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  • Pakistan and the Taliban: What Gen. McChrystal Didn’t Tell You

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    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    September 23, 2009

    On September 22, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, told the Los Angeles Times he has evidence that factions of Pakistani and Iranian spy services are supporting insurgent groups that carry out attacks on coalition troops. Taliban fighters in Afghanistan are being aided by “elements of some intelligence agencies,” McChrystal wrote in a detailed and heavily redacted analysis of the military situation delivered to the White House earlier this month.

    “McChrystal went on to single out Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency as well as the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as contributing to the external forces working to undermine U.S. interests and destabilize the government in Kabul,” the newspaper reported.

    Allegations of Iran attempting to undermine the twin U.S. occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq are nothing new. Bush’s neocons often made the same allegations without much solid evidence.

    It is difficult to believe this scenario for one obvious reason — Iran is Shi’a Muslim and Afghanistan predominately Sunni. The two factions have been religious and ideological enemies for centuries.

    The allegation about Pakistan aiding the Taliban, however, is backed up by plenty of evidence. The Taliban was a pet project of not only Pakistan’s ISI, but the CIA as well, although the general did not mention this (he may have in the redacted sections of the above linked document).

    In 1994, following the CIA’s defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan with the assistance of Pakistan and the Saudis, Pakistan began funding and supporting radical madrassa students known as Taliban, Pashtun for “students.” This effort was funded by the U.S., Britain, and the Saudis. The Saudis in particular backed the Taliban because they espoused the same austere religious beliefs.

    “With the aid of the Pakistani army, the Taliban swept across most of the exhausted country promising a restoration of order and finally capturing Kabul in September 1996. The Taliban imposed an ultra-sectarian version of Islam, closely related to Wahhabism, the ruling creed in Saudi Arabia. Women have been denied education, health care, and the right to work. They must cover themselves completely when in public. Minorities have been brutally repressed. Even singing and dancing in public are forbidden,” writes Phil Gasper.

    The U.S. government was well aware of the Taliban’s reactionary program, yet it chose to back their rise to power in the mid-1990s. The creation of the Taliban was “actively encouraged by the ISI and the CIA,” according to Selig Harrison, an expert on U.S. relations with Asia. “The United States encouraged Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to support the Taliban, certainly right up to their advance on Kabul,” adds respected journalist Ahmed Rashid. When the Taliban took power, State Department spokesperson Glyn Davies said that he saw “nothing objectionable” in the Taliban’s plans to impose strict Islamic law, and Senator Hank Brown, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Near East and South Asia, welcomed the new regime: “The good part of what has happened is that one of the factions at last seems capable of developing a new government in Afghanistan.” “The Taliban will probably develop like the Saudis. There will be Aramco [the consortium of oil companies that controlled Saudi oil], pipelines, an emir, no parliament and lots of Sharia law. We can live with that,” said another U.S. diplomat in 1997.

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    The award-winning journalist and filmmaker John Pilger wrote in late 2001 as the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan unfolded, “the Taliban itself is a creation of the Americans and the British. In the 1980s, the tribal army that produced them was funded by the CIA and trained by the SAS to fight the Russians…. When the Taliban took Kabul in 1996, Washington said nothing. Why? Because Taliban leaders were soon on their way to Houston, Texas, to be entertained by executives of the oil company, Unocal. With secret U.S. government approval, the company offered them a generous cut of the profits of the oil and gas pumped through a pipeline that the Americans wanted to build from Soviet central Asia through Afghanistan.”

    After this deal fell through, the Taliban became an official enemy and remain so to this day. The fact the former CIA asset Osama bin Laden was in-country was an extra added bonus for the propaganda campaign launched by the Pentagon to demonize the former partners.

    Pilger also notes that the Clinton administration had secretly backed the Taliban, even giving them high-level briefings at the CIA. Moreover, according to Pilger, there “is compelling evidence that Bush decided to attack the Taliban not as a result of 9-11, but two months earlier, in July of 2001. This is virtually unknown in the United States-publicly.”

    In fact, the corporate media reported on the plan to invade Afghanistan, although it was spun as a reaction to al-Qaeda. “President Bush was expected to sign detailed plans for a worldwide war against al-Qaida two days before Sept. 11 but did not have the chance before the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, U.S. and foreign sources told NBC News,” MSNBC reported on May 16, 2002.

    According to former Pakistani diplomat Niaz Naik, the U.S. had plans to invade Afghanistan in mid-July, nearly two months before September 11, 2001. “Mr Naik said US officials told him of the plan at a UN-sponsored international contact group on Afghanistan which took place in Berlin,” the BBC reported on September 18, 2001. Killing or capturing Bin Laden was held out as the excuse.

    As should be expected, all of this was left out of the Los Angeles Times article. Pakistan is the latest target and any hint that it had cooperated with the CIA in funding and supporting the Taliban must be relegated to the memory hole.

    It would be interesting, however, too see the redacted sections of McChrystal’s document.

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    67 Responses to “Pakistan and the Taliban: What Gen. McChrystal Didn’t Tell You”

    1. JJ Says:

      Earth and it’s inhabitants need more, not less, CO2

      More CO2 means:

      * More Plant Growth
      * Plants need less water
      * More food per acre
      * More robust habitats and ecosystems

      http://www.plantsneedco2.org

      Jakk Reply:

      Maybe they want to reduce the CO2 in order to kill crops and plants to help kill us off?
      I’m not up on the environmental stuff.

      Vote Third Party Reply:

      The Taliban are CIA funded which is why 9/11 was an inside job! WAKE UP!

      http://www.Vote3rdPartyNow.org/9-11.html

      kkl Reply:

      White devils are murderers and torturers!!!

      tood Reply:

      yeah! and those green devils with purple dots are just as bad!!!

      rick Reply:

      How about the tribal folks who sold their own people as slaves to the Portuguese.

      malcolm x in the middle Reply:

      muslim devils RAPE PIGS!!, and like it!

      JJ Reply:

      Military: The Hidden General Exposed
      Stan McChrystal runs ‘black ops.’ Don’t pass it on.
      newsweek
      June 26, 2006 issue

      - -..McChrystal has checked all the right career boxes, serving as an unflappable military briefer during the Iraq invasion, and doing fellowships at Harvard and at the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS in New York (where he would run to work from Brooklyn, about six miles away)..- -
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13.....ymode/1098

      GIVE ME LIBERTY OR... Reply:

      GO EXTERMINATE THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL…

      THE ROTTENCHILDS AND ROCKET.F.ERS & WARDOGS AND BIACHES…..

      JJ Reply:

      Hit the nail on the head

      another apostle Reply:

      Killing to preserve the Old Order will not bring about a New Order.

      williamwallace Reply:

      Co2 is ok to me just like o2 and h2o but Long chain man made chemicals are whats really killing people in this world but this is all keept quiet because how else is the rich going to kill the poor do you think for one minute that a town like ALPINE NJ is going to have a chemical factory that dumps toxins in the air water and earth? No I dont think so that is for the idiots who live in paterson and Newark NJ.

      Red Dawn 09 Reply:

      From what I hear congress has not even declared war on any country and yet here we are knee deep in wars. Click my name for more solid information. Moves,video’s,blog’s,text and for when you cant cram your brain any more games. Updated daily and newly awakened patriots welcome. New video of the week section. Vote now!

      Delia Lopez Reply:

      The Taliban eradicated the opium poppies. After we invaded the poppies increased by 5000% the first year. The CIA funds its efforts by drug smuggling always has for 100 years Iran Contra ring any bells? My daughter made a movie ‘No Choice’ it premiered in Hollywood and the movie was purchased by Time Warner only to vanish. The USA needs to follow the constitution and mind the business of the USA secure our borders and cut back on all spending.

      Pandoras out... Reply:

      Research just exactly what the historical origins are of the Skull and Bones ….
      It’ll ALL make sense when you find out the truth behind the opium trade.
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      el nino Reply:

      I´d not be too sure about that.
      It sounds logicaly, but it sounds logicaly that CO2 is a greenhouse gas as well.
      But things are not as easy like that.

      I´d personally say CO2 is not our problem, rather it´s nuclear power,
      everything to do with radioactivity and electtrosmog.
      It damages the energetic field of our athmosphere and helps desert to spread.

    2. you think that god is not real Says:

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      we need to wake the FUCK UP

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      John Brown Reply:

      The U.S. has absolutely no right to conduct military operations in the Middle East or elsewhere. In fact, since every bit of land occupied by the U.S. was stolen from indigenous peoples through genocide which continues today in the Middle East, the U.S. government is an illegitimate, genocidal terrorist organization with no right to rule over anyone. The U.S. is in violation of international laws, the Geneva Conventions, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and the Indian treaties. U.S. law actually protects war criminals. U.S. law violates international law. Anyone who carries a gun and works for the government, enforcing U.S. laws and policies, is basically a terrorist complicit in genocide– that goes for U.S. troops, cops, and other armed government agents. It’s time to pull the plug on Uncle Sam– people everywhere have a right, and a responsibility, to resist this murderous capitalist-imperialist death machine. Time to rise up! Check out http://www.antiimperialism.wordpress.com

      sadam Reply:

      Oh yes, we forgot that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that George Bush has to be one of the dumbest leaders in the history of the world or that Obama is one of the biggest liars of the 21st century, now tell us something that we don’t already know like the world’s problems can all be traced to the Vatican, the jesuits and to disinformation agents like Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen, Jessie Ventura and Ron Paul, bet you haven’t heard that before :)

      Andrew Jackson Reply:

      JohnBrown – i am quite amazed the people of the middle east haven’t surrounded the US forces and crushed them by now. people in america don’t like 1 or 2 deaths per day, just imagine if our entire middle eastern army got wiped out!

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      ron paul Reply:

      Thank you.
      There was no gov. conspiracy in 9/11. Thank you, thank you very much.

      GIVE ME LIBERTY OR... Reply:

      WHY USE STUPID SLOGANS………….I WONDER IF IT WAS THE OPOSITION THAT ONE THAT CAME UP WITH THEM.
      “Give me liberty or give me death”….WTF… IT SHOULD SAY “GIVE ME LIBERTY OR FUCK OFF, RUN, GET THE FUCK OUT” you choose.
      “Adudit the FED” Should say “KILL THE FED” and their originators Rottenchilds.

      GIVE ME LIBERTY OR... Reply:

      HOW ABOUT “GIVE ME LIBERTY OR DIE”?

      john Reply:

      ron paul

      “Thank you.
      There was no gov. conspiracy in 9/11. Thank you, thank you very much.”

      - thank god for that i was putting 1+1 together and getting 2 and getting a little bit worried. Phew, so it was a few arab terrorists with boxcutters, it all makes absolute sense now.

      JJ Reply:

      I know that sucks Bad, he says it’s too controversial. Wawawawawawawboohooboohoo

      scrambledeggsinthebrain Reply:

      Boy, that devil is working overtime…does he ever take a break?

      ANNIE BADY DOO SAM TING! Reply:

      We need a president with with huge balls and i dont thing RON PAUL fits that description.
      He wants to make a change by voting and that my fellow slaves aint going to happen!

      NEED a REV0LUTI0N

      TAKE WHATS OURS BACK !!
      THIS WORLD NOT JUST THIS COUNTRY
      ALL THE CENTRAL BANKS NOT JUST THE BAILOUT MONEY!
      ALL OF US NOT JUST THE NORTHAMERICAN PEEPS!

      john Reply:

      Ron Paul for president!

      I can’t stress that enough. But he might not run and elections are corrupt, shame. The only president I’d take a bulllet for.

    3. earl the earl of earl Says:

      Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death
      Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775.

      No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

      Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

      I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free– if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!

      They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

      It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

      ophiuchus Reply:

      excellent…..The Kennedy speech!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnpujfanUM

    4. Sir Baby De Porky Says:

      Mui complicado !!!

    5. Unconquered Says:

      How the F**K can anyone in their right mind believe ANYTHING this McChrystal pus bag says? He lied about Pat Tillman, he’s a grand pooh-bah of black ops operations he’s the resident torture expert. Our government lied about WMDs and they’re lying about this. They lie about everything. These people will rot in hell.

      god@god.god Reply:

      Hell is the reason that christians allow tyrants to live way longer then they should. You need to bring hell to these people in this life or there will be no justice.

    6. James McDonough Says:

      What would be nice if the ISI feels threatened enough to come clean with what they know about 9-11. The Indians would be smart to worry as this eastward movement of USA forces show no sign of stopping at anyone’s borders.

      Skurzilla Reply:

      I think the Indians would invite US Forces to push through Pakistan. Take them out for that matter… I believe they already proved that the ISI was involved in the Mombai Attacks.

      shafii Reply:

      you must be new, it was proved in this site after various interviews with the various players that the mombia attacks were a black flag attack

    7. Ten Megaton Says:

      Pet project of the CIA. Are the Taliban bio-engineered creatures?

      Tard Salem Reply:

      let us rise up as one, before they make us short and stupid.

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      Skurzilla Reply:

      Wonderful. $5,000 dollars for a stab at the American tax payers $5 Trillion a year… what a disgrace.

    9. Enough already Says:

      I do believe that you are trying to crash the servers of this website. Why don’t you start your own church?

      oprah's bush Reply:

      That’s what’s so great about religion. You can invent your own version and just go with that.

      Ava Reply:

      Religion is like burger king. “Have it your way”

    10. dWaRf mApLe Says:

      http://911essentials.com says remember … “Read my lips … no new taxes.” “I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.” “I did not inhale form that narly kewl bong that Hillary had.” “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.” .. The USS Maine, Gulf of Tonken, Waco, Oklahoma City, 9/11 … and it goes on and on and on …

      No one believes anything anyone in this corrupt, putrid, vile, illegitimate government says or does and never will again.

    11. Eagle One Says:

      Nimmo writes;

      “It is difficult to believe this scenario for one obvious reason — Iran is Shi’a Muslim and Afghanistan predominately Sunni. The two factions have been religious and ideological enemies for centuries. ”
      ————————–
      When defending against non-Muslim invaders, these ideological differences are a moot point amongst Muslims. Islam is Islam and the invader is not. They will fight and kill each other, but they will band together regardless and fight outsiders that are non-Muslims.

    12. hand of doom Says:

      Greed, hate and hypocricy rule the world.

      kkl Reply:

      Wicked white people rule the world!!!

    13. ophiuchus Says:

      Sorry… off topic… but this is a good movie ” TOXIC SKY’s ”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

    14. kkl Says:

      White devils are the children of satan!!!!

    15. goodseed Says:

      I challenge you to print ten of these and give them to ten people that you know who are in denial about 911.

      http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf

    16. Listen People Says:

      Give me a break. Your vocab tells me that you are a white person. Do you think we are stupid? Why are you trying to make this a race issue? To take our minds away from the real issues? I thought that was the FBI’s job. This is what they do best.

    17. nope Says:

      That guy that posts under various names, “White devils etc” is a fed.

      Aren’t you little piggy?

      Oh, now I get investigated??

    18. riot Says:

      this site is fear mongering sometimes because some of this stuff is really pumped up too much , and even some of it i have found is bullshit !

      Skurzilla Reply:

      “Every reform movement has a lunatic fringe”…. Theodore Roosevelt.

    19. riot Says:

      AND MANY OF THE VIEWERS AND BLOGGERS OF THIS WEBSITE AND EVEN THE WEBHOST ARE LUNATICS ! THIS SITE CREATES DRAMA AND DRAMA THAT NO ONE CAN EXPLAIN YET WE STILL COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT BULLSHIT YET NOTHING EVER GETS DONE !

    20. PrivateSi Says:

      I WOULD HOPE Iran & Pakistan are conspiring against USUK, NATO & co. I also believe the more we intervene, the more hard-line the ‘oppostion’ will become. Even if hard-liners take or have control I believe GRASS-ROOTS REVOLUTION is INEVITABLE. I believe oppressed women will always become REVOLTING WOMEN! as long as The West is there to set an example of Women’s Rights. Whether Muslim women throw off their Burkas is inconsequential – I BELIEVE they will fight for their rights, I believe GENERATIONS will DEMAND proper education. Let these countries DEVELOP NATURALLY. Offer support and BUY THEIR LEGAL PRODUCE at fair rates – the farmer’s get F all for their opium crops anyhow…

    21. captain clearlight Says:

      Let’s hunt this guy down and see how he likes our justice for terrorists.

    22. captain clearlight Says:

      Nope I ain’t talking about the Bin Ladens that bailed out Georgie Arbusto in the oil biz. I Bin Laffen how thymade billions off 9/11, they were meeting with HW Bush the morning of 9/11 in Warshington at the Carlier Group Superbowl party to watch their airliner shit go down. We can find the Bushes and Bin Ladens any old day. OBL was CIA all the way and was treated bythe US on 9/10 in Pakistan. Maybe they put some pentothal in the dialysis and……we never seen him much since.
      When the US turned loose McCrystal in Irak he did so many bombings and assassinations that he became the hard core methhead meathead for the Pentagon to have, because he alone of all insecure commanders really WANTS to drink beer out of a butt crack in the Kabul Embassy. He lies, but they all do, even Obama, all the time, so that is not so unusual in itself. If he says he loves you, run.

    23. dr t Says:

      You think this is crazy… look at this site…

      http://www.mindalteringfreedom.com

    24. shafii Says:

      There are a few points I would like to correct.
      1. Only after the Taliban started its rise to power by removing the drug warlords did Pakistan’s ISI SERVICES GET ENVOLVED AS WITH THE CIA they wanted to back the winning horse and thus retain influence within the region.
      2. When it came to women’s education, there were two main problems
      • Cultural, where traditionally afghan society frowned on women’s education.
      • They did not have the resources to even have proper education for men and as such priority was given to men However, little known in the west is, that the Taliban did set up 2/ 3 small education facilities for women but did not have enough funds to do this on a large scale, as they were still engaged in a war with the northern alliance.
      3.The main reason why the deal with the oil companies fell through was that it was to give companies involved complete right of extraction of minerals and the % offered was less then 10 % and as such in the end it was stated that either you accept our offer and we will give you a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs and the rest is history

    25. shafii Says:

      If this was not a news web site i could veryt easily refute each of the points you mention from within the bible. “Deaf, dumb and blind they will not return to the straight path. QURAN

    26. Randy Says:

      This site is great at pointing fingers and calling people names but woefully lacking on offering any real solutions. I would also like to point out that most people believe what they want to believe and are incapable of reading between the lines and finding the real truth. I do not trust our leaders nor do I trust any muslim alive. The muslim religion is hell on earth and has no capacity to love, serve and worship our Creator. I will say this, they sure know how to blow themselves up, marry and impregnate pre teens, stone sinners and visit strip clubs all in the name of their god of hate allah! The truth shall set you free.

      shafii Reply:

      who do you think your creator is ?
      Listen up to 30 / 40 years ago people still and some continue to believe we worship the devil.
      Do you even now what allah means.
      The biggist problem with christians is that most have absolutly no idea of or regarding islam.
      So your ignorance is nothing new, if.
      However , those that have knowledge are referred in the quran as closest to muslims in the quran.
      Unlike the bible there are no contradictions and science cannot dispprove one verse and there are many challanges in the quran , which could dispprove islam in a second but no one and many have tried to dipprove those statements. However your ignorance show your knowledge.

    27. Randy Says:

      Dude! No need to go on with the preaching. I completely agree with your point of view but you will lose all the readers with your sermon. Keep it short and sweet. As for my opinion here it is… This site is great at pointing fingers and calling people names but woefully lacking on offering any real solutions. I would also like to point out that most people believe what they want to believe and are incapable of reading between the lines and finding the real truth. I do not trust our leaders nor do I trust any muslim alive. The muslim religion is hell on earth and has no capacity to love, serve and worship our Creator. I will say this, they sure know how to blow themselves up, marry and impregnate pre teens, stone sinners and visit strip clubs all in the name of their god of hate allah! The truth shall set you free.

    28. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      Can you say Blackmail & Extortion of the CinC?
      By the AIPAC Neocon’s General ~

      McChrystal
      remember
      Tillman?

    29. NWO Says:

      YouTube Video: Alex Jones pulls gun and threatens

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfOoT2UyjEE

      this is just ONE proof that Alex Jones is NO christian .. because GOD said: “You shall not kill.” – Period.

      and i dont think he pulled this gun to hunt some food to eat …

      – New Whitewash Order ( Alex Jones is whitewashing Ron Paul .. )