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Neocons Now Love International Law
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Robert Parry
Consortium News
August 12, 2008
It’s touching how American neoconservatives who have no regard for international law when they want to invade some troublesome country have developed a sudden reverence for national sovereignty.
Apparently, context is everything. So, the United States attacking Grenada or Nicaragua or Panama or Iraq or Serbia is justified even if the reasons sometimes don’t hold water or don’t hold up before the United Nations, The Hague or other institutions of international law.
However, when Russia attacks Georgia in a border dispute over Georgia’s determination to throttle secession movements in two semi-autonomous regions, everyone must agree that Georgia’s sovereignty is sacrosanct and Russia must be condemned.
U.S. newspapers, such as the New York Times, see nothing risible about publishing a statement from President George W. Bush declaring that “Georgia is a sovereign nation and its territorial integrity must be respected.”
No one points out that Bush should have zero standing enunciating such a principle. Iraq also was a sovereign nation, but Bush invaded it under false pretenses, demolished its army, overthrew its government and then conducted a lengthy military occupation resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths.
The invasion of Iraq also wasn’t a spur of the moment decision. In the months after the 9/11 attacks, Bush proclaimed an exceptional right of the United States to invade any country that might become a threat to American security or to U.S. global dominance. [For details, see Consortiumnews.com’s “Bush’s Grim Vision” or see our book, Neck Deep]
When asked questions about international law, Bush would joke: “International law? I better call my lawyer.”
The neocons’ contempt for international law goes back even further – to the 1980s and the illegal contra war against Nicaragua and the invasion of Panama. Only in the last few days have the neocons discovered an appreciation for multilateral institutions and the principles of non-intervention.
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Despite this history, leading U.S. newspapers don’t see hypocrisy. Instead, they have thrown open their pages to prominent neocons and other advocates of U.S.-led invasions so these thinkers now can denounce Russia while not mentioning any contradictions.
On Monday, the Washington Post’s neoconservative editorial writers published their own editorial excoriating Russia, along with two op-eds, one by neocon theorist Robert Kagan and another co-authored by Bill Clinton’s ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Holbrooke.
All three – the Post editorial board, Kagan and Holbrooke – were gung-ho for invading Iraq, but now find the idea of Russia attacking the sovereign nation of Georgia inexcusable, even if Georgia’s leaders in Tblisi may have provoked the conflict with an offensive against separatists in South Ossetia along the Russian border.
“Whatever mistakes Tblisi has made, they cannot justify Russia’s actions,” Holbrooke and his co-author Ronald D. Asmus wrote. “Moscow has invaded a neighbor, an illegal act of aggression that violates the U.N. Charter and fundamental principles of cooperation and security in Europe.”
And to top matters off, the authors accused Russia of breaking an even older international covenant: “Beginning a well-planned war … as the Olympics were opening violates the ancient tradition of a truce to conflict during the Games.”
The New York Times ran an op-ed by neocon columnist William Kristol, who also condemned Russia’s aggression without indicating any remorse for his own enthusiasm for U.S. invasions of countries that Washington didn’t like.
Wearing Blinders
While major U.S. news outlets may be comfortable wearing blinders that let them see only wrongdoing by others, the rest of the world views the outrage from Bush and the neocons over Russia as a stunning double standard.
This larger problem is that the Bush administration – along with its neocon allies and many establishment Democrats – have lost any credibility with the world community when it comes to invoking international law.
Bush has applied these legal principles a la carte for years (for instance, ignoring the Geneva Conventions when he chooses), and many longer-serving U.S. officials have viewed events through the lens of American exceptionalism for decades.
For instance, even as the Reagan administration condemned terrorism in the 1980s, it secretly armed the Nicaraguan contras who engaged in acts of terrorism inside Nicaragua. In 1990, when President George H.W. Bush denounced Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, everyone conveniently forgot that he had invaded Panama in 1989.
It has been as if the rules moved on separate tracks, one set for the United States and one set for everyone else – and it was impolite to notice.
Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, however, it has become harder to ignore Washington’s double standards. Also, after the five-plus-year fiasco in Iraq, the Bush administration must confront both the limitations on its own imperial reach and the fact that it has done grave damage to the protocols of international behavior.
As Russia is now demonstrating in its conflict with Georgia, other big powers may want to play by the same do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do rules laid down by the United States.
It is a case of Washington, Bush and the neocons reaping what they have sown.
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August 12th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
NEW WORLD ORDER, its true, lets be honest.. i know, im part of it, im a low level admin for a company setup by the rockerfeller foundation.. they scouted me when i was 18, started with the guise of freemasons, all i can say is.. find high ground.. stockup on food.. munitions.. and pray to whatever god you pray to
August 12th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
http://therealnews.com/t/index.....%3A32%3A04
Great video from http://www.therealnews.com on Russia/Georgia…
August 12th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I read this. Didt like it.
My moms’ side fought the british for this country and my dads side was in russias special guard before 1913. If the neo cons start a nuclear war i will rage gainst them.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
truther99. i have a hard time following you and others who speak along the same lines. u say all u can say is”find high ground…stockup on food…ect.” but could u be a little more detailed about ur inside information. its just too vague for me.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
I’m new to this site, but have been reading it almost daily for just over two weeks, as time allows.
I have to say it has opened my eyes to things i have always suspected, but on a scale i could not imagine.
I ran into a man while shopping with my grandson, who told me that his daughter works for the CIA and then gave me a small piece of info that sometime after the election, if a democrat was elected pres., (we did not know who the dem candidate was going to be then), that there are three bombs of huge magnitude set to go off here in the US within the first year. At first, I didn’t know what to think of it, but it did send my mind on alert mode.
My Brother, sometime after that gave me his copy of Alex Jones Tyranny movie ( no disrepect, i can not remember the full title, i have passed it on to other family members since viewing it). Then I came to this website to learn more. I have to tell you the man at the store has never left my mind. He haunts me now after reading Infowars site. In the state that i live in there is no news about the “Operations” and “Training”. A few months ago there was a report about the military doing a three night drill in downtown. But there was no citizens involved. They came in, in the famous black helicopters, and dropped onto rooftops, then scaled down some buildings and back up them for three nights. They left and the whole thing went away. Never to be mentioned again. I have looked this website over again and again, there is no news about our state. It makes me wonder if we are a target for anniallation. I don’t know.
The first time I heard of the NWO plan was several years ago, and thought it could never happen in a million years, at least not our lifetime. After being here and reading what i have, it seems there is alot more to it than most of us thought. Now am i to believe that NWO means New World Order? Or could it possibly mean “Now We Own . . . . . . .” (you fill in the blank, the correct answer would be “YOU”) ??
August 12th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Bill Krystol looks like the most constipated man on the …. Oh, I forgot . bohemian . I think i just threw
up a little .
August 12th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Bill Krystol i think he looks like a lizard big lips
August 12th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
#1 truther69
Do you still work for the company?
If you do “then how about fucking off, ya slimy cunt”!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
The snakes start to eating one of each other
The NWO it is self-annihilator
God’s means it
August 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Looks to me he’s a Manchurian Candidate,he looks fucked up.Also he gets real nervous when hosts throw a very sensitive questions.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
That picture of Kristol that accompanies this article says it all. That is Bill looking at the Russian Heavy Armour Division lining up and getting ready to roll.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
He looks nervous because he is a war criminal.
They have to push the next war with an old, hated enemy since they have no public opinion supporting their bloodshed in the Middle East or Persia.
These rats now have to go for broke…and they won’t pull it off. I suddenly feel somewhat confident watching these cockroaches spread their unbelievable rhetoric. The tide is turning. We need to wake people up NOW as the lights slowly turn on. PASS OUT VIDEOS! It is the most effective.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
OH Yeah ! Bill Krystol is definitely an early genetic experiment gone horribly wrong . Kinda looks like that
banjo kid in Deliverance .
August 12th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Alex,
Great photo of Billy Boy……
The sooner we rid ourselves of these manical Satanist bastards the better.
Kristol’s father Irving, was a Communist and Aethiest for most of miserable life until he dreamed up a more hip and groovy term.
Neoconservatism……….. Rest in Peace…..the same place as Stalinism and Nazisim..in the hottest pit of Hades….
August 12th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Well let’s see…suppose we were heading into a fascist government. Just suppose…
This first thing to do is to get rid of all the non-Whites in the US. When the Whites came in, the Indians weren’t really using it for much anyway, and now it’s ours, so what? The Mexicans would go, the Blacks would go, and surely, the Jews would go. Puerto Ricans, all of them. Gone. Maybe even the Canadians. lol That was the original intention of our country. Until the middle 1960s when the immigration laws were changed that is.
Queers would be eliminated. Two warnings and then it’s over for you. It should be a capital crime anyway. They are defective.
Divorce would be illegal like it was 60 years ago.
No interracial marriage or even dating. Illegal. Period. Prison time. Like goes with like.
Abortion would be decided in a court similar to small claims courts. Low lifes would get forced abortions and probable sterilization. Once a woman birthed a child by a man, she would be sterilized if she left him so she couldn’t breed like an alley cat. College girls would have the child and the state would take it if she didn’t want it. Birth permits would be issued on a point system based on performance in high school and college. If Mexico would use this system, in two hundred years, it would rule the world.
Keeping the Mexicans out of the US would be simple and cheap. After flyers and pamphlets were distributed, on the announced day, helicopter gunships would simply kill anyone who was caught out in the dead zone. The economic boost to the country would be tremendous. After perhaps a thousand publicized deaths, the legalized invasion would stop.
Taxes would be minimal or non-existent, since the government would finally have some kind of direction. The social programs would have easily understood goals. Things would make sense again and people would support the constructive social order of things.
These are just some examples. Fill in your own blanks.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I Joke because , I am so sick of seeing and listening to these wimps. I hope i meet just one face to face
someday . It’s always the pusses that want to start something then hide behind mama’s skirt .
August 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Excellent post WEREFEAT, I hope you have a membership with STORMFRONT! MORE, PLEASE MORE!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
#16: Smokin’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
I thought it was funny when Black O’Bastard and McClone were talking about Georgias sovereignty when the nwo is gonna do away with all soereignty on the planet. What a dog and pony show they put on. Airbags from hell.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:09 am
The first line of this very article summons it up PERFECTLY.
“It’s touching how American neoconservatives who have no regard for international law when they want to invade some troublesome country have developed a sudden reverence for national sovereignty.”
It’s UNREAL how these morons in Washington think and justify themselves.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:26 am
I am a Christian, I love Jesus. The Jews don’t love Jesus. The Jews hate Jesus. The Jews hate you if you love Jesus. The Jews are preparing the way for ‘their’ coming messiah, the Antichrist, Satan in the flesh. Their preparations are very important to them; you might recognize them by the name ‘The New World Order’. Zionism has infiltrated Christianity to the point that Christians actually believe the Jews are some extra special, divine and super holy, better than human race. This is simply not the case. Jesus himself pronounced their house desolate. God scattered them to the four winds for their evil deeds, and the fact that they rejected Jesus Christ. Most of those who call them self’s Jews today are Khazars and don’t have a single drop of Abraham’s blood in their veins. They are the descendants of Japheth not the descendants Shem, the blessed line. Further not being of the covenant they are imposter’s and have no claim to Israel’s land.
First John, chapter 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know the spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.
3 And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of Anti-christ, whereof ye have heard that it should come: and even now already is it in the world.
Have a good look at the Jews sacred text, the Talmud. This is nothing other than the manifesto of the ‘Synagogue Of Satan’. The children of ‘the god of this world’.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
Have a nice day pilgrims.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:36 am
#16, you are part of the problem. Just a TAD bit racist. You and #19 need to take a good look in the mirror and REPENT. The NWO is evil, but the things that you said are equally as horrific. You should be ASHAMED of yourself.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Bob Colorado,will you PLEASE stop eating moldy bread!! Didn’t your pastor tell you it’s bad for you.Now back to the shed and your favorite poultry boy.And when the hell are you going back on the Thorazine? We’re all getting fed up with your insanity.Go on a fast,lay off the crystal meth and I’ll meet you at the Reinhard Heydrich Festival in September.Bring your elaborate network of trusses,you’ve busted a gut!!
August 13th, 2008 at 1:04 am
What is funny is they think people are actually believeing this stuff anymore. The only people that really think that any of this ” war on terror” B.S. is the Old and the feeble minded. Really all we have to do is make it a law that we only count our countrys vote by hand. Make our elections safe by video proof of every vote. Then recall all of this countrys ” elected officals”, and then vote again on their status . Grab Ron Paul and GO CLEAN OUR HOUSE UP!! Everybody knows about 911 , The Russian thing, the whole thing I mean they have been caught in so many lies. The next terror attack in this country will be blamed on somebody else , and nobody will believe that either. The best thing for Bush to do is hang chaney and rummie out to dry for 911 and get quietly out of the country before somebody drops a dime on him and all of your secrets come out .
August 13th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Thank you Large Willie,
Bob may also be suffering a lack of oxygen up in the hills….
Nothing said for the insanity of the jew-nazi-bitch Kristol…..
He hates Russians, and everyone who has a girlfriend, mainly because he likes to torture muslims and watch little boys while he sucks his daddy’s shcmuck in hell.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Thank you Large Willie,
Bob may also be suffering a lack of oxygen up in the hills….
Nothing said for the insanity of the jew-nazi-bitch Kristol…..
He hates Russians, and everyone who has a girlfriend, mainly because he likes to torture muslims
August 13th, 2008 at 1:19 am
it seems clear that the NWO likes to tap into the darkests parts of humans, and they like to corrupt us and turn us into little hate machines that like to find someone on the other side of some prescribed line to fight against.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:40 am
Who the f–k is this POS? Why do I or we for that matter, have to even see his face on this article or on MSM? Bring this cocksucker over to my house and I’ll kick his ugly f–king ass back to tomorrow and beyond! His face makes me want to puke, who the fuck died and made this prick important! F–k off you pussy m’f–ker!
August 13th, 2008 at 2:18 am
Between the dialectic of collectivism and the individual, the lunar collective group is but a reflection of the solar individuated self. The corporate statis-quo recieves the creative idea from the Dreamer’s insperation. Collectivism produces disasociation manifesting schizophrenic behavior such as bureaucratic disfunction. The Individuated self is and will be THE NEW DIRECTION. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd3zZa5xGgM
August 13th, 2008 at 2:39 am
US government is pure diarrhea !!! International laws are the same for everyone !!! It’s not one way for the US and another way for the rest of the world !!! WTF the UN doing ? Sucking the balls of the US obviously !!!
I’m so sick of your freaking government !! How could you have voted for this bunch of nazi ? How could you accept the way they treat you and all of us around the world ? How come only a few of you see what it’s happening ??
Maybe the NWO is right, Americans is a new generation of retarded !!! Enjoy your fast food, your coca cola and your “democratie”… Or go in the street and fix this mess !!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 2:51 am
#34 Seamus O’Malley
You are one dumb fuck Seamus…one dumb fuck indeed!
You say: #”In 40 short years we have become garbage like the 3rd world nations our immigrants come from”#
Aren’t you proud to be everich irich irish?
You wouldn’t have some immigrant blood in ya…would you Seamos?
You say: #You look at this UNITED STATES of AMERICA until 1960……we were the greatest, most respected, richest, cleanest, safest, most industrialized, healthiest, & intelligent Nation on the PLANET EARTH.#
Get off the drugs you stupid, brain dead, pompous, ignorant cunt!
America got a taste for evil (Murder, Rape, Maiming, Enslavement & ultimate Genocide of Native Indians)
Then became addicted to the evil (Enslavement, Rape, Murder & Maiming of Africans)
But slavery wasn’t enough to feed your ravenous blood lust, so for decades you have gone on a global killing spree that continues to this day.!
From the Genocide of the Indians to the present day…”America” has caused the deaths of “tens of millions of innocent men, women and children”
Respected you say…Despised is the word for how the world looks upon America…Despised!!!
Ya dopey fucking cunt!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 2:51 am
Seamus O’Malle, you deluded prick.
You stuck up asshole.
America was the greatest?? Fuckyou.
You are the one creating separation.
Let’s see… You have a problem with, women,gays and diversity.
Again, fuckyou.
What you Americans need is a serious ass whooping, you stuck up fucks.
There are some good people in your country but there is still way to many deluded bible thumpers and assholes,who think they are God’s chosen people.
August 13th, 2008 at 3:09 am
#30 is actually quite insightful in regards to his interpretations of prophecy that aren’t popular by any means but most people calling themselves Christians will let themselves be hustled into the political world of man & will be worshipping the Beast & Image of the Beast thinking this globalist Beast is doing God’s work when the globalist Beast is actually doing the devil’s work.
Jesus was not a lover of this world or the world of man as he stated he doesn’t even pray for the world of man, but prays for the safety of his own being those who turned away from the world of man to the Spiritual Kingdom he taught as opposed to the religious political kingdoms men teach.
August 13th, 2008 at 3:11 am
I live by an USAF, we just launched somethin big dunno what it was (foggy) but it was shakin the windows.
August 13th, 2008 at 3:36 am
That’s the biggest bull i have read for some time Seamus O’Malley…, considering the fact I read a lot, it is an accomplishment not to be underestimated!
Congratulations!
August 13th, 2008 at 4:57 am
Yes according to them the law can be bent to their advantage all the time….
Beat the international bankers at their own game……become debt free and financially free.
http://www.becomericher.info
August 13th, 2008 at 5:22 am
On a lighter note it’s fantastic to see the Aussie’s cleaning up at the olympics!
A country of 20,000,000 making the Yanks with a population of 300,000,000 look like second raters.
The yanks need to win 15 Gold to our 1.
“not a hope in hell”
August 13th, 2008 at 6:09 am
Aussie, welcome back. Excellent post. You are good at ripping somebody a new one. What these bigoted sheeple dont understand is that the USA was founded on immigration of people from all over the world. They really think that they have achieved some level of supiriority now that they are in the USA and now dont want anybody new. Thats one thing that they have here in the USA is freedom of speech, (but not for long). And its a two way street. I am married to a Mexican citizen and my children are dual citizens. I have heard all kinds of comments from bigoted people, even from church, who say that they think it is wrong. Well I have something to tell them, My ancestors came from Europe and married the native Americans and here I am. Likewise my wife, so whats the difference?
LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS
August 13th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Good on ya Jimmy.
I bet your children are beautiful…the most stunning looking children that i have ever seen, were Vietnamese American, fathered during and after the Vietnam (Lie) War.
I call myself an Aussie…whats an Aussie…well an Aussie is a mixture from nearly every single race of people on the planet…much like Yanks!!!
My ancestry is Irish, Swedish, English and Canadian. The Canadian part worries me…it’s a bit to close to them crazy Yanks for my liking…only joking…iv’e got a lot of respect for the majority of Americans.
Bigotry and Racism is generaly passed down to children from ignorant parents, who in turn most likely had it handed down from their parents. A bigot or racist is only good for pissing on or hospitalising.!!!
I don’t put myself above or below any race of people…not a single one!
You look after yourself Jimmy…and remember…watch out for them anthrax laced enchiladas!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Holbrooke is a top level Bilderberger. Confront him with a camera next time you see him.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:49 am
I heard Sean Hannity, of all people, speaking in support of Jerome Corsi’s new book “ObamaNation”. I believe he even had him on the show, but I didn’t get to hear it.
This should get interesting…
Maybe Jerome can talk some sense into Sean’s neo-liberal psychosis.
!DTTNWO!
August 13th, 2008 at 8:03 am
http://news.cincinnati.com/app.....808120362/
Myers and Rove
August 13th, 2008 at 8:04 am
fact no1: enough of you americans voted for GWB not once but twice – you have allowed him and his “sort” to wage illegal wars slaughtering millions of innocents – every single one of you that voted for GWB has blood on your hands – you all idly sat by and did nothing! nothing whatsoever!
Why dont you watch that classic richard pryor movie – brewsters millions – and vote for none of the above? – it was made in the 80’s but has so much more relevance now.
If you have to vote, dont be a dumb sheep and actually vote for someone other than the main 2 – dont vote obama, dont vote mccain – there are just 2 faces of the same coin. You need to wake up.
Anyone who voted for GWB IS NOT GOING TO HEAVEN – you know god isnt like that, come on all of you – whatever religion, do you think any god is going to sit there and say – “well i see your point, but you did nothing whilst poor innocents were slaughtered – you kept quiet, your voice was muted – by your inaction you allowed all this to happen”.
I’ll give you another example – lets suppose your job is to maintain a lift, but instead of doing your job, you do something else. Because the lift is not maintained an accident happens and someone dies. Whose responsible? Why of course the person who failed to do their job. Everyone with me so far. If it was your family member who died in the lift shaft you would want to sue, and rightly so, you would want justice – yes?
Ok you may have originally voted for GWB with the best of intentions, but come on voting him in a second time (and 53% of you did) – proves that more than 1 in 2 americans were more than happy to go along with his policies just as long as “were all-right jack”. You put your own self interests ahead of people who are way poorer than you and getting slaughtered in their literally millions – not to mention all the depleted uranium that will poison the land for well over 20,000 years.
If you saw a woman getting raped in the street would you walk idly by? if you saw an old man getting beaten up would you turn the other cheek? if you saw a child being bullied would you step in? You cant claim to be religious and turn the other cheek when you are made fully aware as to whats gone on! you should have rioted, called the tv stations done protests, made your voice heard, gone on strike, anything anything but you did nothing in fact you did worse – you voted him in again.
those for voted for GWB have blood on their hands – and you WILL go to hell mark my words – but its not too late! for god is forgiving but you must change now! you must look to your books for guidance – “thou shalt not kill” is a fundamental and rest assured that includes inactivity that leads to others being killed.
We will all have our day of judgement – if you can look god in the eye and say you did the best you could then you will be fine – but doing nothing will send you straight to hell. I know you americans claim you are religious – well what do you think jesus would say about the good ole us of a? what do you think he would say of GWB? he’d tell you that you voted in satan. you support satan, you love satan, you worship at the altar of capitilism which is not in any way christian.
I shall pray that for once some of you might understand what I am saying – fear god more than your country – for god has power over you for eternity not just a lifetime.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Aussie you wouldn’t happen to be the drunk I just saw on the Google news camera, sleeping off a couple bottles on someone’s front lawn?
Sounds like you need to go on a walkabout. I know, I know.. America fell out of love with Australia some years back. Even with Howard joing the Neoconservative mafia, it still seems
America choose to ignore you. The Simpsons pretty much cleared it up.
If all you’ve got to offer is Paul Hogin, a short tempered Russel Crow (all you people have such pent up anger?) and Koala shoes, you won’t stay in the American spotlight for long.
Do as we do here in Canada and don’t care what anybody thinks.
You Aussies sure kicked Canada’s ass on the field the other day.
I think we do better on the ice ( When it comes to Ice Boxing, Canada has the best ) .
August 13th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Aussie is the biggest bigot posting here these days. He has a real hard-on for anything American.
Aussie, we here in America don’t often think of Aussies.
Now, if you want to hate of George Bush and the other criminals that run this place, be my guest.
But I think you’re just mad ’cause we don’t notice you guys much.
Never been to Australia, never plan on going, and don’t care for the strange accent too much.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:57 am
We have the answer to tyranny=Fight back or look in the mirror and call yourslef a puss!!
http://illinoispatriotsdefense.....index.html
Either stand up for yourself or get creamated with the rest of them!!
August 13th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Aussie…the list you provided as your ancestry…and you don’t know about Canada and USA?…let me tell you something about history….North America got heavily populated by…..EUROPEANS JU
ST LIKE YOUR ANCESTRY…lol. Aussie….to label others in bad taste kills your credibility. chemtrail…what do you know about God that we don’t??? are you the messenger? chosen one??
August 13th, 2008 at 9:35 am
#54 redlice
#Now, if you want to hate of George Bush and the other criminals that run this place, be my guest#
Guess what redlisp…the criminals run the place because you and your ilk let them!
And another thing redlie…surely you have at least one friend who could help you post a half intelligent message…just one?
Step up to the plate redlip…your country is sinking fast…and no one’s handing out lifejackets!!!
Get it?
August 13th, 2008 at 9:50 am
#55 mike
I checked out the website…it reminded me of the old looney tunes theme…i laughed my fucken’ arse off.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Anybody notice that even tho’ the author makes big about the hypocrisy, Russia is still made out to be the aggressor?
Nearly everything I’ve read–columns, editorials– in the local rag uses that spin.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Well said Aussie, that had to be one of the most retarded messages I’ve ever seen. And Redlist the reason that you people in America “don’t often think of Aussies” it’s becuase most of you are too damed arrogant to be thinking of anything else but how great America is.
On a side note Chemtrail Hater, that was truely one of the best religious messages I’ve ever seen, most of them are a bit off but yours was quite well stated, the only critizism I have is the part where you say all people who voted for GWB will go to Hell. Firstly voting doesn’t even matter, as we’ve seen in countless elections, left wing, right wing, they come from the same bird, so people voting for or against Bush, it didn’t really matter. Lastly I would like to think that the people who did vote for Bush did it with good intetions, and the intetion is very important, if people are thrown into Hell for making a mistake, then thats a little horrible but if they repet the mistake, then thats a different story. I guess I’m saying don’t be like the religious fanatics who seem to believe they have the right to judge us, the only one who does is God and no matter how much we study the Bible or pray to him, we can never understand his divine judgement without actually meeting him.
Keep up the Good Word!
August 13th, 2008 at 10:01 am
In my opinion, too many people have been programmed to think in a praxis state for humans to effect a positive outcome. While A.J. is good at getting you fired up, you folks don’t know what to do with the info he provides. All of the name-calling, finger-pointing and divisiveness expressed by the good folk who post here is a detriment to the progress of your cause.
Always remember this. Think your words and texts through carefully. Analyze that which you have espoused yourselves. Consider that your programmed manner of thinking is part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Cecil B Dimbulb at #27,”jew-nazi-bitch”?.Will you stop sniffing your dog’s rear end and educate your self.And Larry Ogsteen,what on this earth is your problem? Do you believe in Santa Claus,too? You really shouldn’t sniff airplane glue and then watch evangelists on TV.It’s a recipe for disaster.If I had a nickel for every deluded “Christian” and vile racist that posts here I’d be well off.Well,I’m off to read some more Jew hating,ignoramuses commenting on some of the other great stories on this brilliant site.Why does this site attract such a high number of certifiable lunatics? See you,Willie S. Johnson
August 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Excuse me! I know what to do with all this information about the world situation. I have been building chicken coops, water towers (storage), raised garden beds, storing food, etc. And I wonder if more folks had been doing these kinds of things all along, if we’d be in all this trouble. Too many pontificators; not enough people with their hands on a saw, a wrench, a shovel. Way, way, way too many people wanting to make money with money. Did you ever, in any way, see a dollar bill manipulate earth, wind, fire or water? The root of it all is a lost relationship with the Earth.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:32 am
thanks to the ivy leauge college boys, the world is in the state it is now. the solution to americas problem is strict neutrality and isolationism.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Bush – Russia must keep its word
Breaking News
US President George W Bush has urged Russia to respect a ceasefire agreement with Georgia and withdraw its forces.
He said the US was concerned about reports of continuing Russian military actions in Georgia.
Mr Bush also said the US would use military aircraft and naval forces to deliver humanitarian aid to the region.
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is to meet French President Nicolas Sarkozy in Paris before travelling to Tbilisi to express US support, he said.
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if one of those US planes breaches russian airspace all shit will kick of!!!, because they are military aircraft,
things could get hot real soon, bush is pushing his luck with this one!
August 13th, 2008 at 10:47 am
if you dont have the wherewithall to start a garden
stock up on canned goods
if you dont like guns
get slingshots
bows and arrows
bear traps
if you dont like to hunt
obtain fishing gear
a fire starter kit, a couple really good sleeping bags, a tent?
back packs for daytrips
space blankets and ponchos
make sure you got a bicycle or a small minibike motorcycle
a generator might help for a while
(i wish mine worked?)
learn how to fix all types of stuff
plumbing
electric
hvac if possible
learn how to build stuff from wood
have a way to collect clean water
french press coffee is good
as for the neocons and their innevitable end on this earth?
they cannot buy salvation
and they are doomed to burn if they donot repent and trust God
so i dont see much hope for them
they have pledged their lives to lucifer
and they are almost certainly lost with no hope for reconciliation
we could pray for them like the bible says to do
but its hard to do that
but either way
be prepared
but dont let it ruin your joy
fight the good fight
but dont lose your hope or your cool
be informed
but dont let it make you bitter beyond repair
do what the Godly founding fathers did
and dont feel bad about it
live and love and bless and forgive
August 13th, 2008 at 10:50 am
i would also imagine the russian airforce will be on ultra high alert at the knowledge the US is sending in military aircraft,
i think their will be some su-27 pilots with very itchy trigger fingers over the comming days.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:07 am
America is broke, mentally unstable, which should be a given with your own government atacking you on 911, dumping cocaine on you for the last 30 years and stealing your elections. And you still think you can win over the Muslims or kill them off before they have a chance to convert to Christianity, you have about as much a chance of winning as jews turning to Christ.
The zionist media is now carrying out a full out attack on Americas redneck States.
They have decided it’s best to ignore your own war crimes and pretend as it it didn’t even happen, and hope for the best.
The neocons are on the ultimate suicide mission, and America better get on board the US for freedom war wagon or the next 911 will probably be mushroom clouds going off.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:39 am
These golden boys need to start putting their own kids on the alter of sacrifice. Coward, money pillow, bitches, need to go.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Kristol is one flaming HOMO…he a fucking crossdresser, and rapes little boys. I ran across him back in the early 80s, drunck off his ass in G’Town, MD dressed as a woman…nasty looking. Was part of that gang that ran male prostitutes for I think Barny Frank…correct me if I’m wrong
August 13th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
russia has just moved in with masses of tanks and heavy artillery, destroying all georgian military infrastructure, bush is about to confront a nation that wont bow down to him!, just posted on aljazeera english site.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I POSTED ABOUT 5 COMMENTS YESTERDAY IN VARIOUS COMMENT SECTIONS BUT, NONE OF THEM APPEARED? PERHAPS IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WHERE ENTERED UNDER THE HANDLE:
google: “KOSHER TAX” says:
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TODAY MY HANDLE IS :
WHY? WHY? WHY? says:
IF IT WORKS UNDER THIS HANDLE BUT, NOT YESTERDAYS, THEN WHY AM I BEING CENSORED?
IT’S NOT LIKE THE “KOSHER TAX” IS’NT REAL. C’MON GUYS
August 13th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
the cease fire is now off, if bush send one military plane or ship in, its fair game for the russians, as it is now a war zone again, and bush has pledged his aligence to the georgians, so any military vehicles are enemy combatants!,
WW3 could be just a heartbeat away folks.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
well peeps if your gonna do any marching on the whitehouse to stop this shit, i suggest you do it within the next 2 days, cause if ya dont,
IT WILL BE TOO LATE.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Double standards are the modus operandi of this administration. It is the province of tyrants to say whatever is expedient, in the world of Orwellian logic.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I have found a good site that breaks down the NWO to a level that anyone can understand.
http://www.realjewnews.com/
August 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Bob in Colorado-
You are a piece of anti-Semitic shit. Jews are not evil
August 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
#78 Ouch that really hurts, calling me names. Take a look at the Jews sacred text and call me more names. I love being attacked for exposing the truth. The nature of your response just proves my point. Have a nice day.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
August 13th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
TAKE THE “YOUTUBE CHALLANGE” = GO TO ANY “DEBUNKING 9/11 CONSPIRACIES” TYPE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE AND MAKE A COMMENT IN THE COMMENT SECTION (under the video),
AND WRITE: “9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB”, THEN WATCH WHAT HAPPENS, YOU WILL BE ATTACKED WITH THE MEANEST INSULTS, YOU WILL BE CALLED A MORON, A CONSPIRACY NUTJOB AND EVEN A HOMO. SOME OF THE ATTACKS WILL BE PLACED ON THE REPLY SECTION (of the comment section) AND SOME WILL BE SENT DIRECTLY TO YOUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL. THEN CLICK ON THE USERNAME OF THE ATTACKERS AND YOU WILL FIND THAT 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 IT IS A PRO-ZIONIST JEW DOING THE ATTACKING AND NAME CALLING, JUST TRY IT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF. please note: DON’T REDUCE YOURSELF TO ANY PETTY NAME CALLING BACK AT THEM, THET THEM LIVE DOWN THERE IN THAT GUTTER, BE THE ONE WITH THE CLASS.
August 13th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Well I just want to say that it doesnt really matter who you vote for, the popular vote doesnt count in The USA….. its the masonic ELECTORAL COLLEGE!!!!!!
So go figure.
How do you really think that you are going to have an election and really vote for a candidate. Do your research and then make your comments. PERIOD!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
That’s why I don’t watch the regular news channels (only the weather part). They so full of shit and try to tell people bogus news that the govt wants them to know… Hell, even Lou Dobbs is starting to get on the band wagon!! His story on Russia, saying that Russia invaded Georgia…. When actually Georgia started the war. Russia is just finishing it…. You have to search out other news on the internet, instead of getting glue to the TV set… It’s all bogus….. All, I can say is this, Russia don’t play around… They got more balls, then our govt do…. At least they don’t prosecute their troops….
August 13th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Everyone outside of America knows about America, accept Americans themselves. Your country is falling hard now. Your divorce rate is over 50% now, your taste for blood and violence is well known, your children watch t.v. all day and play violent video games and are raised by day care, your old people are put it homes and left. Your all afraid of “terrorists” yet you have the most populated prision system in the world and a crime rate that has slaughtered way more than terrorisim in your country. Your police like to beat you all up, another fine example of your mentality. Your prejudice against race, sex and religion. Your country has committed war crimes and torture for years and look for more. Your government is a bunch of thieves that dont care anything about your health care and watch you die if you dont have enough money to go to hospital.
And you people on this blog site talk about arming yourselves and hiding out in the woods with supplies like you think thats going to save you. Your military is the strongest in the world so what makes you think you can fight that. None of you protest anything compared to what the rest of the world protests. You are all a bunch of genetic freaks that mutated and the rest of the world wont help you when you fall, they will be glad your gone.
Your sick President and his government represent what the American people are, after all the majority voted for him so that says a lot about your country and its people. Your the fatest population on this earth cause you all sit around on your ass…..how much intelligence does that take. Oh yea, Intelligence, your schools are violent and your educational system isn’t worth shit. So tell me why America is the greatest country in the world again?
No one likes Americans………….”wake up” as you like to say, but thats all you do is say wake up and sit on your fat asses at your keyboard and complain. You people in here are just as much the problem as the rest of Americans. Soon you will all suffer like the pain you have caused the rest of the world and no one will save you.
August 13th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
this message is for #83 primarily.
Initial reaction to your comments may well be anger or rage. that’s mostly because most Americans have been taught to be proud of their country…….no matter what. for me, I’m proud to be an American because I consider it to be a priviledge to live here. but, I’m anything but proud of our leaders and government that for the most part have hijacked this republic known as the United States. in my opinion, even the most honest people may get into politics but “IF” they stay in politics they undoubtedly will become corrupt. The system is designed to do just this. yes, we are some of the fattest and laziest people. Again, we’ve had it pretty good compared to most of the world’s population. For instance, in this country people are so spoiled that if their tv or microwave goes out for a prolonged period……………they freak out as if someone broke in their house and stole all their valuables. do you think the people of Darfur could give a shit if this happened to them? If they have enough food for a freeking day……………they feel blessed and yet we worry and get upset over the most bullshit things. Yes, the day of reckoning is coming to America and the only hope is that the mercy of GOD himself will protect those believers from catastrophe. so, while I agree with most of what you say, our country’s people are still farrrrrrrrrr more noble than the thieves (political leaders) that have broken into the hen house. I also believe the day is coming when there will be a rising up of these same people and they will declare “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”…………….we are taking back our country!
August 13th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
#83, the phrase is “except Americans themselves.” Not “accept Americans themselves”. You dumb ass.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
#85 Ralph
The phrase is “get stuffed Ralph…ya fuck’n nit picking prick”
August 13th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
#84 jerry
You said:
#I’m anything but proud of our leaders and government that for the most part have hijacked this republic known as the United States#
What you should have said:
I’m anything but proud of myself and my fellow Americans, that “have” sold this republic formerly known as the United States down the drain.
Don’t pass the buck jerry…that’s the easy way out. From 2001 – 2008 you and your fellow “land of the timid” citizens have not as much as let out a squawk…”0 out of 10″ for effort, and as weak as piss sums up the character and moral fibre of you all!
You Americans with children should be ashamed of yourselves…thoroughly ashamed!!!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Aussie your posts do speak the truth i must say. Some are quite crude but effective nontheless. I am sure a lot of my fellow Americans don’t like to hear what you have to say, the truth does hurt and ignorance is bliss. I have young children and your post was certainly a wake up call to me.
Keep up the good work Aussie, you can be proud of yourself.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:54 am
what does Bush keep saying,”Russia has no right to attack Georgia,they are a soveregn nation?well i wonder what the hell he thought Iraq WAS,and what Iran is?