learning the origins and brilliance of the Constitution is fascinating in itself. What next, are they going to rip out the originally encased copy from the National Archives?
Sorry if I sound harsh, but I do cherish these values and contrary to what Alex and others might think, most Americans are strong in their beliefs and not about to surrender them to the FAUX DHS.
No teacher should be dragged in and questioned by goons for teaching the Constitution. He is my brother in Christ and I am indignant over this.
Let’s not see this nation debased any further. I am not angry just expressing justifiable outrage. What was done is not a function of government. PERIOD.
May 12th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Nice work 56 Virtualk. That could be it. Be nice to know for sure and email the president to offer support for his and the U’s stand for the Constitution. Could be part of a big media and baptist awakening.
May 12th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Before long several thousand of us are going to become modern day Paul Revere’s, only this time we will be shouting: “the black suit troops are coming, the black suit troops are coming”!
May 12th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Would be nice to read the transcript. We dont actually know what this guy said. Google pocket constitution
May 12th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
You are right, it may be too late!
We should find out the names of the PIGS that did this and start a letter and email campaign to these pigs and find out what they think of the oath they took to defend the constitution from all enemies.
f--- PIGS,
Da Dude
May 12th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Why didn’t the guy tell them to go f--- themselves. That’s the problem with x-ians. No balls. Surely the only thing this dweeb is afraid of is going to hell.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Could have been a prank. Was it a real state trooper? DHS dudes didn’t show ID? Come-on..can’t swallow that load. Shadowy dudes with Ray-bans coming into your office without an invite can be treated like a hot prowler. Keep your doors locked, keep your 00 near.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Every day I get a deeper feeling of how I need to get free or die trying. I was a cub scout, and then a Webelow. I never finished out. I carried a knife, and was told I could not do so. 1972. I was supposed to be a scout. I already knew how to catch a fish, gut it, scale it, and cook it on a fire. I always had my pocket knife. Then I was so mad at the troop leader that I quit. Even in 1972 they were teaching me how to be an unarmed little pussy. My parents were flabbergasted when they heard me reciting the Pledge Of Allegiance from the plaque on the wall when I was almost three years old! These things are indelibly etched in my heart and mind. I am not afraid. But one of these days ( i pray not) some jackbooted thug is going to be caught gutted scaled, and cooked. If you are a cop, or any sort of law enforcement, attention. Me and God are going to show you the light if you come after me. Tears blind my eyes, yet still I see.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
The feds are f---ing with a hornets nest
They are the terrorist
everyone knows
everyones scared
they wont be afraid when they see
Feds bleed too.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
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Gay Gary – i seen 1 of those INTER-National Police Cars in Des Moines, Iowa. Here about 3 years back. People acted like they didn’t even recognise it or it didn’t click in their heads just what that meant to be their intheir presence. Like? DUH!.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
“INTER-National Police Cars in Des Moines, Iowa.”
??? U.N. you mean?
May 12th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Let’s not give extra importance to our existence. The end of time doesn’t have to come in our lifetimes. We are only as important as our best acts. These acts might be unknown to everyone except to The Almighty.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
This story needs some hard evidence beyond an annon source. The possibility of this being letgit combined with the Detention Center that went online today in Iowa may be evidence that the next wave of the plan for total control is well under way.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
If we cling to life for a reason other than pleasing The Almighty by doing what is good then we need to reexamine the famine and educate our inner mate.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Tim, are you talking about an unmarked or marked squad car? Are these the same entities flying around in the black, unmarked helicopters? Did you see who exited the international police car? Just curious, as I work executive protection to the stars and encounter many unmarked vehicles, and cars with diplomatic license plate.
May 12th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
“nevergiveup Says:
“May 12th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Down with the Federal Government! Power to the states, and to the people! Long live Constitutionalism! Long Live TRUE AMERICANISM!!
“PATRIOTS – OUR TIME NEARS. Each and every day that we are silent and un organized, our situation worsens, and when the time truly comes that our oppression becomes unbearable, we may find it impossible to shake loose the tyranny…
“Arm yourselves.”
This seems like good advice.
“Liberty must at all hazard be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and brought it for us at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood.” –John Adams, “A Dissetation on the Canon and Feudal Laws,” 1765
As Churchill put it in his famous speech:
Never give up….
NEVER GIVE UP….
NEVER GIVE UP!
May 12th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Now this is scary.
May 12th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Maybe the time to move is now, whilst they are still ‘ironing out’ problems? Just a thought.
P.S. Make sure you nullify the vaccine chip implants first. Radio frequency meter and neodymium magnets!!!
May 12th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
3 ways to turn everything on the NWO…
1. when you see a cop car follow him and then pull him over. ask to see his ID and if he refuses taser him
2. don’t listen to politicians at rallies or wherever they are speaking…TELL THEM TO DROP AND GIVE YOU 10. if they don’t, accuse him of being an undisciplined crook and tell him he is fired!
3. ask your teacher at a public school if he or she knows anything about the new world order or any of the other info on this website. if they say no tell your teacher that you know more than them and that you aren’t listening to any more of their lies
May 12th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
what about those goon agents didnt they take an oath of office to protect and defend the constitution, so help me GOD if they did not then they are agents of a foreign government and they should be the ones who should be arrested for terrorism, what a bunch of stupid f---s.
May 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
All the more to teach it.
May 12th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Did they show those illegals in Iowa the guillotine?
May 12th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
She says on the clip, ‘your orders are null and void’. Hey pigs and your hired dogs, if your orders are overbearing and against my God given Constitutional rights, we don’t have to listen. You come gunning for for my fellow brother and sister Patriots, someone still might have the courage and the will to show you what a real American is all about. I’m not a proponant of violence, but I am proposing citizen arrest and to disarm and detain rogue law enforcement combatants. That is what it’s coming to and quickly. Tyranny knows no sovereignty. These idiots don’t know any better, but they will catch on quick, with an angry mob holding them to the ground. Normal people can still blush, but will these psychos and strong arms. No they will fire the first shot, and you can defend yourself still. This won’t stop, till we the people, make it stop. One way or the other.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
On my honor, I will do my best
‘To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake and morally straight.’
Scout’s motto
I didn’t notice placate thought police and their hired goons when I spoke the pledge all those years. Considering I went from from tiger all the way to full scout, they never told me to follow a Couped government or a domestic threat to Constitutionality. But they did teach me about responsibility, citizenry, my god given rights, plus to target shoot with bows and rifles. This scout won’t follow a rogue pack of infiltrators and usurpers.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
HEY , GANG! arrested for teaching the CONSTITUTION???? This is total COMMUNISM! And by the way, I would have told these NAZIS the truth! In other words ” GET LOST! ” Its time we start to open our mouths, and use our freedom of speech rights. LETS BE REAL— the minute men would have not stood by amd accepted such trash, and David was not intimidated by Goliath! IF THIS EVER HAPPENS TO ME, MY MOUTH WILL BE IN GEAR. these evil bastards are on their way to hell, and I will use my bible and my bill of rights to the max!! dino.
May 12th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Scary.
May 12th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
TIME TO FIGHT SOON!!
Check out “Chain Upon The Beast” at: http://www.myspace.com/defydacoup
May 13th, 2008 at 12:10 am
The Boy Scouts and their teachings are a THREAT to the Peace and Good order of society?
This will do more damage to the Police State than when Waco burned to the Ground!
My prayers are with You Jeff!
May 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Because our education system redefines words, and their meanings, the simple knowledge and understanding of us ‘over fifty folk’s may have, is gone from the younger generations.
Freedom… Liberty…. Sovereignty….Republic…. Individual… Most don’t the meanings as our
Founding Fathers taught.
It is prophesied in the book of Isaiah that a man will be held criminal for a word.
Please…Be careful. Be prayerful. Be watchful.
God Bless Thanks Alex and your crew for all the knowledge and blessings that you bring.
Wendy
May 13th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Uh huh. So why did this guy, who just one day earlier told children to stand up for the Constitution, just roll over and play dead? Why didn’t he tell the thugs in black suites to piss off? If his religious beliefs include fighting for freedom, and I’m guessing it does because he taught this stuff in class, where was his faith in God? Where was his commitment to the principles he believes in? Either the guy is a total fake Christian, and a chicken hawk to boot, or something’s wrong with this picture. The stuff I read on Alex Jones’s web sites is lookingmore and more like fiction.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:42 am
88, I’m starting to feel the same way.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:44 am
And he must be making a pretty penny himself nowadays.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:15 am
By the way, a quick search of “Kurt Nimmo” shows that he’s a “blogger”. Which means that he could be an intelligent, honest man with plenty of journalistic morals, or he could be a nose picking teenager living in his mom’s attic. My guess is he’s somewhere in between. I read that he wrote a book which has actually been published, but it was published by Dandelion Books, which is totally online. Also, if you take a closer look at the “bylines” you’ll see that the publications he’s writing for are all online and free. In other words, the man is sending copy to web sites (probably for no pay) and they are posting his writings. We should be very careful about believing him, because what he does looks more like internet posting than legitimate publishing. I’m not saying he’s wrong about everything, but I am saying that he could be a guy sitting at his kitchen table, writing what is essentially, fiction. We just don’t know. About the only thing I can say for sure is that I didn’t see the names of any reputable publishing companies or journalistic organizations associated with him. So judge his stuff with careful consideration.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:40 am
ItsMike, And you think Fox News or any other news organization including print, that is “ligit” in your book is not lying to you????
FRICK IDIOT WAKE UP!!! The courts have made a precedent were Fox News and all other news organizations have the 1st Amendment right to lie, mislead and totally make up news stories to the people!
DO SOME FRICKING RESEARCH!!!!!
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
DO MORE THAN JUST QUICK SEARCHES, DO REAL RESEARCH MORON!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:47 am
When did I mention Fox?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:24 am
Also, FYI #92, you can still get that great coffee taste, but without all the caffeine if you swich to Yuban. Just thought you’d like to know.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:34 am
Um…Nimmo is a journalist for this site. Works for Alex I believe. So regardless how young he is…he does a good job of cranking the articles out on the important topics. So no..he is not just a blogger. If he wasnt a respectable journalist with some integrity…alex would not have him posting articles here. By the way…um…did you hear the interview this information all came from?
Publishing is publishing. Internet or not. I think he is a fine writer. I gain some knowledge from the articles he publishes.
come together….right now
May 13th, 2008 at 4:42 am
JarsofClay-”come together…right now”- I like that man, that’s what I’ve been saying too. Stop sweating the small stuff and lock it up- we’re all in this together.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:55 am
Many christians believe the false doctrine of the rapture thats for lazy americain christians a freind told me that he knows some christians? in his church maxing out there credit cards for it don´t matter becuase the rapture is comming soon. As a missionary if I would present the good news as many churchs preach God wants you rich etc……… they would look at me strange in the thrid world also this pre-tribuation rapture many christians have died in the thrid world for there faith. I think many christians oin america are in a rude awakeing when they start to put them in fema camps…..
May 13th, 2008 at 7:31 am
Actually, #95, the author does not work for Alex Jones. From what I could discover on Yahoo he makes his living as a photographer. You can also find this same article posted on many different web sites, it’s not exclusive to Infowars at all. In fact, I’m sure it’s being posted and reposted all over the place. If you submitted an essay to infowars you might get “published” as well. Blogging is not the same thing as, for instance, writing for a newspaper. My point in all this is to remind people that anyone can sit down at a computer and write stuff for the Internet, but that doesn’t mean it’s worth anything. This particular story strikes me as phony. It might not be, but it reads that way to me. And after doing a quick search for the author, I found out that he is not a professional journalist. That doesn’t mean he’s a hack, it just means that he might not be what you think he is. That’s both the beauty and the curse of the Internet. Anonymous people can write anything they want and millions of other can see it. But just because you see something on your computer screen doesn’t make it true. I’m not bashing Alex or even this Kurt Nimmo guy. I’m just saying be a little cautious before jumping onto someone’s bandwagon. You might find out you’re being taken for a ride.
May 13th, 2008 at 7:45 am
The Abbey Newman case is from 2000 (according to the time-stamp on the video) … the Supreme Court has since ruled that cops have a legal right to demand to know a person’s identity. … So what happened to Ms Newman is all moot now.
As to the rest, gov’t officials are in a doctrinal bind because, yes, according to their definition of terrorism, the founding fathers were terrorists. The Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism against the British taxing authority. So most definitely was the armed resistance at Lexington. Paul Revere’s ride was an incitement to terrorism.
The Feds’ problem is that they are sworn to uphold the Constitution, which says it’s OK for the people to oppose tyranny. This is a basic contradiction, because one man’s tyrant is another man’s King George. And most Feds nowadays believe that by working for King George, they are working for the American people. To them, “national security” means — not your security or mine — but security of the national power structure. To them, if the continent were reduced to a smoking ruin, America would still exist so long as elements of the federal government continued to survive in an underground bunker in Colorado.
If this were America circa 1789, and the founding fathers were writing a Patriot Act, they would draw a distinction between the rights of US citizens and foreigners. It’s impossible for an American to commit a thought crime under the Constitution. Free speech implies free thought. Any thought. If Americans want to think like Communists, Nazis, or banana Republicans, that is their right under the Constitution. The troopers in the Newman video are clearly violating her right to think what she pleases as they debate whether they can confiscate her books.
McCarthy and his ilk de-legitimized the right of free thought by asserting the right to prosecute US citizens who thought like Communists. The “House Un-American Activities Committee” is an oxymoron as US citizens are “American” by birthright, not by virtue of “correct thinking.”
We are all paying the price in loss of basic liberties for this. How many Americans today support the absolute right of US-born Muslims, Christian Dominionists, Communists, homosexuals, or neo-Nazis, for example, to freedom of thought and expression?
May 13th, 2008 at 8:57 am
The Constitution is the document whereby the government derives its authority FROM THE PEOPLE.
If the government has now made itself the enemy of the people, then WHERE IS IT CLAIMING AUTHORITY FROM?
Does it derive its authority from God?
NOPE
Does it derive its authority from the barrel of a gun?
YEP
May 13th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I would like to hear exactly what he said about the constitution.
May 14th, 2008 at 2:58 am
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Josh Taylor Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
A CALL TO ALL NATIONS WHO ARE NOT YESHUAISTS!
PREPARE FOR YOUR FATE!
1. Sell everything you have and set your cash on fire
2. Form a house church, get out of society, get out of christianity, and become a Yeshuaist.
3. Get with other people who are Yeshuaists and get ready! Prepare for judgement.
4. Pick up an English version of the Torah.
5. Each person needs Yeshua.
6. Be sure everybody in your group is a Yeshuaist.
Shalom and Maranatha.”
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Right. And while you’re at it remember any other name than Jesus Christ is bogus, the rewards will be hell fire, so while you’re at it remember blasphemy is unpardonable, influencing others will hold you accountable, Ritual is just pagan, mindless, demon worship.
I believe you are a Zionist/Catholic betrayer, a fake jew, Illuminati trained shill in the synagogue of satan, a control freak and Yeshua is a bastard pagan god.
Repent of your sins now as you are seriously in danger of suffering the wrath of God. You will beg for death but death will not come. I sincerely hope you will stop this madness of yours and realize deeds are NOT what puts your name in the Book of Life. You are into Group Evil.
May 14th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
So yeah, about your article! They do not call the stuff contraband in the video, they actually say it is “not contraband” so listen a little more carefully. And the other cop actually says none of the stuff is “illegal”, if you are going to use a video to prove your point try listening a little closer. I dont like cops but come on now.
May 14th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Actually, one of the cops said that a book or article had been outlawed, and in that case, he could keep it. So if the article in question was outlawed, and he believes in the fabricated laws he enforces, why would he want to be in possession of said article? Double talk…
May 15th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Said that a book or article had been outlawed? Where do they say a book or an article? The cops simply say “Now this, they have actually outlawed”. Ok so what is this? They don’t say book or article. So now you are assuming they are talking about a book or an article. The you tube video seems to have been edited as well so, there could be things in the car that someone with a computer and a video might not want you to see, so they can try to make a point. Again I am not a fan of cops but, you are trying to use a YOU TUBE video to prove a point come on now. Where are the real facts? Facts that are not on a webpage made by someone with an opinion. If you believe a webpage then I am going to make a website that insists the sky is green and people would probably believe it.
May 15th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I have been searching and have found no college in Mount Vernon, Texas. Did the reporters check this out before going with the story?
May 17th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Christianity is demonic worship.
I believe you are still blaspheming Yeshua’s true holy name. Christ is a Assyrian Sun god.
I sincerely hope you will stop this Assyrian cross and fish idol worship before you and the universe get destroyed by YHWH’s fire. You are into Assyrian Sun God idol worshipper. Convert to Yeshuaism now before the judgement of YHWH.
May 17th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
To Him Belongs The Most Beautiful Names.
May 20th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Josh Taylor, see its people like you that create a divide in the free world with your extremist views on religion. To me your little rant there sounds absolutely ridiculous but, I don’t care what religion you practice if it makes you happy so be it. I am a christian and I am perfectly happy with my life and what I practice. Maybe you shouldn’t concern yourself with other peoples business and what other people do and just focus on your own business and yourself, then maybe we wouldn’t have radical extremist that want to destroy america because we simply don’t believe in the same religion.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Do not click on ass of Heathen worship .Virus!
May 20th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Better than ‘ass of molech worship’ eh George and Spanky????