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Obamacare: Get in Shape or Pay
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David S. Hilzenrath
The Washington Post
October 16, 2009
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
That’s a message more Americans could hear if the health care reform bills passed by the Senate Finance and Health committees become law.
By more than doubling the maximum rewards and penalties that companies can apply to employees who flunk medical evaluations, the bills could put workers under intense financial pressure to lose weight, stop smoking or even lower their cholesterol.
The initiative, largely eclipsed in the health care debate, builds on a trend that is already in play among some corporations and that more workers will see in the packages they bring home during this month’s open enrollment. Some employers offer lower premiums to people who complete personal health assessments; others offer only limited benefit packages to smokers.
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October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
They can kiss my ass, right after they suck my d.ck.
vitalpot.com Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Hell Yeah!
2 Way Street Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Dedicated Patriot – Does that mean you go both ways? Yikes!!!
phag Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
You are only gay if you are the one sucking the dick. Getting your dick sucked is just fine.
Nance Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
phag-You know, you can make a point without being so GROSS!!! It really doesn’t help your testimony one bit.
LOL Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
They have a right to freedom of spech. Let em talk.
Screw Omamma’s healthcare and the drug companies.
LOL Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Correction: “speech”
Say What Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Nance, Be like Obooma, bend over and take it like a real man ! LOL
Obama Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Hey fatass, go to the gym and stop the bitchen.
Harpo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Obama.. You better get your fat ass financial backer OPRAH into shape.. that fat black ho should be paying 100% more than the rest of us.
Howard H Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Yeah! And how about that fat-ass Surgeon General that was appointed. The elite will be able to eat all they want while the rest of us have to be defenseless 98 lb weaklings. Did you know that, according to the Body Mass Index that was put out by Fed-zilla in the 90’s, Tom Cruise and Sly Stallone are considered severely oiverweight. They want us weak.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:09 am
This is totally crazy. Monsanto stuffs all our food with these excitotoxins (MSG & Aspartame), which affect our brains telling us we haven’t had enough to eat, not to mention addictive and unhealthy. These are the only foods the poor can really afford – hamburger helper, mac & cheese, the dollar menus at the fast food places, etc. Good food costs money and when you’ve lost your job, it’s either cheap, unhealthy food or do without. For some in these situations, food is one of the few pleasures left – I mean, everyone likes to eat, right?
Then the govt tells everyone they have to meet certain criteria or pay up? How seriously screwed up is that?
I agree with you. They want us weak and helpless.
Jim Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Yeah, FreedomLover,
It’s like they put you in a round room and tell you to pi$$ in a corner.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
TOUCHE HARPO!!!! I’ll bet she’s gained and lost more weight than my whole family collectivelly weighs. And when are Caucasian women going to smarten up and STOP watching her BULLSHIT show???? She was one of the ones at the population reduction meeting along with Bloomberg, Ted Turner, Bill and Melinda Gates, etc. etc. etc. They watch her show and hang on her every word while she wants to get rid of them and their kids!!! What a bunch of A-HOLES!!!! If that was the ONLY show on tv, I’d NEVER even turn the tv on! I WOULDN’T OWN A TV!
Kat Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Wow harpo….racist much?
Malone Ducklo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Buckle Up.
Koyaanisqatsi Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am
very true that is absolute b/s, but then again, people should respect there bodies..
Red Dawn 09 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
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Abe Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Alex Jones will delete my comment when I criticize him, but he will let your idiotic comment stay. What a joke!
This type of comment of yours personifies Alex Jone’s audience…a bunch of wackos. Now go ahead and call me stupid and paranoid things like “cointelpro” for having my own independent thought! FREAKS! Yeah, I work for the CIA. You people are so brainwashed by the fear-mongering Alex Jones…
By the way, Jones is a fake Christian. Real Christians don’t fear-monger like Alex Jones does. They preach the Word of God that says: those who accept the Lord, do not need to be afraid of anything. The Lord’s will is the only thing that a true Christian should be concerned with.
Jones is not a good person and he is not on your side, unless your side is darkness and fear.
That does not mean that bad things are not happening…it means that fear is not the answer.
Alex Jones has a MAJOR flaw: he does not focus on SOLUTIONS; he focuses on PROBLEMS. He makes films and sells his product — FEAR. Wake up sheep. You don’t need a talk show host to lead you. You only need Christ and a bit of common sense.
And don’t get me wrong, I used to listen to Jones, until God revealed to me that fear is the absence of God. Therefore, Jones’ fear-mongering is not righteous and it is not helping anything. It is contributing to the problem. Help be the solution, not the problem!
May God bless you all! I pray for you.
American Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Let me ask you a question ABE: Do you think there were any “Real Christians” inside the World Trade Center buildings when they turned to dust or that jumped out the windows, on fire like a human torch? Do you think they were were afraid? And what about their grieving suffering families or the diseases of the suffering dying first responders?
You say you have no fear? Where were you people when prayer and decency was taken out of the schools? Where were you when they started teaching children how to put a condom on a cucumber? Will you sit by idle when they try teach your children how to defy the universal laws of gender and reproduction? or turn them into some sort of weird shadow of what they were designed to be? Do you think that there is not a danger in the world? Do you actually believe that none of this will have an effect on you? Do you have any concept of history?
Do you know that knowledge and information “is” power? What is the solution ABE? to sit by idle, in the comfort zone, while your house burns? Would you rather stay asleep until somebody fluffs a pillow over your face?
When you do nothing you become part of the problem, dead weight, because you allow evil to perpetuate itself and that’s the reason things have become so bizarre. I’m beginning to wonder what kind of a god you believe in anyway that you don’t care about anybody but yourself and want no part of responsibility. It’s like your living in a dream world of cotton candy, foo foo sermons where you relinquish all your power, ability to reason and then perform like a trained seal.
ABE? DO YOU FIX THINGS WHEN THEY BREAK? How much are you willing to take before you say enough is enough? Stick around a while and see if you can get the gist of what’s happening here.
American Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
ABE, you state….. “Jones is not a good person and he is not on your side, unless your side is darkness and fear.” “Jones is a fake Christian”
If Jones simply brings you the news and the news is not good then who is in darkness and spreading fear? Is it Jones for giving you the facts? or the one doing the dirty deed? People usually don’t fear things that are not a threat to them. If you are in danger and don’t know about it then you are also in darkness.
Abe, You state…. “God revealed to me that fear is the absence of God”.
I ask you … If someone creates a situation that causes fear and somebody else reports it to you, why would you kill the messenger? Don’t you see that the that the fear was created by the perpetuator of the dirty deed and that in them lies the darkness and absence of GOD so they are the guilty party that must be rejected not the person who brings it to your attention.
It is not Jones who wants you powerless and in darkness but the evil doers who want to keep you bound and controlled.
Jesus himself was called a devil because he defied the control freaks and power brokers of His day and tried to reveal the truth.
yellowhak1 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
ABE in other words, you’ve given up or should i say given in.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I’ll stay fat and stupid, stupid!
Obama Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
That’s fine bedcause under my care, you’ll be penalized.
Spikeman Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Typical Obamascum! Under my “care” you will be Euthanized!
Wilson Johnson Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
We wont need to be Euthanized because ManbearPig will kill us for him!
Liberty or death Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Stick it where the sun doesn’t shine, Barry! I don’t want your death care eugenics, or your modern ‘medicine’ big pharma poison! Oh, and I’m not paying any of your bs fines for non-compliance with your mandatory death care, either.
Thought Criminal Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 7:21 am
If you want lung cancer or have a stroke, do it now.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Drop medicaid, those on-it will be AUTOMATICALLY transferred to the National Database.
[DON'T TAKE THE MARK]
[PREPARE FOR WAR]
Abe Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Isn’t that sort of contradictory? Shall I assume that you will refuse the “mark” because you are Christian? Then why would you prepare for war? Isn’t that the opposite of standing strongly in defiance of conformity to denounce your Christianity? Also, do you believe that Christ wants you to kill or love your enemies? Maybe you need to read the Bible again. Refusing the “mark” and praying is what you must do. If you kill, you are working for the enemy, not for the Lord. If they take you, refuse the “mark” and be martyred. You will spend eternity with the saints. Or live by the sword and die by the sword. Again, you might want to re-read the Bible my friend.
God bless you all!
boneleg Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
The bible is sort of contradictory, Abe. It was written by man and translated by man. God is love, yeah right. Thats why you do what he says or he sends you to burn for eternity. “God-fearing” christians.. Why fear your own god?
American Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I have read the Bible ABE. You sound like a little boy in a man’s suite.
The saints are standing up for what’s right and telling the truth right here and now.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
i love ‘Christians’, who think they can just step-up, and tell me what-time it is…
On-step above a [m00k], but only by default of authority.
This IS ‘what time it IS’, please walk with me-
["GO, AND BUY A SWORD."]
["THERE IS A TIME FOR KILLING."]
COULD go-on, but i tire, and have to finish-up my communications center, (i think i’ll name-it “The Lid”)…
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TO “BONELEG”- (i’m forbidden from calling you ‘BONEHEAD”)- even so, understand THIS:
even-if: There were millions of men, and millions of years- the Living God woiuld have the Bible turn-out EXACTLY as He planned.
Google image:
Noah’s Ark/ Turkey/ Wyatt
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Red Sea/ Pharaoh’s chariots
Your decision to believe a lie, does not validate the veracity thereof.
Ciao’.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:42 am
FAT TAX!! WOO HOO!! ABOUT TIME!! I pay taxes on booze and smokes. Time for fat people to pay up for excessive eating, taking up too much space in the workplace, and not to mention all the extra fuel needed to lug their asses around. Being obese is disgusting and lazy.
L.B.H Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Well I don’t agree with the manner of which you are stating it….
I do agree your body should be your temple, and it should be a well oiled machine…
Start limbering up for the Revolution now people! We are going to need our strength, and speed. (not to mention our arms! )
Learnedthehardway2000 Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Joey, some individuals don’t eat any more, or even LESS than most people who are skinny. There are a lot of people who are overweight and find it difficult if not impossible to lose weight due to hypothyroidism (low thyroid). This slows down one’s metabolism quite a bit and makes it unfairly more easy to gain excess weight. Be careful of whom you discriminate against.
Jf Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Well said, hear hear. Thyroid issues are no laughing matter. To correct it, takes a lot of $$$$ every month.
JOEY Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Ok, a gland problem.. I will give you that, that’s a good excuse, BUT that should only account for about 1 percent of said fatties. And if Obesity is genetic, where are all the fat Africans?
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Joey, do some research. There are FAR MORE people with thyroid problems due to the crap that’s been injected into our bodies than is being reported. It’s not genetic. It’s caused by the depopulation proponents we are forced to live under. I’ve never seen so many grossly obese people in my life. Nor cases of MS, lupus, parkinson’s, and on and on. I’ve worked in the pharmacy at my store, and you should see all the “cures” people have to deal with because of the GMO stuff that the govt has literally shoved down our throats. Hundreds of different patented money-making meds, some costing as much as $100 a pill. I’ve seen people paying up to $600 for their prescriptions. Follow the money, pal. You’ll see where the problems are.
The mercury and squalene adjuvants in the vaccines cause autoimmune diseases. People suffer with arthritis, alzheimer’s, MS, thyroid and adrenal and pituitary problems, and a whole host of other nasties. Including autism.
http://www.msgmyth.com
Their strategy, make people sick, then cure them with big pharma, and when the side effects hit, cure them some more. This is psychopathologically sick.
Oh, and your cigarettes – do yourself a favor and throw them in the nearest trash can. They are loaded with additives that cause cancer. Why do you think 90 year old Indians could smoke and not die of cancer? Their tobacco was not grown in soil irradiated with nuclear fallout or had chemicals added.
Before you show prejudice against anyone, remember you’re not perfect yourself. These people have lives, personalities, needs and goals. Many of them are wonderfully loving people. Do you think they enjoy what they’re enduring? EVERYONE has something about them they wish they could change.
The Matrix Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
You can change your metabolism with your mind. There’s even evidence you can change your DNA and genes “don’t” rule as they once believed. You don’t have to inherit your parents diseases and miracles can happen instantly according to Quantum Physics. Your mind is so powerful that if we all were to wake up we could, collectively, laugh the NWO out of existence and they know it. That’s why they “program” you. They want you in a sick trance all of the time. I want you fully reconnected to the source of life.
To know the truth, is to be set free. You are powerfull beings.
All things are possible, to him who believes. You could and would even heal each other.
However, you have a right to live your life according to free will.
Take it Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:43 am
Hells yeah! Dr. Bruce Lipton baby!
Heather Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
sounds great, i do wish you would give the name of this theory (law) and maybe a website so i can look it up. thanks for the positive ideas we sure need it, while knowing the bad too. we are powerful and we have to be reminded of it.
BooBoo Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 8:50 am
That’s the principle expressed in the book The Secret. However, there’s one big flaw. God supercedes anything. You have to be in sync with God for this to work. And how it works is, you submit yourself and your will to God by following the 1st commandment best you can.
We ARE powerful, but only with God. You can’t remove that element from this priniciple. Christ gave the apostles power to heal…yes, we can heal.
Michelle Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The real issue with this is making private health care cheaper, which is massively needed. Basically what they are doing is making the people who don’t taking care of themselves pay more for the employee based health plan than the people who take much better care of themselves. Therefore the balance that is needed is there if there are too many people who don’t take care of themselves.
Let me put this out for you in plain terms. You have 1 person that smokes, you have 1 person who is 5′4″ and 300lbs, you have another who is 5′8″ and 130 lbs and doesn’t smoke. The person who takes very good care of themselves and is 5′8″ and 130lbs and doesn’t smoke will have to pay much less because they won’t need as much care as someone who smokes or someone who is 5′4″ and 300lbs.
It makes sense that the disparity of cost is greater between the people who are health and who are not. You can’t expect someone who jogs everyday, takes their vitamins and everything to pay near as much as someone who takes very bad care of their self and lives off of microwaved burritos. You made your choice not to be healthy, or you lost the genetic lottery and you can’t expect everyone else to pay for it.
Seriously, wait.... Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
In that last line, what you are basically saying is that, because you are born a certain way, you have to pay more to get more care? I didn’t ask to be fat. I didn’t have much of choice and now it’s a bitch to get healthy again. The last time I was a normal weight, I was 7. I’m trying to lose weight for myself, not for fucking Obama or anyone else but only for myself. I don’t want to pay more if, while exercising, I break or rupture something.
off_thegrid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Michelle you self righteous bitch.
People should not be discriminated because of weight or any other physical attribute.
Some of these overweight people would probably have a cardiac by exercising.
Everyone has a right to medical and dental; after all we are all human beings.
First it was smokers, then drinkers, and now fat people.
What is next? Outspoken people?
So again stick it up your self righteous ass!!!
Take it Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:45 am
No one is born with the right to dental care….retardo.
off_thegrid Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:22 am
Listen asswipe, last time I checked teeth were part of the body.
It’s retards like you who think they aren’t.
A lot of countries include dental in basic medical, you stupid fucken American.
Michelle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:59 am
You people really are living in a dream world. I have MS, i smoke, i need dental care badly, but i realize that this is my problem and i can’t expect others to pay for it. So get your head out of your ass and stop expecting others to pay for your problems while saying you don’t.
And yes “Seriously” it is still for yourself if you want to get healthy. If you are more sickly than others you have to pay more. WTF is wrong with this reasoning?! You’re all a bunch of double talkers that want other people to pay for your problems, and your unluckines. You say you don’t want others to pay for your problems and that socialized medicine is terrible, but you complain when you are forced to pay more for your care if you are more unhealthy than others.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too people.
But of course, for accepting the responsibility for paying for my own health issues i’m a self rightous bitch….
BooBoo Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:04 am
Michelle, how long have humans been around? How long has health insurance been around?
You’re missing the whole point. Insurance was created in the first place because people couldn’t afford medical treatment at all. People were at one time, able to afford it. They didn’t have health insurance, say, in colonial times. The insurance industry made money off of everything, and since they pay out, other medical industries began to raise prices. It’s not a question of caring for people – it’s an infrastructure created gradually in worship of the almighty dollar.
Now to get people on board with the idea of government run health insurance, the propaganda is to make everyone think like you do: that human beings are draining each other. Everything is being made the fault of humans. The elite hate humanity. Look at how they want to tax people for breathing (carbon), or tax couples for having more than one child. Having “too many” children now is considered “irresponsible”. How much can we regulate the condition of LIFE but not fully regulate these abusive industries?
It is communist thinking to dispararge human rights for the good of ‘the state’. ‘The State’ is being tauted as the collective many.
So if you don’t live “perfectly”, i.e., have the perfect BMI and don’t smoke, etc, you get penalized. You shouldn’t be penalized for being HUMAN. Besides, what about people who have conditions which they are not responsible for that requires more health care/ treatment? What about kids with cancer? Should we make those parents pay more in health care premiums because of that?
Look, you pay for health insurance and the idea is that the health ins. company covers you. THey don’t want to cover people. If they covered everythign they should, they wouldn’t be as rich as they are. Don’t forget, for everything they pay out, that’s less profit for them.
The insurance co’s need regulation, but instead of doing that, the government is letting the industry fail people so that everyone will want government run health insurance. That’s because once it’s government run, then the government will have more intrusion into our lives. Again, they don’t care about our health. They only care about money and control. That’s the MO of everythign the elites do, and health care is no exception.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
well glory be to God it is about time system encouraged people to take care of themselves
right now system says go ahead eat junk food get fat get sick we will fix you up at somebody Else’s expense
look at your fat asses ! aren’t you ashamed of yourself ? you lazy bums
Josh F. Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
So.. what you’re saying is… the government should have MORE control over people’s free will..
hmm.. or maybe survival of the fittest was thought up for a reason. If people can’t control their weight, etc.. most likely, they won’t survive long.
I on the other hand, eat whatever I want and do not gain weight.
If you think that the government should be telling people that they have to pay if they are over weight, you are a fucking moron and should be euthanized.
Free will is a blessing and I’ll be damned if I let some retards try and take that away.
We already have them governing us and ticketing us over drugs and SEATBELTS. Both of which do harm to OURSELVES… it’s none of the governments business if we want to hurt our own bodies.. they just aren’t allowed to do it for us.
Michelle Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Not control over free will….if you eat awful and don’t take care of yourself then you made your choice, and you are going to pay a higher health care cost because of it…just because you made a choice, doesn’t mean there aren’t any consequences … it’s common sense people
Seriously, wait.... Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Yes you dolt, it is control over free will. Forcing or coercing someone to do something that they don’t want to do means you have control over them and subsequently their free will. The consequences of being unhealthy are much more than paying more, it’s about that person’s quality of life. If they want to eat and smoke and drink until they die, that’s their business. They shouldn’t have a GOVERNMENT making them pay more if they get sick. But what if down the line they want to get healthy? They are fucked because they are already unhealthy and the proposed system would DISCRIMINATE against them!!!!
Michelle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:22 am
actually, what is stated in the article is that if you do well in the physicals, which would mean that you are taking better care of yourself, you pay less already. So your logic is unfounded
Michelle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:23 am
and ps. The government isn’t making people pay more, it’s the corporation…the gov is just giving the corporation the ability to make the choice.
Nance Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Michelle-That’s true to a certain extent, but as those above stated, some people do have what is termed HYPERTHYROIDISM. The government has NO RIGHT to tell people what they should or should not eat. I mean, people keep telling them that they don’t want to take their poisonous vaccines, but are they listening? Obama and his “BAND OF MERRY MEN” are a bunch of hypocrites!
off_thegrid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Michelle, common sense?
You deluded ignoramus.
What we eat is our business not the government’s.
You should be more worried about the fucking wars your government is starting all over, than about people being fat.
Michelle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Wow, who knew having people pay more if they were unhealthy was just such a bad thought. This nation is very unhealthy, mostly because of that choice. I’m not going to pay more because i’m more healthy than another person, and i’m not going to expect to pay less than another person who is healthier than me. And if i make a choice, eg. smoking, that is known for a fact to cause health problems, then i accept the responsibility to pay more. It’s common sense.
The system as it is right now won’t work, because all the tards who think it’s smart to live off of pizza and french fries are making it more expensive (not to mention the greed of the health care industry). The disparity is not there.
Your health is your problem, and what you do with it is your issue. That is still the case. But you are going to pay more because of it. If you don’t see that, then you live in a dream world.
BooBoo Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:08 am
Who ARE these people that eat so awful anyway?
Hmmm…it’s the kids whose moms went back to work because Obama calls for mothers to go back to work. It’s the families who can’t live off one paycheck anymore.
Anyone ever take a look at homeless people? Ever see one that’s NOT fat? Hmmm…they get fed state food in shelters.
You guys have got to stop believing the brainwash that people are bad. That’s what this thinking amounts to.
Our economy, our engineered food, mislabled ingredients and things allowed by the FDA ….it’s all made to make our bodies sick. THE ELITES make us unhealthy, then want to tax us for it.
Do you guys NOT read all the articles in here and understand what’s going ?
Learnedthehardway2000 Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Well…let’s just see how YOU LOOK AT AGE 50!!!!!!
Learnedthehardway2000 Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
The above reply was meant for SUP.
billy Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
The fat-asses may survive longer than the rest of us in the comming Apocalypse… Kind of like camels storing energy in their humps LOL…
Take it Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:47 am
Highly unlikely. Quite funny though.
off_thegrid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
sup you are a ignorant ass!!!!!!!!
Most likely a fucking Commie by the sounds of it.
Michelle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:08 am
lmao….he’s a commie! a commie! what is this the 70’s?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Just another way to get rid of the so called useless eaters. Don’t give them health and they end dying because they can’t get treated for their sickness. Next will be if you don’t get your vaccines you will pay a higher premium because you are more likely to get sick. The ones who get the shot will get sick from the shot and have to pay higher rates as well.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
WELL SAID!!!!! They’re gonna screw you no matter what!!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:53 am
They can kiss my FAT ASS…….
October 16th, 2009 at 11:53 am
The fat sheeple eat their poison food and wander through life in a daze, ignorant of their complicity in murder.
Want to Wake Them Up?
Print this off, put it in their mailboxes.
Bring their guilt home to them.
http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com
October 16th, 2009 at 11:57 am
This is probably the one and only aspect of Obama care I support. Heck, the anchient Spartans had mandatory fitness, lol.
Josh F. Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
you’re a poor excuse for a soldier… so much for fighting for freedoms.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Why dont we just shoot the fat people and we dont have to treat them? Fuck you OBama Hate YOu!
jerseygirl Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Why don’t they stop putting SO MANY additives in the foods which have proven to help to make people fat, example: phenylalanine in DIET SODA which has been PROVEN to INCREASE THE APPETITE!
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:33 am
http://www.msgmyth.com
This will freaking scare people to death. And just maybe if we stop buying their garbage and begin cooking for ourselves, we just might turn this thing around. I’m trying to do that, but it’s very difficult not to stop at a fast food joint after a hard day’s work.
swizeet Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Good site…thanks!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:58 am
I have to admit that in Amercia, if I actually see a thin, in shape woman, I do a double take. They sure are rare in America…
billy Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
There are SO many people in the US that are technically obiese that this has become another way to reduce the insurance coverage by passing costs on to the average fat joe consumer…
Riddik Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
you must live in the south.
Mid West Woman Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:06 am
I WILL turn your head and I’m 61.
I exercise, avoid all the garbage foods, cook from scratch and drink spring water. Try ro take responsibility for your own health in this toxic world we live in. Read every label. Keep your diet simple. And fight the NWO
October 16th, 2009 at 11:58 am
and, yes in shape conservatives tend to be rare, lol.
Josh F. Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
again… poor excuse for a soldier.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:59 am
What about my FAT DICK? It will have to loose some weight too?
LOL Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
No, that’s OK
October 16th, 2009 at 11:59 am
in shape conservative men are rare. If you see a really muscular man, you usually automatically assume he is a homo-sexual.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
no more chicken or pig or bk or micy d’s no more ribs no more choice…change is great isnt it SUP?
October 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Its a great idea but its not going to give the( in shape people)less of a bill, just more for that fat people, Just like in Massachusetts even though only 5% of people aren’t insured the rates have not gone down.
I just wonder how many more taxes it will take to have the 85% tax rate they want.
Just to drive a car; Sales tax, yearly excise tax, gas tax , and toll roads which i consider road tax, and when they get the carbon tax though that will be 5 taxes just on your right to travel.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
This is a great idea. Promoting more exercise, healthier eating, quitting smoking and other ideas to prevent health problems is something we should be doing. Since you cannot appeal to reason with idiot Americans, the best thing to do is offer them monetary incentives, because like the people in the movie Idiocracy, the American people “Like money.” Please, spare me the nonsense about how it impedes on your freedom, or how this is tyranny. This is good policy, and if you don’t like it, you can keep treating yourself like a bag of crap and not get the discounts.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
common—no, its not a good idea. Sure, being healthy is, but you can’t force it, because thats tyranny. That makes you a slave. Slavery is freedom. Oh yeah. Common sense ain’t so common.
Learnedthehardway2000 Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
You’re right. Common sense is no longer so common. It’s died a horrible death in 2009!!!
off_thegrid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Common Sense: To bad you have zero…asshole.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
This is bs i’m am in good shap but i’ll be damn if i want to get fat as a whale who cares as long as i work and support myself to hell with big brother
October 16th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
we should all become super fat so wen the army comes to pull us out of our homes theyll need like 7 guys to crane our fat ass out of our beds hehehe then we can be naked and that would just add insult to injury. but on a seriouse note wats wrong with making people get healthy this is just more encouragement but i dont think they should have to pay for it thats wrong its a right to be fat but its not a healthy right
October 16th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Whatever happened to freedom to choose?
billy Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
When we are all “caught up in the air” in the radioactive mushroom cloud of friggin Armageddon, that is the choice we are given…peace-out…
Yuri Prime Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Interesting take on the rapture! I like it!
p.s. “It will be a silent spring”
October 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Wonder if they are going to take stress into consideration? I think more people die worrying about how they look than from being overweight!
“O” is causing me stress. Can we outlaw him???? I wish!
October 16th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Man the Harpoons!
October 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I’ve been saying this stuff for months. They do not have to discriminate on the premiums. They will control you of the use of the RFID microchip. They will tax you.
See my blog and see how this healthcare reform is a hoodwink for slavery and how it erodes our liberties.
http://theregulatorsvigilancec.....o-american
October 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
After they taxed cigarettes, they stopped. I think everyone in this dictatorship needs to be penalized. Everyone over 200 for women and 250 for men needs to pay a fat tax. They are eating three times what a normal person eats and shitting out the same.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Based on what you just typed, you are completely ignorant. Do some research before you post garbage like that. You win first prize for kicking people when they’re down.
You think that this is ALL caused by people’s choices? Man, you’re as deluded as the rest of the sheep. America – AND the rest of the world has been “programmed”. Look at the sizzling commercials – literally. Make you want to go out and stuff your face, even if you’ve just had dinner. The additives in the food go straight to the brain and affect the appetite triggers so they malfunction. Yep, super-size your meal. Pour those dollars into Monsanto’s pockets – and ultimately into the “elite” bank accounts.
I have to admit, I’m making wiser choices in my later years. But before I turned off the TV 10 years ago, I was victim to the propaganda too.
First of all, people need to wake up. There is a destructive agenda going on behind their backs. They are not aware of it. When they begin to see it, they can do something about it. But it’s not going to work with people bashing them for the way they look. Man judges based on outward appearances, but the Lord looks on the heart!
October 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
the real way to enlightment is self denial.if something possese’s you,it’s better to circumvent it.it’s been a winter or 2 since i’ve touched a woman.can a man reclaim his virtue?i guess i’m saving up to be a monk.i worry not.god will provide in his time,the celestial bodie’s will be in perfect alignment.i won’t even see it coming.not a moment to soon not a moment to late.my heart is anxious only for my lord.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Go for it, MAN! Run the race as the Lord would have it. You’re not saving up to be a monk. You’re saving up your virtue so that when God gives you a wife, you’ll present her with a godly man. You’re a hero, and heroes are hard to find these days.
I too am celibate. Waiting, but not focused on it because it may not happen. I don’t miss it, either. My mind is centered on other things – God first of all. I have to answer to Him for my virtue.
Ok, here come the party bashers – I can hear their mockery from a distance.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
lucifer is a cheap mockery his day’s are numbered.all yeah, moa employed the talent’s of the cossack’s.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
This is a double standard. I saw someone posting about the additives in fods, what about that? How can you tell a nation to get fit when you’re supporting the supply of the poor quality food they are consuming? Fast foods, GMO’s, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Hydrogenated Oils to name a few.
It’s F***ing madness they’re putting us up to. It’s like, “Hey, i’m gonna ask you to behave this way, but on the fly, i’m gonna act in every way possible to make it an undoable feat.”
If you want people to get thin stop feeding them garbage, promote health campaigns which denounce poor health habits. I could see obama in a McDonald’s commercial at the rate of publicity and shame he’s going at. It just doesn’t make sense to me to propose these types of laws when you are clearly the one making the people obese.
paully Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
hmmmm, your right they do make us fat and they don’t like us know how to eat properly, they can make money on us being unhealthy cows with the big pharma, now they can surcharge your body for not being correct.
swizeet Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:27 am
I think you just nailed it paully!
billy Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Yeah, it’s like a crack dealer telling customers to put down the pipe. There is little difference between an illegal drug dealer and an overbearing government.
Nance Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
billy-You got that right.
off_thegrid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Greg von Haesler , well said sir.
Greg von Haesler Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Thank you.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Greg, you absolutely hit the nail on the head. People can’t do anything to change this until/unless they know what the problem is. That’s why it is so important to get the word out in a sensitive and gentle way. How many people are hurting over the way they look and feel – and turn to food for comfort? The govt wants it that way, so people will just roll over and comply with whatever mandates the “elite” decide to dish out. Bunch of godless, uncompassionate, money-grubbing goons.
Greg von Haesler Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:09 am
I agree, you can’t speak the truth unless you deliver it tactfully, honestly, and with a little compassion. I mean, obama does smoke after all. There has to be some consideration being taken for people’s health these days.
swizeet Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:28 am
BRAVO!!
October 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
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October 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I am 5′10″ and weigh 237lbs with 11% body fat, but I would still be considered overweight by their standards. On that basis, I will have to insist they “piss off”.
Take it Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Those are impossible numbers. I don’t agree with obamacare at all, but those numbers are silly.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I saw this shit coming over 25 years ago,when in order for an insurance company to underwrite any workforce,mandatory drug screening of any new hires was required .
We let them in,but they have us so tapped out and wrung to the point of being hollow,that there is very little chance we can kick them out again.
They need the boot,along with any government agency that benefits from their activities.
So what do you think I’m getting at?.
Shhhhhhh.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Yeah, but you’ll get a discount if you keep all the UPC codes from your Soylent Green.
billy Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
What about the Soylent Yellow & Soylent Red…? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE
October 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
A “fat tax” per se??
A good idea!?? forcing people to get healthy?? Are some of you serious?? Guess some people don’t believe in FREE WILL anymore.
Pretty soon we’ll being doing calisthenics in front of our tele-screens every morning for big brother.
You NWO supporters make me fucking sick. Its because of people like you they pull this kind of shit off.
I would slit your throats with a smile.
billy Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
View your telescreen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
jim Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I wonder if anyone who enforced the drug war in the prior decades is beginning to have regrets forcing and thus programming a whole generation that this kind of regimental conformity was normal?
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Not to mention airbrushing bodies that are flawed and making people dissatisfied with who they are. Holding up models of perfection that no human being could possibly attain without starving themselves, plastic surgery or other artificial means.
I think maybe we should begin liking what God made when we look in the mirror and turn off the “damn” TV – better yet, use it for a boat anchor. Look at each other and quit expecting perfection. Then go out and take a walk with your spouse and kids, buy a bike, read good books, listen to good music. Cook from scratch. A good beginning, maybe?
October 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I guess it is time to quit working, quit paying my mortgage, close my bank account and walk away from all of it. do day labor only like the mexicans for cash, rent somewhere and stop being part of their system. stop being a slave. Don’t know if it is true or not but read an article that this healthcare bill will cost 6500 per person so for a family of 4 it is over 25,000 a year. i don’t know about you but i don’t have that much money to spare.
Since they offer a jail sentence for anyone without the forced healthcare i wonder if that isn’t really what is all about. slave labor. They can arrest almost everyone. put them in their fema camps and use them for slave labor. give them the excuse they need huh?
Since Americans are more then willing to accept it i guess the entire country will be one big slave labor camp. Since most everyone will end up in jail for not paying that means they can use those people to manufacture things like they do in the prisons today. for a nickel an hour or some such thing.
What ever happened to the spirit of liberty in this country? Why have we allowed this to even be discussed. It’s over folks time for the fat lady to sing!
Highlanderess Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
It burdens your heart when you witness the demise of your country and freedoms.
Riddik Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Back in the 90’s in Pendelton OR at EOCI (a state run prison) the inmates began making a brand of denim jeans called “prison blues”. They sold really well and human rights organizations and large clothiers (levi) stepped in and put a stop to it because they couldn’t compete with “slave labor.” I wonder if the same is true now.
Mmm Mmm Mmmmmm Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Spirit of Liberty is stll alvie, Baby
October 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I wouldn’t have as much of a problem with this if it were up to individual insurance companies instead of being forced across the board. Also, if they offered a reduced rate to people who eat a well balanced diet of natural, non-GMO food and get lots of excercise. Keep the rates the same as now for everyone else.
A thin body is no indication of health. Anorexia, anyone?
I am what “they” consider obese, however I look great (chubby, but great) and I don’t get sick. I couldn’t tell you the last time I needed medical attention. BMI is bullshit, they don’t take into account that some people have the shoulders of a linebacker, the hips of a quaker, and the boobies of– well, big ones.
Oh and another thing, what about people who undergo risky cosmetic surgery? They are constantly at risk for requiring medical attention if something leaks, bursts, disintegrates. Also stuntmen, extreme sports athletes, race car drivers, mountain climbers, even people who work at the zoo feeding the lions. They are at high risk too.
This is a bad idea. A really bad idea.
If I want to be influenced on how to eat or excercise I’ll watch a Richard Simmons video, thank you.
Riddik Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Interestingly enough, all of the things you mentioned are taken into account for health insurance BUT the cosmetic surgery. I will never understand why people willingly take their lives into their (or their anesthesiologist’s) hands and accept a completely unnecessary surgery. I can understand reconstructive surgery for accident and burn victims and the like, but the rest? Meh.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
economic slim fast is on it way. people won’t be able to afford to buy the cookies, ice cream, cakes and such. Buying bread will tough enough. Remember, it’s a depression!
GFS39884 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Yep! That is right! The sweet stuff will be heavily taxed, they are coming out with a sugar tax this 2011. Damn you NWO! You NWO people better stop ruining kids and adults birthday parties!!!
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:05 am
The sugar tax is on sugar. They are not taxing aspartame, hfructose csyrup (which, incidentally is made from petroleum products – not corn – yecch!) or any other artificial sweeteners that are literally excitotoxin poisons.
We’ve been duped into believing that artificial sweeteners are healthy and will help us lose weight – when the exact opposite is true. Real sugar and honey in moderation is good.
http://www.msgmyth.com
One final point on this. Sugar is a natural product. Monsanto and the other manufacturers can’t patent it, therefore, they can’t make money on it UNLESS they tax it!
roaddog6 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
freedom—where did you find that hfcs is made with petroleum products? I can’t find that info. I found the study from ‘05 about the mercury(if that ain’t bad enough), but not the other. Please post your link. thanx.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
My bad. I passed on info without verifying it. Sorry. Came from a friend, and I neglected to ask him where he got his info.
My limited research, though, indicates that the same corn used in ethanol is used for hfcs. Still IMHO, GMO corn is not good for anybody. My system doesn’t fare well on corn.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
The problem is not so much that “corn is evil” – it’s the lack of diversity and moderation in our diets. Grab a Big Mac, Fries and a Coke. The following ingredients have some form of corn: the Bun (HFCS), the Coke (HFCS), the Fries (corn oil), the Ketchup (HFCS and corn syrup), the Big Mac Sauce (HFCS, Hydrolyzed corn), the cheese (corn starch). That leaves the beef patty – made from beef that was fattened with… corn.
However – it gets worse. A newly released study looked into Genetically-modified corn (Scientific American). The research showed that rats fed Monsanto’s MON863 maize showed “signs of toxicity” in the liver and kidneys (see abstract).
This is from:
http://www.diet-blog.com/archi.....ou_eat.php
A diet high in corn products (including hfcs), not balanced, is not a good diet.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
freedom—thanx—hfcs is poison regardless. Brings on diabetes and obesity among other health issues. And they litually put it in everything. In the past they would make us sick and sell us the cure. Now they just want us dead.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Fat people, old dependant people, handicapped, people below a certain IQ, People of persistant criminal tendances etc. Sounds familiar? Goodbye America, hello Nazi Garmany.
I knew an enormous fat lady once who had achieved outstanding service to the education system. A world without fat people would be boring. They allow the rest of us to be grateful we have full mobility and don’t suffer the swollen legs, bad back etc that they usually do.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
the fat tax what a scam!
October 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
The unhappy zombies in control of the empire love to feed on greed.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
If they pass codex alimentarius this dec 31st, then it’s going to be virtually impossible for fat people to lose weight given their complete inability to ever allow the body to shed weight, because the body will hold onto it’s fat reserves as long as deficiencies exist.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
your mothers so fat,,,,,she can’t get health care.
your mothers so fat……when she gets skin cancer they consider it a free liposuction.
your mothers so fat…..she dies early and forgets to put you in her will. owwww, budumbum
your ……..
October 16th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Stop eating nasty shit and stop buying things you dont need; that’s how you defeat the NWO
Highlanderess Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Yeah, especially Buger King. They serve the crap that makes you obese, then will turn around in a heartbeat and make a commercial insulting you on being “chunky”. Bastards.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Making people pay is taking it too far and is easily seen as corrupt and I agree. But I think it’d be a good idea for americans to refuse the sugar, calorie and cholesterol rich junk foods they’re forcing into our sites and getting us addicted to. It’s time for people everywhere to worry about their health. No one has to look like a supermodel, but should at least be able to run or jog four laps around the track without having a heart attack. Also, smoking is simply handing ones money to the government, throw a wrench in their plans by looking to health. Makes it easier to fight if we need to as well.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
you see?
indications have been there already
in Australia kids are fed up with cartoons
picturing ‘fat kids’ as danger to the environment
on planes you get a feeling of being criminalized because of overweight
whereas overweight often is an illness not a bad habbit
and cholesterol is another margarine lie
a german doctor(among so many others, not able to peak out free) showed all this cholesterol hype is again spread by BigPharmaMonster
this law will bring profits to the medical killing machine never seen before
October 17th, 2009 at 12:34 am
NWO, Eating healthy is too damn expensive! Eating fatty foods is cheaper just look at the Ramen noodles they have alot of fat in them. I gained weight from damn Ramen noodles. Peanut
Butter and Jelly makes you fat. Chips makes you fat but they affordable. Eating a salad, grapefruit, fish, cucumbers, lettuce, tomatoes > EXPENSIVE! Look at the food prices! Take you Fat Ass tax and get the hell out of here!
off_thegrid Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:26 am
QFT.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Well said, GF. Go as natural as you can. I’m losing weight slowly by making small changes. Is it easy? NO, IT’S DAMNED HARD, thanks to the constant barrage of advertising, the chemtrail fallout that has chemicals in it, my screwed up drinking water and my ruined thyroid (from vaccines in the army.)
For my service to my country, I got screwed. Thank you, NWO scumbags – for NOTHING!
swizeet Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:30 am
NO shit…you never see any $.99 salads w/vinaigrette.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Because obviously every overweight person is unhealthy. Obviously.
We should be taking on a Health at Every Size approach to things, and ignore the numbers on the scale. BMI =/= sole indicator of health.
October 17th, 2009 at 4:54 am
I have to agree with GFS39884, eating healthy is VERY expensive. I can go and purchase $100 worth of healthy groceries for myself and barely make it through the week with it. We have a system that pretty much forces us to purchase piss poor quality foods, that is the reality. I have no kids so I can only imagine how it must be for parents to feed an entire family healthily. I exercise regularly and eat clean, however I do so for personal reasons and I definitely don’t believe that the next person should be penalized for not doing the same. Funny how weight is a health issue but the tons of side effects that come with pills these pharma companies put out are not. I mean, I might be misinformed, correct me if I’m wrong.
swizeet Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:32 am
You’re right. When my wife and I started a vegetarian diet we were blown away at the increase in our weekly grocery bill. We made the commitment to start growing and preserving as much food as we could. It worked! We save $100+ monthly…it’s a start!
Grow your own food people.
antigov Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
growing you own food is good … that is until they ban that too …
antigov Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
correction …”growing your own food”
October 17th, 2009 at 7:45 am
This is outrages. Health plans like these can push people away from getting health care they need creating the same problem we are trying to correct.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:04 am
“Dedicated Patriot Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
They can kiss my ass, right after they suck my d.ck.”
Well then you will have no coverage and can rot on the vine. Patriot? Terrorist?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
and if you poop more than once a day…tax that too
swizeet Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:33 am
no shit?
October 17th, 2009 at 11:43 am
I’ve been saying this for months. They are going to tax and we will pay through consumption.
They need the RFID.
SEE my blog for the whole article. I am no scientist or genius. But come on people you all seen this coming!
THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN HEALTHCARE REFORMATION AND ITS COMPONENTS
Once enrolled onto the government reformation healthcare the healthcare professionals and physicians can or will dictate your diet of how much and what you are allowed to consume for the good of self health, humanity and its current and future labor force. A new government tax through the use of the RFID microchip will have knowledge if you or your family’s diet is healthy or unhealthy. As they can and will charge you additional taxes for the amount of consumption of calories, carbohydrates, fatty acids, added syrups, fertilizers, pesticides and other ingredients. You can expect such additional taxes on items such as: alcohol, beverages, meats, poultry, tobacco, junk food and candies. A value added tax on everyday items that considered essential such as; household, stationery, clothing, infant supplies, gardening, hardware, automotive maintenance and repairs, toys, cosmetics and sporting equipment.
The list of additionally taxed items will grow larger for the cost of expansive healthcare reformation and to cover projected budgets as the demand for taxation and increased revenue extraction from the patient and citizens will increase. Our standard of living will decrease into a third world class economy as we will be even more dependent on governmental assistance as a principal provider.
You could be and will be taxed just by how much oxygen you, your family, pets and if you own livestock breathe. As dioxide is exhaled creating and calculating your carbon imprint onto the environment. Once pregnant you and your spouse will pay dearly and heavily.
http://theregulatorsvigilancec.....o-american
October 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Believe me; if you eat a simple, whole foods diet, excericise at a moderate level, and get enough rest, you will feel so much better. Americans eat way to much junk. I wouldn’t even consider it food. There are so many additives in these food-like products that we shove down our throats. It’s ridiculous. I am a personal trainer and I love getting people in better health a shape and see their progress. It takes hard work, which is a commodity that few Americans have anymore. As much as I disagree with our Kenyan President, he is right about the fact of a healthier America will mean fewer hospital visits. Sucks, but it’s true.
Michelle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
fewer hospital visits and cheaper private insurance premiums! ^.^ … which is needed if you don’t want socialized medicine
October 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
“Obama will make you work. He will never allow you to go back to your old way of life” – Michelle Obama, Marxist First Lady
October 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
This is medical fascist pigs, think they can actually work this health bill. first we ar vaccinated at baby time and through our childhood, causing i’ll bet over 80% of our present auto immune and overweight problems. they are just irrational after thinking they can penalize us, after vaccianting us with cancer viruses and every fucking thing else since the 60’s. now get penalized for being overweight, after the mad scientists caused it in the first place ? what a LOAD OF ARROGANT CRAP. LOL
October 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am
While you-all are yelling at yourselves, you miss the issue.
“The initiative, largely eclipsed in the health care debate, builds on a trend that is already in play among some corporations and that more workers will see in the packages they bring home during this month’s open enrollment. Some employers offer lower premiums to people who complete personal health assessments; others offer only limited benefit packages to smokers”
O.K….
Read THIS:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/n.....89142.html
“ASHBURN, Va. — Desiree Jennings thought it would be a good idea to get the seasonal flu shot. Her job offered incentives for it, and she didn’t want to get sick.”
Did you catch this? HER JOB OFFERED INCENTIVES FOR IT!
I wonder if her ‘JOB’ will be paying for her care for the REST of her LIFE?
October 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I certainly don’t want the government doing this, but at the same time I am tired of paying higher costs for things like health insurance, car insurance and anything else that lumps irresponsible people into one size fits all “no fault” type systems. I have done the responsible thing and have lost a lot of weight. I pay my bills so I can avoid high interest rates. I drive responsibly so my insurance can stay low. I guess being a responsible person is suddenly not a virtue ?
October 18th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Amen..
October 18th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
To be fair, if an individual is healther he/she will be less likely to need medical care or need to take prescription drugs. Even though I’m extremely lucky to even have health insurance, it is not fair that I am stuck paying higher insurance premiums because some fat ass refuses to get off the couch and go to the gym or stop eating bacon triple cheeseburgers for dinner when I take care of myself. How many Americans take prescription drugs for blood pressure or cholesterol? Unless you have familial hypercholesterolemia or some other genetic predisposition (much fewer people have these than are taking the drugs) this can be controlled with diet/exercise. Insurance companies, however, will raise premiums under any pretense they can. They’re just like any other business with the exception that their profits relying on denying people medical coverage they need and sacrificing peoples’ health. Health insurance one of this country’s biggest domestic failures. It makes me sick that I have to line some insurance CEO’s pockets just so I don’t end up bankrupt if I ever need emergency surgery.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:36 am
The Economic Recovery is an Illusion
http://globalresearch.ca/index.....;aid=15501
October 21st, 2009 at 9:14 am
Here’s how you get in shape:
Grow and eat your own food; stay married and have only one parent working and the other staying home with the kids; test your water supply regularly or buy bottled water that’s not tainted; and exercise somewhere that you’re not exposed to chemtrails or not exposed to other sick people indoors.
Hmmm..but wait….
The elites want to illegalize home farming; their text-book taught psychologists teach everyone it’s best to be divorced; if not divorced, they promote both parents working which leaves little leisure time for exercise and home food cooking; finding untainted water is impossible; chemtrails are inescapable outdoors; and to live, you have to be contact with other humans.
Oh. I guess it’s impossible to stay perfectly healthy.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
How do I add this to my RSS reader? Sorry I’m a newbie