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Ohio sheriff orders deputies not to evict
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Fox 28
December 11, 2008
HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) — A sheriff in southwest Ohio has ordered deputies to ignore eviction orders when people have nowhere else to live.
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Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones says evictions in winter weather and during an economic recession are heartless and those cases should be sent back to the courts and resolved some other way.
Jones on Tuesday ordered deputies to ensure that people have shelter before they’re forced out of their homes. He also sent a letter to Gov. Ted Strickland asking him to issue a state order to stop forced evictions for at least the winter months.
The sheriff could face court action if a bank or landlord challenges his refusal to honor a court-ordered eviction. Jones says he will face any consequences of his order.
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December 11th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Its great to hear of someone in power actually helping people in a time of need. I know a lot of police get into law enforcement to help, but then become jaded or corrupt later. At least this hasn’t happen to this officer. Great work!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:27 am
HURRAY FOR THE WORKING CLASS , WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE MR JONES WHO CAN STAND UP THIS THIEFS
December 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am
NOW THERE”S AN HONORABLE MAN!
Would to God we had a few thousand like him,
(and perhaps we do).
This nation could be turned around on a dime!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
It’s good to see that someone in authority is actually thinking with their heart and head and not blindly following orders. And actually willing to face the consequences of such. Somebody give this man a medal. Way to go Richard!!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Someone with morals!!! Bet he wont be on Obamas team!!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Awesome! Humanity instead of the bottom line on a spreadsheet. Applaudable and honorable.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Kudos to Sheriff Jones for standing up for the folks in his county! Definitely on the “nice list”! Merry Christmas and God bless!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Good for someone saying “no.” A great example for the rest of us.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:37 am
In the face of corporate greed a law enforcement officer with compassion.
May God bless this man, he is a rarity in the law enforcement community
where so many are terribly arrogant and uncaring.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
WAY TO GO SHERIFF JONES THATS REALLY AN HONORABLE CHOICE/CHANCE TO TAKE
December 11th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Good man! Stand up and face ‘em down! Right is right and wrong must die!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:47 am
That gives me real hope, not the counterfit bullshit that Obama was spewing.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:50 am
I totally agree with many here…..brilliant to see and i hope his community support him and shame those in government that dont
December 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
GOOD JOB SHERIFF !!
December 11th, 2008 at 11:53 am
All of these people have refused to make mortgage payments for at least three months. Nobody in that town will make mortgage payments in the future if there is not a threat of eviction. I don’t understand why everyone is against enforcement of property rights. When you break a contract, the rules of that contract should be enforced in a society that protects property rights.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:59 am
WAY TO GO! We gotta take the power back!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
#15, here’s my solution to our problems. We all stop paying our “contracts” and “debts” and we tell the powers that we will not be held to our so called “obligation” AND we are going to keep all the property. We tell them, fuck you the property is ours and what the fuck are you going to do about it.
Grow a pair or get out of the way.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
If a person or family dies due to the cold because they were evicted in the winter months….who would be held liable? The banks don’t give a rats ass about people freezing to death.
The sherrif would probably be the scapegoat.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
We as a people need to watch out for our own communities. Good job Sheriff and God bless you sir!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
We need more rebellion like this on a massive scale. We need to evict this fiat-government.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I am very very happy to hear of some humanity out there in Richard Jones’ actions. Hopefully he is starting a ball rolling that will turn things the other way! The people of that states and his collegues should stand up for him, if and when any reprocussions come of this.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Good to see a sheriff with honor and common sense.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Finally a peace officer with balls protecting the poor; respecting the spirit of the law; not only its’ letter and corrupt masonic accessory judges.
Now, if we could evict the criminals in the WhiteHouse….. find those FEMA guillotines …. and have this revolution ….., I’m sure the zionists banksters would bolt as the deserting war criminal bitches they are….and cry for mommy like little girls.
I wonder what would Officer JackBoot would say about this fine sheriff. This JackBoot Kool Aid drinker will not fight as a man as I asked him to throw his badge and come at me. Ask Jason Burmas if he remembers…..:)_)
I would feed his taser gun up his wazoo and see if i70 000 Volts tickles new thoughts.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
While I have compassion for these poor people, I have to also agree with Jason (post#15). I personally would probably try to work out a deal with these people on an individual basis. They should be given more of a “grace period” to try and pay off their debts. If they don’t at least try and pay a little bit a month (payments varying depending on income), they should then be evicted. This way, those that are at least trying will be able to maintain their shelter.
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December 11th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
RE: #15 Jason – First, please understand that, when you sit down at closing and put your ink on the Promissory Note, YOU HAVE CREATED THE MONEY that funds your house. YOU are the creditor!! The bank then takes that note immediately and cashes it out (unbeknownst to you). They have been paid!! Then they expect you to repay not only that principal again, but the interest over 15-30 years…usually paying three times the value of the house, after the bank has already absconded with their money.
Second, do not assume that everyone who gets behind on their mortgage does so on purpose. Nothing could be further from the truth. My husband was out of work for the better part of 2007 and the bank would have GLEEFULLY foreclosed on us, except that I asked them to prove that they had valuable consideration in the loan…They could not prove that because, of course, they don’t!
BRAVO to that sheriff who stands with the least and the last when the chips are down!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Nor should the land oner pay property tax wile the people are not paying there rent. The sheriff in southwest Ohio has ordered deputies to ignore eviction orders. Now he needs to ignore tax orders. Till the boys and girls up on the hill can fix what is worng with the bankers. I am with John on this one. “Good job John” we need to stand tall and together on this, every one should stop paying property tax till this whole thing bows over.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
It’s nice to see that there’s still people left in the our Enforcement System that remeber why they are there for to “Serve And Protect THE PEOPLE” not the Gov. or the Big Corporations and so forth. You have my respect Sheriff. Thank you for your work
December 11th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
hate to see what they do to this guy….maybe this is the one that starts the fight from the people…I cant imagine he will be the last to stand up against moral injustice as this nonsense continues. good job, well done!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Sheriff Jones for President!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Where did they happen to be so fortunate to find and honest and caring and decent sheriff. If they get rid of him I’d like to have him for my sheriff. God bless him and take care of him.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Good job Sheriff Jones, people like him make me proud to be an Ohioan. But we need to follow this story, Gov. Strickland will probably hang him out to dry.
#15 Why evict these people now, when the homes will just sit there abandoned for months to come. I don’t know where your from but the economy here sucks! Every time I pick up The Dispatch I see a few thousand jobs lost here in Ohio and a few thousand more predicted to be loss in our future. But I’m sure you will understand soon enough.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
There are still good people out there, and this sheriff is one of them!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
The ties that bind us, will destroy the New World Order. The Altar of Freedom, occasionally demands the blood of Patriots and Tyrants in sacrifice. One drop of hope, can dry an ocean of despair. One spark can ignite the pyre. One story like this, is the equivalent of a murderous calvary charge right into the New World Order’s flank with no quarter asked nor given. They could kill a million of us and do less harm. THEY ARE LOSING CREDIBILITY EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY, AS OUR NUMBERS ONLY SWELL. Truth is a swifter than the most righteous blade. The tide is turning. Like before a coming storm, we’ve watched the waves building in intensity, not realizing, they’re being pushed to shore by a coming hurricane that is still far out to sea.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
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December 11th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
The article didn’t say anyone “refused” to make their payments as Jason suggests. I’m from Cincinnati where Hamilton is a suburb. Hamilton is an economicly depressed area, mostly very poor neighborhoods.
Sheriff Jones has an outstanding reputation for being very tough on both drug crimes and illegal aliens. I for one am quite pleased to hear that he’s trying to help the oppressed of his town. Yes, OPPRESSED. The banksters ruined our economy, and got a $700,000,000,000 reward for it.
Factories in the area are dropping like flies. These people for the most part live paycheck to paycheck and have literally NO savings. To cast them from their homes in the winter months is just adding cruelty to the insult of being forced out of work by people who’ve never done real work.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Is it just coincidence that a law enforcement officer that obviously has an understanding of his appointed place as a SERVANT of the people rather than THEIR MASTER has the last name of JONES??? Wonder if he and Alex are related? Way to go Sheriff Jones! We sure need more PUBLIC SERVANTS like him!
Maybe we should nick-name Alex Jones “NWO Cyber Sheriff”!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I would like to shake that mans hand in Respect. LAW Men of this land take note as we citizens WANT to respect you more so giude your actions with HONOR Or we citizen will start inforcing the law to you
December 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
What’s this a sheriff with ballz protecting the poor? Somebody give that guy a medal for bravery, honor. If there is a God he’s watching that man. His picture should be on every american paper and honored for his bravery and justice. He needs to be exposed by us to the public and protected against all attackers. Well done sheriff. If you lived in my neighborhood you and your family would never be in need of a job and always supported.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I’d like to see these corrupt police here in California do something like this.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
omg a cop with a heart, mucho props for ohio sheriff
December 11th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
sHERIFF ARE THE HIGHEST LOCAL OFFICIAL. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT. LEARN THE LAWS
December 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
some good news finally. if they try to move for a court action against the sheriff people must stand for him. its good to know that there are still good people in this world.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Good For OHIO Keep Fighting the Good Fight
December 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
finally a sherriff with heart. there is another side to this story though. I own 2 properties and are heavily reliant on my rent income to pay my bills. If I couldnt evict tenants No money then I cant pay my mortgage.. so, I think the county should step in and pay the landlords their rent. County and city government have buttloads of cash.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Folks, we need to support men like this one! I read every day of mounting abuses by law enforcement and it gets my blood boiling. I then read something like this and it gives me a drop of hope. It’s like Alex says, support the good ones in what ever way you can, because these few good apples will need the support of other like minded individuals when the NWO brings the full might of its machine to try and bend this sheriff. Shore him up and he won’t break.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Does anyone know the name and address of the sheriff and the govenor. I would like to write a thank you letter to the sheriff for not being a miniobn and I would like to write a letter to the govenor praising hat one of his Sheriffs is doing and that he should offer full support.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
FINALLY, A MAN ARMED WITH A BRAIN, AND HE’S NOT AFRAID TO USE IT!!
YEEHAAA! GO, SHERIFF RICHARD JONES!
I BET HE GETS RE-ELECTED, IF THEY HAVE A CHANCE AT ELECTION, THAT IS.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
My wife and I were present when in 1991 a broward county sheriff in Florida evicted a very prominent eighty-eight year old woman in a wheel chair from her home. The couple who had bought her home did not pay her the balance of the money they owed according to contract, so she decided to wait until they paid her. Instead the couple decided to give her an eviction notice by using their influence with local officials. No sympathy here. She moved back to Ohio to live out her remaining years with a family member.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
This should spread like wildfire
sometimes people can suprise you
December 11th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
i know it is not always the case but it is my experience that most sheriff’s are for the ppl. and i know some are falling for the propaganda but deffinly not all. our local city police are pretty awsome as well and seem to understand what is going on and will go along with this only so far. i’v talked to our former retired head of the local state police force and he agreed with me on that . his estimate at least 90% know what is going on and will only go so far. only a “few bad apples ” ya know what i meen? of course ,this is only an opinion about “our” local police
December 11th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
This is a start. As for the renters, that does make things difficult to deal with.
I hope that many are able to see this article. If homes are not lived in, understand that some may not have the money to do this, but the maint. and care will be left to little or none and that home will fall for sure.
To the Sheriff that is facing this on-slot, I pray for your courage.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
After All the Bullshit i Read, Its nice to run into some good News
December 11th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Wat to go Richard. You must understand Mathew 25:31 Keep standing for christ. Thanks
December 11th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
if all of you did this, then you would actually see change.
stand up for other humans.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Awesome, totaly awesome!
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December 11th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
God Bless him! May we all find that compassion in our lives.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
They’ll probably hire Blackwater to do it. . .
December 11th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Officer Jones I salute you, a real american hero, if anyone can give us his contact info please do, he deserves our support and praise. FUCK the NWO and everyone who supports it.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Well, I believe that people NEED to look at ALL Sides of the story! I personally am torn on this subject. I am a landlord in an area that’s… not so great. I feel it’s unfair that I still have to pay my mortgage while my tenants live off the government system, have plenty of money to pay their rent and CHOOSE not to! I know that EVERYONE has hard times and may not be able to pay their rent, I work with them! But, I cannot afford to pay my taxes, that they live off of, and pay for their housing! All people have choices and I chose to work HARD to have a better life. So I that it’s uncalled for that I work with my tenants as much as I can so I don’t have to evict them and when/ if I eventually have to, a sheriff does not do his job! That sheriff has NO idea what the situation is. What if by not evicting those tenants it causes the owner to fall short on their bills and get evicted themselves???? If it’s due to “cold weather” there ARE state programs to help people. No one wants anyone to be on the street during winter. But, it’s not a landlords responsibility to pay for their tenants to live!
On the other side, there are slim to no programs to help home OWNERS. It only hurts a community to have vacant properties all over. The banks are going to HAVE to do something to help owners on owner occupied properties. No one is buying, people are being kicked out on the street with no where to go, there has to be something done about that!
December 11th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
sbarnett@sheriff.hamilton-co.org
To whom it may concern,
I just want to take a moment to thank Officer Jones for his compassion and bravery in standing-up for those who have been “evicted”, and have no where to go. Though I am not a resident of Ohio, I still however commend this officer, and hope there were more like him, especially in these uncertain times.
I hope he will not face the “wrath” for his compassion. It (compassion) is not a “fault”, it is a virtue, and one I hope is shared not only by his fellow Ohio officers, but by his brothers around the country.
You sir have my utmost respect! Thank you for your time to read this, and I hope it will be forwarded to Officer Jones.
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You may reach the Community/Media Relations Section at:
1000 Sycamore Street, Room 110
Cincinnati, Ohio 45202
Phone: 513-946-6400
sbarnett@sheriff.hamilton-co.org
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http://www.hcso.org/ContactUs.shtm
Contact info taken from their website
December 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I wonder how long it will take the Feds to arrest Sheriff Jones on some trumped up charges. They are most likely wire tapping all of his conversations. I’ll bet the bankers ruin Sheriff Jones and his family within months. Hey it only took 48hrs to arrest the gov. of Illinois. Sheriff Jones took on the Government over illegals and actually got two officers trained to be official ICE agents. Sheriff Jones is a Great American as Bill Cunningham of 700AM WlW would say, but I don’t think he understands how powerfull the corrupt syndicate of Banksters are.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
The Sheriff used rare abilities known as compassion and common sense. Wonder if that’s a job prerequisite? Maybe it’ll catch on!
#24: Agreed. Work out a deal, more grace period, etc. That may or may not have been the case. Regardless he made a moral decision, not the ‘throw the baby out with the bathwater’ job. It was brave and may cause peer animosity. As long as the community stands with him, he should be alright. I was told as a child when you can feed, cloth or house someone; supposedly the blessings are 10 fold. Is there any truth to that?
#17: If this was another time I would disagree. But these times, with the revolving circumstances, I would have to agree. The people have been battered since the beginning of the new millennium. It’s not about paying blood money but being lied to, swindled, used, abuse, betrayed, etc. These are con men who make promises they can’t keep or don’t intend to keep. The only things these criminals deserve are serial numbers, jump suits and a booth up you knows where!
#15 The people are not against the enforcement of property rights. It can be just as beneficial as detrimental. What people are against is getting the short end of the stick. “What’s good for me is not for you and do as I say not as I do”. This is not in the best interest of most people. So it may just be that people are tired of the one way enforcement, rights, society, protection, rules, mortgage, payments, opposition, eviction and breaking contract. Think this past decade covers most of these? Just a thought.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
@wi landlord:
Ya.. you have a point. but i think this article refers to people who’s adjustable rate mortgage shot up from 1000 a month to 2600 a month. Not renters. Homeowners. Those affected by the Mortgage crisis etc. but like i said… you have a point too.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Every 30 year mortgage should have a total of three, 6 month deferments (just like student loans). Just in case you lose your job, hardships etc… You could use one 6 month deferment every 5 years etc. with a fixed rate loan. And as a bonus, if you dont use a deferment in 5 years, You get a one month free credit, that you can send in anytime you like. (save it for a rainy day etc) ( and for being on time too). I wonder if this was law. Would it make the home lending system better?
Oh.. and you cant use a deferment withing the first 10-12 months. This will weed out people that just want to scam.
December 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
the sheriff departments of this country have been incrementally taken over or infiltrated. aj did an interview a couple months back in regards to this very thing.
December 11th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
#65- Thank you for trying to see an alternate side to the situation. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am a “devil’s advocate”. I have the ability to see both sides of the story no matter what the situation, even if I am involved.
I bought my first house in 2001 at 19 years old on an adjustable rate. My mortgage went from 1,000 to 1,300(not bad). I have that house rented right now for $900 a month and I need to make up that difference. I was a very successful realtor at the time so I understood completely what I was getting into with an adjustable rate. Being in real estate, I personally warned people about those loans and educated people on them. Though every lender I worked with was an honorable business person, in the business I saw people getting taken advantage of by adjustable loans. My personal experience was that people got themselves in those situations regardless of what I or the lenders I worked with told them. People that should have NEVER bought a house, did. The problems I saw with good lenders I worked with was that they had to give loans such as adjustable, interest only, ect because that clients wanting that loan and house, would either go through them and be educated about it or, go down the street to a con lender, get an even riskier loan with no education about the situation they were getting into. Listening to the show I heard Alex say something along the lines of: no one complains when the bubble is getting filled and we are all making money, only when that bubble pops and the country is in the situation it is in, we are saying something about it.
December 11th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I never could understand why is it the job of the sheriff to evict !!!!!!! Thats the problem of the banks!!
December 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
WHy is everyone hooked on this “30 year loan” concept…
The difference on the payments between a 30 year and a 20 year loan of $150,000 is on $88.00 a month in payments. That equates to a little over $2 a day..= skipping a snack as a fast food resturant.
In the end..over the periond of difference between a 30 and a 20 year loan the borrower will save approximately $95,000. Find an ammoratization calculator and figure it out yourself.
December 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
THAT SHERIFF DESERVES COMMENDATIONS.
BUT NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
KEEP AN EYE ON HIM.
December 11th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Baghdad Sherrif orders deputies not to evict.
BECAUSE THERE ARE NO HOUSES LEFT.
BECAUSE THEY WERE BLOWN UP BY MURDERING AMERICAN RAPISTS
December 11th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
it looks like people are standing up, this is what it will take for Americans to a free people with the love of the nation.
December 11th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
I don’t think the sherrif is standing up to anyone. I think he is trying to protect the people he is evicting so that they don’t freeze to death – if these people have nowhere to go.
December 11th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
This Sheriff deserves a pad on the back from all of Hamilton County. I own many properties here in Ohio and would never evict anyone in the winter time months and furthermore find it very difficult to do at all. In fact, this has inspired me to prepare food boxes for all my renters.
Personally, I think it’s about damned time we Americans stop handing the Government our tax dollars and start giving that money to people whom need it most. Let the damn banks crash, let the damn auto industry crash and yes let the damn stack market crash and let’s start a new system instead of trying to force feed a dead horse!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Amen Brother Mark!!!! This world system is greedy, cold and hartless! God will judge them in the mean time we DO need to stand together!!!!!!!!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
ok People I completely understand that it is not fair to put someone on the streets during the cold ohio winter months as I am a landlord from ohio. But 90% of these types of people have no respect from properties that they do not own, that they just rent from. Then they run up the gas, electric and water utilities with no intentions on to pay them either so then they get the power shut off which in the cold winter months the appartment will freeze and freeze the pipes and explode water into the unit. then who gets stuck with the mess and the bills “the property owner”. When the property owner is trying to stay above water himself (or I) to give these people a warm roof over their heads and to be fair at the same time. With ohio in a bad situation as it is now with so many jobs lost. I ask you all what is fair me or others loosing their properties due to people not paying and destorying or getting them bad ones out and finding the good ones that respect and can work together and get throu these rough times. Of course there are going to be the people that are going to say well “I should have my contract, clad lock contracts”. But with the legal system the way it is in ohio these nonpayers can stay in the appartments rent free upto 6 months now is that really fair to the property owners. I still have to pay my loans on the propeties every month and I am sure not for someone else causing me to loose my properties. It is better for me to leave my unites empty then keep nonpayers in them, then who wins…. no one.
The few jerks can mess it up for all
December 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
wi landlord Says
I am with you sir, Obviously 95% of these people on this message board r not in ohio and are not property owners. I bet if the sheriff Was a landlord he would never have a nonpayer in a unit pass 30 days unpaid and the same goes for you all. If it wasn’t for us landlords then who would give you that trust and chance to rent your place that you so love and need.
December 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I was in training for GMAC Mortgage in the late 90’s and was disgusted by what the banks and mortgage companies were up to. We would “fix” a clients credit so that they looked good on paper knowing full well they would be in bankruptcy just about as soon as the ink dried.
I was well aware that the calculations that banks and mortgage companies used in determining eligibility (debt to income ratio) was extremely faulty if not down right criminal. No living expenses are figured in the ratios leaving any borrower vulnerable to changes in income, inflation and other costs that may fluctuate wildly (as in gasoline prices). Without taking into consideration these very necessary expenses the borrower can be led down a prim rose path to hell.
I worked very briefly for this company and never made it past my training period. I just could not exploit my fellow human for personal gain and this is what ALL of this is about.
Personally, I think almost every landlord needs to be homeless. I have very little resepct for anyone who will gain wealth off of those who are struggling to survive. I think most people are whores and will do anything to anyone to get what they want in this sick society.
I am sorry if I offend anyone but if you find yourself offended then you must be feeling a little guilty, and so you should…..just before you stop exploiting your fellow man for personal gain. If you need an income…get a real job.
That Sheriff should win the Nobel Peace Prize…..not GW. What he did gives me hope that many others will find their tiny little hearts as well and manifest much love and compassion as he did.
If there is one thing that everyone should understand about what is actually going on in this world it is this; What we do to others will be done to us…..no exceptions.
Peace to all……
December 11th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
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How likely is a great anti-Jewish slaughter in the twenty-first century?
To answer this question is to make a forecast. Any kind of forecast requires the person making the prediction to evaluate patterns in the past in order to guess about the future. Thus, in order to get a feel for the likelihood of an anti-Jewish slaughter in the twenty-first century we examine the past to see whether such an event would be surprising, or else normal. As it turns out, it would be perfectly normal. For 2000 years in the Western world it has been more common than not for a century to contain at least one great anti-Jewish bloodletting. Unless otherwise specified, the items in the following list — which is not complete, but which will suffice to make my point — are culled from James Carroll’s history of Western antisemitism, entitled Constantine’s Sword:
1st century – Genocide of the Jews by the Romans (‘First Jewish War’) 2nd century – Genocide of the Jews by the Romans (‘Diaspora Revolt’ and ‘Second Jewish War’) 4th century – Following Emperor Constantine’s Council of Nicaea (325), all sorts of imperial measures against the Jews, special taxes, prohibition on new synagogues, and prohibition of Christian-Jewish marriages.[00]
Church father Ambrose encourages burning of synagogues so as to abolish Judaism. 5th century – Atacks against Jewish communities during Holy Week, including the burning of synagogues.[00] A great massacre of Jews in Alexandria.
[There is a relative pause in anti-Jewish attacks, and relative tolerance toward Jews, due to the collapse of the political structure of the Roman Empire. Once the German aristocracies that conquered Europe converted to Catholicism, and the empire was reconstituted as the Germanic Holy Roman Empire of the Middle Ages, the attacks are renewed.]
11th century – Crusaders massacre Jewish communities in the Rhineland. 12th century – Crusaders massacre Jews in Europe; persecution in Spain. 13th century – Forced conversions of Jews all over Europe. 14th century – Black Plague is blamed on Jews. Perhaps three hundred Jewish communities are wiped out. Jews in the Rhineland are exterminated. Jews in Seville are massacred, followed by widespread pogroms in Iberia.
15th century – Spanish inquisition. Many Jews are killed. More than 150,000 are expelled from Spain. 16th century – Inquisition becomes pan-European phenomenon. 17th century – Inquisition continues. 19th century – In 1827 the Russian Tsar began a process of slow-genocide against the Eastern Jews, by forced conscription into the Russian army for Jewish boys, starting at the age of eight. Somewhat later the rate of conscription for some populations of Jews was raised to 5 times higher than what was applied to any other population, and matching the rate of groups selected for special punishment. The terms of service in the Russian army were 25 years.[0] 19th century – Widespread pogroms against the Eastern Jews in the Russian Empire.[1] 20th century – Widespread pogroms against the Eastern Jews in the Russian Empire, and then a genocide by the German Nazis all over Europe.
The twentieth century massacres, still fresh, were especially bloody. One often hears the slogan “Never Again,” meaning never again a Holocaust such as was carried out by the German Nazis. The slogan is invoked almost as a magical incantation, as if its recitation had the power to prevent the next antisemitic mass atrocity. It does not. If practically every century there have been great massacres of Jews in the Western world, then the least risky prediction that a historian can make for the twenty-first century is that there will be another — without even looking at the evidence for current trends. The burden of proof is therefore on those who believe this cannot happen again: they will have to document why the world is now different.
This is a burden they cannot meet.
The hostile propaganda that got hundreds of thousands of Jews persecuted and/or killed in Tsarist Russia, and then between 5 and 6 million Jews exterminated in WWII, is once again being energetically spread by the Western mass media. The result will be the same: a great massacre of Jews. This piece will document what the mass media does and how it prepares the ground for the next genocide, which is right around the corner. Unless this is quickly understood by the millions of people who will either kill, abet, or silently watch, the great Jewish Catastrophe of our times will soon overtake us…
December 11th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I have an Idea why doesn’t the sheriff build public housing for the nonpayers why is it the problem for us independent propety owners when we do not get any state help or funds.
December 11th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
There are still heros out there
December 11th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Hopefully the sheriff will let all the poor people live in their cars or trucks when it gets warmer since thats where a huge number of people are headed anyway.
December 11th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
jamie
I have two other jobs One full time and then in the air force reserve, plus a family. There is no way any one could make me feel guilty. To top it all off I am 99% ON ALEX SIDE, I can honestly say I am a true patroit.
December 11th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
77 lol Says:
December 11th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
ok People I completely understand that it is not fair to put someone on the streets during the cold ohio winter months as I am a landlord from ohio. But 90% of these types of people have no respect from properties that they do not own, that they just rent from. Then they run up the gas, electric and water utilities with no intentions on to pay them either so then they get the power shut off which in the cold winter months the appartment will freeze and freeze the pipes and explode water into the unit. then who gets stuck with the mess and the bills “the property owner”. When the property owner is trying to stay above water himself (or I) to give these people a warm roof over their heads and to be fair at the same time. With ohio in a bad situation as it is now with so many jobs lost. I ask you all what is fair me or others loosing their properties due to people not paying and destorying or getting them bad ones out and finding the good ones that respect and can work together and get throu these rough times. Of course there are going to be the people that are going to say well “I should have my contract, clad lock contracts”. But with the legal system the way it is in ohio these nonpayers can stay in the appartments rent free upto 6 months now is that really fair to the property owners. I still have to pay my loans on the propeties every month and I am sure not for someone else causing me to loose my properties. It is better for me to leave my unites empty then keep nonpayers in them, then who wins…. no one.
The few jerks can mess it up for all
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OK, lets take this instance (with the sheriff) out of the equation for the moment. If you have non-paying renters in your property, you have to legaly evict them, as you claim to be aware of. By the time that would happen, according to you (6 months) winter will be over.So, what’s the difference?
Secondly, as a landlord, you have reasonable rights to inspect the property (for things such as “frozen pipes”). If you don’t, then that’s your own fault. What if the property were empty? Also, tenants “usually” have utilities in their own names, so the bills follow them, not you so what do you care if they owe $10 grand? If you allow renters to put utilities in your name, then again….your fault.
Be careful what you wish for…..how well do “empty units” pay the bills?
December 11th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
As a property owner of a rental, this sucks big time. Sorry, not heartless, I ‘ve got other renters who live honorably and pay their bills I have to think about. If I have a deadbeat in the house its not fair to them. The deadbeat can go live with a relative or the salvation army. My rental house does not have a RED CROSS painted on it.
December 11th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I’m so sorry that you have so many jobs…..and that you are a “patriot”. What is that?
I’m for not profiting off of anyone’s misery by making bombs and the planes that launch them. By not collecting a paycheck to legally asassinate people from foriegn lands. By not perpetuating an antiquated systems of governance and so called “civilizations”. By not charging someone for something that is so vital to their health and their children’s well being as in shelter. By not asking money to heal someone of what ails them. This “civilization” is a dinosaur and needs to goooooooooo.
I once read a definition of prostitute and I think it fits very well for all of these things I speak of. I will quote the ‘American Heritage Dictionary’; “pros·ti·tute (prst-tt, -tyt) KEY
NOUN: 2. One who sells one’s abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.”
It is unworthy of us as a species to do the things that we do to each other in the name of whatever that gives us that “right”. Put any name that you desire to the deed to subvert the truth of the action.
That you are in the reserves makes me feel deep sorrow for you. I may respect you as a person but I do not respect the line of “work”. I can seperate the person from the deed and realize that most people just blindly walk through life without serious consideration what their actions and participation perpetuate. I do not need anyone to protect me from “Terrorists” because they live in everyone of us.
It is an act of terror to put children on the streets, vulnerable to the elements and other predators that prey on misery. That renters and homeowners (some) are of filthy habits and neglectful and destructive behaviours is only relfelective of their self worth and childhood environment. We are as parasties living off of each other’s life force until we have completely drained that life into oblivion. I am appalled to be part of the human race. Truly.
When I do eventually leave this palnet I will not mourn that day.
December 11th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
House
you think you know but you just don’t have any Idea!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok first go and live in ohio,
then buy two or more rental properties,
wait about 5 years or more.
Read the ohio tenant and landlord law book updated yearly,
go to court a few times oh wait don’t forget to get a lawyer with court cost.
scream at the utlity companies weekly explaning it is not your bill to pay cause they want their money one way or another. Now add that up plus the six months of nonpayment. all that from just one nonpayer. Now tell me if a bank would deal with crap like this for that long if you missed your house payments. Not only do I think but I know they would not put up with crap.
When you do everything I spoke about above, then I will respect your words
Oh I almost forgot during the 6 months nonpayment they saved up and found another place and did the same to them. What I am saying they know how to work the system
Now to think about it, it was you
LOL
December 11th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
jamie
Honestly what you wrote does not make any sense and I read it a few times it seem to me your a young buck or chick and you need to live life alittle more before you go and try to explain yourself. Hey I have an Idea why don’t you go and buy rental properties right now they are at a steal of a deal now and put your money where your mouth is and be that savior of a landlord and make a difference. but make sure to look me up in about 5 years after your adventure and tell me how it went.
December 11th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
its immoral for a empty house to be empty, i agree with the sheriff
December 11th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
LOL! What a joke! How can ANYONE complain about this Sherriff’s actions when OUR GOVERNMENT is now in the process of BAILING-OUT the CORRUPTED BANKERS that DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY? While this Sherriff is simply DELAYING THE INEVITABLE evictions, the same thieves that robbed us are now being completely bailed-out and propped-up with our tax dollars!!!! Does anyone else see this as bullsh*t!?!?!?! If being given a grace period before inevitable homelessness is an incentive to continue non-payment, then I would THINK that a BAIL-OUT to an entire industry of corrupt bankers for DESTROYING OUR ECONOMY is a SUPER-INCENTIVE to continue ROBBING US!!!!
December 11th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
#88 (lol) It WAS me
. Seriously, I did live in Ohio (near Dayton) for a while, not knocking it….but it wasn’t for me. Also, I wouldn’t own rentals, simply for the reasons mentioned, and I’ve been around the block a time or two, it’s not my 1st rodeo.
You have to take the bad with the good in any venture. You can’t brag about making money in stocks, then complain when they drop……if ya can’t stand the heat, stay outta the kitchen.
You think your situation couldn’t change, to the point where perhaps it’s you being threatened with eviction? Don’t kid yourself, it could happen.
December 11th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Amen we have some people in Authority that will go against the bankers wishes, we need to distribute this literature to our local Sherrifs and State Police departments to plant a seed in their heads.
Lets take the intiative people because it might be you or I next,lets force our local Police to have compassion for those of us that are struggling due to these hard times we’re facing!!
The rich are getting richer while the little guy gets stomped into the dirt with his whole family,lets get the ball in motion people and send a copy of this to your local police department or village hall!!
Keep up the good work infowarriors we can beat them at their own nasty game!!
December 11th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
hey, lol…..i suspect you found your first “deadbeat” after 5 years…..seeing as you insist on 5 as a number of years to “look you up”….what is it in ohio law that keeps you safe for 5 years?…i am a renter and i’m sick of hearing about slumlords whining about their chosen profession…why don’t you sell your rentals to some maintainance company…and whine somewhere else while they repair what you let rot to the point that only deadbeats move in…..and yeah….you let them in so you reap what you sow….don’t tell me that you didn’t know anything about them…you seemed to be able to follow their activities AFTER they moved on….
December 11th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
lol…..that is the problem. You cannot understand what I am saying…even after reading it several times. “young buck/chick”? Would that mean you are an old geezer/battle axe?
I’ve got to say that most people of the baby boomer generation are quite brainwashed and, unfortunately, completely manipulated by the very structure they wish to uphold.
lol, I have given many things away that most people sell. Even expensive items that a person would need to travel to work in. If I did own more than one house I’d give it away. Unfortunately I do not even own (outright) the house that I currently live in. The bank owns most of it.
If I were in a position to do just as you suggested it would have been done as we speak.
People are human first, lol, and becasue of the way societies are designed, some are destined to be treated less than human. Just ask any person born into poverty or ethnic group that is not spelled with a”C”.
To be able to understand my post would mean that you would have to have two things. 1) a Heart 2) an open mind.
You’ve just spent your entire life going along prescribed lines. Someone said, “This is how we live.” and you never bothered to question what to “live” means. You never questioned those in positions of authority as to why they prescribe and define every aspect of our lives. Were you the one who came up with the idea of charging someone rent? I doubt it.
So, just because someone said that it was “ok” does it make it so? To answer that I would just look at the end result of families who are evicted due to a job loss or death of a spouse.
You see, that is an act of terror in and of itself. Just go ask the family that was turned out into the streets.
Terrorists we all are…in our own way. The good thing about all of this is that we will “reap what we sow”…..and that is exactly as it should be. Have you ever looked up the word “rent”? Have you ever questioned it’s origins? Probably not if you are profiting from it.
You will be homeless before too long, lol. It is the law of nature.
Peace……….
December 11th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Jamie, not all of us old timers are brain washed. I have been following this crap since before you were born. I saw through government as a kid in the 60s……………..
December 11th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
To Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones God Bless You, and protect you! I’m a Deputy in Texas, and I would only hope that my boss (Sheriff) would do the same thing. The banksters have already stolen money from hard working Americans, and now it’s time for those basterds to give Americans a break! After all they are responsible for this economic holocost, and that’s why many Americans have lost their jobs and are facing evictions! Way to go Sheriff!
December 12th, 2008 at 12:20 am
It’s ABOUT TIME Someone had some COMMON SENSE AND COMMON DECENCY. I’ve half a mind to drive to Ohio JUST to shake that Sherriff’s hand. (Before I lose my driver’s licence for TWO YEARS for crossing a highway with an ATV….
Actually… I just might do that.
December 12th, 2008 at 12:42 am
good for him! the a-hole in boston who ticketed the pregnant speeder should take notes from this guy.
i hope every bank in the USA goes under. wouldn’t it be great if we all just STOPPED paying bills? if the federal reserve can print money out of thin air and do fractional reserve lending, then these are nothing more than pieces of paper–numbers on a screen. just stop participating in their game and put 6 mos of mortgage payments into gold, GUNS and storeable food and run for the hills.
i’m about to do just that! and i BEG the banks to come find me…i’ll do to them what rockefeller’s pinkerton bastards did to farmers’ families in the 30’s. (”let the bodies hit the floor” by drowning pool–good shit!)
December 12th, 2008 at 12:46 am
I really usually have utter disdain for cops or Sheriff’s, if this sheriff is going on a limb, he is one of the few who are living up to the ethics that a cop is supposed to . This is putting himself on the line in front of his peers and many others who will shun him and he deserves a metal. All the best to him and his family. I hope that his rights are not destroyed for standing up for the rights of others. Because that is what he said he would do on his oath… Again I usually dislike cops “alot” !!!! i and all of us owe this “Man” a beer .. NJP
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December 12th, 2008 at 3:50 am
lol, your name says it all.
If you weren’t such a greedy fuck then you wouldn’t have that problem.
Whatever happened to people only owning one house?
I would like that to be a law instead of all this greed I hear about people having multiple property woes.
If you are more worried about making your payments on your investments than people being on the street then you sir are a property whore.
Jamie your posts were awesome and your vision is unparalleled.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:36 am
God Bless Sheriff Jones, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT he will end up laying dead on some back country road, naked with his eyes poked out and bruised from head to toe with a self inflicted shotgun blast in his back. The Coroner will record it as a sadistic psycho suicide. He’d better, if he knows what’s good for himself.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:11 am
Obvouisly you all miss the point. It seems most of you are renters on this message board mad that you have to pay rent and would like to have free living and this is what I am saying, 90% of the people that rent do not respect the appartment cause they do not own it. you all still do not answer the question why is it the property owners problem to house these people and since the sheriff is a state and county appointed employee why doesn’t he but them in his home ok and for all those that praise him have those people come to your homes and live with you lets see how long that last, and or public housing that is why it is there if they can never pay that is where they are going anyways he is just prolonging a bigger problem that is barreling down his back roads to where he will then have problems on booth sides. It seems you people are much more greedy than you think I am. you don’t know me and never will sames I don’t know you but I pretty much know your type, you just want to argue and prove that you have an empty point. So to make you all happy I now will be 110% much more of a dick of a slum lord and kick everyone out including babies in the dead of winter even if they are a day late on rent just because you think that is the way all landlords are I also will tell all my lanlord buddies todo the same and have them tell their buddies and so.
must of all of yous are the reason that I……….
LOL
December 12th, 2008 at 5:40 am
lol, sounds like you are making the assumptions not us renters.
If you can’t see the difference between hard times like now and other times no one can help you.
If you think you actually own something, then you don’t know much about property.
You at best are leasing from the government that will take your property at any time that you default on it.(not pay taxes\certain convictions).
When you draw lines and keep separating people: haves and have nots, you are falling in step with this globalist movement.
Forget the law and all the loopholes you have learned, and try to act human.
Thinking outside the box is more than a concept.
Just because others are acting like assholes doesn’t mean you have to be one.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:52 am
Grayrider, I was a kid in the 60’s as well. I am only young in my heart. I mean no disrespect nor do I intend for what I say to be taken personally. It is just a fact of our current lack of evolution.
This sheriff did something extraordinary. He stopped serving his masters (bankers=money and law breakers….I mean law makers) and started really serving humanity. This one action of compassion can cause a ripple effect; if only we will all stop being slaves to our master ……which, unfortunately, is money and the power we believe it gives us.
If money can make us do the things we do to each other then should we be using it? I like what some of you suggested about letting the banks go under. The only way to change the flow of the current is to redirect it’s course. Sometimes that means a complete 180 degree turn and this would mean that we would have to divorce ourselves from this dysfunctional society. I believe it can be done peacefully and without arms. I know that it can.
Wade, your post made me laugh, and, verticall, yours brought reality to roost. If we broke every business down to it’s core we would be ashamed of they way we make our “money”. Where do most of the gold and diamonds come from? Places where poverty and exploitation of that social position is rife no doubt. So every time we put a gold chain around our necks or diamond on our finger we are no doubt supporting some form of exploitation. Same for many other things that we take for granted.
If we would think deeply about what we do with our energy and time we might not even consider upholding the industries that make only a few wealthy while others remain a slave to it.
Again, the laws of nature are at work and everything will be exposed for what it really is…..exploitation.
I am sorry that you are out of work but I believe that if you look towards the future rather than the past you might be able to move away from depressing yourself. Self pity will only inhibit your ability to move forward….so I hope that you care enough about yourself to be the change in this world that you would like to see. I know that I care what happens to you. I have also been homeless and jobless ( alone with my sons ) among many other things in this life but can tell you that not one time did I ever feel self pity or allow myself to wallow in anything remotely close to that feeling. It was never an option as I knew that my sons depended on my inner courage and strength. You can find your inner courage, verticall. We all have it. It is a choice as to whether we will use it or not.
These times will call for true moral courage. The kind that is boundless and non insular. We can be each other’s rock to lean on no matter what our economic situation, but, we are taught that we are our money and without it we are nothing and have nothing. This is a lie. I know because when I did not have any “money” I was still jamie and very happy to be me.
If we could understand that we are as a chain and each link we suffer to weaken will, in the end, cause us to weaken and then break, then perhaps our lives would be spent in common pursuit of strengthening each link in our chain.
This sheriff did just this.
I wish everyone peace and inner courage during these times……..and a moral compass.
December 12th, 2008 at 6:19 am
“lol Says:
December 12th, 2008 at 5:11 am
Obvouisly you all miss the point. It seems most of you are renters on this message board mad that you have to pay rent and would like to have free living and this is what I am saying, 90% of the people that rent do not respect the appartment cause they do not own it. you all still do not answer the question why is it the property owners problem to house these people and since the sheriff is a state and county appointed employee why doesn’t he but them in his home ok and for all those that praise him have those people come to your homes and live with you lets see how long that last, and or public housing that is why it is there if they can never pay that is where they are going anyways he is just prolonging a bigger problem that is barreling down his back roads to where he will then have problems on booth sides. It seems you people are much more greedy than you think I am. you don’t know me and never will sames I don’t know you but I pretty much know your type, you just want to argue and prove that you have an empty point. So to make you all happy I now will be 110% much more of a dick of a slum lord and kick everyone out including babies in the dead of winter even if they are a day late on rent just because you think that is the way all landlords are I also will tell all my lanlord buddies todo the same and have them tell their buddies and so.
must of all of yous are the reason that I……….
LOL”
No, poor and lost LOL. It is you that misses the point and true meaning of what this Sheriff did with this one action of his. He had a choice to use either negative or positive energy and it is obvious that he choice to use his energy for a positive purpose.
No one is saying that you are a bad landlord but you take it personally what I say about the business of “renting” so this tells me alot about your actions and motives as a “landlord” ( have you ever studied that word, broken it down and defined each segment? )
I really feel sorry for you, LOL, and I am in no way being condescending. I really feel for you. You are obviously still smarting from your childhood devoid of love and stability and want to amplify that resentment in the world. It will never work out for you no matter how many people you terrorize….it will all come back to you, and that you are not aware of this cycle at this stage in your existence is quite frightening to watch. We are supposed to grow wise with age but that appears to be uncommon in the Western part of the world.
I agree with the poster who said if you do not like your circumstances then get out of the “business”. You sound like a toddler tantruming and that is disturbing…..but can be remedied with counseling and lots of love!
LOL, I will send love your way so that your tiny heart may grow.
Peace…………
December 12th, 2008 at 7:36 am
How many land owners bought homes over the past 5-10 years thinking they could make a living off of the labor of others? There were quite a few flashy tv show ad’s encouraging people to take action.
How many renters out there decided to watch tv or go to the bar instead of reading a book, gaining knowledge, and trying to effect what is happening in our country? This problem has been facing us for years and I have seen it coming.
If property was valued at it’s real worth (time spent on supplies, construction, maintainence), taxes for the government first had the option to pay in labor, and tenants negotiated a contract based on a fair price then all might be well to start with.
Both parties are ignorant to think someone else is going to build America for them.
December 12th, 2008 at 7:49 am
POST 109 What if I am renting to own from one of your buddies and they take my money and dont pay there bills? should I be thrown out into the streets as well? What if my credit is less than perfict but Im still able to pay the 1600.00 in rent and the payment to the bank is only 1000.00? should me and my family just be turned to the cold or should the Bank look at my payment history and make a deal with me? Not all people with bad credit dont pay there bills and I know you didnt say anything about that but what is your take on that? What if I had a busnessI started before all this down fall and ended up haveing to give it and my house up and find something else? Does that make me a person who doesnt pay his BILLS or someone who just ran into some bad luck. If I can pay 1600.00 a mounth on a home the Landlord only owes 1000.00 a mounth on then why should I be forced to leave? I agree If you dont pay your bills there are actions to take agianst that. But if you do pay then the people who dont should have to pay I hear of this alot In the state Im in And its wrong. Im an Army Vet not that matters and I dont think anyone should get anything for free including me!! But if I can pay dont pentilize me either because I dont own.
December 12th, 2008 at 8:49 am
“How many renters out there decided to watch tv or go to the bar instead of reading a book, gaining knowledge, and trying to effect what is happening in our country? This problem has been facing us for years and I have seen it coming.”
Solution……..do you know how to build a house? Make soap? Harness electricity? Harvest seed? Raise healthy children that do not grow up to repeat this vicious cycle of predator and parasitic behavior? These are the foundations of our very existence. Shelter food and family…..then technology.
I believe that most homeowners, much less renters, even understand what it takes to build a “house”. My sister and brother-in-law are such a case as their house (only 3 years old) is crumbling underneath them. If they had just gotten their contractors license before they signed that quarter million dollar contract they would not be fighting the “system”. They really should have read a book instead of shopping so much and attending church.
I’ve met many. many college educated people who are completely illiterate and ignorant to the things that matter most. If they could give out diplomas for being a decent human being then a college “education” with would be worth it’s weight in how much you are loved……not gold.
Renters are no more ignorant than the homeowner. Really, how stupid is it to pay interest on something that merely deteriorates with time? Most homes are built to last only 20 years since the early 90’s and that means just as you are paying off one mortgage you have to sign a second one to repair what is falling apart. This fact came straight from a contractors mouth.
The housing “industry” is like all other industries linked with insurance companies and banks. Can we say Mafia?
Materials are plentiful….there just happens to be a ransom on all of them. We are held hostage by the masters of the universe and then slowly strangled by those that serve them. Sick. Truly sick.
The solution would be to eradicate all profit from exploitative enterprises. SAFE housing, food and water are a necessity…..not a luxury.
Peace……
December 12th, 2008 at 9:00 am
11-Bravo. You’ve brought up a good subject. I’ve been reading about land”lords” who stop paying their mortgages and the renter is evicted. I have also heard about and know slum “lords” who charge exhorbitant prices for their shanties. Unethical and deplorable behavior to say the least.
The palying field is being leveled, albeit manipulated, but the results will, nontheless, be the same. Either we will design a new system that works for the betterment of mankind or we are doomed to watch our children devolve into animals….which is in the making with the amount of garbage they are assaulted with each and every day they live.
This issue of “evict or not to evict” is just the tip of this gargantuan iceburg melting in our own backyards.
Peace………
December 12th, 2008 at 9:58 am
#77 as a landlord, I could not agree with you more! I also could not have said those things better! People on these blogs have NO idea what its like to put $30,000 of their own hard earned money into a property to have it destroyed in WEEKS!!! They think owning properties means you are automatically “rich”! I work my ass off to keep my properties!!!! Why cant renters work just as hard to keep a roof over their head? As a women(not a mom), I am appalled that parents don’t work harder to keep a roof over their child’s head!
, you are absolutely right!!!! I know sheriffs that are landlords! They kick their tenants, even “good” ones, out for anything! I personally work with my tenants! I don’t want to kick anyone out in the cold! But I also know there are programs out there for tenants, especially during the winter months. And from reading your blogs to people I can see that we agree on A LOT!!!
#78 lol: Though not a “sir”
#79 Jamie When will people start being responsible for their OWN actions? I will agree that SOME banks and lenders were frauds and greedy! HELLO…. Don’t you listen to Alex’s show? The banks were purposefully causing this to happen!!!! My own parents foreclosed two years ago because they owed 210,000 on a 120,000 house! Yes, that was in part a really bad lender and appraiser but, don’t you think they knew their house was not actually worth 210,000? You are a SICK! The only thing you know about landlords came from what you MADEUP in your own sick head!!! I work a “REAL” job!!! I work about 80 hours a week plus work on my properties! Why? So I can pay my bills! Because I am taking responsibility to pay my mortgages when my tenants don’t pay rent! Yes, there ARE bad landlords out there but get your head out of the clouds, there are good one too! There is not an once in me that feels guilty when I have done ALL I could have to help someone else and I need to evict so I can put food on families table!
#81 Amen!!!
#92 house: as another landlord like lol, it is a VERY real reality that us landlords may be loosing our properties!
#98 verticall: would love to know when you got 24hrs to move your thing… renters have more right in WI than owners, there is a process! Did you not show up for court when you were being evicted? Did you not get another job when you lost yours?
#111 bravo neither lol or I are taking about good tenants! We are trying to open your eyes to what really happened in some rental properties. And its not about punishing non owners! I, and im sure lol, would be the landlords you would want if there is a situation like that. Working with tenants when they are having a bad month. But please try to think, when you are having a bad month and cant pay your bills, that affects us paying our bills for that property you are living in and who is helping us? I guess I was raised that you ALWAYS pay your housing bill first! If anyone think that lol, myself or other property owners, have not had hard times, your wrong!!! But people like us will fight to the very end! Fighting for what we worked hard for!
Here is an overall point: Anyone of you who want to spend some time doing a landlords job, I would be happy to take you along for the ride! Within a day you WILL change your thinking!!!
December 12th, 2008 at 10:05 am
you should try sleeping on the cold as streets with absolutely nothing it sucks royal asses!!!!
December 12th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Sheriff Jones is a hero!
May the people join him to support & protect him and his deputies!
December 12th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Richard Jones is a compassionate human being. God Bless Him!!!!
December 12th, 2008 at 10:43 am
To number 114, wi landlord, you are a heartless sociopath. You can drop dead, and make the world a little nicer!
December 12th, 2008 at 11:15 am
#114: I have been a landlord and I wouldnt put anyone out in the cold! I takes a cold, greedy, sinister heart to do that! At least wait till warmer weather to take action!
December 12th, 2008 at 11:47 am
I think it depends on the circumstances. Yes, for some landlords their rental property is a large portion of their investments and rent payment is priority number 1. But 2 examples come to mind when thinking of action, on one hand you could have a new tenant, who doesnt pay their first months rent, has had complaints from neighbors etc. Then, you could also have a tenant whose been renting for much longer, whose never missed a payment before and whose been taking a hit by recent events. Don’t atleast one of these cases require some sympathy? I think so. I also think communication with your tenants is important to try and work something out before throwing down the hammer.
December 12th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Where the hell do you guys get off thinking you’re the ONLY TWO people on the WWW who own rentals?? Boo-freakin-hoo. Look at how the majority here see you, and you brought it upon yourselves. I tried being civil, but when someone thinks they’re high & mighty, or better than ANYONE else on the face of the earth, well…then I’ll say this, KISS MY ASS! because you aren’t, and I don’t give a shit how many rentals you have….I hope you lose every damn one of them, and are tossed into the streets in a blizzard!
December 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
To momo #118 to claudia # 119 to house #121 some of you have not been following the blogs on this site. I totally agree with what that sheriff did! Sticking it to the banks that are screwing over the American people, could not agree more! But, the only point I was ever trying to make is: there is another side to EVERY story. And you could ask any one of my tenants, I am far from a “heartless sociopath” and if I “dropped dead” the world would not be a nicer place. I DON’T kick out my tenants in the middle of a cold WI winter, I work hand in hand with my tenants to make sure they and their children have the things they need! I and other landlords go WAY beyond the “call of duty”. Before my own house has heat, my rentals do, before my own house has blinds, my rentals do, before I eat dinner, I make sure my tenants kids have food on their table. And weather a tenant of mine has been with me for 1 month or 4 years, I work with them! Thinking you know someone by a few comments made on the net is crazy! I would NEVER judge someone or ever think I was “high & mighty” We ALL need to use the energy we give forth from criticizing others to reclaiming our country!!! History is being made right now! Future generations may never know the great America that we know! Maybe that’s what we should focus on instead of wishing bad things to happen to good people! Lets wish that the very people who got this country into this situation learn to regret it! Lets not wish that good landlords loose their properties and get thrown out into a blizzard but that the very people bringing down this country get thrown into jail!
December 12th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Ok.That makes one good Sheriff, now we need one from every County in the country and we have a better chance. He CAN call out the Militia to defend the Constitution. Next we need sitting Judges.
December 12th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
i know it seems cold blooded to throw people out during winter months but if you could look a lil deeper into the lives of the people that are being thrown out, you will probably find that there are some self centered financial decisions on they’re part to end up this way. i dont think it is the problem of landlords to take care of those who dont pay their rent. where the hell did it become the landlords problem to take care of full grown adults? how about those that disagree get to step in and bring these “non rent paying folks” into their own homes and put your money where your big uninformed mouths are. how the heck are people going to learn how to survive if there are no consequences for bad choices? if this is the case, why dont we all stop paying rent, why should the dumb shits reap alll the f%*%cking benefit of someone who did the right hting and made good choices and worked hard for what they have? your logic is backward. the rent still has to be paid even if the tenant doesnt, whos going to pay that? THE FREAKIN LANDLORD!! and this is fair? not hardly. let the dumb shits that dont pay rent live where they can afford OR work harder and smarter to get out of it. or we can do it your way, and EVERYONE gets to stop paying rent and wait for the redistibution of wealth to commence from our new dear leader that promised it. FOOL!!!
December 12th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
nbtrouble: read the comments. i brought up the subject on pg 6! and all thats been said except of few comments from other landlords is that i should “drop dead”! can you believe that? I just cant believe that people who have NEVER rented from me and have NO idea what kind of person i am can say such things off a few comments posted on the net! I decided LONG ago that i would not get knocked up, that i would make a life from myself. I have done good things with my success! I have been a good landlord! and because i chose to become something, refuse to live off the government and have that control my life, i am a bad person! I actually think the people who are writing those comments are the ones who need help!
The people on here just don’t understand that landlords are not making money off peoples misery! And they certainly don’t understand that it is NOT a landlords job to pay for people to live for free just cause they rent for them!
December 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
response to WI. i think the people that are saying the landlords are the “bad guys” are teh ones who have no clue how an economy works and have probably never done anything financialy positive in their lives and are now suffering for it. personaly, i think its flat out jealousy in alot (not all) of cases. they see us driving big cars, having rentals, eating out in nice restaurants and having discretionary income and they hate us for it. hate us for working hard and doing our time in the poor house and turning it into something productive and producing benefit. i know i invested everything i had into a small business that is now doing well. im not rich, but i DO take responsiblity for myself. and that means feeding myself and keeping a roof over my OWN head. i went without cable, a cell phone, i stayed home, i bot nothing i didnt absolutely need to survive or less. and now when i finaaly get to reap some kind of benefit, you people think i should give it away to someone who dug their own hole and fell in it? that attitude of entitlement is what is ALSO killing this country. its the greed and wanting of something that belongs to someone else and wishing to take it by force = stealing = part of the problem, not the solution = bullshit
December 12th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
#122- See, you think they “stuck it to the banks”….always about cash to you, isn’t it? A bank wouldn’t do anything with the house for MONTHS anyway, so who cares if they stay in it? You claim to be so smart & informed, yet you can’t see past your wallet.
You sure seem to be talking out of the other side of your face now. You REALLY expect me to believe for a second you’d give-up YOUR food to feed the child of a tenant? BS! Go back & read your own condesending posts.
YOU were the one spouting how “no one” but you & lol understands the rental game, whoopee-freakin’-do! Yet you’re concerned about others “judging” you? Hypocrite! If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck……
I didn’t wish a “good landlord” get thrown out into a blizzard, I wished it upon YOU. Your earlier post said you had $30,000 in a rental…boy, that must be one high-class rental, sounds to me like you’re an admitted slumlord, probably renting strictly to Section 8/HUD, meaning you’re being overpaid with taxpayers money for a dump.
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nbtrouble Says:
December 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
response to WI. i think the people that are saying the landlords are the “bad guys” are teh ones who have no clue how an economy works and have probably never done anything financialy positive in their lives and are now suffering for it. personaly, i think its flat out jealousy in alot (not all) of cases. they see us driving big cars, having rentals, eating out in nice restaurants and having discretionary income and they hate us for it. hate us for working hard and doing our time in the poor house and turning it into something productive and producing benefit. i know i invested everything i had into a small business that is now doing well
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Once again, it’s all about the almighty dollar isn’t is! Truth be known, neither of you probably have a pot to piss in. I hope you have a shitload of rentals, “big fancy cars”, I hope you have to go to the bank in a armored car……because after it’s all taken from you, your lives will hold no value, there will be no reason for living because it will then be obvious to you that you’re no damn better than anyone here you enjoy talking down to.
OMG!!! How could you LIVE without cable TV, or a cell phone?? Hell son, you should have your own TV Survival show!!
So the next meal you eat at one ‘o them thar fancy ristarents (probably White Castle)……choke on it!
December 12th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Wow, this is getting ugly. WI lord, I never said anything about you or anyone persoanlly but you attacked mt ….then got upset when someone said you were a sociopath (Momo, you read my mind).
All landlords are sociopaths and just do not know it yet. In time, when the economy has crashed, they will feel the burden of their empty homes, and that is as it should be.
Oh,nbtrouble, you are so silly. Money, luxury cars and the portfolios are an illusion. It is usually the people with low self esteem who try to acquire things which they believe will provide them with security…..I know I did just that and became very sucessful. I even mingled with some very high profile people and had many adventures in my life but they pale in comparison to what really matters. I’ve really been blessed with being in the right place and at the right time. My friends are powerful and ecclectic. They come from many walks of life. Envy a sociopath? I think that not very likely.
As for the renters who destroy property. Hmmmmmm…..what is the difference between you and them? Perhaps you were raised to believe that you were valuable or special? Perhaps they were not. Perhaps you were priveledged to be born “white” and they were not……or maybe they were.
I’ve worked with many people from all walks of life and I can tell you that the only thing that seperates you from them is the fact that you have a sense of “entitlement”….for whatever reason.
There are deep psychological factors behind what motivates us to do what we do in this life. They stem from our environment and other personal factors.
I really feel for you. One day, perhaps in the not too distant future, you will become a real person instead of a wooden puppet. I wish you luck.
Peace…….
December 12th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
wi landlord
we need to figuar out a way to connect from out of here. I am tired of speaking to empty minds on here.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
lol Says:
December 12th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
wi landlord
we need to figuar out a way to connect from out of here. I am tired of speaking to empty minds on here.
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Just wait for your next family reunion. Sounds like love is in the air……hope you too will be happy together.
December 12th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
its pointless to try and make this point because there is a psychological game being played on all of us by the media. separating the haves and the have nots. what is the best way discovered in history to conquer the people? to divide them! i know all who are blogging here probably listen to the alex jones show, does it look like this is whats happening? we are divided on sooo many levels and personaly, i dont like it. i know what its like on both sides and its sooo not worth fighting about like this. i am sitting here wishing i could come up with the magical thing to say to get everyone here to just put aside all of the mind wash they have suffered (including myself) and come together for a common cause. but, being an elequant speaker is not one of my god given gifts like it is for alex. i love and respect all walks of life on any income level, any color male or female. i pray that we all snap out of this and work to save this country and restore our republic. revolution is coming, how are we going to fight them, if THEY have US divided? and by fight i mean legislatively doing our part as true red blooded americans. NONE OF US WOULD BE IN THIS BOAT IF IT WASNT FOR……THEM. please dont lose sight of what true reality really is, a coming new world order that intends to enslave us all rich and poor. God bless
December 12th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
No revolution is possible untill the “authorities” have joined in the rebellion.
It is incouraging to see.
God save America!
December 13th, 2008 at 12:05 am
# 80 Really Truth making a straw man
That God send Sheriff may be the antiviral cell-brain-new-active-program that America needs to flush out this parasitic Trojan horse, virus called the NWO-banksters-endgame-vs-2008
Like an infected Windows® computer, America must be reformatted to exterminate the cancerous corporate virus and must be rebooted using free Linux operating system. I think the user guide manual of liberty and freedom for idiots was written in 1776 by natural hemp growing wise men.
Revolution: It only takes a spark
December 13th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
House
don’t be jealous, cause great minds think alike and in your case empty ones some how connect also.
December 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
nbtrouble, your sentiment is honorable, but, our country and what it was founded on was not. It never was a “great country” and it never will be as long as exploitation and manipulation are used to subvert and divide.
I do not understand why anyone cannot see through the flaws of the Constitution. It was written by old white freemasons who held slaves. I call that hypocrisy to speak about something but do the opposite. One was only “free” if they were white , male and property owners (indentured servitude was a common practice in those good old days as well).
Who in their right mind would honor such a system. It was good in theory but never, in the history of our nation, was it actually put into practice. Not even in these times.
If killing off an indigenous peoples to grab their lands is “greatness” then I’d rather be counted out. Again, manipulation of historical facts for personal gain. This is an insular system of belief and needs to go. All countries and peoples are as great as their actions….not their spending habits. We have a long history of social sickness and are only now awakening to the truth of our world.
Somebody, please tell me how one can call our country great when children are used as profit? Where children are exposed to things that cause illness in adults? I hear of heinous things happening to children everyday in this “great” nation and can find not one redeeming thing to save about such a society.
I hope that only one thing comes out of this collapse and that is a new society designed around the needs of the children. Not the other way around. I know that it will and it is only a matter of time now.
This is why we will never come together as a whole. At least I will never fight to uphold this dysfunctional and perverted society. It needs to go.
I’ve always heard, “choose your battles well” and can say that is exactly what I am doing. Nothing is worth fighting for that perpetuates an antiquated way of being in a “civilization” that serves no higher purpose other than self satisfaction.
Peace……..
December 13th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
lol Says:
December 13th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
House
don’t be jealous, cause great minds think alike and in your case empty ones some how connect also.
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Wrong O Wise Fudgepacker…..my mind is “individual”. It belongs to ME and ONLY ME! I know that’s an impossible concept for you & your zombie friend to grasp. So go meet your little “friend” at some sleazy roadside motel, and admire the NWO over a candlelight dinner. You are OBVIOUSLY in a much higher class than us here.
Just remember to push your buddies stool in………..
December 14th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
………….. Of course, I am a true gentalmen
December 14th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
When people see the truth they will see that there is only one thing left to us as citizens of humanity not just america. The evil that lurks behind the curton is identified, named and its deeds are documented for all to see, then we as citizens of humanity need to rise up in fury the likes of which as not been seen for centuries, to utterly destroy this evil completly and forever. It meens that our children and grandchildren will see it with there own eyes which is unfortunate, but nessecary so that this evil can never rise again, and never let it be forgotten that humanity was almost destroyed forever. The evil (NWO) owns the government, the justice system, the media outlets, and most powerful of all our election process, then we all around the world need to rise in a world revolution to bring piece to humanity, or we will all die in there perscribed order. The time is now. The cost will be great, But the end result will be forever
December 14th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
When people see the truth they will see that there is only one thing left to us as citizens of humanity not just america. The evil that lurks behind the curton is identified, named and its deeds are documented for all to see, then we as citizens of humanity need to rise up in fury the likes of which as not been seen for centuries, to utterly destroy this evil completly and forever. It meens that our children and grandchildren will see it with there own eyes which is unfortunate, but nessecary so that this evil can never rise again, and never let it be forgotten that humanity was almost destroyed forever. The evil (NWO) owns the government, the justice system, the media outlets, and most powerful of all our election process, then we all around the world need to rise in a world revolution to bring piece to humanity, or we will all die in there perscribed order. The time is now. The cost will be great, But the end result will be forever.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Forget Alex Jones, RICHARD JONES, for president. Protect this man he is in danger, looking out for the people, what nerve!