Penny Starr
CNSNews
November 6, 2009
Levin, an attorney who served as chief of staff to Atty. Gen. Ed Meese during the Reagan administration, spoke Thursday to thousands of people gathered on Capitol Hill to protest the massive health care reform proposal under consideration in Congress. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) said she organized Thursday’s rally to stop Congress from enacting a health-care reform bill that many Americans oppose.
Both the House and Senate versions of the health-care reform bill would force all individuals who are citizens or legal residents of the United States to buy health insurance or else pay a fine, even though the Congressional Budget Office has reported that the federal government has never before required Americans to buy any good or service. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), a longtime member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, told CNSNews.com recently that this mandate is not constitutionally justifiable and that if Congress can force Americans to buy health insurance “then there’s literally nothing the federal government can’t force us to do.”
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Home » Constitution » Obama’s Health Care: “The Hell With the Constitution”


November 6th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
HELLTHCARE
Hell no.
[THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF TIME]
“Check please!”
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Sofa king we taught it ;) Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
There was never time, it is an imperial mechanism of mind control / slavery.
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Patriot_in_Arms Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Millions of men & women have sacrificed, toiled, shed blood & died for our Constitution & this Constitutional Republic! If we allow this Country to slip away on our watch, then we never deserved the Freedom, Liberty, or title of American Citizen!
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
‘Ben Franklin’
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MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
TO HELL WITH CONGRESS AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
VE VA LE REVOLUTION
IT’S TIME.
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olddog Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:31 am
get rid of relgion and most of the battle is over
MAD DOG Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:17 am
I AGREE.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Yahshua, (the LORD OF HOSTS is His NAME)- would agree 100%, (me too).
phunnie how that works…
JJ Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
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ncpatriot Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
im ready and waiting for the shot heard round the world ,but i wonder how many would pusst out if a real revolution come to your town would you horde up in your house or assemble and rally? i would love for a assemble rally with guns in the hundreds of thousands and lets just see them try to take them cmon people lets make some fucking news they cant arrest us all the prisons are already overcrowded
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ncpatriot Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
liberty or death lets get this shit rolling
zeebob Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
That’s not very smart nc. A bunch of armed patriots in one place by the hundreds of thousands? What a target for the bad guys to bomb or bug spray.
Madman Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Sounds like NC boys and Girls are about sick and freaking tired of sitting around, and getting ready to stand up. NC patriot… looking forward to it myself… waited far too damn long as it is… now if just the rest of the country would wake up, and the by god, Stand up!
I say we’d work better in cells… but that one nice show of power wouldn’t be a bad thing… as long as no one gets their asses shot… perhaps a unarmed warning / gathering / protest… any place a large group is gathered, is a nice place for a carpet bombing… and a new blitz that a small nuclear weapon went off during the protest.
Joe D Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:12 am
I’m not an Army or Marine combat vet (former Air Force), but I think it would be more advantageous to take a defensive posture and let them come to us. Civil disobedience first, and let-em do som-um bout it.
RoyalPain Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
That is why they have constructed many FEMA Camps
kw Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Which Congress, administration and judiciary has completely obeyed the Constitution? Anybody? The answer is none in your lifetime, not your parent’s lifetime nor your grandparents’. So, as its been written before, everybody say it, “WHAT TAXES?” The feds haven’t observed their Constitutional responsibilities to the USA, but we must? Many federal programs, policies and laws are unConstitutional but are enforced as if they are, and a whole lotta folks are doing time, or are dead, as a result. Once again, everybody scream it, “WHAT TAXES”? The 16th amendment is a hoax. See http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com. This guy did the work and documents how this amendment was illegally ratified at about the same time the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was implemented, illegally and unConstitutionally.
WHAT TAXES?!!!
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kw Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
The people don’t pay, the feds can’t play.
RoyalPain Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
No, they would just pass more stimulous bills that add to our future 90% tax. Nice thought tho.
American Veteran Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
you sure we were ever free
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Joe D Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Yes. Prior to 1913.
YOWSAH MARSE BUCKWHEAT Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Here’s just ONE MORE OUTRAGEOUS PACK OF LYING “RULES”
we’ll have to NULLIFY when the time comes.
Soon as that phony coon is out of there EVERY ONE OF HIS
“PROGRAMS” are DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND VOID.
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Bob R. Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JejYWMGNBxA
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Lookout Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Breaking News CNN Live…some guy in florida has now gone on a shooting spree 1 dead 7 wounded
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Sofa king we taugh it ;) Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
OH MAN HERE WE GO AGAIN WTF IS GOING ON MAD DOG DO YOU KNOW?
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notasheeple Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
why would you ask what is going on? Do the research for yourself..don’t take someone elses version or perspective. think for yourself geesh. information is just that until facts are in it is all up for debate.
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Nance Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Spiritblade-Check please-That’s a good one. As I stated in a previous post, Congress wants us to keep our minds busy with these “SHOOTING SPREES” and away from the Obama Health Care Package. Alex can see through this, why can’t we?
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groceriesforyourguns Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
fresh off ze press http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMVWdL2R74 primer about gun control all your idiot friends and family should see
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Ready To Puke Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Thanks for posting that video!
I’m going to repost it on other sites.
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IAmTheJudge Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Real Reform has not even been considered!!
Where are the committee hearings with testimony from Doctors (not the AMA) Nurses (not the Pharmaceutical Companies) Patients who are involved in the current HC System (not screaming, jumping, sign carrying and endless appearances by “Congressmen” touting the “single payer/third party/blah,blah,blah option)?
CBS did some OUTSTANDING JOURNALISM in their 60 Minutes segment about health care fraud last week, and how easy it is to bilk Medicare out of Billion$ yearly by setting up false accounts, making claims and collecting “like taking candy from a baby” was the comment by one fraudster. How will the revision now before the House of Representatives IMPROVE the current system? Where are the Doctors, Nurses and Hospital Admin./Directors ?? This is “Saw III” -style legislation. We can’t figure a way out, because we are no longer a part of the decision-making process; get ready for the next torment and misery.
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The Order is here. Let us pray. Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Why even try to fight “tyranny” when the “Order” is here and has been for a long time?
All we need is to pray to our mother Mary and mother of God.
Even so, Communism (New World Order or totalitarian world government) will fail and we’ll be judged in the end.
Violence won’t help.
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November 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
anything you do is void if you try to go around the constitution fuckfaces!. just saying.. i’ll blast your asses…
Bring it!
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Nance Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
abeatdat-SHUT UP!!!
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November 6th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
The sheeple are so conditioned to all of the imperial forms of slavery that if any of the fundamental blocks of these mechanisms were to break it would be all out chaos, for the sheeple are too blinded to see.
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November 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
lmfao.runs for your lives everybody!!the endtimes are coming!!!!how silly.That shits been pushed by you nutballs for years.You’re probably the same guy screaming bloody murder before y2k.
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SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Pay attention ass-hat:
Israel was RE-INSTITUTED as a nation in 1948, (fulfilling the Lord’s prophecy).
A ‘GENERATION’ is 70-8- years.
The LORD OF HOSTS stated, “THIS GENERATION shall not pass, till all things be FULFILLED.”
do the math-
[DIE ST00PID ON YOUR-OWN TIME]
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MAD DOG Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
UM UH, THE LORD WAS DEAD AND LONG GONE FOR ALMOST 600 YR’S BEFORE THE FIRST PAGES OF YOUR SO CALLED PROPHECY WAS EVEN WRITTEN
WHAT AN IDIOT.
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SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
By your logic ALONE, ‘evolution’ can’t exist, because Darwin diied hundreds of years before ‘evolution’ was to be taught in schools.
(this is why your-kind are [m00k]s)
“NOAH’S ARK/ TURKEY/ WYATT”
[AND]
“RED SEA/ PHARAOH’S CHARIOTS”
[DIE ST00PID ON YOUR-OWN TIME]
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MAD DOG Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:19 am
I SAID NOTHING OF DARWIN
I SIMPLY SAID YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Well that’s made a difference…when??
[NEVER]
[FAIL-4-EVER]
P Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
http://bibleprobe.com/300great.htm
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P Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
just chill out and read how he fulfilled prophecy. Remember Jesus fulfills what the Jewish profits wrote about hundreds… and even thousands of years before Jesus’ birth. Remember Paul was a Jew, they all were, he and many other Jews were the first
Christians.
restless native Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Six hundred years before the birth of Christ the prophet Daniel wrote of the exact time (70 weeks of years) the Lord would come to deliver us .150 years before Cyrus was even born,the prophet Isiah wrote that Crryrus, my servant,would issue the decree to rebuild the first Temple.Almost 2000 years ago the Apostle John wrote that in the last days no man will be able to buy or sell unless he have a mark on his right hand or forehead, not there yet, think that Aron Russo lied about Nick Rockefeller? I know dogs dont read, so get an audio book of Evidence that demands a verdict by Josh McDowell.There are so many prophecys written in the old testament of the comming of the Lord Jesus, that the odds of he not being the Christ wouid mathmatically be to cover the state of Texas in silver dollars three feet high, putting one coin with obamas picture on it, burying in in Austin some where, and having one chance picking it out with one chance. Stick to doing the angry Don Rickles Mad Dogg
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MAD DOG Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am
FK YOU AND YOUR FAIRY TALES.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:33 am
‘angry puppy’ no fairy tales, just truth
your inability to peruse the PAGES, AND PAGES of material i’ve displayed will save many-
You will have to suffer eternally ALONE, (even with billions in Hell with you).
Denying the Living God, becomes your fate in hell.
Bon apetite’ rookie.
restless native Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Was the Fig tree generation started 1948 or when Jerusalem was no longer trodden down by the gentiles? The six day war of 1967 was when Israel took back Jerusalem,up till that point the gentiles had control.
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spiritofthestinkyasscoon Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
wt hell are u guys talking about who can understand your interpritation of the bible?
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spiritofthestinkyasscoon Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
and i thought indians worshipped many gods not just one?you guys need to lay off the peyote
restless native Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
In the last days would come scoffers…..even to deny the Lord came in the flesh……lovers of self……..Spirit blade is like a watchman, attempting to warn your sorry skunk ass that you need to get right with your maker..Skunks and scoffers do stink to high heaven, as it is said…….
MAD DOG Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am
FRIGGEN NUT CASES.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Actually, all indigenous species of ‘native american’ are actually the decendants of the lost tribes.
Who were kicked-out of Israel for building totem-poles.
There are three copies of the ‘Ten Commandments’ etched in stone, in the US- that pre-date the NORSE.
Wake-up deadman.
spiritmook Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
what a freakin jackoff you are spirit.
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earl the earl of earl Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
NO, Spirit is not a jackoff, spiritmook. It is YOU who hate the truth and love the lie. It is YOU who are deluded.
Be encouraged Spiritblade, for no weapon formed against you shall prosper.
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MAD DOG Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am
YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL FAIRYTALE BELIEVING IDIOT DUDE.
eARL THE EARL OF EARL Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
No-=, my tales aren’t fairys, but your tail is hairy, old mad dog.
Attack me all you wish, (iwill count it as gain and joy). i know you cant’ be attacking me, as you dont know me, so you must be attacking the Jesus Christ that abides in me. Praise God.
I love you mad dog, and will continue to pray for your darkened heart and mind.
slave to no man except Jesus Christ
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am
yet, the [m00k] still [FAIL]s…
[GO FIGURE]
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November 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
hey, let’s have socialized roof care. Your roof goes, eveyone pays for it. Let’s have socialized tire care. Your tires go..everyone pays for it…and on and on.
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Ready To Puke Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Hahahaha! But if your house is bigger than mine, then my roof should get fixed 1st!! After all you have some rooms that don’t have a leaky roof – you can just all sleep in that room!! hahaha that totally sounds like a Communist I went to college with. Except he wanted us all to have the exact same size living quarters with identical paint and layout. And we should all have a bicycle for transportation – that’s it – no car. The bike should be the most expensive thing we own. hahaha what a tool that dude was. I bet he has a 6 bedroom house and 2 SUVs now that he’s grown up….
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November 6th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Most important song of our times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhgQbWCFoxU
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Did anybody read anything about glenn beck being shot?
I saw it in a Henneghan briefing….wondering if any other sources.
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Tcc Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
What?? do you have a link?
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MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Glenn Beck was taken away for an emergency appendectomy during his radio show Wednesday; full video coverage here! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....48772.html
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MsCharlyCorday Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Oops, wrong link,; here’s the video link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....48129.html
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Pat D NH Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Thanks for the reply but where is the link of him being taken out his radio show?
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Pat D NH Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Did you find the link or audio of him being taken out his radio show?
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Obama’s favorite part of the constitution is Article 1, Section 9.
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Tcc Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
“No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.”
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Barry Soetero loves pizza Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 1:13 am
That doesn’t matter to him because he’s not the US President!!! How can he be president when he is not a US citizen??
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SPIRITBLADE Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am
[BANG]
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Rothschild deus ex machina…??? http://www.folloder.com/pix/cl.....monkey.swf
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
LISTEN PEOPLE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO READ THESE POSTS ARE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW ALEX JONES, GET THE WORD OUT TO THE CNN’S AND MSNBC’S CALL UR CONGRESSMEN. THIS IS ALL AN ABSOLUTE MEDIA CONTROLLED BLITZ TO CONCEAL THE VOTE THATS COMING ON SATURDAY FOR NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE. PEOPLE GET BLASTED EVERYDAY IN DETROIT, L.A AND CHICAGO ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS FRONT PAGE NEWS. TROOPS ARE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD BECAUSE OF THE WARS THEY FIGHT THEN THEY COME BACK TO THE USA AND NO ONE CARES. FOLKS THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING JUST LOOK AT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE 10.2% AND THATS THE NUMBER THEIR DISCLOSING ITS GOT TO BE MORE LIKE 22%. KEEP UR FAMILY CLOSE BY ITS THE FINAL STAGES OF WORLD GOVERNMENTAL TAKE OVER. PEACE!@
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Not signing up for it, not paying for it, not putting up with it. I will quit my job and be a proffessional CRIMINAL before I let these Communist shit bags take whats MINE and give it to LAZY CRACK HEADS that wont work for themselves. FBO
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
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November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
To hell with the globalists!!!!!
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November 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
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I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
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November 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
HEALTH-CARE for the people, by the people!!! Without health, how will you fight for freedom?
THINK about it!!! If you think it’s a joke, vote against it! Just don’t be in line for help, whining
your dumb ass off when you can’t get the meds you need because you can’t afford them!!!!
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Vendetta Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
‘rob thomas’,
Dude, learn something. Read a book. We have health care right now, it exists, you just have to get a job to afford it. Unfortunately, the Government ruins all it touches.
We won’t be in line, whining for free care. We’ll be the working to middle class people opening our wallets, reaching past the money (we didn’t spend on your 22’s or blades or DUBS or what have you… We didn’t blow it on ‘rob thomas’ concerts, or FUBU wear, or bling,) grabbing our insurance cards and presenting it at the counter…
There are issues with the current system, just like ALL ’systems’, but you need to get your facts straight and find out what the roots of those problems are. Tort insurance, cost of labor in America and cost of the highest quality of care known to Mankind, Ever, Ever. This is near Space Age Technology and Bio-Research and you are whining about the cost… Boo Hoo, go to Mexico if you seek thrifty service douche bag. Or, get a decent education, get a job, and pay for insurance if you want the services of some of the highest educated personnel in the land.
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CyberMiguel Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Actually, Vendetta, France has THE best Healthcare system in the world (confirmed by the World Health Organization).
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
And let me tell you: France has universal healthcare, which means everyone can access the best healthcare the world has to offer.
And look at the other charts: the US is waay low compared to other developed countries.
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Vendetta Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Actually CyberMiguel,
The WHO is a Department of the UN, that very same UN that wants to take away your gun rights, tax the hell out of your meager existence through the “Carbon Tax” and erode your sovereignty through various treaties and usurping your Great Nation’s Currency… But, I’m sure you won’t concede on any of this… Anyway, you should really research the motives of those who present you with “facts.”
The US Pharmaceuticals create most of today’s modern breakthroughs in drugs. The US’s Universities (once again “evil for profit”) make most of today’s modern breakthroughs in medicine. Just because it happens to cost a lot, doesn’t determine the quality of health care. You should also look up Hispanic and Black concentrations in both Countries, then look at their average life expectancy. ???? OH NO! Research!!! Well, factor in their life expectancy, and that drags down America’s average… Nothing against those races, but their averages contribute…
I liked Mr Moore’s movies too, but I conducted my own research and found it amazing what can be found between the front and back cover of a book… (you know, reading? left to right, top to bottom…) Oh, me.
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November 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Do not participate if they try to force any laws or bills through on the Americans. Get in groups of 1,000 or more and confront the criminal government officials.
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Tman Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 2:06 am
Agreed. Stand together and you can defeat tyranny. Unfortunately 100% of Americans don’t do this. Well, it’s not my problem anymore. I’ll just sit back and laugh while on this foreign soil as Americans continue to cry and suffer and defend their system at the same time.
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November 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I WILL NOT BUY THIS, NOR WILL I PAY A FINE. THOSE COMPANIES AND THE GOV CAN FUCK OFF.
GET ARMED, AND REFUSE THE MEDICAL DICTATORSHIP!
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lye32 Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
AMEN!!I AGREE 100%
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November 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
OBAMA’S HELL-CARE: TREASON MADE IN SATANS ASS
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November 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
BURN THE WHORE HOUSE DOWN
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November 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
The government said to hell with the constitution a long time ago.
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Dick Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Just send g.o.a. or n.r.a. some money and you’ll feel better. If that doesn’t work then take some of len horrorwitz’s new age magic juice.
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November 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Restless Native: Would that be Miley or her dad?
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restless native Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Actually King Cyrus of Persia was the grandson of Ester( thats a book in the Old Testament) Ester became queen when Artaxeres then queen would not respect the king.She had an uncle Mordacai who had a big problem with a guy named Hammand.Hammand was kind of like Rob Emmanuel,he wanted to be bowed down to.He then set into motion a plot to have the Queen, her uncle and all of their people exterminated.It did not go to well for Hammand.Any way, Ester and Artaxeres had a son etc who eventually became ruler, Cyrus. Cyrus gave the decree for Esters people to return and rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple.Isiah wrote of Cyrus, my servant, long before he was born. PS The Prophet Jeremiah wrote that the captivity would be for 70 years. Guess what????The captivity lasted 70 years!
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zeebob Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 11:09 am
The story of Ester and Mordecai is nothing more than a borrowing of the babylonian story of Ishtar and Marduk the main Babylonian deities. The book of Ester was accepted very late by the Jews and is the only OT book not found in the dead sea scrolls. Poof!!! From god’s word to fairy tale just like that!!
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restless native Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I got it!!!!! If it was found in the dead sea scrolls then it has historical documentation beyond refute. The entire book oF Isiah was the first read book found in 1947 in those clay jars.So by your logic THE entire book of Isiah is beyond question( not that I had any question about it)You say that the book of Ester was accepted very late by the Jews so it must be a fairy tale. The Jews have celebrated PURIM since Hammond was hanged.Are you zeebob not Mad Dog using a psudoname? Go chug some alpo
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restless native Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I just did a bit of research on Purim ( when Hamand was hanged) and found that according to many rabbinacal writtings Purim has been celebrated continusly since that event, and when the Jewish messiah ( their view, ) comes and history is recorded, Purim will be far more celebrated than crossing the Red Sea out of Egypt. Off course Scoffers Inc will say that did not happen also. Spiritblade posted links for wtatt redsea crossing, or go to exodus conspiracy and you can see with your own scoffing eyes Pharoahs chariot wheels at the bottom of the sea, the pillar erected where they crossed, the altar where they put the golden bull, where water came out of the rock, the burning bush( still there) ( not burning at this time) and scoff all the way to hell if that is what you wish.Just do not say no one warned you………..
November 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
THIS IS THE CALL
http://redi2revolt.blogspot.com
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November 6th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
You people are pathetic
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chemtrailzombie Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
only brained washed fools are pathetic!
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November 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government. – Declaration of Independence
All experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. – Declaration of Independence
ASK YOURSELF – IS IT NOW TIME FOR A REVOLUTION SINCE YOU CANNOT OWN PROPERTY, YOUR OWN REAL ESTATE, UNLESS YOU PAY THE MANDATED AND US SUPREME COURT SUPPORTED TAX / FEUDAL RENT (without which it will be taken from you)?
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November 6th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
ya i heard a radio add today for rfid micro implants for medical ,just after i told the guys at work about implants and they said i was crazy ,the add came on the radio and they did not say anything ,people are so brained washed up ,you get to feel good not being one of the blind sheep!i am so glad to be how i am and not one of the programed drones of society !
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the new game Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
for 7 and a half years I have seen things change in a hurry and have paper proof buried so if the media says oh that’s not what we said I can say ya you did but the one thing that bothers me the most is the outsource of jobs that troubles me for a r3volution all i can say is that i helped boost the sales
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November 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Info wars did not cover ruling over civally sueing prosecuters, Supreme court said prosecuters have imunity for even framing defendants This is over the top.
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November 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
they force us to buy motor vehicle insurance … but only if you drive … and so thats not really force ?
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TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Plus, even though car insurance is also a scam, it’s a state thing.
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November 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
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youtube.com/watch?v=tMCZ8JeEpUw
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Tim Geithner refusus to answser Brad Shermans question:
youtube.com/watch?v=rEpmRv2kAng
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HQ version: youtube.com/watch?v=Gvt1uzLv15o
Rep. Alan Grayson asks the FEDERAL RESERVE Inspector General where the money is gone..:
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November 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
when will the r3volution take place
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November 7th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Glad to see the republicans taking a stand on this. This bill is so outragious it shouldn’t even be DIGNIFIED with compromise and debate as if it were legitimate! All you repups should be doing is exposing it as NOT being about health care, but an ENEMY TAKE OVER! The liberal Democrats are literally picking a fight with this one! If this HORRIFIC BILL makes it to the White House (IN ANY FORM), it should be considered a declaration of cival war, and responded by unified cival disobedience!!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am
The hell with them!
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November 7th, 2009 at 2:00 am
I meant central states and northwestern states. oops!!
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November 7th, 2009 at 2:19 am
a moving movie about our lifes and the way the coutry is, a interesting short film watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUY7dl7X_vo
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
they always treated the constitution like a piece of toliet paper,i myself can’t wait until the civil war starts in this country I’AM READY!!!” LIVE FREE OF DIE”
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
sorry i hit the wrong key “LIVE FREE OR DIE”
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November 7th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Hello My name is Russell Wooldridge. My wife and I and our 3 kids left the United states 3 years ago when we found that it was just a huge scam of debt. We liquidated all assets it the states then left and have not turned back. There is a rule of thumb we go by, and thats get your assets out then get your ass out. Now we have set up a website to help people escape the states. Home We are basicly running an underground railraod. Although we do profit from time to time with this business, we do it more just to help people and make some great friends. The facts are as follows, the US is in more debt then they can ever come out of and the elites never loose, this means someone must loose and that someone would be the commons(the population). Its just like this, the titanic has hit the ice burg of corruption and is sinking fast and not many people are getting on the lifeboats, they are instead waiting for the ship to resurface. We moved to Margarita Island Venezuela, we are more free here, there are no hurricanes, no taxes, 4 cent a gallon for gas, free healthcare, all produce is organic by law. The island sits in the caribbean right between aruba and trinidad. It is safe for foreigners and has more infastructure then any other caribbean island. So we specialize in relocation to the one place we know Margarita Island. We would love to here some other stories of where others have choosen to go and why, and if they like it. We would like to maybe join forces with others who have choosen different spots to live and possibly create a grid of different escape routes.If you need help escaping please contact us, http://www.escapethestates.com
Thank you so much for listening,
Russell Wooldridge
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MARIA Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Oh wow, yeah, you’re such a “hero”……………you’re a freaking crybaby, pussy !!! and you’re a TRAITOR !! Good I hope you stay where ever you are and don’t come back !!! Do you think where ever you are this won’t affect you, you idiot…..you can’t run and hide. Sooner or latter you’ll be screwed and the worst part is, you’ll die on foreign soil !!!!!!!!!!!
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joel Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
i also think his story his a figment of his own imagination,design to lure or upset others.bravo,bravo.for all we know it could be a woman or someone in outer mongolia writing that.
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November 7th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Russel I told you before take your cowardice and blow! The only people to have left are those trying to save their all precious money and worthless lives. To leave your country in the time it needs its citizens to stand and fight like never before is treasonous. I’m telling you to go away and don’t come back. You are a slap in the face of every patriot! ASSHOLE!
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anonymous Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Half the population thought the colonists who fought the British to gain our Country’s independence were traitors AJ. I think the Southerners who fought for the Confederacy were traitors (and the people living today who’d forget the stars and strips in favor of a confederate flag again). A country is only as good as it’s people and your first loyalty should be to your family (not a politician, not a preach and not a religion). You don’t owe loyalty to government officials that’d leave you starving (because they’ve dereulgated Wall St so their cronies can steal your 401K) or government officials that tell you to not get sick and if you get sick die quickly (because they don’t want to give you healthcare with your own tax dollars) when their insurance cronies can make money off of your very life. It’s not cowardice to leave, it’s smart if you can do it.
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November 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I agree AJ. Those who leave the country to escape the shitstorm will not be allowed to return when everything is done. They have made their choice(to run) rather than stay and fight this tyranny. May we forget that you ever were one of our countrymen.
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November 7th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I’m not getting this, no way, no how !!! They want to fine me….llmmaaaooo…go ahead. I have no money, no job and I DON’T GIVE A F*CK about my; so called “credit score” !!! We have been brainwahsed into thinking we are a freaking number !!! (We can’t buy or sell unless we have a “good score” !!!!!!!!!!!!!) Well, I’m NOT a freaking number, so they can go fuck themselves !!!!
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anonymous Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Well Maria, I hope you weren’t one of the people showing up disrupting town hall meetings and carrying signs of Obama looking like the joker. It’s people like you especially, that needed a single-payer system. Hell, we all need it but the corporate elite tricked a lot of dumb people into raising a stink about it and watering the healthcare bill down until it isn’t any good. The fat-cats had people believing that private insurance (run by the rich fat-cats) was in their best interest. On this issue, people need to direct their anger at the masses of dumbasses who did disrupt town-halls and egg the Michelle Bachman’s on and fell for Dick Army’s “freedom works”. (there’s a “trick” of a title).
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November 8th, 2009 at 2:58 am
It is kind of hard to pay for anyhting when we have no jobs. Or most jobs pay very little! Others part time! Most of us have no health care, no sick leave, no vacations or medical! The haves and have nots! It is not about being fare or equal for all! It is about greed! It is about whom you kiss rear and party with! A simple good man has not a chance! What are we going to do? Loosing our homes, our jobs, our families! Living and working in tyranny!~ Please Jesus stop this evil world before we all are slaves! 666-666-666-666-666-666-666! Big brother loves you! Repeat after me I love big brother or is that sister! Or is that I love the beast 666!
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November 8th, 2009 at 8:39 am
so when I get cancer the only treatment I can get is radiation. the wrong treatment.
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November 8th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Guys, start thinking of new ways to make a living. Grow your own gardens with organic seeds. Only spend your money where you want to support the efforts of those you buy from. Yes, there are instances where you have not much option, like with phone or electric service. Buy lots of solar batteries and stock up on food, water, things you need to survive on, if things get rough or you aren’t allowed to buy. Don’t buy health insurance. Quit jobs that force you to give up your freedoms. Change the tide.
Next, the elite and all their minion scum will be leaving this country. Have your employer file you as exempt on withdrawals from your paycheck. Spend all your money on your new part-time self employment. Like building a solar power plant out of your own home. Buy a solar battery and panel, every month. File your taxes, but always show in the red or breaking even, with the write-offs of your new self-employment. Start a radio show, anything that changes the tide in the direction this country needs to go. READ THEIR DAMN RULE BOOKS AND THROW THEM BACK AT THEM.
Challenge in court every time someone tries to come after your rights. DO NOT JUMP THE GUN OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY, unless you want to hand these nutbags their prize on a platter. Stop becoming distracted by Jesus or other religious circular arguments. Use your religion to help you individually and stop the stupidity of arguing about which invisible friend is the strongest or the most righteous.
The subject matter on this board necessarily must fetter out what we can do about this heinous bill. File as exempt on your taxes. Opt out of the health care programs and pay your doctor direct. You won’t get cancer (most likely), if you stop surrounding yourself and ingesting toxic chemicals. Use organic cleaning products, pesticides, and for goodness sakes, eat CLEAN FOOD! Use antioxidants every single day, ingest them without relenting to clear the toxins from your body. EXERCISE!
Buy and sell filters for clean water and pound your locals to get it out of your towns. Document and SLAM your politicians, every time you see a chemtrail over your skies. TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT FLOURIDE AND CHEMTRAILS. Put your new, organic gardens in spare rooms. Get those hang upside down plants if you have little space. Buy/build a small greenhouse to protect it from the chemtrails, if you have the space. Get orgone yard ornaments to help dispel the yuck away, research it. Build your own and sell/give them to your friends and family. NOW GO – YOU HAVE MUCH TO DO!!!
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restless native Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
all of the above,with the exception of the water filters was doing 10 years ago, and i could add about 7 more pages to your list, but who would read that much? Your comment about “do not become distracted by Jesus or other arguments” makes me question your motive for above post.What do you expect to gain?…….You are 80 years old say, have a pesticide free body and grow your own food.You have made a few judges upset because of your skill at exposing admiralty law, so the county sheriff regulary stops you and when the IRS comes after you , you skillfully ask them the questions they will not answer.Your neighbors and radio listeners appreciate all your hard work as they weaker than you die off from the Malthusian elements of the government programs, and pogams.Now , where are you? Happy ? Now you take your last breath and stand before your maker, who is not a fairy tale, what did any this do to help you as to where you will spend eternity??????????
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TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
My point is, why does every article inspire pages and pages of circular, religious arguments, while the subject of the article is neglected? I question the motive of morons who simply CANNOT discuss the subject but rather, continue to encourage distractions by way of arguing a mute point.
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November 8th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
NOW THEY WANT THE UNEMPLOYED AND UNDEREMPLOYED TO BE SLAVES TO THE FUCKING INSURANCE COMPANIES, A INDIRECT PERMANET BAILOUT FOR THOSE SCUMBAG MAGGOTS AND WE THE SLAVES, ( I.E THE SO CALLED FREE CITIZENS OF THIS DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC WILL PAY FOR IT FOREVER, WHAT ABOUT SINGLE-PAYER PLAN, CUT THE FAT OFF THE PIGS,( INSURANCE COMPANIES, WHO NEEDS THEM THEY AD JACKED UP COST TO HEALTH CARE FROM 30% TO 500% , LET THE CROOKS IN WASHINGTON PAY ALL THEIR HEALTH COST THEMSELFS, BUT NO THEY GET IT FOR FREE AND WE PAY FOR IT, THEN THEY CALL ON US THE PEOPLE TO SUFFER MORE TO PAY FOR IT, WHERES THE JUSTICE? WELL THEIR IS NONE! WELL YOU FEED YOUR CHILDERN AND GO WITHOUT AND PAY OUT OF POCKET TO KEEP THEM WELL, NOT ENOUGH,NOW THEY TELL US WE MUST FEED THE MAGGOTS TOO! WELL WHEN MY FAMILY GROWS UP AND THEIRS A WAR THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT CAN PAY US ALL FOR THE TIME AND MONEY AND ALL THE SUFFERING WE INDURED RAISING OUR CHILDREN ,NOT THEM ,SO THEY CAN BE PUT IN HARMS WAY AND FOR WHAT? FREEDOM NO, BUT SO THE MAGGOTS WILL BE SAFE HERE AND WORLDWIDE TO ENJOY THE FRUITS OF ( OUR LABOR AS THEY LAUGH THEIR FUCKING ASSES OFF AT THE SHAFT JOB THEY HAVE GIVEN US ALL, IF THIS IS CHANGE, WHO WILL FIGHT FOR IT? SMELL THE STINK, WEVE BEEN HAD! THANKS TO THE GIRLS AND BOYS IN WASHINGTON D.C. ( THE GREATESS WHOREHOUSE OF THE WORLD WHERE OR ELECTED OFFICALS SELL THEMSELFS OFF EVERYDAY TO THE HIGHEST BIDDERS.
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November 8th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Freaking insurance companies are the problem. They don’t provide anything, they just make money off of people’s health. They’re like the middlemen collecting for the mob; they operate totally outside the Consitution. This bill isn’t worth a shit. The only way we’ll have real healthcare reform is to run the insurance companies out of “business” (using the word business loosely) and have the government run the financial end of healthcare….leaving the health decisions themselves to the doctors and patients. A lot of the democrats really wanted real change but you can thank those goddam republicans and blue dog dems for muddying up the bill to the point that it will only make things worse. And Obama needs his ass kicked for talking up “bipartisianship”. He needs to get tough and do what’s right and stop worrying about low IQ teabaggers and their corporate financiers/instigators.
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November 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I agree with the person who said don’t get distracted by “Jesus” because “Jesus” is being used as a distraction and a tool. The corporations joined with the evangelicals back in 1980 to get repubicans elected. The corporations use “Jesus” to fool people into doing what they want you to do. Religion has always been a way for the elite to get the “little people” to go against their own best interest. Talking up Jesus and patriotism are just propaganda tools for the powers that be. And, it works. People will never be free until they shake the bonds of religion. As for meeting you maker, if there is a maker, he/she/it has nothing to do with Christianity because Christianity is just another man-made religion like Islam and Judaism and all the other man-made religions.
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November 8th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
atheists in Hell ….zero Even the demons believe and tremble
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November 9th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
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November 10th, 2009 at 8:14 am
The hell with Congress. They are all traitors!!!!!
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November 10th, 2009 at 9:47 am
democracy is a politically correct form of slavery ;Me, 2009
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November 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Included in the healthcare bill are mandatory vaccines!
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November 10th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
the hell with man made religion and manmade laws that violate the constitution and what is true
there is one true God Yahwh and his son Yahshua who is coming back soon and the rapture is a lie for fools who dont read but are read to from the pulpit prostitute !
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November 10th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
The last sentence says it all…”..there’s no limit to what the government can do”.. That’s one reason I left the U.S….there’s no freedom there. When I settled here in centroamerica, I recognized freedom..I couldn’t believe it !..I thought I was free in the U.S….boy, was I ever wrong. It was like my eyes were suddenly opened and I saw what real freedom is. anyway…that’s another story..I wanted to talk about medical insurance. I still have my medical insurance in the states..I have to pay a little bit for it, but it was provided in my “retirement” that I could keep my medical insurance for life..last time I checked, it would cost over $500 a month to keep the coverage I have..for which $20 or $30 is deducted from my pension. Here’s the thing..in my new country, their “social security” is really just health care, provided to everyone, and the cost is deducted from their paychecks. Being a retiree, and a new resident, soon-to-be new citizen, I applied for and recieved today my “social security” medical insurance..for my wife and I, it will cost me less than $50 a month for full medical/hospitalization..all costs 100% covered…for the both of us..also, my new “social security” also covers 90% of my funeral costs. I just wanted to put this out there…so that others might know..my new country takes care of it’s citizens..they don’t have an army..they do have excellent medical care, that is provided to all citizens. and perhaps most importantly..they have FREEDOM
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November 11th, 2009 at 4:10 am
Impeach Chimp II:
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