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Obama, Congress consider “procedural tactic” to ram through climate change bill
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IAN TALLEY
The Wall Street Journal
March 11, 2009
WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders, including U.S. President Barack Obama’s top budget official, are considering a procedural tactic that could give them the power to ram a climate-change and energy bill through Congress.
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The tactic is being discussed because of the dramatic impact of the bill: Collection of “climate revenues” from a proposed cap-and-trade system could represent a major source of future revenue for the federal government.
Democratic leaders are considering a process in the Senate known as “budget reconciliation,” meant to fine-tune the government’s expenditures and revenue later in the year, which needs only 51 votes compared with the standard 60 needed for contentious legislation.
Some leaders see the alternative as an option of last resort. Yet even having this option under consideration is raising the ire of many lawmakers and reveals how serious Mr. Obama is about passing a bill that axes greenhouse-gas emissions.
“Reconciliation is not the first place we would go, but we’re at the beginning of the discussion and aren’t going to take anything off the table at this point,” Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag said Tuesday after a budget hearing in the Capitol.
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March 11th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.
jones Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
QUIT RELIGION UNITE RESIST
jones Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Chemtrailsand haarp.googleititis fucking rainingbariuminwhistlerbc
Mark Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 4:08 am
LOL jones, I could not have said it better.
Max Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 11:10 am
CHANGE my ass! This is more of the same crooked shit but intensified.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Our rogue government is illligitimate and out of control.
We need to stand against this tyrany!
Social Viability Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Don’t stand up to them.
Just stop cooperating with them.
The only reason they are in power is because we grant them their power. The only reason they rule us is because we go along with them.
1. Stop Watching TV. Virtually all of TV is a mindwashing campaign to keep you mentally addled and incapable of creating a society not under their control.
2. Stop Voting. The politicians cannot claim any legitimate authority if we stop running out to the polls whenever they tell us we should.
3. Stop Using Their Money. Switch to an alternative currency where possible. If the Fed cannot exploit you through usury and inflation – and if the govn cannot extract taxation from you, their system will dissolve through lack of funding.
You will have to stand up for yourself and protect yourself and your family when they start frothing at the mouth over the demise of their system. But that is simply a necessary task in the pursuit of liberty and happiness.
Don’t fight the system:
Replace it
http://socialviability.com/
jones Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Stop buying fuel for one week.Everybody,do it.
Take all your money out of the banks,NOW
YES YOU CAN
March 11th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
They can start to ‘curtail greenhouse gases’ by strangling themselves. That would be a nice solution to their global warming scam, wouldn’t it?
Chad and Some of His Kin Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Thank you, you’re close, very close to our own thoughts. When these folks say they “arent going to take anything off the table” that means at least two things: 1. eventually the table will collapse and 2. the turd-filled punchbowl on that same table is emittiing large quantities of CO2 AND is in dire need of its own “cap and trade” system, quick! (trade for, let’s see here, maybe two of my grander farts? oops, make that three, I couldn’t ‘cap’ that last one off). One possible solution for this little problem would be for these folks to ALL take one last drink from that stinking punchbowl they’ve all been swilling from, and then all take a large breath of air IN, and then HOLD IT! Don’t dare let that breath of air OUT, now, folks, because it’s packed full of CO2! Then, everyone will know for sure that the inmates have taken control of the asylum. “Cap and trade system”, my left hairy butt-cheek! These fools are all wearing their dunce-CAPS, now who or what can we TRADE them for?
March 11th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“Procedural tactic” = treasonous subterfuge
March 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Jones, please launch the Obama Deception now! I want to get that out to everyone now!
March 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I’d like to “ram” something sharp & painful up the asshole of all these treasonous bastards — ARRGGHHH
reality Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
LOL hahahaha this is great! Keep up the show! But I still say you guys aren’t as good as late 90s X-Files … Now that was a show!
jones Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
YES YOU CAN
March 11th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I agree. we cannot wait any longer to show the world the deception. i urge the early release.
reality Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
YES!! I can’t wait either! Show us th show!!!
It won’t be an X-File but Alex hun .. you are better than General Hospital when Luke and Laura were caught in the weather machine that made it winter all the time hahahahaha that was great. But yer better Alex than that hon *xoxo i love yer show
jones Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Obomba is so popular,that even Mickael Jackson has been seen hanging around suntanning studio
March 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
i wonder who removes comments that have substance but yet “they”allow drivel to remain?
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I know what you mean , especially when things get hot and you’re approaching some kind
of critical mass !!! I wonder who’s behind it ?!?
jones Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
ciamossadscum
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 4:33 am
I hear you man , I’d like to know more details if someone knew !!!
March 11th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
The Climate scam is there way to chip everybody. Jesus told us to be on the guard for Deception.
I just put up a song I hope helps wake people up thanks to audio from Alex Jones “criminals”
Check it out on my myspace page!
ps got permission from Alex at Bilderberg 2008
March 11th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Real People, Real Talk, Real Solutions!
http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG
March 11th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Al Gore rubbing his grubby little hands,
MaxPower Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
He’s rubbing something alright
Al Gore Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Oh I sure am, baby…ooooooh…yeah…that’s it…
March 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Alex doesn’t care about you he only cares about the contents of your wallet.
No One Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Cares about you. You are meaningless. Plus your wallet is empty. Worthless.
Gman Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 7:49 am
well nuts to him, i’m downloading the prisonplanetTV version right now off of demonoid
Master Chief Reply:
March 16th, 2009 at 11:42 am
So then why is he always telling people to make and pass out copies?
March 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I bet these carbon taxes aregoing to include a tax for exhaling. Do we humans exhale CO2? Carbon emissions reduction, I wonder if that includes humans? Less of us exhaling, then……..
March 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Could you waste 1 million to save 1 billion?
March 11th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.
George Orwell
March 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
ok here is the deal… your first thought of action is to make copies and give them out to every liberal democrat obama lover right?
ok i think i learned something here… i’m gonna tell you right now that that is a big waste of time…
you see in order to teach someone they have to be willing to learn.
remember the past 8 years? trying to get republicans to watch alex jones films? and how most of them probably told you they don’t have time for liberal lies and propaganda?
you see we should have been trying to waek up the liberals and democrats instead!
they would have watched every damn one of our films and then some!
but we left them alone or didn’t press on them much because they were out there bitching about bush after they watched keith olberman and got all pissed off.
you see we should have been working on them and then obama would have never worked!
let us not repeat this mistake as our time is even shorter now!
we should work on all the obama hating republicans now! and really work on them!
not just have little conversations with them bashing and bitching about obama and thinking ok let’s move on to the guy that likes obama!
because if we do that… in 4-8 years we’ll be fighting with republicans again as they worship their god given savior! so this is how you do it! you get these people to watch all the documentaries and films you can find for them to watch now! they will watch them! because the liberal democrats will not listen! they will not be bothered! you and i are just crazy right wingers to them!
work on waking the shit and i mean the shit out of the republicans now!
get them to watch the obama deception more than once! watch it with them! and come 4-8 years hopefully they will be wise enough to not fall for the bullshit all over again!
think about this! we need to work smarter not just harder!
reality Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
lol you guys are hilarious
I stll say not as good as the X-Files in the late ninties though. But keep trying!
Meaning Less Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I bet you were not as fat and stupid back then either. Bet you’re looking forward to next year when you will be even more fat and more stupid. Hard to imagine being fatter I bet.
You are not even noticeable. Poor guy.
reality Reply:
March 11th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
..giggles.. I spose you think he’s better than a x-file. stupid girl
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 2:20 am
Dude…that was MF’n funny!!! The Long in the Tooth Quoteint is applicable!!! robin out!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
March 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul, and anyone with a positive bank account understand basic economics. The more you spend, the less you have. And if you spend too much, one day the collector will come to get what’s due. Yeah, there’s a conspiracy because most are dumb enough to follow. And yeah, there’s a conspiracy because they educate us to make us dumb enough to follow. And yeah, there’s a conspiracy because they own the outlets to mass media and education, which are supposed to make us more aware. But when do those smart enough (despite years of b.s.), say “Enough!” I can teach, too? When do we start to build our own networks? I thank Alex Jones for being among the first. How will we move on from here to the second?
March 11th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
hahahahahaha … ok … This is a GGRREEAATT !!! SHOW!!! but really you guys are hilarious … not quite as good as the X-Files in the late ninties though … You’ve got a ways to go
so don’t stop .. you are very entertaining ..smiles..
March 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
What’s it Gonna Take?!
http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG
March 11th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Such nice smily people , I say give’ em everythin’ they want !!! What’s this in the mail … let’s see
Oh…it’s just the monthly bill from Dr. Yoo for my Altzeimer treatment …What a nice smily guy
he’s too !!! Keep it up team !!!
March 11th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Article 1, section 5 of the US Consitution specifically allows each house of Congress to make its own rules. At any time they wish they can drop the requirement called cloture where there must be at least 60 Senators in favor of a bill to block filibustering. The Republicans never had the courage to do this when they were in power; they were too scared of the media who called it “going nuclear”. So it isn’t treasonous at all. The problem is that the majority of Americans are so stupid that they like electing these kinds of idiots. We deserve exactly what we are getting.
March 11th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Looks like Lord Buckwheat is putting on the big green rubber…… bend over America! If they can tax a cow fart, then breathing tax isn’t far behind……
If they really cared about “global warming”, then why did they whack Stan Mayer and sweep it under the rug?
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com 100% clean emissions. Hmmmmmm?
March 11th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Dear Americans:
Please turn off your t.v. Stop watching bullshit like Dancing With the Stars, American Idol, Survivor, etc. We have become too lazy and comfortable. The government becomes more powerful because we put too much trust in them to protect us. Stay informed. Study as many websites as you can and listen to your peers. The morning paper is irrelevant. What is important is that you get all the facts you can and make your own decision.
Radical action is not necessary, yet. If more people know the facts, then a lot can be avoided. We are in control, we have always been, and always will be. Knowledge is power only if you understand it.
March 12th, 2009 at 12:43 am
a solder) Sign the papers old man
old man) what do the papers say?
a solder) they say we have not harmed you in any way, sign the papers
old man) I cannot sign the papers
a solder) why can you not sign the papers?
old man) because you have broken both of my hands
1960’s Cheech and Chong
cast your vote Congress and no you dont get to read it first.
March 12th, 2009 at 2:50 am
NOTICE THAT IT IS NOT OBAMA WHO IS WANTING TO DO THIS
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hillary clinton is allied with gore/reid/ and the “global warming” lobby
they are desperate—this is probably their last chance to try to get to tax the air you breathe for baphomet
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losers
March 12th, 2009 at 8:07 am
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March 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
This kind of says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs
March 12th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
We say no they do it any. think its time to take a stand people
shadowstar72 Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
sorry they do it anyway
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
March 12th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Yes , with or without vaseline !!!
March 13th, 2009 at 11:17 am
This kind of says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs