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Obama Administration Begins Opposition To States Claiming Sovereignty And Gun Rights
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The several states are lining up to reclaim their sovereignty and telling the federal government to butt out. This is being done in myriad ways but all are related in that most claim that the Tenth Amendment protects the states from federal tyranny. States are passing resolutions, memorials and two states have passed laws and they intend to apply those laws for their citizens. The two states are Montana and Tennessee.
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It was expected that at some point these laws would be challenged and it appears actions to do such has begun. The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that
federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws.“As you may know, federal law requires a license to engage in the business of manufacturing firearms or ammunition, or to deal in firearms, even if the firearms or ammunition remain with the same state. All firearms manufactured by a licensee must be properly marked. Additionally, each licensee must record the type, model, caliber or gauge, and serial number of each firearm manufactured or otherwise acquired, and the date such manufacture or other acquisition was made. Firearms transaction records and NICS background checks must be conducted prior to disposition of firearms to unlicensed persons. These, as well as other Federal requirements and prohibitions, apply whether or not the firearms or ammunition have crossed state lines.
In a report filed by CBS News, it seems to indicate that even though these states are claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment, the Federal Government may have power over such gun laws as the Firearms Freedom Act, via the Commerce Clause.
Read literally, the Tenth Amendment seems to suggest that the federal government’s powers are limited only to what it has been “delegated,” and the U.S. Supreme Court in 1918 confirmed that the amendment “carefully reserved” some authority “to the states.” That view is echoed by statements made at the time the Constitution was adopted; New Hampshire explicitly said that states kept “all powers not expressly and particularly delegated” to the federal government.
More recently, federal courts have interpreted the Tenth Amendment narrowly, in a way that justifies almost any law on grounds that it intends to regulate interstate commerce.
World Net Daily points out in an article of their own that the Montana Firearms Freedom Act bill declares that Congress has not “expressly pre-empted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition”.
I have been saying for some time that all of this will eventually wend its way through the courts ultimately landing at the feet of the United States Supreme Court. This is one reason the approval of Sonia Sotomayor as a Supreme Court justice is vitally important, especially due to the fact that she is anti Second Amendment and has shown little regard for the original intent of the Constitution.
Also at issue in this debate are pending lawsuits challenging gun laws in other states. Chicago’s gun ban is being challenged after the District of Columbia vs. Heller decision reaffirming an individual right to keep and bear arms. The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that federal gun laws do not pertain to the states, a position taken by Sotomayor.
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While we are discussing the Fourteenth Amendment, the Second Amendment and Ninth and Tenth, the BATFE is sending out public letters, assumed to be authorized by the Obama administration, to federal firearms dealers in Montana and Tennessee, stating that federal law supersedes state laws, at least as they pertain to firearms and ammunition.
Where will this all end up? I believe the Supreme Court but I know not how long this may take. In the meantime, the Obama administration, made up of mostly anti-gun people, are grasping to gain control over your right to keep and bear arms. From the day Obama was elected, the people rushed to stores buying up guns and ammunition at unprecedented rates. With the combination of a new president and staff known to want to ban gun and gun sales and the District of Columbia vs. Heller ruling, it has helped spur more laws to relax gun restrictions. This, I am positive, angers the Obama administration.
None of this comes as a surprise to Gary Marbut, President of the Montana Shooting Sports Association. Marbut was directly responsible for the Montana Firearms Freedom Act. In a letter sent to his members of MSSA, Marbut points out what he views as little concern over the letter and how it was expected.
1) The letters are addressed only to FFLs and purport to assert authority only over those licensees already under the federal thumb because of their licenses. We’ve always assumed that people with existing FFLs would not be players in the state-made guns exercise because they will not wish to risk thwarting the earned reputation the BATFE has for vindictiveness. The letters are not addressed to non-FFLs, those folks who are potential participants in the state-made guns business.
2) The BATFE letters may lack any official import because they are not signed by the official who appears in the signature block, but by some unknown other person. It’s difficult to place much credence in a missive upon which the purported issuing person is unwilling to put his signature, and for which the signer is unknown.
3) The essence of the letter is a declaration that the laws that the BATFE enforces supercede the U.S. Constitution and the Tenth
Amendment. I understand that the BATFE hopes that is so, but that’s far from proven yet. (We still recommend that nobody make these state-made guns until we can litigate and vet the principles involved.)4) The letters, if they are official even though unsigned by the issuer, will help us establish standing to get this issue squarely before the federal courts. The feds have thrown down the gauntlet.
I like Montana’s approach to their action in the creation of their Firearms Freedom Act. They are proactively seeking to bring this issue to the courts for a ruling. They believe in their own state’s constitution and that they, according to their contract with the people and the United States Government, have the sovereignty and freedom under the U.S. Constitution, to make their own laws in matters such as this.
This will be a long and drawn out affair but one that is ripe for a good battle. Let’s hope this battle arrives before Obama can stack the Supreme Court with more anti-gun “empathetic” justices.
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July 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Who cares if the supreme court throws the states rights issue to the Feds?
Any court that decides against the constitution is null and void.
Period.
censored31 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Spread the word out by creating blogs or websites and start campaign of mailing to everybody
Boycot their zionist products: ALL OF THEM
do not vote
do not vaccinate you or your family and spread the word out
defend yourself and your family against state terrorists
censored31 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
DON’T WATCH THE NEWS and the Television or don’t read newspapers…they control and manipulate you that way…
Jmalone Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
you are saying don’t watch news? One of the first steps in being a american is to be informed! I for one am glad to see people like Alex Jones that are willing to stand up for his rights and his country.
Theres an old saying, I’d Rather die on my feet then live on my knees!
When do you start taking a stand?
Illinois Sons of Liberty Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
If you live in Illinois and want to reach other info Warriors and help form and maintain an unorganized militia which is our constitutional right as american citizens then please join the http://www.ILLINOISSONSOFLIBERTY.com website. Its a facebook type platform where the different members from the different regions can chat and make dates for meetings. If you want this movement to grow and you live in Illinois or near to illinois then join this sire.
thanks
Illinois Sons of Liberty
Dead Rabbit Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
“DON’T WATCH THE NEWS and the Television or don’t read newspapers…they control and manipulate you that way…”
YEAH! But websites are not subject to any manipulation in any way, it’s 100% truth by people with nothing but our welfare at mind and are well-researched investigations into important issues!!!!
Whatever. I’ve been looking at a lot of these websites today for one article: Obama taking on the thuggish police actions involving the Harvard prof. NOT ONE!
Why not? Because the article does not make sense if you only see the world in the Us vs Them mode. So many articles are about how the govt is giving the police the power to come in your house, steal your guns, kidnap your kids, and impregnant your wife with thier huge, NWO junk.
So when the President calls the police actions in this case out of line, how does that affect your pre-conceived notions of how the world works?
Not one article on these websites about this story. A president standing up to the jack-boot cops, and not one story!!! Please, infowars is just as bad as Daily Kos: they just report the world view of it’s auidence.
PatriotRadioNews Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Keep up the fight! I often feel like our situation is hopeless, but its not. If you don’t know what to do, write your congressmen, (you should only have one in the House representing your district,) and your senators (You should only have 2 for your State), and that’s it! Easy.
Still, another idea is to join the NRA. Seriously. $25-$35 annual membership, or $1000 lifetime membership, and it comes with a free magazine subscription. Let them do the fighting for you, just help them financially. You won’t find a better group dedicated to the Constitution. Join your children early for lifetime memberships at $500 each!
Don’t Tread On Me. Keep up the good fight, and remember, you are not alone in your cause. We are here. We are out there. We are your Fellow Countrymen!
Barry's Crack Pipe Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
The facts surrounding that Harvard professor are not clear. From the one story I read, it sounds like much of the problem was precipitated by the professor. He had to break into his own house. Okay, that happens. Nothing wrong there. But when the police show up and ask you for identification, you better damn well show it. You can’t just say, “I live here, I don’t have to show you anything.” (I am paraphrasing). Under those circumstances, it is justified for an LEO to request identification. Race has nothing to do with it. There is nothing to report. Sorry, but Infowars is not biting on the race baiting propaganda.
Matt Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Standing up to them? He was purely concerned with the fact that a black man got arrested. Nothing more.
You’re not seeing the difference between a Government as an entity and the men in the Government. Obama will use the police as jackbooted thugs for his purposes and then turn on them when that serves him.
The Professor got what he wanted – Equality. Cops have been arresting people left and right for years for not “complying”, well, now he’s part of the club. If he’d gotten beaten and tasered he would have been right next to the WHITE pastor who got his ass kicked by the border patrol.
Come on man – you can do better than this.
DAN Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
JOIN GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA, NOT NRA. The nra is a rat fink organization that has sold out american gun owners to the frog in the hot water method of eventually outlawing all guns, instead GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA IS THE FUN GUN OWNERS BEST BET TO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF GUN OWNERS..
Dead Rabbit Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Barry’s Crack Pipe: I cannot believe you actually said “But when the police show up and ask you for identification, you better damn well show it.” That’s disgusting. Has America become a country that if you don’t do everything some community college drop-out with a badge tells you to do, while you are in YOUR OWN HOUSE you deserve to be arrested?
Cops don’t even have that power on the street. And now you are suggesting that an American citizen, in his own home, should submit to the whims of a cop whatever they may be? People like you are the reason why the Patriot Act is still in effect.
Every American has the right to life, liberty, and property. Find me one thing in the constitution that gives the police more authority over the people than the people have over the state. We are the state!
And I think it’s funny you bring up race. Am I reading that if the Harvard prof was white as well, it WOULD be on infowars, as another example of police power abuse? There are always artciles about how police are harrassing, tasering, and sometimes murdering innocent Americans. Why not this article? Why not this time?
A police officer walked into an innocent man’s house and arrests him because he would not follow the orders of a cop . . .and you are on the side of the police? Dude, I think you’re on the wrong website.
Matt-OK I’ll keep this short cause Barry’s Crack Pipe deserved that long of a response. I have to say that I do see your point about using the cops when he wants and complaining when he wants. But don’t you think the article should at least be on here? Even if Obama didn’t enter the discussion, how many articles have we all read involving a similiar account of abuse of power. Again, why not this article
1st LAI Bn TOW Gunner Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
The Infowars et all Team does not have infinite time to recirculate every single happening on the planet that we may feel warrants further attention. There are limited resources for them and no matter how you slice it, the clock still ticks each day, all 24 hours. There are bigger stories covered. Make a donation before making a request. Regardless you can do the work yourself.
Not On My Watch Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Matt, Ill do you one better. This is Obama watching his approval ratings Plnge and his Support base in the ethnic population realizing what a sellout he really is.So now he will pick a case where the public perception is a black man being picked on by the police. A Harvard Professor?Now if it was a an entire neighborhood of poor working class families of Mixed race I might have cared about his deed.The arguement I heard was using the POLICE REPORT as it’s bais for condemning the Black Guy.You want to make progress is this battle we have to drop the race card. There is only The Tyrants and the Victims.There’s no racial issue except the ones the eugenecists hold.When was the last time you walked into a job with LEGAL CITIZENS of ANY Race or religion and Felt Animosity toward any of them that wasn’t stemmed from an outside influence?I can’t think of a time EVER that any Person in this day and age that even noticed or cared about ethnicity.When you buy into the Race game you are being manipulated.It’s a diversionary tactic ment to keep us from Uniting.God used it at the Tower of Babel according to the Bible.For exactly the same purpose.
buddah Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Mr gates was frustrated and started yelling at the cop the cop asked him to calm down MR gates brought up the issue of race by saying that ur doing this because im a black man in america. NO the cop went there to investigate a breaking an entery asked for an id didnt say anything racial. peopel are saying well the cop should have known that he was irate and should have left after establishing his identification. well the prfesser should have calmed down and realized that the policeman was responding to a 911 call about a robbery in progress. and be happy that the police did their job. people have ben usuing the “WHAT IF” scenerio today all day saying if he was white this wouldnt have happened. this is entirely false if any citizen violated the law the get acted on the same way regardless of color. MR gates turned a simple confusion by the NEIGHBOR, cause the neighbor called it in it wasnt the cop deciding to walk up to his house cause he was black, into a racial issue cause he wanted to chew out a cop. WHAT IF there had been real burgelers in the house with mr gates im sure his attitude would have been much different when the officer showed up. AND IF HES GONNA CONTINUE TO CLAIM THAT THIS IS RACIAL PROFILING, GET IT RIGHT ACCUSE THE NEIGHBOR OF RACIAL PROFILING CAUSE AFTER ALL THEY ARE THE 1 THAT CALLED THE POLICE. I HAPPEN TO NOT ONLY KNOW THE NAMES OF MOST PEOPLE ON MY BLOCK I DEFFINATLY KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
TahliaAngel Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Dead Rabbit: He wasn’t in his house, he was trying to break into his own house. The police officer didn’t know if the guy was telling the truth. He wasn’t complying with the police officer, who wasn’t being racist. The police officer was being very reasonable. Of course, this isn’t usually the case, but this time it was.
passive resistance Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
“Patriot Radio News” is misinformed (respectfully) and Dan’s post is spot on ! The NRA is a judas goat organization . I was a member for years and recently joined Gun Owners Of America , a true Second Amendment watchdog . Gun owners rights have little to do with shooting “Bambi’” and everything to do with protecting American’s natural right and duty to protect against tyrannic oppression ! International banksters and their government-lapdog prostitutes can go to Hell ! Sincerely.
Butt Wad Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
The ‘president’ [sic] is an asshole. ‘professor’ Gates is a friend of OldBummers, and, in the opinion of a black policeman that was on scene during the incident, the arrest was 100% justified. OldBummer has been trying to back away from his assinine statement, since even HE
now realizes that HE handled it ‘Stupidly’.
Anyone that comes after my guns, enters my property without my permission, etc., is subject to be shot dead instantly. Fuck ‘em if they can’t take a joke.
Myfriendscallmetiny Reply:
July 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
As far as information is concerned I got rid of my Satellite dish – I refuse to pay for literally a 12 inch sewer line that runs into my livingroom. Unlike piped in TV the internet is like an ocean with polluted and clean waters and you get to choose where to swim. I enjoy people becoming the media and reporting firsthand what is going on. I have become so tired of a group of talking heads telling us what happened or trying to reprogram us by telling us what is OK to think and what is CRAZY. To hell with them – lets all do this – a lot of us have and the big boys aka “THE MSM” are seeing double digit drops in viewership.
I'M TAKEING BACK MY FREEDOM WHAT ABOUT YOU Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
i know what you ment, but watching main media, is the way to know what their next step will be, or what lie are selling, for you to wake up friends and family
a voice Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
its taking you numbskull
Northern Wilderness Boy Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Just remember, anytime you read something for information ask yourself:
1) Is that true?
2)What is the authors bias? (ie Alex thinks 911 was an inside job and the government wants to kill us, he’s biased) (not that I disagree)
3)What is the source? (peer reviewed paper or my buddy’s uncle Buck?)
4)What pertinent information may have been left out?
And if ever there are statistics, either make sure you fully comprehend the manner in which their results where derived, or don’t trust them.
“35% of accidents are cause by drunken drivers.
The other 65% are not Alcohol related.
What does this tell us about the drunk drivers?
They seem to have a better record than the sober team!” NOFX
Kim American Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Manning is boycotting all the CFR corporations!
Tell all!!
atlah .org
brainy smurf Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Doe’s your blue logo say Discover Huckabee?What’s upwith that?
The Whyman Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Define “Zionist”
Vote Cullen Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Jason Cullen For New Jersey Governor 2009
http://www.votecullen.com
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
fk obama
WHO CARES WHAT SOME FOREIGNER SAYS.
THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN THE US, IS WE THE PEOPLE.
WE ARE THE OPPOSITE OF EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
WE RULE THIS LAND AND GOV. IS OUR SERVENT.
jt Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I say storm the court during this ruling with automatic weapons and say “All Who wishes they had a gun now, Say I ?!?!”
1st LAI Bn TOW Gunner Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Interesting!
Rick Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 11:16 am
LOL Ha, its great. They are so hypocritical some of them will be packing, they just do not want you or I to have a gun. Armed people scares the crap out of these treacherous bastards.
Hologram5 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am
This is true until a black panel van marked DHS shows up with a swat team. The entire country of states needs to stand up as a whole against the tyranny of the fed gov for this to make a difference.
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
.50 BMG defeats an armored DHS van, and all terrorist occupants.
Ted Reply:
July 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Just remember, ARMS, HANDS, FACE and THROAT! Full “battle rattle” leaves those areas vulnerable. The .50BMG is the best option, but an AR or AK can be VERY effective!
javinder Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:47 am
thats right..no one can take your liberties especially some kenyan…since when do we let ausrtians run states (CALIFORNIA) and kenyans run the country…what kind of shit is that do we not have any worthy americans of being in office..or are we just foreigners bitches..WE HAVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS RUNNING THE COUNTRY!!!!!!
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
And remember that California, on its own, would be one of the biggest, richest, most powerful countries in the world. So there is indeed a foreigner running one of the most important countries in the world, which is California. That, and 10 million illegal aliens in California alone, and look what a mess we are in now! California has become a crowded, polluted, sweltering, bankrupted cesspool, and all in the space of my lifetime! When I was born, California had just 10 million residents. Now it has nearly 40 million. It used to be known as being politically conservative, now, thanks to massive legal and illegal immigration allowing the importation of collectivist mindsets, to the point of completely displacing the formerly individualist population, California is a lost cause, with more long-time residents leaving for other states than Americans from other states coming here. But still the mass influx madness continues unabated. Seems that so long as it is better being unemployed here than elsewhere, they will come, making jobs irrelevant.
Katherine Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RJB,
I remember the California you remember before the public employee unions and illegals took it over. Anyone hard working and honest is screwed in this state. I can hardly wait to leave – have a house to sell first so it could be awhile. Anyway, it will be interesting when all the taxpayers leave or stop working and the public employee unions and illegals have no one to suck off of anymore, what will happen then? Any ideas on this future state of affairs? If Gerald Celente is correct in his forecasts, we don’t have very long to wait for the answer.
a voice Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Move to MT the last best place( its too cold for illegals)
IzzE Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Aman brother!!!!
I wish everyone remeber that we have guns to fight corrupting governments. If they get something to pass that will enable them to take my guns, I will give them the bullets first, muahahaha!!!
Sam Coy Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Maybe that was true before 1913…but those days have long passed my friend.
cranky Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Damn straight!!!! A little unknown fact about jury trials . . . .IF THE people of the JURY DEEM the laws they are supposed to enforce UNCONSTITUTIONAL then indeed THEY are not bound by SAID LAWS and can enter a verdict THEY see fit.
Too many times judges instruct jurors of the law telling them THEY MUST DO THIS OR MUST DO THAT. It is time to take back the country and enforce the CONSTITUTION. If ANY law is deemed unjust it is UNJUST. From here on out if you ever are a member of ANY JURY please remeber these facts. Act as if the Constitution is your guide and NEVER ever ENFORCE an UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW!
peace
jt Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Jury’s are always made up of sheeple…remember that
Mackiavelli Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Or federal plants.
Inject this! Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:35 am
The key words in your statement being “little (un)known fact”.
Although you are absolutely correct, there are too many people who know absolutely nothing about just about everything.
Just remember Ed and Elaine Brown got convicted on every count in every trial
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I HAD JURY DITY 2 TIMES AND REGARDLESS OF THE OFFENSE I VOTED NOT GUILTY AND WOULDNT CHANGE.
I CAUSED A MIS TRAIL 1 TIME. THE 2ND TRIAL FOUND THE MAN INNOCENT…….
brainy smurf Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Did you do it for shits and giggles or did you actually come to an educated decision?
Ben Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
You sabotaged unfair courts; you did the right thing. Whether the accused was guilty or not, you saved him from the corrupt incompetence of modern courts. Even the guilty deserve honest tribunals.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
OldHickory Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Very good! Set the animals loose to kill and rape whitey some more. That’s a great solution. Just better hope they don’t get your family. Oh, how the founders would be proud. Great way to fight the system!
Toecutter Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Old Hickory Dickory Dumb;
I fail to find anything in MAD DOGS comment that says anything about race. You must think that white guys dont go to jail because they dont commit crimes. Your an idiot. An before you unleash your ignorant toung ON ME, KNOW THIS. I’m a decorated Viet Nam vet. I’m white, my assistant gunner and ammo bearer were both black. Both good, brave, trustworthy honest men.
The good part about a blog is site such as this is KEYBOARDS ARE COLOR BLIND, you should be too. Try it sometime.
I spent there days in trial court do to a cop that thought it was illegal for me to pass him on the street. Verdict. Not guilty. The cop lied, the jury knew he lied. I picked him apart bit by bit. But you never know till the jury is in.
I hope that you dont ever experience that but if you do you will wish the jury to have the moral authority to do the right thing and distinguish truth from fiction and the fortitude to stick to their GUNS, pun intended.
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Only upstanding citizens get jury duty. Keep up the good work Mad Dog.
primitive patriarch Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Aptly put, my friend. Please research the “Fully Informed Jury Association”. You will find out that any one charged with a crime that is brought before a jury can not only have that charge dismissed, but any “law” deemed unconstitutional by any jury can be declared so and the law can be repealed BY THAT JURY!! “They” harrass public defenders who try to bring this up to seated juries and some attys. have been brought into the Judges chambers and threatened if they try to disclose this to the juries seated in the trials that are going on. http://www.fija.org/ is the link. Check it out.
Parker Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Thanks so much for this link! For months I have been eagerly waiting to “do some good” as a juror. I agree that “Judicial Activists” and out of control regulation wonks MUST be countered by Jurist Activism”.
Everyone serve! Cripple the “courts of LAW” and replace them with “courts of JUSTICE”
It’s up to you!!!
Kim American Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Yes. A juror has more power than a Judge.
Everybody know your rights!!!
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
You are talking about “jury nullification”, and it is the principle that the job of the jury is not just to judge the facts, but to also judge the law itself. The jury has the right and power to nullify ANY law, if it feels that doing so is necessary for JUSTICE, which is the entire point of having laws, courts, judges, and most of all, juries.
But many judges will not even allow the words “jury nullification” to be spoken in their courtroom, and if you even ask about it, they will instantly disqualify and dismiss you from the jury, just for asking. I have considered changing my legal name to “Jury Nullification” so that if I am ever in court, they cannot avoid the issue, because they must speak my name in order to conduct any case against me. Surely, having such a an usually name ought to make the jury and everyone else in the courtroom curious as to what it means.
superman Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
You are exactly right! That is why the current legal system calls them trial BY jury. Meaning, literally, the actual commercial court is having the hearing by/close to/near a jury. A Jury trial is the lawful way, the trial by jury is the commercial way.
One is lawful, the other LEGAL.
David Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
That would be every law on the books because the US (sic) Supreme Court has ruled that every law must have an enacting clause or statement on the face of it – that is so WE THE PEOPLE can know by whose authority the law is given – if not then it is NULL and VOID! Most state constitutions have this written in as well. Iowa for instance says that the style of the law shall ‘be it enacted by the general assembly of the State of Iowa.” At the end of their constitution it say “If any any law does not conform to this constitution, it shall be deemed NULL and VOID.’ Hmmm … I wonder if we can charge them with barratray?
angelfire Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am
So basically the author waits until the end of the article to question whether the letters are even authentic? Not sure they are even valid letters? It would be nice if author Remington would verify his information BEFORE he prints it. This is how dis-information (something this website supposedly resists) gets out into the public. Nice try guys….
lobohall Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:30 am
looks like us Texas boys need to head up to Tennessee. Seems we have a debt to repay!!!
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Well said. Good of you to remember…..The Alamo.
gordy three horses Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
hay lobohall is it ok for ozy to come back for another visit to the alamo? i heard he is taking lasix now.
David Reply:
July 27th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I agree with that!
jos Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:51 am
AGREE AGREE,
killtheempire.blogspot.com Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Exactly, any law, legislation, or supreme court ruling, contrary to the Constitution is null & void….
GeneralJones4u Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Please click on my name and visit the daily log if you wish to remain a free american. My comments do not survive moderation if I post my link for some odd reason.
Mike Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Talk is cheap, sooner or later the people will have to go to war with the government. I say it just as well be now. You know it’s comming , they know it’s comming, they just haven’t figured out what to do with all the ammo and guns on the streets. They know it will be bloody, and long. Any governemnt that thinks it will be quick is crazy. It will be fought one street at a time, one house at a time. There will be no massive raids without high causilites on both sides. There are groups in waiting for this monment. We will see how the police and troops like seeing Americans killing Americans. You think I am crazy, this has been predicted back in the late seventies, and just recently a senior Russian wrote a paper on the dissolution of the USA by the second Civil War. It’s not if it will happen, but when. My assumption will be the early morning hours when they start breacking down doors confiscating guns. These will be the first shots fired in the next civil war.
making my stand Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I think you hit the nail right on the head and agree with everything you have said. Here in the midwest small town where I live, I have been sounding out(carefully) other residents and they feel very strongly about the right to bear arms. Belive me, there’s going to be a
bloody battle if the feds try to come to this town and go to people’s homes to take their guns.
A lot of us are either ready or just about ready……
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Agreed.
Sooner, the better, for us.
Each day that passes only sees the government growing stronger and the people weaker. Better to get on with it now, while we can still prevail. At this point, waiting only gives further advantage to the tyrants.
Rick Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Yep.
Patriot-er Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The ‘People’ need to realize that the BATF was established and is working for the interests of the Bankster cabal and the Illuminati, NOT the American people. It is a foreign run institution, therefor it has no place or authority here in the States unless of course the States ‘allow’ them to. Remember, one ‘consents’ their power to the Other. You have a Choice, you are not a slave to the Fed, unless, of course….you say so.
Defend the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights or every soldier that has passed ‘defending’ these Rights was for nothing. Think hard about what these NWO folks want to ‘take’ from you….then defend your Rights.
I'LL BE YOUR HUCKLEBERRY Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Listen, a noise on the mountains, like that of a great multitude! Listen, an uproar among the kingdoms, like nations massing together! The Lord Almighty is mustering an army for war.-Is13.4
See, the Name of the Lord comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.-Is30.27
With justice he(the head of man) judges and makes war.-Rev19.11
The armies of heaven were following him-Rev19.14
WW2 last war America won and last war Constitutionally declared
Ike Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
are we cross?law dont go around here lawdog
Brad Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Exactly right. LOUD applause….
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Right on, the whole federal government is totally and completely illegitimate, and filthy rotten to the core. and the American people are not buying into their bullshit any more, and the states are not any better with their scams, schemes and unlawful tax’s and hi way robberies, I don’t rally around any state or federal government my loyalties are to the people and that’s taken with a small grain of salt. Its was the mass of stupid people who voted these losers into office. And believe me they will pillage your shit quick, fast and in a hurry, when times are bad or when T.S.H.T.F. they will rat you out for a crumb of bread or a thimble full of water, you can’t count on them, when the time comes trust nothing that you hear and no one. You can only rely on your self, especialy the so called leaders. Your own mother will sell you out, when the time comes.
zobcity1 Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am
Absolutely correct!
100% true!
I will once I come back to the US will put all FED \ Stae \ city \ county entities on full constructive notice I am recinding and expatriotizing immediately & irrevokably from their concerns and structures and with prdudice.
Jenn Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Look its pretty simple they know they are losing control, why do you think they are harping this swine flu so much. This fall things will really get out of control for them and they need this much like they needed 9/11 at the time. In terms of the ATF they are the most hated agency in the Govt not only by the public but by other agencies within the Govt. Their days in power are coming to an end and they are doing what any other bully does when he sees the light. its much like John Gotti when he got arrested screaming at them “dont you know who I am, dont you know who you’re fkin with” typical bully attitude, they are a bit scared at what is in store for them legally with all of the people they have killed.
Johnny Reb Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 9:53 am
The civil war was about state’s rights. We must all support sates rights and their sovereignty as well as our own personal rights and sovereignty.
The Family Guardian:
The best site on the web for understanding your RIGHTS as an American NATIONAL that is SUPERIOR to being a CITIZEN!
http://famguardian.org/index.htm
Unohu Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
famguardian.org
good website. just wont work with the/index.htm.
I am amazed at what most citizens dont know about their rights. And how little control the government actually has. if you have the balls to stand up to them.
srg.sendenko Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Obama is a racist! AND is against the the 2nd amendment and has yet to prove that he is a American citizen! Therefore anything he says or signs or does is therefore nullified.Obama is just a monkey on a string!This is the beginning of the end of our rights to bear arms.SO AMERICANS WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!! Give them up or say you can take my gun from my COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IF you give up your firearms without a putting up a fight then we deserve what happens to us.The 2nd amendment is the foundation of all our rights we lose it and were done and stand in line and drink the fuckin kool-aide!!!!!!!!!!!
Prophet Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Whatever happens, we need to be worried about OPERATION BLACKOUT!!!! That is the blackout of everything! Electricity, banks, money, food, water, war and so on…… Just make sure you stand up for yourselves, stockpile your food and water, money(gold and silver) and guns/ammunition, health supplies and so on. Don’t be fooled by the stock market rise. These companies fired a bunch of people and have less overhead now and got tarp, so their able to make profits, but that’s just a farce. AMERICA… you are beautiful and we will defend you til the end and we will defend our liberties. From now until the end of the year, you have a chance to make a difference in your life and others, take the risk to be prepared and kind to your neighbors. Get your money out of stocks and banks now, the bank holiday will be soon! When the bank holiday hits, you will not have a chance in a few days to get it out!!! Remember or read about the depression!!!!
many names Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Speaking of Sonia Sotomayor…..
Why is that Biiach always posing for pictures, with a smile and her head cocked sideways?
Like a FUCKING LAP DOG.
kebcreation Reply:
July 26th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Obviously Obama is against the States in any way shape or form. That is treason as I recall when the Feds rise up in tyranny above the States. Surely that is the domestic enemy we were warned about in the Constitution. Why is he not being brought up on treason charges? Americans everywhere ought to sign a huge petition we want him out and his goonies too.
j Reply:
July 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Obviously everyone has forgotten that tommorrow they are validating the homeland security system ! wich means they start it ! it is being implemented ! its not going to stop ! they are validating wich means to be validated !
July 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
States claiming sovereignty? Laughable…
ted Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Kayhla = instigator, federal spook, anti american foreigner
ted Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
yeah dont watch the news
Kayhla Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Name one state that is immune from the Feds in reality and practice, and I will admit that I am a spook. Dipshit.
free the people Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
we are all immune when we choose not to be…….. dipshit
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I CHOOSE NOT TO BE….
REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME….
Kayhla Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Can’t name one, can you ^^ And can’t read either it seems. Wasn’t talking about individuals, but about the collectives known as states… literacy would solve many problems…
Kevin Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
The State of the Union.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:51 am
I bet you like spankings.
TakerOfCorporateSouls Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
if 2/3rds of the states suceed from the union kayla, then the federal gvt. is dissolved….period…..no discussion……we all know that they (feds) will fight for their illagitamency tooth and nail, but by the laws on the books and THE CONSTITUTION, this is fact……so live in delusion federal spook…….
roaddog Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Kayhla—actually, you kinda hit it right on the head. Most states are going bankrupt and they need the federal gov’t on many different levels. Plus, todays state workers are tomorrows fed workers. It’s the next logical step up in gov’t. I can see states passing some laws that take some power back, but not total sovereignty. The state where I’m at has gun laws that are for the state citizens. Maybe when the states don’t need the fed no more, they’ll join together and bring about the amerika that has 5/6 sections and is run by the u.n.
free the people Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am
remember 1776 asses!!!!!!
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
THESE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM ALL IS LOST DONT SPEAK FOR ALL OF US.
THEY’RE JUST A MEMBER OF THE REMAINING POPULATION THAT DIDNT JOIN THE REVOLUTION IN 1776.
IT’S WE WHO DID, AND WILL ,,,WELL
THEIR OPINION MATTERS…..
WOLVES DONT FOLLOW SHEEP…
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I VIEW ALL THE , ALL’S LOSTS POSTS
AS FILLER JUNK SONGS ON AN OLD ALBUM, THEY ARE THERE JUST TO TAKE UP SPACE.
jayce Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Isn’t there a section in the Constitution that allows states to develop their own currency and monetary systems?
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am
It IS laughable if 2 details are missing in their “sovereignty declarations”:
1. The resolution postively states that if Federal troops are sent to
occupy sovereign state soil it shall be considered an act of war,
causing that state to SECEDE from the Union immediately.
2. The formation of a county-by-county STATE MILITIA answerable to
the governor and citizens of that sovereign state ONLY which may be
called upon to defend that state against unconstitutional “aggression”
by the Federal Gov’t and if necessary repel any illegal incursion by
Federal troops.
Son of Norris Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Chuck Norris for President of Republic of Texas!! He does not sleep, he waits.
"ren Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
anyone who puts up a sign on his property that reads “we dont call 911 here” with a picture of an ak, has my vote, not to mention the fact that he has a cute butt.
Hologram5 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Good post, this is what we need to send to our state Govs and legislatures and hopefully they have the balls to act on it.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
THATS NOT AN UNORGANIZED MILITIA.
WE THE PATRIOTS SHOULD BE STARTING A FUND AND FORMING STATE MILITIA’S.
AT A MINIUM A RAPID MILITIA REACTION FORCE AND AUX BASES NATION WIDE.
kathy Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
It may seem laughable to you Fubar but what we all need to realize is there will come a time when we the people are so fed up we will no longer care what is in the written documents that are called “laws”. People have to wake up and realize that we are sovereign because we were born that way. (Not because the Constitution said so) although I love the Constitution and believe they did a good job in trying to convey the fact to us that we are born with rights that a government can’t take away. They can’t take them away at a state level or a federal level. If I’m not hurting you then my rights to live free are infinite! If only our so called law makers could understand that AND if our fellow citizens could understand too….the world would be a much better place.
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
LISTEN and understand!
States “declaring sovereignty” IS NOT LAUGHABLE UNLESS THE
DECLARATION IS JUST ANOTHER DOG & PONY SHOW WITH
NO REAL “TEETH” TO ENSURE THAT SOVEREIGNTY!
Get it now? If the FED criminals CARE NOTHING FOR THE MOST
IMPORTANT DOCUMENT IN U.S. HISTORY, (Constitution) ANY
DOCUMENT DECLARING STATE SOVEREIGNTY FROM GOV’T
THUGS MUST INCLUDE MEASURES TO BACK IT UP!
The only thing that’s “laughable” in this is MORE EMPTY THREATS
FROM CHICKEN-SHIT LEGISLATORS.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:54 am
That will cause federal troups to take over the states, by force,.
see, civil war for details.
JJ Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Your laughable take your defeatest BS somewhere else. We who have faith are the ones that made this country. You represent all the wining do nothing losers that have plagued this country from the beginning. Take your loser attitude somewhere else.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I SEE HOW WE HAVE ANY OPTION BUT TO RESIST
LET ALONE A CHOICE.
IT’S OUR DUTY.
WE’RE OBLIGATED UNDER THE 2ND AMENDMENT TO FIGHT TO THE DEATH AGAINST ENEMIES.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Their dead, try again.
free the people Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:47 am
douche
George [Costanza] Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
The states aren’t claiming anything.
They are asserting their authority.
The people are above the states, the states are above the federal government.
Katherine Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
One hundred percent correct!
making my stand Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
you claiming intelligence? ha ha ha ha ha!!!
DemoGuy Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Kayhla,
What do you have against the ideal of state-sovereignty?
Even if it isn’t the norm yet, should we not strive for this in the future?
It is clear our forefathers believed in this ideal, & by God it’s worth fighting for!
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Whats laughable is your unfathomable blind ignorance.
Before the federal government, there were the states. Before the states, there were the people. That which is created can never be sovereign over that which was its creator.
WE the People created the states, and delegated powers to them, which could not have occurred unless WE were the sovereign. The States, acting in our behalf, formed the Federal government, and delegated to it certain limited and specifically enumerated powers, via the constitution. This could not possibly have occurred unless the states were in fact sovereign over their creation, which was the federal government.
The natural order of things, in descending order, is God, man, and then government. Governments are not the sovereign over man, just as man is not the sovereign over god. Each must serve their Creator, because they own their very existence to them. Man must serve God, government must serve man, and the federal government must serve and protect the states, not rule over and dominate them.
When the federal government no longer serves the states, and the people whom the states were established to serve, then it must be abolished. Like Frankenstein’s monster, the creation has run amok, believing itself to be the sovereign, and so, as a usurper of power, and a danger to the creator it was created to serve, it must be burned alive, by burning down the entire castle, if necessary.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:56 am
This is true.
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Allright then how about sessesion dipshit!
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Secession must at least be inferred in a state sovereignty declaration
or that declaration is nothing but another empty resolution.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:35 am
yeah, the 14th screwed us all and was pushed through after the civil war… lincoln was the start of tyranny and in truth a pro-slavery biggot that ‘tacked’ slavery to keep the working white class in jobs instead of people using ‘free labor’… don’t get me wrong, slavery needed to end, but the civil war was about federal power and nothing more…
busydi Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Yes! Thank you for stating the truth about Lincoln and the reason for the Civil War.
I taught in a private Christian school for 3 years whose history books, starting in 2nd grade, lauded Lincoln for his anti-slavery campaign. I spoke the same truth as you mention in your post. I also refused to display posters of Lincoln on the grounds that he went against the 10th amendment. The high school students at this particular private school were very inquisitive about my reasons for not agreeing to his ‘greatness’ stating that, “Lincoln ended slavery and kept the United States from separating which would have weaken our country; is was for the greater good.”
The teacher education classes taught at the college I attended also pushed the anti-slavery rhetoric through instructional materials and tests. Very little is mentioned about states’ rights as the true reason the North and South fought against each other.
Nevada joined the Union in 1864 in a rushed manner just so Lincoln could gain votes he needed to win his second term as president of the U.S. in order to continue going against the 10th amendment. Very shady piece of history seldom spoke of.
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Well, my dad pointed out to me once that only the winners of wars get to write the history books… well at least the history books given to schools… Good on ya for stickin’ to the truth!
jayce Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Except that the same people who control the MSM also control who makes the books. Most textbooks are written by liberals with only their point of view in them. Just another method of brainwashing by elitists.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:57 am
Remember Obama said he was the new Lincoln.
Hologram5 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am
You hit the nail on the head, not many people know that fact. The Civil war was NOT about slavery it was all about power and money. Lincoln changed the USA from being “These United States” to “The United States”. It makes a huge difference.
roaddog Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Lincoln, when govn’r, built 265 gallows and hanged that many native amerikahns at the same time, now who is the “racist”.
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
We never learned that in school because history is written by the winners.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:59 am
No it was about fighting the south, that was restoring America to England.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:36 am
kayhla, states were sovereign nation-states until the civil war and the 14th…
July 24th, 2009 at 10:43 am
What, you want to go to the Federal Authoritarian Court system for states rights? This is laughable! The only way to claim states rights is to pass the Amendment and enforce it with your states people, through their National Guard and the people who will assert their rights!
July 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Sunray, slavery would have ended without war. It was a battle for state’s rights. It diminished. And there is never a ‘good’ reason for martial law. The civil war did not bring about women’s suffrage either. All your other complaints are just your own point of view but DC doesn’t know what my state needs, which is why my governor did not want to apply for the stupid stimulus. Gun laws are not constitutional period! To think that states in today’s world would act as they did 200 yrs ago and not grow with the rest of society is false… THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO TRAMPLE THE CONSTITUTION AND ENFORCE MARTIAL LAW!!!!!
Parker Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Thankx for pushing the truth Red
July 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Obama picked Sotomayer because there are millions of illegal Mexicans in the country, which could swing the vote in favour of Obama come 2012 if he legalises them — as he said he would
Those immigrants could then join the army, and I’ll tell you: they all love Sotomayer’s comments about latinos being the superior race, and white people being scum. They will join the army and enforce martial law with pride.
deathbyrevolt Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Superior race refered to as Mexicans. You only have to see what they produce to see that is not remotely true. You only need look at Mexico and look the United States and see the difference. Mexicans mostly do not support education because they are to busy having children they cannot support. If they believed in education they would get educated. At least go get a high school diploma. 60 Percent cannot even get through 9th grade. I think part of the reason why they have babies so early is they have a fat gene issue. Most Mexican woman blow up(get real fat) by mid to late 20’s. When you are a fat woman you are not very attractive to men. So they have children early before they become to fat to get the guy they want. Then there is the Mexican Machoism that tell them you are more of a man if you have the most children. Talk about primitive beliefs.
Katherine Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
They pop out babies to collect additional welfare babies – you get paid per head you know. Come to California and visit a Walmart and see all the 12, 13, 14 year olds with babies in carriages, pregnant bellies ready to pop out another one. I’ve seen two or three of these “Latinas” accompanied by men that look by age to be the father of these girls probably pimping them out to get pregnant and the stupid State of California doles out nice big checks for each bambino! Disgusting! Then all the state bureaucrats in this agency and that are sucking off the taxpayer, too, doling out benefits to these criminals. And with their cushy little bureaucrat job if you make it to retirement (sometimes around age 50) you get to suck off the system for the rest of your life off the poor slob private sector self-employed or wage earning schmuck! And people think California can recover? California is finished. Only a revolution will restore it to sanity.
keenobserver Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
disinfo robot
keenobserver Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Anon is a disinfo robot
gordy three horses Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
VIVA LA RASSA!! DEATH YO GRINGOS!
Shanghai Spike Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
DREAM ON, CACA FUEGO
Go on and play soccer so
you don’t feel the worms tickle
your ass.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
thank you anon – racism in america isn’t only black and white (and that goes both ways too)
July 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Is this a staged fight?
Are states rights proponents intentionally losing?
4w578i Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:57 am
What are the big mouths’ records on Constitutional issues?
I have a feeling that I wouldn’t feel at liberty within their states, and the supposed secessionists were partly to blame.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:46 am
good point.
Shanghai Spike Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Seems like they’re losing on purpose, doesn’t it?
Many of these “sovereignty resolutions” are just
to placate people, because they have NO TEETH.
The politicians know that. But the sheeple hear
that “Our state has declared sovereignty.”
BIG DEAL! The NWO doesn’t give a rats ass
how many states “declare”, SO LONG AS
NOBODY REALLY DOES ANYTHING…
(like actual secession or raising their own
citizen militia)
July 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
The Feds have no Authority since they are serving an international group of bankers, and not the soverign citizens of this country. They are doing to the American people exactly what they did to the Native American tribes.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
The National Guard will be subject to Federal control. A real state militia (ooooooh) is what is needed. One that is within the authority of states constitutions and cannot be federalized. One that arms and trains its citizens and subjects them to fines if they DO NOT train to defend the state. GOOD LUCK!
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
My state has a militia, not sure how well practiced they are LOL But there is pres directive no. 51 that supposedly is going to usurp any local law and military and enforce martial law; however, if you piss enough people off… LOL
Some people are wanting to form safety committees like before the rev war…
Hologram5 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am
The national guard is already under Fed Control, look at one of good ole GW’s John Warner Defense Auth Act which gives the president power to take over the National Guard and declare martial law when the states give them too much grief. It also overrides the posse comitatus act Section 1076. It basically gives the POTUS unlimited power. This will be hard to beat. It will take ALL of the men in each state to take arms and protect their state.
Hologram5 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Oops, sorry, in the John warner defense auth act section 1076
deathbyrevolt Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Yes I cannot wait till these crooks take it to far and we get enough like me more than willing to start taking these scum out. If I only had about 100 snipers we could head to Washington DC and start taking these puppets out. We would also need a ground crew to rush the congressional building and the White House. It is coming. Once they screw over enough people they will come out with guns in hand ready to go.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Correct me if I’m mistaken…( I want to know if this is true or not),
A Declaration of Peace was never signed and therefore a state of martial law still exist’s in the US(llc.)?
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Lincoln was supposedly going to remove federal jurisdiction and help the states reclaim sovereignty but he was assassinated before that was done.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 2:04 am
That’s true about, there was no peace treaty but a statement or declaration, that hostility has ceased. we are under martial rule, not law. Admiralty Maritime jurisdiction.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Im not an American, but does’nt the constitution come into play here at all?
http://collective-evolution.co.....u-vaccine/
Inject this! Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:45 am
It does…. but nobody is following it any longer.
In fact, the Federal Government has no jurisdiction at all, except in a 10 square mile radius of Washington D.C. and on federal land and enclaves.
The feds have no legal authority to operate as they do. They just do…. and nobody stops them.
Slapster Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Aptly said. But have you noticed when it comes to something they want they apply the constitution. Like with the 2nd ammendment being for either sports or for federal only. And yet it does not state anything like that in the constitutional 2nd ammendment.
Inject this! Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Good point! I DID notice that!!!
When it serves them, they bring up the Constitution. When it doesn’t, they bring up some hoakey bill or some federal law to get their way. Spoiled little brats.
The real problem is, most people think power and authority is as follows:
1. Federal Govt
2. State Govt
3. County Govt.
4. City Govt
5. The people.
When in fact this list is totally backwards.
Slapster Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Exactly what I have been saying for years now. People I know in my area do not believe this. And so true as to the federal government has been overstepping their boundaries for enforcement of what they want. People need to see that none of those agencies where actually formed in the United States. They were in fact formed in washington D.C. A.K.A. district of columbia. Which means they have very limited authority in actuality. But due to fear most people let them enforce where they should not be. They can only do it under limited circumstances but practice all circumstances. Which in effect makes them law breakers. Hmmm..sounds similar to the DHS standards for their definition of a terrorist. Say can we put them on the possible terrorist list too?? But I for some reason think they are exempt from this no matter what behavior they display.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
So thats your excuse to let our corrupted fed government continue?
I see you make these post every day… Are you suggesting that nothing needs to change in our fed government? If thats what you are saying?…you are either really fucking stupid, or work for the government.
satan@satan.satan Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Don’t worry about it! 1/3 of your friends are with me now.
god@god.god Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
LOL…
I have no need for friends. So you must be thinking of someone else.
I know the deal… you freak.
YAHWEH ELOHIM Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Ahhh, BUT THAT OTHER 2/3!
The 2/3 who KNOW I AM FINALLY YOUR MASTER
THOSE are the ones who will beat your sorry ass RAGGED,
Scratch!
Toecutter Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Behind me Satan. Hahahahaha. Even my best friends dont like me. I aint here to make friends, how am I doing? Hahahahaha.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
WOW…this Peaceful Revolution seems to be working well…WTF PEOPLE
July 24th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Well guess what asshole, the Constitution trumps your fed gov, you piece of scum!
Slapster Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Yes it does.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Why do you assume there is superior intellect among federal employees? Do you not think that these issues would have worked themselves out by now without federal intervention?
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Those who cannot make it in the private sector, or who have criminal ambitions, gravitate to government positions, wherein they are promoted to their highest level of incompetence, a la the “Peter Principle”.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Read your history Lincoln changed his mind at the last minute to make the civil war about slavery. Abortion is murder period, there is now way that a sane person can wrap their brain around the issue to think that it is not!! We don’t legalize murder because it will happen anyways your logic about abortion makes absolutely no sense. As for the bigotry and issues about slavery I agree with you that they may very well still be an issue today without the civil war and the FED’s. The real issue is the powers behind the scenes have always started racism to divide and conquer. It is unfortunate that we lost our states rights because people were too stupid and sold out for ideologies that where obviously evil. The lesson is that you really do reap what you sow, and because of that our country is where it is today. It is sad because we have never experienced what the constitution has to offer.
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am
You got it agnostic man! Bravo!
July 24th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Even if the fed has done some good in the past… its no reason to allow them to continue with the corruption.
keenobserver Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
SUNRAY BAKER is only saying all that because he lives in a state which rightfully so won’t allow him and his bum chum to tie the knot
MAD DOG Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
CIVIL RIGHTS DIDNT EVOLVE OUT OF THE CIVIL WAR DUMBASS.
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
KEENOBSERVER LOL!!!!
Yes sir, Lord Buckwheat, GROOM THAT STOOL Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
THERE WERE NO TRUE SOVEREIGN STATES AFTER
THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION.
Any slavery for minorities you see now
MUST BE BLAMED ENTIRELY UPON TYRANNICAL
FEDERAL GOV’T
July 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am
The supreme court is becoming more irrelivant as time goes on. Unconstitutional is unconstitutional, you don’t need a law degree to figure that one out. Line their ducks up and lets go have a duck shoot:)
July 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Sunray will make a nice FEMA camp resident, maybe first in line. How about just using your name Spaceship Starbreaker Sunstreak? This article is about this specific issue.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Sunray, go back to watching CNN and drinking your kool-aid okay… you’re absolutely right… I’m a backwards southern ignorant *itch and you are a better person than i… just don’t complain when the Nat Guard bursts through your door to drag you and your family off to camps and you can’t defend yourself because of gun control laws….
July 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
So basically the author waits until the end of the article to question whether the letters are even authentic? Not sure they are even valid letters? It would be nice if author Remington would verify his information BEFORE he prints it. This is how dis-information (something this website supposedly resists) gets out into the public. Nice try guys….
July 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am
What we are considering is the fact that all those things you mentioned
including slavery could and would have been dealt with the same as
they were in England, BY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
There was already a huge abolitionist movement in the U.S. that was
gaining ground every year. Planters realized, (Jeff Davis, who became
President of the Confederacy being a prime example) that you get
more work out of FREE PEOPLE WITH A PERSONAL STAKE IN PRODUCTION,
so share-cropping and land ownership by blacks was already underway.
If you continue to believe the false indoctrination promoted by Gov’t
education center, (public school) text-books the truth will elude you
forever. Their plan is to keep Americans brainwashed into believing “every
good positive change HAS to come from gov’t”. This couldn’t be further
from the truth. African-Americans were really starting to progress back
in the 1950s at the start of the Civil Rights Movement.
But the advent of Johnson’s “Great Society” simply made sure that, by
giving black people just enough to eke out a living on, they could keep
them slaves to the gov’t, force them to live in filthy rabbit-warrens and
with affirmative action make certain that black people would NEVER be
allowed TO RISE ON THE STRENGTH OF THEIR OWN MERITS.
“And you shall KNOW THE TRUTH, and THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.”
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Thank you!
Parker Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Charlie Foxtrot Adm.
True, true…every word true! Thank you.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Anonymous troll == obvious troll.
PLEASE Don’t feed the trolls.
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Your absolutely right twohands! I digress now
Charlie Foxtrot Adm. Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
My God its really getting deep in here now.
So much so I just put on my hip-waders
to even get near this thread.
My family came to America in 1663 and
settled in Jamestown, VA. NOT ONE of
my people EVER HURT A SINGLE INDIAN
OR KEPT ANY HUMAN BEING IN SLAVERY.
They immediately learned and SPOKE
ONLY ENGLISH, and WORKED FOR THE
COMMON GOOD OF THE NEW NATION.
They didn’t come here and expect the
Virginia colony to SPEAK GERMAN,
GIVE THEM FREE FOOD AND MEDICAL
CARE, OR SUPPORT A MULTITUDE OF
CHILDREN. Comparing illegal Mexican
aliens to early European settlers who
came and BUILT AMERICA is ABSOLUTELY MORONIC.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 2:51 am
I have you one upped, my family came to the Americas on both sides in the 1530″s raped and pillaged the Indians owned slave’s, fought and killed Indians and filthy Britt’s, and any one else that interfere with our family liberty, taken lands, bought lands and was on both sides of the civil war, freed slaves, some of our family were bums some were rich, some criminal, some saints. And our family has fought in almost every war, until now, I have no shame in my game. And of course we spoke English, because England is were we are from.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am
SUNRAY
Do you think our government is corrupted?
July 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am
The Empire Strikes Back…
So the only thing we’re missing is A New Hope (no, Obama doesn’t count: he’s hopeless) and we also need a Jedi to return. Maybe Ron Paul will run in 2012. That would be a new hope and a return all at once.
Maybe the NWO is the Phantom Menace, Hillary is Revenge of the Sith and maybe Americorps will be Attack of the Clones. Sorry, once I got started it all just kinda fell into place.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:27 am
It is a Big Idea…Death to NWO.
Begining of the big FALL….SOON!
July 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Ah… so people born unable to talk are not to practice freedom of speech?
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:50 am
they practice freedom of sign.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Chuck Norris does not believe in homolove…he stands with God.
Son of Norris Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Chuck Norris also does not believe in the right to unethical practices…except to kill which he openly practices by staring or roundhousing.
jayce Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Sunray, it was a joke…a bad one, but nonetheless.
Kissinger's Bed Pan Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Chuck Norris loves on gays
with both hands, both feet
and an axe handle.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
That wasn’t us, it was our ancestors, and me, being only third generation on this soil had NOTHING to do with that. My family came from E Germany so we have our own ghosts to deal with.
jayce Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
One side of my family came from France, and the other from Germany.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I told you about threats! Threats will not be tolerated! You will be the losers in the long run! Captain Clinton Morgan!
July 24th, 2009 at 11:41 am
The BATF is just carrying out its legal, but unlawful/immoral activites (yes there is a difference) on behalf of the British Crown that has always owned America through its franchise money cartel called the Federal Reserve. Yes, the slaves (the so called states, the U. S. Citizens, etc., that are “legal fictions” are restless but ignorance seems to be the eternal condition of Americans.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am
truth be told
July 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Alex has nothing to do with my paranoia… HISTORY DOES!
July 24th, 2009 at 11:48 am
So the states seceed from the union, and tell the BATFE to go to hell, and member of that organization who is found in said named states post secession is immediately arrested, tried for conspiracy to undercut and sabotage a sovereign nation’s ability to exist (via restricting guns, the means by which a soveriegn free state secures itself) and hanged for said named crime and make it a VERRY public display. Throw the gauntlet back in the fed’s filthy face I say.
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David Stratton Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I’m all for secession and the establishment of a dual federalist republic in my state once it secedes. If Wisconsin refuses to secede, I’ll move to a state that has the pills to do it happily enough. However, I will point out that Congress uses something called the 13,000:1 ratio, which means that for every person that calls in to voice an opinion, they assume that 12,999 of their constituents were too lazy to be bothered with calling.
While these folks are certainly freemasons and interested in crushing freedom, they have to stay elected in order to do so, so their “prime directive,” if you will, is to get re-elected. It doesn’t take very many people calling to complain to milk that 13,000:1 ratio. Figure out how many people are in your senator/representatives constituency and then divide by 13,000. That’s how many people you need to get to call in and complain. Then start a site with a counter that lets people leave a comment confirming that they have called or e-mailed (don’t bother with letters, they get screened for anthrax and never end up getting delivered half the time).
To give you a feel for how effective this can be IF YOU ORGANIZE IT, let’s say your congressman has a constituency of 1,000,000 people. 1,000,000 / 13,000 is approximately 77 people. If you can find just 77 people in your entire district that feel the same way you do and get them to call, you’ve got some major change. Heck, even if you only find 40, that’s a majority due to the 13,000:1 ratio.
I don’t think that isolated efforts will have any effect on Congress. I DO think that organized, group efforts that produce obvious majority opinions will. It’s up to you guys what you do.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:57 am
the batf raids the states the governor sends the state police and sheriffs, to gaffle them all up.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:48 am
so what was the problem again?
July 24th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Until the eugenicists decide you and your family don’t deserve to live.. prior to gun control, citizens helped cops by keeping crime down to start with…
Just go back to watching whatever news you watch CNN, FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc, etc, etc, etc…
And despite how idealist you think you are… thinking that every gun owner and every Christian is a terrorist, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken…
I have nothing left to say to you. If you do not agree with the news on Alex’s site then why are you wasting your time here. You are not going to convince anyone here that you are right. You do not understand the constitution or history so go on ahead and feel protected when you are tasted over a speeding ticket, go on ahead and feel safe eating genetically altered and rationed food, go on ahead… i don’t care about what happens to you, i care about what happens to me and my family.
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am
excuse my typos… I meant tased for a speeding ticket LOL
Red Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 11:55 am
please excuse my tyops… i meant tased over a speeding ticket… fingers can’t keep up with my thoughts…
July 24th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Right…sort of. The Constitution can be altered via an amendment. NOT BY FEDERAL LAWS!!!!!!!!
or by assholes with guns on their hips and badges on their chests.
Slapster Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Right but even then the new ammendments can not contradict any of the previous ammendments.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
I was being sarcastic obviously – freedom of speech is not the ability to speak.. the freedom of speech is the freedom to speak what you want without worry of being shot, hung, or persecuted by the government… duh… and why would someone unable to speak with a voice box need to buy a digital voice box, you gonna force them? maybe they don’t want to… THAT IS THEIR RIGHT
July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Star Wars movies are NWO hiding in plain sight… don’t fall for it…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
LEASE DON’T GIVE UP THE FIGHT.
KEEP SPREADING THE MESSAGE ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. The cat is out of the bag. The media whores weren’t even ashamed to lie outrightly that certification of live birth is actually a birth certificate.
EXPOSE THE MEDIA FOR WHAT IT IS.
I am black and i don’t care if an african-american is in office. He is a fraud. Just imagine if we can take him down, many traitors in his campaign and the DNC will go to jail and it’s even a good chance to take the country back with the rise of a third party.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
civil war one north vs. south civil war two 50 states vs. one district
July 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
sheriffs and state police and armed citizen meet them at the state line and say no,to them ,,at gun point and tell them, we will arrest them,, and they should be held on treason, charges,,if they fire on us,, then we shoot back with relly nice weapons,,and we dont miss,,,,,,i have had it,with these crimminals,and theres a lot of military guys saying,, there going with the people,,and will arrest,and shoot back at these crimminals,,they have had it too..
July 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
if obama was a good leader and “the men behind the curtain” were good people then they would simply say “sure, you states can do what you want”. however they don’t seem to say that. federal law cannot trump state law. politically, the only thing that makes me smile is the thought of washington d.c. being vaporized so we don’t have to deal with this anymore. then we could move forward with good, common, new leaders
sickntired Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
I hope your fantasy includes a Bilderberg meeting at the Watergate Hotel and a meeting of Intl bankers at the gay bath house Barry had built next to Lincoln’s bedroom…right at the moment of detonation…
July 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Ok first time I saw Sotomayor get nominated, CNBC had two people argue why she is qualified/unqualified. This was about 2 months ago, the same day she got nominated, the guy against her nomination said she has ruled as a judge often based on INTERNATIONAL LAW!!!!
Can Alex or his crew dig some of that up. Why is these anti-American scum allowed to sneak in into the supreme court without any of this being mentioned. She follows INTERNATIONAL LAW not US law.
This is insane!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I like the way you said, yet….Is this what your waiting for before you do something???
July 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
COP!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
the answer to 1984 is 1776
July 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
It’s me or does anyone find it odd that Infowars hasn’t commented on the Gates/Obama/Cambridge fiasco yet? Is it another media distraction like I don’t know.. Michael Jackson? Or did Obama FINALLY do something right and spoke out against the Police State for a change.. just wondering.
Slapster Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
No it is just a political gain for Obama. He knows he has lost a lot of support and he is trying to superficially trying to gain approval back through a racism issue. If he was really speaking out against the police he would be on the case of where those three kids got tasered and a 4th threatened with death and sodomy. And the fact that Jefferson county is backing up it’s officers for doing that to children and calling it “they acted appropriately.” he would of hopped on that one first not the one with the racist issue. So I guess this means child abuse is okay with Obama.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
WET BACK WHO JUMPED THE FENCE AND CONDEMS US FOR BEING HERE.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Oh how sad all of those Lincoln comments are. Lincoln was shot and killed because he gave the power to the people! How do you ask? He printed Debt-Free Currency=Greenbacks. That is how and why the “North” won the union. He wouldnt take 25-35% debt loans from the Rothschilds. I come to this site to read how the people are waking up…. Man is it a slow going… Sunray? You ask for a debate? Well I have posted on yer posts and get nothing back. Cherry pick the easy ones and avoid me…
RJB Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
While it is true that Lincoln fought against the European bankers who were behind starting and financing both sides of the Civil War,
No government or politician EVER gave power to the people!
In America, at least, the government DERIVES its delegated power FROM the people. It has never had any power of its own to give to anyone.
Those who believe that government has ever empowered anyone are the poorest possible students of history, and of the founding and principles of the U.S.A.
While Lincoln did indeed oppose the bankers, or at least appeared to do so, he did however violate the constitution in many other ways, especially concerning states rights and sovereignty, and the strict constitutional limitations of federal jurisdiction.
Several constitutional amendments, including the 14th Amendment, were never lawfully ratified, because the states were either at war or under military occupation. You cannot possibly achieve a lawful super majority of the states necessary to pass and ratify a constitutional amendment, if so many of the states do not have freely functioning and democratically elected representatives to cast their votes. As such, no constitutional amendment passed under conditions of federal occupation and martial law can be said to be lawfully ratified.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 2:06 am
True.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
hey red ,,dont let the gov psycops boy rattle you ,,there scared,,and should be,,for there treason,,god bless you red,,and god bless all my patriot brothers,,its getting close boys
July 24th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
He isnt scaring me! I dont scare bear! He tells me on an almost daily basis what noone else is telling me! God Bless AJ… And even if he is a so called “Agent of Disinfo” he has woken up so many its kinda a moot point! Riddle me this… Why has Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, and others switched to being so called Liberatarian? Because the go with the winds of change. Liberty will not go down without a fight! There pathetic attempt to co-op the liberty movement is not going unnoticed.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
The people of several european nations would probably also reclaim their sovereignty if they had the opportunity but there has never been a popular vote on this issue, and I don’t know if any member state’s government respects its people enough to take them out of this quagmire.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
Guy Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
To Arms That is it the war has started,and the big get Black Professor Who BOBAMA has Backed up(The Home Invasion deal ) the beginning of The reason why Marshall Law will be Executed my Bros.. Remember Rodney king Full Blown CHP and LAPD And when Bush Senior Sent in Reserve Troops USMC and NAT ARMY Guard into LA County Marshall Law My Friends!
If You Listen To Michael Savage at All Get Ready to Lock And Load!!! the “Oath I took never Ended!! when I Was in The Military…………………….America will Stand..
July 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I think we would have seen these rights issued to women, and african americans etc. Think about it some states would not have slavery (ie. the north) some states would let women vote and grant the rights you speak of. What are all the oppressive states going to do when 80% of their women and 80% of the slave force move to more freedom loving states? They will either parish in economic turmoil or higher free men to work. They will either suffer mass population reduction from lack of child producing marriage or allow women rights. The point is when people see freedom somewhere else they tend to migrate to it because people innately love freedom. When a state suffers heavy losses due to its lack of freedoms it must, if it wants to survive, also offer the same freedoms as the other states. So, I don’t think that we would still have slavery or oppression based on gender.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Keep the woman bare feat and pregnant, it was a happier place for men then when woman new her place. they were good maids, that’s why they called them maidens right. They were to busy to vote, “talk”, they had to scrub the floors and do the ironing and feed and educate a dozen kids. Those were the good old days. I know what do’s it have to do with state rights and guns? every thing.
"ren Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
pfft!
Kissinger's Bed Pan Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
There goes that Humpty Dumpty gov’t indoctrination center,
(public school) child-brainwashing syndrome again.
RE-LEARN HISTORY, YOU WILL BE AMAZED at how little
TRUTH you actually know.
My great-great Grandma, who lived from 1824 to 1902, OWNED
3 businesses, stock in several railroads, three city apartment
buildings, 2 farms and at least 15 houses. Her husband was a
quiet man, an artist and writer who made a modest income,
but she had the talent for business. The trust she set up before
her death still helped her great-grandkids get through college.
“BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT”? “MAIDS”? Grow a spine and
START LEARNING REAL HISTORY!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I agree that Alex has his own agenda that none of his followers are aware of, but I also think that you are very comfortable in your current position in this system to really care or want it to change.
I think you are in for a rude awakening… Things are more fucked then you are willing to admit to yourself.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Blacks should only vote if they own PROPERTY, just like whites should only vote if they own PROPERTY and women should be silent and NOT VOTE because they often times, more than not, cancel out Mens votes. Why do you think the founding fathers made male property owners the only class allowed to vote? Sorry if it offends, take it up with Thom. Jefferson et.al.
Katherine Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I completely agree with you. If we could go back to only property owners voting (men and women) and totally elimate general suffrage so the non working scum can’t bleed the economy dry we would be well on the way to restoring our republic.
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
My God, Katherine,
What a profoundly revealing statement!
Even Mark Twain warned Americans over 100 years ago that:
“If the day ever comes when idle layabouts are allowed to
vote themselves money out of the public treasury, America
will cease to exist.”
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 2:24 am
You forgot to add, you had to have 500 free hold (debt free)acres of land to vote or hold office. not just having a small piece of land qulified you to vote or hold office.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I went for many years without a gun permit. Now I have a permit, and I own several guns, and have joined the NRA. The NRA is the most powerful lobby in washington. The yearly membership is well worth the results they produce. They are fierce fighters for Constitutional Rights, and you should be too. Your bitching here will not do anything. Join the NRA and stop this group of fucking criminals who want your rights trampled!! Taking your gun rights away is one of their priority strategies. Fight them!!!
Also, I recommend that when you get a gun, try to get one that does not have to be registered, whether it be a handgun or longgun. If it’s not registered, they cannot take it away.
Toecutter Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Join the GOA Gun Owners of America far better organization to protect your gun rights. But lastly YOU are the one that will protect your gun rights.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I went for many years without a gun permit. Now I have a permit, and I own several guns, and have joined the NRA. The NRA is the most powerful lobby in washington. The yearly membership is well worth the results they produce. They are fierce fighters for Constitutional Rights, and you should be too. Your bitching here will not do anything. Join the NRA and stop this group of fucking criminals who want your rights trampled!! Taking your gun rights away is one of their priority strategies. Fight them!!!
Also, I recommend that when you get a gun, try to get one that does not have to be registered, whether it be a handgun or longgun. If it’s not registered, they cannot take it away.
Inject this! Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
“Also, I recommend that when you get a gun, try to get one that does not have to be registered, whether it be a handgun or long gun. If it’s not registered, they cannot take it away.”
Of course they can. You gave yourself up by getting a permit. Now they have your name, address, signature, picture, SS#, fingerprints etc. So does your local police, state police, FBI and all the other agencies they share information with.
If they want to come after your guns, they’re going to go after registered guns and permit holders first. Didn’t quite think that one through did ya!?
July 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
wait a minute… do i have this right? the ILLEGAL gvt is telling the states that sovereignty is illegal? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! i wonder how much weed, EXACTLY, they smoked before they came up with that theory. PLEASE GOOGLE DICK ACT 1902 and read the amendment 11654, there’s even a letter from a supreme court justice explaining WHY AND HOW they 2nd amendment WILL NEVER BE TAKEN FROM WE THE PEOPLE. the guys in office in 1902 KNEW this was gonna happen.
roaddog Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
“ren—I googled that. Good usefull information. But I have to ask, how did you find that? I mean, thats a new one on me.
Inject this! Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I have a few problems in the wording in that Act. But I won’t get into that now.
From what I can see, the Patriot Act, John Warner Defense Authorization Bill, Veterans Disarmament Act, to name a few, pretty much takes care of the Dick Act 0f 1902 as well as the Constitution. It isn’t legal but they’re doing it. And not a lot of people have the funds to take the fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court (which I believe has been infiltrated by Communists/Globalists).
July 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
This is nothing more than the old “left vs. right” false front. Create two seemingly opposing factions and use them to deceive people into joining one camp or the other, both of which support the same agenda. Fact One: Yes, those on the “left” want to disarm you. Fact Two: so do the people on the “right,” but they pretend to be the opposite. They support, and draw support from groups like the NRA, Gun Owners of America, etc, all of which support the same agenda: the eradication of gun rights, while making the pretense of defending them.
As I have pointed out here, again and again, the ONLY way to restore the Second Amendment’s protections of our existing right to self-defense is to REPEAL all existing gun laws and never pass any more of them. Period. Anyone who says they are “supporting” the Second Amendment, but who is advocating new laws that only add to the hundreds already violating the Second Amendment, is a traitor, at worst and an unwitting dupe, at best. The useful idiots who join the NRA don’t even know they are supporting the very opposite of what they think they are supporting. The NRA has consistently backed gun laws while pretending to oppose a few, now and then, for show. But, somehow, these laws usually wind up getting passed, anyway. Organizations like Gun Owners of America pretend to be “true” gun rights organizations, and issue occasional “attacks” against the NRA, accusing it of the same thing that GOA is doing. Both have consistently backed concealed carry permits, which are totally unnecessary (you already have the right to carry any type of weapon, any time, anywhere and in any way you wish without the government’s permission to do so) and only turn your existing right into a government-granted privilege that you must pay for and which can be easily removed. Besides that, conceal carry permits are a means of registering every gun owner so a database of them can be kept and shared by all law enforcement agencies. Yet, millions believe concealed carry permits are some sort of “victory for the Second Amendment,” when in fact, they another nail in the coffin of the Second Amendment.
The short answer to this is: don’t support EITHER “side” in this conflict, because BOTH are after the same thing. Instead, demand that they campaign for the immediate repeal of all gun laws. Then you’ll see who these people REALLY are.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
not true… Anything built by unions are 100% citizens! Roads, sky scrapers,… most of the major cities are built by citizens not aliens.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Sunray……….I’m reading “The Coming of the Third Reich” by Richard Evans. The book is so close to reading current headlines it isn’t funny at all! The rise of Hitler’s Germany was a 30 year process…Post wwI through the social, economic and political trauma of the 20’s and 30’s…to the fascist deathcamps of the 40’s.
Alex and his warnings are valid and not at all unrealistic. If history proves to be our teacher, we can expect to see the fall of the Republic and fascist deathcamps in the next ten years.
Thank you Alex!
July 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Don’t litigate it. Fucking do it. Make the in state guns, let the Bastards, Assholes, Turds, Fucksticks, Eatshits show up and try some shit, then ARREST THEM. CALL OUT THE Fucking National Guard if necessary, let THEM try and get out of fucking jail, let THEM worry about “legislating it” Place the onous and burden squarely on their despotic, tyrannical, treasonous little shoulders.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Sunray……….What an idiotic statement………….you aren’t even slightly acquainted with history OR interested in truth. Please go away!
Kissinger's Bed Pan Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
This Sunray person must have gotten what little
knowledge of history he or she has
FROM A MEXICAN COMIC BOOK
July 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Sunray………..What a damn tool you are!!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I don’t get very well the concept here, so I believe people may disagree with it.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
If anyone belives Presidant Oboma is a frend to gun owners take a look at this. President Oboma is nothing more than a wicked wormwood anti constitution boob. He is not the frend of the noble ones. Wicked is his intent wicked is his work. Vote the crap head out.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
What kind of “brain washed” propaganda garbage is that? You forgot to say. “Go Green.”
Give me a break.
You getting paid for that? What $8.50-$12.00?
1% – Super Freak Elite
99% – Slaves.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Hey sunray
It sounds to me like you have gotten really good at licking boot. You may not give a damn about the constitution, but I do. If you think that you will be safe from your own government when the shit hits the fan, then you had better think again. The goons will come for us and they will come for you too. So just keep telling yourself that we are the ones that you need to be afraid of. It won’t be long before you find yourself behind barbed wire.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Get Larry Sinclair’s Book. (a real page turner) Larry is ex-lover to B.O. This will be a best seller!
THIRDPARTY Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I READ ABOUT THAT,SEEMS TO BE A 50/50 SHOT OF TRUTH IN THAT.ALSO OBAMA BEING H.KISSINGER S BOY BACK IN THE DAY,WAS STATED THAT HE THOUGHT BARNEY FRANKS GAY LOVE WHORE HOUSE WAS A COOL THING?WHAT’S UP WITH THAT.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 2:31 am
Yea its called moral turpitude, Its said they were slurping each others love snot and smoking crack and each others poles, according to Larry Sinclair’s unverified allegations, even though the should be tested for streach marks around their mouths for evidence.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
One issue/question that is VERY important, and relevant to this and most govt. power/usurpation issues, is this — IS THE COUNTRY NOW IN AN OFFICIALLY DECLARED “STATE OF EMERGENCY”?
I have read and been told that yes, it is, AT LEAST since 9/11/01.
If so, THIS TOTALLY CHANGES THE JURISDICTION, GUYS!
Under an emergency, CIVIL LAW IS SUSPENDED, SET ASIDE, and the government is run AS A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP UNDER THE PRESIDENT AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF ALL THE FORCES IN THE FIELD.
This means THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN SET ASIDE, IS NOT NOW OPERATIVE/IN EFFECT: DOES NOT APPLY.
Under these circs, the pres. has the right to make law by uttering it or by ‘edict’, essentially – just like a monarch.
Most of us, including most of those holding public office, do not know this, or do not understanding the above effects, as the info is deemed to have the potential to DISTURB THE PUBLIC PEACE and therefore is doled out on a NEED TO KNOW basis.
THIRDPARTY Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
THE ONLY PERSON TO SET A STATE OF EMERGENCY IS THE GOV OF THAT STATE.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
umm, in order to pass a constitutional amendment you need 3/4 of congress to vote in favor of one. The things they are doing do not fall under any constitutional amendment, they are simply ignoring the constitution and doing what they want, because no one is stopping them.
Inject this! Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I believe it’s 2/3 of Congress or ratified by the States (also 2/3).
Hang on a minute and I’ll consult my Terrorist Handbook (pocket Constitution)
In the words of Bill Maher…… “In this country, you couldn’t get 80% of the people off their couches to vote for tits even if they were giving away free samples”
( I was paraphrasing from memory and probably shouldn’t have used quotes.)
He was referring to France’s turnout for their presidential election vs. American’s piss poor turnout for EVERY election.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Its a rigged game who do you chose twittle dee or twittle dumb. any of them have the morals of a new jersy used car salesman.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
If the Feds decide to ignore state soverignty, secession will be the next step. States in good faith are exercising their 10th amendment rights. If the Feds decide to ignore their rights, I will not be surprised to see some states start to talk about secession in the future, and I will fully support it.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
How about when the Feds in Federal court declare that the Feds can do anything the Feds want to do, the people in those states fight back physically, with the approval of said state? The tree has to be refreshed from time to time. Just sayin.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
If the states want their rights back, Then they need to STOP sending money to Washington. If they collect a tax within their state then they need to keep that money there in state and not fund the federal slave masters. Everyone should never send any money to any federal office for any reason. Take away their money and you take away their power.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Let us not forget that the federal government either hires or places into positions of power only those chosen traitors that will vote the way the federal government wants. This fact alone implies that the federal government will give the appearance of legality in certain venues when in fact we are witness to numerous and continuous violations of the constitution. As long as any vote against the people comes from these traitors, no ruling will make their violation of the constitution legal and binding. In fact it will fuel the aggressive action that will come forth against the governement zombies. It will no doubt ensure that all monkey puppets doing the bidding of the evil elite and against Americans and the Constitution will be dragged from their homes or offices and hung from the nearest tree or pole for their illegal actions against America. I say good riddence.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Say, Jasper, what comes after 75?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
76
July 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
That’s the spirit!
July 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
A merry heart doeth the body good like a medicine!
Q: What’s the main problem with Barack Obama jokes?
A: His followers don’t think they’re funny and everyone else doesn’t think they’re jokes.
The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
Q: Why does Barack Obama oppose the Second Amendment?
A: It stands between him and the First.
At a recent Obama speech there was a guy in the back of the hall screaming anti-American slogans and making hateful racist remarks. They turned the house lights up and it was Reverend Wright.
For a moment Obama thought he was back in church and yelled, “Can I get an amen”?
Q: What’s the difference between Rahm Emanuel and a carp?
A: One is a scum sucking bottom feeder and the other is a fish
Barack Obama: He has what it takes to take what you’ve got!
Q: What’s the difference between Greta Van Susteren and Barack Obama?
A: Greta only talks out of one side of her mouth.
Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
Q: What’s the difference between Obama’s cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
Q: What do Vanilla Ice, Eminem and Barack Obama have in common?
A: They all made careers pretending to be black men.
Q: What’s the difference between a large pizza and the typical Obama backer?
A: The pizza can feed a family of four.
Obama has ordered GM to come out with a new model called the Pelosi. It’s a convertible, but no one wants to see it with the top down.
Q: What’s the difference between Simba and Obama?
A: Simba is an African lion while Obama is a lyin’ African.
Someone recently wrote, “A joke about Obama on the Letterman show is as likely as a joke about Mohammed in a mosque
If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved? … America!
Obama’s campaign slogan “Yes we can” has become “Yes you will.”
Teddy Kennedy has taken so much flak for supporting Obama’s spending that he recently said, “I have half a mind to get out of politics.”
Q: What’s brown and in your pocket?
A: Obama’s hand.
dr love 1978 Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
funny , funny, funny! thanks I needed some humor today.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
What part of 2nd Amendment: “shall not be infringed” do they not understand?
WTF!!!
Turner78X Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Like Bush said, Emily, the constitution’s just a damn piece of paper. It’s like pointing to an order of protection on some psycho hell-bent on doing you harm. It doesn’t mean nothing to someone who disrespects life and privacy and wants to control or hurt you. The only guarantees against tyranny is awareness, knowledge, diligence, , a truly educated (as opposed to indoctrinated) public, unity, at least a sense of independence and a gun! Did I miss anything?
gordy three horses Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
IF THE DOG IS RABBID, KILL IT.
July 24th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
If we removed Obama, sure they’d just put another one of their guys in, but that is NO excuse for letting Obama blatantly skirt the Constitution. The guy provided a fake birth certificate (see for yourself here: http://moniquemonicat.wordpres.....rtificate/
and what are we doing? Griping about Obama taking our guns away.
But this is one thing we can change. We CAN impeach this buffoon. And it WOULD show them that we are fighting back. Ignoring this out of apathy just lets them laugh at us all the harder since they know they slid this latest one through without him even being qualified to be president. Why give them a belly laugh?
If we cannot even get Obama out, which would be relatively easy seeing as he was not born on American soil, if he was he would’ve submitted a real birth certificate, then why are we fighting the NWO at all?
July 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Start growing back yard gardens, stock up on amo and gold! It’s coming baby.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
You’re a good follower.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
SUNRAY, KATRINA,MARTIAL LAW,SHOTS FIRED BY FED AGENTS,NO WATER FOR 5 DAYS,THIS WAS PRACTICE.A RETARDED PERSON COULD HAVE WALKED TO NY TO HELP THESE FOLKS BEFORE 5 DAY’S.FEMA WAS UNDER NEW TESTING SYSTEM,THEY MADE IT LOOK LIKE THEY FAILED,IN FACT THIS WAS ON PURPOSE.NEW CAMP TO BE BUILD OPENLY,WITH THE PRESENCE OF HELPING IN THE FUTURE.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
TRUTH IS ALWAYS SCARY.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Georgia needs to do this! Actually every state needs to do this and let DC do what they want in their own stupid state!
July 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
What would you do if you knew the future? I posted this a year ago. I’ve told plenty of people their futures, but only some would listen.
Obama is for NWO
« on: February 14, 2008, 09:38:09 AM »
Presidential frontrunner Barack Obama is pushing a bill that will lead to the implementation of a UN global tax, costing the U.S. at least $845 billion dollars over thirteen years in the name of fighting worldwide poverty, as well as banning “small arms and light weapons. Fighting poverty is a cover up …. What he’s really up to is taking our guns away, plus having a carbon tax and many, many other Unamerican things. He’s not for the people, he’s for NWO. The Kenndies need to take back everything they said about this man – and fast! My people, we are along and my God help us all …. 7-24-09 present day. At the time of this post I didn’t know about the kenndies involement with Vam.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
MY LORD,MY GOD,IS THERE NO MERCY FOR THE WIDOWS SON.A PHRASE TO BE HELPFUL WHEN IN DISTRESS. ANY FREEMASONS WILL STAND DOWN,A JUDGE WILL DELIBERATE WITH BOTH PARTIES IN COURT FOR EXAMPLE AND MAKE A DEAL.THEY WILL THINK YOU ARE A MEMBER OR AT LEAST A FIRST DEGREE MASON.SOME BREAKS WILL BE AFFORDED.I KNEW ONE PERSON THAT DID THAT A CIVIL LEVEL,THE JUDGE CALLED BOTH PARTIES IN,MADE A GOOD DEAL FOR BOTH,AND BECAME NON EMOTIONAL IN THE RULING,HE WAS PISSED AT MY FRIEND BEFORE HE HAD MADE THAT STATEMENT.TO BE HONEST MY FRIEND WAS SORT OF IN THE WRONG,AND THAT’S WHY THE JUDGE SEEMED PISSED AT FIRST.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I think you are wrong. What is your source for that statement/assertion that only the states have power to declare a state of emergency?
Have you seen this? – Senate War and Emergency Powers Report – REPORT ON THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY IN THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA…
Also Joel Skousen confirmed (on talk radio) that we are and long have been under emergency rule… but the govt. correctly reasons the people might not like that and so they keep it from us.
War & Emergency Powers Report *
… Emergency Powers Report … REPORT ON THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Researched and written by: Gene Schroder … Senate Report, in the section entitled, “Emergency …
http://www.usa-the-republic.co.....ers_3.html
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BIG BLACK Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
ONLY A GOV CAN DECLARE STATE OF EMERGENCY,UNTIL THE FALSE ATTACTS ON 9-11.IN 2005 KATRINA… THAT IS WHY THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT STEP IN,THEY NEVER GOT THE OF FROM THAT SLUT AT THE TIME.AT THAT POINT,THEY NEEDED INTERVENTION.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
lets look at WHY americans want guns so much – it’s breeding. the only intent is to shoot someone thats the bottom line. sooo backwards, stupid culture. sure the gun isn’t the most productive invention. GRAB YOUR GUNS. GET READY TO SHOOT OUT AGAINST THE NWO . . . real cute.
BIG BLACK Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
GO BACK TO CHINA THEN,ZIPPER HEAD.
July 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Kim American has a good idea! Boycott and Bankrupt these nasty corporations and globalists companies! If someone has the time and resources to find and oust these corporations, and globalist companies. Then hit them where it hurts (there bank acounts)! I could get behind a movement like that. I am already boycotting walmart. Walmart used to sell all american made products. Now it is nearly impossible to find American made products there!
Viva Liberty
July 24th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
http://911essentials.com says no one trusts these people or their impostor leader.
Turn off your TV, get your children out of their demented government schools and just say no to the predictive Hollywood/ Madison Ave programming all around you.
July 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
CHECK OUT THE FREEMAN PERSPECTIVE.HE IS BIG TIME INTO LOGO’S OF CORPS.
July 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@EVERYONE GET ALEXS DVDS into the hands of EVERY police officer AND military personel in your LOCAL AREA!!!! SEND the links to (The Obama Deception AND Endgame) TO EVERYONE on you EMAIL and CONTACT LISTS!!! DO***********IT*************NOW******************AND*****************BE******************PART***************OF******************THE****************SOLUTION!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
YDTK
What the F is Wrong with you ??? !!!!!!!!!!
How DARE you try and ensnare your fellow beings.
We see that wire that runs from your website to NSA databases.
The veils rising, bud.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
The states have no business being in the marriage business in the first place. Marriage is historically a religious institution, engaged in for religious reasons. Only in recent times has marriage become more of a business venture for the entitlement to certain government benefits.
Marriage, as a civil contract is one thing, but marriage based on one’s religious beliefs are another. Everyone is indeed able to marry who they please, and the government is free to recognize it, or not, for the sake of dispensing certain benefits, such as tax breaks.
crazycanuck Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
…AND A BUREAUCRACY IS BORN, so know religious/moral beliefs get to play second fiddle to the legislators. Is it not those same GOV’T LEGAL INSTITUTES that give ‘licenses’ to ministers so that a male and female can get a ‘license’ to marry. The next thing to happen is that you won’t be able to allow two dogs to mate with each other unless you have a ‘license’. Tax breaks, tax breaks, and more tax breaks all those ‘licenses’ are really for is to create more BUREAUCRACY. What is the official dictionary definition of BUREAUCRACY – rule by offices … where do the people fit in here?
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July 24th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
When it comes to opposing our rights, the Obama administration is no different than any other administration we’ve had. They’ve ALL opposed our rights.
gordy three horses Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
EVERY ONE TALKS ABOUT ARE RIGHTS BUT NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THE RTSPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH THE RIGHTS
July 24th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
This is because we are not bound by our laws but by maritime law which is one of the biggest manipulations of power that the NWO has implemented.
July 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
the answer to 2009 is 1776
July 24th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Yep. With Obama’s approval rating sinking like an anchor, it’s a sure-shot they’ll stage a false-flag or instigate a war. If that doesn’t work and they can no longer use the puppet to sneak in their agendas, they’ll pull out the ‘birth card’ on him to get rid of him, and then Biden steps in to finish where Obama left off. At least that’s my view.
gordy three horses Reply:
July 24th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
NO, THEY WILL GET SOME NUT JOB KKKER TO BLOW HIS HEAD OFF. FIRST THEY SHOULD START WITH POLOZI THEN BIDEN, GEE THEN WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE.
TX NATION- live free, use ammo Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
DONT FORGET SOTOMAYOR!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I’m not a bible thumper you pig! Bible burner maybe.Guess what,you’re surrounded.You fuck’n pig .
July 24th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Crissy Hines sang with the PRETENDERS, Jackson Brown sang about the PRETENDER, and Barry Sotoro is the PRETENDER
July 24th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
it breaks my heart how this country is is so blind to all the evils in this world, and how our very own government is trying to build a nation of slaves. we were once a free nation and i say it’s getting to the point soon where we the American people are gonna have to put our foot down. we don’t work for them they work for us and god dammit i want my America back!
July 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
The states should counter the BATF by issuing an “in state” FFL.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
If you want to see a judge run out of the courtroom, just introduce the judges oath of office officially on the record. They don’t like that shit because now the judge knows he’s been HAD. These judges are the worst damned snakes on earth. It’s time to inform the people about their evil doings against WE THE PEOPLE. If you’ve ever had the opportunity to sit in a courtroom, you’ll see exactly how those bastards violate their oath of office and stomp on our RIGHTS with no reservations whatsoever. SPREAD THE WORD folks. Inform others about jury nullification. It’s time we take our country back-one piece at a time. We CAN do it. We hold the power. Screw these people in black robes. Don’t be intimidated. Stand your ground.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
right on im native american and i do not use 20 dollar bills because of whose face is on it. ALL I WANT IN THIS CREATION IS A FAMILY AND SOME LAND IN THE CHEROKEE NATION, RING A BELL? YOU KNOW MANIFEST DESTINY, TRAIL OF TEARS. FREEDOM FOR SOME, SLAVERY AND DEATH FOR THE REST.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
THIS DINK MUST BE SOME KIND OF QUEER HOME LAND SECURITY STOOGE OR F.B.I.
July 24th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
In order to do that, get the judges oath on record, I believe you need to take your own court reporter. bielieve you need to get a certified copy of it. I believe that you need to know how to question him on his jurisdiction. The sixth ammendment says in criminal cases he must tell you the cause and nature of the charge.Is it a criminal or civil court? Under which jurisdiction on the Constutition is his court,common law or admiralty? If you can get him to say neither then you bring up his oath.Then if he says statuatory you ask where you can find the published rules of criminal proceedure for that jurisdiction. Whithout a reporter of your own and some witnesses he will probably throw you in jail. Heck, he still might.These guys are operating under color of law. That makes them outlaws.Do not expect justice unless you are a brother mason and know their secret signs
July 24th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
the second civil war is coming….
July 24th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Davies, Obama is only about 6% African.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Everyone and there brother needs to run for a political office starting at local,county,state,and federal level time for the revolution unseen. A peaceful revolution is a effective one, and they will not hesitate to 9-11 our bums when those morons go violent and ruin it for us.
July 24th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
It was the states that created the Federal Government. The Constitution,s Bill Of Rights even says in the Ninth and Tenth amendments that the states pretty much have power reserved to themselves so long as they do not violate other rights listed in the bill. This horrible and shameless overreach that we,ve seen from Bushes 1 and 2, Clinton, and now Obama is what has caused the states to pass these resolutions. The globalists don,t care if it triggers a civil war ; they will continue their push for control.
July 24th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
i wonder if there is a shoot out with a S.W.A.T team would you try to get your neighbors to help
you and even if you did do you think they would if they did’int know nothing
July 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
The constitution is what gave us the government. How ya likin’ it so far?
July 24th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
if 2 amendment is overruled/ all states should declare indepence from the corrupt government
July 24th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Strange how an illegal alien communist can be elected president and start liquidating your country for Anglo/Nazi Imperialist banker eugenesis.
Hell’s Bells
July 24th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Your site looks like it’s goverment run. We here are not that stupid. You better pick ah side. Cause when the shit goes down (an it will) don’t think we won’t shoot.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:49 am
I want to disagree on something.
“No government or politician EVER gave power to the people!”
I believe that Lincoln, McFadden, JFK, RFK and Ron Paul have all fought for our rights. 4 out of 5 of them were assassinated for it.
Ass Ranger Barry Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Lincoln is up in the air. Prior to Bush 43, it’s debatable whether any other president violated the Constitution more than Lincoln. Sad but true.
July 25th, 2009 at 2:53 am
Your right if you can’t beat them, join them. lay down G.I. lay down. coward.
July 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am
then move to california, commy
July 25th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Sotomayor she’s a hot looking babe, put her picture up next to Janet Reno.
IAMBRAINWASHED Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Yay, I can’t wait for Chupacabra (Sotomayor) to get into office so she can take my guns.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
thats funny, she can come over and clean my house anytime.
Toecutter Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Yeah, then staple it to the backstop at the range.
July 25th, 2009 at 6:39 am
I seem to be lost, can anyone direct me to Drudgereport.com?
July 25th, 2009 at 7:32 am
go ahead osamba puppet try and take ”our” god given right to bear arms away. lol just wait what happens…states will band together and your fear tactics wont work….our fore fathers knew this day would come…that is why they created a militia to over throw a future run away government.
and when they call martial law using the media as a fear tool by saying…virus,chemtraildrought,lackof food,hyperinflation depression what ever dice there going to roll….and when the u.n steps in to take us to the ‘’safe fema camps”
come and take it. you evil rich no conscience population reduction monsters.
your deep underground bunkers where you will hide…..thermight will open that key and you will all be hung for world treason.
damn you elite for taking it this far…….the patriots and minute men are here and trained and under the grid…just waiting……. there are good generals in control of bases that are ”woken up” keeping there mouth shut…and will stand down to there orders and will side with the constitution the ”oath” that includes to protect foreign and domestic the same i took. patriots we will have technology too. There are good men in power that have a conscience.
so what will it be…are you in the patriot army or marine or a militia minute men….these men will be on our side.
dont fear prepare.
i dont care where you are from…if you would like to get ahold of me first give me a shout at my email and we will go from there.
aerial23@yahoo.com
yeah right Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am
PORTABLE PLASMA WILL CUT ANY DOOR
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
HHO gas torch will do it quicker.
Toecutter Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Them doors are waaaay thick. Up to three feet maybe more. But thermate, waterjet, or old fashion burning bar will cut it. Then again we could just cover it up with concrete and have a BBQ.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:09 am
STOP PAYING TAXES THATS THE WAY TO DEFEAT THEM NONVIOLENTLY. dont buy shit dont drive, dont use banks, dont invest in wall street. grow a garden and live in a tent.
if even 25% of america did this the government would be so weak
July 25th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Whatt? You are all against Buttcrack Obama i cant beleive it
July 25th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Well Well, this is a tuff one. I blame both. We werent there. So no one really knows what happened. Once the cop asked for the ID to make sure he lived there. And it showed the cop should have left. from that point no futher invest should have been authorized. 2nd did they inform
the professor that the house was broken into? I believe not. if you noticed that didnt come out tell the people started leaning on the cops. than that came out. 3rd the prof shud have been a little more cooperative. But what gets me. if there was a break in at house house, and after cop found out that he did live there. they told him to come to the porch, than they arrested him. they couldnt go in do to no crime was committed, so they couldnt have intered the house. without a search warrent. I blame both for being stupid. dont like uptight people or cops. so im looking at this in a equal footing. and O’bama should have kept his EARS out of this. I mean his mouth.
amprivateer Reply:
July 25th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
But the professor got all chicken necked and went tribal on the cops, as the story go’s. //you can take them out of the jungle and put them in a suit, but in momments notice they can and will revert back to the jungle.
July 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
. I completely agree with everything you write . I am so greatfull for the Federal government in my life and the lives of all Americans. We Know that without an over reaching federal Govt. We would be awash in Gay black unmarried fruitjob slaves across state lines, abortion smuggling nut jobs on a mission to pass voting rights for citizens animals spirits and goblins and non citizens. It is obvious you are highly educated. Let me guess 4 year degree from UPI. with your Masters from ABC, CNN, CNBC , MSNBC. You are Intellectually feeble. I once said ,it is better to blog nothing and have the blogosphere think you dont exist, than to write something and have them think that you dont think.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:29 am
The sinners prayer is denying your rightousness and trusting in Christs Rightousness for your salvation. With baptism signifying the death of yourself and being alive to Christ.
HJB
July 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” 2nd Amendment, United States Constitution.
I don’t see anything hard to understand there.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Bottom line is the federal regime is trying to get a revolution started so they will have the excuse to implement martial law and really go for it and it will happen. Get ready folks because it looks like the blood is about to start flowing.
It is too bad that even most so called government puppets like the ATF, FBI, FBA and all the rest are just as stupid and ignorant to the reality of what is really going on here, but like in Germany, they will just be following orders.
July 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
infowars= 25% news you will not likely hear anywhere else, 25% speculation, 50% made up propaganda.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
That how they make money in Africa scams.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
http://www.hallindsey.com/videos/?vid=62
July 25th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
obama is a foreign saboteur and usurper through the new world order. the states have to militarily move on DC shut down federal reserves in the states, round up the illuminati who are on known register for states officials to use to arrest them with. i cannot tell civilians and military in and outside the feds enough this needs to be done before a horrible civil war happens and hundreds of millions are murdered chemically, shot outright or starved to death. this is not exaggeration or embellishment this is going to happen to peoples families no one is exempt.
July 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
YDTK —
You said, “Members will be required to enter and participate in group conversation hosted in our chatroom where important issues will be discussed.”
And nearly in the same breath you stated, “Talking about crap isn’t doing anything.”
WELL GOLLEE. SIGN ME UP. I CAN’T WAIT TO JOIN THE SCHIZOPHRENIC REVOLUTIONARY HOTLINE. WHERE’S THE DOTTED LINE?
A true patriot is ALWAYS a little paranoid.
Jesse Ventura/Ron Paul/Mike Gravel 2012
July 25th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
The Supreme Court, all nine members, are suppose to protect the Constitution of the United States. Taking our guns away is not protecting us at all but the NWO. We can not let this happen. Who is in charge when the Supreme Court is not doing their job to protect us but used as a vehicle to hand us over to an international body such as the UN. We are sick of it!
July 25th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
You’re getting your “FACTS” from “latin- american papers”?!
Then while you’re at it why not explain to us all why they
celebrate “Cinco De Mayo”. The vast majority of Mexicans today,
GET THIS, actually believe that the 5th of May commemorates
the day that an outnumbered group of “brave latinos” armed
only with pitchforks and shovels WIPED OUT the entire United
States Army in battle. YES, THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT!
Mexico has more natural resources than we do, almost ZERO
costs from immigration, military and social programs, has a
better climate and abundant cheap labor. THE ONLY REASON
Mexico is still 3rd World is because their men WON’T STAND
UP AND BUILD THEIR NATION. They would rather giggle like
little girls, play soccer and LET THEIR CAPOS RULE.
I don’t get my info from Latino papers. I LIVE WITH
MEXICAN PEOPLE EVERY DAY. They aren’t bad people, but
their SHEER IGNORANCE is absolutely astounding!
July 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
THE ONE SINGLE REASON they have not
“stormed through our neighborhoods, slaughtered
all of us and raped our daughters”
is that THEY KNOW WE WILL RESIST
WITH DEADLY FORCE.
If the American people EVER GIVE UP THEIR GUNS,
the scenario you described WILL HAPPEN IN A HEARTBEAT.
Why do you think the thugs WANT OUR GUNS SO BAD?
July 25th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
She looks like a fat pig. I bet she’s really an alien. Check her pussy to see if it has teeth.
July 25th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Yeah SURE. “The constitution was designed to be altered constantly”.
I’m sure MS Sotomayor IS ORGASMIC OVER THAT,
and that’s why Bush called it “Just a G*ddamned piece of paper”.
It is only carefully designed with alterations in mind
IF FULLY TWO-THIRDS OF THE NATION VOTES ON IT
Many “amendments” we have been laboring under for years
ARE ILLEGAL BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER RATIFIED.
The Founders didn’t design our Constitution to be changed
as easy as you change your socks.
ITS A SOLID, VENERABLE DOCUMENT FIT FOR THE AGES
July 25th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Sunray
Wrong wrong wrong. Check the rolls at the Iron workers, millwright and carpenters locals. Check the riggers (if you know what one is) and pipe fitters unions, brick layers. Look at who ran the machinery, mills, drills, lathes , who the designers were that built the airplanes, missiles, ships, and the Empire State building. You should quit running your mouth. You probably never actually had a callous or a blister on your hand (aside from pleasuring your boy friend). You know that the infrastructure and this nation were built mostly by white people. This society is mostly white. I hope that doesnt offend you if it does it’s reality so boo hoo. Yes there were legal immigrants (most were white) Irish, German Dutch,European stock, and they contributed as right they should and were assimilated into society. But dont give me that stupid lie that America was built on the backs of the mexicans. I come from 14 generations of American quaker stock dirt farmers and cowboys. Never owned a slave or a mexican. My favorite uncle was American born, Navajo/Mexican cowboy. My cousin was killed on a motorcycle by a mexican illegal with no license no insurance and a free pass to escape back to messico to avoid prosecution. Where were you then??? A member of my family has fought in each war this nation has had since the revolution (sad but true) and it was to protect your right to say what you have said but I dont have to like it. I aint here to make friends. How am I doing???
July 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Sunray;
Unless you live in the land of fruits nuts and flakes, California. Then most of the people are illegals. Of course they build the roads, mow your lawn, tend your horses, baby sit, clean your house, rob you at the gas station and the party store, steal your car radio and tires or car. But you can love them if you want.
July 25th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
left-wing and right-wing are the same thing… you can stuff the lot, I WANT MY FREEDOM
July 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Sunray;
“1ST OFF:
Mexicans aren’t uneducated because they want to be. They grow up in an impoverished, disenfranchised nation that has very little decent educational programs to offer them. This is not THEIR fault. They keep Americans pretty ignorant here too, even though we SCREAM for better education…Your an example of bad education.”
Does this mean you think that I, my children, family, nation should pay to drag these pathetic sould up out of their cesspole of shit when they dont have the moxy, the gut , the courage to fight for their own country. No they go for the easy target MY COUNTRY. They invade in silent armies of illegals crossing to bear their children in my country which bears the cost of their offspring to add to the debt for me and my children.
You Sunray; “Your an example of bad education.”you are an incredibly ignorant turd. Dumber than a bag of hair.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
My BIG problem with the NRA is …
That it is supposed to be a special interest group that PROTECTS our 2nd Amend. rights.
However, did you see how this organization VOTED in 2008?
Ron Paul got an ‘A’ rating on gun rights..
John McCain go an ‘F’ rating.
The NRA voted for McCain, because of the NRA did not endorse OTHER positions Ron Paul had?
Why is the NRA concerned with “other positions”? It’s INTERESTS are GUN RIGHTS and THAT’S IT.
They should of endorsed Ron Paul in line with their interest and told their subscribers that the other issues are for them to decide.
The NRA is bought and paid for in this writers opinion.
July 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Like the 51% forcing their agenda on the 49%. Only were are not protected by the hate crimes bill.
July 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
We all know that the courts are packed like sardines.
July 25th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Turner78X and gordy three horses, You are on to something concerning Joe “I Am A Zionist” Biden. He is lined up to take Obama’s place, much like LBJ took JFK’s place. This slithering snake is now threatening Russia. I have to say this; it remains for only two entities on the entire planet to fight the Zionist NWO….Russia and the American Patriots. China is just waiting to see what stands after all of this.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
okay obama gets a visa to come to the US from indonesia to go harvard and he becomes US president whats going on? this would make him a foreign saboteur and usurper making a mockery out of the constitution and the US laughing his head off at us. he wasnt born ,he never grew here but rather in indonesian schools and knows nothing of our cultue and history to assimilate and become part of the fabric of our culture and constitutionally he should be escorted to the sidewalk to the next prison for attempted sabotage and spying on the american people. no one should obey anything this guy says.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
The Federal Government is NOT GOD! They have NO AUTHORITY if they try to circumvent the Constitution in any way! For over 200 years, private citizens have had the right to keep and bear arms, and in order for the United States to remain a truly free country, this right must remain our right forever!
July 25th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
I used to live in the UK, And when they ban them there. High levels of gun crimes all over the UK was on the increase they are even Smuggling over guns, as anyone knows lots of money in firearms. You can’t even protect your own home or family over there, honest People in countrys like UK are already fucked by the NWO. Seen it happen in UK, I hope it does not happen here DEATH TO THE NWO.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
SUNRAY: PROBABLY THE FIRST THING I CAN ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON. HOLY SHITZ!
July 25th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Bring it O’bongo. Ooooh but boy. Bring the warrant and your birth certificate too!!!
July 26th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Global Currency
Russia’s President announces that there will be a world Currency In the Future ! How Credit default swaps played a role in causing the economic crisis to create a pretext for a Centralized power including Global Currency
Please email to 10 people…..
http://posmedprod.webs.com/worldcentralbank.htm
July 26th, 2009 at 2:52 am
One would think America (the 2/3rds of you) that beleive 911 was an inside job , would actually be prepared for more of the same? The NWO is only just getting started, and your freedoms are next.
July 26th, 2009 at 4:03 am
Please go to http://patriotmoneybomb.com and check out the fundraiser we’re having this week for JTCoyoté. They raided his house and now greedy bankers are trying to steal it! JT’s an expert and activist in the state sovereignty movement and has been raided by the government on false charges! Any donation is appreciated, all we’re asking is that you give what you’re willing to part with.
July 26th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Tomorrow, July 25, 2009, FEMA is conducting and practicing martial law exercises (gun confiscation, checkpoints, etc.) in Region Vl which includes, Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Mississippi and they just added California! From orders from the White House, foreign troops are invited to participate! Is this the beginning of martial law?
Prescott Steve Reply:
July 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Yuo mean tomorrow July 27th, 2009?
July 26th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Poorly written article.
Learn grammer and proper sentence structure before you start blogging.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Most of the folks on infowars are already anti-NWO or shills. In addition to here, please go to popular websites like marketwatch.com and make your anti-NWO comments.
Thanks! Jeff
July 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Come and take it!
July 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
…To the Barricades!
July 26th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Nullification time!!!!
July 26th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Guys the birth certificate aside; we must consider all the people in power who are letting this happen. Even if Obama was ousted, the system would still be in place. We must stop the dereliction of every Americans duty! The traitors in power must be stopped.
This is about state sovereignty. The feds will continue to infringe on our rights until we stop this! Sotomayor will not stop until every American is under the Fed thumb. We need people. Americans to stand up to them and show Law that the feds have violated our rights.
We need people like JTCoyote who stands up and gets things done. He has been instrumental to getting laws passed in the individual states to confirm our 10th Amendment rights. The system is attacking him now! If we do not rally around for our Americans, like JT, we will all fail!
Go here to see what all JT has done and See what we can do to help him and to see to carry on within our own states. http://patriotmoneybomb.com/
August 1st, 2009 at 12:11 am
Please make copies of the first three pages of below document and give to local police. What’s good is it is compiled by ‘Police Against the New World Order’. Try to approach more seasoned officers who don’t look like s.s. http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/vk2k.shtml