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  • Obama’s War Policies Worse than Bush’s, Anti-War Activist Says

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    Josiah Ryan
    CNSNews
    March 20, 2009

    President Barack Obama’s war policies in Iraq and Afghanistan are criminal and worse than those of former President Bush, according to Adam Kokesh, who serves on the board of directors of the anti-war group Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW).

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    Kokesh and other members of the IVAW gathered on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on Thursday to call on Obama to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also launched a 24-hour vigil/demonstration called “Operation No Change” to mark the sixth anniversary of the start of the Iraq War (March 20, 2003).

    “In some ways, Obama is worse than Bush,” Kokesh told CNSNews.com. “Bush wasn’t proposing a surge in Afghanistan – and Bush was talking about a quicker timeline for withdrawal than Obama.”

    “That’s why we called this ‘Operation No Change,’” said Kokesh. “What Obama is doing with our foreign policy on a fundamental level is not change. Though we are going to re-label the troops ‘non-combat troops,’ they are still out there, and clearly they are still fighting for American interests.”

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    71 Responses to “Obama’s War Policies Worse than Bush’s, Anti-War Activist Says”

    1. TAKE THE RED PILL Says:

      We have just placed on our site some very disturbing information about a bill that is in the process of being presented and passed through congress.The bill is HR 875, Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009To establish the Food Safety Administration within the Department of Health and Human Services to protect the public health by preventing food-borne illness, ensuring the safety of food, improving research on contaminants leading to food-borne illness, and improving security of food from intentional contamination, and for other purposes. They are Criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment. Yes, you read it right .HR 875, was introduced by Rosa DeLauro (D-CT 3rd) whose husband Stanley Greenburg works for Monsanto. The lobbyists for this bill are MONSANTO-CARGILL-TYSON and others. It is urgent that you take a stand and get involved in letting your state representatives know that this is wrong and we’re not going to take it! HERE IS A LIST OF THE SPONSORING REPS…blast them NOW!

      http://www.thegrandawakening.com

      prison planet supporter Reply:

      mass distribution of medicine in case of an emergency:
      http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5910533

      Doent listen to take the red pill Reply:

      His spiritual links are all new-age and deceptive. Be Warned.

      my post is in reference to the site thegrandawakening dot com

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=16

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      Yeah, but he’z on the ball on this one! It’s all over the place, and a bad idea, overall, IMHO.

      VIVA!!!

      TheKingOfTexas Reply:

      WHO IS THE KING OF TEXAS
      I will show myself on April 22 in Waco Texas at the massacre site. I am calling as many Christians of this nation who can find the time to come and see what it is that you don’t even know that you want.
      I have the answers for the Christians who have never been defended by their government but have rather been oppressed by their so called government of freedom.
      I also have the answers to the current generated economic crisis. This is a peaceful gathering for YHWH our God. But you might want to bring a firearm just in case. After all let us not forget what they did to us in Waco. This is not a call for a riot. This is a peaceful gathering. MAY OUR LORD JESUS BE WITH YOU FRIEND.

      I realize it is off topic please forgive me. Go to my web page for more thekingoftexas.com

      RJ Reply:

      What does Adam and Eve have ti do with this new food act???

      prison planet supporter Reply:

      Tooele Army Depot in Tooele Utah is getting ready for an “emergency.”
      http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5910533

      John Henke Reply:

      Well hell. Looks like I’ll have to plant a garden now.

      I always like another way to tell the criminals in DC to go to hell!

      I already carry a pocket Constitution, ( sure sign of a terrorist ), and love my America so much I am ready to go to war for her.

      So there it is. I’m a criminal and proud of it!

      And for my next crime I’ll say, “GOD SAVE AMERICA!”

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      if we the people would just reclaim our “sovereign citizenship” things of this nature could never happen, because as is stands as of right now if you have not reclaimed your “sovereign citizenship” you have no rights no declaration of independence rights, amendment rights, or any other right for that matter, THIS IS FACT that has been proven in the courts time after time,the only thing you have is 14th amendment privileges which can be given or taken at any time by the grantee.
      see now i know that many of you think its just a null adhesion contract that was voided by the state or federal government abuse, but that is simply not the case, because as long as whatever is being done is being done to a people who have a “birth certificate” no matter what it is, they can do it with the backing of the courts because the grantees are sovereign people who are making things and restricting things from a non- sovereign people within a sovereign state within a united corporation. and so, by reclaiming your sovereign citizenship, it restores all the rights that you where given at birthright by the state in which your born, the sovereign people would be able to make decision with the full backing of the declaration of independence, and the amended rights which where exchanged for “privileges” through adhesion contracts, please i challenge anyone who does not believe me or think im left field about this. please people it is the only other way then revolution to make the government get back into its proper smaller place working the the People!!!

      Dont listen to "take the red pill" Reply:

      You have been warned about his spiritual links:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=16

      Dont listen to "take the red pill" Reply:

      Quit spamming every other story day after day with your cover as a sheep in wolves clothing.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=16

      icculus Reply:

      ive been alerting everyone i know about this hr 875 bill and most people are ready to fight to protect their gardens. If this bill passes, it will be clear even to the sleeping sheeple that the us government is an enslaver not a provider or protector.

    2. TAKE THE RED PILL Says:

      A NEW SITE TO HELP WAKE PEOPLE UP THAT ARE RESISITANT AND DON’T BELIEVE. ALL THE KEY CLIPS ARE THERE FOR THE TYRANNY! 911, FLOURIDE, ILLUMINATI, GOVERNMENT COVERUPS AND THE SPIRITUAL WAR. SEE HOW 2012 TIES INTO EVERYTHING!
      http://www.thegrandawakening.com

      Dont listen to take the red pill Reply:

      You have been warned about his spiritual links:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=16

      Dont listen to "take the red pill" Reply:

      You site is not of God, but rather against the God. Its your Spiritual Links. The rot the mind and pollute the soul. Your spamming this site. I will now ask AJ to make it stop. And if it does stop. Youll know who requested it.

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      You’re “Gods” spokesman? Hmmm… Another one. Sheesh! Don’t ignore the Goddess, eh?

      VIVA!!!

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      if we the people would just reclaim our “sovereign citizenship” things of this nature could never happen, because as is stands as of right now if you have not reclaimed your “sovereign citizenship” you have no rights no declaration of independence rights, amendment rights, or any other right for that matter, THIS IS FACT that has been proven in the courts time after time,the only thing you have is 14th amendment privileges which can be given or taken at any time by the grantee.
      see now i know that many of you think its just a null adhesion contract that was voided by the state or federal government abuse, but that is simply not the case, because as long as whatever is being done is being done to a people who have a “birth certificate” no matter what it is, they can do it with the backing of the courts because the grantees are sovereign people who are making things and restricting things from a non- sovereign people within a sovereign state within a united corporation. and so, by reclaiming your sovereign citizenship, it restores all the rights that you where given at birthright by the state in which your born, the sovereign people would be able to make decision with the full backing of the declaration of independence, and the amended rights which where exchanged for “privileges” through adhesion contracts, please i challenge anyone who does not believe me or think im in left field about this. please people it is the only other way then revolution to make the government get back into its proper smaller place working the the People!!!

    3. TAKE THE RED PILL Says:

      WE ARE HEADING INTO THE MUCH PREDICTED 2012 END OF TIMES. IT IS A SPIRITUAL WAR. NOT TO WORRY, WE DO HAVE HELP FROM ABOVE FROM A BENEVOLENT FEDERATION OF PLANETS WHO ARE TRYING TO TURN THINGS AROUND. OUR GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO US THERE TOO! LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL WAR!!! http://www.thegrandawakening.com

      Dont listen to "take the red pill" Reply:

      Your spiritual links are blasphemy against a Holy God. Stop leading people astray !

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=16

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      Glad to see you write “a” Holy God. Maybe you’re closer to the truth than you think!

      VIVA!!!

      darkstar Reply:

      what the hell are you smoking id like some because its gotta be really good to make you believe this crap.please stop posting and making the rest of us look like retards!

    4. Outrage Says:

      From Obama, Commander-in-Chef [can't come to type out the real term]:

      To the troops in Iraq,
      Mount up, turn east! Next stop, Iraq.
      Funny how much difference one silly little letter makes!

      MARIA Reply:

      Lololololololololol, yes it does

    5. SomeGuy Says:

      Wow this article is fucking pathetic Obama’s already announced the entire troop-pull out in Iraq. The only reason why they are staying until 2010-11 is because they have to leave RESPONSIBLY unlike the dickhead shit geniuses here who are wailing about how the occupation is going to continue the “occupation” if he just pulls all of the troops out immediately think about what happens next civil chaos.

      Sir Stevan Reply:

      Leave ‘RESPONSIBLY’ your fucking kidding me,,,, thats what they have been saying for the past 6 years. If you support staying in iraq or afghanistan just even one more day your a fucking asshole and you dont know shit so shut your little twat of a mouth. I have family over there and we were all told obama is gonna end the war but look at us now, my fam still over there so shut the fuck up you dick face. Get off of infowars goto a news site that breeds within your intelligence range.
      Fuck Face yes this is quite personal.

      SomeGuy Reply:

      Fuck you you son of a haji sympathizing bastard fuck why don’t you go tell it to another family who supports the war and see whether you can last a minute in their house telling them that their kid/son/daughter died in vein you chest-board beating cockroach. Who the fuck are you to tell me to get off infowars you Islamofascist maggot fuck. This is quite personal? You fucking damn right it is bitch I’d do anything to squeeze the fucking life out of an Islamist-loving sons of fucks and burn a scum rat vermin self-hating trash like yourself. And bitch stop putting words into my mouth you sorry fuck I never said the Iraq War was good, the Afghanistan is justified but I also think the US should pull out their too seeing as how these retarded Muslim shits have been going at it with themselves since their terrorist religion was born. Now go and fuck off to another country that supports your bullshit ideas about how the US and the West is this and that blah blah blah I could give a fucking fuck about what you think especially not from a retarded self-hating nut like yourself.

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      Good luck to you and your family, and to all ov thoze, including myself, who have family pawnz in the military. My prayerz for their survival and future well being. Poor soulz.

      VIVA!!!

      Sir Stevan Reply:

      I dont care if they have civil chaos or not we shouldnt have been there in the first place moron. IF one more american perishes its a tragedy fuck that country we need to leave asap. And fuck you of course. ;)

      darkstar Reply:

      nowhere does he say they are definitely coming home, just gonna look at it. first of all we have no business being there, second if they want to kill each other off what the hell business is it of ours? third if we brought the troops home tomorrow or in six more years things arent going to change there. fourth if were not spending billions on a war for oil we could get our economy back on track. people in america are sleeping in tents or their vehicles, thousands go to bed hungry all so we can control oil thousands of miles away. we need more like sir stevan god bless you. its only a matter of time till they try and put us in camps for our own good.

      Gabe Reply:

      Perhaps you can explain this then. Why did he also say 50′000 troops will remain in Iraq after the pullout? He completely changed that from his original statement that “All troops will be pulled from Iraq”. He even said that was just campaign rhetoric meaning he never planned to do that in the first place. And why is he escalating the situations with Iran, Pakistan, and to a lesser extent North Korea? He is going to put, I think, 400′000 troops in Pakistan now. All they are doing is taking over the entire middle east and massacring everyone in their path so they can steal all of the resources. They are stepping it up gradually, first it was Iraq, then they added Afghanistan, now it’s Pakistan, next it’ll probably be Iran, then North Korea, they are just adding new invasions gradually so we are desensitized to it.

    6. GMacD Says:

      Alex on the Albany County site I got in but they’ve cancelled all PDF downloads on the website!

      http://www.albanycounty.com/de.....0090309/09

    7. Resident sheeple: Extinction Says:

      Gee, and I thought he was a democrat…….

    8. John Henke Says:

      Obanga is a corporate shill just like Bush 43 and all of the others.

      He will do just as he’s told and be a good little president. But their day is just about over. Thank God!

    9. detdog Says:

      no difference between left and right? than why all the articles with savage, beck, limpballs. bush pulling out of iraq? news to me.the republicon are looking to pounce to stop the dems from philibuster proof majority in the mid term ,where are the articles about obama stopping the mexican trucks from coming past the25 miles that bush and the cons started, what about the free choice act to support unions and better wages, how about national health so the medical establishment can’t take your house car and paycheck.how about the fact that mexico is starting to put tariffs on goods coming into their country just like many others countries ,they are starting to unwind these trade agreements which is exactly what we should be doing to protect our wages and jobs we can turn this country around but not by hiding in our basements with guns and food but by getting engaged and putting progressives in office.how about something on susan lindauer the only person to be prosecuted under the patriot act and when she went to john mccain about the iraq war quagmire she was arrested by the f.b.i. oh yeh a.j. said maccain would be better than obama you have got to be kidding me . nothing could be worse than the cons. they always say limited government but what we really need is limited corporate power like they had when they founded this country,anti monopoly laws and high taxes on the rich would go along ways . you know the 2% that own 98%of the wealth and 50% of all income.

    10. cactusoftruth Says:

      look, u corrupt sad creature, the BIGGEST US embassy in the world is in Iraq; the 2nd Biggest Airport is in Afghanistan; the US will NEVER leave Iraq or the Middle East -at least not until ALL the oil is gone and eaten by US. Afghanistan is the POOREST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! and we are bombing the shit out of them, and some now with Obama’s Afghan troops surge. There is NO reason USA -the most powerful nation in the world- should bomb the hell the poorest people in the plant, NO justification for that! that is like Mirko Crocop fighting a legless man in a wheel chair, just awful!
      At least here in CA, the minimum wage is 8$ an hour. Adjusted for infaltion and the cost of living, MINIMUM WAGE IS A POVERTY WAGE! wake up you idiot!
      LAPD over here are fully militarized. the only difference here between LAPD and a Marine infantryman fighting in Iraq is that LAPD does not where camoflage or a helmet. The [militarized] police were body armor, have M4 carbines, armored vehicles (armored Dodge chargers), and a fleet of helicopters.
      Here in CA we are 47th in education spending and 1st in prison spending. before you think of saying anything racist against Mexicans or Black Folks know this: there is NO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, just Prisons EVERYWHERE!
      Our food and water is poisonous, causing cancer, birth deffects, and other reproductive harm. The National health care that Obama talks about is only to cover up the fact that the US public are being MASS POISONED!
      while Bankers get BILLIONS$$$, teachers are laid off.
      wake up, you fool.

      cactusoftruth Reply:

      this was directed at DETDOG

      icculus Reply:

      america is quickly becomming one of the most enslaving nations ever concieved, the time is here to be free and spread truth and have courage.

      SomeGuy Reply:

      Icculus: are you serious? Have you look at the Middle East? Communist countries?

      SomeGuy Reply:

      “There is NO reason USA -the most powerful nation in the world- should bomb the hell the poorest people in the plant”

      It ain’t about bombing it’s about sending a message to these fucks if you hurt us, expect to get wiped off the map. Still, it’s funny how Bush and Obama think they can build a democracy in Afghanistan i’d say let em fucking rot and kill emselves besides that’s the only thing they are good at.

      Tin Tin Reply:

      Dumbass going by your logic its you guys who should have their arses kicked by the Taliban. 9/11 was an inside job, you invaded Afghanistan, they should wipe your sorry arse off this planet, you Islamophobic nutcase. THE ONLY MESSAGE YOUR SENDING IS WHAT FUCKNG RETARDS YOU ALL ARE.

      SomeGuy Reply:

      Tin tin you Muslim jerkfuck yeah I hate Islam and I am fucking proud I hate Islam. As a matter of FACT, I would personally recommend a MUSLIM HOLOCAUST and that the entire would should send their 5000 ton nuclear bombs for the atrocities that your terrorist piece of shit religion has caused, responsible for killing and murdering 270 MILLION deaths for your bullshit Muhammad religion that cannot even take criticism and goes off issuing fatwas for anybody who disparages the Qu’ran. Fuck you and your religion Tin tin the bitch bitch like the people saying now on the Internet give Islam 20 – 50 years and it’ll be wiped off the map.

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      Amen!

      Fight on!!

      VIVA!!!

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      This wuz for “cactusoftruth”, by the way.

      VIVA!!!

    11. Rodney Says:

      but he black, that does change everything. my car has been running bad lately so i painted it today, it hasn’t started running better yet but i’m hoping it will soon…

      http://blogs.myspace.com/index.....=476160920

    12. Amrev360 Says:

      Time for gardens, get to know your neighbors.. we need to start helping homeless families relocate into foreclosed homes. Its a terrible shame that so many American families are homeless right now with so many homes vacant. Help a homeless family relocate into a foreclosed home, build an outhouse for them – fuck those bankers this is our land not theirs!

    13. The Traveling Mongolian Balloon Clown Says:

      so far, hes worse than bush…

    14. TakerOfCorporateSouls Says:

      Time to start planting everything…….everywhere…….what are they going to do???? if there is millions of plants everywhere, there is not enough people to pull them out of the ground….unless the obama corp volunteers are willing to do it…….just imagine, tomatoe plants, pepper bushes, corn, etc. etc……even hemp….planted everywhere……save all your egg shells for the water jugs and start buying up lime to mix into that clay based soil underneath the top soil….you get the picture….national park land is our park land…..state parkland is our parkland….the plot of dirt at the end of the street…..any questions…..

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      A true green revolution! I likes it!!!

      VIVA!!!

      PS Gearing up to take on an old lady who plants flowerz all over the groundz ov the complex i’m in…taking over fer veggeez. The timez they are a changin’! :)

    15. Research Says:

      Obama is just a pawn in all this. The plan was and is to surround Iran. http://www.truthconvicts.com/h.....-iran.html

    16. what? Says:

      It seems to me as long as the current democratic platform has pro-gay rights and pro-abortion rights on there agenda, the majority of dems just dont care, what else he does. Seriously… They really could give a hoot less. Its seems as if they would rather lose ALL OTHER RIGHTS before turning away from these abominations.

      what? Reply:

      Thats why the thought of being a democrat makes me Cringe. I really think what i said above just might be totally true.

    17. MARK Says:

      What about hope and change? Obama wanted to promote a good relationship with all Muslim countries. Bringing more troops into their countries will only promote more hatred and anger. He was going to get the troops out of Iraq and NOT stay in Iraq.

    18. MARK Says:

      Anti-War activists drank Obama’s Kool-Aid. Hope, Change. Yes We can have have more wars, death, and violence. Change for the worst. No hope. More lies and deception.

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      Not me, Dude! Didn’t fall fer it!

      Fight on!!

      VIVA!!!

    19. MARK Says:

      Since Obama has come in, Pakistan has been a mess.

    20. Jason Sieckmann Says:

      who expected anything less? I love that this guy was stupid enough to believe that the Iraq War was okay to go to at first; and NOW he’s an activist. We should really listen to him after he fucked up.

    21. X Says:

      Yep, the Amerikan people have really done themselves proud. Or is it some New World Order plot that installed Obama? You know, sooner or later the people should step up and take responsibility.

    22. X Says:

      Message to What?: It’s not just the democrats. You mentioned abortion, so let’s take that as an example. The republicans like to talk against abortion, but what do they DO? They talk, talk, talk, and do nothing. Since Roe vs. Wade abortion has continued through both liberal and “conservative” administrations alike. The majority opinion in Roe vs. Wade was written by Harry Blackmun, who was nominated for the court by that great republican president Richard Nixon.
      The republicans supposedly have the goal of adding a pro-life amendment to the constitution. When was the last time you heard of any action being taken to further that goal?
      Republicrats and demopubs…all the same.

      Kokoapelli Reply:

      Two forks ov the same tongue ov the Serpent. Been sayin’ it fer YEARZ now, and the massez ov sheeple STILL don’t get it! Sheesh!

      Fight on!!

      VIVA!!!

    23. National Alliance Says:

      The people should realize that Obama is no better than Bush when it comes to
      fullfilling his duty to the Zionist manipulators advising him and to the State of
      Israel. The war in Irag especially, was a criminal act on the part of the Bush
      administration and yet the citizens of this country will never see justine under
      the present and corrupt political system. Join the Revolution, join the National
      Alliance today!

    24. Diablo Says:

      Hahahhahahahaa you jebus freaks can go fuck off HAIL SATAN

    25. ryan Says:

      some guy, its just funny all the dumb minsinformed obama supporters a few months ago were talking about how we were never going to get out of iraq even when bush was working on and basically finished the status of forces agreements. then obama gets into office and starts publicizing it and all of a sudden obama seems like he’s made such great progress and hell after bushs’ 100 year occupation leaving 50,000 noncombatant forces seems great. now we’re going to start hearing about how this administration is going to sex up afghanistan

    26. Fight 4 Truth Says:

      Check out this topic on topix.com, the truth is coming out…..

      What did you think about “The Obama Deception” documentary?

      http://www.topix.com/forum/us/…..B#lastPost

      Fight 4 Truth Reply:

      http://www.topix.com/forum/us/.....B#lastPost

    27. shafii Says:

      Why dont you watch the obma deception ? and wake up and stop living in cloud co-co land, remember its free on google, or do you believe his lies, well get ready to get drafted and then get ready for pakistan or iran or both well thats of course after a false flag in which who know may be godfobid someone you know is killed for the greater good ie the ends justify the means, of you being used as a tool of the new world order….

    28. X Says:

      Why are just a handful of responses showing up? What happened to the rest of the posts?

    29. X Says:

      NOW they’re showing up. What’s going on?

    30. misfit@hotmail.com Says:

      yes, I agree “some guy”

      to call this reporting false is to be kind.

      well put man, the anti government shit on here is so extreme, you gotta wonder how much of it Alex believes and how much is theater?

    31. ERobertG Says:

      Just compare the crazed Alex Jones to the cool calm intelligent Barack Obama.

      Guess who’s winning the InfoWar?

    32. Gabe Says:

      The US Soldiers are killing Iraqis 200 to 1, and they are the aggressors? I think not. This is just a massacre, an invasion, pure and simple. By the greatest evil in the world, the United States Government. The only type of person who would think the United States Government is good are the ones who fall for the pathetic propaganda that the US Government itself is showing in order to rally Americans to their side to support them in these disguised atrocities.

      SomeGuy Reply:

      Infowars wow fucking cowards deleted my last post.