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    CNN
    March 12, 2009

    Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.

    But the proposal would be “dead on arrival” if it’s sent to Congress, Sen. Patty Murray, D-Washington, said.

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    Murray used that blunt terminology when she told Shinseki that the idea would not be acceptable and would be rejected if formally proposed. Her remarks came during a hearing before the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs about the 2010 budget.

    No official proposal to create such a program has been announced publicly, but veterans groups wrote a pre-emptive letter last week to President Obama voicing their opposition to the idea after hearing the plan was under consideration.

    The groups also cited an increase in “third-party collections” estimated in the 2010 budget proposal — something they said could be achieved only if the Veterans Administration started billing for service-related injuries.

    Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under “consideration.”

    “A final decision hasn’t been made yet,” he said.

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    141 Responses to “Obama Wants Vets to Pay For Service Related Injuries”

    1. tahoeblazer Says:

      They do pay for their injuries , sometimes with their lives .

      BiG Bill Reply:

      Great Point

      Outrage Reply:

      Let the Coward-In-Chief pay for his own service related injuries. Right after his Praetorian Guard kick his ass up ’round his shoulders. I’m only making a PREDICTION here. Obama just might not want to piss off the military any more than he ALREADY has!

    2. VETERAN Says:

      Yes, just look at this video.
      Obama lied to us.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drI83eGNZtE

    3. Beavis Says:

      These poor guys and gals that do get injured get s---ty care from the VA to begin with. Making them pay for this type of “care” is absolutely insane!! I believe that EVERY citizen that goes to war (justified or not) should get a million dollars AND free health care for the rest of their lives!! They should ALSO live tax free for the rest of their lives as well. This would no doubt force the government to think VERY seriously about starting wars to begin with. The people that end up fighting and dieing for these assholes that send them to war are treated as 2nd class citizens while dickhead pro ball players are put up on pedestals.
      The people of this nation had better wake the hell up and smell the fascism.
      See ya at the camps

      Johnny Chimpo Reply:

      Oooh, I like the no tax for our wounded warriors idea, or at least 1/2 taxes. These brave men and women serve with honor and are treated like crap when they return. Shame on us.

      Well Reply:

      They shoot them up with cancer causing vaccines, then we have to foot the bill to take care of their stupid asses.

      Drink clean water, eat clean food, don’t be shot up with live viruses and harmful metals and for gods sake stop killing innocent woman and children all over the world.

      Do these things and life will smile upon you. Until then you can all keep paying for your injuries because you did not treat your body as a temple and you signed it away along with your soul to a bankrupt and corrupted government.

      It’s called reaping what you sow. Sorry if some of you don’t want to hear it.

      bebe Reply:

      Go outside for a long leisurely walk, Well, and take in deep breaths of toxic air provided by the “sky spiders” and their chemtrails! You can do what you will, they’ll get you one way or another, so don’t preach. Your for 911 Truth

      Carla H Reply:

      My father was a vet, and when he got cancer, the VA used him like a guina pig. We tried to find his medical records, but they all disappeared, I wonder why?

      I agree with you Beavis, our brave troops should be treated like royalty. I think you have some very interesting ideas. After these men and women risk their lives for us, they should never have to worry about money again.

      What they must be going through, it just makes me sick to think of it. After I saw an online beheading, it makes you realize what our troops are up against.

      Everyday, they are keeping us safe from harm, and I appreciate that. We owe them so much.

    4. Hammeru66 Says:

      As a Iraq War Veteran I know this is going on, they do not want to pay for any service related injuries. While the VA is processing claims a little faster they still make you jump thru so many hoops that you feel like giving up your claim. I LIKE OTHERS ARE BROKEN NEEDED TO BE FIXED, FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY AND NOW THEY ASK US, LIKE THEY ASKED ME TO GO AND GET A MEDICAL EXAM OUT OF MY POCKET. SORRY CONGRESS THIS s--- IS ALREADY HAPPENING.

      SEMPER FI, OUT~

      Well Reply:

      The truth hurts.

      Blondebrainstorm Reply:

      The number of Americans who voluntarily enlist in the military whose goal is to willfully fight for the establishment of the NWO is micro-fractional.

      People enlist for economic reasons or for various opportunities (college funds, education, and so on). Some may enlist solely to serve America and defend the founding principles and citizens’ rights.

      The Pentagon does urinate on servicemen who are disabled to any degree. A friend who has a terminal neurological disease is forced to travel 3-4 hours to reach a VA clinic for treatment because the military turned him out of the center that was 45 minutes away.

      Also, if a member receives compensation for their disability he has to fight the IRS because it is taxed initially. My husband had to fight the IRS for ten months to have returned to him the significant amount of money that was taxed.

      This is typical of the government, though.

      John Henke Reply:

      No one should fight for this criminal regime.

      Not Me Reply:

      You DID NOT fight for my country, or for me.

      YOU were part of an obscene oil grab. You fought to cement TRAGEDY for my country, and those poor souls to whom you were sent to brutalize.

      Grow:
      1. a pair of balls
      2. a brain capable of critical thinking
      3. a conscience

      Your soul is in the balance, believe it.

      bebe Reply:

      True.

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Yes bebe, I remember Abu Ghraib. It is surreal in my memory. The poor fellow with the black hood and electrodes hooked to him. Oh he was a terrorist! An evil, sadistic terrorist! He deserved to be humiliated because he was a cohort to 911. Yep, he was part of the entire conspiracy.
      God love ya bebe…..

      Carla H Reply:

      Shame on you NOT ME.

      Have you ever seen any of those beheadings?

      That’s what they would do to you….if they could.

      Those brave men and women are standing between you and harm’s way. Sure, there may be other reasons they are over there, but in the end, it is to benefit people like you and me. You should be damned grateful, I know I am.

      bebe Reply:

      Let me get this straight, you embrace US invasions of UNAGGRESSIVE sovereign nations and condone the carnage and destruction of thousand year-old cultures. as long as YOU can reap the benefits? Wow! Go knit something, Carla, and daydream of aircraft carriers and the perks of days gone by…Yours for 911 Truth

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Very well said bebe, you got it goin on…

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Carla, I have never been in the military but I worked on a military ammunition supply depot as a civilian for almost 7 years (although i wont say where its at) and about 90% of the employees there were post military and yes most of them were aggressive and bullish. I couldnt stand being around the psychos anymore so I quit.. thats the honest truth, I’m not making this up.

      Rick E. Reply:

      Ohhhh it’s all about the oil. Our little oil conspiracy. Are you serious?

      IRAQ VET Reply:

      You stupid f---. Do you think that is what we were thinking when we enlisted. Unfortunately I became aware of everything after I served. Shut your f---ing mouth you ignorant piece of s---.

      enoch7 Reply:

      I hear you pal. My step father believed in what he was doing when he went to Nam. It took a little while for him to figure it out. We all are taught when we are young that this country is the greatest country on earth. I believe it would be if our government wasn’t hijacked. Most who fight for this country are 18 to 25 years old. I don’t understand why people blame young men and women for doing what they are told is right by those placed in authority. I am sorry that you had to go over there. I hope your life goes better than that from now on. I want to see those who planned this s--- to be put on trial for crimes against humanity. You are blameless in this matter.

      surfyogi113 Reply:

      enoch7: Nicely said…

      you know who Reply:

      IRAQ VET, please be patient with some of these people. You can understand the anger and frustration out there after things like Katrina and the rest of it. There are many of us who understand that some of you guys are coming around to the truth and the right side of things.

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      I’ve noticed something about you military types and I’m not talking about internet chatrooms or forums but in real life… most of you are bullies and it’s like you have some kind of mental disorder that causes you to want to be in control of other people the same way cops are. I’m not saying all military people are like this but a very large % is.

      bebe Reply:

      Monkey is correct. Psychological profiling shows many of the volunteer “young men and women” possess certain disturbing characteristics and being young and naive seems a pretty lame reason to agree to kill. Of course, the present recruits, in many cases, have been conditioned by video games etc. Nonetheless, it seems to be the case that bullies/sadists etc. tend to gravitate towards positions offering a level of petty power over their fellowmen.

      It’s a historical fact that False Flag events have repeatedly fooled people into going to war. Another historical fact is that the US has never been involved in a JUST foreign war, hence, the justification for joining up to “defend the country” has never been valid. It is tragic how the “Empire” disposes of vets from every illegal war/invasion; however, it should come as no surprise your masters lose interest once their minions cease to be useful. Yours for 911 Truth

      Carla H Reply:

      I grew up on military bases, and really, these military types are just like anyone else. Just like in civilian life, you have your bullies too, but all in all they are no different from anyone else.

      I have really great memories of all the perks us kids enjoyed while living on base. We still tell stories about the saliors who had to take care of all the kids while mom and dad shopped at the commisary where kids were not allowed. These sailors were still just kids themselves and we had a lot of fun with them.

      We also got to go on an aircraft carrier and watch the jets land and take off. And of course there were plenty of air shows to watch too. It was a very exciting life. All these years later we realize what a what a great childhood we had living on base.

      As far as mental disorders, I am sure these people are weeded out early on. I don’t think you are in a position to say things like that if you never really lived around “military types” like I have.

      bebe Reply:

      And Monkey, remember Abu Ghraib and all those faces beaming over the mutilated bodies of their victims. Oh! They were just following orders…young and naive, indeed!

      you know who Reply:

      GRUMP, we need the military on our side. Some of them are on the fence and if they come here and see comments like yours they could get anger with us. Understand?

      Carla H Reply:

      Disgraceful! Is this America? Where can we write to protest this? We need to start a petition or something, this is not right.

      My father was a vet, and my mother even gets 100% free medical care for life, paid for by the US government! She just had two knee surgeries and she did not have to pay a dime out of pocket. She did not have to go to a VA hospital either, she just showed her Tri Care card and she was good to go.

      Certainly our active troops should have the same kind of health insurance as a vet’s widow.

      Rick E. Reply:

      Grump you are certainly are a s--- stirrer. I think you like to start controversy just for the hell of it. You’re still a dumbs--- though.

    5. Red Rabit Says:

      Its funny to hear this now when back when iraq started 2003 service member injuries outside theater were much harder to get any government coverage. The thing is they would treat you then flip you a bill. And if the injury was serious they would pull a “its not nessary for this treatment due to it doesnt fall under a criterier of requirerments” This bullet dodging has been going on for years now. And i have witnessed this from people i know. Sad world but hay it generates money in not spending it. Its all about care and it seems that the leadership at the top dont care they see you as a number and a peice of paper no realization that your a person just like they are. But they get the full coverage and perks while the rest suffer there consiqenses…

    6. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      The Veterans Administration Drones will SCREW the Vet every chance they get.

      Do NOT dare bother them at ‘work’

      It ain’t my job

      Rick E. Reply:

      I don’t know what VA you have been going to, but I have been in two VA systems. After I was medically retired I was receiving excellent service at the VA in White City Oregon. I then moved Michigan and for nearly 9 years I was in the Ann Arbor System. I am also in the Portland and Roseburg Systems for Cardiac care. I have absloutely nothing negative to say about any provider. If you have something legitamitaly wrong and it’s service-connected you will get the best possible care you can get. Ann Arbor uses UofM doctors and Portland uses OHSC doctors for their facility. What Obama is considering will ruin all of that and if you want to see some pissed off folks, let that bill pass.

    7. BuddyCanUSpareAJob Says:

      Just more bulls--- from this administration. We owe our veterans FREE help on anything related to their injuries. To all you vets out there….thank you. I, for one, appreciate everything you all have done.

      bebe Reply:

      Thanks for what? For fighting in ILLEGAL WARS/INVASIONS? Geez, some people are just irremediably dense. Never mind, there’s no money, honey, the banksters got it all. Yours for 911 Truth

    8. Johnny Chimpo Says:

      I can see it now…PFC Jones rolls over to the cashier at Rammstein AFB.

      Hmm. Lets see, an amputated leg, 4 bullet wounds, punctured lung, that will be $15000, and your private insurance only covers 90%, so your copay will be $1500. Will you be paying cash, credit, or should we just keep your next month’s pay?

      This is a disservice to our men and women who are serving. They should never have to ask for healthcare again after being wounded in the service of the nation. They are already used as guinea pigs for Big Pharma, now Obama wants to do this!?!

      So…is there going to be a Purple Heart Discount?

    9. johnny Says:

      Obama coming to LA, CA. But where exactly? http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11895424

    10. Venom Says:

      This is why you do not join the US military. If they do not care about the soldiers then why care about them .

    11. inyourservice Says:

      The reason the Republican party shunned Ron Paul is because he is many things that they are not. He is honest. He is conservative. He follows the Constitution. He stays out of the affairs of sovereign nations. He is for small government. He is for open, fair and honest elections. He is for third party representation.
      He is for open government. He is for states rights. He is for non government intervention. He is for small government. He is for minimal taxation. He is for disbanding the IRS.
      Now, why would the Republican party shun a man with this kind of character?
      Answer: He is what they pretend to be. He is a true conservative who practices what the republicans preach. He is what the republican party will never be. He is Ron Paul.

    12. Scotty Says:

      This man has to be taken out of office before it is too late!
      Thanks to all our liberal low IQ idiots who actually believed this tyranical commi and voted for him.
      We now have women working against his abortion policy who actually voted for him but are reluctant to admit it. It is like all the females who voted for Clinton because he looked good? Or all the balcks who voted for both of these idiots. 1/2 of america lives in a dreamworld or what I call the ” Disney World syndrome”
      If you do not know the principles America was founded on and do not want to live under them, move far away!

    13. call of duty Says:

      Thats bs they shouldn’t have to pay they should take care of them check out libertywheel.com great vids fema camps location

    14. House Says:

      Maybe those Service men & women will start to see just how insignificant they are to their government?

      I laughed this morning when I heard Barry say he was going to hold the states “accountable” for their stimulus money, and to be sure it wasn’t squandered. Too bad he can’t seem to do that anywhere else. Freakin’ moron!

    15. Ken Says:

      Your an idiot. Most vets don’t know they are being used by the criminal elite and they all deserve full medical benifits.

      I FULLY support our loyal troops that want to defend the constitution and human rights.

      Good Military: UNITE and resist this TYRANY!!

    16. Hmm Says:

      Wait a second, I thought he was going to bring in free universal health care for all Americans? I don’t get it, free health care is right around the corner, so why would Obama want this? Isn’t this unnecessary, since he is going to give us all free health care? Wait a second, he was lying about the free health care? But then why the did the stimulus package create a new federal agency and require that all of our medical records be digitized and uploaded to the federal government? Isn’t that so we can get free health care? Why else would the federal government want our medical records?

    17. Rick78X Says:

      Hey, let it go through. That way the military will really rebel against phony, unjust wars. What a retarded idea. Your going to send someone to a war the government is responsible for creating, then if the soldier gets injured he or she is financially responsible for the care they require. Next, these Bizarro idiots will be telling soldiers they have to bury themselves in their own graves if they get killed. And you morons out there voted for this clown. You morons voted, period, instead of rejecting this broken system and demanding one that really works. Obama’s going to turn out to make Bush look like Mr. Rogers.

      bebe Reply:

      So true.

      Hope Reply:

      Nobody can make Bush look like Mr. Rogers. Bush was the biggest mistake in the history of this country. He has caused more damage than all the past presidents combined.

    18. UNDERSTAND Says:

      I understand some of what the vets go through. Some have been mentally made to mush, and some vets are afraid to speak up, especially the working for the fed vets because of losing whatever benefits they already do have. I have spoke up on occasions only to be discriminated against and not to be an advocate for them. I have seen a nurse tell a vet who was nearly in tears in a wheelchair and on an oxygen tank coming from another appointment 15 min late and lives 2 hours away. The nurse said I am sorry you have to reschedule. I ask the doctor to please speak to the vet even if he couldn’t see him even though I was just a peon that I had to go through the nurse to speak to the doctor. The doctor not only spoke to him, but took time out to see him. It is going to get worse unless our vets start speaking up.

      Warrior Priestess Grandma Reply:

      Thank You Brother, What so ever You would do for the least of these
      You do for Our long forgotton Mother.

      Bet that guy was sure glad You came along : )

    19. Mark Says:

      I am convinced that our Government is trying their best to provoke a Civil War here in the USA. It is the only way the globalist can reach their goal. With the USA out of the way, the UN could march for domination.

      TyraNY Inc $$ Reply:

      Looks that way for sure … Support all Vets. and awayken them to the NWo’S plans ,most of them will be on the ‘right side’ …

    20. CBM Fan Says:

      This kind of says it all
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs

      Not Me Reply:

      THANK YOU!

      That song and vid are going to get some spreading around from me.

      Excellent.

    21. Marie G Says:

      What a repugnant leadership to lure these poor young folk aggressively, promising them a better life (if they live), underpaying them under the guise of patriotic service and the quest for freedom–and then screwing them when they return injured.

      They should be set for life, with no worries.

      All politicians voting for this should be required to send at least one son or daughter to their false wars–then you would see veteran care improve.

      No one should sign-up for such breach of contract–moral or otherwise.

      Rick E. Reply:

      It is exactly that Marie “A Repugnant Leadership.” Who in their right mind would want to sacrifice if they knew that this main staple of benefits would be the responsibility of a grateful nation. This is worse then fascism, at least the military in that government reaps all the benefit.

    22. 4w578i Says:

      Whether or not I agreed with their decision, I would honor it so much more, if they had answered these difficult questions before enlisting.

      I’ve heard many, old accusations, even since middleschool, and you would know this kind of stuff about any other job.

      What gives?

    23. IRAQ VET Says:

      Blow me Grump. You will want us to be nice and healthy and on your side when the s--- hits the fan f---er.

      GunSlinger Reply:

      GRUMP IS ONE STUPID PIECE OF s---, MY GOD HE MUST HAVE BEEN LAST IN LINE WHEN GOD GAVE OUT THE BRAINS!! TYPICAL AMERICAN

      jones Reply:

      how much s--- does america needs in the fan?

      reed Reply:

      Probally enough to make the fan fall from the ceiling. But Texas will more than likely be first and you can bet your ass I will be right at the state line volunteering to join in protecting the Republic of Texas, like any true American / Texan should. The real USA died when Kennedy did and we’ve seen nothing but mouth pieces for the puppet masters since then.

      John Henke Reply:

      The ONLY way I will move back to Texas, is when it’s an independent republic.

      I’m with you reed. Lets go volunteer at the state line!

      In fact, I’ll race you to the first state to go independent!

    24. Florian Says:

      When the idiot American public finally decides to draw their line in the sand against this corrupt administration–the results will be deadly.
      Civil war you say?
      I foresee that also.

    25. sewkr8tez Says:

      Alex Jones the animated gifs really bite dude. :-/

    26. the wiper Says:

      Well this is the “change” we voted for. Changing ways to abuse our vets and fellow Americans with more repressive and draconian laws. The more things change the more they stay the same. But in this case it’s at an accelerated rate. Apparently for Obama-heads it is not fascism when we do it. Alex is right when he said it is a team mentality where it’s the my boy in there and they think they apart of something. Wake the hell up Obama-noids you have been deceived!

      http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en

      When a person believes in nothing, promises you everything and deliver you nothing. What does that make him? I’ll tell you! A CON-ARTIST! Only Change that matters is change in your pocket, change of oil, and a change in underwear. Not this brand of change.

    27. A who Says:

      “Here, go fight this meaningless money oil war for me, oh you got shot, your limb(s) have been blown off, you lost your sight, your ability to walk or talk…… buuuuut….. you’re going to have to find a way to pay for all the recovery processes and medicines and hospital stays because I’m too busy racking up taxes, injecting ear mark pork loaded “stimulus packages” into our already failing overly bank reliant economy and pulling some robin hood bull s--- (taking from the rich giving to the poor) But I am unaware that by taking from the rich, the rich then have no choice but to lay people off and make income cuts on their less wealthy/fortunate employees, but no, you become my little GI Joe action figure to fight in this fight for world empire America, and you then must pay for all your injuries and near death close calls with the money out of your pocket that the army/military/navy/air force promised you, but you don’t have because you were lied to.” -Barrack Obama.

      gosh, wouldn’t transparency be so swell.

      Hope Reply:

      Yes, and this was the result of our previous administration. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Oh sure, but the fundamentals of our economy are strong as Bush and McCain promised us, and LIED!!!

    28. bRINGitON Says:

      I wish there would be a civil war, even if its what “they” want at least it would change the current enviornment. It might throw a little excitment into that dull, boring, meaningless exsistance we call human life. I call General of the Armies of the WEST.

    29. Elvis Says:

      f---in A…

      Obama is the man.

      Scumbag military would never have been injured if they stayed at home.

      Nobody made them join.

      I wouldnt even pay them. They should pay Obama for the priviledge of serving.

      you know who Reply:

      Yup.
      You heard the Col. on the show the other day. When Alex asked him about the 2nd. amendment he exposed himself as the traitor piece of filth he is and said he has no opinion and had to go.

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Thank ya… thank ya very much..

    30. Muah'Dib Says:

      This usurper “KING,” is out of his damn “CRACK FILLED,” mind ! He is not the “President of MY UNITED STATES,” & this plan is a tragedy & dishonors the veterans & the VA medical care system, since it’s inception. It is the “GOVERNMENT’S,” responsability totally to take care of the wounded & killed ! It just goes to show what a “LOWLIFE, SCUM-SUCKING,PIG,PRETENDER,” this piece of filth is !

    31. Maxstein SS Says:

      Holy f--- MAN f--- !

    32. Viet Nam Vet Says:

      We Viet Nam Vets were DRAFTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      We had no choice.

      We were the unwilling, doing the impossible for the UNGRATEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Our own countrymen hated and ridiculed us!!!!!!!!!!!!

      BTW Elvis take some more dope ya dope!!!!

      A Patriot is a militiaman who readies himself everyday in quiet FURY!

      VNV

      Elvis Reply:

      So they didnt explain sarcasm to you in the army ?

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Viet-nam vet, youre either lying about being a viet nam vet or you never saw any action. Do you know how I know? Viet Nam vets who were in the thick of it never talk about it.

    33. Unite!! Says:

      How does this story we call life end? Will the New World Order Succeed? Reach deep for the answers and when you finally realize with all your heart that the power is With The People, your gonna want to unite with others that feel the way you do. When that day comes, just remember:
      http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG

    34. living0history Says:

      it is so repugnant; but really, except for WWI and WWII (and maybe not even, according to some) “America” has treated its vets like s--- ! Just read history !! what will WE do about it? because talking big and doing nothing is what Americans have done since the country’s inception.

      living0history Reply:

      * in regards to veterans care

    35. roaddog Says:

      The same as chimp bush started. To the troops—-You’re on your own, from start to finish. They couldn’t care less about you. They want you dead. It’s cheaper.

      Brian M. Reply:

      Agree, Dead or Drugged. Rendered ineffective. The UN dumbing down of the US starts with the armed forces. Mission Accomplished, God I hate my enemy. Please forgive me, I gave 20 to see this GD Ineligible Elected try to pull this BS off.

    36. roaddog Says:

      Oh yeah–Chimp bush cut $14 billion from the V.A. when they went into iraq.

      Brian M. Reply:

      You should have seen my chain of command bitch when I brought this topic up to the Master Chief of the Navy. This guy denied it was happening then, but the disabled vets group had all the facts. I felt like that guy challenging Rummy over body armor, all alone. Years later I feel vindicated being correct, but still sucked to have no backing at the time.

    37. All Smiles Says:

      Do you think Obama smiles in his sleep, too?

      roaddog Reply:

      Do demons sleep?

      Obamalama Ding Dong Reply:

      Nah. I think it’s just painted on.

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    39. you know who Says:

      hahahahahahaha……….look at thos troops. Just duh,duh,duh,duh,duh,duh,duh,duh,duh,duh,dud.

    40. The Marine Says:

      What the hell would Obama know about service related injuries in the first place? Oh, yeah, he got a paper cut on his peepee while he was in Chicago serving his community and rammed his lil barry into a pile of dollar bills he extorted from the taxpayers.

      Call me "Da' Prez" Reply:

      And it hurt like a mutha’ f---a’, man! And don’ts fo’get that I should get a purple heart fo’ surviving all dat blow back in da’ day!! Not ta’ mention my back injury from sittin’ on a fat wallet fo’ so long!

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Now would you swear to that on a stack o’ bugs bunny funny papers?

    41. Renegade Rivers Says:

      While it is as if I am “preaching to the choir,” to many of you, I feel that it can’t be said enough. The average American is being played like a sad song on the way to a train wreck. To the average American, this whole world is an illusion and they have no idea where the rubber hits the rode to reality. They have the have an ideological concept of a world, and country that only exist in imagination, and fairy tales.

      We have an administration presently in power that wants to drain every drop of power out of the positions they hold, not for the people, but for themselves, and more importantly the special interest that they secretly support, and in turn receive compensation from.

      What the present administration is doing, is no more than bait and switch tactics that con-men have used for centuries. They make promises they can’t keep, and sell smoke and call it fire. They promised better care, and support for veterans, and now we see what the the rest of the story is.

      Did not the present administration learn anything from the treatment that was afforded to veterans of both Vietnam, and Iraq1? Oops, I guess they did, he wants to screw the vets now getting out just like those before have all got screwed. No change, just a different face.

    42. Yes We Can!!! Says:

      Because of Obama, I aspire to be a Banker.

    43. purplefart Says:

      I am a Viet Nam vet and I didn’t make it to the wall like 55,000 plus of my fellow Americans did. Another tradgedy bestowed on us by our elected lawmakers, politicians and trusted leaders of our great country. They decide and we go and die==or wish we had. This has gotten worse since the first world war. Myself and many other veterans of the wars we have fought will go to our graves wondering why our families suffered because of our losses whether we died or not because if we didn’t die in combat, we died when we came back and tried to make it in real life. I have a grandson but I wish I didn’t because life doesn’t change for people in this country–it just keeps getting worse and the people that ruin our great nation are much too powerful for us to control. We need to make this country what it was meant to be–something we can be proud of–something that our children will be proud of. We need to Unite.

      HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:

      TAPS!!! I’ll NOT Thermally Expand further sir!!! A/BTRY 101ABN Hua!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

      HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:

      Sorry,that would be 2/44 ADA!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

    44. A Mac Attack Says:

      Hey, (Rothschilds scam protectors) Bring your own first aid kit !!

    45. A Mac Attack Says:

      By the way bring your own lunch boxes to !!

    46. HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Says:

      MRE’s anyone???? Class 8 Veterans get NO service For their Service!!! WTF Over??? You healthy f---ers…well…f--- you!!! Nice!!! “Tin soldiers and Nixon’s Comin!!!” And if I EVER get my dickbeaters on a TROLLER…Assuredly you’re f---IN’ dead!!! I’ll feed the riverbank with your asses!!! On that note…”All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

      Elvis Reply:

      Boom chuka wa wa….

      Would you like fries with that ?

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      Youre on crystal meth arent you?

    47. Unite! Says:

      There are many that believe the power is with The People. Are you one of them?

      http://www.warnthepeople.org

    48. purplefart Says:

      MRE’s anyone???? Class 8 Veterans get NO service For their Service!!! WTF Over??? You healthy f---ers…well…f--- you!!! Nice!!! “Tin soldiers and Nixon’s Comin!!!” And if I EVER get my dickbeaters on a TROLLER…Assuredly you’re f---IN’ dead!!! I’ll feed the riverbank with your asses!!! On that note…”All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
      Hey Hillbilly how about some LRP’S or do you even know what that means? 101ABN? How about the 3rd of the 506th in Phan Thiet 1969. What’s this thermal expansion bulls--- and all this other negative s--- coming out of you?

      bebe Reply:

      Purple: I don’t understand what you said to Hillbilly, but I sure hope it shuts him up awhile. Thanks. Yours for 911 Truth

    49. potangent Says:

      I was drafted in 1968 off a job where I supported myself,my wife and first son. I was 20 yrs.old and doing what I was supposed to be doing to be a good citizen. My first son was 3 weeks old when I got on a plane for Nam. It was prison or Viet Nam. I worked for 33 years after I returned with disabilities[a choice I didn't have to] but now draw a little ofer $4000 tax free dollars per month and get all my medical and prescriptions free. I am pretty much immune to legal prosecution because they say I am crazy and no they did not take my guns. I own some big ones and some not so big ones and hardly ever miss.
      What is your adress Grump? I prefer discussing things in person.

    50. OIF Disabled Veteran Says:

      All those on this board saying that those who served, willingly participated in the NWO are cowards. Most vets, like myself, were completely blinded by the propoganda and enlisted for the protection of life, liberty and freedom for all Americans. Those who throw acuusations of dishonor at our country’s finest and bravest men and women, will be the same people begging for our help should the worst come to pass. If this president makes the decision to attack the disabled patriots of this country who served in foreign wars and in turn made extreme sacrifices, it will be his final undoing! To all verterans, disabled or not, I SALUTE YOU!

      Gabriel A. King Reply:

      Exactly! Anyone can be tricked by the propaganda- no matter how smart intelligent or not they are.
      I grew up believing all the bulls---. Salute the flag. America is good and free. etc etc

      Our soldiers are the victims of the corporate media and government liars, just like many of us were. We need our soldiers to learn the truth, and side with us against the treasonous New World Order which is using the American military for subversive purposes based on false flag terror and lies.
      This new legislation shows just how much the government cares about it’s soldiers- NOT A f---ING BIT. And remember when Michael Moore confronted the Senators on the way to work, and asked them if their sons were going to fight?

      Soldiers worldwide are viewed as pawns by the NWO, to be used. It’s time for soldiers of all countries to join the worldwide truth movement and fight the real battle-
      GOOD AGAINST EVIL

    51. fj Says:

      To report this as news only shows how ignorant the American people are about the daily abuse the veterans tolerate. The VA is the most ineffective, blatantly idiotic, evil, eugenicks focused organization this country has ever spawned. Anyone that has had the misfortune of being “seen” at a VA hospital or had to file for benefits can tell you that. I’ve been fighting these VA bastards for years. Its a fight you cannot win, they write the rules, they bend the rules, and they make it up as they go along and vets have NO recourse. Its a joke. My case would be open and shut in the “private sector” but because I have to use this bogus system full of beurocratic turds that couldn’t survive one day on a real job, I’m stuck in a perpetual hampster wheel of paperwork! I don’t even care anymore if they give me what I rightfully deserve, I intend to file, file, file, file, file, and refile and refile and refile, just to drown them in there own red tape. I have hopes that by doing so the shear weight of the work will cause one or two of these bastards to stroke out, have a heart attack, or something, just as their dirty tricks and BS has harmed me, my family, and every veteran I’ve ever known. The people are too stupid, too arrogant, too slothfull and pathetic to change this system and give vets what is needed and promised, but never seen. I’m unemployed from my injury but fixed myself and am looking for work, I’ve seen many jobs at the VA that I could do and my military service would count towards retirement. It would be a smart thing for me to work for them, but hate them so much and I hate what they represent, I’d rather choke on my own tongue!

    52. Unite!! Says:

      Fear or Freedom?!

      Now Choose!

      http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG

    53. They Says:

      The bottom line is:

      No matter which country we are invading and killing innocent woman and children in this week.

      WE ARE NOT WORTH MORE, AND THEY ARE NOT WORTH LESS.

      Think of the families of our so called enemies that get nothing but more death and destruction with their injuries.

      masterkyiron Reply:

      ya there the real terrorist the elite and there war monger puppet government killing innocent people!!!!!

    54. CBM Fan Says:

      This kind of says it all.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs

    55. The Duke Says:

      What a trash story, I must say, this Alex Jones is one big job. Now I must give him credit, for the way he grew prison planet, and infowars. Furthermore, he brought a lot of really stupid in the would out of the shade and into the light. I have asked Alex Jones to allow me time to speak with him on things that he report on his site since the hey day of the prison planet site, which was much better than the new infowars and prison planet site. Now i say, he grew by leaps and bounds, yet he does not give the real whole honest truth about the world today. There is no secret group trying to take control over the world and build a New World Order. The reason for that being false, is that we all ready control the world, and have a one world government. we have all was had a one world government, and controlled the world. Now you see the myth, of what Alex Jones talk about, most think the change is far off, but in reality, all of you have been controlled since the time you arrived in this world. We will continue to control you, because you are weak, and nothing with out us. We do not want control over the food supply, we all ready have control over the food supply. We do not want more control over the guns, we all ready control the guns. None of you make your own guns, you buy them from us. Now you see the real light. We do not want more control over you life we all ready have control over you life. Even Alex Jones depends on us, he is our dependent. LoL With out us Alex Jones is nothing, just another little piss ant. He makes us lots of money, by using our system, the same system that he hates. LOL, Come on Alex, tell the sheep the truth, Game over, Endgame ended in the 16th century. We gave you freedom only to re slave you. So if you want to live in this world, the best thing for you guys to do is just keep working with in the system, like good little children.

      Peace,
      The Duke

      masterkyiron Reply:

      11:11!!!!! you dont control s--- .its an illusion,life is short ass hole!!!!!

      masterkyiron Reply:

      and also we freedom guys are not controlled.you nwo ass sucking chemtrail babey spraying child f---ers are very controlled by DEMONS,you are satan spawn!the only control you have is a one way ticket to hell!!!!

    56. Call me "Da Prez" Says:

      Of co’se dese vets should pays fo’ dey care! No one made ‘em join da mutha’ f---in’ military! Dey shoulda’ ducked dem bullets fasta’!! It’s dey fault! It don’t matta’ if congress don’t pass dis s---, we just gonna’ sneak it into da’ next stim-u-lus package! Dat’s how we do s--- up in he’a. If you don’t like den call yo’ muthu’ f---in’ congress ‘ho!!

    57. Call me "Da Prez" Says:

      .

    58. cancon Says:

      I wish this bill would pass
      People would think twice about joining the US-SS

    59. Call me "Da' Prez" Says:

      Of co’se da’ vets should pay fo’ dey own care! No one made dem join da’ military!! Dey shoulda’ ducked dem bullets a little fasta’. It’s dey own damn fault. I’s gots ta’ make as many cuts as possible man, dis guvment is broke! Any mutha’ f---a’ wid half a brain knows dat Unka Sam don’t give a s--- ’bout da’ troops! You best keep joinin’ though, ’cause if you don’t, den we gonna’ have ta’ draft yo’ cracka’ asses. We gonna’ get you one way or the otha’!! Keep wavin’ dem flags sucka’s!!!!

    60. Gabriel A. King Says:

      This new legislation should be proof enough that the government doesn’t give a f--- about our US soldiers. SO f--- THEM!!!!!
      Join the worldwide truth movement against the real enemy- the New World Order, which controls and manipulates the pawns from all sides.

      We love all people, and US and other soldiers worldwide! We don’t want’ killing and war- that’s the fruit of the Beast. The US military needs to unite behind Alex Jones and the truth movement and help us fight the NWO together!
      THERE’S A WAR ON FOR OUR MINDS!!!! Seek and ye shall find- investigate what Alex and others are saying! “My people perish for lack of knowledge”…..

      The REAL enemy is ONLY the NEW WORLD ORDER. Study it- figure it out. God bless.

    61. ron Says:

      You should be thanking those (as you said tresonous Veterans) who put their lives on the line so IDIOTS like you can voice their opinion. I served my country in Vietnam and am proud to have done so. I would gladly do so again; if I felt it would serve the purpose that our forefathers originally intented for this Great country. Unfortunately there are many IDIOTS loike you who belieave our country is being lead in the right direction. Your ideals will fail and those of the original founders of this country will prevail.

    62. Northton Says:

      Veterans, please come and visit my Fox blog and share your wisdom with us.
      http://affiliate.kickapps.com/.....72667.html

    63. frak Says:

      Don’t know what happens on the weekends, but the weekend webbie always censors my edgy commentary, Seig Heil, Mein Moler…

    64. Marine4Liberty Says:

      Fire that V.A. goon. The Obama Admin has no gratitude for those now currently conscripted into the military. Granted they voulenteer, but when false advertising (fighting for freedom) is involved, it’s conscription. I know a ton of military that don’t want to carry out with this fascist globalist agenda. The times are near. Slander feels good, but it’s not right. Therefore, Obama. . . may God have mercy on your soul.

    65. Whatever Says:

      Those in charge: Your day is approaching!! Pack your lunch.

    66. vet4life63 Says:

      Ok, fair enough. I’ll pay for my own health care, and Obama and company can pay for theres. Thats cool. Just don’t forget to duck….or your bill is going to be HUGE. There are enough of us with GI issue ammo, etc….we’re coming for ya! Don’t support us? WE WILL WATCH YOU FALL. It is not a right, but a DUTY to replace a corrupt and Facsist Govt. Don’t think for a MINUTE we wont.

      YES WE CAN
      REPLACE TYRANNY ( IE KING O’BASTARD)

      bebe Reply:

      Thanks, vet4life. I feel better now. Yours for 911 Truth

    67. vet4life63 Says:

      Ok, fair enough. I’ll pay for my own health care, and Obama and company can pay for theres. Thats cool. Just don’t forget to duck….or your bill is going to be HUGE. There are enough of us with GI issue ammo, etc….we’re coming for ya! Don’t support us? WE WILL WATCH YOU FALL. It is not a right, but a DUTY to replace a corrupt and Facsist Govt. Don’t think for a MINUTE we wont.

      YES WE CAN
      REPLACE TYRANNY ( IE KING O’BASTARD

    68. CBM Fan Says:

      This kind of says it all……
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw5dP5gy2Vs

      Click on ‘CBM Fan’ to download it for free…

    69. Dale Says:

      This is a slap in the face. And yes I am a vet with service related issues. If this passes all the impacted vets need to file for workers comp in federal court.

      F-em all

    70. ArmySGT Says:

      If you’ve never been in combat then you need to shut the f--- up. Ive been to Iraq twice and will be going to Afghanistan before long and its all been for you stupid f---s that want to sit around bashing soldiers when you’re too big of f---ing cowards to do what we do. I guarentee you would’nt have the balls to say this s--- to my face. Now, I may not agree with all of the f---ed up things that our government does, but I dont fight for them. I fight for my family, my fellow Soldier next to me, and the people of America. If you dont have respect for the soldiers that fight for you then you need to get the f--- out of OUR country. CAUSE, WHAT THE f--- HAVE YOU DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY. You Soldier-Bashing f---S are lucky that you haven’t been paid a visit by a Soldier.

    71. bebe Says:

      My, my, don’t we have a temper! Listen, we “soldier-bashing f---s” have done one thing for our country and for our immortal soul’s salvation, we haven’t invaded, willy-nilly and without a moment’s serious reflection, sovereign nations who have done nothing to us.

      As someone commented, “didn’t you think it odd we were going to war with Iraq when 911 was purportedly carried out by Saudis?” I think the question has great merit, but I don’t expect you’ll take the time to think on it, you’re simply too busy huffing and puffing shepherds and babies down, aren’t you?

      The thing you have to ask yourself, but that would take some introspection, why are you so angry at us? We just want you to know the so-called wars are more precisely INVASIONS to make a tiny group indigestibly rich. So who are you, in fact, fighting for? Don’t you realize, after all these years, that 911 was an inside job? Have you done no research on FALSE FLAGS at all? Don’t you remember those Israelis dancing and laughing while filming the towers evaporate? Don’t you remember them on Israeli news saying they were there to “film the events”? What events? How did they know there would be an event? Then again, you’ve been “abroad” twice already and are packed and eager to go again, so you are a repeat offender. Wow!

      Put it simply, if I were going to inflict carnage on shepherds and babies and destroy thousand year old cultures, I’d make damn sure they were actually the enemy. But, obviously, you haven’t and you don’t. Incidentally, I think “a visit by a soldier” (soldier doesn’t take a capital) would be fine. If every soldier took the time to visit each one of “f---s” perhaps we might make him see the logic of our arguments. Be well wherever you may roam, but first sew the US flag on the right way. Yours for 911 Truth

    72. bebe Says:

      My, my, don’t we have a temper! Listen, we “soldier-bashing f---s” have done one thing for our country and for our immortal soul’s salvation, we haven’t invaded, willy-nilly and without a moment’s serious reflection, sovereign nations who have done nothing to us.

      As someone commented, “didn’t you think it odd we were going to war with Iraq when 911 was purportedly carried out by Saudis?” I think the question has great merit, but I don’t expect you’ll take the time to think on it, you’re simply too busy huffing and puffing shepherds and babies down, aren’t you?

      The thing you have to ask yourself, but that would take some introspection, why are you so angry at us? We just want you to know the so-called wars are more precisely INVASIONS to make a tiny group indigestibly rich. So who are you, in fact, fighting for? Don’t you realize, after all these years, that 911 was an inside job? Have you done no research on FALSE FLAGS at all? Don’t you remember those Israelis dancing and laughing while filming the towers evaporate? Don’t you remember them on Israeli news saying they were there to “film the events”? What events? How did they know there would be an event?

      Put it simply, if I were going to inflict carnage on shepherds and babies and destroy thousand year old cultures, I’d make damn sure they were actually the enemy. But, obviously, you haven’t and you don’t. Incidentally, I think “a visit by a soldier” (soldier doesn’t take a capital) would be fine. If every soldier took the time to visit each one of “f---s” perhaps we might make him see the logic of our arguments. Be well wherever you may roam, but first sew the US flag on the right way. Yours for 911 Truth

    73. stefan Says:

      My, my, don’t we have a temper! Listen, we “soldier-bashing f---s” have done one thing for our country and for our immortal soul’s salvation, we haven’t invaded, willy-nilly and without a moment’s serious reflection, sovereign nations who have done nothing to us.

      As someone commented, “didn’t you think it odd we were going to war with Iraq when 911 was purportedly carried out by Saudis?” I think the question has great merit, but I don’t expect you’ll take the time to think on it, you’re simply too busy huffing and puffing shepherds and babies down, aren’t you?

      The thing you have to ask yourself, but that would take some introspection, why are you so angry at us? We just want you to know the so-called wars are more precisely INVASIONS to make a tiny group indigestibly rich. So who are you, in fact, fighting for? Don’t you realize, after all these years, that 911 was an inside job? Have you done no research on FALSE FLAGS at all? Don’t you remember those Israelis dancing and laughing while filming the towers evaporate? Don’t you remember them on Israeli news saying they were there to “film the events”? What events? How did they know there would be an event? Then again you’ve been “abroad” twice already and are packed and eager to go again, so I’m talking to a repeat offender here.

      Put it simply, if I were going to inflict carnage on shepherds and babies and destroy thousand year old cultures, I’d make damn sure they were actually the enemy. But, obviously, you haven’t and you don’t. Incidentally, I think “a visit by a soldier” (soldier doesn’t take a capital) would be fine. If every soldier took the time to visit each one of us “f---s” perhaps we might make him see the logic of our arguments. Be well wherever you may roam, but first sew the US flag on the right way. Yours for 911 Truth

    74. stefan Says:

      My, my, don’t we have a temper! Listen, we “soldier-bashing f---s” have done one thing for our country and for our immortal soul’s salvation, we haven’t invaded, willy-nilly and without a moment’s serious reflection, sovereign nations who have done nothing to us.

      As someone commented, “didn’t you think it odd we were going to war with Iraq when 911 was purportedly carried out by Saudis?” I think the question has great merit, but I don’t expect you’ll take the time to think on it, you’re simply too busy huffing and puffing shepherds and babies down, aren’t you?

      The thing you have to ask yourself, but that would take some introspection, why are you so angry at us? We just want you to know the so-called wars are more precisely INVASIONS to make a tiny group indigestibly rich. So who are you, in fact, fighting for? Don’t you realize, after all these years, that 911 was an inside job? Have you done no research on FALSE FLAGS at all? Don’t you remember those Israelis dancing and laughing while filming the towers evaporate? Don’t you remember them on Israeli news saying they were there to “film the events”? What events? How did they know there would be an event? Then again you’ve been “abroad” twice already and are packed and ready to leave again, so I’m talking to a repeat offender here.

      Put it simply, if I were going to inflict carnage on shepherds and babies and destroy thousand year old cultures, I’d make damn sure they were actually the enemy. But, obviously, you haven’t and you don’t. Incidentally, I think “a visit by a soldier” (soldier doesn’t take a capital) would be fine. If every soldier took the time to visit each one of us “f---s” perhaps we might make him see the logic of our arguments. Be well wherever you may roam, but first sew the US flag on the right way. Yours for 911 Truth

    75. REDNECK WOMAN Says:

      1st I want to say that my uncle was a Vietnam vet, 2ND I want to say thank you for what all our service men and women have done for the USA. 3rd those one’s that r bashing the military!!!! one day u will need them and I hope they leave u dying and spit in your face!!!! 4Th I say take all the AIG money Soldiers and keep it for yourself. I have no problem paying for medical for our military. They deserve it!!!! All of those who don’t think so CAN KISS MY ASS.

    76. Jimi Says:

      Hey Grump,
      I would like to post your reponse at the VA hosplital. Do you think you could post your POBOX so the disabled vets could send you some mail? The statement you made is as bad as telling a rape victim they asked for it. Are you married to Jane Fonda?

    77. an army wife Says:

      It really hurts to know there are actually people out there that are so selfish to feel like a vetran should have to pay there own medical bills but yet i bet if you got hurt at work you would want to be taken care of, compensated in everyway possible. now times that by a thousand put a price tag on your arm or your leg, and please tell me if you would be brave enough to go over seas to know that your arm your leg or your life could be sacrficed for this country and know that if you come home alive the one that is supose to be supporting you one hundred percent of the way, our president, turned the other cheek on you. said thank you for your support but you arent a member because you have gotten hurt your useless and because of this the president refuses to pay. please everyone that agrees with this take a minute to think about how many lives were sacrificed how many children were left behind not to mention all the other family members and tell me you still feel this is right and if you still feel that this is right, God have mercy on your soul.

      an army wife of a good man serving in Iraq

    78. NotaCitizen Says:

      I tried to tell my brother why he shoud not go to Vietnam. He was young ,gung ho and brain washed ..My brother died age 34.. He was repeatedly sprayed with agent orange when serving in the millitary. The EVIL U.S. Government denied agent orange was toxic to humans..
      I MISS MY BROTHER

    79. Rudy Says:

      GRUMP are you for real or are you a terrorist in this great country called “America”? I’ve been deployed numerous times in my very close to 18 years of active duty service, luckily I have not been injured. If your not willing to honor and support those who serve this country (which you live in), then take your frivolous pennies to a 3rd world country of your choice and voice your “intelligent” opinions there!