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Obama set to launch military “surge” in Afghanistan
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Barry Grey
WSWS
February 5, 2009
President Barack Obama is set to formally authorize the dispatch of 10,000 to 12,000 additional US combat troops to Afghanistan, the beginning stage of a military “surge” that will likely add 30,000 more soldiers and Marines over the next 12 to 18 months, doubling the US occupation force to 60,000. Obama’s announcement of the initial compliment of three combat brigades, to begin deploying in April, could come this week.
The first stage of the escalation is bound up with a strategic overhaul of US policy in the region that will initiate a vast expansion of military violence and increase the focus on exterminating the popular resistance to the neocolonial occupation of Afghanistan, both in Afghanistan and the neighboring regions of Pakistan.
In response to a growth of the anti-US insurgency in both Afghanistan and northwest Pakistan and an increasingly dire security situation for US and NATO troops and the US-backed puppet government in Kabul, Obama and Pentagon officials are calling for setting more “limited” objectives while warning of a “long and difficult fight” in a war that has already lasted more than seven years.
Behind the talk of limited objectives are plans to dispense with the pretense of “nation-building” and the establishment of democracy and, in Obama’s own words, engage in “more effective military action.”
As Obama’s secretary of defense, Robert Gates, told the Senate Armed Services Committee on January 27 in a statement dripping with cynicism, “This is going to be a long slog, and frankly, my view is that we need to be very careful about the nature of the goals we set for ourselves in Afghanistan. If we set ourselves the objective of creating some sort of Central Asian Valhalla over there, we will lose, because nobody in the world has that kind of time, patience and money.”
In other words, the much expanded US military force will concentrate its efforts on drowning the insurgency in blood, whatever the cost in Afghan and Pakistani lives and US troop casualties. This was already indicated when the US launched a new missile strike inside Pakistan within days of Obama’s inauguration that killed 19 Pakistani civilians.
It is further underscored by Obama’s decision to appoint as US ambassador to Kabul a former top military commander in the country, Lt. Gen. Karl W. Eikenberry, described by the New York Times as a “highly unusual choice.” Eikenberry served two stints in Afghanistan, the most recent an 18-month command tour that ended in 2007. He is known for advocating a sharp escalation of US military strikes in the border regions of Pakistan which are used by Taliban, Al Qaeda and other anti-US Islamist forces as safe havens and staging areas for strikes against US and NATO forces in Afghanistan and supply convoys crossing the Khyber Pass separating the two countries.
With Eikenberry’s expected approval by the Senate, four of the administration’s most influential voices on Afghan policy will be active or retired generals, including Gen. David Petraeus, chief of the Central Command, Gen. David McKiernan, the top US commander in Afghanistan and Gen. James L. Jones, a retired Marine Corps officer who is Obama’s national security adviser.
Some sense of what is to come can be seen in the proposal made last month by NATO’s senior military commander, Gen. John Craddock of the United States, that NATO troops shoot alleged drug traffickers without waiting for proof of any involvement with the Taliban or other insurgent forces. In a country whose main crop is opium, upon which large sections of the impoverished population depend for survival, this would amount to a license to kill Afghan civilians at will. The proposal was made in a confidential letter to Gen. Egon Ramms, a German officer who heads the NATO command center responsible for Afghanistan, and came under heavy criticism from German political circles. It was eventually scuttled by McKiernan and others, according to an exposé published last month by the online edition of Der Spiegel magazine.
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The bulk of the additional US troops are to be deployed to Afghanistan’s major opium-producing region in the south, in an effort to cut off the main source of funds for insurgent forces, and its eastern border region with Pakistan.
The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that Pentagon officials said troops will be deployed along the Helmand River Valley; along the two main highways of southern Afghanistan, which have been hit by growing numbers of roadside bombs; in two provinces outside Kabul where insurgent activity is on the rise; and along the Afghan-Pakistan border.
Asked on a Sunday news program if US troop casualties would rise, Vice President Joseph Biden replied, “I hate to say it, but yes.”
Various news outlets have reported the adoption by the Joint Chiefs of Staff of a classified report, part of the Obama administration’s review of policy in Afghanistan, that essentially calls for the military to drop efforts at reconstruction and “nation-building” and instead devote all of its resources to attempting to wipe out the Taliban and other insurgent forces and destroy Al Qaeda safe havens in Pakistan. The recommendations have reportedly been approved by Admiral Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and seen by Gates.
The new strategy means a further widening of the war into Pakistan. As the Washington Post put it on Wednesday, “Afghanistan and Pakistan are to be treated as a single theater of war and diplomacy…”
This was underscored in a speech Monday to the Reserve Officers Association by Joint Chiefs Chairman Mullen, who emphasized halting the use of Pakistan border regions as staging grounds for insurgents to mount attacks into Afghanistan. “We cannot accept that Al Qaeda leadership, which continues to plan against us every single day,” has a “safe haven in Pakistan” and “could resume one in Afghanistan,” he said.
The expanded war is to be not only more deadly, but also long. According to FOXNews.com, Gen. George Casey, chief of the Army, reportedly told Obama during a meeting at the Pentagon last week that there are no “quick fixes” in Afghanistan and the strategic review should be looking “at where the military expects to be in 10 years” in Afghanistan.
The US military escalation comes amidst a deepening crisis for the US occupation. On Monday, in a quarterly submission to Congress on conditions in Afghanistan, the Pentagon reported that “the spring and summer of 2008 saw the highest levels of violence” since the US invasion in 2001. “The Taliban regrouped after its fall from power and has coalesced into a resilient and evolving insurgency,” the report concluded.
Among the findings in the report:
* Between January and December 10, 2008, 132 US personnel in Afghanistan died as the result of hostile action, up from 82 in 2007, an increase of 60 percent.
* Attacks by Taliban insurgents increased by a third last year, assaults along the country’s major highway increased by 37 percent, and “The security situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated in several areas of the country since the last report” six months ago.
* Insurgent surface-to-air fire rose 67 percent. Car bombs and attacks in Kabul have also increased.
* A resurgent Taliban is challenging the Kabul government for control of the south and east of the country, “and increasingly in the west.”
An article in the current edition of Newsweek magazine entitled “Obama’s Vietnam” cites a report released last month by the London-based International Council on Security and Development which states that the Taliban “now holds a permanent presence in 72 percent of Afghanistan, up from 54 percent a year ago.” The report notes that insurgent forces are moving closer to Kabul and that “three of the four main highways in Kabul are now compromised by Taliban activity.”
The article cites a briefing to Democratic congressional leaders last month by Center for Strategic and International Studies analyst Anthony Cordesman, who said, “The development of Afghan security forces has been a badly managed, grossly understaffed and poorly funded mess.”
The worsening security situation for the US is despite a sharp increase in American air strikes. “In 2004, the US Air Force flew 86 strike sorties against targets in Afghanistan. By 2007, the number was up to 2,926—and that doesn’t count rocket or cannon fire from helicopters,” wrote the author, Fareed Zakaria.
The result has been a rapid rise in civilian casualties. In what is certainly a major underestimation, the United Nations reports that civilian deaths have climbed from 929 in 2006 to close to 2,000 in 2008, with civilian deaths climbing by 60 percent in 2008.
The growth of insurgent strength has forced the Afghan government to postpone scheduled presidential elections from the spring of this year to August 20. A top election official said that of the 364 districts around the country, 84 are not safe enough to hold elections.
On Tuesday, militants destroyed a bridge in northwest Pakistan that lies on the main supply route for US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, temporarily halting the shipments of food, gas and military equipment into the country. On Wednesday, insurgents torched at least ten trucks that were stranded near the Khyber Pass connecting Pakistan and Afghanistan as a result of the bridge having been wrecked. These attacks are the latest in a series of increasingly bold assaults on the route used to move 75 percent of supplies for US and NATO troops in Afghanistan.
US efforts to develop alternate supply routes through the former Central Asian Soviet republics were dealt a blow this week when the president of Kyrgyzstan said his government had decided to close the last remaining American air base in Central Asia. The base at Manas airport outside of the capital Bishkek is a key transport point for US troops into Afghanistan and a staging ground for tanker planes used to refuel American military jets. The US said it was seeking to renegotiate the terms of its lease of the base with the Kyrgyz government.
The dispute with Kyrgyzstan is indicative of rising tensions across the region, in this case between the US and Russia, which just agreed to loan the former Soviet republic $2 billion and has worked to counter US efforts to extend its military sway in the traditional Russian sphere of influence in Central Asia.
The response of the Obama administration to Washington’s deepening crisis in Afghanistan is to escalate the killing and widen the war into Pakistan, threatening a far greater military conflagration.
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February 5th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
A bigger WAR MONGER than the skull an bones bushes now a trilateral roman illuminiti foreign secret Government and a whole new puppit and another 100 yrs of war when are you people gonna wake an say no more WARS!!!!!
count Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
ditto is precocious. foreign war is good, especially when there are thousands of “gun control” homosexual “dont ask dont tell” liberal law enforcement “do you have any weapons in your car” traffic stop “civil war” police officers occupying the usa and harrassing responsible american civilians.
effectively export democracy and send more stupid social workers into the very very dangerous land of allah for opperatioin new world order.
vive le republique,
count
unohoo Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
This same message has been voiced since the 40’s and even before if the truth where known. Just to let you know . . . the peace wont come till all stand against Israeli State. When this time is at hand, some will have peace, others will have more torment. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem . . .
unohoo Reply:
February 11th, 2009 at 2:52 am
for peace info see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhEoz897qkE
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA – Hamas definition of “occupation” .
6 millions Jews and 1 million Arabs live in the state of Israel. In the “Palestinian” territories, many complain about Israeli “occupation”. But Israel is ready to give away Judea Samaria and has already given away Gaza, hoping for peace. Problem is : when a Palestinian talks about “occupation” he means Tel Aviv… Not Ramallah or Jenin. They want to destroy Israel, and Israel will not let that happen.
Never waking up Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
They aren’t people, they are sheeple, and they won’t ever wake up cause their all ignorant….SERIOUS
Good effort but only worry about yourself
February 5th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Not without that airbase in Krygistan. Your talking tripling the cost of the war without it.
The Ghost of Tom Joad Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Kyrgyzstan, I meant
frak Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Berzerkistan it am..We’ll see how Franks Air adapts his dope smuggling route..The Spice must flow..
February 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
This is all he’s been talking about. War. We must have war. The sacrifices will be huge, but you’ll be patriotic. You get nothing in return troops. Death for nothing. You’re not fighting for anybodies freedom, thats for sure. You’re fighting for a lie. If you join, just tell your families goodbye now and be done with it, cuz you ain’t coming back alive. With d.u. and all. See ya, woudn’t want to be ya.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
G.I joes the cause of the worlds problems,spreading death and destruction for the wall street bankers,dumb bastards.
GI Joe Movie Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I can’t wait to see the GI Joe movie so I can join the Army and get Destro!!!!
February 5th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
From what I heard, nato only has control over the afghan capital & nothing else. If that is indeed the case then nato is headed for defeat. Makes you want to sing ” joy to the world”.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I feel bad for Alex Jones. he tries educating all you sheeple and then gets bashed on his site…he is not making as much money as he should be and all his videos are on the internet for free to watch…if you don’t support the man for what he does you should never come on this site
GO TO HELL AMERICAN SHEEPLE AND I HOPE ALL YOU BASTARDS DIE FROM AHEART ATTACK OR A OBAMA NUKE
The Creator reads YOUR heart Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
http://www.inthenameofallah.org
and
When Paul Newman died, they said how great he was but they failed to mention he considered himself Jewish (born half-Jewish). When the woman (Helen Suzman) who helped Nelson Mandela died last week, they said how great she was but they failed to mention she was Jewish.
When Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, Martha Stewart, Randy Cunningham, Gov Edwards, Conrad Black, Senator Keating, Gov Ryan, and Gov Begoivich messed up, no one told me what religion or denomination they were — because they were not Jewish.
When Ivan Boesky or Andrew Fastow or Bernie Madoff committed fraud, almost every article mentioned they were Jewish.
A famous Einstein quote: In 1921, Albert Einstein presented a paper on his then-infant Theory of Relativity at the Sorbonne, the prestigious French university. “If I am proved correct,” he said, “the Germans will call me a German, the Swiss will call me a Swiss citizen, and the French will call me a great scientist. If relativity is proved wrong, the French will call me a Swiss, the Swiss will call me a German, and the Germans will call me a Jew.”
unohoo Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Very well said, problem is the news media tells every one under 36years old, that they are all the same. yet when I see it . . . black is still black, white is still white, yellow is still yellow and red is still red.
Noah (Jewish), the father of; Japheth (European) American), Shem (Asian), Ham (Egyptian first then African)
lastmohican Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
yes we are all descended from one of noah’s children… you fundamentalist nut sacks should really start paying more attention to God’s message and worrying less about who begat whom. a poodle a chihuahua and a shitzu are all dogs, but all quite different. maybe we should have a war over which one is best?! WHO CARES WHO IS JEWISH?!
unohoo Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Sounds like you might have the cloning principles of a Democrat. It is all about Jesus Christ and “His” return. Any thing else is irrelevant. The smoke screen may be yours, but the light at the end of the tunnel is an on coming train.
Brace yourself if you can . . .
February 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
And the sheeple keep grazing……. “what war? ah yeah we’re fighting for our freedom”… how does that make sense? “aww…cause the TeeVee told me it’s true so its gotta be!”
February 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
the “surge” in aghanistan is the work of zbigniew to further his plan of conquering the asian continent and it’s resources
February 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
It all makes sense now…
Get Mossad to bomb Mumbai and make it look like pakistan so that the US can get India to back them when it comes to attacking Pakistan…Genius
Peace
-Tek
Creator reads YOUR heart Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
yada, yada, yada tek
http://www.israelnationalnews......spx/160271
Gaza Terrorists Get New Rocket
Reported: 07:25 AM – Feb/04/09
(IsraelNN.com) The Salah a-Din Brigades terrorist group has released a video showing terrorists firing a rocket at the Eshkol region. According to the group, the rocket used is the Sijil model, one not previously used in Gaza.
Gaza terrorists have continued firing on Israeli towns despite reported attempts to reach a temporary ceasefire. Several rockets have hit the Eshkol region, and Sderot and Ashkelon have been targeted as well.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Apparently America hasn’t learned from Alexander or the Russian defeat back in the day. Also there are not enough bombs nor people to get the job done. Epic fail.
roaddog Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
thats what I was thinking too.
Kokoapelli Reply:
February 7th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Bush did Iraq to beat hiz daddy, and Obama duz Afghanistan to beat Bush.
Sheesh!
February 5th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
January: More soldiers have committed suicide than died in combat.
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/05/army.suicides/
February 5th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
I’ve read a little about the history of the British military in the 1800’s and many of the catastrophies that they fell into. Afganistan was the site of one of their disasters. One of the recurring themes is the apparent incompetence of the generals. One author wrote that you couldn’t have bungled a campaign as badly if you wanted it to fail.
This has caused me to think – what if it is the aim of the military leaders to lead our own troops into disasters? Why? Population control maybe. Do the powers-that-be really want unemployed young men getting restless in our cities and towns? No – so they’re sent to war to die “for their country.”
February 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Support the troops. They work hard to protect our freedom from the………..wait a minute.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
WE NEED THE WAR IN AFGANISAN PEOPLE AFTER ALL HOW CAN AL-C-I-AIDA MAKE MONEY FROM DRUGS OTHERWISE, OH YES THERES ALWAY SOUTH AMERICA MMM.(OBAMA NEEDS TO FILL HIS CRACK PIPE WITH PRIME TABACY)
February 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
The whole friggin country is goin broke and they are on a world conquest. Does this look like a sane leadership to the soldiers ? Are there any officers loyal to the Constitution ? If there are, you got our support !
February 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Good, send more troops. Virtually nothing is getting in, in the way of supplies. May be a devastating military defeat In Afghanistan will be the beginning of the end of these NWO bastards here at home!
February 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I gave you the chance to do the right thing…
roaddog Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
now we all have to die a horrible death, one fitting of a god to enjoy.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
This does certainly not represent change in my book, in fact it sounds like the same old shit i hated bush for.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:04 am
“Snakes and snails and puppy-dogs tails… that’s what little boys are made of..”
I think of the precious, sweet, and innocent moments of my sons as they were growing up, when they were still mine, and the priceless memories of having them in my life. And, all of the work and consistency and care that went into raising them right, and making sure that they turned out to be respectable, civil, ethical, and contributing human beings.
How DARE any psychopathic, power-tripping, dick-swinging, hidin’-in-the-closet, sniveling and whimpy PRICK decide that MY boys should go risk their own lives, or have to face the choice of “kill or be killed”—immediately wiping out and invalidating all those years that I spent trying to be a good parent. Immediately wiping out the values and lessons that I tried to instill in my boys, and that I made so many sacrifices for. Immediately turning my beautiful sons into shocked and ruined and apathetic zombies that I don’t even recognize anymore…
Who the hell are YOU to be deciding that MY sons should fight your sick and twisted and false War?!
YOU put on a uniform and go fight in Afghanistan!…. you arrogant and cowardly piece of SHIT. You would last about 5 seconds.
Obama .. (if that’s your real name..)…………….GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Kokoapelli Reply:
February 7th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Amen, Sister!
Fight on!!!
VIVA!!!
February 6th, 2009 at 12:08 am
I simply can’t understand what many of you are babbling about. Don’t you see that all the wars we fight are legitimate wars? That the U.S. is the most righteous nation on Earth? If you have any doubt about what I’m saying, just go to http://www.imdb.com and if you’ll look through the archives you’ll see that every war we’ve ever fought has only been in defense of this great nation of ours and that our cause has always been just. Plus we always win. As for our police officers, when they apprehend a suspect, that suspect is always treated with the utmost care and respect and as it turns out, that suspect is always guilty. Still don’t believe me? Then go to any episode of COPS and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Really people, why don’t you all just wake up?
Cullen MacLean Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 1:32 am
Excellent satire , Ernst.
I’m not so sure of how many others might appreciate it, but I sure do…
Thanks.
roaddog Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
good one.
spicoli Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 1:50 am
The sad thing is, I hear people make those arguments all too often.
People, not just Americans, are afraid to admit that they don’t know anything. Instead we just cling to the safety of our “reality” and reject what we do not agree with.. Even as I write my opinions, I must admit that I, too, don’t know shit. This world is beyond confusing. The only truth I claim to know is the Gospel, but even that cannot be proven. Faith is different than reason or rational (I do not apologize for my beliefs, but I apologize if anyone thinks I am spewing religious talk). I am just trying to make the point that we are all ignorant to some degree, simply because we are human. Civilizations have been built and have been destroyed because of pride. We have chased knowledge for years and years, and we always fail. Every morning I wake up, and everyday I am forced to admit to myself that I am ignorant.
With that being said, how do you draw the line between humility, and doing what you think is right? I do not support this, nor any other government, because I believe a man made system is inevitably corrupted. Man is not my authority. So, nor is man made law. Yet, for me to call somebody else ignorant is beyond hypocritical… I guess I am poorly trying say that when we approach people and attempt to open their eyes towards the atrocities of the government, we should probably try to understand that we, ourselves, do not have all the answers.
spicoli Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 2:07 am
I was referring to the sarcasm of Ernst. Which by the way, I agree with Cullen, it was excellent.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:05 am
MUST SEE PICS… GO NOW, THEN COME BACK!
http://propagandawerks.blogspot.com
February 6th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Afghan Truther Arrested Feb. 6. 2009.
A high ranking British soldier, Lt Col Owen McNally, was arrested in Afghanistan for breaking Her Majesties Official Secrets Act. i.e. telling the truth.
McNally has passed on the true death and injury rates of innocent Afghani’s being used as target practice for so-called Top Guns. Last year US and NATO jet fighters conducted over 1,000 murderous air strikes on Afghan towns and villages. These slaughter missions and thousands of similar airborne war crimes, between 2001 and 2008, are all based on the false premise that 9/11 was NOT an inside job.
McNally faces 14 years jail for having the balls to tell the truth.
http://sxolsout.110mb.com/tmac.html
msmadame Reply:
February 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I wonder what the true death and injury rates are for American troops…
February 6th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Notice the subtle language changes that these scumbags use, a “SURGE” is utilizing existing forces and focusing them in a certain direction,an ESCALATION is what they are up to (adding more troops!)
Toni Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Very good point.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am
First they ignore us … Then they ridicule us … Then they fight us … And then they lose ….
http://intwain.wordpress.com/2.....ion-first/
I think it’s time we move on to that part where they lose … don’t you?
Continental Congress 2009 … Be there!!
February 6th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Obama is real change for the Afghan people, change from less dead to more dead, way to go NWO puppet Obama, you have a warm place for yourself in hell, enjoy….
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Please visit and click on some of the GOO-GLE ads to support and fund my website, thanks!
http://www.info-warriors.com
February 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
it doesn’t matter. The believers will be raptured before it gets too bad.
roaddog Reply:
February 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
pull your head out.
msmadame Reply:
February 9th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Ah, many believed this would happen in their generation, and it did not. (Regional wars, WWI, WWIII…)
However, ministers supported by FEMA want you to believe the fantasy.
February 6th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
If America commits its forces to Afghanistan, it will be defeated there like the Soviet Union was.
msmadame Reply:
February 9th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
It will be horrific and a draft will be needed to continue to feed the meat-grinder.
History and reason means nothing to those who are hell-bent on destruction.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Well well well…. they really are that COCKY…. they really think they control the world. WELL we will see…. I don’t think they have the balls.
February 7th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Caution!! You must see this video!!! Bush makes a satanic ritual!! (this is not a joke)The video is in English, and, it is worth it!! George W. Bush makes a satanic ritual with children, troublesome!!
And this, during the attacks of the world Trade Center on September 11, 2001!
http://911truth-sherbrooke.org.....ot-a-joke/
February 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Truthers,
Your television, cellular phone screen and computer screen are embeded with thousands of vision sensors, i.e., cameras. Within the pixels of the image you are viewing. Take a look and please share.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/0…..cd-pixels/
February 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Good Article, thank you!
roaddog Reply:
February 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
that link is now broken.
msmadame Reply:
February 9th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
http://www.engadget.com/2006/0.....cd-pixels/
Google-telescreens…
February 7th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
in the last 1200 years noone ever conqured afghanistan,in the 1870 s and the 1880s 131,000 men went there and very few came out intact, you see that nation is a tribal nation that is run by clans and tribal chiefs , not by a central government and they are all moslem , the bunch pushing this war are either bum or so greedy or smart as foxes,why do i say that factor this in a way to wipe out another generation of young american men and women, the elimination of the population of americas future, and destroying the very heart of america by making it a hated state in the eyes of the whole world and look what happen to russia , the world hated russians and they were the victims of the jewish bolshevics 45 million of russians died in russia ,but who was the bad guys not the bolshevics ,oh no it was the ( DAMN RUSSIANS) talk about the great lie they were the victims now it our turn people look at the historical facts 97 per cent of the communist power structure was jewish controlled, the reason i posted this what a prefect way to kill us off a little at a time in a war that noone ever won in that area ever not even alexander the great, but he was smart he cut deals with the tribal chiefs and his men married local women and in return he was permitted to go on to indias border and part of his army was accepted as warlords under the tribal chiefs to protect their families and lands and what we call pakistan in the hindo kush montain area of pakistan are part of the same native peoples of afghanistan and they dont care for invaders from any peoples and will fight to the death and are masters of the art of dirty warfare even with rocks or poisons , what are we going to win? and how long are we going to last look at our own history books it tells it all, its totally unwinable , its a human meatgrinder at best but never believe whats posted , read it yourselfs, it seems history does repeat itself and who always pays the little people everywhere while those people on top get more power and more greedy by the day and in the end all that is left is another page in the history books, about the war to nowhere,that helped noone,but those who gained from it and it sure isnt the dummies that payed the ulitimate price with their very lives and blood,while the slobs party hardy in their rich and famous life styles. (ITS SICK AT BEST)
vaksal Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
mistake above…
Rabid anti-semites like this post here because Al-ex encourages it. I would not be surprised if Al-ex or Kurt posted these pieces of garbage themselves as they spout this kind of hate in only
barely veiled ways daily…
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/intro.html
Anti-Talmud accusations have a long history dating back to the 13th century when the associates of the Inquisition attempted to defame Jews and their religion [see Yitzchak Baer, A History of Jews in Christian Spain, vol. I pp. 150-185]. The early material compiled by hateful preachers like Raymond Martini and Nicholas Donin remain the basis of all subsequent accusations against the Talmud. Some are true, most are false and based on quotations taken out of context, and some are total fabrications [see Baer, ch. 4 f. 54, 82 that it has been proven that Raymond Martini forged quotations]. On the internet today we can find many of these old accusations being rehashed and this site is an attempt to correct the mistakes and put the true quotes into their proper perspective.
Khazar myth great article for those who are in need of some truth like you!
jewishpress dot com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=21499
WHO ALEX IS! What do you believe is his agenda? WHO is
he working for? Possibly the Sa ud i billionaire who owns the company who owns genesis?
Maybe since he seems to be so fond of only Fascist, Na zi, and Muslim dis-info he is
really a descendant of German Na zis himself? Maybe he is a Russian spy? Maybe he is
disinfo for the NWO? We can speculate on exactly who he works for, but ONE THING IS
CERTAIN, he is a shill and a bringer of deception, and a radical promoter of hatred!
Al-aksa-ex goes bizerrko on the Jewish people again… he says zionism is a political ideology similar to Hitler, and White Supremicists saying master race and everyone else scum! Anyone else can be killed at will! Apartheid system in Israel worse than S. Africa! Don’t you see that al-ex
is a total radical anti-semite?! Day after day, week after week, year after year, his
he says zionism is slavery legalized! he doesn’t want to “bash” israel because he does not want to be like those who bash all jews! Holy Cow! Anyone who does not see through his double-speak
brainwashing needs to have their heads examined!
AND al-aksa-ex promotes ALL this hate against the Jewish people with his constant
“zionism” lies, and his constant demonization of Israel! HE is such a big part of the
problem of what is going on. Don’t you ALL ask yourselves exactly WHAT his
agenda is? Don’t you ALL ask yourselves exactly WHO he is working for?
In addition he continually demonizes the Jewish people, the Jewish religion, and Israel!
He brings up Jews, the Kabbalah, and Israel even when a caller never does. He twists around
what the caller says just so he can bring it up! Not only that, Alex says he gets slammed by
people who think he is supporting Israel and the Jews when he says these awful things about
them! BUT he ACTS as if the things he said were positive. This is the worst double-speak I
have ever heard! The symbols the NWO use that they STOLE from TRUE kabbalah and turned
in their evil garbage have nothing to do with the NWO! They use the Cross too! Do you hear
Alex dissing Christianity?! NO!…
Also, every time someone calls up and talks about Alex giving ideas of what people can do,
he turns the call around to how much he is doing, or raging on people who only bring up
the fact that ONLY making people aware isn’t enough and claiming they are saying he shouldn’t sell his dvds! I’d really like to see some info on REAL actions to take like the caller on Tuesday 1-27-09 brought up! But you will not hear anything from him, I think, because he doesn’t really want things to get better because he is working for the same people as all the rest!
What a total hypocrite! Al-ex mixes lies with truth. He has on some good people and puts up
some good information, but he IS the dark side! It is so obvious now who he really works for!
He is a Russian spy with the Vatican Assassins, and Saudi propaganda machine behind him…
He is making this now, because he is getting nervous about what people think about him.
Russia is just waiting for the US to break up, they have been planning it for 60 years! So all
the better to give you SOME correct information on the evils of the NWO (but leaving out that
they are part of it!). Notice how Al-ex never gives you anything to do except to tell other people…
And THEN what?! What happens if we do not do something now, like start legal State seccessions
all over the Country? You know there will be another Civil/Revolutionary war… What else can
happen? This is what Russia is waiting for. This is what China is waiting for. This is what the
Islamists are waiting for, this is what the Vatican Assassins are waiting for…
They are waiting until there is mass insanity so they can step in and take over. There are 2 brands
of NWO in the World today 1) the Fascists of the West who have the corporations take over the
government, and 2) the Communist Fascists who have the government take over the corporations,
but they BOTH work for the Vatican Assassins! And they both use the Islamists to help them take over,
and they BOTH use the Jewish people as pawns to be “thrown to the lions.” It has been going on
for a couple of thousand years, and MORE needs to be done than to just tell people about the NWO
and let the FASCISTS take over. Write letters to your Congressmen, start advocacy groups, begin
seccession documents and get thousands to sign them. Enlist lawyers for assistance. Don’t wait for
those devils crouching by the door to come and get you when the hysteria begins, because it will
be too late then. Much too late.
February 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Hmmm…now it’s my turn to have my posts deleted…..sad.
February 8th, 2009 at 4:32 am
The first stage of the escalation is bound up with a strategic overhaul of US policy in the region that will initiate a vast expansion of military violence and increase the focus on exterminating the popular resistance to the neocolonial occupation of Afghanistan, both in Afghanistan and the neighboring regions of Pakistan.
“Military violence, popular resistance to the neocolonial occupation of Afghanistan”. Are you kidding me? Come on people, do you really think the Taliban is popular? This regime is nothing but pure trash. The Taliban needs to be removed. The way of life while living under their control is absolutely unbearable; no medical care, no clean water, no electricity, no music allowed, poverty, women must wear burkhas, men must wear beards, etc or else they face execution without a trial in the nearest colluseum in front of a cheering crowd.
Do we really need to let a regime like this gain more control? If they take hold of Afghanistan and Pakistan do you think they will stop? I think not.
It appears to me that the auther of this article needs to do some more research before he comments on matters that he doesn’t fully understand and keeps to the story at hand.
God Bless our Troops!
lastmohican Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
fuck the troops! there i said it. if you are stupid enough to go kill people for the GI bill then you are a piece of human shit. God bless our troops!?? yes God loves violence and murder and death you imbecile. why don’t you read some of God’s words about peace love and harmony before you blaspheme thus. no one should be made to commit murder, and least of all to murder someone else for the greed and cowardice of an evil “authority.” my authority is God, and hence i would never kill for Bush or Obama. think for yourselves. i would rather fight against our hijacked government than for them at this point.
D Reply:
February 9th, 2009 at 4:54 am
Judging by your post I can see that you believe in peace, love and harmony and your authority is God. Absolutley.
Sheeple Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Oh, D. I love people like you. You’re all so… cute?
The United States is responsible for the formation of the Taliban, so why do you act like it was born out of a void? The very policies of intervention are what spawn individuals and groups like S. Hussein and the Taliban. And do you honestly think the Taliban is global force to be reckoned with? There is no way in hell the Taliban would be able to take control of Pakistan. They have no (or at least they didn’t) inclination for global positioning. The bottom line is that they are a regional force seeking to reestablish the control they lost. That’s it. You represent the other side of the spectrum here. One side – neocolonial jibberish, your side – OH MY GOD THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORD IF WE DON’T STOP THEM!!!!1
They are trash, you’re certainly right about that. They don’t represent a rag-tag freedom loving resistance, that’s for sure. But we aren’t fighting this war for the sake of democracy and the choice to grow a beard, or to bring Bin Laden to justice. We’re waging this war for regional dominance and a destabilized Middle East. You need to do some research as well.
Mister Resister Reply:
February 10th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
It sure is nice to see Im not the only one who is sane and smart enough to figure these things out. I really appreciated this reply.
February 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Apparently some one has been sleeping in class again, flip a couple pages and catch up . . . The American military has been down sized over the the last several Democratic administrations, just to get us to this point. If our strained Military is continually sent around the world to help others, then who will help the Home Boys, when china starts giving arms to undocumented workers to smuggle into America. You can almost bet the National Guard will follow the active military into battle, leaving the HOME LAND, under the failed watchful eye of the home land security team. When attention is applied abroad, watch out at home . . . when applied at home watch out abroad.
Watch and pray . . .
February 8th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
The tribal regions of Afghan-Pakistan are a boneyard for empires. Most Empires throughout history have tried to conquer that region and have failed miserably because the people are good at repelling invaders. During the 1980s, the Russian army tried several surges in an attempt to pacify the region. In the end, their economy failed and the soviet union broke up into fragments. If we’re not careful, the same could happen here. One more thing, the reason why the Afghan war is flairing up again is because we’ve spent six years trying to pacify Iraq (not for long) and have dropped the ball in the attempt to destroy Al-Queda and capture Bin Laden. One final thought, if things become too bogged down in this surge, Obama may bring back the draft. Where is he getting the additional troops?
February 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
According to Israel radio (in hebrew) Kol Yisrael, Peres warned
Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American
requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger
Israeli interests and “turn the US against us.”
At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres,
saying “every time we do something you tell me Americans will do
this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear,
don’t worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish
people control America, and the Americans know it.”
The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon
against saying what he said in public because “it would cause us
a public relations disaster.”
February 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
It took Alexander the Great about ten years, with extremely high casualties, and basically he established a trade route and married into a family. The outer regions gave him grief throughout the occupation. Maybe Obama has a trick up his sleeve. Uncle Bin Laden sounds kind of funny. But I would not laugh too hard.
Send your sons and daughters of to war America, put a big sticker on your SUV and smile like you mean it.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Don’t you just love the Obama “Peace” Bumperstickers!
I have to laugh every time I see one…
Sadly – the oblivious left – fails to see the Irony..
February 9th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
NATO and Afghan’s puppet GOV can share each other’s culture. The Art of Corruption. While more Afghan men, women and children walk, or try to walk, around with no eyes. No arms. No legs. No hands. No food. No fresh water. The BUSH/OBAMA War Machine continues now with the help of Moscow’s KGB. Proud to serve the State. Go NATO………………………………….. No honor. No integrity. No justice.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Americans fought, and won WORLD WAR 2 in five years !
But we can’t beat a handful of cowardly terrorist in what 8 years, and climbing…
What the Hell is going on!
Please somebody, Repeal the age limit to join the Armed Forces from 36 to 50, cause I want to go find these RagHead Hajies, kill them all, and let Alla sort them out.
Bin Laden, Al-Queda, Hammas, Whatever, this shit needs to end NOW!
At this point, I don’t care if they flew the damn planes or not !
I’m tired of this neverending cat, and mouse game.
Terrorists, if You want us come and get us, or stay in your cowardly holes, and rot.
Bring all the troops home, and secure our homeland.
We are just wasting money, chasing shadows of worthless, psyco, cowards.
By the way, Alla Lied to you, there are no virgins waiting for you, only your mothers in mini skirts.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:26 am
The world is full of lies and liars, so if you want to die for a lie why don’t you join the us mercenaries forces , and fight face to face with the Afghanis who have been in a state of war for nearly 40 years, and have been baptized in blood and sacrifice for their families, friends, nation and religion.
I am not talking about the patsies that they show on TV but those that inflict daily casualties to NATO forces daily…. http://theunjustmedia.com/
February 10th, 2009 at 5:26 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErdJpg1ECg
February 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Well Shafii, your right The world is full of lies and liars, If the Edit, or Koran say’s you get vestal virgins for blowing people up, well, I think somehow the truth has been Altered!
I want to help the Afghan People, be free from the Thugs, that infest their country.
The Good, Honest, Decent, Afghanis are fighting with US to oust the evil Taliban Terrorists!
Hell, I wanted to go help Afghanistan out, when Russia invaded them too!
I should have signed up for Merc Man then.
I am not Muslim, or Christian, I just want to help the Afghan people from anymore suffering.
I realize the Taliban are Afghans, but if your not part of the solution, your part of the problem!
Their “State Of War” has been in effect for alot longer than 40 years!
Christians, and Muslims have been fighting eachother since midevil times. Maybe before that!
There has been more bloodshed in the name of God, and Alla that anything else.
So your saying, if I leave my family, and home, to go fight and die with the Brave Afghan People, and Brave American, and NATO forces, to help free them from evil, I will have died in vein.
THAT’S EXACTLY WHY THIS HAS TO END!
Maybe I do believe in a Lie: That far too many have allready died to bring peace, prosperity, and freedom to a country that does not share your negitive view of Everlasting Peace.
shafii Reply:
February 12th, 2009 at 8:51 am
In a philosophical sense I actually blame all of the problems of the world directly at the hand of all so called Muslims.
If a blind person causes a accident on the road, do I blame the blind person or do I blame the person who could see, but chose not to act and allowed the blind person to injured or killed and in tern caused a trauma to the person who hit the person and so on and so on .
I as a Muslim, have been told again and again that when the Muslims stop calling people to truth and forbidding evil and in tern becoming practical example for others then again and again we as Muslims are told that in tern tyrants will rule over us who will nor respect are elders or love our youngsters and then when our enemies will attack us god will tern away from us as we turned away from god.
Historically when Muslims were practicing Islam we became a bacon of light but today I am sad to say that is not the case, until Muslims stop relying on others except for god remember, what Alex says everything the new world order likes I dislike etc… Therefore do not believe any of their lies..
However, there is always hope and hope starts from me, and remember we as Muslims, also must believe in the second coming of Christ peace be upon his soul for god in the Quran tells us that the closest to us, are Christians of true knowledge.
The early generation of Muslims used to say to people “be like us” and god tells us in the Quran I will not change society until people change themselves or in another place “until what is within their hearts.
So in conclusion, we, all irrespective need to change ourselves, realise, what our true individual condition is and even if it is just a smile, then that’s s a start for we are all brothers in humanity have a long tract ahead of ourselves, but the journey will only start by us taking the first step peace be upon you all remember when there is no light then there can only be darkness…………
February 12th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Hey, it’s just the traditional “kick the shit out of ‘em before we leave” thang like Nixon did in his second term when he bombed the crap out of Vietnam and Cambodia before pulling out. I mean ya gotta have a last hurrah for the military industrial banking complex before you turn tail. Gotta unload all that old ordnance so that the shmucks back home can pay through the nose for fresh uns. Uh mean you saps go for it every time, why should the baby-killin’ vampires stop now?
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