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  • Obama’s Inauguration: A Masonic Ritual

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    Julia Duin
    The Washington Times
    January 19, 2009

    President-elect Barack Obama’s swearing-in Tuesday will incorporate several elements out of America’s Masonic past.

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    One-third of the signers of the Constitution, many of the Bill of Rights signers and America’s first few presidents (except for Thomas Jefferson) were Freemasons, a fraternal organization that became public in early 18th-century England.

    Although it became fabulously popular in America, at one time encompassing 10 percent of the population, Pope Clement XII condemned Freemasonry in 1738 as heretical. The latest pronouncement was issued in 1983 by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger – now Pope Benedict XVI – who called Masonic practices “irreconcilable” with Catholic doctrine.

    Still, as the first president, George Washington had to come up with appropriate rituals for the new country. He borrowed many of them from Masonic rites he knew as “worshipful leader” of a lodge in Alexandria.

    His Masonic gavel is on display at the Capitol Visitor Center. Until this inauguration, Washington’s Masonic Bible – on which he swore his obligations as a Freemason – was used for the presidential oath of office. President-elect Barack Obama will use Abraham Lincoln’s Bible.

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    48 Responses to “Obama’s Inauguration: A Masonic Ritual”

    1. Brian P Says:

      lord oh lordy

      listen folks, they had a secret meeting in a small/medium township in Virginia, called Chantilly, a meeting called the Bilderberg meeting….. this stuff isn’t a game. I witnessed them coming there in blacked out limos and SUVs.

      the regular news on tv and in the newspapers didn’t cover this massive meeting of world leaders.

      do you think they get together to play return to castle wolfenstein on their laptops?

      they are there to make themselves stronger and their aims achievable through agreements.

    2. Skip Says:

      The vatican has a masonic pillar standing in st.peter’s square, also the whole vatican complex looks like a giant key, the cover of newsweek has obama in front of an owl.

    3. Robodoon Says:

      In 1833 Former President John Quincy Adams Stated:

      “I do conscientiously and sincerely believe that the Order of Freemasonry, if not the greatest, is one of the greatest moral and political evils under which the Union is now laboring….I am prepared to complete the demonstration before God and man, that the Masonic oath, obligations, and penalties cannot by any possibility be reconciled to the laws of morality, of Christianity, or of the land.”

      Page 30

      Now is the Dawning of the New Age, NEW WORLD ORDER / Dr. Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.

      January 2004 – The Occult Movement in America The Illuminati

      June 2000 – Occult Philosophy: Part III
      May 2000 – Occult Philosophy: Part II The Religion of Masonry
      April 2000 – Occult Philosophy: Part I Freemasonry

    4. Robyn Graves Says:

      So…what’s the news value, here? And what does it have to do with Barack Obama? He isn’t using George Washington’s Bible, is he? He’s using Lincoln’s. What’s the point?

    5. urza Says:

      the pillar standing in st.peter’s square has a cross on top to show jesus kicks pagans asses!!

    6. Robert M. Stockmann Says:

      Julia Duin wrote the washingtonpost op-ed article. Duin is a Illuminati name.
      But its written in popular style with semi fiction inside, which comes straight from
      comic books. “Contrary to public perceptions of Masons being older white guys,
      current local membership is a racially and religiously mixed group of Gen-X men”

      Obama tells the washingtonpost he is a Masonic Gen-X man from Star Trek.
      One idiot replaced by another? Looks like this feller is stil living in a articial
      crafted dreamworld (c) Disney, (c)WarnerBros (c)CocaCola, (c)General Electric
      (c)Pixar Animations (c)Lucas Dreamworks.

    7. ed Says:

      Obama referred to our rights coming from our maker,a sign he isn’t a mason? higher up masons don’t believe in any maker. ITt’s ME; ME; ME; folks. I CAN DO WHAT I WANT, STEAL, LIE, KILL.
      Just like the Talmud in fact. No wonder they say masonry originated in Israel and the high honcho mason include Rockefellers and Rothschild.

    8. Glenn Petrone Says:

      Joseph Ratzinger was said to have condemned the Masons. This is interesting because Bnedict XVI/ Joseph Ratzinger and his predecessor John Paul II are very Masonic in their pronouncements. Ratzinger is steeped in phenomenology and the Hegelian Dialectic.

    9. PooPooHeads Says:

      Red Dawn now Says:

      January 19th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
      Robyn big eye Graves, Washington was a mason, but not of the satanic order as it now exists,

      Well Well Red Dawn you must be a Mason since you are in the know. I had no clue that they were of the satanic order. I bet you go to one of those lodges in your buddies basement and roll those dice to Doungans and Dragons while haveing your meeting, Discussing who will wear the wizards hat at this meeting. Please enlighten us more with your allmighty knowledge. Just a guess I bet you found out the Mason’s satanic order ON THE INTERNET!!! HAHAHAHA LMFAO !!! For real all jokes aside do tell where you get your information. I still believe you got it off the internet. And as we all know the internet never lies………….. It’s good to question things in life but to take one persons opionion and consider it truth. well that is silly. All one has to do is research and form one’s own opionon. But in todays society we have gotton lazy and most have no idea how to reasearch.

    10. Still Looking Says:

      Where are these ILLUMINATI all these posters write about? Who are those ILLUMINATI these posters write about? Tell me about these ILLUMINATI those posters write about. Aside from the garbage I GOOGLE I can’t really find anything about them. How come everyone knows but me. When I ask about those ILLUMINATI no one can really answer any questions. I read a Dan Brown book that had the ILLUMINATI in it. Last I looked it was fiction. I have read that the ILLUMINATI exsisted well before my time and slowly faded away thru the years but this was to escape religous persicution for their study of science. So if there are any Immortal Highlanders posting here please answer the questions about the ILLUMINATI.

    11. 4w578i Says:

      “Calling themselves a ’spiritual organization,’ Masons need only believe in a Supreme Being.”

      Observant Christians don’t call other men, “worshipful master.”

      “…they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on men’s shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Woe unto you, [ye] blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!”
      –Matthew 23: -16 (KJV)

    12. John Says:

      #16 shut up!

    13. nutball88 Says:

      he is a clone from some 3500 year old super asshole. and his family is all cloned. the new first family lived long ago as vlads biggest influence. the bushes were not viking jew slayer kings though, they were just rich greedy stupid hicks.

    14. nutball88 Says:

      the founding fathers were allowed to create the constitution. it’s very existance prooves what level masons of the new world were in mass. the new world had not enough influence from the higher up to be detered from the words in the constitution. voice and arms, free? the higher ups where sick. but they couldn’t say as much because they wanted to embrace the inevitable and manipulate it over time. practice makes perfect, and these freaks have had alot. masons are a branch of the peak of the pyramid. the meak shall inherit the earth, for the meak are the people and the people are chosen.

    15. ProudPrimate Says:

      “So…what’s the news value, here?”

      Consider the source, Robbie — Rev. Moon’s Washington Times, a right wing rag that has never turned a profit, but is foisted on the public by big foundations. It’s an ad for Masonry, Skull&Bonery, &c.

      That’s “Times”, not “Post”, Mr. Stockmann. Big difference. Oh, and by the way,

      “Julia Duin wrote the washingtonpost op-ed article. Duin is a Illuminati name”

      What utter cult-minded hogwash. Duin is Dutch name, a form of Van Duyne, or Van Dyne. Ancestry.com says that in 1920 there were some 80 families in the US with the name Duin.

      Where on earth do you get your information?

    16. ProudPrimate Says:

      looks like another censored post I’ll have to post at LostPostsFromInfowars.blogspot.com (=sigh=)

      By the way, the worshipful master at the control panel is protecting the tender feelings of the worst spellers anywhere on the web, who coincidentally consider themselves to be the experts on “what God is doing”

    17. ProudPrimate Says:

      ah! there it is. that’s a relief

    18. ProudPrimate Says:

      RDN:

      I read the bible in Greek and (to a lesser extent) Hebrew and Aramaic, and I’ve read it through in English dozens of times, most of it hundreds of times.

      I carry the Greek New Testament in my PDA, (as well as the English) which I copied from the web book by book, and search-and-replaced about 5 letters of the alphabet that didn’t come out right in the font I use (Athenian.TTF), after writing a macro that opened each book in the folder automatically and performed the substitutions. So now it looks essentially like a printed copy.

      So it’s not for lack of familiarity that I am skeptical.

      And “prego” doesn’t mean “hello” just because Italians answer the phone with it: it means “I pray”, and I’m sure you do. But what kind of answers do you get?

      If you are “a believer”, the last two verses save two of Mark say this about you:

      “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

      They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

      Are you a fire & snake handler? Healed any amputees lately? Or maybe you don’t really believe after all, eh?

    19. tony andrews Says:

      As for man, his days are like grass, he flourishes like a flower of the field; the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more. But from everlasting to everlasting the Lord’s love is with those who fear him, and his righteousness with their children’s children” (Psalm 103:15-17).

    20. sharingtruthdotorg Says:

      Red Dawn, consider this one simple verse and it wasn’t Paul who said it.

      “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me.” (John 14:6)

      Salvation is found only in Jesus, not in Jesus plus keeping the law. You can’t keep the law, nobody can. Jesus fullfilled the law, meaning He completely satisfied it for us so we could be saved through Him. If anyone could keep the law, He wouldn’t have had to die on a cross to save us. He also said He came to set the sinner free so would it be freedom to be put back under the bondage of the law? When Jesus comes into your heart and saves you, you’re free to live for Him and holiness not to live for carnality and sin.

      To be saved, all one has to do is simply repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and we’re born again by the Holy Spirit. Praise God!

      http://www.sharingtruth.org/goodnewsshort.html

    21. ProudPrimate Says:

      “I was referring to the spaghetti sauce commercial, Prego”

      I’m afraid I missed that. I stopped watching commercial TV in 1980.

      As to miracles, cancer is known to have a certain incidence of spontaneous remission. So that is thin proof.

      But i’m glad you pick and choose, especially when it comes to Paul. After all, didn’t he defy the Holy Ghost three times in Acts, starting in about ch. 20, being straitly told not to go to Jerusalem, but he cared more for his fellow Pharisees than the commandment of the Holy Ghost? And again in Romans 9:3 —”For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:”

      Where was his treasure?

      Still, he had a lot of depth and a lot of good in him. I love II Corinthians, best of all his writing.

      But you’re aware, aren’t you, that Thomas Jefferson was such an one as I am, a lover of Scripture, but not the supernatural parts, to the extent that he took a razor to his NT and removed the miracles? that’s the bible that is given to every new senator and congressman.

    22. sharingtruthdotorg Says:

      “Whole books have been written about the Masonic imagery on buildings around the District. Many of their cornerstones were laid with Masonic ceremonies involving oil, wine and corn.”

      Now read this:

      “For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal” (Hosea 2:8)

      Its Baal worship.

    23. High Plains Drifter Says:

      Red; re #29 (below):

      “If you had read my earlier posts on these topics, you would know that I only ascribe credence to those scriptures which reinforce one another from the new testament from the old, it is is law of first reference and the predicate to use two witnesses, that is, if whatever is found in the new testament is not found to have credence in the first, since YahVeh does not change and Yahushua said He came to change nothing but fulfill, then, we know this doctrine to be false, such as the rapture ruse and the Paulinian lie that you can eat whatever despite the law of Leviticus, etc.,.
      In our congregation, we have had healings, I am aware of many more even in non messianic congregations, Yahushua said, “I have sheep not of this fold,” no, we don’t fool with nasty serpents, and yes, we believe and have seen miracles, one of ours had terminal cancer on here death bed/ward and recovered a year ago, many other blessings inexplicable have occurred.”

      ***Are you suggesting that the Apostle Paul started a cult? I’ll start with that question, to save time. I’ve had *discussions* with some, who claim to be christians, who disregard/discount Paul’s epistles. The *law* you cite (the ‘law of first mention’–a theological principle, not a law!) is hardly ironclad as a guiding hermeneutical tool, as the meanings of words can vary based upon context. I’d love to discuss your theology with you. I’ll look for your response. Thanks..God bless Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    24. High Plains Drifter Says:

      Proud; you posted the following in #31:

      “But i’m glad you pick and choose, especially when it comes to Paul. After all, didn’t he defy the Holy Ghost three times in Acts, starting in about ch. 20, being straitly told not to go to Jerusalem, but he cared more for his fellow Pharisees than the commandment of the Holy Ghost? And again in Romans 9:3 —”For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:”

      Where was his treasure?”

      ***The Scriptures never say that Paul ever defied the Holy Spirit. Are you referring to the time BEFORE he was saved? What you posted above was very confusing. In Chapter 20 Paul states that he went “bound in the Spirit” to Jerusalem (v. 22).

      As to the Romans 9:3 reference, Paul was brokenhearted over the recalcitrance of his brethren re the gospel of God. The jews continued to reject Jesus Christ and God finally *set aside* Israel, corporately (and temporarily), and would deal with the world without regard to previous conditions (Acts 28:28).

      What many fail to recognize is that there were 2 distinct *gospels* preached in the New Testament (ref. Acts 15, and the accord reached thereat); one to the *circumcision believers* and the other to *uncircumcision believers*. Paul was very clear in his epistles re the differences between the two. Much division ensued, THEN, and it still exists TODAY because people refuse to “rightly divide the Word of Truth” (II Tim. 2:15).

      May God give us wisdom to understand his Word, and the times! Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    25. Huck Says:

      “For the mystery of iniquity does already work: only he
      who now allows will let until he be taken out of the way,
      (the Spirit of Truth)
      And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord
      shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall
      destroy with the brightness of His coming.
      Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan
      with all POWER and SIGNS and LYING WONDERS,
      And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them
      that perish; because they received not the love of the
      truth, that they might be saved.
      And for this cause God shall send them STRONG
      DELUSION, that they should BELIEVE A LIE:
      That they all might be damned who BELIEVED NOT
      THE TRUTH, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
      (2 Thessalonians 2;7-12)

      This is a bit lengthy, but the message is that great
      deception is in the earth these days, and the father
      of lies is behind it. Don’t believe every “miracle”
      you see, because Satan can also use “lying wonders”
      to deceive.
      Unless there’s another false-flag, tomorrow a criminal
      usurper will be “sworn in” as the “next president” of
      this bruised and beaten nation. Remember, no matter
      what hocus-pocus goes on and what lies are declared,

      GOD IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY

    26. ProudPrimate Says:

      The references are:

      Acts 20:23 ff:

      Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me.

      You can say that the Holy Ghost was merely foretelling trials accompanying a good work. But this is Paul’s account, not the narrator (which is presumably Luke). So his understanding enters into the telling.

      Acts 21:10 ff:

      And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus.
      [11] And when he was come unto us, he took Paul’s girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
      [12] And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.
      [13] Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.
      [14] And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done.

      Again, you may say this is not a commandment to eschew Jerusalem, but a foretelling of trials. But in the third warning Paul himself admits he was commanded not to be there.

      Acts 22:17 ff:

      And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
      [18] And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.
      [19] And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
      [20] And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
      [21] And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.

      Paul had heard this before, but he did not obey, because he cared more for his Pharisee brethren than the commandment.

      And he admits it in Romans 9. Your reaction is typical, and understandable. But it amounts to an unwillingness to read what is written. He was a less-than-regenerated Pharisee. He had not abandoned his “old man”.

    27. Evolution is satan's greatest deception Says:

      I present two bible verses for you to read again proud primate. It’s obvious by your statements your have read these verses many times, probably in multiple languages based on your statements. However, instead of boasting about your copious amount of time studying the Bible, I humbly suggest a different approach. I suggest that you should humble yourself before the Lord with prayer each time before you read and ask the Lord to grant you wisdom and allow you to understand the true meaning of God’s Word. You have the privilege of being able to read the prophets’ writing of God’s Word in their original form, but your comments lend me to believe you have not been blessed with understanding from Yeshua. I can only read the Bible in English and when I read the KJV, I have to ask God to help me understand it. I do better with the NIV, but it’s not as accurate a translation according to those who are astute in those matters. But I ask Him before I read to teach me Truth and not lead me astray. Trought His mercy, the Lord slowly reveals it to me as I diligently work to learn His Law.

      If this comes off as an attack, I apologize. I, today and everyday, ask the Lord for mercy and forgiveness. I believe I have received it, but better safe then sorry. I personally believe the window for asking and receiving His mercy is closing fast; so why not start today. I am no better than you or anyone else who tries their best to preach the Word. From Romans 3:10 There is no one righteous, not even one. Especially me.

      WHERE YOU ARE TODAY – From the Parable of the Sower

      Matthew 13: 10-15

      The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

      11He replied, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:
      “Though seeing, they do not see;
      though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
      ” ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
      you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
      15For this people’s heart has become calloused;
      they hardly hear with their ears,
      and they have closed their eyes.
      Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
      hear with their ears,
      understand with their hearts
      and turn, and I would heal them

      WHERE THE WORLD IS TODAY

      2 Timothy 3
      1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power

      May the Lord Bless You today.

    28. High Plains Drifter Says:

      Red; going point-by-point here, addressing your first–your #35, para. 1 (below):

      “High Plains drifter, no, I am not saying the paulinian doctrine is a cult, but I find Paul suspet as the 13th apostle, there were and are only 12, in my opinion, that is how it is as the Most High, as the most low counterfeits, deals in numbers as well as the written word to communicate and reveal etc.,”

      **This statement is a bit contradictory on its face! First, Paul was NOT the “13th apostle”..The Bible refers to him as the “Apostle to the gentiles” (ref. Ro. 11:13), the one to whom the “gospel of the mystery” (ref. Ro. 16:25; I Cor. 2:7) was entrusted, etc. *Matthias* was the replacement for Judas Iscariot, who “went to his own place” [i.e., hell] as a result of his transgression. Ref. Acts 1, espec. the end of it where it states that Matthias joined the 11. There were still 12 Apostles, not 13. I think you may have been making ref. to occult numerology, which I agree is very bad. But God ascribes considerable significance to numbers, at times, also. To summarize, IF Paul was lying in ANY of his writings THEN all of his writings, as well his authority to pen Scripture, would be suspect. Is that not logical? Thanks for your response.

      By the way, what is your congregation? I’m very curious. Mine is Denver Bible Church:

      http://www.kgov.com http://www.denverbiblechurch.org

      Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    29. ProudPrimate Says:

      #39 —

      have a nice day

    30. High Plains Drifter Says:

      “And he admits it in Romans 9. Your reaction is typical, and understandable. But it amounts to an unwillingness to read what is written. He was a less-than-regenerated Pharisee. He had not abandoned his “old man”.”

      ***Proud: I read your entire #38 (conclusion posted above). So..it would seem that you reject Paul’s encounter w/ the risen Jesus Christ on the Damascus road; or am I mistaken in my speculation?. I’ve read a few more of your posts, as well; I have a fairly good feel for your theological biases, I think. So..do you, then, embrace Jefferson’s theological bent which denied the supernatural aspects of the Bible? What of the resurrection of Jesus Christ? Do you believe it to be true? Thanks for your timely response; I’d not be inclined to refer to it as “typical” or “understandable”, though! Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    31. audaciter Says:

      For all you people who come to this site to argue about religion – maybe it would be better for all concerned if you just started your own website where you can pursue these futile debates to your hearts content. You can call it “truthvs.nonsense.com”. You guys can argue over which is which while the rest of us post and read comments that are actually pertinent to the topic.

    32. boogeyman Says:

      audaciter,

      Finally someone has said something sensible. When I see what kind of people this site attracts and what preoccupies their minds I simply see no future. The entire struggle is futile when you have people lacking common sense, logic and knowledge of the subject next to you.

    33. High Plains Drifter Says:

      Audaciter; Here’s your remarkably ridiculous post’s text (#43):

      “For all you people who come to this site to argue about religion – maybe it would be better for all concerned if you just started your own website where you can pursue these futile debates to your hearts content. You can call it “truthvs.nonsense.com”. You guys can argue over which is which while the rest of us post and read comments that are actually pertinent to the topic.”

      ***Don’t look now, but ..freemasonry is about..religion. Gasp! Religion?? You don’t say!

      So, it’d be better if we christians were consigned to some free-speech ‘leper colony’..is that it? A place where our conversations won’t offend your tender sensibilities. Your last sentence shows me how little you (and your kindred spirit, boogerman ,#44) are paying attention. Go back to sleep..so sorry to have caused you so much bother. OH..by the way, I’ll take your suggestions under advisement, but don’t expect to see me shut up about the Bible anytime soon. There’s no topic of a moral nature to which the Bible, and its content, does not apply.

      Take heart! You have far greater enemies in this God-forsaken world than christians. I hope you’ll join us rather than fight us. Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    34. Wayne Coates Says:

      The “evil” freemasons have, through their Shriners Burn Centers, treated FOR FREE over 800,000 children from all over the world.

    35. ! Says:

      http://www.expansions.com

    36. ! Says:

      ROSWELL EVENT:
      The Roswell UFO crash from 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico was a staged event orchestrated by the Illuminati. This was done to introduce the population to an alien presence on Earth, and start the revelation for the future staged alien invasion that will be implemented.

      THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT:
      Project Rainbow, which later became known as the Philadelphia Experiment, was a secret government experiment done in 1943 involving a US Naval ship called the USS Eldridge which was to be cloaked invisible to radar using Nikola Tesla equipment, in the hopes that this would gain an advantage during WW2, even though on an Illuminati level the Nazis and the US Secret Government were on the same side. The Philadelphia experiment was a success in terms of the hardware, the ship became not only invisible to radar, but rather it vanished from physical reality and traveled into hyperspace levels of existence, creating an energetic time loop to the Montauk Project on Montauk Point, Long Island in 1983. The ship reappeared in the harbor approx. 4 hours later and was a horrible disaster for the crew on board the USS Eldridge. Some of the crew were missing, some were dead, mentally insane, some were on fire, and some were actually embedded within the super-structure of the ship; enmeshed in the steel. The project was covered up and the survivors were brainwashed, with most being placed in mental institutions due to not being able to function in physical reality.

      THE MONTAUK PROJECT:
      The Montauk Project was a series of secret government experiments that ran from 1970-1983 and involved mind-control, genetic manipulation, time travel, weapons research, weather control, and various other electromagnetic experiments. The project took place at Camp Hero Air Force Base on Montauk, Long Island. Technology used at Montauk was that of Nikola Tesla’s and various alien technology given to the government by different alien groups, some of whom were involved at the base during the experiments. The Sirians from Sirius A provided the technology for the Montauk Chair, which was used to first manifest objects in physical reality out of pure thought energy from the trained psychic sitting in the chair, with the chair hooked up to computers. Eventually the chair evolved to the point where they were manifesting portals that would lead to other points in time and space. There was also a time travel tunnel technology used for sending people back and forward in time or into other realities, etc. It is estimated that at Montauk over 300,000 children, mostly males, were sacrificed and used in these experiments over the 13 years that the Montauk Project lasted.

      http://expansions.com/

    37. ProudPrimate Says:

      HPD:

      “So..do you, then, embrace Jefferson’s theological bent which denied the supernatural aspects of the Bible? What of the resurrection of Jesus Christ? Do you believe it to be true? Thanks for your timely response;”

      Thanks for your courtesy, as well. I might mention that I was born at St. Anthony’s and graduated from Wheat Ridge High (’64) but moved to Maine ten years later. Howdy, neighbor?

      Yes, I am a Jeffersonian in virtually every respect, including that one.

      Red Dawn —

      all your spluttering about communists asided, religion has been and is still one of governments’ chief tools of manipulation.

      Here’s what Machiavelli had to say about it:

      But it is necessary to know well how to disguise this characteristic, and to be a great pretender and dissembler; and men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. One recent example I cannot pass over in silence. Alexander VI did nothing else but deceive men, nor ever thought of doing otherwise, and he always found victims; for there never was a man who had greater power in asserting, or who with greater oaths would affirm a thing, yet would observe it less; nevertheless his deceits always succeeded according to his wishes, because he well understood this side of mankind.

      Therefore it is unnecessary for a prince to have all the good qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always to observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and to be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

      And you have to understand this, that a prince, especially a new one, cannot observe all those things for which men are esteemed, being often forced, in order to maintain the state, to act contrary to faith, friendship, humanity, and religion. Therefore it is necessary for him to have a mind ready to turn itself accordingly as the winds and variations of fortune force it, yet, as I have said above, not to diverge from the good if he can avoid doing so, but, if compelled, then to know how to set about it.

      For this reason a prince ought to take care that he never lets anything slip from his lips that is not replete with the above-named five qualities, that he may appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. There is nothing more necessary to appear to have than this last quality, inasmuch as men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, because it belongs to everybody to see you, to few to come in touch with you. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them; and in the actions of all men, and especially of princes, which it is not prudent to challenge, one judges by the result.

      For that reason, let a prince have the credit of conquering and holding his state, the means will always be considered honest, and he will be praised by everybody because the vulgar are always taken by what a thing seems to be and by what comes of it; and in the world there are only the vulgar, for the few find a place there only when the many have no ground to rest on.

      One prince of the present time, whom it is not well to name, never preaches anything else but peace and good faith, and to both he is most hostile, and either, if he had kept it, would have deprived him of reputation and kingdom many a time.

    38. ! Says:

      ROSWELL EVENT:
      The Roswell UFO crash from 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico was a staged event orchestrated by the Illuminati. This was done to introduce the population to an alien presence on Earth, and start the revelation for the future staged alien invasion that will be implemented.

      THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT:
      Project Rainbow, which later became known as the Philadelphia Experiment, was a secret government experiment done in 1943 involving a US Naval ship called the USS Eldridge which was to be cloaked invisible to radar using Nikola Tesla equipment, in the hopes that this would gain an advantage during WW2, even though on an Illuminati level the Nazis and the US Secret Government were on the same side. The Philadelphia experiment was a success in terms of the hardware, the ship became not only invisible to radar, but rather it vanished from physical reality and traveled into hyperspace levels of existence, creating an energetic time loop to the Montauk Project on Montauk Point, Long Island in 1983. The ship reappeared in the harbor approx. 4 hours later and was a horrible disaster for the crew on board the USS Eldridge. Some of the crew were missing, some were dead, mentally insane, some were on fire, and some were actually embedded within the super-structure of the ship; enmeshed in the steel. The project was covered up and the survivors were brainwashed, with most being placed in mental institutions due to not being able to function in physical reality.

      THE MONTAUK PROJECT:
      The Montauk Project was a series of secret government experiments that ran from 1970-1983 and involved mind-control, genetic manipulation, time travel, weapons research, weather control, and various other electromagnetic experiments. The project took place at Camp Hero Air Force Base on Montauk, Long Island. Technology used at Montauk was that of Nikola Tesla’s and various alien technology given to the government by different alien groups, some of whom were involved at the base during the experiments. The Sirians from Sirius A provided the technology for the Montauk Chair, which was used to first manifest objects in physical reality out of pure thought energy from the trained psychic sitting in the chair, with the chair hooked up to computers. Eventually the chair evolved to the point where they were manifesting portals that would lead to other points in time and space. There was also a time travel tunnel technology used for sending people back and forward in time or into other realities, etc. It is estimated that at Montauk over 300,000 children, mostly males, were sacrificed and used in these experiments over the 13 years that the Montauk Project lasted.

      http://expansions.com/

    39. Tribulation is here Says:

      His voice is hypnotic. I’m already in a lull after 10 minutes of this lizard speaking.
      He even said “New Age” in his speech.

      This country is so screwed.

    40. ZEEFROG Says:

      ANSWER TO ! SAY
      THE ROSWELL CRASH WAS REAL MY FRIEND……!!!!!!
      I DON T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR DESINFO FROM BUT YOU SHOULD GET YOUR ACT RIGHT BEFORE TALKING SHIT ON THIS SITE…….!!!!!!!
      I SUGGEST YOU GO AND SEE THE WORK OF Dr STEVEN GREER…..PLEASE AND WATCH THE PRESS CONFERENCE OF MAY 2001 AND THEN REALIZE HOW WRONG YOU WERE…..
      one love from france

    41. Infowarrior Says:

      What is the numerological significance to the number 233?

    42. Tribulation is here Says:

      The poet is speaking like a ROBOT!!!!! This is the biggest mind-control project ever done on humanity!!!!

    43. Ant Says:

      Yeah Tribulation, We will just leave Bush in and see how he can screw us even more. lol

    44. ! Says:

      #55:

      LOL!

    45. audaciter Says:

      #45 High Plains Drifter…

      Thank you for you response, but it was totally unnecessary to repeat it to me as I’m fully aware of what I said. Yes, I agree with you that the basic tenets of Freemasonry has elements of religion. Point taken. However, several of the posts prior to mine contained no mention of Freemasonry. You assume to understand much about me and my beliefs based on a small paragraph. I assure you sir, you do not . My point with regards to religious beliefs and debates is that given our current situation and our common enemy ( those who plot to take our liberty), wouldn’t it be more beneficial to our cause to agree to disagree. Wouldn’t we be better served to focus our energies on actions we can take in the immediate future to preserve our liberty?

    46. boogeyman Says:

      #45

      Don’t flatter yourself and don’t make it even funnier.
      Freemasonry is a religion? Sure… I have a collection of original masonic publications, written by freemasons for freemasons, I have studied the subject many years from both inside and outside sources and you just don’t have a clue what you’re talking about as long as you blindly listen to all “truthers” who constantly mix 70% of camel droppings with 30% of facts.
      You don’t even understand the whole symbolism behind it, you take cheap mysticism and a mix of all religions in symbolic rituals for religion. Solely the blatant use of the term “Illuminati” whenever you mean globalists (or whoever else your enemy is) shows how ignorant you people are about those subjects.
      If America has something to be proud of it’s the masonic values represented by people like Washington or Madison and similar humanist views of Jefferson or Paine. You should know what they thought about your religion…

      “There’s no topic of a moral nature to which the Bible, and its content, does not apply.”

      This is probably the only book you’ve ever read, your precious field manual telling you what to do and think because you can’t think for yourself. There are many such topics, it is your thinking that is enclosed in this one particular piece not the other way around. There had been much more advanced civilizations before a bunch of sheepherders came up with something as unoriginal and obvious as the 10 commandments.

      #48

      “Audaciter, we believers, who are the majority”

      So you believe in the rule and tyranny of mob, i.e. democracy, that is opposite to a republic.
      I guess you’ll wipe your mouth with the Constitution when it’s convenient for you.

      “unbelieving nitwit unwashed people” Awwww, how Christian of you…

      “[particularly 55.9 million last century and they promise to expire 90% of us this century, they being the occultist/satanists to who you unwittingly,(presumably and most likely ascribe and owe your loyalties)”

      Oh yeah, sure, let’s forget about the untold millions of people killed in the earlier centuries in wars started by religious leaders. Let’s forget about slavery, robbing and all that. The Nazi government and officials were secular? Wow, and you call others brainwashed and undereducated? Your country was founded on secular values you poor ignorant creature. As for loyalties, my only loyalty is to civil liberties and those who I care for. Don’t preach to me about “satanists” because you know as much about those subjects as you know about history.

      “I will not be beat down by a sniveling, retard, nonobjective bunch of close minded , uneducated, over indoctrinated bunch of gunsels”

      It’s “be beaten down” Mr “Educated”…

      Another representative sample of true Christian love and respect. A guy who believes in a 6000-year old Earth, talking snakes and some primitive Bronze Age Jewish ramblings calls others “uneducated, nonobjective and close minded”. Now that’s laughable! It is funny because most of those “uneducated” experts on ancient history and culture, religion, symbolism, ancient languages etc. have a vastly different view than yours. Oh wait, must be Satan’s work. Anyway, we can leave it out of politics, can’t we?

      “is obedience to YahVeh” The same vengeful and cruel YahVeh who commits genocide a few times, advocates stoning and treats people like puppets in that racist book called Old Testament (a selection of arbitrarily chosen old texts)??? I guess it’s the same guy.

      “I will speak on the issue of religion, especially on this, a Christians site at will!”
      Please do, that’s your constitutional right. I didn’t know the site was Christian though, always though it was a news site. Silly me… The problem is, and you of course can’t understand it, that starting blunt religious rants under ANY topic can achieve NOTHING. Of course you can bring up your religious matters anytime you want and of course it will solve no real problems whatsoever. What’s the point then? Is this a way of masking lack of knowledge on a given topic? “Hey, we don’t know much about it (except of what we blindly believe in because our gurus told us so..) so let’s insert religion here and there.”
      I can understand perfectly well why the general public is so pathetic in the eyes of our enemies…

      You see, the stuff you write here is a perfect example of what puts people off sites like this. Focus on the article if you have anything interesting to say.

    47. ProudPrimate Says:

      boogeyman —

      don’t be shy — c’mon, tell us what you really think

      audaciter —

      I take that to be the Latin adverb. Correct?

    48. audaciter Says:

      #66 P.P. …

      Correct.