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Oregon Bill Would Outlaw Pit Bulls, Euthanize Them
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Meghan Kalkstein
KATU
February 28, 2009
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PORTLAND, Ore. – A new bill on pit bulls that hasn’t even hit the Senate floor yet is already getting a lot of heat from folks on both side of the issue.
Under a bill from Sen. Bruce Starr’s office, owning a pit bull would be illegal in Oregon and the state would punish those who own one by euthanizing the dog, slapping the owner with thousands of dollars in fines and perhaps even throwing them in jail. And if your pit bull killed someone? Then you could be fined $125,000, spend five years in jail or both.
Those who already own a pit bull would be grandfathered in, so to speak. They would have to obtain a permit to keep the pit bull (for a fee) and provide a certificate from a veterinarian showing that the dog had been sterilized.
Here is the summary that is laid out in the draft of the bill:
Prohibits keeping of pit bull. Creates exception for pit bulls currently in state upon meeting certain conditions. Declares pit bull dangerous dog and makes keeping of pit bull punishable by euthanization of dog and by maximum of $6,250 fine, one year’s imprisonment, or both. If dog kills person, punishes by maximum of $125,000 fine, five years’ imprisonment, or both. Read the entire bill (pdf)
The bill has not had a first reading on the Senate floor yet. That is expected in a week or two.
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February 28th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Alex,everyone, PLEASE, share this information,
WARNING! Water rationing days away in CALIFORNIA. Says Mayor Villaraigosia just heard the news report on mainstream talk radio 640KFI.
California first than the rest of the South Western part of the U.S.
On March 1, farms in Northern CA will have there irrigation systems turned off for three weeks.
No food no water!
If California goes so goes smaller more helpless states.
This is heartbreaking its as though someone wants to STARVE us out. I would be careful accepting there water rationing devices because ‘they’ will be able to control them remotely.
Good luck, guys!
http://www.businessgreen.com/b.....g-pipeline
kenneth lay Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Cali water ‘crisis’ is bull just like enron. Remember when they turned off your power and lied about scarcity of energy and charged you out your ass?
Jordan Maxwell Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
This is such crap. Dogs are NOT bad. Especially Pit Bulls, all the ones I know are lovers not fighters. If a dog is bad it is 100% the fault of the OWNER.
birgit Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:59 pm
It is not the dogs…IT IS THE s--- BAGS who own them that make them crazy and aggressive.
It there are no pitbulls, they will turn another breed into crap…Like Filas…look em up!
IT IS A PEOPLE PROBLEM- euthanize the owners who make these dogs “bad”
convict upon commission of a REAL crime, not pre emptive, before they do it to people.
Call insurance compaies to get real stat’s on what breed bites most!! it aint pitbulls….
Whammo Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Take away the guns, take away the loyal dogs that will protect their owners. Same purpose.
breezyanne80 Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Dog racism. That’s effed up!
Dred Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
they just pushed my last button!! i live in oregon and have the most loving loyal smart dog. and guess what breed it is. this is BULL s---, the only reason pits get a bad rap is because of the scare tactics of the media. I urg everyone to youtube search pit bulls or google search them and you will find out the true facts about pits. they are no more dangerous than a golden retriever. its all on how you raise them. My last dog was a dalmation and she was way more vicious than my pit. the worst my pit will do is lick the s--- out of you.
Cb Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
African americans are responsible for more violent crimes in american.
See where i’m going with this…
February 28th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I live in Oregon, and first of all, the nation is in meltdown mode, Oregon is at 10% unemployment (probably 15% would be the real truth), and a senator is spending all this time and money on f**cking pitbulls??? Has the world gone mad???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOJc0w-fzY
michael vick Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Hey, that’s what I did after I used them up in the pits! I’m in jail for that!
the government Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
But we are god!
fender guitars rule Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
if this is true you have no soul,and are a walking corpse full of cruelty and poison God has a special place in His jail waiting for you
absorbs Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I agree we have really big problems facing us right now and this is what their spending their time on, Pit bulls are the all american dog. Are we going to start banning German shepherds Doberman’s, rottweilers and other large dogs!!
mikhail ivanovich Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
I don’t think that Dobermann’s will be banned, they were breed by a German tax collector. Pay your taxes our get chewed on by my dogs, two or three at a time.
John Henke Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:35 am
I’d rather deal with them than the IRS!
REB Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Yes …all dogs and cows and horses and birds and……………National Animal ID System….total control over all animals!
Nacio Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Yes it has gone mad, beyond redemption….
February 28th, 2009 at 10:17 am
I was once attacked by a pit bull named Lucky. He was owned by a friend of mine. He got past her and almost drowned me in slobber! He could have seriously injured me licking my face like that! Seriously folks, get over it. There isn’t a right to own a dangerous animal now? Last I heard all animals from parakeets to elephants to amoeba are dangerous in some way or other, so what now? This will be another issue done like gun rights, chip away a breed at a time. Sooner or later you’ll have to keep that toy poodle of yours in a cage next to the chihuahua’s. And there is no “right to keep and love pets” in the constitution. Sorry to see you go the way of the gun owners, but the law doesn’t want good, effective guard animals in the hands of criminals anymore. Figure it out, you are now an irresponsible, nut job, criminal in this country until proven that you’re a cop or other privileged individual. Go figure out what else you own that might help you in a defensive situation and hide it now before they start in on those kitchen knives!
Gary Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I have one better. My dog is an “exotic” breed. She’s 50% Doberman and 50% Pit Bull. Scary? If you say her name, her ears go down, tail goes down, she comes and licks your hand. My 3-year-old nephew can walk her with a leash. But she barks whenever anything or anybody comes near the yard. That’s all I need. I can take care of the rest. I don’t need a guard dog. I have an “alarm” dog.
My dog lives in the house with me. She is a part of my home. She is clean, healthy, obedient, well fed and gets filtered water (Berkey). I have put a lot of time, money and energy into making this dog the perfect pet. She is my most prized possession. I would rather lose my house and my car than my dog. If you come to euthanize my dog, you’d better fear me and not the animal.
But I made sure that the vet put “Doberman Mix” on the certificate and not “Pit Bull.” I know all about human ignorance. Here’s a perfect example. My neighbors (two ladies) came over from across the street. They had a couple of young dogs they were looking for homes for. They’d watched me spending time with my own dog, playing and training and goofing off. My dog came outside and the ladies were just loving her. I showed them all her tricks, they petted her and loved on her. Then I told them the breeds. When I mentioned “pit bull” one of the ladies almost swooned. I swear, I thought she was gonna fall down. She became terrified, backed up against my car. And of course my dog became alarmed at her weird behavior. She barked one time – then the other lady fell under the evil spell of my pit bull mix. She also backed up in fear. I had my dog come and sit beside me. She was fine, but the two ladies left and have never been back.
Y’all help dispell this stupid myth about “pit bulls.” They are indeed a most awesome breed. They are great with kids. I was bitten by a dog when I was 2. I had to have 9 stitches on my face. The breed? 100% Beagle. It tore me up and had to be put down. A Beagle. The only other time I was bitten by a dog was by a Golden Retriever, pure bred but with an awful owner.
singledad1234 Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
amen
dangerous dogs
i have a rather large german shepherd
the neighbour had a pit bull
the key word their is had
we are friends we are neighbours
the question is who had the vicious brutal killer dog?
cause it sure was not my neighbour
my cousin has a pit bull
it plays with his moms toy poodles
and has NEVER HURT THEM IN EIGHT YEARS
assholes that raise pits to fight
are assholes
PERIOD
Nacio Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
The most dangerous dogs run the streets in and around DC.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 am
very good gary
WeeBee Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:56 am
This bill has more problems than “Carter has Pills” [dating myself here].
1 & the biggest: DEFINE PITBULL! Is it a breed, then you need pedigrees & bloodlines. Is it a type? Then you need a detailed, specific, standard that identifies ONLY pitbulls [GOOD LUCK].
2: If it is a breed, what registry is going to be used?
3: If it is a type, WHO makes the determination?
4: HOW will the determination be made? Law enforcement? Veterinarian? Court?
5: What about OTHER “vicious breeds”, Preso Canerio, Rottweiler, Doberman, Chihuahua?
6: How can ANY defining standard be made exclusive to one particular type of dog without overlapping into other breeds or ALL dogs? Short answer – IT CAN’T!
And what of other dangerous looking dogs; Staffordshire Terrier, English & American Bulldog, Boxer?
Instead of making laws against specific animals how about making laws against vicious dogs and the damage they do. Then if ANY breed of dog performs acts of mayhem on people & society the OWNER & HANDLER will be suitably punished! REMEMBER – ALL DOGS MAY ATTACK. MOST DOGS ARE CAPABLE OF KILLING PEOPLE. THE OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DOG. HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
Dred Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Staffordshire Terrier = Pit bull, American Pit bull terrier.
WeeBee Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:09 pm
So is that the ONLY dog to be affilicted by this crappy chunk of legislative tripe? And the Staffordshire Terrier is an ENGLISH breed. Hence the name Staffordshire. The American Pit Bull Terrier may be a UKC registery animal, but quite AMERICAN in breeding.
Staffordshire Terrier NOT= Pit bull, American Pit bull terrier.
Keep in mind if you want to discuss dogs, I was been in the dog industry for over 15 years.
WeeBee Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Dred, went back & double checked my books, here’s what I got: The Staffordshire Terrier is an English breed, the American Pit Bull was DERIVED from the Staffordshire Terrier. Then there’s the American Staffordshire Terrier, derived from BOTH. This one is the “classic” Pit Bull Terrier. So, which one of us is right? Me? You? Both? Neither?
This only underscores the inane insanity of this proposed law. The definition of “Pit Bull” will degenerate into a lot of legal bull. Specific breed…breed type…breed “family”… Why not declare ALL canines in the state banned. That would be the ONLY way to prevent all dog attacks. Fat chance of that happening!
Dred Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 am
I was going from the chart I seen at the vets office. Either way I will still tell people he is a Stafordshire terrier when someone asks what breed he is. ( so they dont get terrified) I really hope this bill gets trashed soon. If it doenst there going to have a hell of a legal battle proving my dog is a pit bull or a threat to society. Can they tell a pure breed by its DNA?
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
he is trying to say that pitbull is a rather loose grouping of dogs…..could include 25 breeds….
February 28th, 2009 at 10:22 am
How much easier is it to enter your home (stormtroopers) if you don’t have dogs or guns . . .
Nacio Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Got all that right Rick
February 28th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Well, when ever I see a pittbull my gut reaction is the thing ought to be shot. They are dangerous, they are menacing, they are ugly, and they send out a message along the lines of, “My owner has a pathological inferiority complex.” So, while it seems a crazy thing for the “authorities” to pole their noses into, I sure wouldn’t miss the pittbulls if they were gone.
Ron Paul is teaching Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 10:43 am
well then pressa’s and german shepherds
and all other large aggresive breeds should be gone too
-0- Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
it’s unfair to punish an animal because it’s owner has “a pathological inferiority complex”. i think the authorities see killing pittbulls as another was to disarm the public. you might not miss them if they were gone but im sure the owners that love them would.
Iggy Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Jo, you are ignorant!!! I own 2 Bull Terriers, both female, 1 is 12 yrs old the other is 1 yr old. I have 3 young boys(4,7&9) who jump on them, pull thier tails, wrestle with them and love and feed them. Unfortunately, my “inferiority complex” won’t let me tell you how much of an asshole you sound like, but I can assure you that even on my dogs’ worst day, they’re definitely not as UGLY as you!!!
grace Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:33 pm
That’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard. UGLY?? the ugliest dogs are those stupid little toy breeds that idiots carry around in their purses. ABPTs were THE American dog back in the day. Seriously just look up how many “pitbulls” were mascots in america a few decades ago! UGH give me a break!! The nicest dogs I’ve ever met have been pits….the worst?? Chihuahuas, beagles, pommeranians(sp?), etc…. Small dogs just allow irresponsible owners to not have to worry about their pet killing anyone. its not the dog! if half the chihuahuas i ever met were the size of a pitbull i would be dead.
Huck Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
I have no feelings either way except what I’ve heard. We always kept
dogs on the farm for hunting and herding. They stayed outdoors, (where
all large heavy breed dogs belong) except in cold weather, were well-
behaved and earned their keep.
However my uncle’s neighbors were a young couple with an infant baby.
One day the Mom had to run down to the store for formula or some dire
need and left her pit bull watching the baby in its crib. She was gone 10
minutes and when she came back the dog had chewed the baby to death.
It was the same old “Oh, it never showed any violent tendencies before!”
And “It’s a sweet old dog that couldn’t hurt anyone”. Well that “sweet old
dog” murdered their baby because certain breeds have the inbred nature
to kill. For heaven’s sake, THAT is why people keep breeds like Rottweilers,
Dobermans, Mastiffs & Pit Bulls. Everyone knows they can kill someone
when necessary.
When I was a kid 50 years ago I never knew what a Pit Bull or a Rottweiler
dog was. Nobody we knew kept such dogs out of consideration for their
neighbors. Everybody we knew had Collies, Beagles, Retrievers, Jack
Russells and Bloodhounds. Once in a great while somebody would get a
minor dog bite but there were never the vicious attacks you hear about
since people began keeping the dangerous breeds.
I love all kinds of dogs and they love me for some odd reason. I’ve never
had a minute’s trouble with my neighbors’ Pit Bulls or Rottweilers. But I
know, as everyone else should, that inbred nature is always there. Seems
like keeping killer dogs became a fad about 20 years ago, (same time the
NeoCons really started taking over everything).
Dred Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 am
So u make the assumption “the owner has a pathological inferiority complex” because you have a bias against a breed of dog? Obviously you know nothing about pit bulls, you just assume you do. Not all pitbull owners got there dog because they want to have a mean or tough dog. Pit bulls are classic rural american dog. They were once used to herd livestock on farms, they have a better sense of smell than a german shepherd, and are very smart problem solving dogs. they learn very fast. Every pitbull i have ever been around was a very loving animal. Any dog that is trained to be vicious will be. It doesnt matter if its a retriever, lab or a pit. get a F’in clue before you speak nonsense.
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I think you hit the nail on the head with everything you said.
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
that was for JO btw, he nailed you mofos!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 am
no s---? spiro?……..nice name also, are you in special education, spiro?
February 28th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I have a better idea. Outlaw legislators that come up with stupid ideas like this one did. This would be reason enough to either move out of that state or never move in depending on your circumstances. I don’t own a pit bull but have (3) dogs of my own. I see pit bulls all the time in my line of work going in people’s houses and although I’m a little cautious……….. they have all been really gentle. or, the ones outside chained up, i simply kept my distance.
It’s not the dog, it’s the owner and how they are trained. however, if some idiot raises a pit bull for the sole purpose of fighting……..throw his ass in jail and throw away the keys. then make him break big rocks into little ones all day while he’s incarcerated. there’s no excuse for that kind of Michael Vick behavior. cherish your animals……..don’t breed them for fighting!
February 28th, 2009 at 10:45 am
when People stop breeding for fighting maybe then they will quit with the dogs
WITHOUT god people dont know how to love
boxing hockey fights
etc its all part of the nature of SICK HUMANS I am better
I am faster I am stronger I am tougher
my dog can beat your dog etc etc
February 28th, 2009 at 10:46 am
The misuse of terminology is part of the reason ignorant people are afraid of Bull Terriers. The truth is, an animal abuser can turn just about any breed into a “pit bull”. That name came about from training dogs like Boxers(a relative of Bull Terriers), Rottweilers, etc to PIT FIGHT. Calling all Bull Terriers Pit Bulls is like calling all insects flies. I have a Bull Terrier, and she is the sweetest most loyal dog I’ve ever had. This is a bukake story, and whoever the sickos are who are introducing this legislation should be euthanized.
February 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
This whole situation is ‘rich’ (in more ways than one). Here’s my assessment of the situation, and it’s based on personal responsibility/liability.
If a person owns ANY dog breed and said dog causes harm to property and/or persons, then the dog shall be killed (1st offense) and the owner will be liable to pay monetary damages.
If a dog owner uses a dog as a ‘weapon’, willfully and knowingly (for e.g., ’sics’ his dog on an innocent party) then that dog owner shall be punished according to the damage caused. If death results then, upon conviction, that dog owner shall be put to death.
BUT if the owner ’sics’ the dog on a burglar (for e.g.) or another threatening him with death or bodily harm then he shall be blameless.
Let’s keep the money to the government out of it! After all this new, legislative monstrosity is all about revenue generation! More taxes for the serfs to shoulder!
One note to the lady interviewed in the story..you’re the OWNER of your dog, not its “parent”! ha Humans can only be the parents of other HUMANS! Oregon..they’re getting what they deserve, it would seem. Godless leftists do only 3 things well..in fact these are the new “3-Rs” in their statist, govt. schools: 1. Reproduce 2. Regulate 3. Recycle
That’s all, folks! Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado (now, go and play with your pitbull!)
cyber2ooth Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
The trouble is, there aren’t any other breeds. The pit bulls ate them all. (joke) I agree, but that ain’t gonna happen. All we can do in this country is pass laws and more laws. We’re oppressed by laws.
February 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I adopted a pitbull from a shelter. It was the sweetest, most loyal animal I ever had. If you treat them right they are great animals.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am
now how come the animal lovers who say the argument against pitbulls is stupid will use the same logic against guns?
February 28th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I’m pissed over this one. We will not stand for this! I have two pitties and I love em like my children.
-0- Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
the pittbulls i have been around have been extremely loving, playful and protective of their owners. they have made me want a dog of my own.
singledad1234 Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
in ontario they said they would not stand for it too
guess what THEY ARE BANNED
period
February 28th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Ok to own the dogs not for criminalization for ownership. However if your dog injures someone or someone’s pet you should get sued until you have nothing left. You own the dog, you are 100% responsible for the dog’s behavior. PERIOD !
-0- Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
i agree.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Pitbulls only have a bad rep. because of people Like Micheal Vick and the illegal gangbang thugs. these people are the problem euthanize them. I have a American Staffordshire Terrier a loyal, loving member of my family. She wouldn’t hurt a fly. Also the AKC has about eight different breeds listed as a pitbull so who say’s what a pitbull really is?
singledad1234 Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
government people are stupid
when you call the name by the real name
they say OH ok looks like a pit bull but its not
oh ok
stupid idiots
February 28th, 2009 at 11:25 am
take it from a proffesional trainer…these are the best dogs in the world. they are incredibly loving and have better temperments than golden retreivers! these articles make me so mad. they are such loving dogs and stupid ignorant people abuse them and give them a bad name.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Here’s mr. bruce barr’s contact info–
Session Address:
900 Court St. NE, S-411
Salem, OR 97301
Session Phone:
503-986-1715
Trash irresponsible owners are the problem, not the breed.
Even if you don’t live here they will come for your babies next.
This bill MUST BE CRUSHED!! NOW!!
Chris Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
starr, bruce STARR
February 28th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Doesn’t Oregon have legal doctor-assisted suicide? If the state has no respect for human life, how can it respect the life of a dog?
February 28th, 2009 at 11:59 am
In my opinion, convicted felons or anyone on parole should not have pitbulls. Dogs usually just mimic the behavior of their owners. Even if they are an aggressive breed, they can be trained to not attack people. It should be noted, however, that dogs like pitbulls can snap for no reason.
Iggy Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
People snap for no reason! Lets euthanize them
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Nah lets euthanize YOU!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 am
you just keep popping up, like that turd that wont flush….bye bye turd
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:30 am
euthanize you too
jazzyjeff Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:24 am
way to keep em on their feet, spiro. Your wit is astounding.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Obama’s Homeland Security chief shilling for an enhanced REAL ID is “Change We Can Believe In”, and forced euthanization of pitbulls is “ethical treatment of animals”.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com
February 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I actually agree with this bill and hope that it passes in all states eventually.
Downerdog Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
One time owner. two time victom. Hate to say it but you are right.
1 TRUTH Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I JUST DON’T KNOW!!!
I had a neighbor when I was a kid who had one that tried to kill me. It was nice when the owner was around… but when not… a different story. If it wasn’t for a neighbor coming out to stop it from getting to me I might have died.
but… on the other side… I’ve had friends who have had them & they’re a big ol’ lovin puppy.
I guess it depends on how they are raised…??? or maybe it’s not & it’s a dr. jeckyl mr. hide thing.
frog turns into a person quickly: F-A-I-R-Y T-A-L-E
frog turns into a person over “zillions & zillions” of years: E-V-I-L-U-T-I-O-N
http://www.fool4given.com/books/301proofs.pdf
http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html
http://www.discovery.org/artic.....Fakest.pdf
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 8:01 pm
You must be one of those people who loves freedom of speech, but can not stand peoples’ freedom of choice. For you it’s guilty until proven innocent!! Screw yourself!!!
February 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Pitbulls are meant to fight. that’s their thing. this is just more proof that the USA goes against nature. i mean, look at michael vick. he went to jail for dogfighting. pitbulls were meant for that but the animal rights people decided that aggressive dogs were not meant for fighting??? they go against nature also. here’s a joke for you…
J: what do you call an animal right’s activist hanging from the end of a rope?
A: a christmas tree ornament
amy jackson Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
and dalmations were breed to run under fire carriages, portugese water dogs are for fishing, if we only have them to use them what they were breed for 100 years ago the doberman the sarpai the chow any form of bull dog . breaking that down even further the dogs that were cross bred from these bully breeds were ment to fight by your logic. and btw they were breed orginally for bull baiting!!!!!!!!!!!! only later were criminals drawn to these dogs for there fearless and tenacious characteristics ..their hard on themseleves, loyal to their family , good alarm system and criminal deterent..to go even farther these dogs were breed to NOT be people aggresive….but i’m sure your mind is made up that they are evil people killers…..i’ve known of more attacks by your little lap rats a year then pits and most people dont report the little one…. just something to thing about .
February 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I dont know about anyone else here but there have been more maulings, killings of people (especially children) in my city from pitbulls than any other dog. I feel bad for the pitbull owners whom have DECENT pitbulls but its definitely the NORM for pitbulls to be very dangerous. Whether its the owner or the dog, at this point makes no difference. There is a distinct problem here because of these dogs and they do inflict disproportionate injury and death to people compared to other dogs. Yeah i know some of you are gonna go ape s--- because of this but to hell with you.
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
your an IDIOT!!!
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
You’re a friggin MORON!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am
I think it is rather clear who the spiro is…umm….i mean, who the moron is…
Spiro Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
The “spiro”?, buy a f---ing clue you mouth breathing scumbag.
jazzyjeff Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:25 am
did you not get the joke, spiro? It was rather funny.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
The implementation of this bill would basically equate to door to door WEAPON CONFISCATION.
Am I wrong??
Imagine how nazi-like the scenario will be when they try to enforce this. Is the BATFE gonna add a couple more letters on now? BATFEPB?
February 28th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I live in Oregon too, and our government is doing this supposedly because we have a lot of pitbulls owned by people that train their dog to be violent and killers. And cause of owners that are not taking steps to properly train their dog.
This has NOTHING to do with public safety and EVERYTHING to do with making more money.
Are pitbulls born with aggressive nature? -the debate is out on this, though the pitbulls was bred originally to be a guard dog and thus bred to be aggressive.
How about teaching our kids to not wander up to animals they don’t know? How about placing a fence that the dog cant dig under or jump over? OR keeping your dog on a LONG leash when outside if they have a habit of running up to people or trying to escape? If your dog shows a tendancy to chase/bit/escape it is your responsibility to take measures that not only protect the public BUT protect your dog from getting shot by a cop because he got loose.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Hey how about the Oregon pass a bill that we all carry around Springfield XD 45 caliber pistols to make sure no one gets mauled? That way if a pitty is out of the fence, we can save a lot of time and injury with some flying lead.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
You can really see the media deception at work when they interview the woman on the street who says they should be banned. “…just from what I hear…” Yeah, what you hear from the lying, fear-mongering media.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
The government does not want you to have this type of dog. They are one of the smartest, trainable dogs I’ve ever seen. They will protect you from anything. They are as docile or as ferocious as YOU make them.
February 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
The argument this bill puts forth could easily be applied to race, eg: blacks vs. whites, guns: semi auto assault rifles vs. flintlock, cars: corvette vs. prius, drugs: non-state approved (and taxed) substances vs. legal drugs, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Average number of people killed by lightning each year in US: 62
Average number of people killed by dogs (all dogs) 15-20
Spiro Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I’m not sure about the 15-20 nationwide, but what i am sure about is that THOUSANDS of people are mauled, bitten by pitbulls every year in the nation. There is a problem here. Alot of the time it’s the owners i know that, but it is also the breed as well, these dogs were not bred to be Lapdogs, they were bred as fighting dogs. It’s obvious that enough people are irresponsible dog owners and for that alone, this dog needs to be made illegal. I see people walking their fkin pitbulls all the time without a leash too. Same deal with all types of dog like this. Rottweilers too, what a miserable dog. I dont’ really buy the “oh they’re so playful” bulls--- . I been around long enough and seen enough to know that it is OVERWHELMINGLY FALSE.
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Your an IDIOT!!
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
You’re a friggin MORON!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
you are so f---in wrong spiro, i dont know where to start….how about you just start with a simple google search of….Dog Bite and attack statistics, and im sure after you do, we wont see you on this thread again…..you are absolutley a waste of space
February 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Like they say, a Dog is only as smart as it’s master! That alone says alot. O dog well trained and obedient was trained by someone who took the TIME to raise that pet as they felt fit! Others, they tie an animal up outside on a 2-3 foot leash, and show it no affection whatsoever. So how do you want that animal to respond? It doesn’t know how to other than what “Instincts’ fathered into them have. I had German Shepards, and they were trained by myself. I could put that Dog on Sit and leave and come back 3-24 hous later, and unless i gave him ok or command it was ok for him to come off sit, he’d still be there. Then again, you came up my driveway, you best been able to read also, “Beware of Dog! That was his job was to protect HIS domain, My yard. If i had kids playing with my kids, he “KNEW it was ok for them t be there and would play with them all. If you were to try to hurt them, even those kids who came over to play, he’d protect them too. Like i say, Dog’s are smarter than Most People! Thats a sad state of affairs when man is suppose to be the “Dominate species. If you own a pet, treat them like you would your kids, but then, there some parents who abuse even them, too! Thats what is sad and sick with this society! Treating your own, Like there no better than a wild animal. Those are the ones who tie there so-called pets to a tree and leaves them there on a short leash! How would you react? I rest My Case on that point!
February 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
After this months vicious Chimp attack, an Oregon senator successfully pushed through the anti-Chimp owning legislation. Now onto blood thirsty Pit bulls. I think it would be wise to ban Peanuts too. While we’re at it, lets ban Pakistani’s – They’re obviously pretty dangerous. Did you see those Mumbai attacks on the news!
Bad dogs are bad dogs, more often than not, thanks to the owner. They should start euthanizing the inner-city idiots & Illegals that think it’s badass to train a dog to be blood thirsty. A bunch of birds with one stone.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Drop dead control freaks.
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I concur!!!
February 28th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I get so tired of people trying to control other peoples lives. The most wonderful dog I ever had was a Pit Bull.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
hmm
February 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Again, here is a politician making a law because of some bad pitbulls and it has to result in euthanizing the rest. Its the same mentality of the bastard politicians who want to outlaw the 2nd amendment because of a few bad criminals who use guns during a crime so therefore punish everyone.
F that Bruce Barr. Maybe we should apply his law to politicians because by God, politicians have caused more death and destruction on humanity than Pit Bulls could dream of. Perhaps we can start with Mr. Barr.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
It is a crime and a shame that some folks choose to turn a dog into a loose cannon weapon such as a pit fighting dog. Dogs are much like people, they have personalities. They love their masters and they can be protective and jealous. Under those circumstances they can and will and do protect their property (interest), master or children. They do not have deductive reasoning power or that of critical thinking. Most people dont either. But they do have instinct and they work on perception of threat. I have owned all manner of dogs from childhood. I wont be without one.
This bill is not about dogs it is about the control of the publics mind through disinformation by the lying MSM pundits. They are responsible for the ignorance and panic in the mob of the mass demobcracy. They want your guns, they want your dog that could protect and warn you. They want you at the mercy of and dependent on the State for your protection and safety. They will have it that way if you let them. As a Nation we should have had enough of this nonsense and need to put a halt to it soon. We should start at the MSM broadcasting stations.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
This is not to protect the public, it’s to make it easier for raids on your house and also to make you dependent on police for help etc…
Even though I f---ing HATE vicious dogs like this (they attack me when I go out for a run), I will defend your right to own one to the death (probably from your dog haha).
February 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I think the law should be that any dog found to be violent toward a human should be put under. A dog can bark, but if it bites… so much for that critter. Like robots, dogs should never be allowed to harm a human, no matter the circumstances.
I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Unless that human is breaking into my home.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Dobies are too wiry, loud, and high strung.
Rots and sheppies have long sheddy hair.
I don’t believe in relying on the government for security so I have dogs (pit bulls) well suited for my purpose. Now you want to come and forcibly steal my dog and put it to death with no solid justification other then the widespread popularity and versatility of the breed?
Balderdash! This is discrimination of hitlarian proportions.
I have had long discussions with my local dog catcher and she has no problem with pits as long as the owners understand the increased responsibility of ownership (sturdy containment, never off leash in public areas) of such a wrongfully prejudged breed.
grace Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:41 pm
AMEN!
February 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Another important question is if you can’t own pitbull dogs, where the f--- are they gonna put them all? Release them into the wild? They are a domesticated animal. So I’m assume they are just gonna kill them all off?
February 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Education is the answer here for everyone in my opinion (owners and potential victims)
Dogs sense fear, so pit bull attacks are a self fulfilling prophesy. I know ya’ll understand the concept of media bias.
Owners need to know the responsibility they hold and the possible ramifications of the actions of their animal, morally and financially.
We have gun safety courses, but dog safety education is much less prevalent.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Notice how the politicians don’t want to increase the penalties for owners of dog that bite people because they would have to apply it to all of the politically correct dog breeds as well. They obviously couldn’t get away with that, so they focus on smaller groups of people to harass and the “jewified demonized groups” get out voted every time.
This will politically alienate alot of people in oregon. Very devisive legislation.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
We live in a state where pit bulls run rampant, our dog has been attacked twice by pit bulls, we have lost money on vet bills that took money away for other things.
They don’t let us use those electric tasers where we we live so we have to stab pit bulls when they charge our dog “use electric tasers if you can”.
We will kill pit bulls ourselves but it should be their owners that should have their faces busted for being irresponsible.
Keep big government out of this issue, we don’t need a nanny state telling people “no pit bulls” instead it is up to the citizens to protect themselves, we will bust the pit bulls heads with golf clubs if they get near us or our dog and we will come for their owners next, we will protect ourselves.
Keep big bother out of our business, we need to train for the upcoming FEMA camp roundups.
Another thing, let people have pit bulls but here’s the deal, if they get loose and charge towards us we should be able to legally shoot them without any questions asked.
Paulsgoddess Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 12:17 am
I think your idea should apply to any dog, not exclusively Pit Bulls. I owned Rotties and Dobermans growing up and my husband owned a Sharpei who would die protecting his family.
That being said, if there is a loose dog running on our street and it comes towards my dogs who are ALWAYS on a leash, that loose dog is fair game for either my dogs or my 357. No one messes with me or my dogs.
February 28th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Pitbull lovers WORLDWIDE must mobilize on this issue with our maximum force.
Let our voice be heard loud and clear on this issue! Oregon first-you’re next.
katu news-
Viewersvoice@katu.com
sponsor of legislation-
Bob Starr
Session Address:
900 Court St. NE, S-411
Salem, OR 97301
Session Phone:
503-986-1715
Be nice, but forceful.
February 28th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
i’d like to see them try too take my dogs without reason. my dogs aren’t aggressive but i am. bloody retarded public things the dogs are the problem, i’ve never been attacked by a pitbull, i’ve been attacked by two labs, one of which went at me twice, and a rotweiler. the only time i’ve seen an aggresive pitbull is when they’ve been raised in that manner and any dog can be raised to be mean. as far as pitbulls attacking small dogs, well they feel the need to rid the world of weak animals, hell i’ve wanted to kill lots of small dogs, they’re yappy, they usaly respond poorly to other dogs and they’re small…keep a good eye on your dog and there won’t be any problems.
February 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Spiro – how come we always have to pass laws to protect you city f---ups from “danger”? i have said this b4 and i will say this again…IF THE CITY’S ARE BECOMING TOO DANGEROUS-LEAVE
don’t pass more bulls--- that will take more freedoms from us country folk
Spiro Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
How come?, because too many people have been getting mauled, killed and bitten by these dogs, mainly SMALL CHILDREN. I could give a rats ass what anyone else says, it has been and IS an ongoing problem. This isnt a country VS city thing, use your fkin head.
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:31 pm
you are an IDIOT!!!
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
You’re a friggin MORON!!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 am
show your proof and the stats……stop flapping your gums about s--- you have no iea
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:32 am
already posted some below you f---ing blind c---
jazzyjeff Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:27 am
posting your un-informed opinion is not quite the same as “showing your sources” Dont skip english class next time…haha
Spiro Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
BTW, YOU are the f---up!
grace Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:45 pm
ya show us some numbers. more ppl are hurt by rotts, german shepards. the only time ive ever been hurt by dogs they were small like chihuahuas and pomerranians. seriously waaaaay more than a few times ive been lurched at by tiny yapping dogs. if they were big they wouldve mauled me. but its okay for small dogs to be horribly untrained and obnoxious because they cant do more than nip you? where are the parents of these kids getting mauled? america needs to grow up and stop being little wimps asking for legislation to protect them.
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:43 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
yo IGGY…………BITCH………….its actually OVER one third , stick THIS up your twat!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:54 pm
MORE people hurt by rotts and sheps? , nah i dont think so ! ……you want numbers?, here ya go!
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%.....lifton.pdf
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:00 pm
More numbers than you and that OTHER god damn moron could shake a stick at!
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:01 pm
HERES ANOTHER FOR GOOD MEASURE!
STICK THIS ONE UP YOUR HORSE TWAT TOO IGGY!
http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
if you google “dangerous pitbulls”, what do you think is going to come up? if you google “Loving BUll terrier”, what do you think is going to come up? just a thought spiro
February 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
No one tells me what kind of dog I can and can’t own.
Look out Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
No one tells me what kind of dog I can shoot.
Chris Killz Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
You have every right to shoot a dog if it is threatening yours or anyone else’s safety in public or on your property. (within some decently sound certainty of danger hopefully) It’s always been like that.
Spiro Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Yeah we have the right to shoot a dog or maybe we don’t. If a 4 year old kid somehow gets attacked by a pitbull on the street wtf is the kid going to do shoot it?, you people are irretrievably stupid.
Iggy Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
you keep saying “attacked by a pitbull” . My sister’s mother-in-law has a Beagle that would tear your f---ing leg off. My two Bull Terriers would lick you to death. Any dog can be dangerous, why discriminate because of breed? Maybe your just afraid of everything! you big PUSSY!!!
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 1:27 am
1/3 of all deaths from dogs in this nation were killed by PIT BULLS. There are hundreds of dog species and ONE f---ING THIRD of all the deaths were from that one dog. Stick THAT up your pussy you little wuss!
grace Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:47 pm
that doesnt account for breed popularity. there are hundreds of dog breeds but how many ppl own a bermese mountain dog?? it could kill you like a pitbull. and what were the other 2/3 of deaths from??
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Really? I’m sure you pulled that fraction out of you fat ass!!! you sound like Fox News with your FACTLESS numbers. Your an IDIOT and a PUSSY!!!-
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:19 am
no s--- spiro, you sound like a 12 yr old girl, that has been told all her life to stay away from animals cuz they could “snap”…..Grow up, and get off your mom’s nips.
February 28th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Pit bulls aren’t dangerous – government is!
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
yo iggy, stick this up your ass…………..BITCH!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull
Paulsgoddess Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Amen. Good comment!
February 28th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
This demonizing of the entire breed is insane. It’s all about how they are raised and trained, not anything endemic to the breed itself. I’ve known people – including my brother – who have pit bulls and they are normally docile pets, not rabid killers. This is all to remove pit bulls so the gun confiscations and sending people off to the FEMA camps can be facilitated. Wouldn’t want those NWO thugs being attacked by dogs just trying to protect their masters, now would we?
February 28th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
The pitbull just so happens to be one of the most effective, easily available, reliable weapons against the nwo during martial law house to house search and gun confiscation scenario IE: Iraq style home invasions “house clearing”
How many animals are going to have to be confiscated?
What is the procedure when faced with noncompliance by the dogs’ owners?
This bill is martial law and door to door weapon confiscation.
I’d rather give up my guns then my pits and I’m a cold dead hands guy.
Gary Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Don’t give up either. Sic the dogs on them and shoot them while they’re dealing with the dogs.
grace Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
this has to be the real reason for this. while tiny annoying yapping dog breeds are being carried around in purses and attacking people, good well behaved strong fearless dogs are being euthenized. and what kind of ppl own good dogs that are strong and will protect them? fearless strong smart people! (and some retards) who owns useless accessory pets?? people who wont resist any imposition.
February 28th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
The cops are just taking your guns and animals that will protect you from home invasion when the SHTF. It’s illegal to fortify your own house too. No protection from the cops when they kick in your door at 3am. Defenseless sheep, right for the shearing.
Gary Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
You’ve got it. It’s all about getting rid of any impediments to taking us away to the camps to be executed.
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I think everyone see’s it for what it is, except that “spiro” fellow. Who sounds like a mouth peice for Fox and Friends, or is just very, very, very, ready to be culled.
February 28th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I’m surprised they didn’t focus on the part that says EUTHENAISA! You can’t kill people’s pets who are healthy and loving. Maybe they can begin a ban on purchasing or raising new bulldogs. But you can’t be so heartless to kill dogs which are already pets.
February 28th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Absurd bill! Why this would have any breed specifically mentioned is ridiculous. If a [any type of] dog bites a person, THE OWNER is responsible. It is THE OWNER’S responsibility to train/control their animal (most laws consider animals property). What if a golden retriever bit someone. No one thinks it would but ANY dog can be dangerous if they are not raised correctly or put in a bad situation. What are the existing laws in Oregon? Aren’t owners already accountable for their dogs? We don’t need government taking away personal responsibility and selectively euthanizing breeds of dogs.
February 28th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
shame really an entire breed has to be demolished because the coons use them as a weapon to destroy other animals, each other and people.
February 28th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
This is outragously insane! Any dog of any breed can turn bad and attack a person or someone else’s pet. This is sick!
BobLeeSwagger Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
So true!!! You can make a damned collie turn from lassie to lucifer if you do enough horrid s--- to the dog. The problem is the owners that mistreat the animals
February 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I lived next door to a very aggresive Pit Bull mix. it was like getting in a fight every time I got in my car because of the fangs growling and nipping at me while coming over the fence. The owner just sat their enjoying the action, wether it was me, children or elderly women it didn’t matter, this thoughtlees nieghbor refused to put the dog on a Zip Line because he felt it was cruel to the Animal.
I started to use pepper spay on the dog everytime it ran at me, so my nieghbor called the police and tried to have me arrested. At this point I couldn’t poisen the dog because, the owner was trying to build a legal case against me.
Then I found this wonderful tool which solved my whole problem. The Super Bark stop is an Sub-Sonic emmiter that that emmits a high frenquency noise that only dogs can hear, the sound is activated by the dog’s bark. The sound was so annoying to the Demon Dog that he would only bark once then whine in pain. My nieghbor and his dog moved out within four weeks of my deploying the Super Bark Stop.
He who controls the Electromagnetic spectrum….
wethepeople Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
The intelligent man win’s the battle without fighting,well done janitor!
February 28th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
What a bunch of horses---!!! What needs to be banned and euthanized are all those vicious animals that the police have and use on people. Those animals are the true danger, and after they’re euthanized, we need to euthanize their damned owners (the cops).
February 28th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
The owners were not taking care of their dogs properly thats why they attacked and killed.
The law should be euthanize stupid owners not the dog.
The dogs were always getting out of their yard,that’s called negligence.
February 28th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
This is a slippery slope that will eventually see all large powerful guard breeds listed as dangerous. Insurance companies already have these lists. Just another way the government wants us to be defenseless. Can’t have dogs barking to warn you of the Gestapo creeping around at 3am.
February 28th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
What about if we euthanize all donkeys and elephants?? Not the 4 legged kind, mind you. I say we euthanize them with a .223 right between the eyes, and a 2×4 up the a$$. you with me?
BobLeeSwagger Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
That sounds good to me.
February 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
The bill should be put down… and hopefully come back as a pit bull in the next life.
February 28th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
my family has a pitbull and i lived with it since it was a puppy and i was the first to defend pit bulls until mine bit my face one morning while we were playing. it came from a good line of dogs who werent abused and has been babied since we got him and so far hes bit like 3 or 4 people. i think it should be a case by case thing. if your dog attacks someone it should be put down. simple as that.
February 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
obams weekly youtube spam the s--- out of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTbT3LzNmDA
February 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
What a joke. Leave pitbulls the f--- alone.
February 28th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I agree this goes beyond simple dog bites.. Slowly your defences will be stripped away piece by piece till you’re completely defenceless, then it will be easy to drag you off to the FEMA camps
February 28th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
The governments afraid when they come to take you to the FEMA CAMPS you’ll sick your pit bull on them!
February 28th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I love Pit Bulls, Add your favorite dry rub and barbecue sauce and you’ll be contending for the “Best Ribs” trophy at your next BBQ!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/....._pit_boys/
February 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Pitbull owners need to take responsibility for their animals no doubt. These dogs are harder to keep than many other breeds, therefore they require a dedicated responsible owner. They are not intended for irresponsible owners.
With that being said these are the most loving loyal dogs you could own. The fact is the media loves to sensationalize the term pitbull. 90% of publicized pitbull attacks in the media are committed by mixed breed pitbulls. What is an APBT? True pit-bulls range from 30 lbs – 55lbs with a rare occasion of a 70+ pound pit-bull. I am talking about ADBA style pit-bulls, true pitbulls, not AKC styled Staffs which are generally bigger, unless they are English Staffs. So what is a pit-bull? Pitbull is a term thrown around rather loosely, it can aplly to a 100+ pound blue pit-bull, a 42 lb game-bred pit-bull, or an English Staffordshire Terrier. Game bred pitbulls are RARELY a threat to people. In fact I have owned several over the past 20 years. They are the only dogs I will own. Over the centuries reputable breeders have culled any animals that showed signs of human aggression, but unfortunately thugs get dogs of very poor breeding standards and sometimes breed for human aggression, which is a huge mistake in my eyes. However these dogs are extremely dangerous to other dogs or animals, there is no denying that, therefore it is imperative for owners to take extra precautions when owning these dogs. It is the sole responsibility of the owner to make sure the dog is on leash at all times in public. It is also a good idea to keep a breaking stick with you in public. In fact most reputable breeders do not peddle dogs to the general public, but there are always exceptions. Remember I said reputable breeders.
Before the media craze in the 80’s the public hardly new what a pit-bull was. Few realized that Petey from The Little Rascals was a game bred pit-bull from Colby Bloodlines, although he was registered by the AKC as a staff, at that time they were the same breed. But since breeders do not mix the two breeds , staff and apbt, they have grown distinctly apart as cousins. Petey was hardly a threat to those children. And my APBTs have not been a threat to my son or my friends and family.
Do not think for a minute that banning a dangerous breed will stop at a pit-bull ban. If successful I assure your that Rottweilers will be next, then Dobies, then German Shepards, then Mastiffs. In fact these breeds are more likely to attack a person than a pit-bull. And I say this with having avidly studying various bloodlines of APBT from Tudor, to Carver, to Bordreaux, to Hollingsworth, as well as several others over the past 20 years. I am speaking of extensive first hand experience with this breed.
grace Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Thank you!
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Thank You!!
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Actually, the dog most likely to bite….and the dog most likely to bite it’s owner…..is the chow. Add them to the list.
I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:52 am
A fila is most likely to bite. Trust me, the HATE strangers
Kyle Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
jeremy, you’re right, and here is a link which shows how truly lovable , cuddly, obedient and safe dogs that pitbulls are:
http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
hey kyle, why dont you search. Vick rescued dogs working as Police Dogs and Speciality dogs for seniors and disabled……and yeah, its true…in SF, 40 out of the 62 seized animals, were rehabilitated. Since pits dont bite humans, it was rather easy….just gotta keep them away from your annoying little s---zu, Kyle.
February 28th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
i think there might be a hidden agenda here. a lot of you are on to something: i think the government is scared that WE THE PEOPLE will use them as weapons.
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Make up your mind…..either they are weapons or they are so playful and friendly you can “take a biscuit out of their mouth”. In my experience, they are the most vicious fighting dog ever created….and that, by the way, is the reason they use them for illegal dog fighting.
February 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
http://pitbullawareness.blogsp.....esent.html
Jessica Alba,Rachael Ray has 2 Pit Bulls ,Jessica Biel has 3 pit Bulls,Chili from TLC, Helen Keller,Shannon Elizabeth …….sounds like a bunch of macho SOB’s there…..There is far less pitbull bites than people actually think…..look up the statistics in your state and I guarantee that pits are not listed in the top 5 for actual bites…….
do the research before you drop your death sentence……
Kyle Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Do YOUR research YOU f---ING HYPOCRITE!, not only is the pitbull in the TOP 5, it is responsible for more deaths in the U.S. than ANY OTHER DOG!
http://www.resource4dogbitelaw.....sdogs.html
jazzyjeff Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Kyle, Do you understand the difference between a AmStaff or a Bull Terrier? Or are those names enough to send you under your bed with a trail of urine? Pitbull is a slang term that means “bully Breed” So the reason the pit bite numbers are so high, is because they are classifyig ALL 20-25 breeds, as “pits” Just thought I should clue you in on what everyone else here already knows…..have a good day
ken Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am
yeah, f--- off kyle! Saying it BIG, dosnt make it right, tough guy
February 28th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
pitbullawareness.blogspot.com/2007/12/famous-pit-bull-owners-past-present.html
Jessica Alba,Rachael Ray has 2 Pit Bulls ,Jessica Biel has 3 pit Bulls,Chili from TLC, Helen Keller,Shannon Elizabeth …….sounds like a bunch of macho SOB’s there…..There is far less pitbull bites than people actually think…..look up the statistics in your state and I guarantee that pits are not listed in the top 5 for actual bites…….
do the research before you drop your death sentence……
February 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
The most effective dog for tracking, guarding, search & rescue and attack is the GERMAN SHEPARD. I live in Schweinfurt Germany for 2 and a half years and the had a police dog training facility passed our back gate. Those dogs are smarter then some of the scouts (19D) and tankers (19K) I knew. They could climb ladders, open car doors, stand guard, and wouldn’t be bribed with food.
We also had a german shepard when I was little and watched it kill one of our other dogs. My father shot it in front of me after it tried biting him. The other dog, forgot its name, bit me first for pulling its tail, I was like for or five.
February 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m gonna buy a big lion or two and maybe a alligator for my homeland security program. What ya think?
March 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
yes, f--- the pitbull, unfortuantely.
March 1st, 2009 at 12:25 am
I have a pit mix. She is the best dog in the world. Pit bulls are good dogs just like all other dogs.
March 1st, 2009 at 12:28 am
anybody whos knows anything about dogs knows that pit bulls make horrible guard dogs. rotties and shepards are good guard dogs. pit bulls are fighting dogs. they were breed to fight. thats why people who own them should be responsible enough to own them. pitbulls are almost never human aggressive dogs. my old pitbull(rip) was the biggest baby in the world but when he saw a rabbit or squirrel in the yard he would ape s---. did you know that there are more bites from golden retrievers per year than pit bulls, just google it.
Paulsgoddess Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Generally I would agree with you except that I owned a Rottie who made it through puppy training and basic obedience. She was a horrible guard dog and would let anyone, especially a man in the back yard. I taught her to be sweet and she was. The only thing she didn’t like were small yappy dogs and cats. The best guard dog, besides a Pitt would have to be a Sharpei. They are fearless, just like chows.
March 1st, 2009 at 1:47 am
The CDC lists pit bulls as being responsible for 68 Fatalities from 1978-1998.
That’s an average of 3.4 deaths per year due to these dogs. That’s roughly a 1:100,000,000 chance of being killed by a pit bull, per person, per year.
Do you know how many people are killed each year by hippo’s?
Robert M. Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:32 am
In other words, you’re 30 times more likely to be killed by a cop, or fifty times more likely to be killed by prescription drugs!
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Well said!!
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
IGGY YOU’RE AN IDIOT!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
no your an idiot spiro…take your new knowledge and go jump off a cliff
March 1st, 2009 at 2:25 am
Of the more than 2000 attacks from dogs last year, more than 50% of them were from one breed, the pit bull. They should be completely outlawed. These dogs are far too dangerous to be allowed loose in this society.
The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.
In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
Complied by dog bite legal expert, Richard H. Polsky, Ph.D., CAAB
Robert M. Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:41 am
I guess that’s how a Democracy works right? Come up with some statistics and just pass another law (restriction)! Majority rules! Works every time!
10 out of 10 republicans, and 10 out of 10 democrats will favor a Democracy over a Constitutional Republic 100% of the time!
I’m not picking on you Jeff, but your post is a prime example of how compartmentalized we have become.
I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 am
Good call.
March 1st, 2009 at 2:27 am
Middleclasssoldier, you are spot on about pit-bulls not being the best guard dogs.
In several instances top breeders have used Rottweilers or other types of dogs to guard their yards of pit-bulls, because in most instances quality pit-bulls are only a threat to other animals. In fact my dog Dixie is in bed with my three year old son right now. However they will bark and are likely to protect their owners from harm, but their purpose was never to be a guard dog. In fact the most animal aggressive pit-bull I ever owned was actually the friendliest dog I have ever seen in my life, and he was very well bred.
March 1st, 2009 at 2:34 am
Each year 50 -100 people die from bee stings.
Bees are more dangerous than Pit Bulls. We need to ban bees. Any one found with a bee on their property regardless of how the bee got there will be subject to a $1000 fine for each bee found or 5 years in a maximum security prison and a $250,000 fine for each person stung by a bee on your property even if you are the one who is stung.
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
COMPLETELY out of context and incomparable.
Paulsgoddess Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Spiro, where is your sense of humor?
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:35 am
I dont’ find anything humurous about injured, dead , mutilated people of all ages.
ken Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am
you are such a “holier than thou” prick…..7 deaths nationwide from “pits”(20breeds+) So get all hot and bothered, like this, about our troops mutilating and raping innocent women and children all over the globe…..get off the “pit”
March 1st, 2009 at 2:49 am
it is the owners responsibility to ensure the dogs proper behavior. if a pit bull is a danger to humans this is more than likely because of abuse neglect or inadequate training and socialization. human agression is not the breed standard. however the characteristic have been bread into it for dog fighting. this is something responsible owners should be aware of constantly and if there is a problem it is the owners fault. Pittbulls…Punish The Deed Not The Breed
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
No doubt…..anybody could train and domesticate lions, tigers and bears (Oh My) to where they would not be a threat to humans, but I am not willing to bet my life or anyone else’s life that any vicious animal so trained would never attack unexpectedly…..and that is exactly what animal owners are doing. Like the woman that owned the chimp, she gave him every advantage and opportunity to behave himself….but then the day came when he ripped into her good friend and nearly cost her life.
March 1st, 2009 at 3:00 am
Does the family of the deceased get the $125,000 fine or are the courts still reaping the benefits from the misfortunes of others as always?
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Fines are normally paid to the local court and forwarded to the state (if it is a state law, such as this one). The family of the deceased would ordinarily bring a separate civil suit against the owner and there is no practical limit on what they can collect, if they are persistent and push the execution of the judgement.
March 1st, 2009 at 3:25 am
Oh my Lord, this is a giant steaming pile of stupid. Let me tell you I have never been prouder to call myself a native of Oregon. Our state assembly has fixed everything and now has enough free time to dictate to people the type of pets that they should be allowed to have.
Don’t expect Oregon to adopt the Tenth Amendment resolution, as all political decisions in the state are made either by Weyerhaeuser Lumber or by the communists that used to live in all of your states but decided to do their own reverse Freestate Project.
March 1st, 2009 at 3:41 am
My pitty only attacks ATF officers, so I have nothing to worry abo… Oh No!
ATF standard procedure (probably most SWAT teams really) will execute dogs immediately before forcing entry to a premises. Watch WACO: Rules of Engagement if you don’t believe. If it goes down with the law, do NOT send your dogs out as a deterant. They will shoot the dog down straight away.
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I have always instructed police officers to do the same thing, if the owner will not or cannot control the animal and the dog is not in an enclosure or on a leash.
I always considered a vicious dog to be just as dangerous as a loaded revolver pointed in my direction. Having been attacked by dogs often enough to figure out it is not funny, I do not take any unnecessary risks and I do not want my officers to either.
March 1st, 2009 at 7:58 am
I’m potentially dangerous- you gonna ban me?
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Why? Are you a vampire? If you are…..I suggest you ban yourself. Otherwise, you are not dangerous….probably just annoying.
n/a Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
yes, all of us are – we have limbs and we know how to use them – well if you HAVE a BRAIN
seriousely anything can and will be a weapon especially if attacked —- all of us have our own external defences, however just by having a body – ur dangerous –
March 1st, 2009 at 9:44 am
Euthanize pitbull owners too. Ha Ha Ha
DonReynolds Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
At least give them a choice……either they can check out before or after the pit bull.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:38 am
http://www.meetup.com/portland.....breed-bans
Join up now to fight this silly Ban!!!
March 1st, 2009 at 10:45 am
No, they will come back as that mangy little white mutt in the video that nearly had its head taken off by a “pit bull,” and I intend to come back as a APBT to finish the job.
Remember that more often than not, when the POS media claims a Pit Bull was involved in an event, it is never really a pit bull. If it had been a pit bull that attacked that mangy mutt, the owner in the video would be holding an urn with “Fido” written on the side rather than that gimpy yapper.
March 1st, 2009 at 11:52 am
I was brutally attacked by a viscous pitbull, I almost died.. I am missing a huge chunk of my leg.. I am being very honest.. I almost died.. The biach who owned the pit was irresponsible.. it was a violent dog and she never trained it, it also attacked 5 other people. On the other hand, I know many people with pits that are very careful with their dogs and nothing would happen. Pit owners need to be responsible for their dogs and they need to have special training for potentially violent dogs. I dont hate pits but I do hate reckless owners
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
JAH JAH, nevermind , these fkin whackos are gonna say “oh no all pitbulls are friendly and it was an isolated incident”, so the next time a toddler gets torn up into chopmeat by a pitbull, lets all remember that its only “AN ISOLATED INCIDENT” fkin IGNORANT FOOLS!
Chris Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
You sound like a gun grabber. Of course- It’s all about the children…it always is isn’t it?
Kyle Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
And to you its all about the dog, fk that.
Iggy Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Spiro, You are an IDIOT!!!
Spiro Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
You”re a friggin MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Max Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
The only good pitbull is a pitbull who eats bankers and politicians.
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
The only good pitbull is a DEAD PITBULL!
March 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
As someone who’s been both a fan and a victim of these dogs, I believe spooks don’t like burglar alarms.
Bulldog breeds are easily some of the most childish ones, unless they are thoroughly drugged and frightened by their abusers.
These overbred show dogs are none to sacrosanct in action, as their skulls and limbs are weak to shock, directed against the points where muscles attach. Their organs are positioned similarly to those of deer, and many a determined farm animal would probably be more dangerous than the dog.
Don’t get me wrong. I am regarded by most cultures as friendly in my neighborhood.
It just so happens that I don’t know what’s in your yard without looking there, and neither do officials.
The dog issue is a privacy concern, just as much as the municipal codes about grass so ‘dangerously’ growing up through small cracks in the driveway and providing a potential trip hazard and liability to the city. The fact that they took detailed notes about which vehicle was parked there and when is supposed to be ‘incidental’ to the alleged purpose of the investigation, though all city departments communicate in tandem.
4w578i Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Animal Control might slowly, gawkingly, indiscreetly radio the descriptions of ’suspiciously dressed’ people, walking one way up a busy street, for instance.
When Animal Control is actually called, beat cops might have to make lassos of their belts while the appropriate department is nowhere to be found, throughout an entire incident.
March 1st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
The pit bull is the very symbol of american courage, strength and loyalty (and sense of humor)
My pit looks and acts just like the ones in these clips from movies back in the 30’s.
Shame on you communists for trying to take away my best friend.
“Remember When”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73j-H8jgQSs
March 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Remember When pitbulls were the symbol of the american spirit? When men were men? This country almost deserves it’s nanny state with it’s fearful, ignorant, cowardly, tyrannical ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73j-H8jgQSs
March 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Americans were once pitbulls, now we are a cross between a yorkie and a slug. It’s not gonna take the gangs more than a weekend to take over once shtf. Or maybe the military. (some country’s military probably not even our own) Basically it will just be a free country up for grabs, and since we will not defend it, the absence of any liberty in the future will make the present day look like vallhalla comparatively.
March 1st, 2009 at 6:41 pm
This is absolutely wrong and if this is allowed it will be yet another example of how dumb many people have become. With a slight amount of research, which i had done prior to even having any idea the NWO existed, I found that pitbulls pose absolutely no danger to humans. Pitbulls are one of the most loving of all breeds and are not the dangerous savages that the media professes them to be. If you want expansion on this a good study is Caesar Milan, also called the Dog Whisperer.
This is part of the nwo, no doubt about it. The first tipoff is that the media a.k.a. the mega propaganda machine are all over this and pretty much anything that the whorehouse media says is a lie, which I hope most of you reading this have learned. Nwo involvement is also noticeable through this singular fact. When a pitbull or the family of that particular pitbull is physically threatened with aggression it considers or the owner considers foreign, it will attempt to take care of business and protect its livelihood. In short, Pitbulls are very tough and when someone comes to physically take your sovereignty, like the nwo, a pitbull will fight to the death to protect you. So that is why you are not allowed to own a pitbull.
Why on Earth would livestock need to own a pitbull especially when it will help protect the livestock from getting the cattle prod! Get it.
birgit Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Rory you are absolutly correct. But brainwashed numbskulls run from anything someone else tells them to be scared of.
I retired from animal behavior work, I can tell you that if the owner is an A%%hole, so is the dog, no matter what the breed…ban them together, problem solved!Media & fluoride has done a swell job…bet they FEAR white al-cia-duh too
March 1st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
This is an obvious slippery slope bill that could result in all guard dogs becoming banned. Do you think that woman’s dog was the first to get attacked by another dog? How about pinchers, rottweillers, or muts with their characteristics in them? I see this as a routine grab by the state for more power and rules, usually unconstitutional (although I have not read the state constitution of Oregon), but this time its crossing into a new threshold of dogs, something very personal to people. I hope this law does not get passed unless voted on by the people, which process is probably suspect anyways – better to heir on the side of freedom here. A fair alternative to this law is presenting a law that hold owners liable for their dog’s violent actions, maybe even on other dogs. For example, if your dog attacks another dog and injures him, the attacked dog’s owner could sue for dog assault and could sue for $1000-2000. But only in civil, not criminal. The money cannot go to the state and nobody should go to jail. But if your pit bull kills another human, which is extremely rare, the owner should be tried on negligence and there should be penalty similar to human on human violence. Put the onus of responsibility on the owner of the animal to train it correctly. But if the animal does not hurt anybody can we really go around killing it or wiping it out in Oregon or other states, ignoring the principle of non-harming and the principles of freedom? Even though this chimp ripped off a woman’s face in my home town this year, I still think it should be legal to own any animal, as long as it’s not responsible for the harming of any other living soul. Of course, people should have the good sense to bring their animals to the wild, if that’s were they belong. Err on the side of personal responsibility and freedom, always!
March 1st, 2009 at 8:06 pm
fcuk o”BAAAA”ma + his zio-neo-scum criminal cronies !!!
Info-Warriors …………………………. victory or death !!!!!!
It’s revolution time
March 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
The Death Program…And How To Stop It!
Ages 0-9
You are told the average life span of a human.. This imprints your conscious mind with a “Death Program” for (literally) the rest of your life.
Ages 10-19
This is the decade of New Beginnings. These are your teen years when you are out exploring the world, never giving much thought to the Death Program that is now running through your subconscious mind. You may have to answer a question or two about this is your science class from time to time.
Ages 20- 29
This is the decade of Duality. You learn the positive and negatives of life as you enter into adulthood. The Death Program is running but you tend to block it out of your conscious mind until you approach the end of your 20s. Then you start thinking about what you haven’t accomplished, realizing that “the rest of your life” isn’t that long!
Ages 30-39
This is the decade of Perfection of earlier learning. The Death Program speeds up. It tells you that your life is most likely half-over. You worry about your health (worry creates dis-ease) and start to notice how others are “aging” compared to you. You may help contribute to a worthy health cause—walking for cancer awareness, raising money for MS, donating blood, etc. because you realize that “some day this may be you.” Women reach the end of their child-bearing years. They are now “old.”
Ages 40-49
This is the decade of Physical Reality. Often your financial picture improves or the direction you need to go in life becomes clearer. In the meantime, the Death Program creates mid-life crises, saying that you are officially in middle age. You decide you better take better care of your health so you don’t wind up like everyone else you know. You read the health articles wherever you see them to make sure you don’t have the symptoms of some dreaded disease. These articles often promote fear, and fear creates dis-ease.
Ages 50-59
This is the decade of self-healing. You have now lived long enough that you consider yourself “wiser” than those with less life experience. You no longer care as much about what others think. You speak out easier for yourself. You may have more time for yourself as you settle into your career. You feel more confident and competent—until the AARP mailings and retirement brochures start rolling in, depicting little old bent over people with canes. The Death Program goes visual and you fight you response.
Ages 60-69
This is the decade to end the series of cycles that may be running your life. This is the opportunity to end the old—which some people manifest as the end of good health, the end of viable relationships, the end of careers, and the Death Program says you are getting closer to the end of your life—better get prepared. People reach retirement age—they are now cast aside and are “old.”
Ages 70-79
This is the decade of Completion. According to the Death Program now becoming increasingly active, what you learned as a child is about to come true. You are reaching the end of the life span of the average human. You either give in or do your best to beat the odds. Most people forget that Completion means one door closing and another opening—unless it is the door to Heaven.
Ages 80-89
This is the decade of your Oversoul. Your Oversoul is your point of origin out of the Mind of God (or your Higher Power, if you prefer that verbiage). This is the decade when you most naturally consciously connect to your power Source. Rather than stay here and utilize this powerful and natural connection, what a great time for the Death Program to kick in, telling you its time to connect in another reality.
Ages 90-99
This is the decade that ends all cycles since birth. If you haven’t left yet, it’s time for the “big heave-ho” to get out the door. Otherwise, what a wealth of information and history you contain! If you are still healthy and of sound mind, what an influence you could be to the “new crop” of worker bees arriving into this reality, now ages 0-9. The Death Program is running full speed ahead now, pushing you right through Heaven’s Gate.
Ages 100 Plus
New beginnings –but the Death Program has already shown you that you do not want to live this long. You will be alone, ill, and with no one to take care of you. They do NOT want you to be a LIVING STOREHOUSE OF KNOWLEDGE that can influence generations. The Death Program is designed so that you absolutely DO NOT follow through on this path of New Beginnings—if you make it this far.
…AND HOW TO STOP IT!
Refuse to participate in the DEATH PROGRAM!
Ancient peoples, from the Bible to Atlantis and Lemuria were rumored to have lived for hundreds of years—what happened??
Develop your awareness that the Death Program exists for a reason. Refuse to participate and learn to reverse the process. Ancient peoples, from Biblical Times to Atlantis and Lemuria were rumored to have lived for hundreds of year –is this a possibility for you, too?
Release your experiences as they occur up to their point of origin –your Oversoul, God-Mind, or whatever you call your Higher Power. Carrying the experiences of your past fills you up, creates weight, changes relationships, redirects career paths, affects financial pictures, distorts the mind and body, and recreates the beautiful body into which you were born into something else.
If you don’t empty out while you are here so you are ready for year 100, then you need to go out of the body to do this—and the Death Program wins again.
Your mind is the most effective tool you have for building yourself up or tearing yourself down. You have the tool. You already own it. It is FREE. Use it appropriately and the Death Program turns on Itself, killing IT instead of YOU!
- Janet Swerdlow
http://www.expansions.com/BBF.cfm
Gary Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:28 am
Shoot, there are numbers listed on the site she linked to: 269-429-8615 (phone) 269-429-8616 (fax). Let’s all give them a call. Perhaps people all over the internet would be interested in these numbers?
And here’s a link that person’s contact form:
http://www.expansions.com/QuestionContact.cfm
Let’s all be sure to make some good comments for “Janet.” Let her know how we really feel. I think you can even find the address in Michigan where her business is. “Hey, Janet, how smart do you feel know?”
March 1st, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Don’t let them they banned them here and they trick kids out of their family dog. when the parents get to the pound to pick him up too late he’s dead and heres your bill.
March 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
The government dosent want the public to own such a brave dog they want you defenceless
these dogs are like few others and have been bread for there fearlessness gameness and temperament (one great family addition/protector) and never let any one tell you otherwise
i have owned pittys for 21 yrs now and there are few dogs that compare to this noble breed
The name pitbull has doomed this breed not its actions
I will say this breed in the wrong hands and is treated with cruelty and baited on people, it is one of the most dangerous animals, but when loved as part of the family and treated with kindness like all dogs should be treated it is the most trust worthy of animals
ban the ban
March 1st, 2009 at 9:55 pm
good riddance to a problem we don’t need.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
I’m still not certain which is more stupid and violent:pit bulls,or their owners…
SPIRO Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
its the owners, hands down. The dogs are naturally violent and capabable of great harm , yet people go out and get one anyway. Nuff said.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Sorry Pals, but a pit bull is most certainly a vicious dog. NONE of the pit bull owners will ever think so, but many of their neighbors are completely convinced they are a terror. If anyone has already seen what a pit bull can do to a girl or boy in a very few seconds, they already know the pit bull is much too dangerous.
It took citizens three years to get the Memphis city council to enact a similar ban on attack dogs, which included other breeds, not just pit bulls. This was necessary because of the number of small children, older kids, and elderly adults that were mauled and killed by attack dogs in our city.
THANK GOD….at least one state has finally begun to recognize the threat that attack dogs pose to neighbors (and their pets), letter carriers, meter readers, garbage collectors, bicyclists, joggers, walkers, delivery workers, and other innocent persons. Almost makes me wish I were in Oregon instead of Texas…..hmmm. No matter. I will keep shipping them off to the dog pound as fast as I can until we can get a law like this in Texas. (At the pound, they last three days.)
March 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
bloody good.
those dogs are a menace
get rid of them all & make it illegal to own 1
f--- pitbulls & f--- the morons who bred & own them
March 1st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR DOGS. I WILL SHOT ALL YOUR DOGS AND ILL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND YOUR KIDS AND PUT YOU IN JAIL AND ALL OF YOU WILL BE OBAMA’S SLAVES AND YOU CANT STOP US WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU.OBAMA IS OUR LORD HE WILL SAVE US FROM YOU SILLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE FREE.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Well cars kill people too. Watch, next theyll ban personal transportation, and have us all use public transit.
redheadkingpin1 Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 10:43 pm
cars serve a useful purpose.
pitts don’t.
phuq’em. hate the breed. i’ve seen the damage they can do first hand, and it’s a stupid thing to have them living among us as “pets”.
just, pointless.
the breed needs to die.
birgit Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
you are soooo incredibly ignorant!
It is a PEOPLE problem
Ban pits and those thugs will corrupt another breed- just as bad.
Ban morons!
jas Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 am
your a moron redkingpindick this breed will never die theres too many people like me that will do anything and everything to keep this noble breed alive and kicking including changing its name to something like american staffy dips---
John Jancar Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 am
hold on a second, if pitt bulls didnt serve a purpose, God wouldnt have put them here, its just that simple. Everything that exists in life, everything that happens in life..is no accident, and has a higher purpose and meaning. Thats just basic. To say that pitt bulls, which are beautiful animals by the way..serve no purpose, is really arrogant, and degrades all of life.
Ive been attacked by dogs, and bitten severely, several times, when I was a child. That doesnt mean dogs should be banned. Ive seen a horse go on a rampage, and attack my brother and uncle. It was brutal, horses are powerful creatures. Why dont we ban horses too? Hell why dont we ban all domestic animals! Why dont we ban everything and live in little pods while we are at it?
We are supposed to live in a free world, freedom means responsibility. Dont blame the dog, for an owner that treats it badly..for that is why animals get angry. Dont blame the dog, if it was trained to be a guard dog and attack people, and then does..thats all it knows! Blame the human owners, who know better, and should treat dogs with love and respect and not like some kind of weapon.
We are supposed to live in a free world! If we ban this, and ban that, and limit this, and limit that..pretty soon we will live in a world where we cant do anything. And this is what the Illuminati wants, so why play into their hands?
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
are you a PETA front man trying to plant seeds in the simple minds of this thread?? haha
People who Endorse Terrorist Acts !!
PETA means no more kittys no more pooches no more chicken from KFC no more horse shows no more dog shows no more pets of any kind…
PETA MEMBERS ARE IGNORANT OR THEY ARE STUPID EITHER WAY ITS A BAD BAD BAD BAD SITUATION
PETA CALLS FOR TOTALL ANIMAL LIBERATION…
they also call for no more animal testing on medications and supplies…hmm…lets think about that…
“animals were used MAINLY as test subjects in diebeties testing..and without animal testing we wouldnt have insulin…. i know you know somone whos diabetic?? well now you know one more…the PRESIDENT OF PETA takes insulin every day… what a f---ing c---… its either the pres or vice something or other..point being..they burn down labritorys that provide medical testing ..yet she is alive because of the very labs she burns down….
wow… DEATH TO PETA DEATH TO PETA…..
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
can we just call you “mini hittler”??? forcing your way of thinking on other free thinking FREE AMERICANS AND IF YOU DONT SOON SEE THE ERROR IN YOUR WAYS ITS GOING TO BE TO LATE….. TO EACH HIS OWN YOU STUPID CLOWN…. SHUT UP ABOUT s--- YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT…
March 1st, 2009 at 11:04 pm
ITS a Moron owner problem when the animal turns to Poo..
Ban stupid owners of any kind of dog, do the whole world a favor.
Neuter numbskulls- save the dogs!
redheadkingpin1 Reply:
March 1st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
the incident I saw was between 2 dogs, same owner – who had lived together 6 YEARS before the Pitt killed the other. and these were good owners. personal friends. they had 6 pets. rescues. well trained, well loved. doted on.
pitts are a menace. worse if with a bad owner, but bad nonetheless.
sad, but true.
death to pitts.
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 am
Hmmm…Point taken!!! Dog owner. “All ‘Thermal Expansion!!!”
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:16 am
Dammit I forgot the f---in’ HAIL!!! “All ‘HAIL’Thermal Expansion!!!” BTW fellars…f---in’ with my dog is like f---in’ with my wife!!!! Coons’ need fed as well as the riverbank!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Not possible until something BAD happens. Thats the problem with society, re-active rather than PRO active!, get rid of these fkin dogs before anyone else is killed or injured!!
March 1st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
bad owners should be banned
Not the dogs
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Not possible until something BAD happens. Thats the problem with society, re-active rather than PRO active!, get rid of these fkin dogs before anyone else is killed or injured!
ken Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:47 am
yeah we got it the first time…dips---
Spiros Hatzopoulos Reply:
March 20th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
You got it, good!, glad you f---in agree ……….BITCH!
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 am
Let’s cut to the bottom line here.
The REAL reason they want Pit Bulls and such outlawed is
THEY MIGHT CHEW UP COPS WHEN THEY BREAK IN YOUR HOUSE!
ARM-RESIST Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 am
EXACTLY! glad someone else saw it..
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:29 am
Surely the rich will be grandfathered in for years and years. While others animals are put to sleep. pathetic.
This would be liking wiping out all lions, because a couple of rare attacks.
However, If this bill passes all Pit owners can just move to another sane State, and take all of their tax dollars with them.
I would imaging this could remove several million+ from the coffers of local and State treasuries.
I’m also thinking its easier to pass draconian measures, when the economy is in rough shape.
My guess is that republicans/Independents = pitt bulls ok, Democrats = anti-pitt bull / anti-gun
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 am
all those that want this breed banned have never owned one,they have all the stories about how dangerous they are but have no real idea about the breed(FACT)
lets f--- off all these dumb know it alls and lets see what the experts say like Ceaser from the dog whisperer,having been involved with dog training myself Ceaser is one dog trainer that i think is a cut above the rest and has more than ten pitts running with rotties, german Sheppards ,toy dogs etc
So lets just say if you dont own one or have never trained one you dont know what the f--- you are talking about(i would say that would be 100% of pit haters)
Ceaser loves this breed yes he says they are the are head strong warrior dog but just a DOG
by the way the american staffy is the same breed as a pitt why are they not banning this breed
only stupid people that know f--- all want this breed banned
the most heavily decorated dog in the world is a pitt,this was before they banned them from show
redheadkingpin1 Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
“heavily decorated”…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
dog shows….like they’re arenas of honor.
LOLOLOLOL
KILL EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 am
http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
F-Urself Moron Backatchya Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 am
……………
GETFKEDBYURPITBULLJERKWEED Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:26 am
http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:29 am
There is a group of people growing in numbers
by the day, uniting right now to defend freedom!
http://www.warnthepeople.org/sign-up.html
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 am
This is such a sad story. I take my two dogs to the Dog Park here in C.O.D. Park near Rancho Mirage, Ca (i have 2 toy fox terriers) on the big dog side, i frequently see pit bulls who are so gentle and nice and play well with all the other dogs… i have only seen one mean pit bull — but the owner was an ass… anti-social type… yes, i agree- it is the fault of the owner…
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 am
I would hold up on that.We may need every dog,cat,gerbil,lizard etc. for food down the road.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 am
the govt’ dreams up crap like this just to avoid the real issues and keep the public overloaded with useless info so that they wont have to time to examine whats really going on
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
could be, but those miserable dogs need to dissappear from society ANYWAY, along with thier fkin miserable, small dick owners!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:29 am
Send the f---’n things to me…i’ll put the evil c---s down quick f---ing smart
Send their braindead owners along as well…they might as well have my fist sticking out the back of their skulls as well…sick f---s!!!
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
let them take your dog? did you aussies give up your guns yet? if not i bet your real due……god save the queen, right?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
“Pit Bull” is a slang term. There is an American Staffordshire Terrier, and an American Bull Terrier. This is like saying outlaw a certain race or religon, stupid.
redheadkingpin1 Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 am
and please, tell the audience where that “slang term” originated, will you?
be honest now. I’m watching you…..
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Because they were bred to hunt vermin out of mounds set up in a “pit”………there you go assclown
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
Its about time I hope the rest of the USA will follow. Pit bulls are illegal in the UK. These animals are a menace. Just look at all the people who have been mauled. Even good dogs go bad. Its not the owners its the breed, they are bred to fight and attack
There is absolutely no need to have them, the breed should be wiped out. I will laugh and cheer when I see the owners bringing in their sweet dog to be put to death. This is one area the government should control
No rights for pit bulls or their owners
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
no they are not illegal….you are a dunce…..you cant ban a whole classification of dogs…only breeds, so stop being a douchebag
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
They can take my pit-bull from me when they pry if from the cold, bloody, stump that use to be my neighbors leg….
I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 am
Good one
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I was a vet tech, these dogs are dangerous, their genetics pre-deposed them to not respond like other dogs.
an example is border collie want to herd things.
Again they are not like other dogs… Their genetic drive is to keep fighting and attack. You can’t train that away.
If my dog rolls your dog and your dog gives up. my dog will walk away
A pit bull will say “great thanks for exposing your belly for me to kill you easier”
they have a bite that is super strong and unfortunately young men use these dogs as peenie extenders
These dogs are dangerous weapons and don’t fall under the second amendment
All dogs are not created equal.
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
“peenie extenders” LOL, exactly!, an extension of their tiny manhood!
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 pm
“i was a vet tech” … thats like saying “i was a busboy so let me tell you about how to fly a plane”… vet techs clean out s---ty cages… you arent anymore qualifyed than joe dips--- the mechanic up there ..you people are just begging to be put into camps arent you…please help me government take away all my freedoms…wow…
im kinda sick…id think that of all websites i visit..this one would produce some freedom fighters… your a bunch of spineless cowards….. no rights for pitbulls or there owners lol
i feel sorry for you… i really do…
THE BREED IS TO POWERFULL TO ALLOW TO BITE PEOPLE…IT WAS BRED OUT OF THE BREE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO…90% OF THE “PITBULL” ATTACKS ARE QUESTIONABLE AT BEST… I BET NOT ONE OF THOSE OWNERS OF DOGS THAT DO BITE CAN PRODUCE A SPEC OF PAPER WORK ON THE DOG….
APBT in its true form shouldnt be any heavyer than about 55 pounds for a male and 45 for a female…any bigger than that and its breed should be questiond…. at that point its mixed with something….APBTs were bred to fight other dogs…not bite people…i dont advocate either ..but with a good diet and PLENTY of excersize…. you have a best friend for life… wow..
im just sick…i really am….
wow…wow wow… im so dissapointed right now…. people on infowars.com begging to be striped of civil libertys…. is so so sick….
redheadkingpin Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 am
breeders and those who support them should be illegal too. adopt a mutt, folks.
pure bred. what a joke. you intentionally pump out killing machines whilst good dogs die in shelters every day.
you suck.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
Thanks “Dr.” Ill take your word for it, sure……vet tech….haha….i hope you have moved up the food chain since that job….you s---cleaner MD
Spiro Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Could be a s--- cleaner but that s--- cleaner does see more than you do and most likely knows more about pittbulls than you and what they are about from being around so many of them. So a s--- cleaner knows more than you do about this. How does that make you feel little boy?
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
i think this is where your confused spiro…you seem like a nice enough person… so im going to take a second to say this…
i am the encyclopedia of the breed….. i have studied them and lived with them my whole life… and i can tell you this… anyone that claims that any one breed of dog is more “crazy” than the next is well … lets face it..crazy themselves….
what she is trying (and failing i might add) to say is that the dogs were originally bred in the 1700s to “bait” animals such as bears lions bulls… and other large animals…
the point back then was to breed your dog TO NEVER GIVE UP… ive read stories about farmers back then cutting off the front limbs of dogs and they would still go in for bait..
a bull would gouge the guts out of a dog and it would jump back in and hang on till death… the inside joke about the breed is that they never lose because they die trying so when they awake in dog heaven they think they must have won….
that trait is known as “gameness” look it up..basicly it means that the dog will never QUIT even due to severe injury….
now moving on… later on in the 1700s baiting became illegal…so they started pitting these dogs against one another and theyd make sport of it bets and what have you..
now proper dogs fights are like the UFC of today there was two “trainers” a “ref” and a “doctor” …
now other than betting for profit the only reason to pit your dog was to prove “gameness” so people would want to breed off your dog… because gameness is a trait that is bread into these dogs it is what is sought after…
so all these half cocked idiots that claim they used to fight dogs to the death are really dumb if you think about it… a dead dog cant A win you any money and B cant make you a profit from stud….
also just a quick side note before i finnish if ever a dog bit its handler in the pit he was culled on the spot…. thus a dog that bit humans never got to breed because man biteing is also a trait that can be bred on…. (just ask any doberman owner)
so in essence man biting is a trait that even to this day is NOT SOMETHING ANY TRUE APBT OWNER BREEDER WOULD WANT…..
now for my big finnish ..(i think youll like this part..)
quick refresher…
dogs are bred to NEVER QUIT this trait is called “gameness” it is what is sought after in the APBT world…
in the wrong hands this dog can be a menace… but honestly.. if i was a breeder of beagles i wouldnt sell one to an old ass lady who lived in an inner city appartment…
cause that dog was bred to HUNT!!!! and if they dont hunt they go crazy and BAYYY BAYYY BAYY All day long….. oh and then they bay some more… they have hunting in there blood…they need to hunt..they HAVE TO HUNT…
a responsible dog owner OF ANY BREED will make sure that a dogs needs are met…well when your talking about a WORKING BREED you have to accomidate for the missing link…. hunting dogs must hunt…. herding dogs must herd…etc etc….
well now your thinking what a pitt bull owner has to fight his or her dogs???
no absolutly not per 1979 dog fighting in the usa has been illegal and i would never tell anyone to hurt dogs…but you have to do something to make them feel like they have been worked…plain and simple…
raw hydes on poles….. in the back yard..a treadmill, swimming, jogging…. throw a tennisball untill the dog cant run anymore..hang a rope in the tree and make him hang till hes burnt right out….
as an owner of a working breed of dog food and water isnt half the problem… you have to make sure these dogs are f---ING WORKED
so to all the 60 hour work week people with active dogs and an inactive lifestyle… MAKE THE f---ING CHANGE…
you have to do something with your dog to make him tired..bottom line…
and people that dont generally got the dog for ALL THE WRONG REASONS and have no idea how to handle it now that its wrecking the house while your at work… so you beat it and yell at it and put it in a kennel…then they start to go nuts…. they have to work its in there blood….
you are there “pack’ for lack of a better term…and in the dog world the only reason ALL THE DOGS dont leave together is if one or more of them is injured or to tired to go out…
so leaving your dog is confusing to the dog to begin with…let alone no excersise….
so i tell everyone…make a deal with your dog and i guarentee he will be much obliged…
tell him or her… you dont wreck my s--- while im at work and ill take you and run the s--- out of you 5 days a week MINIMUM AND THATS CUTTING IT CLOSE…
good day…. feel free to email me with comments or questions regarding any of this…
yoopersfor911truth@yahoo.com
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
one more thing…lets remember this…. ANYTHING WITH TEETH CAN BITE….
thank you…
Spiro Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Well atleast you seem to be a responsible owner. Too many irresponsible owners ruin it for the responsible ones. Unfortunately though, this is enough to suggest making the dog illegal to own because just too much damage is done by the irresponsible owners dog, and it i happens daily. If all the dog owners were responsible we probably wouldn’t be hearing about 95 percent of these incidents. But that isnt the case.
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:38 am
go f--- yourself
ken Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
dont kiss his ass, cuz he schooled you, spiro…you little bitch
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
The SPCA took the dog that alway sits on the front porch from the little girl. When the father went to get the family dog it was too late the dog was put down because it was a pitbull.
Spiro Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
thanks for the news, fkin awesome.
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
ANYONE f---S WITH MY DOG, MY FAMILY, MY HOME…D I E S …PLEASE ENJOY ..AND TO THE WEAK c--- AMERICAN s--- HEAD LOVERS…STAY BACK WEAK c---S..IT’S YOUR FINAL WARNING
Kyle Reply:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
FAIR ENOUGH. BUT REMEMBER THIS…………IF YOUR DOG EVER HARMED ANY KIDS, EXPECT THAT MOTHERFKER TO GET OFFED. IF YOUR DOG EVER DID THAT TO MY KIDS, I’D BLOW ITS f---IN HEAD OFF. I’M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA WHO FEEL THIS WAY , SO YOU’D BEST KEEP THAT DOG ON A GOOD LEASH AND SECURE.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
yeah Kyle, but at least we will have a pet that dosnt mind protecting our civil liberties, when I am unable……..and then I would blow your f---ing head off and then your wifes and then your kids….how does that make you feel? you f---ing internet tough guy
Kyle Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Ken, so you’re a murderer of kids?, wow what a fkin “internet tough guy”………kids threaten you you big pussy? You are completely in the wrong with your statement f---head. If you think that someone doesn’t have the RIGHT to kill one of those miserable dogs before it harms a family member……….YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING BITCH!, and in your case I wouldn’t kill your dog right away. I’d shoot it and let the f---ing thing SUFFER!, then i’d tie it to the back of my truck for a nice long drive on the freeway, just what that miserable f---ing dog of yours deserves.
jazzyjeff Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:56 am
obviously you two morons, took his anger out of context. I think he was asking “how does that make you feel?” because there are alot of people that feel their pets are their kids….just filling in the blanks. But really Kyle and Spiro, you need to stop! You will be reported for this bullying, either by Ken, or by someone else. So just leave it at the topic at hand, and put away your “chubby” kyle, I know thinking about that s--- gets you off, I mean, obviously.
Spiro Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Ken you’re such an ignorant f---. So you think that it’s not right for someone to protect his kids from a pitbull which is attacking them. Obviously you don’t mind if a pittbull attacks and either kills or injures one of your family members then correct?
ken Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I dont think you assholes are f---ing human, you are some sick motherf---ers….people that treat animals like you kyle, are the reason dogs turn on their owners……you are the sick f---, and everyone reading this thread knows it…….let me guess you have a 69′ Ford f-250 with a gunrack and 40 inch swampers….huh?…pretty close? I bet Iam, you inbred, redneck piece of trailer trash
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:43 am
You’re the one thats sick. You value the luxury of being a selfish prick , trying to disinform people (but failing) just because you happen to OWN one of these menaces to society. And answer the question
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
I have a staffi bull terrier that I adopted 2 yrs ago from a rescue organization and I honestly could not ask for a better dog.
people always ask me, “Does he bite?” I really hate that f---ing question
Kyle Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
You hate that question but you should also understand that people do get bitten and they just want to be careful.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
people always ask me, “Does he bite?”
he’s friendly, if that’s what you’re asking!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
How is PETA not all over this?
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
I hate those f---ing dogs. Kill them all!! Good job Oregon.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
not really, it was voted down by a rather substantial margin…..so yeah, i guess..Good Job oregon
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Why doesn’t everyone feel this strongly about our evil government? When it does it’s next false flag on 10-10-09, Russia and the SCO are going to destroy this country and 90% of the people in it!
Spiro Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
whats going to supposedly happen on 10/10/09 as far as false flag attacks on the U.S. ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Jerk-Boy bruco starr’s entiire turdlett of a family can line up and take turns servicing my dog on their unpadded knees.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
How many times does one hear of the family pit bull tearing up their own child…i bet it was a good little doggie…until it turned rabid!
The French woman who had passed out…so her dog decided to make a meal of her face…it must have been hungry…it chewed it clean off (shades of Hannibal Lecter…tttthh tttthh tttthh tttthh)!
Pit bull owners that defend the evil c---s…are just naive, ignorant, braindead scum that should be staked out on the ground…then let half a dozen of the evil little c---s do what they do best!!!
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How do these f---’n owners justify the severe mauling of a child…let alone the death of a child???
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 am
i think you made that up, kill all aussie’s, I once saw one, kill someone with a knife….they are all rabid and must be put down….gimme a f---ing break
Spiro Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I hope a pittbull attacks you and bites your tiny pecker off. You own a pittbull to make up for certain inadequacies anyway. Admit it you f---face….
ken Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
It will never happen, for 2 reasons…..1) My dogs would never hurt a fly 2) My pecker is not tiny, nor is it exposed to the animals at any time(dont know quite what your intentions are)…and you keep spelling pit wrong…….
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pm
wow…im not really sure what to say… ban dogs… i love my dog with all my heart he is my best freind…. people…im going to give you a short lesson on the breed…this applys to everyone..but mainly the owners of the breed…
1..first and formost….. The term “pitbull” is a farse… its like saying “hunting dog” ..its not a specific breed…the thing you people dont seem to understand is if you keep useing the term “pitbull” a LOT of dog owners are in BIG trouble…”pitbull” represents over 25 PURE BREED of dogs…the definition is as follows…”any dog with short hair a muscular body,block head and a whip like tail”…. duhhh… we are so f---ed its not even funny…
i dont own a “pitbull” i own an AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER….with papers…a f---in game dog…game bred i can trace my dogs genes back over a hundred years… big difference…any mutt on the street with short hair is gunna get chopped down…. and so are the good dogs…
a mutt bites somone ..and my dog takes the heat for it…
“oh no get that dog out of here its a pit bull”…?” aunt carol are you for real?” yea jess get him out of here hes a pitbull those dogs are mean”….”well i saw a mexican rob a 7/11 once….guess they are all crooks…” silence….
well… im game … never quit….
need info? go to http://www.game-dog.com…. all the info you will ever need on the APBT in its true form…
and for gods sake… people…enough bitching on boards and forums…lets get together…
email me lets put our minds together and take ACTION enough talk already!!!
yoopersfor911truth@yahoo.com
i simply cant belive we havent gone to war yet… we are going in the wrong direction here.
take my dog mother f---ers…i dare you….
the loose wording in this bill and all the others just like it is going to f--- us out of owning dogs..
redheadkingpin Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
breeders and those who support them should be illegal too. adopt a mutt, folks.
pure bred. what a joke. you intentionally pump out killing machines whilst good dogs die in shelters every day.
you suck.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
http://www.katu.com/news/40578707.html
here you go dickfer
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
red head…. im ok with the fact that you dont agree with me…thats fine..hell i encourage it… dissagree with me PLEASE because if you do..then that means that you think on your own… which i happen to well.. agree with for lack of a better term… but … the problem i do have..is this…
im sure you do things i dont agree with…but i would NEVER NEVER NEVER impose my will on your way of thinking… why cant you show me the same respect?
ive never hurt you your family..none of my dogs have ever hurt you or your family OR ANYONE ELSES FOR THAT MATTER
in TRUE BREEDING OF DOGS…YOU BREED TO BETTER THE BREED …NOT JUST TO WATCH TWO DOGS f---….
that being said… i never adopt dogs out to anyone without them being fixed..and the people i do adopt them out to I PERSONALLY KNOW …..
AND FINALLY…IF ONE OF MY DOGS EVER EVER EVER SHOWED EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF HUMAN AGGRESSION I WOULD CULL IT ON THE SPOT NO QUESTIONS ASKED… I LOOK AT IT AS SACRAFICING ONE DOG FOR THE GOOD OF THE BREED….
THEY ARE WAY TO POWERFULL A BREED TO HAVE ANY HUMAN AGGRESSIVE TENDANCYS… IF YOU WANT A GUARD DOG…GO GET A DOG THAT WAS BREAD TO BE HUMAN AGGRESIVE…APBTS WERE NOT AND NEVER WILL BE ….
good day sir…. i hope you take a second to realize that the government cant help make laws for everything… i think you need to do some policing of you own something tells me its a bit drafty in your little house of cards….
redheadkingpin Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
you sound like you have good intentions, but I only take home pound puppies. i have 3 mutts.
the day no dogs need to be killed in shelters for lack of a good home, that’s the day I’ll reconsider breeding. very few people in this world any longer have need for particular working breeds, and meanwhile, good animals are put to death every day.
i agree the gov’t can’t make laws for everything, but in this instance, i think it’s appropriate. not all animals, or all breeds of all animals, belong in all human settings. i’ve known pitts who were sweet, and I’ve seen a pit literally rip out it’s housemates throat and eat it. i helped clean the blood from the carpets and walls – and the dog it killed, it had lived with peaceably for 6 years, with good and loving people who trained their animals well. after that horror show, that couple will never own anther pit – too traumatized. and frankly, me too. it was awful.
ken Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
BULLs---
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 am
VICTORY!!!! How sweet it is.
Pit bull bill will go no further, lawmaker says
http://www.katu.com/news/40578707.html
We also have a 10th amendment bill being introduced this week!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:25 am
f---in hate those dogs. They attack other people’s dogs, they attack children, sometimes they attack their owners. They are mentally unstable and unpredictable. Yes i’ve seen it first hand. They should have never been bred. They have no place as a family pet. Its like owning a “domesticated” mountain lion or a chimpanzee, you never know if they are gonna snap and go berserk. f---in kill em all.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
you dumb motherf---er…you have no idea what your talking about, you ill-informed redneck, lunatic…kill all the labs, they kill way more living creatures….you f---ing mulligan
Spiro Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
You’re the dumb motherf---er ken. You even said it yourself that people do not have the right to protect their own kids from these vicious mongrels.
ken Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
haha….what a “tough guy”
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:47 am
“haha…what a tough guy”
TRANSLATION: i cannot respond so i will try to look funny and slither away like a worm
jazzyjeff Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
YOU FRIGGIN MORON!!!!!! LOOK FAMILIAR SPIRO? go erase your s---, before you call out someone elses…..
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:26 am
face it Pitt lovers – your sick obsession with a dangerous breed places you in a tiny, unloved monority.
kiss your beloved mongrels goodbye, because decent people everywhere are sick of it.
ken Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
what is a monority? and in case you didnt know, redheads are also a minority…..take em all out back and do em, “ol Yeller style”……haha
redheadkingpin Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
oh gee, let’s make the discussion about typos.
you sir, are lame.
if redheads were sick and violent and dangerous, maybe you’d have a point. but you don’t.
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 1:50 am
redhead thats what you’ll get from people like ken who talk out of their asses. They can’t really respond to the facts or to point made so they will result to the old idiotic retort of “oooh ooooooh whats THAT mean?” “ooooh oooooohh oohhhhh you spelled it wrong”……….fkin bitches.
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 10:59 am
you need a life spiro…..seriously
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am
more deaths annually from redheads than pits….its true!
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:38 am
JAYDOGTHEJEWELER…
You are absolutely right!
“Pitbull” is not even a real dog!
Remember the Budweiser ads from like 20 years ago?
Everybody loved Spuds MacKenzie!!!
Wasn’t he supposed to be a “pitbull”? (terrier? like yours?)
Jay, would it be possible to set up something where OR residents can register their pitbull out of state and still keep it at home?
jaydogthejeweler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
BenRod… yes spud was a Bull terrier… what about the dog from “lil rascals” ?? yea..he was an american staffy…. (im pritty sure he may have been APBT but i dont think so)…or how about the time a “pitbull” was on the cover of time mag…stating it was a hero..and “americas dog”…. during world war two…. i dont remember the details now..but look it up… “Hellen keller” ?? APBT owner…TEDDY ROSIVELT HAD “PITBULLS” IN THE f---ING WHITE HOUSE…
my point is… theres a lot of good stories too…but noone talks about those…
now moving on…ben…sorry bud..but your neighbors would surly screw you…. im sure you could get away with it for a while… but my advice is to honestly go down to city hall and throw a f---ing fit…. (in a respectible way)….. and in all reality…registering your dog is looking more and more like a stupid idea just based on the fact that its retrievable information…. its like a gun registry… they know who has guns and who doesnt …oh unless your a criminal then they havent a clue that you have one… but thats ok tho…. just take all the honest citizens away and let the criminals have them ..no biggie….
this topic truely makes me sick…. some of the replys from people are scary… to say the least…
Spiro Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
“please, take my rights….I dont know how to live and need the FEDS to show me”
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
For it says in Revelation “For without are dogs (Man’s best friend)…”
Sorry, Virginia. You can’t take Fido to Heaven. All dogs go to hell to be eaten by Chinese. (Forget the eaten by Chinese Part. Just a Joke.) The only acceptable animals that are allowed in Heaven are Lions, Sheep, and horses.
I Should Have Taken The Blue Pill Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
You are retarded. God will let Lions and sheep and horses into heaven, but not dogs?
Dogs will exist in heaven. They just don’t have souls, therefore, don’t need atonement.
And remember, in the beginning, when God created animals, he said it was, “Good.”
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Pit Bulls are big and scary. I don’t like them. I want them to go away before one bites me and my little brother.
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
My children, my wife, my dogs & my guns, you can have everything else without a fight. But if they f--- with these things listed here, it will only be after youve killed us all.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
its not just the owners. dogs have genetic deep impulses and inclinations specific to their brred. pitbulls
are very aggressive period. not as confrontational as some smaller brreds, but people can survive a dalmation or poodle attack….pitbull attack…………good luck
lisa Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
but the urge to bite humans has been culled. Thats what you dont understand, you say “pits are bred to kill, its in their breed” but as all breeders can confirm, a “man-biter” has never been “studded” most likely they are off-ed right there……So where do the hipocrits get the right, to use the “breeding” of the dog, against its self.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I wish they were as eager to euthanize Republicans and Democrats…
March 11th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Why not – if there has to be some sort of “control” – have the dogs wear a muzzle in public??
Not so bad, could prevent many bites and stop all this legislation that interferes with personal choice.