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Palin, Romney, GOP vs. the Bill of Rights
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John Seiler
September 4, 2008
I watched the GOP convention tonight and was not surprised, but still dismayed, at the attacks by the speakers on America liberties. Romney and Palin both attacked the rights of “terrorists” to constitutional protections.
Romney blabbed:
Is a Supreme Court liberal or conservative that awards Guantanamo terrorists with constitution rights?
Palin chirped of Obama:
Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America … he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights?
Both times, I noticed the crowd at Nuremberg — excuse me, Minneapolis — rabidly cheering these attacks on American liberties.
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What Palin and Romney did not note is that a “terrorist” is anyone the president says is a terrorist. Although this possibly was slightly reduced by a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision, anyone in the world, including American citizens, could be branded a “terrorist” and held, possibly indefinitely, in detention. Even Romney and Palin might be held that way, never to be heard from again.
And as H.L. Mencken pointed out, the test cases of liberty seldom involve the top people, but those at the margins, or even at the bottom. If everyone deserves the same rights, then everyone’s rights must be defended. And “everyone” includes even real terrorists.
It’s not surprising that, under Bush, first “terrorists,” real and imagined, had their rights abridged, then everybody else did, too. As Glenn Greenwald has reported on the scene from Minneapolis — here, and here, and here – even peaceful protesters’ houses have been raided before the convention even began, and reporters were arrested.
Palin: Nice lady, bad company
Palin gave a great speech. But her foreign policy and civil rights sections clearly were written by the anti-American Neocons who run McCain’s campaign, and who hate our liberties with a passion. She’s a nice lady who’s put in with a bad crowd, as Lew Rockwell pointed out.
Palin’s nickname is “the Barracuda.” But even a barracuda would be devoured by a gang of killer sharks — in this case, Bush, Cheney, McCain, Liberman, and the Neocons.
If America is about anything, it’s liberty protected by the Bill of Rights. Bush, Cheney, McCain and the others have spent the past 8 years assaulting the Bill of Rights as it never has been in our history.
Romney’s ambition
The oleagenous Romney also said:
John McCain hit the nail on the head: radical violent Islam is evil, and he will defeat it!
That’s rich coming from a Mormon. Like Islam, it has a history of polygyny (although Muslims can have only 4 wives), bans booze, and has some terrorism in its past. And a lot of Republicans consider Mormonism a cult (see comments section here).
I don’t have anything against Mormons myself, I’m just pointing out that, if Mormons were judged by Romney’s rhetoric, he might end up at Guantanamo just for that.
Most of his speech was a preparation for a presidential run in 2012 by continually saying conservatism is better than the liberalism of Obama. But just 2 years ago he was a liberal himself.
What a night
Republicans at the convention must be feeling so giddy tonight they could float up to the moon.
But if you believe in America’s principles and tradition of liberty, it was a night to despair.
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September 4th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
The Grand Old Party is a senile, doddering old fool with nary a functioning brain cell remaining.
Just like McCain.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
I agree with #1, and the Evangelical Christians that think GOP stands for God’s Own Party, better get their heads out of their asses.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I am dead
September 4th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I feel slightly offended about the Mormon comments, and let me remind you all, that we are not a cult!
September 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I watched the Republican convention on C-SPAN last night. It was probably the most frightening thing I have ever seen. I thought to myself this is like an Adolph Hitler rally in Nazi Germany. I am almost afraid to watch the McCain speech tonight. I am not a fan of Obama, he is owned by the same people as McCain, but I can really see the end is near if these evangelical bastards get in.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
remember that song, most of us were taught as children—
‘—-onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus, leading on before—-’
I was amazed too at how many times the people chanted “USA, USA”
I will write in Ron Paul.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
It’s time we rally our support behind our next president John McCain. Who will protect our FREEDOM and hurt down the Terrorists who attack us on September 11, 2001.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Anna your fucking stupid. John McCain is a Bush clone basically. Bush has done anything but defend our freedoms. Obama is almost as bad as McCain. The only real hope is writing in Ron Paul but that isn’t gonna happen because the Media has done everything in their power to make damn sure Ron Paul doens’t win. I still will show people Ron Paul. To bad I’m not old enough or I would write him in.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Do not get offended tissue box. It is just that at times we are given a bad name through such actions and comments like Romney and Oren Hatch and others that aren’t the best examples. When people come to realize that us Mormons are friends of liberty as embedded in the teachings of the church and told in prophecy that the elders of Israel will have to stand up and save the constitution as it hangs by a thread then we will all stand together as patriots and Christians fighting for our rights. Do not take offense, these men understand true freedom and are on our side.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
let’s get something straight. Real, informed, Christians are going to be standing as the last line of defense against these New World Orderites. To those that aren’t awakened to the truth (yet) myself and others will be standing for what is good and right.
Adolf hitler gave a lot of lip service about “faith and God”. He pretended to believe in God, the problem was, that he was a demon possessed madman bent on destroying and enslaving people, not saving them. He was a wolf dressed as a sheep, pretending to be good, when he was evil incarnate. Don’t you think that those claiming to usher in the new world order claim to be christian in order to pass blame on God’s people when push comes to shove? When people start getting rounded up to either take the mark or be killed, the fakers will be laughing at the venom that will be directed at their enemies..the true Christians.
It is frustrating to see so many Christians asleep, and believing the lies, but it’s our job to wake them up, not to blame them for what some satan worshipping fools are doing. In WW2, the nazis set up jewish councils that were order to help round up their fellow jews, and send them to their deaths. satan has a sick sense of humour. he wanted them to be complicit in their own humiliation and destruction. Don’t blame this on true evangelicals who care enough about you to tell you about the saving gospel of Jesus. Unfortunately, they are being used as patsy’s. When fema came to new Orleans, they used pastors to calm and direct the scared public..seem familiar? The same thing is going to happen all over again, this time christian gentiles are going to be the hunted.
Personally, I don’t see how the comments about evangelical Christians makes any sense. Yeah, it’s frustrating that many are asleep, but Christians that know their bible and their God, are throwing down the gauntlet are beginning to sound the alarm. You should be greatful that these Christians that care enough to stick out their neck for ungrateful strangers..Save your anger, energy, and strength for the fight that lies ahead..against satan worshipping thugs who will love nothing more than to usher you into a Christless eternity all while you were busy being angry at the only people willing to cross the street to tell you the truth..God bless
September 4th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
McCain and Palin or Obama and Bidden either way they are gonna be looking to extend all these new powers Adolf er,Bush has came up with.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Anna, will McCain finally hunt down the attackers of 911? At his age maybe he could catch them in the white house before they leave to Dubia. Maybe you could sign up to help since you are so sure that this GOP puppet is better than the last. Don’t worry Anna if you do go help there will still be time for your programming updates brought to you by FOX news.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I would not worry about this. the american people will not be putting these shrills in office. I still have some faith…around here somewhere, just let me look. damn, its in here I think? no? ahh crap!
September 4th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I cannot say it better than #1 did. Senile is being tame.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Ron Paul and the message, hold whoever gets “elected” to what they are supposed to do, whatever the American people want!!!
If not, well, I still can’t believe Bush is still alive, except for the fact that warriors love warmongers, and peaceful people love Ron Paul.
All those people at both the conventions looked like puppets, they have no idea…
September 4th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I believe if we ALL do not vote for the Third party, then the BILL of RIGHTS and the CONSTITUTION is a gonner and Hello 3rd world country and NO more Freedoms. I’m not sure if Ron Paul is still in the race, but if e is not, then we have 2 good canadates to take his place. They are: RALPH NADER (Independent Party) and a wonderful Ladie by the name of : Cynthia Mckinney (Green Party). and one of the awsome parts is she is an african american women…How great is that.
We must take a STAND NOW, or we wont be able to take a stand EVER AGAIN…….NO MORE FREEDOM…….. If you DONT want anymore freedom, By all means, vote Republican or Democrat. BUT if you DO, then WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Ron Paul supporters in this thread are all Zombies who would rather vote for creepy buffoon and a liar. Only Party who will protect your Liberty & Freedom is Republican Party
September 4th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
If I have to hear Romney say the word Jihad one more time. He’s like the arab guy in “Team America World Police” “dirka, dirka, mohammed jihad” He doesn’t have a freakin’ CLUE! And the Repuglicans are mad that he didn’t get it! I mean how DUMB are the two parties. People you are smarter than these folks, file, RUN, and you’ll WIN!!! These turkeys are so disconnected, I mean they don’t have a CLUE! Hey John, what is a Shia, and what is a Sunni, and WHO is al-Quaeda??? (Crickets) I’m waiting John, answer the question!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Using the logic of the neocons, why does any accused criminal deserve due process of law for that matter? All the government has to do, then, is make the accusation. The accusation is then tantamount to guilt, without getting a day in court to prove innocence. This goes past the contorted “guilty until proven innocent” and all the way to “guilty with no chance to prove innocence.”
September 4th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Anna Ron Paul is a Republican and you should go troll other sites, cuz no one cares.o cheer on your candiadte and leave us alone. We are peaceful and you are a bully.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Anna, Ron Paul is a Republican and you should go troll other sites, cuz no one cares.So cheer on your candidate and leave us alone. We are peaceful and you are a bully.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Election/No Election…No matter…All the same crap over and over and over…
Same people/same ideals…different face…
Same lies…different words…
Vote/don’t vote, it will NOT change anything…
Don’tcha get it ?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Anna,
I wonder what your goat of a mother thought when she realized at childbirth that she had squirted out such an ignorant fucktard. You’re the “Zombie.” I wouldn’t be suprised if your mother had married one either. By the way I protect my freedom with my assult rifle. I don’t need the government’s protection like you do because you are a wimpy, pussy, slave.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Wake up America. As I examine the Words of Mc Cain with His lies and the others, it saddens my heart. To love this Nation is to love Satan and His Evil works. No We are not all god’s children. that is a lie. He stated He was not Anointed to save America. He was set in place by Lucifer. You can’t serve 2 Masters. You will either hold to the one and hate the other. He should examine himself and warn the people of the danger they are in, for when this false peace is set in place and Satan seats His son in TYRE, and shuts down the banks where no one can buy or sell, then the destruction will come upon them. He stated that He cannot tolerate aggression, yet He voted to attack Iraq and kill many people. also to see our young men die in vein. I know I am 80 yrs. old and almost died in that Hell hole Korea. He stated that this is the Greatest Nation on Earth, for what? Look at Riot Police with their Satanic power, look at our prisons with men full of Tattoo’s that is against God’s word. Jer.6:19 then this Nation allows the Harry Potter Satanic works to destroy our young people. This School System that rejects God’s word being studied So the young could have the Knowledge of god and walk correctly. Yes to say God bless America is Blaspheme to God. Wake up America you can’t serve Two Masters.This Nation is being brought down so the Son of Perdition can be seated in TYRE. A Servant of the God of Israel.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Do you want a Free book on how the Federal Reserve works?
You might want to go here:
http://www.money-changers.com/
Before it is gone!!! You didn’t hear this from me.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:58 am
I’m not convinced anything is going to derail or slow this charging locomotive going 80 mph. The
tracks end at the edge of the Grand Canyon as The Star Spangled Banner blares in the engine
compartment. “The doom and gloom real damn soon Express” is the name of the choo choo train.
The passengers on the doomed train are Americans who are enjoying the ride, all the while waving
their little flags (made in China) as they sing along with mitch. God help us.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:02 am
Ask these politicians about free trade deals , job outsourcing and tariffs and they run for the hills evading the question, You will never see these bought off sell outs actally trying to bring jobs and prosperity back to the totally screwed and brainwashed middle class
September 5th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Best way to control people is rob them of their prosperity turn them into wage slaves to where they have to work 3 jobs and have no time to do anything but to be bled and fed on.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:06 am
This “Anna” dose not seem to understand she has no influnece, what so ever on this site. Unless it is some shmoe getting us all fired up over sticks and stones. If not she is a zionist at heart and cares nothing about us and this forumn of individuals.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:51 am
BEAT the international bankers at their own game……….become financially and debt free.
http://www.becomericher.info
September 5th, 2008 at 2:24 am
Words are great, but what we really need is some serious ACTION! ACTION! ACTION! We have been deceived for far too long…since at least 1913 when the evil illegal Federal Reserve bank was created…on up to the inside job of 911…and we really should consider Isreal’s role regarding numerous false flag operations. Alex needs to seriously address the zionist issues related to the creation of monopoly money via zionist jews and their roles related to wars they instigate from behind the scenes via deception. Go for it Alex Jones, make that connection! Those zionists have had their way at the expense of others for far too long…many have been injured by deceitful zionist transgressions! We need ACTION that includes educating the sleeping masses. I, too, was once asleep and believed the lies of 911 via popular media, but I woke up! I am a veteran of the United States Marines, and I firmly believe in our US Constitution–let’s not continue ignoring what is happening right before us cuz innocent lives are at stake! Take ACTION…wake your family, friends, and even strangers on the street to the truth…we need a critical mass, and the good news is: it is happening!
September 5th, 2008 at 6:51 am
On Thursday McCain saw Palin then turned to Liberman and said I thought she was the BLOND WE HAD TALKED TO or was that the bitch from Kansas ? To late now we are stuck with this one /Liberman ! What a shame/this whole fucking election is a dam big JOKE
September 5th, 2008 at 7:30 am
One thing i hate about about republicans any time someone brings up the truth all they can do is scream USA USA USA USA USA USA
September 5th, 2008 at 7:46 am
ANNA’S PUSSY STINKS AND REEKS LIKE SHIT
ONE SMELL BETWEEN THOSE FAT HAIRY LEGS WILL MAKE YOU WANT TO EAT OSAMA’S ASSHOLE
September 5th, 2008 at 9:14 am
We all must remember that prophecy of gloom and doom is NOT set in stone; we, as sovereign beings descended from God, who gave us the gift of free will, Can change things we don’t want to happen, via mass prayers and focussed intention…we Can change the timeline of events; also don’t forget that “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing…”Edmund Burke.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:19 am
They dicked him plenty of times all I know and I’m curious if Huckabee just did what Ron Paul mentioned because their talk sounds almost similar but to see him with all the John Mccain will do this and that I said hmm
September 5th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Mc-shame just picked Palin to make himself look good because he knows he isn’t gonna win the election. It’s just a PR move for when he’s sent packing with his tail between his legs, fag…
September 5th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Poor anna, get a clue, both parties are just a different wing on the same bird. both parties work for the Illumanati, and their goal is one world government with rights for the elite, and to keep the rest of us in slavery.
We have no moore civil rights and that ended after the 911 incident, you kow that false flag operation that was acctually done by factions of both parties, but expecially the Republican party.
Wake up child.
September 5th, 2008 at 10:29 am
I love ANNA You all bore me to DEATH!! DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND SET YOUR SELVES ON FIRE YOU STUPIOD BITCHS. ANNA YOU ARE THE BEST
September 5th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Our rights are GOD given. They do not come from the constitution. The Constitution was made to protect these rights, and they extend to even terrorists and criminals. Who does Romney think he is? The Mormon leadership holds the constitution to the highest regard because they know their strange religion never had a chance without the constitution protecting it. In fact the leaders of the Mormon Church have even said the constitution was inspired by God. If it was inspired by God to go against it would be going against God’s will, and would be a sin. This kind of action from Romney proves that he and his friends are untrustworthy, pieces of shit, CFR tools!!!!!.
September 5th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Everyone shut up now you go home you to STUPID you make no sence go buybuy FUCKTARDS
September 5th, 2008 at 11:11 am
I believe Romney really believes what he is saying, but he in NOT the Mormon Church. He is an individual with his own, yet naive perspective. And the writer of this article should do a little more unbiased research. The Mormons have never acted in the offensive. Their history clearly shows they acted in defense every time They were persecuted by this government incessantly.Try to report the facts.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
foools – the onlything foolish is your attempt at spelling and your ability to fuck.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
THUG – is unequivicolly a love struck bitch the only thing thug about you is the fact you BEAT you meat
September 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Hey John Seiler
What then hell is the matter with you? You forgot personal recog because the TERRORIST have never been arrested before, welfare, food stamps and a medical card while they await a court date and then the fees for a private lawyer. Housing, they have to have sect. 8 housing, social security and because they are from another country and don’t speak our language, a translator/service guide to help them through the civil system. Then we have to talk about bilingual school ( It’s going to be years before they get to the supreme court so we might as well foot that bill to). Then contact the small buisness administration while we are in contact with the firt time home buyer program. What about a federal grant for the house and a new BMW luxury car. What about 24 hr. police protection because of the sensitive nature of the cases.
Before you know it they’ll have almost as many backdoors to our country/economy as other felons, they’ll be almost on the same level as an illegal mexican. Then we can finally talk about their right to hold certain elected offices.
Hey John GO POOP ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
thug and fool is a good name for you two morons lean how to spell.
Alex Jones your right on the money every time.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Lets get everything straight, and not be fooled by the appearance of this “nice lady” Palin. They are all puppets and I don’t think there is any way, if she was really as good as everyone is thinking, McCain would have had her be VP. Remember logic. Don’t be so quick to believe what they show you.
Just because Romney is a certain way does not mean that he speaks for his church as a whole. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not a cult. You can find out where a church is in your area http://maps.lds.org/ and go straight to the sorce, and do your own research. There is a lot of persecution, and disinfo twards this church much like this truth movement gets. Or worse. And I don’t know Romney, but if he is involved in some sort of cult I can assure you it’s not the church. Romney’s actions and words do not mean that he speaks for the church as a whole. It goes against everything we believe in. I will admitt that a lot of the members here in the United States are still very much asleep to what their own leaders of the church teach, but remember that we are all human and were raised under the time of dumbing down of this country all together. Which is why all of us have got to come together as one no matter what religon, or differences we have and recognize whats at our door, and try to wake up and everyone to our awful situations!
Peace
September 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
OOOOO A BUNTCH OF BOOK SMART BITCHEZ #48 MYBE YOU SHOULD LEAN HOW TO SPELL ASS WIPE #45/46 YOU ARE A FINE EXAMPLE OF HUMAN SHIT DONT LAY YOUR IN APS OFF ON ME OR OTHERS. YOU MAY SUFFER FROM E.D. OR ALOT OF IN BREEDING YOU TRASH CUT. BRING ON THE NWO AND AN END TO DUMB ASS’S LIKE YOU AND ALEX YOUR ALL FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD AND SHOULD BE DELT WITH IDIOTS IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 911 Y2K WHAT WILL YOU ALL TALK ABOUT NEXT FOOOOOOOOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I can’t wait to haul your dumbass to one of the many FEMA CAMPS and watch you shutter as you await the END to draw near. A PROUD PERSON OF THE US . YOU PEOPLE ARE ROACHES YOU’LL CHECK IN BUT YOU WON’T CHECK OUT THANK GOD
September 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Anna… This Zombie is going to have to eat your brain, because apparently you aren’t using it!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
trash cut? not familiar with the term, to address the idiots like “you and alex” im a successful proprietor of my own business and all you have amounted to is a trash talking excuse for an activist go home, if you have one to you laughable excuse of an existance. i dont give out charity or advise but in your case you need both so i will make an acception you dirt poor fuck.
PS inbreeding is one word, nice to see you have improved on your spelling ability.
bitch
September 5th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
THUG he cant wait for the end, thank god. what “god” looks on you with favor you inarticulate fuck? A PROUD PERSON OF THE US. . if that is all you have to be proud of is the US your life is meaningless and void of accomplishments and success…
September 5th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
“Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America” – Al Qaeda terrorists can be satisfied with neocons because neocons inflict catastrophic harm on America quite well
September 5th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I hate doing this, because this arguement, until we’ve sorted out whats going on right now Thats absoloute crap. Look at the head of this fucking page, it’s talking about To say that the majority of people who are ‘throwing down the Gauntlet’ to those who are the oppressors are “christians who beleive in the truth” is just another way of propegating beleif in unsubstantiated dieties.
Wanting to overthrow this corrupt government has nothing to do with religion, the majority are not doing it in the name of religion and like me, it is the inherant corruption and latent hipocrisy of ALL RELIGION, christian, muslim, hindu, bhuddism or fuckin jedi If that floats your boat, that woke them up to it in the first place. its fine if you want to use that a justification but to tar the entire movement with that statement is a kick to the balls of the lot of us. I’m fighting against govt. and religion, they’re both corrupt poulation control methods
“Personally, I don’t see how the comments about evangelical Christians makes any sense. Yeah, it’s frustrating that many are asleep, but Christians that know their bible and their God, are throwing down the gauntlet are beginning to sound the alarm. You should be greatful that these Christians that care enough to stick out their neck for ungrateful strangers”
If your an evangelical christian then it’s your beleif that you’re beleifs are better than other peoples, which is why its evangelist, because your supposed to show people the light. Jesus described himself as the morning star, the light and the way, and this is exactly the way Satan saw himself too. There are no god like beings with superpowers who can walk on water coming to save us, thats just an excuse to not do it your fucking self. If your gonna put all you energy into overthrowing a corrupt, false diety worshipping cult only to rely on a different corrupt, false diety worshipping cult in its place then what the fuck is the point of it? We must do away with any ideology that is not founded on absolute FACT, leaving in plase the christian system would be like saying “well we’ve crushed the new world order and it’s satanic beleifs, but we still have the basic corruptable beleif system in place so we’ll have to do it again in a couple of hundred years.” Think about it.
“When fema came to new Orleans, they used pastors to calm and direct the scared public..seem familiar?”
Thats because a pastor is the base level of corruption. No matter what people beleive about something, their trust in a pastor is generally trancendent and can be used to ‘heard sheep’ Literally. even atheists will generally follow a pastor, beleiveing that out of anyone, in a crisis, a pastor would try to help and would have the people needs at heart. And that is literally how all of this started back in Rome, and how it is continually propegated throughout our society.
You will never hear about my beleifs, because it’s personal, none of your business, and not my place to push on you. but if you come along and try to tell me that the son of god existed and died for our sins and I should beleive that, you will be treated as any other good for nothing two bit shitty salesman.
September 5th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Here is an idea I had, and that I submit to you (ex. Alex Jones Team), about how you could convince a big number of people, to vote better this time, hoping that it is not too late for that…
video comparison candidates:
to put each one coast at coast, with leut respective program on precise subjects and to explain…
examples:
Everyday life: health, education, work, taxes and taxes, to purchase power, freedoms, duties, safety, racism, respect beliefs,…
Foreign policy: trade, diplomacy, war, Third World assistance…
Environmental policy, etc etc
Scenario of this video:
With each precise topic, presented by images, it acts, to show the projects of each candidate, by taking again short extracts of comments and political speeches or votes with the senate, of each candidate… thus showing the indisputable answer of each candidate to a precise question.
One could then, to moreover add, the curriculum vitae, source of income and history of each candidate, to show, from a point of view more general this time, the supports, beliefs and ideology of each one.
This may be, like the Old Bush said: “this is a great idea…”
September 5th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Hey No 53, Nice to know that someone who claims to be as intellegent, and successful as you, is using that intellegence to call someone retarded ass words like ” bitch”, You just showed your intellegence, and I bet you don’t have over an I.Q. over 80. So, Bitch, whats your buisness ? Drug Dealer ? ..what a fucking retard you are.
September 5th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I must say, this is one of the worst strings of comments every on this site.
Everyone take a deep breath.
There hate is gettin”to ya. Relax. Pet the dog. Tell your sweetheart you love ‘em.
Jez, I cant believe this Republican crew of (blanks) could get everyone so riled up.
Watch Ron Paul on Colbert. He’s smiling. Everything is goin’ be ok.
We’re goin’ win..someday.
September 5th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
The Mormon church, LDS, is not a Chritian denomination. I grew up in that Church and so did my wife. I was born in Salt Lake City, got baptized at 8. (Why did they baptize me, I had no faith, I just did what they told me to do.) I did my little things in Sacrament meeting like say “I belive Joseph Smith is a Prophet and God and the LDS Church is the only true church on the earth today.” (If you are the only “true church” then what does that make all the other Christian churches?) Now tell me, how does a 6 year old know to say that? Answer: he doesn’t. He just repeats what he’s been programmed to say, so his parents, peers, and friends will give him the nod of approval. I have nothing personal against you Mormons. You are some of the nicest people on the earth. But your theology is off, and I, nor you, will never be a God of your own planet one day. And the Heavenly Father you pray to today was not a man like you and me in some past life. You use the same terminology but your words have different meaning.
I’m sure I’ll take some heat for being off topic and religious, but I had to set the record straight. Mormons are a totally different religion, as different as Islam, Judiasm, and Christianity are from each other.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I would be very carefull about voting for someone who has “Cain” in his name,
Cain: the first murderer.
The symbolic is just too scary, can you imagine givine the Atomic bomb power to a guy named Cain? How more in your face can it be?
September 6th, 2008 at 3:00 am
Why must you direct comments about Romney’s evils against all of his faith? I agree, he is an evil man… but does that mean you should insult us COMMITED LDS Patriots? Besides that, your comments are, as is common, entirely mislead and misleading. (For more info, please visit link above.)
Please refrain from a message that devides us, and lets all focus on defeating the REAL EVIL here… our lives and those of our loved ones depend on it.
September 6th, 2008 at 9:23 am
As the human specie population is expanding the resources are getting scarce as a result wars are fought for land that provides those resources.
September 6th, 2008 at 10:53 am
What really amazes me is how the corporate media validates this hoax they’re passing off as an election, and the population buys into it!
Reports show the McSatin/Palin campaign imploding with every decision and move it makes while the media propaganda make the Obama/BinBiden Ticket appear to be our best choice.
It seems we are being masterfully herded into the Obama/BinBiden pen.
Hmmm, now what whadoIdo?
September 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
HELLO FRIENDS! this is from the following website — http://www.washingtonindepende.....-candidate — which i got a link to from andrew sullivan’s blog… i have not checked its veracity, (ie is Anne Kilkenny who she says she is) but it sounds simple enough to do with the information at the very end about the author. regardless, it’s obviously one person’s opinion — but a very interesting one at that. refreshing to have a first-hand/alaskan opinion rather some professional pundit… small-town politics seems so very INTERESTING, no? : ) “ABOUT SARAH PALIN I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city. She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like=2 0the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because she is a “babe”. It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months. She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby. She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym. She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit. Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans. Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters. She’s smart. Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents. During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been20 pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign. Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents. The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the=2 0profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing. While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once. These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city. As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state. In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs. She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them. While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day. Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below). As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support. She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help.20The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness. Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her. When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined). As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork=2 0from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to. As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”. She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative. Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her. As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum. Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species. McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President. There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she. However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it. CLAIM VS FACT •”Hockey mom”: true for a few years •”PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since •”NRA supporter”: absolutely true •social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional). •pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it. •”Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation E2″Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000. •political maverick: not at all •gutsy: absolutely! •open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions. •has a developed philosophy of public policy: no •”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR. •fiscal conservative: not by my definition! •pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards. •pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents •pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history. •pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union. WHY AM I WRITING THIS? First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska) , you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations. Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings. Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life. Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship. Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable. CAVEATS I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers. You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The day Palin=E 2s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90’s.
September 6th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
The GOP ..Republican National Committee campaign strategy is from the Ronald Reagan and Margret thatcher International Democrat Institute.
All members of the Republican party belong to the IDU. The IDU are called compationet conservatives, they are completly internationalist.
The Republican IDU principles are based on the ” Universal Declaration of Human Rights”.In Article 29 sec. 3. it states; “These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.”
The IDU also supports a parlimentary oppsition to goverment. Thegola of both epublicans and Democrats have , since 1983, to create a free market ,freetrade, an (Economic Democracy) globally under the UN and GATT.
September 21st, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Oh, great democrat party, savior of women! Are you not aware that “chirped” when used to deride a human’s speech is considered an offensive gender-specific term, with a tone almost as bad as that of a would-be president who was too afraid to run alongside Hilary, but can croon into a microphone about what he thinks women should feel and be.