Glenn Greenwald
Salon
June 20, 2008
Barack Obama got around to issuing a statement and — citing what he calls "the grave threats that we face" — he just announced that he supports this warrantless eavesdropping and telecom amnesty "compromise":
Given the grave threats that we face, our national security agencies must have the capability to gather intelligence and track down terrorists before they strike, while respecting the rule of law and the privacy and civil liberties of the American people. . . .
After months of negotiation, the House today passed a compromise that, while far from perfect, is a marked improvement over last year’s Protect America Act. . . It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses.
It is not all that I would want. But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as President, I will carefully monitor the program, review the report by the Inspectors General, and work with the Congress to take any additional steps I deem necessary to protect the lives -– and the liberty –- of the American people.
Telling Americans that we have to give up basic constitutional rights — and allow rampant lawbreaking — if we want to save ourselves from "the grave threats we face" sounds awfully familiar. He says he will work to remove amnesty from the bill, but once that fails, will vote for the "compromise." Obama has obviously calculated that sacrificing the rule of law and the Fourth Amendment is a worthwhile price to pay to bolster his standing a tiny bit in a couple of swing states. The full Obama statement is here
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June 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
f--- Obama. What has our country come to? We need the 2nd revolution and deport everyone out who doesn’t fight it or support it. Our forefathers would have already commited tryannicide. No I am not a provacteur for all those paranoid freaks out there. Im a god damned American citizen who’s ancestors fought the revolutionary war and the civil war. It’s time to commence.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Change… right.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
They say he was a constitutional scholar, I have yet to see him behave in a manner as such. Altough I worked for McCain in 2000, and am appallled at what he has become, I can not bring myself to vote Obama this time around. Chuck Baldwin or Ralph Nader gets my vote unless Ventura runs as “None of the Above.” Obama is just like Clinton, he pays lip service to the progressives and does the statists bidding. He is a FRAUD, just like Bush.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Oh yeah, the good old foot-in-the-door method. We give them an inch and they take two feet.
Yeah, it sounds reasonable.
Go ahead with your incrementalism Obama.
Go ahead and start the slide into the abyss.
Go ahead with your conditioning and your empty rhetoric, the people love it.
Go ahead and spin your lies, and weave your webs in hypocrisy.
All in vain you fools!
You will be confounded by a one, Jesus Christ.
The Most High holds you in derision!
“Why do the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.”
June 20th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
The New World Order is acting on all initiatives. They are rushing to gain their full control of the World by 2012 because they know what is to come, and should they succeed the Anti-christ will rule the planet and the war of Good vs Evil will truly begin.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
It’s Malcolm X time. Ballot or the Bullet. No one is dragging me off to a camp.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
So what other Amendments is (Obama) willing to compromise? Definitely the 2nd will soon to follow.
1789
June 20th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
I totally agree with Daniel, post one.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Barack Obama got around to issuing a statement and — citing what he calls “the grave threats that we face” — he just announced that he supports this warrantless eavesdropping and telecom amnesty “compromise” bill.
(Seeing as all the threats that we Americans face today come from the Bush Nazi Terrorist Administration and from no other, this Obama Hussein Bin Laden Muhhammad Barack who not only renounced his own Muslim heritage to be a man without a country, but now wants to sell Americans out to any criminal who may have us for their ill-gotten gains and profits, has no place in our U.S. Federal government, not in the Executive branch, nor under the roofs of our U.S. Congress! May he be prosecuted to the fullest extent of our U.S. laws to rid us of this man who has no Black Roots in this United states to be called an American! -Al Koppel.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I also agree with post two, post three, most of post four, post five, post six, and I have to agree with post seven, and I, of course, agree with myself … LOL.
My fellow Americans …. we are in very deep s---.
June 20th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
The end is near my brothers and sisters. But everyone that comes to this page knows this. It’s going to be a horrific suprise to the sheeple when we have absolutely no rights. But hey, at least we’ll be safe. I’d rather die in a terrorist attack than give up my rights and live like a coward. If we’re so worried about terrorism then why don’t we just become isolationists and hide from the rest of the world.
June 20th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Obama will say whatever is politically convenient because as President he too wants to have the same Bush Fascist power and authority over certain matters that Bush has made business as usual for the sitting President of the United States. Obama is nothing but a bought and paid for politician that will eagerly push his corporate masters interests over the people of the United States of America. Obama will change nothing and somehow we already know this even before the election has taken place. What a joke our electoral process has become. It’s no wonder the politicians have also become a joke in the process.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:05 am
I got his f---in’ compromise right here BRO’!!! IF we all believe in The Constitution we have THE RIGHT to start smokin’ politicians outright!!! I tire,I tire, I tire of the buLLLs--- from people not engaging their officials!!! STOP WATCHING f---ING SPORTS, NASCAR(Which IS gay btw), baseball, football, etc., We ALL have a job to do along with living our lives!!!! Engage…Activate…Acquire Aquisition…Super-Elevate…FIRE!!! Rope is also alot cheaper than STINGERS!!! Get Active people!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:55 am
Benny Hinn, first of all, I don’t know you personally, so I don’t know if you are my brother or sister. Second, you say that everyone that comes to this page knows that “the end is near”. This is called putting words in people’s mouths and pretending that you speak for everyone when you don’t. I don’t think the so-called end is near, I come to this page, and I disagree with you. So please don’t pretend that you speak for me and everyone else when you don’t. It’s really quite annoying. Everyone has their own independent voices, and you ought not try to take that away from people by pretending to speak for everyone when you don’t. You only speak for yourself, nobody else. And again, I don’t know if you are my brother or sister. All I know about you is that you put words in people’s mouths and pretend to speak for everyone when you don’t.
June 21st, 2008 at 5:07 am
THERE WILL A CIVIL WAR IN THE WAKE OF THE NEW ELECTIONS. WHAT WITH ALL OF THE “LEVEY’S SOME HOW GETTING “DAMAGED” ALONG THE MISS. CAUSING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO REPOPPULATE OTHER AREAS, CONCENTRATING THEM IN NEW LOCATIONS AND DIVING THE COUNTRY, LITTERALLY. MARTIAL LAW IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP
June 21st, 2008 at 7:20 am
Osama Obama Osama Obama Osama Obama,.. whoever writes this trash novel sure thinks we are stupid,… Hussein Hussein,.. Double talk,. Double think,. Double speak,.. Confuse the sheeples mindes,.. One minute the terror, next the saviour,.. Osama, sorry who!? no Obama,. my mistake,.. hahahah,… Duped big time,. this election counts you bet ya!!
June 21st, 2008 at 8:19 am
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them,as travail upon a woman with child; and they sall not escape.But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day; we are not of night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.But let us, who are of the day, be sober,putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.
June 21st, 2008 at 9:38 am
Hey Paul Craig Roberts, couldn’t we trust the democrats to support our civil liberties?
Shows what you know.
Step outside this left-right paradigm, mr. Roberts, and stick to economics when you’re on Alex’s show. Don’t talk crap like that again only to be proven wrong just a few days later.
June 21st, 2008 at 9:39 am
Hey Paul Craig Roberts, where are all the courageous democrats now that are going to support our civil liberties? Like, ah, I don’t know, the fourth amendment?
Perhaps they are hiding in Bin Laden’s cave?
June 21st, 2008 at 9:41 am
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June 21st, 2008 at 9:50 am
Obama will say whatever is politically convenient because as President he too wants to have the same Bush Fascist power and authority over certain matters that Bush has made business as usual for the sitting President of the United States. Obama is nothing but a bought and paid for politician that will eagerly push his corporate masters interests over the people of the United States of America. Obama will change nothing and somehow we already know this even before the election has taken place. What a joke our electoral process has become. It’s no wonder the politicians have also become a joke in the process.
f--- this cocksucker name obama, just saddens me.
June 21st, 2008 at 9:51 am
Makes me glad I Left the democratic party last year
I’m voting for chuck baldwin this time.
June 21st, 2008 at 10:19 am
That’s why I Always perfer john edwards over that loser.
June 21st, 2008 at 11:07 am
I have absolutely had enough when it comes to Obama and all of the others for that matter. They are all liars and would say anything to be given more power. Everyday we are losing our rights while Americans sit on their asses and let it happen. If you are not calling, writing, faxing, or doing anything to voice your opinions to the powers that be YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM and in my eyes accountable. The government has already decided that America shouldn’t be sovereign any longer have you? I urge anyone that is upset about these self inflicted problems to get out and start doing something, anything. It is time for a peaceful revolution because our government already has more than enough weapons to kill any sort of violent uprising. We have made ourselves defenseless through allowing them to restrict our right to bear arms, invade our privacy, and now they are attacking our freedom of speech through the guise of political correctness. Stand up now you pitiful sheeple and demand a return to the constitution while it is still recognized as legitimate!!!!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Should I vote for the guy, known as a Constitutional lecturer, whom voted to REAUTHORIZE the Unconstitutional PATRIOT ACT????
Should I vote for the guy who supported Curtailing Class Action Suits against Corporations, crossing party lines to back a bill supported by Bush, Big Business, & every Republican that voted on it???
Should I trust someone who says he’s for Change. He says he’s for Marijauna Decriminalization, but while an Illinois state Senator, he did nothing to change the laws in a blue state with a high liberal population.
The Health Care issue is a wonderful way to get all those potential customers to sign on up to the Legal Drug Trade, and oh boy you get to pay for it, while under Obama’s “plan” seniors $50,000 and under would pay No Income Tax, and they’re the ones who’ll be using health care. Don’t Worry, Obama supports mental health screening, so when you realize that you were f---ed either way & go whacko, your super new health care plan will be waiting with a fistful of anti-depressants that have the side effects of making you suicidal, or the perfect zombie bliss of whatever pharmacandy they might finally figure out gets you through the day more or less, and you can go about believing bulls--- that comes out of the TV.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
What, you thought Obama was a good guy?
aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
suckers.
13*
June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Cater to their whims…with Poise, Son….and Grace!
June 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Sheeple For O Ba-aa-aa ma! The Bleat Goes On.
I’ll be asking everyone who supports either Obama or McCain this year this question-
“Why do you support the destruction of American sovereignty and the creation of a New World Order/One-World govt. police state??”
When they say “I don’t support that” I’ll point out that “Your friggin candidate does!” Both are aligned with the CFR and each WILL have CFR and Trilateral Commission members in their administration and appointments to key postions from Sec. of State on down just as EVERY prez has had since Hoover and the inception of the CFR in 1921. Even b4 that, Wilson had the same gang of crooked Bankster tools advising him such as with the creation of the ‘Federal’ Reserve scam. Nothing will “change” with anyone but Ron Paul.
Muslims Barred From Picture at Obama Event >
http://www.ibrattleboro.com/ar.....9#comments
“Two Muslim women at Barack Obama’s rally in Detroit on Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women’s headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.
The campaign has apologized to the women, both Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Being a Black supporter of Ron Paul, I can especially feel the pain of seeing so many of all races falling for this hack Obama. And especially if they do so because of his color. It just shows how controllable the masses are by way of the propaganda. Thank God that number is steadily shrinking.
http://www.humanityovercomes.blogspot.com
June 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
When SWAT TEAMS raid your house without your notification, then, we have a serious problem, as it’s unconstitutional. Most people believe I’m nuts when I say this. People think it’s completely normal, that’s the eerie part. Now that Ron Paul’s out of the race, expect politics to get extremely ugly.
-Freedom Forever-
Tyranny, NEVER!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
If this doesn’t show you what a new world order scum Oduma is then I don’t know what will.
Any elected official who is willing to violate the constitution doesn’t deserve the office of president.
Barrack Brezinski is starting to show his true colors and I bet there’s shoe polish on his tongue.
Do to the fact he’s cousins with Cheney should show you the nepotism that runs deep in this government to keep the royal bloodline in power and Oscuma has the blood line and he WILL carry out the new world order agenda when the royals and the corporate interests put him in the White House.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
So what would a massive vote of “no confidence” do to the system?
June 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Way to torpedo hope frakker!!!
Well there goes the planet. Now back to stocking away food…
June 21st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Who Osama,. sorry, Obama,.. yes Osama,. who!? no Sory oSama,. duh,. deh,. OBAMA,…
Hussein!? – Saddam!? no,. Obama,.. !? Osama,.. no you fool,. sorry ima sheeple,. i confuse easily,.. <> Somin Funny Goin on, i smell a trash Novelist,.. Sniff Sniff,..
June 21st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Were not wanting a muslim in our country pure scum nwo trash more terror with this IDIOT pusbag
June 21st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
and soon we all will be saying impeachment of Barack Obama ..
it is only a matter of time
June 22nd, 2008 at 6:32 am
Jesus, if that’s not double-speak than what is?
June 22nd, 2008 at 8:24 am
Obama is nothing but an Uncle Tom.
June 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 am
As much as the ‘Oprah crowd’ and the other sheep-grass eatin’, kool-aid drinkin’ lemmings tout this guy as the ’second coming’; all I can say is that just like those in the Repugnant Party (or most politicians), I don’t trust this asshat for an instant.
Democrap or Repugnant. Same s---, different pile.
June 22nd, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Same Ol’ s--- Just A Different f---in Face ! None Of These AssHoles Deserves Our Vote . Except Ron Paul !
June 22nd, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Vote For RON PAUL And JESSE VENTURA ! Do You Want Our Great Nation Back ? Fight For It , Take Her Back ! REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY WAY !
June 22nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Free Man, if revolution is the only way, why are you urging people to vote?
And last I heard, Ron Paul dropped out.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 am
No suprise here. He’s also for getting in on a nato treaty that bans small arms. What’s another amendment when we’ve already lost so many?
February 10th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
“It’s not all that I would want” will be his excuse for everything. He will continue to bring us deeper into the sewer as he sympathizes with the people. Very frightening. Remember the Holocaust, remember the Inquisition.