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Osama bin Laden Responsible for the 9/11 Attacks? Where is the Evidence?
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David Ray Griffin
Infowars
November 2, 2009
The idea that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks has been an article of faith for public officials and the mainstream media. Calling it an “article of faith” points to two features of this idea. On the one hand, no one in these circles publicly challenges this idea.
On the other hand, as I pointed out at length in two of my books – 9/11 Contradictions1 and The New Pearl Harbor Revisited,2 no good evidence has ever been publicly presented to support it.
Colin Powell’s Withdrawn Promise Two weeks after 9/11, Secretary of State Colin Powell, speaking to Tim Russert on Meet the Press, said that he expected “in the near future . . . to put out . . . a document that will describe quite clearly the evidence that we have linking [bin Laden] to this attack.”3
Powell reversed himself, however, at a press conference with President Bush in the White House Rose Garden the next morning, saying that, although the government had information that left no question of bin Laden’s responsibility, “most of it is classified.”4 According to Seymour Hersh, citing officials from both the CIA and the Department of Justice, the real reason for the reversal was a “lack of solid information.”5
This was the week that Bush, after demanding that the Taliban turn over bin Laden, refused their request for evidence that bin Laden had been behind the attacks.6 A senior Taliban official, after the US attack on Afghanistan had begun, said: “We have asked for proof of Osama’s involvement, but they have refused. Why?”7 Hersh’s answer was that they had no proof.
Tony Blair’s Weak Document
The task of providing such proof was taken up by Bush’s chief ally in the “war on terror,” British Prime Minister Tony Blair. On October 4, 2001, Blair made public a document entitled: “Responsibility for the Terrorist Atrocities in the United States.” Listing “clear conclusions reached by the government,” it stated: “Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, the terrorist network which he heads, planned and carried out the atrocities on 11 September 2001.” Blair’s report, however, began by saying: “This document does not purport to provide a prosecutable case against Osama Bin Laden in a court of law.”8 Although the case was not good enough to go to court, Blair seemed to be saying, it was good enough to go to war.
The weakness in Blair’s report, in any event, was noted the next day by the BBC, which said: “There is no direct evidence in the public domain linking Osama Bin Laden to the 11 September attacks. At best the evidence is circumstantial.”9
The FBI’s Surprising Statement
What does our own FBI say? Here is a surprising but little-known fact, because it has scarcely been reported in the mainstream media: The FBI’s “Most Wanted Terrorist” webpage on “Usama bin Laden” does not list the 9/11 attacks as one of the crimes for which he is wanted. It does list bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi as terrorist acts for which he is wanted. But it makes no mention of 9/11.10 In 2006, Rex Tomb, then the FBI’s chief of investigative publicity, was asked why not. He replied: “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”11
After this story started flying around the Internet and was even covered by a TV station in Louisiana,12 Dan Eggen tried to downplay its significance in an August 2006 Washington Post article entitled “Bin Laden, Most Wanted For Embassy Bombings?”13 Complaining about “conspiracy theorists” who claimed that “the lack of a Sept. 11 reference [on the FBI's "Most Wanted" webpage for bin Laden] suggests that the connection to al-Qaeda is uncertain,” Eggen quoted the explanation offered by a former US attorney, who said that the FBI could not appropriately “put up a wanted picture where no formal charges had been filed.”
But that explanation, while true, simply pushes the issue back a step to this question: Why have such charges not been filed? Rex Tomb’s fuller statement, which Eggen failed to mention, had answered this question the previous June, saying:
The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.14
The 9/11 Commission
What about the 9/11 Commission? Its report gave the impression that it was in possession of solid evidence of bin Laden’s guilt. But the Commission’s co-chairs, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, undermined this impression in their follow-up book, which they subtitled: “The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission.”15 (I discussed this book at length in Chapter 2 of my 2007 book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking.16)
As the endnotes for The 9/11 Commission Report reveal, whenever the Commission referred to evidence of bin Ladin’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, the Commission was always referring to CIA-provided information, which had (presumably) been elicited during interrogations of al-Qaeda operatives. By far the most important of these operatives was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, generally called simply “KSM,” who has been called the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. The Commission, for example, wrote:
Bin Ladin . . . finally decided to give the green light for the 9/11 operation sometime in late 1998 or early 1999. . . . Bin Ladin also soon selected four individuals to serve as suicide operatives. . . . Atta – whom Bin Ladin chose to lead the group – met with Bin Ladin several times to receive additional instructions, including a preliminary list of approved targets: the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the U.S. Capitol.17
The note for each of these statements says: “interrogation of KSM.”18
Kean and Hamilton, however, reported that they had no success in “obtaining access to star witnesses in custody . . . , most notably Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.”19 Besides not being allowed to interview these witnesses, Commission members were not even permitted to observe the interrogations through one-way glass or to talk to the interrogators.20 Therefore, Kean and Hamilton complained: “We . . . had no way of evaluating the credibility of detainee information. How could we tell if someone such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed . . . was telling us the truth?”21
An NBC “deep background” report in 2008 pointed out an additional problem: KSM and the other al-Qaeda leaders had been subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques,” i.e., torture, and it is now widely acknowledged that statements elicited by torture lack credibility. “At least four of the operatives whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report,” NBC pointed out, “have claimed that they told interrogators critical information as a way to stop being ‘tortured.’” NBC then quoted Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, as saying: “Most people look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a trusted historical document. If their conclusions were supported by information gained from torture, . . . their conclusions are suspect.”22
The “Bin Laden Confession Tapes”
As we have seen, neither the 9/11 Commission, the Bush-Cheney White House, the FBI, the British government, nor the 9/11 Commission provided good evidence that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Many people, however, have assumed that the question of his responsibility was settled by the existence of videotapes and audiotapes in which he himself confessed to the attacks. There are, however, good reasons to believe that these so-called confession tapes are fakes. I will illustrate this point in terms of the two best-known videotapes of this nature.
The “Jalalabad Video” Released December 13, 2001: The first and most famous of the “Osama bin Laden confession video tapes” was released by the Pentagon on December 13, 2001. It had purportedly been made on November 9, 2001, after which it was allegedly found by US forces in a private home in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. In this video, an Osama bin Laden figure is seen talking about the 9/11 attacks with a visiting sheikh. During the course of the conversation, the bin Laden figure boasts about the success of the attacks, saying that he had planned them.23 Both US and British officials claimed that this tape left no doubt about bin Laden’s guilt.24
Stories in both the Canadian and British media, however, raised questions about the tape’s authenticity. These stories, besides pointing out the existence of the technical ability to create fake video tapes, also mentioned the suspicion of some people that the bin Laden figure was not Osama bin Laden himself.
A BBC News report said: “Washington calls it the ‘smoking gun’ that puts Bin Laden’s guilt beyond doubt, but many in the Arab world believe the home video of the al-Qaeda chief is a fake.”25 This report was, in fact, entitled, “Could the Bin Laden Video Be a Fake?”
This question was also raised in Canada by CBC News, which pointed out that some people had “suggested the Americans hired someone to pretend to be the exiled Saudi.”26
This question was raised even more insistently in a Guardian story with the title, “US Urged to Detail Origin of Tape.” Reporting “growing doubt in the Muslim world about the authenticity of the film,” writer Steven Morris said:
The White House yesterday came under pressure to give more details of the video which purports to show Osama bin Laden admitting his part in the September 11 attacks.27
Morris, pointing out that the White House had provided no details about how the Pentagon came to be in possession of the tape, added:
According to US officials the tape was found in a house in Jalalabad, eastern Afghanistan, and handed to the Pentagon by an unnamed person or group. . . . But for many the explanation is too convenient. Some opponents of the war theorise that the Bin Laden in the film was a look-alike.
Morris then quoted one such opponent in Pakistan, who said: “This videotape is not authentic. The Americans made it up after failing to get any evidence against Osama.”
Morris also cited Bob Crabtree, the editor of Computer Video magazine, who explained that it was impossible to determine whether the video was authentic without more details of its source, adding: “The US seems simply to have asked the world to trust them that it is genuine.”28
This skepticism about the authenticity of this “Jalalabad video” was based on sound reasons. For one thing, this video’s bin Laden figure appeared too heavy and healthy, compared with the bin Laden who made the last of the undoubtedly authentic bin Laden videos, which was made sometime in 2001 between November 16 (on which occurred an event mentioned on the tape) and December 27 (the date on which the tape was released). In this post-November 16 video, bin Laden’s beard was white, he had a “gaunt, frail appearance,” and his “left arm hung limply by his side while he gesticulated with his right.”29 This immobile left arm, Dr. Sanjay Gupta observed on CNN, suggested that bin Laden had suffered a stroke, adding that this plus a “frosting of the appearance” suggested that bin Laden was in the final stages of kidney failure.30
But in the “Jalalabad video,” which was reportedly made at about the same time (being dated November 9 and released December 13), the bin Laden figure was heavier and also darker, in both skin and beard color; his nose had a different shape;31 and his hands were shorter and heavier than those of Osama bin Laden as seen in undoubtedly authentic videos.32
Still another problem is that, whereas bin Laden was left-handed, the man in the “Jalalabad video” wrote with his right hand. Although it might be thought that this was because his left arm was immobile, the bin Laden figure in this video was easily able to lift his left arm above his head.33
If this video was made on November 9, as claimed, then it would have been made at most only a few weeks before the post-November 16 video. It is very hard to believe that the heavy, dark-skinned, healthy-looking man with a dark beard could have, within two or three weeks, turned into the pale, gaunt, white-bearded, man seen in the post-November 16 video.
If one accepts the Jalalabad video as authentic, one not only has to accept these radical changes in bin Laden’s physical appearance; one must also accept a complete change in his statements about 9/11. In the previous weeks, he had repeatedly – on September 12, 16, 17, and 28 – stated that he had had nothing to do with the attacks.34 In the September 28 statement, he had even declared:
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. . . . [W]e are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed.35
Is it likely that he would have made such statements if he himself had authorized the attacks and thereby the killing of innocents?
Whatever be one’s opinion about that, the bin Laden figure in the “Jalalabad video” made other statements that Osama bin Laden himself would surely not have made. For example, he said:
[W]e calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy who would be killed based on the position of the tower. . . . [D]ue to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for.36
But in light of the real bin Laden’s “experience in the field” as a building contractor, he would have known that high-rise buildings are framed with steel, not iron. Even more important, he would have known that the buildings’ support columns – whether made of steel or iron – would not have been melted by the “fire from the gas in the plane.” Why? Because he would have known, on the one hand, that a building fire, even if fed by jet-fuel (which is essentially kerosene), could not, even under the most ideal conditions, have risen above 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit (1,000 degrees Celsius). And he would have known, on the other hand, that iron and steel do not begin to melt until they are heated to a temperature far higher than that: to almost 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit (1,540 degrees Celsius). The real bin Laden, therefore, would not have expected any iron or steel to melt.
A final reason to consider the “Jalalabad video” a fake is that bin Laden experts have declared it to such. When Dr. Bruce Lawrence, a Duke University history professor widely considered the country’s leading academic bin Laden expert,37 was asked what he thought about this video, he said, bluntly: “It’s bogus.” Some friends of his in the US Department of Homeland Security assigned to work “on the 24/7 bin Laden clock,” he added, “also know it’s bogus.”38
General Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistan’s ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence), suggested that the man in the video was an “Osama bin Laden lookalike.”39
Former Foreign Service officer Angelo Codevilla, after saying “[t]he guy just does not look like Osama,” added: “The fact that the video had been made for no self-evident purpose except perhaps to be found by the Americans should have raised suspicion.”40
A fourth expert opinion has been issued implicitly, it would seem, by the Department of Justice and its FBI. If they considered this “confession video” authentic, would they not consider it “hard evidence” of bin Laden’s responsibility for 9/11? They say, however, that they have no such evidence, so they must not consider this video authentic.
The “October Surprise Video of 2004: The other most famous of the “bin Laden confession tapes” is the video tape that was released on October 29, 2004, just before the presidential election between George W. Bush and John Kerry, leading to its being called “the October Surprise video.” In this one, for the first time, a bin Laden figure directly addressed the American people. The Associated Press, focusing on the most important aspect of the speaker’s message, entitled its story: “Bin Laden, in Statement to U.S. People, Says He Ordered Sept. 11 Attacks.”41 However, although the AP accepted the authenticity of the tape, there are serious reasons to doubt it.
A reason to be at least suspicious is the very fact that it appeared just four days before the presidential election and seemed designed to help Bush’s reelection – an assessment that was made even by CIA analysts.42 The video, moreover, evidently did help: Bush’s lead over Kerry in national polls increased right after it appeared,43 and both Bush and Kerry said that this tape was significantly responsible for Bush’s victory.44 Given the fact that this video would quite predictably help Bush win reelection, it would seem to have been issued by his friends, not his enemies.
There are also substantive reasons to doubt this tape’s authenticity, one of which is the speaker’s language. The clearly authentic bin Laden messages were filled with religious language. A bin Laden video released October 7, 2001, for example, began thus:
Praise be to God and we beseech Him for help and forgiveness. We seek refuge with the Lord of our bad and evildoing. He whom God guides is rightly guided . . . . I witness that there is no God but God and Mohammed is His slave and Prophet.45
Even though this talk as a whole had only 725 words, bin Laden referred to God (Allah) 20 times and to the prophet Mohammed 3 times. Likewise, his message of November 3, 2001, which contained 2,333 words, referred to God 35 times and to the prophet Mohammed 8 times.46 By contrast, the 2004 October Surprise video, which had almost the same number of words as the November 3 video, referred to God only 12 times. The only “Mohammad” mentioned, moreover, was Mohamed Atta.
Another substantive difference involved the type of causal analysis provided. Bin Laden’s clearly authentic messages had portrayed historical events as occurring only because they were caused, or at least allowed, by God. In his message of October 7, 2001, for example, he said: “God Almighty hit the United States. . . . He destroyed its greatest buildings.” Human agents were involved, to be sure, but they were successful only because “Almighty God . . . allowed them to destroy the United States.”47 In his message of November 3, likewise, bin Laden said that, if people are helped or harmed, it is always by “something that God has already preordained for [them].”48
The message on the 2004 confession video, however, reflected a worldview in which events can be understood through a causal analysis based on secular rationalism. “One of the most important things rational people do when calamities occur,” the lecturer asserted, “is to look for their causes so as to avoid them.” He himself, in analyzing “the [Iraq] war, its causes and consequences,” provided a causal analysis involving purely human actors: Bush, al-Qaeda, and the American people. Far from suggesting that everything is finally in the hands of God, he said to the American people: “Your security is in your own hands” – a statement that a devout Wahabi Muslim such as Osama bin Laden would surely have considered blasphemous.
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Still another reason to doubt the authenticity of this 2004 video is that, although the speaker was addressing the American public, he spoke Arabic rather than English. This is strange, because Osama bin Laden was reportedly fluent in English, which he had started studying when he was 11 years old.49 A British journalist reported that, when he and bin Laden met in 1989, they conversed in English for 45 minutes.50 General Hamid Gul, speaking to United Press International in 2001, said: “I know bin Laden and his associates. They are graduates of the best universities and . . . speak impeccable English.51 If bin Laden spoke impeccable English, would he not have used it when speaking directly to the American people?52
Accordingly, this video does not, any more than the “Jalalabad video,” provide evidence that Osama bin Laden himself confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks.
Conclusion
I showed in a previous essay that, according to the best evidence presently available, Osama bin Laden has been dead for many years.53 In the present essay, I have shown that there is not even any good evidence for the claim that bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Accordingly, insofar as the justification for the continuation of the AfPak war is based on the fact that bin Laden in the region both before and after the 9/11 attacks, that justification would seem to be doubly baseless.
David Ray Griffin is the author of 36 books, nine of which are about 9/11. His most recent book is The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Final Official Report about 9/11 Is Unscientific and False (Olive Branch, 2009). In 2008, he put out two books: The New Pearl Harbor: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Exposé (which was named a “Pick of the Week” by Publishers Weekly) and Osama bin Laden: Dead Or Alive? (which has generated considerable media coverage in England).
Notes
1. 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2008), Chap. 18, “Does the Government Have Hard Evidence of Bin Laden’s Responsibility?”
2. The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Exposé (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2008). This book was named Publishers Weekly’s “Pick of the Week” on November 24, 2008 (http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6617001.html?industryid=47159).
3. “Meet the Press,” NBC, September 23, 2001 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/nbctext092301.html).
4. “Remarks by the President, Secretary of the Treasury O’Neill and Secretary of State Powell on Executive Order,” White House, September 24, 2001 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010924-4.html).
5. Seymour M. Hersh, “What Went Wrong: The C.I.A. and the Failure of American Intelligence,” New Yorker, October 1, 2001 (http://cicentre.com/Documents/DOC_Hersch_OCT_01.htm).
6. “White House Warns Taliban: ‘We Will Defeat You,’” CNN, September 21, 2001 (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/21/ret.afghan.taliban).
7. Kathy Gannon, “Taliban Willing to Talk, But Wants U.S. Respect,” Associated Press, November 1, 2001 (http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2001nn/0111nn/011101nn.htm#300).
8. Office of the Prime Minister, “Responsibility for the Terrorist Atrocities in the United States,” BBC News, October 4, 2001 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/1579043.stm).
9. “The Investigation and the Evidence,” BBC News, October 5, 2001 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1581063.stm).
10. Federal Bureau of Investigation, “Most Wanted Terrorists: Usama bin Laden” (http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm).
11. Ed Haas, “FBI says, ‘No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11′” Muckraker Report, June 6, 2006 (http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html).
12. “Bin Laden’s FBI Poster Omits Any 9/11 Connection,” KSLA 12 in Shreveport, Louisiana
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6443576002087829136).
13. “Bin Laden, Most Wanted For Embassy Bombings?” Washington Post, August 28, 2006 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html)
14. Haas, “FBI says, ‘No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.’”
15. Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton, with Benjamin Rhodes, Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 2006).
16. David Ray Griffin, Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory, revised and updated edition (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2007). This book won a bronze medal in the 2008 Independent Publishers Book Awards.
17. The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, authorized edition (New York: W. W. Norton, 2004), 149, 155, 166; henceforth 9/11CR.
18. See 9/11CR Ch. 5, notes 16, 41, and 92.
19. Kean and Hamilton, Without Precedent, 118.
20. Ibid., 122-24.
21. Ibid., 119. I have discussed this issue at greater length in Ch. 8, “9/11 Commission Falsehoods about Bin Laden, al-Qaeda, Pakistanis, and Saudis,” of The New Pearl Harbor Revisited.
22. Robert Windrem and Victor Limjoco, “The 9/11 Commission Controversy,” Deep Background: NBC News Investigations, January 30, 2008 http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/30/624314.aspx).
23. “U.S. Releases Videotape of Osama bin Laden,” Department of Defense, December 13, 2001 (http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=3184); “Pentagon Releases Bin Laden Videotape: U.S. Officials Say Tape Links Him to Sept. 11 Attacks,” National Public Radio, December 13, 2001 http://www.npr.org/news/specials/response/investigation/011213.binladen.tape.html). The entire video can be viewed at this NPR Web page.
24. See my book Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive? (Northampton: Olive Branch [Interlink Books], 2009), 23-26.
25. “Could the Bin Laden Video Be a Fake?” BBC News, December 14, 2001 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1711288.stm).
26. “‘Feeble’ to Claim Bin Laden Tape Fake: Bush,” CBC, December 14, 2001 (http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2001/12/14/bush_osama011214.html).
27. Steven Morris, “US Urged to Detail Origin of Tape,” Guardian, December 15, 2001 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/dec/15/september11.afghanistan).
28. Ibid.
29. Toby Harnden, “US Casts Doubt on Bin Laden’s Latest Message,” Telegraph, December 27, 2001
30. “Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden Would Need Help if on Dialysis,” CNN, January 21, 2002
(http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/index.html). For the tape, see “”Osama Bin Laden Tape Dezember [sic] 2001″ (http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3760193/Osama_Bin_Laden_Tape_Dezember_2001).
31. For a nose comparison, see “Osama bin Laden Gets a Nose Job” (http://www.awitness.org/news/december_2001/osama_nose_job.html),
or “Bruce Lawrence,” Radio Du Jour (http://www.radiodujour.com/people/lawrence_bruce).
32. Compare his hands with bin Laden’s hand as shown in the post-November 16 video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1729882.stm).
33. This can be seen in a portion of the Jalalabad video placed on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0FVeqCX6z8).
34. For documentation and discussion, see Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive? 27-29.
35. “Interview with Usama bin Laden,” Ummat (Karachi), September 28, 2001
http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_interview_ummat.htm).
Bin Laden’s statement about innocents repeated what he had said in an interview with John Miller of ABC News in 1998: “Our religion forbids us from killing innocent people such as women and children”
36. “Transcript of Usama bin Laden Video Tape,” Department of Defense, December 13, 2001 (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf).
37. Bruce Lawrence is the editor of Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama Bin Laden (London and New York: Verso, 2005).
38. Lawrence made these statements on February 16, 2007, during a radio interview conducted by Kevin Barrett of the University of Wisconsin at Madison. It can be heard at Radio Du Jour (http://www.radiodujour.com/people/lawrence_bruce).
39. BBC News, “Tape ‘Proves Bin Laden’s Guilt,’” December 14, 2001 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1708091.stm).
40. Angelo M. Codevilla, “Osama bin Elvis,” American Spectator, March 2009 (http://spectator.org/archives/2009/03/13/osama-bin-elvis/print).
41. Maggie Michael, “Bin Laden, in Statement to U.S. People, Says He Ordered Sept. 11 Attacks,” Associated Press, October 29, 2004 (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/terror/20041029-1423-binladentape.html).
42. Ron Suskind, The One Percent Doctrine: Deep Inside America’s Pursuit of Its Enemies Since 9/11 (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2006), 336.
43. Philip Sherwell, “Bush Takes a Six-Point Lead After New Bin Laden Tape,” Telegraph, November 1, 2004 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1475515/Bush-takes-a-six-point-lead-after-new-bin-Laden-tape.html).
44. “Kerry Blames Defeat on Bin Laden,” BBC News, January 31, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4222647.stm); “Bush Says Bin Laden Tape Aided Re-Election: Report,” Reuters, February 28, 2006 http://www.redorbit.com/news/politics/408991/bush_says_bin_laden_tape_aided_reelection_report/).
45. “Bin Laden’s Warning: Full Text,” BBC News, October 7, 2001 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1585636.stm).
46. “BBC Transcript Of Osama Bin Laden Statement,” November 7, 2001 (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0111/S00049.htm).
47. “Bin Laden’s Warning: Full Text.”
48. “BBC Transcript Of Osama Bin Laden Statement.”
49. See “In the Footsteps of Bin Laden,” CNN, August 23, 2006 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/23/cp.01.html), and Steve Coll, “Young Osama,” New Yorker, December 12, 2005 http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/12/051212fa_fact).
50. “In the Footsteps of Bin Laden.”
51. “Arnaud de Borchgrave Interviews Hameed Gul, Former Chief of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence,” UPI, September 26, 2001 (http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/594-499.aspx; also available at(http://www.robert-fisk.com/hamid_gul_interview_sept26_2001.htm).
52. I have given a more thorough analysis of the problems in these two “confession videos” in my book Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive? (Northampton: Olive Branch [Interlink Books, 2009).
53. “Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?” Veterans Today, October 22, 2009 (http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9079).
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November 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
FIRST!
AMERICAN WHORE Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
your as queer as a three dollar bill.
Marc Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Thats not nice. This is nice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0s4Gj7kGss
GOVROCKS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
THAT VID IS FAKE.
sirtindoom Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
This was a very good read. Excellent article, filled with facts and observations. Infowars writers pay attention!!!!
Marc Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
I made it myself, and how is it fake? Whats fake about it? I dnot understand? How to stop obamas tiny nipples. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0s4Gj7kGss
ITS ALL SUBTERFUGE Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 am
course b ladin wasn’t responsible. Does he control the remote flying control signals, access to plant the bombs, control of the puppet media, blair, bush, bloomberg, bama, banks, bailouts, baal industry, baghdad bombin, booyah!
HUUAAHH SOLDIER!!!!
HHHUUUAAAHH!!!
get down on your knees and worship your president now soldier! love your servitude!
STOP LOSS!!! STOP LOSS!!!
SIGN UP TO DIE SLAVE YES GET A PAYCHECK 30 pieces of silver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxmfGIDCBG8
D Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 am
The newage awakening just hit overdrive Hurry to watch this PLEASE HURRY
Not much time to pull our brothers and sisters out of this fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0svfL4hU4FQ
the point in this video you need to notice 4:08
THEN
/watch?v=EMjrTdUUVFM
notice the same picture
this is a set up icke is an N W O implant Icke hates Jesus
here is a video of icke getting praised by AJ and aj admitting icke is his teacher
/watch?v=sIJlRiwAbaI
jt Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:15 am
Even if Bin Laden was found to be responsibe, that still doesnt mean the CIA was not involved in helping him. After all it was the CIA who invented him and the Bushes happen to be the founding fathers of the CIA. Strange how this all happened on a Bushes watch.
4X4 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
3 dollar bills have feelings too.
sirtindoom Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Because they are queer
logic Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Why doesnt somebody independently use facial recognition software and compare the bin ladens that would obviously put an end to this because there is no way it would say they were a match
firters are gay. Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
IT SHOULD SAY FISTER,GO FIST F YOUR SELF YOU LOSER,
GOVROCKS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
YOU WILL BE FIRST IN LINE FOR THE FEMA TRAIN ALSO,YOUR A RETARDED SHILL.
A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 am
fuck your dog again
JessieJames Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 am
you….firster….are a complete fucktard assclown……thats all you can come up with….FIRST! huhu…..what a fucking tool
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Nice
A Patriot Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Agreed!
Griffin ALWAYS delivers!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
first. lol this is bullcrap.
AMERICAN WHORE Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
your fourth loser.
AMERICAN WHORE Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
big time,these losers have no clue,
A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 am
you’re NOT first YOU are what is bullcrap
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
yeah… and I think it’s time the people of Afghanistan were appologised to and compensated.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Osama is Orwell’s “Goldstein”. A bullshit scapegoat character in a political story.
GOVROCKS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
your a golstein,loser take your shots.
GOVROCKS SMELLS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
ooo look out it’s binny laydin!!! take your shots!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
bin laden did it you retard,take your shots and shut up first bitches.
whore exposed here ^ Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Did he had the power over National Security. NWO buttlicker
AMERICAN BORE Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
ooo binny laydins coming!!! oo mummmy!! want my shots mummy!! ooo!!!
YOU ARE SOFT IN THE HEAD, GET A GRIP.
A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 am
no he didn’t you retarded fuck – just because its on TV doesn’t mean he’s guilty you fuck nugget – SHOW ME SOME PROOF
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
People do not want to WAKE UP. America is soooo programmed that I am afraid it is hopeless.
4X4 Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Doesn’t help that the patriot movement is controlled by the nwo powers themselves either.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
Al-Qaeda and Taliban are PAWNS of the U.S. high ranking psychopats and world SCUM elite that works for the destabilisation of countrys (PURPOSE: ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT WITH A “ONE WORLD BANK” RUN BY THEM [TO ENSLAVE THE WHOLE WORLD POPULATION AND CARRYING OUT THE EVIL AGENDA ON THEM = ENDGAME]). CIA goes as a “mainstream” terrorist
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/US-funds-terror-groups-to-sow-chaos-in-Iran.html
presstv.ir/detail/98327.htm?sectionid=351020401
presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=109453§ionid=351020101
infowars.com/madsen-taliban-imported-to-conduct-false-flag-terrorism-in-iraq
prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/280507usesalqaeda.htm
prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-are-pawns-of-the-us-military-industrial-complex.html
infowars.com/western-governments-funding-taliban-al-qaeda-to-kill-us-troops-destabilize-countries
blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know
infowars.com/iran-captures-cia-terrorists
infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_us_uses_al_qaeda_to_attack_iran.htm
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html
corbettreport.com/articles/20090623_destabilization.htm
infowars.com/iranian-interior-minister-western-intelligence-behind-riots-and-unrest
infowars.com/former-pakistan-general-us-supports-jundullah-terrorists-in-iran
globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13325
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7942G_x-So
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html
abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3206417
youtube.com/watch?v=_wg3r2YSM9g
Events like 9/11, the London Bombings and the Madrid Bombing were ALL accompanied by Security/Military EXERCISES which paralleled the real events
historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=militaryExercises
historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_guardian
…
Nano Thermite found in WTC dust
stj911.org/press_releases/ActiveThermiticMaterial.html
ae911truth.org/info/51
russiatoday.com/Politics/2009-07-09/Did_nano-thermite_take_down_the_WTC.html
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
BARNEY FRANKINASS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
YOUR SPREADING FALSE INFO,WE WILL TRACK YOU AND GIVE YOU SHOTS,AND SENT YOU TO THE CAMPS WERE YOUR KIND BELONG.
JJ Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Satan bal-licker, go hang yourselve.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
YOUR MOM WAS A INSIDE JOB.
Drunkerton Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
The best part of your stupidity ran out of YOUR mothers fat ASS…..
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
INSIDE JOB,MAYBE INSIDE YOUR PANTS.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
come on grown up.inside job,maybe inside your pants.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
msnbc told us it was not an inside job,we should take that to heart and learn the facts,the truthers are fear mongers.they should be stopped at all means.
Kate Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Mingy gingy
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch_p.....SWSzY#t=28
The cards in Obama’s hands
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Does anyone know when Jesse Ventura’s new show Conspriacy Theory is supposed to start?
r@bb Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Premiere On: Wed, December 2 at 10P trutv
Dragonslayer Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Thanks man.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Hijo del diablo …??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DBlAiTYYk
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Ask ron paul where the evidence is.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
are people here really calling each other butt and ball lickers? how immature are you all?
sirtindoom Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Last!! For now…
Half-Grand Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 pm
I was thinking that very same thing Sean, the comments section is a place we people gather to voice their opinions or give additional information about the above article. Instead it is a place of unending religious debate (that can never be truely won), accusasions of working for the illuminati or doomsday theories.
We are all adults here I presume, so start acting like it. Be strong and don’t be tempted into immaturity.
BEAVIS CORNHOLIUS Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
‘Tis YE who art thy licker of balls. I’m like, sooo immature. gag me with a spoon
Doomer Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
omfg so many fkin trolls here
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
There is no evidence that backs the Bin Laden propaganda op , all the evidence points to the
false flag ” theories ” !!!
P.S. It’s a no brainer !!!
AMERICAN BORE Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Maybe it will be pinned on the bushies?
OOO BINNY LAD OO BINNY LAD OOO!
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I don’t know, maybe I can conduct a 20 minute fake interview with Osama bin Laden and ask him.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
The article by Mr. Griffin raises serious doubts about Osama’s culpability in the 9-11-01 bombings. Two things strike me as very suspicious. The FBI didn’t charge Bin Laden with those crimes and the CIA sounded very doubtful as well. John Ritter, not John Ritter of “Threes Company” acclaim, but a former Marine, who was on the U.N.’s task force for inspecting possible nuclear weapons ala WMD’s, said that his task force found nothing in Iraq. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this was pre 9-11. It seems that 9-11 was obviously the best excuse to attack Afghanistan and then Iraq. I have heard that this whole fiasco was planned anyway. Do you believe your government? Who’s for a New World Order Government?
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
HE’S DEAD!
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I no longer believe a thing that my government tells me.
I have been lied to so often that I just cannot accept that Bin Laden did it.
I now think that it was Mossad(Israel had the security contracts for both airports the jets took off from).
Odigo,the instant messaging service(another Israeli firm) warned Jews on that day to avoid the towers(I think not one Israeli died that day-even though Jews are very heavily involved in finance in NY).
I have bad news for you all,America lies more than any terroist does.
You can call Bin Laden many things,but “liar” is not one of them.
Do you trust what Bush told you?
Do you trust what Obama says?
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
What about the insurance company’s? Were are there investigation reports. They are the ones that paid out.
They must know the truth why has one insurance company not released their findings? MCB
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
I have an urgent message for you, more important than any message you can hear. God is Holy and cannot accept sin(honor thy mother and father…, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor, thou shall not covet..etc…Exodus 20:12-17). Here are some verses that show examples of sin:
“Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Matthew 5:21-22
“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:27-28
“It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32
“For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23. Your good deeds cannot cover up your bad deeds.
“But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12
You could be perfect in all the law and stumble at one point and it is as if you broke all of them:
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” James 4:17
God wrote the law on each man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand before Christ(”Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another” Romans 2:15). The penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. I am warning you about hell because I love you! You are dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE THAT QUENCHES NOT(”…the fire is not quenched” Mark 9:44). It is a horrible and terrible place of everlasting torment that people will go because of their sins.
“And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24
“In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
But God has provided a way for each to escape the lake of fire. He sent his Son Jesus(God manifest in the flesh-1 Timothy 3:16) who was conceived by a virgin by the Holy Spirit of God,lived a sinless life, and suffered a horrible death/shed blood and rose again 3 days later to take the penalty of YOUR sins so you dont have to pay for them in hell for eternity! He loved you so much which is why he did it! He is the only one to have fufilled the law perfectly(sinless) and paid the price of the entire world’s sins so that man could be saved on the merits of His perfection(see Romans 5:19). All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust in Him to save you as a sinner). You must admit your lost sinful condition to Him/that you’re worthy of hell, and ask Him to save you by placing complete trust in Jesus ALONE for salvation(an example in the Word of someone doing this- “And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.” Luke 18:13).It is not even partly by yourselves that you can be saved, but only by the merits of Jesus Christ!
“For God so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” John 3:16.
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2
“…Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” Revelation 1:5
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
“Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:29-31
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:9-10
No works or anything you do can save you! May God open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of God(the 1611 King James version- NOT the modern versions, they are corrupt) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting. You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Make sure you are saved TODAY! The Bible condemns the rich, the wealthy, and those who take advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! It declares all mankind as sinners(myself included).
I am a Christian, and love you enough to warn you of the dangers of hell. Beware, the Roman catholic church is NOT Christian! The church CANNOT save you but only Christ! Just because someone says they are a Christian does not necessarily mean they are one(remember the crusades in history? Many were murdered in the name of Christianity. These were no Christians at all by their testimony). Please email me to inquire more. I would be glad to help you out in your search for truth!(my email- livingwaters705@hotmail.com)…To those who slander/mock me, I pray for you and love you anyways and hope you will trust Christ before its too late!
I call upon my fellow Christians on here to return hate posts with love and blessings. The Lord commands us to love them:
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew 5:43-45
Salvation is not found in good works, rituals, church, the pope, water baptism, good lives, etc….But ONLY found by faith in Jesus Christ the Savior!
If you need prayer or anything, just let me know! I would be glad to help! I love and care for you, and I have prayed that every person that reads this who do not know the Lord, would one day turn to Christ in faith for salvation for their sins. I beg you to turn to Christ in faith before it is too late! You get ONE chance while living and then it is too late forever:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Hebrews 9:27
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6
“…there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:21-22
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17…….
Dave Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 am
TRUTHER,does it bother you that people aren’t even making fun of you any more?
By the way,how do you know that your religion is “the real one” and not just some fake like all the rest?
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
There is no evidence whatsoever that Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11.
However, there is a mountain of evidence that points to the Jews being behind 9/11.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Bin Laden was in Afghanistan and has many witnesses.
If you believe Bin Laden did it. You also believe the hijackers used box cutters to hijack a plane.
Or that cell phones worked in airplanes back then.
There is more evidence that Turks did it with help from the Saudi’s if you listen to Sibel Edmonds testimony.
Bin Laden is hanging out with Kenny Boy, Elvis, and Michael Jackson.
Benazir Bhutto can confirm it. She is standing right next to them as we talk.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
“Where is the evidence?”
David Ray Griffin is assuming that people give a flip about evidence. People today are not bound by logic, truth or evidence. People no longer believe in objective truth. Everything is subjective to the slaves. If they say to themselves that it doesn’t exist, it doesn’t exist. The vast majority of people in America are mentally retarded, and only a small minority of people will even investigate 9/11. But the retards will believe everything the gubermint says.
Johnny Canuck Reply:
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Yep, I’ve tried to talk to people, whom I thought were intelligent, and they just refuse to listen. I could tell them all the facts I have seen and gathered from all kinds of responsible sites, but they just sit there and call you a”tin-foil hat wearer”. Well, maybe I wear a tin-foil hat, but their hats are made of lead! They tell me not to believe anything on the Internet, I tell them it’s the World Library, and how can you believe TV, magazines and newspapers that are full of lies, or just ignore certain things. “Did you know there was a third building that went down on 911?” “Duh!!!”
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Yes a rich man living in a cave organized other cave men and had the sophistication to hi jack and then fly very large jet aircraft like they’ve been doing it all there lives and better than those that have been doing it all there lives yet can’t figure out to walk across an open boarder and continue to fight the mighty Satan. A nation that was attacked would shut there boarders down immediately. There is no threat from Islamic terrorist, there never was. More Americans have died from illegal aliens since 9-11 than all that have died from 9-11. Where’s the urgency to protect the American people from the real terror? There is none.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
September 29, 2009
Peter B Collins talks one on one with Prof. David Ray Griffin, focusing on the two most recent of his 35 books: The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Final Official Report About 9/11 is Unscientific and False and Osama bin Laden, Dead of Alive? Building 7 is the gateway to busting the myths of 9/11 embraced by the discredited 9/11 Commission. Dr. Griffin talks about how Van Jones was vilified just for signing a petition calling for a new investigation, and about the effort to pass a NYC referendum enabling a new inquiry. He offers many examples of the NIST reports exagerrations and fabrications, and concludes that WTC was brought down in a controlled demolition. In the bin Laden book, he details all of the reports of bin Laden’s death, evaluates the credibility of video and audio releases attributed to bin Laden, and concludes that he is probably dead.
http://edwardrynearson.wordpre.....uilding-7/
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Evidence? That’s dangerous thinking, asking for actual evidence. You are with the Government or you are with the TERRORISTS!
Bunch of thought-criminals you are.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pm
the govt. is lying like the dogs they are,,, check out the 9/11 anthrax story,,,,, the evidence is pointing to ,,,,, who else? the cia… the fbi won’t investigate, not a real investigation,,,, do you know that more then one big player in the govt bioweapon program showed up dead for no good reason,,,,,,,,, it appears to be a pattern with this issue…….. check it out
nothing is higher then truth.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 am
Osama bin Laden didn’t do it. Also, he didn’t do any of the other so called bombings, either. How do I know? Just look at the liars that said he did! These are the same liars that said Iraq had WMDs.
These are the same liars that were doing business with Osama bin Laden when the Russians were in Afghanistan. These are the same liars that say they can’t find him after 8 years of so called, “searching the mountains” for him!
No solid proof he did ANYTHING! No solid proof anything we’ve been told are NOT lies. We are just suppose to have faith in the confirmed liars, that haven’t said anything that is true!
The only terrorists we have to worry about are the ones in $5,000 suits and we see on the TV lying to us everyday! The usual “hidden in plain sight” gang!
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 am
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
http://www.2besaved.com
Blessings
Ben
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:56 am
The Gubermint would never do anything to harm us. Gubermint officials and authorities are by definition like bunny rabbits froliking in the field on a summers day, enjoying the cool breeze.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 am
pussy stink
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 am
“Capital to be filled with livid American’s”. Thursday @ 12:00pm. http://www.worldnetdaily.com
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
There will be wars and rumors of war throughout the time line of man. Jesus told us this. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. The end of the church age is coming, and you can bet the rapture will be when no one expects it. This earth is destined to go through 7 years of torment known as the tribulation, and it will be basically hell on earth. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
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