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  • New L.A. gun control law proposed

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    Maeve Reston
    Los Angeles Times
    February 14, 2009

    Just a few weeks after the Los Angeles City Council approved a batch of new gun and ammunition ordinances tightening restrictions on ammunition vendors, council members Jack Weiss and Janice Hahn are proposing a new law that would make it more difficult for individuals convicted of certain misdemeanors to own guns.

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    The proposal, which Weiss and Hahn plan to introduce as early as today’s council meeting, would expand on a state law that bars possession of a gun for 10 years if convicted of certain crimes, including assault, illegal weapons sales or threatening a public official or a witness.

    Weiss, a candidate for city attorney in the March 3 primary election, has made gun control one of his top campaign issues.

    Weiss and Hahn’s measure would add other offenses to the list, including carrying a concealed weapon, possession of an assault weapon, burglary and misdemeanor gang crimes.

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    62 Responses to “New L.A. gun control law proposed”

    1. general Says:

      Well the cool part about tyranny is that everyone is an official and we no longer are allowed to vote for who we want. Every piece of shit gov’t bureaucrat is your master. And all guns will be illegal unless you’re a NWO enforcer.

      Gary Reply:

      And that would be “cool” because…???

      Ripper Reply:

      Sarcasm detector turned off Gary?

      steve0 Reply:

      how f*ckin tragic! a guy who beats his wife or sells guns to gangbangers wont be able to legally own a gun…i say good! you people need to learn to read thru the bullshit hype/spin this page puts on everything and realize that some laws/controls are a good thing. obey common sense laws–get to own guns. hurt someone or provide the means to hurt someone–no guns for you. someone on this site with half a brain tell me whats wrong with that!!!

      waypasthadenough Reply:

      Creatures like this are why I have my weapons. History clearly shows we will be forced to kill many of them.

      Don’t understand? Start here:

      http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm

      thenewjefferson Reply:

      steve0
      Whats your address??? I need to “help” you understand that you are suffering from a serious mental illness…. It’s called SHEEPITIS………. You are so fucking stupid you actualy deserve what is going to rain down on you. DOOM

      WeeBee Reply:

      Well the cool part about democracy is that nearly anyone can run for local office and help thwart pieces of bullshit legislation. Yes general, maybe even you! Not only could you help stop anti-gun legislation, but you could monitor AND/OR thwart Homeland Security from hijacking your local government by rejecting their DHS/FEMA cash handouts.

      LOOK PEOPLE, WE ALREADY HAVE MORE POWER THAN YOU REALIZE. “THEY” WANT YOU TO THINK YOU ARE HELPLESS & HOPELESS. YOUR IGNORANCE IS THEIR POWER.

      Get up off your asses & take back your government! It’s your government, use it when you want!

      Grandolelady Reply:

      AMEN, Well said. Our government should be afraid of the people instead of the people being afraid of the Government.

      John Henke Reply:

      I wish we had a democracy.

      1of300 Reply:

      You should not wish anything like a democracy, learn what it means, you are ignorant. Educate yourself before you open your mouth.

    2. roaddog Says:

      How you gonna do ten years in a fema camp?

      general Reply:

      Well the ten years is only if you are on your best behavior and you submitt to the prison rapings and the flu shots don’t kill you and your family has a lot of money to buy your food with. And you can afford to pay restitution and you can live with being disarmed for the rest of your life and they don’t work you to death. But when you get arrested it will be by a smiling police officer who loves you and wants the best for you.

    3. general Says:

      Oh, I forgot to mention that by the time the ten years is up all arms, even butter knifes, will be banned and confiscated. Remember that fighting for your freedom is never legal.

      Lookout Reply:

      HEAR YE, HEAR YE, HEAR YE: In lieu of the pending bill before the house concerning the Second Amendment(a) to the Constitution of the United States of America (HR-45), a new doctrine has been enacted by the citizens of these United States of America on this sixth day of February in the year of 2009.
      (a)A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      We the gun owners of America and its citizens, by the gun owners of America and its citizens, for the gun owners of America and its citizens, in order to secure the safety of the citizens and protect our families and to insure the right of every individual herein these United States of America to a life of freedom and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, do hereby declare and mandate that any entity, individual person, group, lobbyist, corporation or government body either state or federal, from this day forward be considered, treated as, and acted upon as the enemy of the people and citizens of these United States of America and shall be considered an act of aggression and war against the citizens of these United States of America should the following criteria apply.

      1. Any entity, individual person, group, lobbyist, corporation or government body either state or federal of this country or any other country, wanting to or attempting to either by the passage of bills, laws or mandates, or by forceful execution of police or military, the infringement in any way upon the citizens of the United States of America to keep and bear arms.

      2. Any such actions will be considered an act of hostile aggression and an act of war against the citizens of the United States of America and be met with the fullest measure of resistance. These same entities, individual persons, groups, lobbyists, corporations, government bodies either state or federal will be captured if at all possible and tried in the court of the people of the United States of America for treasonous acts against the people of the United States of America. They will be tried, judged and if convicted in OUR court, be sentenced to either imprisonment or death or both.

      These are our new laws and mandates. We will not sit idly by while you financially destroy this country of OURS and then allow you to infringe upon OUR second amendment.
      Your laws and rules and mandates are hereby nullified and dismissed as frivolous attempts to control the people of the United States of America and insure them harm and or death. YOUR LAWS NO LONGER APPLY!

      burlguy Reply:

      This is fantastic where did you find this. I am going to print it and hang it on my door.

      HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:

      Goddamn Right!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

    4. Viet Nam Vet Says:

      Two Words………………….

      “MOLON LABE”

      Dr. Sardonicus (A.K.A.: H.P.D.) Reply:

      I see you know your Greek, my friend! I concur..but ‘they’ won’t find them easy to take! Thanks for your service..USMC veteran here (1981-88). Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

      thenewjefferson Reply:

      RNEM
      -Don’t Rock The Boat…… SINK THE FUCKER!

    5. Neocon Narc Says:

      I just read about another gun giveaway deal in South Carolina.
      They gave a Rose and gift card for people turning in guns.
      They had over 200+ guns turned in and said “People were happy to get rid of them.”

      ROFLMAO
      This is what we have to educate…sheep who are happy to be slain.
      “Game over man!!!.”
      We don’t stand a chance with morons like this.

      tearin Reply:

      and south carolina was the first state to secede before the civil war.. sad.

      Lookout Reply:

      Momma always said stupid is as stupid does. Ummmmmmm, could I please have an imbedded microchip in my forehead and two free passes to camp fema instead of the gift card?

      Grandolelady Reply:

      You just can’t fix stupid….

      SLEEP Reply:

      “We don’t stand a chance with morons like this”

      Hmmm…Lets let them take piont and take the first hit….there good for something.

      thenewjefferson Reply:

      CALLING ALL TRUE RNEM and PATRIOTS. IT’S HIGH ALERT TIME! IF THIS BILL GETS THRU. IT IS OUR SACRED DUTY TO TERMINATE EVERY ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC THAT WOULD DARE TO ENFORCE SAID BILL. I WILL TAKE NO PLEASURE IN DOING WHAT MUST BE DONE. HOWEVER I WILL DO IT AS GOD IS MY JUDGE. -LOCK AND LOAD. -FIRE WHEN READY

    6. r.j.from k.c. Says:

      Any government official even suggesting TRYING to take your constitutional rights,god given rights actually, should be arrested for treason. Why aren’t they? Why do they feel empowered to do such a thing?Is that our fault,if so we deserve every thing we got coming.

      thenewjefferson Reply:

      The scentence for TREASON is death. Forget the arrest…. Shoot the fucker.

    7. unknown Says:

      just like hilter killed the jews they will kill americans in the fema camps

    8. Obama Antichrist Says:

      OBAMA IS MAITREYA THE NEW AGE MESSIAH THE ANTICHRIST

      HE WILL FORCE THE MARK OF THE BEAST SYSTEM REAL SOON!!!

      SEE SHOCKING PROOF!
      http://www.obamamaitreya.com

    9. fya Says:

      What’s up with all those tt-33’s? I got myself a tokarev, and no it will never be turned in or confiscated.

    10. ShabbaRank Says:

      None of you have to go to FEMA camps, so why fear them? Let the sheep go to these camps. Those with guns go out like real men – resisting all the way.

      thenewjefferson Reply:

      AMEN….

    11. John Galt Says:

      The felonization of America. So some conniving double speak traitor lawyer can steal your rights and turn them in to a privilege and them trick them away from you, the sleeping sheeple. Again we must challenge the machinations of deceitful and artful men by avarices and sophistry. At lease so you and your stupid peers think so. Screw them. We are the angles. The time to fight is near.

      Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.
      Patrick Henry

      Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
      Thomas Jefferson

      For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
      Thomas Jefferson

      I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
      Thomas Jefferson

      The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood; and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy upon the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should be suffered them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle; or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men. Of the latter we are in most danger at present. Let us therefore be aware of it. Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity; and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, which is the wish of our enemies, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude and perseverance. Let us remember that “ if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom!” It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers in the event.

      Samuel Adams

      These supposed laws are violations of the Constitution and are no laws at all.

    12. BobLeeSwagger Says:

      Well said John Galt- this is yet another shameless example of assholes who should be hanging from the end of a rope taking yet another opportunity to exploit the sleeple who seem to be asleep at the wheel ALWAYS.

    13. Joe Pelech Says:

      The U.S. Constitution is not a piece of paper written by dead men. The U.S. Constitution is hope for all people – evidence of living integrity. Defend your integrity and you will find the light, and be free again.

    14. jimmy4truth Says:

      Start writting the names of people who propose legislation like this. They are terrorists. That way when the next revolution comes around we can make a new set of playing cards with pictures of bankers terrorists and corupt polititians, to bring to justice. Also start referring to Bankers as Terrorists, and Polititians as well. Then we’ll give true meaning to the words.

    15. "M" Says:

      We should bombard the terrorist hotline 24/7 and report this whole Obama administration as a terrorist group until their ears bleed.

    16. S.W.P. Says:

      Partial list of problems.Feel free to add your own to it.

      Elliott Abrams
      Kenneth Adelman
      Karen R Adler
      Madeleine Albright
      Jane Alexander
      Roger Altman
      David Axelrod
      William Ayers

      Zoë Eliot Baird
      Ehud Barak
      Dan Bartlett
      Monte R. Belger
      Sandy Berger
      Richard Bernstein
      Stuart Bernstein
      Joe Biden

      Rod Blagojevich
      Tony Blair
      Brad Blakeman
      Lincoln Bloomfield
      Roy Blunt
      Samuel Bodman
      Joshua Bolten
      John Bolton
      Robert Boorstin
      Steven Bornstein
      Barbara Boxer
      Nancy Brinker
      Edgar Bronfman Jr.
      Gordon Brown

      Ian Brzezinski
      Mark Brzezinski
      Mika Brzezinski
      Zbigniew Brzezinski

      Dan Burton
      Barbara Bush
      George H. W. Bush
      George W. Bush
      Jeb Bush
      Marvin Bush
      Neal Bush
      Laura Welch (Bush)
      Robert Carlyle Byrd

      Andrew Card Jr
      Dick Cheney
      Michael Chertoff
      Frank Cilluffo
      Bill Clinton
      Hillary Clinton
      Bonnie Cohen
      Eliot Cohen
      John Conyer

      Ruth Davis
      Christopher J. Dodd (Chris)
      Bernardine Dohrn (Ayers)
      David Dreyer

      Eric Edelman
      Stuart Eisenstat
      Michael Eisner
      Jeff Eller
      Benjamin M. Emanuel
      Rahm Emanuel
      Tom Epstein
      Donald Evans
      Mehmet Eymur

      Judy Feder
      Douglas Feith
      Jeffrey Feltman
      Dianne Feinstein
      Dr. Norman Finkelstein
      Ari Fleischer
      Max Frankel
      Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
      David Frum
      Graham E. Fuller

      Robert Gates

      David Geffen
      Timothy Geithner
      Christopher Gersten
      Joseph Gildenhorn
      Ed Gillespie
      Hershel W. Gober
      Peter Goelz
      Michael S. Goff
      Danny Goldberg
      Leonard Goldenson
      Adam Goldman
      Steve Goldsmith
      Alberto Gonzales
      Al Gore
      Jeff Gralnick
      Donald Graham
      Stanley Bernard Greenberg
      Marc Grossman
      Mandy Grunwald

      Richard Haass
      Daniel Halperin ?
      Mark Halperin
      Morton Halperin
      Margaret A. Hamburg
      Dennis Hastert
      Orrin Hatch
      Stuart Hersch
      Philip B. Heymann
      Elizabeth Hoffman
      Karen Hughes

      Michael Isikoff

      Clay Johnson

      Peter Kann
      Rick Kaplan
      Jeffrey Katzenberg
      Ted Kenndy
      John Kerry
      Henry Kissinger
      Naomi Klein ?
      Daniel Kurtzer

      Andrew Lack
      Sherry Lansing
      Tom Lantos
      Frank R.Lautenberg
      Frank Lavin
      Patrick Leahy
      Michael Okerlund Leavitt
      Jay Lefkowitz
      Joseph Lelyveld
      Carl Levin
      Gerald Levin
      Alan Levine
      Lewis “Scooter” Libby
      Joe Lieberman
      Bob Livingston
      Edward Luttwak

      Bernard L. Madoff
      Alan Makovsky
      David Makovsky
      John McCain
      Carolyn McCarthy
      Dr. Michael McCoy
      Mark McKinnon
      Ken Melman
      Ehud “Udi” Mendelson
      Katherine Meyer (Graham)
      Harriet Miers
      Michael Mukasey
      Rupert Murdoch

      Benjamin Netanyahu
      Benzion Netanyahu
      Iddo Netanyahu
      Victor Neufeld
      Donald Newhouse
      Samuel Newhouse

      Barack Obama
      Michelle Obama
      Eric Ober
      Ehud Olmert
      Bill O’Reilly

      Leon Panetta
      William Paley (real name Palinsky)

      Norman Pearlstine
      Nancy Pelosi
      Ronald Perelman
      Richard Perle

      Colin Powell

      Charles Rangel
      Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein)
      Robert B. Reich
      Bob Reichbloom
      Harry Reid
      Tony Rezko
      Condoleezza Rice

      David Rockefeller
      John D. Rockefeller (Jay)
      Dennis Ross
      Joe Roth
      Benjamin Mayer Rothschild

      David Rothschild
      Jacob Rothschild
      Nathaniel Rothschild

      Karl Rove

      Robert Rubin
      Donald Rumsfeld
      Bobby L Rush

      David Sarnoff
      Robert Sarnoff
      Robert Satloff
      James Schlesinger
      Daniel Schorr
      Michael Schulhof
      Brent Scowcroft
      Charles E. Schumer (Chuck)
      Mel Sembler
      Neal Shapiro
      Ariel Sharon
      Larry Silverstein
      Martin Silverstein
      Daryl Bradford Smith
      Richard Snyder
      Cliff Sobel
      Stephen Solarz
      George Soros
      Arlen Specter
      Margaret Spellings
      Steven Spielberg
      George Stephanopoulos
      Leonard Stern
      Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr.
      Larry Summers

      Marc Thiessen
      Laurence Tisch

      Paul Adolph Volker
      Mark Weinberger
      Ron Weiser
      Paul Wolfowitz
      David Wurmser
      Dov Zakheim
      Robert Zoellick
      Jeff Zucker
      Mortimer B. Zuckerman

      Pleefer Reply:

      Excellent “round up” list. When the time inevitably comes, these people must know that they haven’t a place on Earth to hide.

      Ben Bernanke

      Henry Paulson

      Patriot Reply:

      Nice List. Add Alan Greenspan!

      Patriot Reply:

      add – Sean Hannity, Chris Matthews, ALL main stream media except Lou Dobbs

      Red dawn now Reply:

      Nagan,
      General Honore
      NO police Chief
      Lon Horiuchi
      Every officer who has taser murdered or strip searched a women
      Any school official who has relieved a student of their right to seld defense or religion, or expelled or charged them for having non weapons, non drugs, such as aspirin, tylenol etc., or touching a member of the opposite sex in a non sexual way that is consensual, ( several boys have been expelled and or charged for touching a girl,while they teach and preach homosexuality) as well as those school officials who knowingly lie to the children, employing unicef propganda and or the homosexual agenda.

      deathbyrevolt Reply:

      We should get addresses of these traitors as well and there immediate family members. We can use there family members and kidnap them and make them pay us in gold and silver to get them back. After they pay us we kill keep of these traitors on the list and let the family members go. WHO HAS THERE ADDRESSES. I AM SURE MANY OF THEM HAVE MORE THAN ONE RESIDENT. WE CAN SET UP A NETWORK CHECKING EACH RESIDENTS HOME THROUGH PROCESS OF ELIMINATION AND BEGIN THEIR TERMINATION.

      No.6 Reply:

      Bill Moyer

      No.6 Reply:

      Rush Limbaugh

      thenewjefferson Reply:

      Well done Sir!

      HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:

      I’ll have to give you a “Fuckin’A” on that list of backdoor smokers!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

    17. BobLeeSwagger Says:

      I think that list about covers all the assholes that need a dirt nap.

    18. Mike Says:

      Here is a form letter I created which you can use to send to the assemblywoman’s and the councilman’s e-mail addresses.

      Their e-mail addresses are:

      jance.hahn@lacity.org
      jack.weiss@lacity.org

      Here is the letter. Just copy and paste:

      It came to my attention recently that you are proposing to the Los Angeles city council a gun ban for those individuals convicted of certain misdemeanor infractions. Such a legislation could not be more unjust, unconstitutional and unAmerican.

      To my knowledge, misdemeanors are “lesser” crimes and comprise of such activities as spraying graffiti, petty vandalism, indecent public exposure, trespassing and such like. While I submit that individuals convicted of these minor infractions should receive fines and sentences equivalent to the degree of the crime committed, I do not agree with your agenda to bar indefinitely such individuals from exercising their second amendment gun rights in your district.

      Such a law would be as senseless as revoking permanently an individual’s drivers license as a consequence of a J-walking citation.

      This proposed legislation also presupposes that individuals who commit misdemeanor infractions will eventually commit felonies and violent crimes, such as aggravated assault, rape, arson and murder. In this country, is not a person innocent until proven guilty? Do we not grant an individual due process and only convict and punish such an individual until he/she commits a crime? Or do we now revoke the peoples’ constitutional rights based on the assumption that they will be involved in criminal activities?

      I understand that your agenda, on the surface, is to reduce violent, gang-related crimes in your district, but let us be clear and frank here: This anti-second amendment legislation does not merely apply to gang members. This law will infringe and usurp the gun ownership rights of nonviolent citizens convicted of such misdemeanor infractions as traffic violations, public intoxication and disorderly conduct. I urge you to reconsider your stance on this matter and distance yourself from this particular anti-gun rights legislation.

      Thank you.

      Dirk Diggler Reply:

      Depraved Zionist Police Captain receives shameful, humiliating comeuppance:
      http://www.northjersey.com/new.....53857.html

      waypasthadenough Reply:

      Let me give you a clue mike. Being nice to creatures like this doesn’t work.

      They won’t change until they are made to feel unsafe in their own homes, or until they are dead.

      Don’t understand? Start here:

      http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm

      waypasthadenough Reply:

      The jance hahn or whatever creature has apparently already canceled this address.

    19. SDMadV Says:

      I’m moving to LA so the gang bangers can protect me with their guns

    20. We Have a Voice Says:

      Dear esteemed public servant,

      There has been ample stench raised about gun control and bills introduced that directly infringe upon Article II of the Bill of Rights otherwise referred to as the “Second Amendment”.

      Article II: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      Further there have been many disingenuous arguments made against this Right in the name of the “Framers Intent”. This Intent is quite well summarized in the Framers own writing s and cannot subverted.

      “… If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens little if at all inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow citizens.”
      - the Federalist No. 29: Hamilton

      The intent is abundantly clear: The Right to keep and bear Arms is intended to preserve the liberties of the people from tyranny, whether foreign or domestic.

      I submit that any individual speaking against this position is limited in understanding and greatly ignorant and/or are of malign intent upon the foundations upon which this nation was built.

      Further, I submit that any “public servant”, defined as any member of the government elected, appointed, or otherwise in the employ of the people, is guilty of treason for taking any position that is counter the solemn and sacred oaths of office taken to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America. These individuals should be tried to the full extent of the law. There is but one punishment for treason.
      Signed,
      _________________
      Feel free use this material to fax or send this to all the servants you can think of in the employ the people.

    21. sharper Says:

      http://www.ExposingChristianity.com
      The pen is mightier than the sword.

      Red dawn now Reply:

      The pen is NOT mightier than the sword, because no one was forced into an oven, force raped, murdered or tortured with a pen, and NO one has prevented themselves from being victim of such crimes from a criminal bearing a badge and gun with a pen!

    22. Red dawn now Says:

      I propose no government officials, legislators, nor members of the judicial executive or rogue elements of law enforcement, having demonstrated they cannot be trusted with power and or weapons, especially, the BATF, FBI, DEA and IRS be disbanded and disarmed, this includes civilian elements reinforcing the LE community, such as but not limited to the Guardian Angels!

    23. Red dawn now Says:

      I propose and invite any in a position to profer laws to submit now that, no official, be they legislative, judicial executive, no member of a rogue law enforcement group, such as but not limited to the FBI, CIA, DEA, IRS, BATF or any civilian organization, such as the errant Guardian Angels from possessing or using firearm against the public, nor should any municipal police entity or individual be able to carry a firearm when the have demonstrated they are irresponsible and abusive to their authority, responsibility, public trust etc., such as, by taser torturing or murdering a citizen, strip searching a women or child, or murdering a citizen by any other means, that citizen or bystander, having the authority to use deadly force against that rogue element or conspirators, particularly in that, they may be held accountable under misprision of felony or treason if they stand by and allow a state of federal employee to commit such an atrocity against a citizen of these United States!

      Any officer having relieved a citizen of his or her rights or property or life shall there by forfeit their own property and assets to the victim forthwith!

    24. Stupid Amerkin Says:

      Gee, do the names Weiss and Hahn’s have a familiar blast from the past tone pertaining to gun control or is it just my imagination?

    25. Dave Says:

      Why are Jews behind most of the gun control agenda?,consider:Weiss,Hahn,Metzenbaum,Boxer,Schumer,Feinstein,Gellar(1968 gc act),Nader,Lowy,Bloomberg,Rahm Emanuel, and essentially all of the democratic lawmakers that are Jewish are behind this agenda,but they never say a peep about Israeli settlers who are allowed to carry fully automatic weapons to protect their lives….but the American Goyim don’t rate that privledge.
      If you read history(not the crap that’s fed to us in government schools),you’ll discover that when this group of people gets in charge,there will always be slavery and genocide(1917 Bolshevik revolution and Bela Kun in Hungary).

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    27. Honest View Says:

      Gun Control historically has been, and is today, mostly about disarming the black and minority community. There was a trial way back in the 1920’s in which some blacks used firearms to defend their homes from an angry mob. The white jury wouldn’t even convict, because the case of self defense was so obvious. Therefore, the city and state legislators enacted legislation to make it difficult for a black person to own a firearm.

      And this is happening again today.

      Who has the most infractions that might bar them from firearm ownership? Blacks and other minorities.

      Will blacks and other minorities stand unarmed while living or working in high crime areas? I think not.

      Someday, the L.A. government is going to stir up its own opposition, and when it does I doubt their 15,000 man police force will be able to quell the 100,000 gang members or 2,000,000 armed citizens that stand up and say “NO MORE!”

      Folks ought to demonstrate and march on City Hall. When will L.A. realize that a “Constitutional right” is not an easily revocable “privilege”?