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Paul Joseph Watson Threatened Over AIDS Article
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
April 17, 2008
For the crime of writing a politically incorrect article on homosexuals, AIDS, and blood donations — see “Offensive” Gay Blood Donation Ban Could Be Overturned Despite Aids Risk — Prison Planet editor and writer Paul Joseph Watson is coming under fire in his native England.
As Alex Jones explained on his radio show today, Watson faces potential arrest and prosecution for reporting the news that homosexual activists “are trying to get a ban overturned on accepting blood donations from gay and bisexual men in the UK because it is ‘offensive,’ despite the fact that such a change would increase the risk of HIV infection by 50%, in the latest example of political correctness lunacy that is endangering society,” as Watson wrote on April 15.
“I am a straight man, fighting the New World Order and agree with most I read on this site,” an Infowars reader complained in an email. “But Paul Watson’s article on Gay blood Transfusions is bordering on a speech by Adolph Hitler. I am taking a copy of this article and may even hand it over to the British Police. There is still a legitimate reason to use the police, and this is it. He should be thrown out of the movement for that article alone. Watson is at risk of making us look those those we fight. I do not agree with all these hate laws when it comes to faith or such like. But this is just a blatant attack on these people designed to cause hate. I have worked with many gay people regarding 9/1. My Infowars Network Profile photos are of us being supported by Gay Pride Rally 2007 letting us set up a stool.”
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Back in October, 2007, so called “Justice Secretary” Jack Straw in Britain announced it would be “a crime to incite hatred because of a person’s sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation,” in other words, simply reporting the news and pointing out “that overturning the ban would see HIV and AIDS skyrocket” is a crime against the British state.
Richard Ford and Ruth Gledhill, writing for the Times Online, continue:
Under the proposal it would be considered a crime to incite hatred against homosexual, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered and heterosexual people. Mr Straw said: “It is a measure of how far we have come as a society in the past ten years that we are now appalled by hatred and invective directed at people on the basis of their sexuality. It is time for the law to recognize this.”
Prosecutions will be brought only with the agreement of the Attorney-General. The new crime will cover people using threatening words or written material, or recording visual images or sounds that incite hatred because of sexual orientation.
Paul Joseph Watson did not threaten a single homosexual with “hatred,” but instead simply pointed out the lunacy of allowing the blood supply to be contaminated by AIDS, obviously a crime against the state, if we are to take Mr. Straw at his word and extrapolate, and not all that much. But then, in Britain and soon enough the United States, the “hatred” litmus test will be used to harass, arrest, and prosecute those who confront the political orthodoxy, as Watson does consistently.
Back in 2002, Robin Page, a corporate media columnist, was “arrested on suspicion of stirring up racial hatred after making a speech at a pro-hunting rally,” according to the Telegraph. Page “told his audience [at a country fair at Frampton-upon-Severn, Glos] that Londoners had the right to run their own events, such as the Brixton carnival and gay pride marches, which celebrated black and gay culture. Why therefore, he asked, should country people not have the right to do what they liked in the countryside.”
It did not seem to matter that the Prince of Wales had expressed a likewise opinion when he agreed “with a farmer from Cumbria who claimed that the farming community enjoyed less protection from discrimination than black or gay people,” according to Neil Tweedie of the Telegraph.
Watson and Page did not express hatred, they simply voiced opinions that run counter to the prevailing political orthodoxy, including special rights for homosexuals and other groups. Increasingly, expressing such opinions are considered a crime.
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April 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
The article is “offensive” because it lacks ANY honest research into the mythical HIV-AIDS connection. HIV DOES NOT cause AIDS. The fear of HIV (which has never been isolated in a lab) DOES cause morons to perpetuate a doctrine of hate prescribed by the NWO media masters.
In other words Paul Joseph Watson is a moron who is perpetuating a LIE!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:39 am
So much for freedom of speech and open debate.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Sally Kern got a big backlash by the homos for talking about the homos in school pushing the agenda. Alex might get a backlash for talking about it here in America. If this happens, I hope this truth movement will attract Christians by the bus load.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am
If Watson goes to prison over his article then Obama needs to go to prison for his recent comments about small town folks.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Why aren’t they able to screen EACH blood sample (whether it came from a straight or gay person) for HIV/AIDS?
Straight people can contract it as well. And if the blood that a gay person donated ended up saving your life, Im pretty sure even the most homophobe would be just the littlest bit thankful.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Now, now. I’m sure Mr. Watson is doing his best not to perpetuate lies.
On the whole no-HIV thang – I’ve seen argument on both sides. I highly recommend a book called ‘The White Plague’ (forget the author, some doctor lady) – the section on the history of and epidemiology of AIDS is highly interesting – one computer-projection study, apparently quite large in terms of data input and quite reliable in terms of software, ended up doing a chronological trackback that ended in – Maryland, VA.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, eh? And that in a mainstream publication, hardcover pop science.
I also ran across some interesting articles talking about the evidence leading toward the theory that AIDS is a recent viral chimera, and likely manmade (something about sheep visna virus and breeding green monkeys…I dunno).
And howzabout them aid workers arrested up in Africa for intentionally spreading the stuff? For a disease that doesn’t exist, AIDS sure pissed of at least one national government enough to arrest and kill the agents of its dispersal.
I’ll agree with you on the front of AIDS being used, like SARS (bioweapon tester pack, anyone?) or chicken-foot sniffles (boy, how the price of chicken soared over a few lightly explained deaths there…), as a political tool to a greater degree than people might like to think.
I’m just recalling bill Clinton trying to force circumcision on the whole continent to cure their sexual badness…now there’s a mind-control op on the grand scale….
But IMHO there’s a lotta people dead from this nonexistent malaise. Whatever the smokescreen is around the stuff, it’s a consistent and fairly socially specific killer. I’d kinda stay wary on that one.
Not about to join any blood brotherhoods,
Lord Reptor
April 17th, 2008 at 10:53 am
I certainly agree with the #2 post. This seems to have more to do with the hysteria surrounding Hate Crimes than the substance of the article. If you don’t accept homosexuality and it’s advocacy in the school systems, this makes you a criminal?
Homophobia (really personal choice) is the “new anti-semitism”.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Porky – succinct as ever. Mirage is right.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:53 am
…Ah-bdi… Blood donations suck anyway !!!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Alex, Paul – dont worry, this random ‘infowarrior’ who i will assume is some sort of agent can hand this article over to the police but they will just laugh – guaranteed.
Even though we live in a police state, it isnt as bad as the police arresting credible journalists yet.
Gays should not be allowed to transfuse blood – this is because their are only 7% gay men in the UK, yet they account for 50%+ of all new HIV cases from 2000-2006, my family works in bio-medical science, mainly virology and everyone with half a brain knows that to allow gay men to transfuse blood would increase the rate of infection, thats just a fact.
i dont understand how this muppet can align scientific fact with that of adolf hitler, my god, either this man who wrote you the email is a complete muppet or he is an agent.
either way he is of no benefit to our freedom movement so who really cares? the police wont.
i think a few people get confused with liberty and freedom and the ability to do anything you want at all, i mean, for example does it mean that since we do not permit people with an iron deficiency not to give blood does that mean we are curtailing the rights of people with iron deficiency? NO WE ARE NOT, its simple science that this blood will be of little use to anyone, how would you feel if you got a blood transfusion and then you were HIV+? i bet you wouldn’t be too happy…i know i wouldn’t.
my god people need to wake up.
being gay is a lifestyle choice, which i dont have a problem with… but its a fact if you are a gay man you increase your chances hugely of contracting HIV or AIDS…oh my god, i must be a nazi, i said if your gay you increase you chances of getting a disease, oh my god lock me up now before i start another holocaust.
MUPPETS.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:55 am
LOL Pork, they do. Did you ever see Bruce Almighty? It illustrated a nefarious reason for all the blood draws. bdi bdi LOL
April 17th, 2008 at 10:55 am
My son and I went to see Bruch Almighty together a few years back. That blood thing really made me think.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:58 am
The world seems to be run by Homosexual’s who will enact hate laws to protect one another and their evil deeds. The Bible rates Homosexuality a greater sin than even Murder. Sodom and Gomorra was wiped out over the sin of Homosexuality. The present Pope has to be a Homosexual. His first remarks in America were that he wouldn’t even talk about Homosexuality. He meets up with Bush Jr who is a Bi-sexual. Tony Blair, Putin, and almost all of the other world leaders are Bi-sexual’s. These people are all Homosexual’s and they will protect one another. There are lot’s of Homosexual’s on this blog. According to the Deguello report the Homo’s have taken over the Patriot movement. In my day Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and Protestants all condemned Homosexuality. But today this is Politically Incorrect.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
There’s always a Benedict Arnold in every freedom movement, and the nameless scumbag who said Watson should be thrown out of the movement for speaking the truth is that Benedict Arnold.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Just store your own blood real simple…
April 17th, 2008 at 11:02 am
@Bullhornman – Is a ‘homo backlash’ like a milkslap of some kind?
PS – If you think there are only two sexual orientations to choose from, you are a victim of dualistic Western medicalization of human behaviour, ignorant of biology, and probably have missed out on some interesting living. It’s possible for a given human not only to have propensities in various directions, but to choose from them freely.
Some of us mate like golden monkeys or geese – one partner, one life. Some of us act like chimpanzees, using sex as a status symbol, currency, and drug. Sometimes social constructions include very traditional cross-sexual or cross-gender behaviour, from symbolic male marriage to a widowed relative to the honoured warrior’s helper tagging along on war raids to keep the boys happy as they travelled to glory.
‘Homosexuality’ is a relatively recent invention of Western male medicine. The whole idea is about social control, not studying human behaviour. Don’t think so? Watch Will and Grace and tell me that isn’t the result of a social research and marketing campaign. That crap will be gone like a bad hairstyle within a few hundred years, replaced by other crap just as ludicrous.
And, back to the article at hand – Watson is right. Nothing to do with hate – it’s about math and public health. AIDS is a fairly carefully socially targetted disease. Pragmatism outweighs the defense of whatever mental construct you might think is right or wrong.
Guessing there’s more to worry about in the water supply than the blood supply anyway,
Lord Reptor
April 17th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Who threatened them? Let’s publish the names and home addresses of those who threated them.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:04 am
If gays can give blood, then I’m only going to accept blood in a country where they can’t give it. They are an HIV infested community.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Darth, likely it is just nwo intimidation – the THEY are the gay militants – akin to the nwo
April 17th, 2008 at 11:06 am
@ “Bejamin” (type slower, you’ll break a finger) – dude, you are deep in the depths of dualism. Whatever Bush and putin are up to, their bedroom romps are probably a)less relevant than you think
and b)much more complicated than you can imagine. Bisexual? Come on, man – you have no IDEA what kind of partying these guys are likely up to. Sex is probably the least freaky part of a night’s revels with those boys.
Tripping on a mental George and Angela show,
Lord reptor
April 17th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Shaman, you could store our own blood but it only keeps for 1 month, so it would be a bit of a waste of time!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
I can’t wait for him to be arrested and for the names of the arresting officers and judge to be published.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:10 am
This isn’t to criticize. but where is the “fact” that this practice would lead to a 50% increase in AIDS risk? Is there a credible source for this “fact”?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:11 am
I’m so sick of this baby shit!! If you say “Jew” your an anti semite if you say “Gay” your homophobic if you say black your a rascist if your against illegal immigrants ruining your country then your a xenophobe, Just shut up and get over yourself ya big baby!!! SHUT IT!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Google fags John Dark.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:14 am
I was under the impression that the homosexuals wanted to be called “Gay”, instead of Queer. People are people, and love is love, but health has to always be protected, period !!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Time to revolt folks. This shit ain’t gettin any better. How about a pro-white, pro-middle class, pro-christian lobby? No gay infected blood supply for our kids.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Funny, the people deciding what constitutes a “hate crime”, are practicing Satan worshippers. I am not intimidated. I hate Satan, I hate fags, I hate rent a goon cops, I hate the NWO scum, and if anyone doesn’t like that- I HATE YOU TOO. lol
April 17th, 2008 at 11:16 am
NO AIDS BLOOD FOR OUR FAMILIES!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am
If they touch Watson, the NWO is throwing a punch against one of our own.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am
lol got to love the handle “john” “dark” uh duh
April 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am
They touch Watson and the NWO is throwing a punch against one of our own.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Let’s face it, Paul is not the greatest researcher of all time. After the Virginia Tech shootings, he wrote two articles on the same day… One saying the video games were the cause, and another saying that video games were not the cause.
Seems like he’d rather be “Foist” than accurate.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Let’s circle the wagons around Paul and make it clear that we will defend him. Alex, you should defend him to the max. Draw a line in the sand.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Alex, Paul is your boy. It’s time for you to take a serious stand.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:19 am
JOHN DARK -
He is not saying that giving blood would increase the risk of everyone by 50%, please read the article.
what he is saying is the following facts:
7% of the UK males are GAY, Homosexual, they like to ream other men whatever you want to call them.
between 2000 – 2006 OF ALL NEW HIV/AIDS CASES 50%+ were from Gay men.
so, if you have an un-biased, logical thought process the small amount of gay men coupled with the humongous amount of gays that are afflicted out of all HIV/AIDS cases since 2000, then you will see that it isn’t a good idea.
It is also a scientific fact that if you are a man and like to put your penis in other mens rectums then you increase your chance of contracting aids MASSIVELY, but then again as a logical straight person who thinks with a skeptical view on everything and knows that allowing the group that is most afflicted with a debilitating disease which is incurable to give blood for general public consumption is a bad idea.
again dont worry, science is behind you Paul!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Well, I have only this to say. I love Watson’s articles and all the work he does. I agree with the article’s spirit, but as a member of the press, I have pointed this out, and will continue to point this out about Paul’s articles.
When you write an informative news piece, you never, never use words like I or put your own opinion in it. Watson has always done this. If Watson reported only what the people concerned said without giving his expert input on the subject, then we could make up our own minds, and he would be in the clear as far as getting heat for it.
Again, the smart thing to do is to just write the article without opinion, and then they can’t touch you.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Why cause more hate and separation by saying that gays are some sort of lepers whose blood is contaminated with some malignant disease… not all gay men have HIV, AIDS… why is it that people still believe such a ludicrous notion that just because one is a homosexual, one automatically has the disease… stop spreading the real disease here, which is hate and more hate… and when one donates blood, don’t they usually check for any sort of diseases in it before it’s inserted into another person?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Alex, you gotta get Paul all the defense he needs. He’s busted his ass for you.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am
THEO, I agree completely with your post.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:32 am
…Ah-bdi…” Feather ” Thanks for the…bdi… tip , always a pleasure !!!…ah-bdi… Godspeed !!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:33 am
yeah, but…..whats the stats on HIV infection from blood transfusions in the first place. you don’t tell us that in the articles and we come here for real reporting. i read the original article and it failed to report. we’re not stupid.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am
oh no, the gays are offended again. Poor gays.
Is it not true that gays are a lot more likely to have the deadly aids in their blood? Would it not then be reasonable to assume that it is much more unsafe to take a blood transfusion from gays? How about a poll that asks people how comfortable thay are with taking a transfusion from a gay. I wonder what the result might be.
I would also object to taking a transfusion from a needle user. I just offended the needle users and ofcourse I have no right to say what I just….wait….I do have the right to say what I want without the police or other Nazi agencies having anything to do about it.
To answer your question #23, the 50% in crease in risk would come from the fact that you just took a blood transfusion from a gay who are at least 50% more likely to have that aids virus. Hello.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am
How the NWO is doing? Very well thanks.
This is a launch that NWO love it/ the NWO needs healthy people so they should provide any contamination by their own.
The NWO can be very jealous if things does go out of their control so than control how and when you should be contaminated is their F. job.
So the NWO put the puppets to fight than they can win.
Who cares if you are Gay or Not?
They don’t might no even with the pedophyliers
Never mind get HIV
How about get life in hell just for taking blood? Mormons, Jehovah Witness, Jews, F. etc?
This F. waste time is just about THEOCRACY
WAKE UP AMERICA
April 17th, 2008 at 11:36 am
WOWZA Jewish – that is interesting reading, TYVM
April 17th, 2008 at 11:38 am
First, kisses to my Porky!!
Second, tyvm for that info Jewish. I have long believed the MILITANT gay movement was a deliberate psyop.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am
ok…most of us are stupid. but not all of us.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:44 am
There is a large number of medical doctors and other scientists who insist that HIV doesn’t cause aids in the first place. My perspective is that anything and everything the establishment says is suspect especially when Big Pharm’s making so much money on it.
Question Authority. Inform, Organize, Resist ….
April 17th, 2008 at 11:48 am
I wish all gays would die.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Watsons a good man, dam these stupid laws that exist. However, I don’t want to be at risk from aids in the blood supply, who really wants that?
If they wont let this die I suggest they (the gay community) set up their own blood bank, that way everybody wins, they can still give blood and we can know it’s not in our supply. I am not homophobic and I really don’t think that any of the Watsons are either. But we need to face up to the reality that I don’t want me, my family or anyone else for that matter at such a risk. It is not homophobic to think this way, it’s just logical common sence.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:54 am
it google ads, he cant control what they put on there
April 17th, 2008 at 11:54 am
When are all you “truthers” going to realize that Gay people are not the only ones with AIDS… in fact Straight Black Men hold the highest percentage now. But whatever… it is disheartening that the majority of the movement look down to me because I’m Gay… thats sad, and it’s all of yours problem. Doesn’t bother me a bit… in fact it is quite hipicritical. “We are better than the sheeple because they are asleep… but all you fags are going to hell cause this book over here said so”. Which BTW… you all cluch to the Bible like it is law while preaching “the New World Order has thier had in EVRYTHING!” What the hell makes you think they don’t control religion and everything that was ever put into your precious bible????!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:56 am
I agree with Bryan’s point, it’s an excellent one. When doing a story like he did you just need to cover your ass anymore, regardless whether those laws that are contrary to freedom of speech/press are right or wrong (which they are wrong) you just have to be careful. Writing news worthy pieces has become a crime in and of itself, anything that goes against what is popular in any given society is always deemed illegal. Since our culture right now consists here in America of watching television and celebrities, eating pizza and McDonalds anything that is said or done to get people to think twice about the culture in which they live is seen as wrong, and eventually illegal.
If you plan on fighting these globalist scum sucking twits you can not give them an in. Once you do that they end up having carte blanch to off you one way or another, and don’t think for one moment they wont if they believe they can get away with it. For instance if someone like me or even someone that is actually a thorn in the globalists’ side stop paying the income tax, imagine what will happen they would be frothing with a smile on their face saying finally we can take him down and noone can say anything about it.
Of course I don’t agree with any of this kind of nonsense, and they should not even be able to consider pressing charges for writing an article that was written for and released in America, on a website directed at Americans. It is like an American writing a story sending it oversees and somehow it violates one of their laws, then having them talk about extradicting me oversees for punishment, what kind of damn sense does that make? I was of the impression that Paul J. Watson was living in America, I guess not? Never-the-less I do not think one should be able to be prosecuted for writing an unpopular article, complete and utter nonsense. I could see if he was advocating violence, or even purposely inciting it, even that would be a stretch to try and prosecute, but this? Him simply saying that there is a great probability that taking in blood donations from homosexuals might/will increase HIV/Aids in the blood supply? That is not advocating anything that resembles violence or hate.
What about the laws against same sex marriage, pat robertson saying it was the homosexuals fault that 9/11 took place, what about that? If Watson is even touched, then we should start rounding up the Pat Robertsons of the world as well, after all he has advocated hate on many levels. How can you justify that and at the same time advocate laws against same sex? Just a question, don’t try to arrest me as well.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Ethan, they do control much. They also controlled the erotic media didn’t they. We were force fed sex for our whole lives. Yep, alot of us figured it out. Long ago. But I have personally been assaulted by a homosexual. IT WAS NOT MUCH FUN. I am talking assault here. I barely got out of it safely. Have seen enough in my years to STRONGLY DISLIKE MILITANT GAYS.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Paul Watson and his family should just come to the united states for a permanent vacation.the watson brothers are more american from where they stand than most americans anyway.so come on over.they dont pay attention to immigration status anymore.besides,britain is already ” one nation under cctv”.the watsons could easily love and respect the constiution unlike these “divide and conquer”foregners who think America is only a larger piece of bread which are still breadcrumbs compared to what americans used to have.when more and more of these breadcrumb foregners come to any particular field like say computers or construction,the rest of those in these fields must settle for breadcrumbs after being used to eating good quality bread.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
bombs kills more than aids
April 17th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
confusion is the beginning of the death of the soul of humanity.
there is no end after death as all life is quantumly attached to eternity
your choices here influece here and there after you die
why the hell do gays have a mafia, oh yeah its not a gay mafia, they just use gay so they think they get away with more like in all those agent provacateur movies, where its hip to be gay to get info and power over people.
not just gays, but i see this world turning in on itself quickly because of this childish 3rd world spy vs spy behaviorsims, this bad behavior is nourished by the systems humanity concentrizes around sadly.
i will admit long 20ish ago i had a fling with the same sex, but that was just curiosity, i stopped because i knew it was wrong. though some in this world go so far into wrong, they forget that which is right..not threatening people over stupid words of reason. because appearently it seems you dont care if a 1 year old who needs blood gets aids?? or your grandma accidently gets something because the blood screeners had to by fear of your threats, give her tainted blood..get it.?
April 17th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Just one more thing to add, from a comedian with whom I agree with “if someone who is gay wants to get married, he or she should have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us”. Nothing is wrong with same sex marriage, I think the only reason why I as a straight man sees this is because I always second guessed religious dogma, even while attending a catholic school as a child (which is why I was asked to leave). There is also nothing wrong with writing an article that goes against the grain like Watson did, no where in it did he say that he advocates violence or even incites it.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
FREESPEACH….
Why were you attacked??? I bet if you were attcked by a straight guy you’d be running around talking about how “you just got attacked”… But NOoooooo It was a fag. So why were you attacked? If it was a black man would you then talk down to all black men??? I wonder. People are people are people are people…. Place no Lable on anyone and you’ll do just fine honey
April 17th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
ethan – he said he was straight … not “a fag” as you so put it. grow a pair.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Hey DOC….
Sounds a lot like you live in fear of GOD… God=Fear… Obey me or else… … … They got you brainwash all the way honey… Live it Breath it , Sleep it and Die with it… Fuck Fear.. and FUC-K YOU DOC!
April 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Ethan you have no concept. He was drunk man. And about twice my size. And dont call me honey – you are only another smart ass.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
fk the faggots
fk the sissy polictcal correct speech freaks
fk the hate sayers, i mean the people who throw the hate word around
fk em all.
this is america
it was founded by tax protesting , cussing, swearing, drunken rabel rowzers.
it was not founded by polite little sissy geek necked femminist fags.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Ethan is obviously a whack off with too big a mouth. Obnoxious asshole.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
HOW DID IT COME TO BE
THAT SAYING: THAT MAN STICKS THINGS UP HIS BUTT
IS WORSE THEN A MAN WHO STICKS THINGS UP HIS BUTT ?
WHAT THE FK ?
April 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
You impress zip Ethan. Gender identity crisis with a hormone imbalance and frustrated aggression.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
That idiot bastard who would hand over Watson´s article to the police to get him arrested is NOT fighting the NWO – he´s helping them. He is either british CoIntelPro or a stupid moron who didn´t figure out reality and how the NWO works.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
wow this really brings some well informed jew hating homophobes to the table doesn’t it? I really love your “once and for all” comment about how gay jews are ruining your perfect little world. Congratulations you listed a bunch of people who are gay and make some justification that suits both your needs. By the way where did you get that list? do you really have the time to make that up or did you do a little copy and paste from your local neo nazi newsletter? So I agree that there should be some talk about the potential risk from certain groups of people when dealing with blood transfusions, yea i get it. Its a realistic issue, lets stay on topic ay?
“They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire.”
sounds like your a ball of fun there
i mean you gonna hate on this guy? have you seen angels in america?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kushner
April 17th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
some of the stupidest comments on this site come from docholiday. me smells a poorly paid and supported cointelpro. if not, then shame on him anyway for practicing the ‘divide and conquer’ philosophy.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I don’t think that meeting with the pope is aviolation of Church and State. For one thing, there is no law in the Constitution that talks about that. In fact, Church and State is never mentioned in the document. The first amendment deals with religon and state, but it prohibits the state from establishing a religon. As much as I dislike George Bush, he is not establishing Catholicism as the state religon by meeting with the pope. His meeting with the pope can be justified as much as him meeting with his regular pastor. We are allowed to have private meetings with our pastors even if we are elected officials aren’t we?
I hate to get into this, but from a biblical perspective, homosexuality is a version of the sin of fornication. All men and women commit fornication just about every day. I admit that homosexuality is a gross violation of God’s law, but when it comes to sin, it is no greater a sin than anything else. It is not the “big unforgivable.” Homosexuals need to be ministered to just like the adulterer, the theif, the tax collector and the liar. Jesus would easily forgive a homosexual if the repented of their sin.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
As long as people keep perpetuating the myth of a retrovirus called “HIV” as the cause of AIDS, you are going to hear more of this nonsense. The War on AIDS is like 911. HIV is the CAUSE of AIDS, just like Osama bin Laden cause the WTC towers to explode. SAME TACTITS , SAME LIES. watch this video: http://www.aidsfraudvideo.com
HIV=AIDS – Fact or Fraud, that explains 10 scientific reason why HIV is NOT the cause of AIDS, any more than Bin Laden was the cause of 911, or Global Warming is the cause of climate change. HIV/AIDS ids junk science. I wish Alex would cover the truth about this.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
People need to calm down about this whole aids hoax right now. HIV is a harmless retrovirus that doesn’t cause anything! The HIV virus can’t be isolated so they test for the antibodies and if you test positive for antibodies you are said to be infected with HIV. Correct me if I’m wrong but in any other case if you have antibodies you are protected and safe. HIV doesn’t lead to anything and more to the point it does not cause aids.
So called aids in North America and Europe effects very particular target groups only and they are homosexuals,intravenous drug users and haemophiliacs almost entirely. How can an infectious disease remain remain isolated in very particular social populations? In Africa so called aids effects men and women of all ages and all sexual orientations equally. How can they be the same disease? How is it that thinking people question the inconsistencies of the 9/11 official story yet accept the official story of aids hook line and sinker?
In the developed world so called aids is caused by drugs like poppers in the case of homosexuals and AZT(the miracle cure) while in Africa aids is caused by hunger,contaminated water, parasites, and a general lack of sanitation. Oh and lets not forget the poisonous vaccines that are being injected into the veins of Africa under the guise of good intentions. Wake up to the aids hoax and google Peter Duesberg if you want to get all the facts about the truth of aids.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
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Robert Bigelow Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
People need to calm down about this whole aids hoax right now. HIV is a harmless retrovirus that doesn’t cause anything! The HIV virus can’t be isolated so they test for the antibodies and if you test positive for antibodies you are said to be infected with HIV. Correct me if I’m wrong but in any other case if you have antibodies you are protected and safe. HIV doesn’t lead to anything and more to the point it does not cause aids.
YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT DUDE
IT’S THE COMPLETE BREAK DOWN OF THE AUTO IMMINE SYSTEM
MOST WITH AIDS DIE OF PNEUMONIA WHICH STARTED OUT AS A COMMON COLD.
IN 2005 I WAS IN A RESTURANT AND A MAN FELL OVER ON TO THE FLOOR, AS A FORMER MEDIC I RAN OVER TO HIM AND CHECKED HIS VITALS, HE HAD NONE. AS I WAS PREPARING TO START CPR I ASKED IF ANYONE KNEW THIS GUY
AND THIS OTHER BLACK GUY RAN OVER AND SAID, YES I DO, HE’S MY LOVER.
YOUR LOVER I SAID, DOES HE HAVE AIDS
YES HE DOES THE MAN SAID
I TOLD HIM, TOO BAD, HE’S DEAD
I STOPPED WHAT I WAS DOING WALKED AWAY AND WASHED MY HANDS 3 TIMES IN THE BATHROOM.. READ IN THE PAPER THE NEXT DAY, MAN WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD ON THE SCENE.
THE FIRE DEPT DIDNT DO CPR EITHER.
ONE LESS FAG IN THE WORLD.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
guys guys guys, your missing the point.
we aree not saying HIV = AIDS, we are simply saying that gay men have a higher chance of being HIV+ or having AIDS, this is FACT, well, i can only say this is FACT within the UK as statistics show this.
all we are saying is by letting gay men donate blood it increases everyone elses cahnces of contracting HIV or AIDS, my god how hard is that to understand? youd think i was talking dutch the way half of these muppets go on.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Stop telling people that “HIV is the CAUSE of AIDS” this is a NWO lie. Come on you 911 Truth people, you should know this by now! Long before 911 and “Islamic terrorists” there was a mad quack named Robert Gallo from Cold Spring Harbor funded by Rockefeller and his eugenics program. They designed a false flag virus called HIV, that doesn’t do ANYTHING (like bin Laden) and can be blamed for everything (like bin Laden). HIV is not the cause of AIDS here in the US or among the starving and dying people in Africa. But we still fund 300 billion dollars for this fraud (like the war in Iraq) because we believe the lies and fears. watch “AIDS Inc.” or “Deconstructing the AIDS Myth” by Gary null or “HIV=AIDS – Fact or Fraud” to see the truth. http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com
Every time you emphasize the HIV=AIDS lies, it is like blaming Islamic terrorists for 911. You will never get to the real causes by doing this. Get it?
April 17th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
So why don’t we just set up Straight only blood banks as a private enterprise? No law against that. And Alex, it’s time for you to take a stand. You owe Watson big time.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
This is lunacy.
If there is already a ban on it, what is Watson doing wrong by DEFENDING THE LAW which is already in place?!
April 17th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
guys guys guys, your missing the point.
we aree not saying HIV = AIDS, we are simply saying that gay men have a higher chance of being HIV+ or having AIDS, this is FACT, well, i can only say this is FACT within the UK as statistics show this.
all we are saying is by letting gay men donate blood it increases everyone elses cahnces of contracting HIV or AIDS, my god how hard is that to understand? youd think i was talking dutch the way half of these muppets go on.
especially you STARS! we are not saying HIV=AIDS! READ THE ARTICLE! OMFG.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Can’t we just start our own country? No NWO allowed. No gay blood donors. No religious fundamentalists of any religion. No credit / loans/ bankers. Just the US constitution posted to every door and in every public place. And if anyone disrupts the order, they hang. Oh, wait, that was what America was meant to be in the first place and in fact used to be. Shit, what happened?
April 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Alex, when are you going to declare the new Tea Party?
April 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Very sobering to see a guy wasted away.. to see and smell the dry dust coming off the body of the person you’re pushing in a wheel chair. I hope that someday we turn things around and discern/agree that homosexual sex is destructive behavior.. Shame on the British and the Americans for approving that which is queer. Give em hell, Paul..don’t back down.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
By the way folks, if you’re still eating red meat, you need to stop. The entire US supply is infected with mad cow disease.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
How about just not having sex until you’re married? It worked once upon a time.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Oh come on.
Alex Jones is clearly a fundamentalist Christian, and so are the people who write for him. Paul Joseph Watson’s articles are so laughably based on straw men I no longer bother reading them, the guy is clearly on the brink of all-out insanity (although that, of course, would be attributed to the chemicals the government pumps into his water supply to stop him from being such a bastion of truth). Even Alex isn’t as bad as Paul, Alex at least has the decency not to insult his worshippers with such a constant barrage of inane bullshit, at least sometimes he actually has a thought that could be considered logical.
Who cares that these men are homophobic? If this comes as a surprise to any of you, you’re clearly not as adept at seeing the ‘truth’ as you’d like to believe.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
not having sex till your married??? i would of had alot of divorces by now
April 17th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Let me get this straight, you can’t give blood if you visited the UK between 1992 and 2000 because of the fear of mad cow disease (something that the US has too.) But if you’re male and you’ve had anal sex (the main cause of HIV infection) you can bust open a vein and pump away. I’m moving to fucking Antarctica.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
The human World has not emotionally evolved at all. It was actions like this and all the poltical correctness as well as being involved with World religion that cause thousands to be burned or quartered for acting or saying anything different than the mainstream norm!
When are real “FREE” people going to start forming a plan and action against this current evil that is spreading like the flames of hell!
April 17th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Yo Russ. Go take your liberal NWO bullshit someplace else. We’re all stocked up here.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I don’t know what to say about this sad topic but I will say one thing, some of the comments by people are as funny as hell, I can’t quit laughing about the comments, it’s way better than a comedy club.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
better we have a blood contamination scandal like France had in the ’80s, leading to death of thousands of hemophiliacs?
April 17th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Robert,
I agree. It is absolutely astounding how people can understand 911 Truth, and STILL not comprehend that HIV=AIDS is a HUGE medical fraud. When is Alex Jones and staff going to wake up? Retroviruses have NEVER caused disease, and they don’t take 15 years to kill people. Magic Johnson is a good example. AZT and AIDS drugs will kill you like Arthur Ashe. This is a NWO lie! and people , smart people like Alex Jones still believe it? Watch HIV=AIDS – Fact or Fraud to see this exposed. Alex even had this video on Prison Planet, and they STILL keep spreading the HIV lies and fears!
http:www.aidsfraudvideo.com
April 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
‘Yo’ Theo, you’re an NWO shill man, God, you’re a government spy, fuck you man, get off of these boards, they’ve already got implants in all our brains, we dont need you feeding them the info too, THERES A WAR ON FOR YOUR MIND MAN
April 17th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Proud Primate.
I have two good friends that are hemophiliacs that survived HIV infection in the 80s. They are the last ones from their group. How did they survive? They didn’t believe the HIV=AIDS LIES and refused to take the toxic treatments. 400,000 US AIDS patients are dead now because of this “AIDS by Prescription” (7 times the number US Servicemen killed in Vietnam)
April 17th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Jesus, just load my fucking water with Fluoride, top up the blood bank with HIV, pump wireless radiation into the goddamn air, ship me another fucking plastic Prius, jack up my gas bill, send my kids to fight for a war that no one can remember why we’re fighting, pimp my job overseas, feed me cows on crack, add a fucking zero to my mortgage payment, give the neighborhood kids meth and give me the biggest bunch of losers of the fucking planet to vote for. And in your spare time, persecute poor fucks like Watson for stating the simple truth.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
the whole thing is NOT about the HIV contamination you are freighting because this is what the NWO does make you skeptical about your HEALTHY SYSTEM.
Go to bed and sleep with F. Ass tight
and they win
April 17th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
the whole thing is NOT about the HIV contamination you are freighting because this is what the NWO does make you skeptical about your HEALTHY SYSTEM.
Go to bed and sleep with F. Ass tight
and they win
April 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Go ahead, just load my fucking water with Fluoride, top up the blood bank with HIV, pump wireless radiation into the goddamn air, ship me another fucking plastic Prius, jack up my gas bill, send my kids to fight for a war that no one can remember why we’re fighting, pimp my job overseas, feed me cows on crack, add a fucking zero to my mortgage payment, give the neighborhood kids meth and give me the biggest bunch of losers of the fucking planet to vote for. And in your spare time, persecute poor fucks like Watson for stating the simple truth.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
“Feed the cows crack”
Hahahaha. That’s a good one.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
If you know so much about HIV=AIDS and testing, Please explain which test for “HIV” is proof that there is a virus present, Is it ELISA, Western Blot, P- 24 antigen, culture, PCR viral load or CD4 T-cell counts. The answer is NONE of them> After 25 years of research there is NO proven pathogenic process that demonstrates that HIV is the Cause of AIDS. NONE NOT ONE! The last attempt was with “viral Load” and that was disproved and trashed 10 YEARS ago (Nature; 98 Roder et.al) As was predicted in the video HIV=AIDS – Fact or Fraud.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Russ, you are transparent.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
One Question : What percentage of abortions are obtained by heterosexual women? My guess would be that it is a high number. If we are against abortion then we should ban pregnancies of heterosexual women. Only lesbians can bare children. My point is to show the rediculousness and the offensive nature of Watson’ article. Both my suggestion and Watson’s are equally absurd and I wanted to put them into context.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
do i think that legal action against mr.watson is necessay? No of course not, but i do see an incongruity in his philosophy. He is fighting for the rights of individuals to do what they want without the government interfering, but he takes the stance of the rights of gays to give blood should be prohibited by the government. Instead of prohibiting gays what he should be discussing is the lack of screening for the virus that is associated with blood transfusions. We shouldn’t be prohibiting people based on their sexual orientation we should instead be demanding more from our NGO’s and government organizations to actually test the blood supply.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
I hate to break it to ya, Stars, but if you got HIV, chances are pretty high that you’re gonna be face up in the dirt within 7 years. Now, maybe folks like you deem that some sorta coincidence, a fluke of nature perhaps. Maybe you think that the person talks themself into getting sick because of some sorta psychological thing. But you know what? The way most of us see it, including the entire fucking medical community, is that if you got HIV, you’re fucked.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Yo Russ, go check the mailbox, that check from the ACLU just arrived.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
If you know so much about HIV/AIDS and testing, Please explain which test for “HIV” is proof that there is a virus present, Is it ELISA, Western Blot, P- 24 antigen, culture, PCR viral load or CD4 T-cell counts. The answer is NONE of them> After 25 years of research there is NO proven pathogenic process that demonstrates that HIV is the Cause of AIDS. NONE NOT ONE! The last attempt was with “viral Load” and that was disproved and trashed 10 YEARS ago (Nature; 98 Roder et.al) As was predicted in the videos AIDS Inc. and HIV/AIDS fact or fraud.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
As a gay man, and having understood the impact of HIV/AIDS on the world, people need to realise that first, HIV was man made, and did not come from monkeys in Africa, which is what is generally accepted.
Second, it is to my understanding that since the onset of HIV that all blood donations have been tested, and even before this for tuberculosis and other viruses and diseases that could contaminate donated blood.
HIV was created in a laboratory by the government and NWO. This is all in accordance with their agenda of population control and population “adjustment”. Why are we now looking at issues like Bird Flu, Mad Cow Disease, and also Mad Chicken Disease which is coming.
The only way to fight this, is to put aside our prejudices, be it religious, sexuality or otherwise, and see this for what it is. This is only a pressure point to make us, we the people, argue and hate amongst ourselves. Why are we even discussing this?
To say that HIV would be increased in the blood supply due to the donation of blood from homosexuals is a truth. There is nothing more to discuss. It is statistically accurate. Remember, I am a gay man saying this. Did anyone lie? No. This is the truth. However, as I stated earlier, all blood that is donated is tested, so it would only mean a taxation on the system of blood donations and that more blood would be rejected because it was HIV infected.
Let’s get beyong this, this is just another stupid reason for us to argue amongst ourselves. Let us see what is the real tragedy here, that instead of a reason for us to come together to fight the rising evil, we are creating the same evil amongst ourselves.
We have better things to focus on.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Mike in Austin, what’s transparent is the simple fact that Alex has amassed armies of white Christians who feel terrified and powerless in the face of oppression, by feeding them lies and convincing them that actually, they know much more than everyone else. He provides the ego boost, and they return the favour.
I know how you all love to follow, but for fuck sake, how can you all claim so emphatically to know the ‘real truth’ when you’d all be bending over and taking it in the ass if Alex and Joseph told you it would rinse the fluoride from your brains?
April 17th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Now Hope, for Christ’s fucking sake. It’s been proven that HIV has been around in the monkey community for over 70 years. Some fucking moron fucked a monkey in Africa and that’s how it started. I know that may not be, how do I put it, palatable, since it paints patient zero in kind of a desperate position to get a piece of ass, but a fact’s a fact.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Theo,
I know thousands of people with HIV who are fine and healthy. They are not sick, 95% of the world’s population with HIV are healthy. AIDS went into decline here in the US in 1993.
Here is a link: http://www.aliveandwell.org
April 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Stars, of course they’re fucking healthy. It’s because of the exponential curve of infection. Most of them are healthy because everyone else who had HIV is DEAD.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
population control to me, is guise and lies for what it really is. Ritual Sacrifice for thier dark lord.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
your analogy using abortions is absurd because an abortion effects only one person. an aids contaminated blood supply effects an entire country
April 17th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Theo, and where’s the proof to justify this fact?
Where’s the proof, that 70 years ago, some African fucked a monkey and that’s what started aids?
Oh wait, there isn’t any proof, because just like the crackpot religion you follow, and just like the crap spewed all over this site that you so eagerly lap up, YOU DON’T NEED ANY PROOF IF YOU REPEAT YOURSELF ENOUGH.
Orwell would have an absolute field day with you tards.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Theo, thanx for making me smile I could not have put that any better, infact it would look wicked on a t/shirt. Peace people
April 17th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
HIV is not a new virus created by the NWO. It has been around for centuries as evidenced by Farr’s law of epidemiology at a constant rate of .05% . That is about 1 person out of 200 at random. That number has never gone up or down in over 22 years.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Here’s something that will no doubt warp your fragile little minds: donated blood is screened for HIV.
So not allowing anyone to donate blood because they’re gay and MIGHT have aids is fucking retarded, if they do, it won’t get used. If they don’t, well that’s more blood for the sick and wounded.
Wait wait, let me guess, you’re all jehovah’s witnesses and this bullshit is a cover?
April 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I think he’s hot a few drinks & those heals will lighten right up…
April 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Yeah, you’re right, it’s population control courtesy of the nastiest naturally occurring life form on this planet – the fucking virus. Crack open a biology text book. We still don’t have a cure for the common cold. It’s just nature’s way of sayin that if you ain’t gonna breed, mother nature’s gonna kick your ass. It’s Darwinism. Look it up. Survival of the fittest. I know it kinda sucks, but it’s the way the fucking planet works. Sure, we’d all like to be living in a Disney feature length cartoon, but it just ain’t the way shit goes down. Man doesn’t have to conspiratorially involved in every fucked up thing on the planet. Mother Nature’s a bitch. It’s sad. But that’s all part of the way it is.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
doc, may i please remind you and everyone that the bible was written by man, no matter how much one impresses it was inspired by god, we only assume that because of its peerceptual transmission to the brains of too many followers of half meanings and assumptions based on half truths. The law was written by a repressed hebrew man stuck in a hot desert with likely annoying loud drunks and screaming orgies, which annoyed his intellect.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
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April 17th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Theo,
There are no such things as slow viruses, just SLOW people. When you caught a cold or measles, did it take 10 years to make you sick. HIV’a lifespan is 3 weeks, then you are antibody positive, or immune, which is what they test for with the ELISA antibody test.
Watch the video HIV=AIDS – Fact or Fraud and learn the truth about this scam instead of just spouting things that don’t have science or common sense behind them. HIV is propaganda.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Mother Nature is not a liberal. She’s a big, fucking mama who is ready to send you a cab unless you stay fit, don’t fuck around and give her the offspring she wants.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
i know one man didnt just write the whole bible, although compare to some of the great writers of the recent times, it is possible, but doubtful if the information is accurate that the writings were from different time periods.
And how can a prideful bunch of hypocrates trounce the earth proclaiming their god must be worshipped in the fashion they lay down based on their own lack of forsight, insight and any other kind of sight. Blind sheep behind satan to me, all religion is waiting to be led down the yellow brick road of their wildest dreams lol it is funny because ive seen it coming so long.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Stars, what can I say? Denial might work for you. I couldn’t fucking care less. Believe what you gotta believe. Whatever makes you happy.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Look, it is about creating more infighting. Tell the gays they can’t give blood, and make them defend their anal sex practices. Then tell the logical people (especially the straight christian) that they are being mean and politically incorrect for “hating” gays. Big fight there. Meanwhile, let’s poison everyone anyway while they argue. On a side note, i’ll bet that Watson drinks out of a burkey, with flouride filters in it. So much for the comment about that. It has gotten to the point where you simply may not address issues without being demonized by the neocon-nwo-libleft freaks out here. It used to be annoying until we realized that it was serious business about forcing martial law and enless psy-ops aginst liberty. Now it is infuriating.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Russ, you are wrong.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
If you listen to GCN, let me recommend that you listen to George Whitehurst Berry’s show that comes on right before Alex Jones on GCN live. George is up on the REAL issue about HIV being a fraud. He has had Dr. Peter Duesberg, Stephen Davis, Dr. Andy Maniotis, Dr. Michael Ellenr and Steven Allen on a guests. I wish Alex would catch on, we really need him in this debate. Instead, Alex has people like Boyde Graves and Lenorad Horowitz who just spread more propaganda.
Hereis the link to Crash – Are you Ready? http://www.hearitonline.com
Look at the links here and learn the truth about HIVAID$ the fraud of the century!
April 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Faggotry is the sina quanon or benchmark of a doomed nation. When you see a nation stop making faggotry illegal, as it is under the common law; and even start promoting it in it’s schools and news media, and sanctioning fag unions or “marriages”, and even arresting and imprisoning those members of the Remnant of God who speak out against the abomination of Fags: then you see this reprobate Luciferian nation has become a direct enemy to God. God will destroy this nation. God hates this nation. This goes for the UK as well as for the USA now. America was formed as a nation more under the Law of God and its Liberty than any nation since ancient Israel, but now it has gone directly and completely against God. You can’t have real Liberty apart from the Law of God. “Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is LIBERTY”.
The Scriptures are the very word of God. They were written by God, using humans as secretaries. Every word has been proven to be true for many centuries, even millenia. Ron Paul has a serious problem in that he seems to follow the atheist Ayn Rand more than he follows our Founding Fathers who all believed in the Scriptures to be taught to our school kids. Yes, even the Deist Thomas Jefferson ordered that the kids in D.C. be taught the Scriptures as the primary text in their school. Even the Deists Jefferson and Franklin would never have stood for the abomination of Fags. Ron Paul really wavered and acted like he was choking eating a possum when asked about the abomination of fag marriages. Same way when asked about abortion. Yeah, I know this is a state issue, not a federal issue, but the Feds made it an issue and this has to be directly spoken to and reversed by a president.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Theo,
Why don’t you take a look at something that might teach you something? I mean this in a friendly manner. Did you beleive that 911 was an inside job the first time you heard that? Question HIV=AIDS and investigate it. HIV is a FRAUD. http://hiv-aids-factorfraud.com
April 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Hey everyone! Notice how Russ slips in the fact that Jones listeners are ’scared white men’. He is trying to infer something there, eh? Jones listeners are all walks of life, and Russ is trying to create a picture that is untrue, false. Slipping false assumptions into the mix and then coming to conclusions based on those falsehoods is the only thing they have. Misinformation, spin, lies, and preposterous allegations are not a basis for good debate. It is like argueing with a smartassed kid by the playground swing at the elementary school. He knows how to talk bullshit, but he’s just a lying little chump.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Hitler boooh
Watson yahoooh
Infowars reader complainor: R U the only 1 to have an opinion?
April 17th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Police(at least certain criminal elements whithin) likes Infowars:
makes their job easier
April 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
This is obviously an attack on Jones and Watson, and the movement in general. Let us know who we need to apply preassure on, we will not allow our brother Paul Watson be held in political detention for something he wrote on a website which is only repeating information with no hate targeted at any marginalized group whatsoever.
If he gets arrested on this were all gonna have to make a lot of phone calls.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I enjoy that Infowars put this board up. I knew the second it came into existence that it would be infested with message board scumbag liars. But you are on our turf now. This is not yahoo, or msnbc. This is Infowars. You can’t pull your weak tag team style attacks here. You are outnumbered, and your techniques are well known now. It is time to consider giving up, perhaps?
April 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
If some of these bashers (whether bashing Jews instead of Zionists or LBGT people) think that they will further the movement by marginalizing groups….THINK again!
The bashing and marginalizing will simply lead others to not join, to not want to be involve. Let go of your preconceived notions and judgements, otherwise you’re not better then the NWO.
The only way the movement will be more effective is by being inclusive.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Get serious for a moment. The aids miracle drug AZT is so dangerous that it was banned as a treatment for cancer. It is probably the most dangerous drug approved for use on humans ever. Billions of dollars are being made off this excessively expensive drug by the pharmaceutical industry who are notorious for inventing phantom epidemics. The HIV hoax is definitely good for business.
The immune system is compromised by a wide range of drugs and circumstantial conditions that opens the door to an assortment diseases which are identified as aids because of a HIV diagnosis. Without HIV the diseases are what they are, with HIV they are aids. If these different diseases were to be treated as they were prior to the HIV discovery and claim, then those inflicted would have a far better chance of survival. Bring HIV into the equation and every disease becomes something it’s not, it becomes AIDS. Given an improper diagnosis and subsequent treatment (AZT) and they are dead in 2 or 3 years. These results confirm their assertions about the deadly AIDS epidemic and the frenzy continues as evidenced by this raging debate.Google Peter Duesberg and get the facts before you go on a rant.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Doubtless this phoney shill acting all offended has been waiting and waiting for some opportunity to attack on some bogus issue were 911 could be ignored. This is, as they say in England, “bollocks” – a bunch of BS.
It also shows the weakness of trying to please everybody in a big-tent sort of movement. Gilchrist’s Minuteman organization invited several blacks into the leadership, and immediately black race-issues came to the front, it distracted the core supporters (95% white), and caused the movement to flounder. So now are we are all suppose to say “We love sodomites” for the sake of unity and avoiding criticism? I don’t think so. The NWO leadership is teaming with homosexuals. This attack is a very clever trick.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
My brother runs a haematology lab for a large hospital and I can tell you now one of the reasons they banned gays from giving blood was to stop them using blood donation as a free and discreet AIDS screening process. Whats wrong with that you might ask?
Well in response to Russ who thinks its “retarded” not to allow lots of gay men to give blood because it gets tested. Think again, there is a window (up to 3 months) between contracting the virus and developing the antibodies which I think are what they test for ** I will have to check that with him**
So if the test isn’t 100% then maybe inviting high risk groups to give blood is “retarded”
The main point however is that we are allowed to have to discussion and come to a logical conclusion.
Keep up the good work Watson.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Go tell your bosses it isn’t working anymore. Oh, wait, then you’d be off the payroll.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I do not care how offensive it may be to some individuals, if allowing gays to donate blood increases the risk factor for spreading HIV, then they should be banned from donating blood.
I do not consider this to be the promotion of hate, but rather common sense, if the numbers prove it increases the risk of HIV transmission. This should also apply to those that share needles with drug addiction and other “high risk” pools.
Speaking for myself, if I had a blood transfusion from an unprotected blood supply, the last thing I would do is go and have unprotected sex with my wife, until I passed HIV testing. Thats speaking for myself and the same would go for donating blood.
Donors should exercise a high degree of moral compass when considering themselves as blood donors, or as a sexual partner for that matter.
And the real big problem I have with all these new agenda laws, is that none of these new laws is any better than our tainted blood supply, which IMO, is not good enough for those that exercise a high degree of moral compass in their daily lives. Are we to say that everyone must drink from the same sewer because others may be offended when the political Kool Aid is plain bad stuff?
Oh, I know, they died of cancer, or HIV, or the rare hospital bug, or were killed in the war, or had a compromised immune system, a taser, or were lost on the cattle car to who knows where. This is becoming a camp without walls or barbed wire, one that can’t be photographed to enrage the public, but zee smoke stacks are a smoken and surely there is no one that can be blamed this time around. Yavol, vhat trains are zee referring to? All aboard, zee papers please.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I’m a huge supporter of gay rights and this thing in no way was an attack against gays grow up.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
give a bigot an inch and he will justify his “fag” rant with some quote from the bible. Mix in some good old NWO slant to the whole thing and you play right into the hands of the people who would like to marginalize anything legit this site or any other like it is trying to express.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This is rightfully termed lunacy in political correctness. By including sexual orientation as a grounds against discrimination the system allows for discrimination against the hetrosexuals, and in turn the nuclear family. To clump homosexuality in with some type of race and to grant it special status is flawed logic as well. People from most races consider homosexuality to be contrary to nature. If however crimes were being committed against homosexuals then there are laws already in place to protect them. The only thing that making homosexuality a protected class does is to allow for a centralization of power away from the people that consider it to be more of a mental illness than anything else. It’s an errosion of democracy that allows for the further breakdown of the traditional family as the basic building block of society. Because I and the majority of the population think its wrong and harmful to society doesn’t mean I hate gays. And I sure don’t have to accept morals that go against my conscience when they are dictated from the state.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
The “AIDS” virus was created at a press conference on April 23rd 1984, when HHS Secretary Heckler and Robert Gallo announced that they had discovered (actually stole from the Pasteur Inst) THE probable cause of AIDS. This was done BEFORE scientists had a chance to peer review Gallo’s test results. There NEVER was ANY science behind this.
The CDC had already noted that gay men using poppers (nitrate inhalants) and huge amounts of drugs, along with junkies and IV drug addicts were the ONLY ones getting this new immune disease, and it could all be explained by gay and drug addict behavior. BUT this didn’t sell drugs and fund research, so they created a VIRUS and infectious cause for people, because these things SCARE folks (like 911 terrorists) and then drive them to fund government programs. After 25 years of failed research, complete nonsense as to why some people like Magic are still alive, and others die, and toxic drugs like AZT that cause AIDS by prescription, the US public STILL doesn’t get it! But EVERYONE is an expert at spreading the HIV fear propaganda, and not knowing anything but what Oprah has to say about it.
This whole debate is PROOF that scaring people with imaginary germs like HIV=AIDS works VERY well. 24 years later! Spreading the fear of HIV is like spreading the fear of Osama Bin Laden. Rockefeller and eugenics form Cold Spring Harbor are behind the entire HIV/AID$ fraud, and they are laughing at how easy germ fears scare people. Check out 2,580 scientists who challenge the HIV/AIDS “science” if you want to learn more.
http://www.rethinkingaids.com
April 17th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I am sorry I agree with Paul.It absolutly is not offensive.It is completely logical.If I had T.B. would you want my blood?I guess that sounds ignorant.
One thing I don’t understand is why they can’t jusat test it I know they test for drugs.I deffinatly don’t think Paul Watson was trying to be a bigget
April 17th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
My problem is not about what Watson wrote, I think he made a reasonable argument.
My problem is with some of the hate being spouted here by people following religious doctrine, painting yourself as a “Fundamental Christian” with a load of hate will ALIENATE potential mainstream people who can join the movement.
They will especially alienate younger folks (such as me) who are in their 20s or Teens.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
HIV testing is a SCAM…why do you think it is being pushed by the corporate media and the government? To perpetuate the myth there is a global epidemic of the non-existent disease AIDS. There isn’t. In fact there still isn’t even a consensus of what AIDS is. The HIV test isn’t even used in Europe…and it is a death sentence in Africa and America. The whole HIV=AIDS paradigm is a SCAM to keep the redneck morons on the Alex Jones boards preaching hate based on their opinion of people based on what isn’t even their business in the first place.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Whenever you hear a whinefest over gays being offended about something, ask yourself “how many actual gays were involved in this whining?” The answer will always be a marginal few. As a matter of fact, sometimes it’s just “sympathetic” straights trying to stir up some banter, or these uber militant types that comprise a small portion of the so called community. Why would a gay man or woman without HIV or AIDS want to have the blood supply return to an unsafe level?
April 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
READ #151 READ post 151 READ 151
It’s a FACT…AIDS is a government/medical-industrial complex contrivance to sell drugs and research.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This is not a political issue it’s an issue of poor science which is being exploited by pharmaceutical interests
to make billions meanwhile you people argue about everything under the sun while the pharma industry laughs all the way to the bank.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Paul Watson is not scientifically qualified to write, period. His articles serve only to provoke and misinform, I believe his writing should not be given a forum while honest veterans go homeless in America. He did not add a single iota to TRUTH.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
It’s the politically correct “gay rights” crowd would destroy the 9-11 truth movement. Truth is truth.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
sorry bro this planet isnt yours or your sister/wife’s
April 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I’ve skimmed through most of these comments, and I am appalled at some of the things that were said. I see comments about killing fags, hating all gays, etc. Doesn’t that go against what the patriot movement stands for? Which is freedom for all from tyranny?
Don’t get me wrong, I disagree with homosexuality, and yes I am a Christian. But far from a perfect one, (which if you meet a perfect Christian, I can guarantee you they are not a Christian). But I don’t hate homosexuals. Hate is a very strong word and I don’t think people should throw it around so easily. I hate what they do, but I don’t hate them and I don’t want any of them killed. And I certainly don’t want to call them names and belittle them.
America is supposed to be about freedom. If people choose to be different, that’s their decision and supposed to be their freedom. I may choose not to associate with them, which again is my freedom, but I don’t want to harass them or bring harm to them in anyway. Freedom to me is the right to think, believe, feel, write, read, dress, and do as you wish. As long as what you do does not bring physical harm to anyone, or impedes on their basic freedoms, such as trespassing, etc.
As far as Paul Watson, how is what he did wrong? Even if his facts are incorrect, which I am not saying they are or are not, how is this wrong? Just because it is about homosexuality? What about all the incorrect things that the MSM prints and reports on? I don’t see that type of uproar and fervor directed at them that I am seeing here.
And knowing how fair Alex and his team are, I’m sure that if anyone wrote an article, minus any profanity and name calling, with facts that refuted what Paul said, then they would publish it. But that won’t happen because people would rather spew forth hatred, (from both sides mind you, not just people who disagree with homosexuality) instead of openly debating the matter using facts.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Arse Injected Death Sentence [AIDS] is very Real. I’m not anti gay I just have anti gay tendencies. Man I’m so tight in that department you could stick a larg lump of coal up there and I would turn it into a diamond. Who knows. All I know the Judgment of a persons sexuality is the facist approach.
Even in the times of William the Conquorer if a women was not to be had a pretty young boy would do. Meaning they are all around you and its the culture you live in that breeds the hate or love for it.
As for our laws… what a joke. OTT there..
April 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Enough victims of HIV are innocent of “risky lifestyles.” I refer you to the hemophiliacs in Canada given tainted blood products provided by then-governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas to Canada as a deadly gift from Arkansas’ prison population. Also, remember victims Ryan White and Arthur Ashe, among many others infected (some on purpose) by HIV positive people, many of them gay, need I go on? No, no, hell NO! to gay blood donations. It’s not bigotry, it’s common sense. If you agree that the state can force kids to have tainted vaccines in the interest of protecting herd immunity and “public health,” then you cannot agree that the blood supply must be tainted to kill off the herd that “public health” was meant to save. And, just to make some fringe group feel better about itself? What does this say about that group, that they want to put millions of people at risk just so that they can “feel” better about themselves? What sick arrogance! What murderous intent! These are not reasonable people that are pushing this agenda. They are crazed mass murderers.
Hey Mr. Gay Guy who feels you should donate blood and I should happily accept it for myself and my kid (yeah, I’m a “breeder”), would you want blood from my Hep C infected friend? How about it? No? Well, then, that’s hate speech and discrimination against a military veteran and a Hep C sufferer…and that makes you a bigot, Mr. Gay Guy! You should readily accept my friend’s tainted blood to prove to me and the world that you are not a bigot. It’s only just, fair, and unbiased that you do so. What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander…..even if geese and ganders cannot be told apart any more.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I’m not totally in agreement with Paul’s aritcle. However if studies show that blood, donated by Gay & Bisexual men in the U.K., is not tested to ensure there is no HIV, than they shouldn’t risk it. If it doesn’t than that runs the borderline of discrimination. There should be a ban on donations of blood from any permiscious person; gay, straight or bi, man or woman. What about prostitutes and etc. I havn’t read the entire article, I’m just stating how i feel about the subject.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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April 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I think the only reason the NWO lets Alex Jones live is because it is very easy to paint him and his followers as a right-wing nuts. His insistence in focusing on divisive issues like illegal immigration, abortion, and gay issues (all insignificant in the larger scheme of things in my opinion) give the people who run the Mainstream Left the perfect opportunity to say “Anyone who believes in 9/11 Truth is a gay-hating, xenophobe pro-lifer”.
I love Alex, and I know he is not hateful. I would never want to tell anyone how to run their media network, and know that Alex has every right to say what he does on the air (and agree with almost everything he says). I’m just disappointed that he has become so visible as the so-called “Father of the 9/11 Truth movement” because it attaches our fact-based movement to his opinion-based, emotionally charged issues.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Let’s not forget the facts here people. The truth is when this Aids thing first came onto the scene in the 1980’s it was called “GRID” Gay Related Immune Deficiency Syndrom. That spells FAG to me.
It wasn’t long before the Fags got upset that they were deemed the perpetrators that the establishment changed the name, but that doesn’t change the facts.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I saw the article yesterday and was rather offended. Where did this data come from that the HIV risk would go up 50%? If AIDS is a real virus, it is NOT just a homosexual virus anymore, hasn’t been for some time and I doubt it ever was…that was probably mainstream media brainwashing to silence the “gay movement.” Remember, that was the 80’s and people were just starting to feel safe to “come out.” No different than tying terrorism to Islam, really. And why are we not talking about potential hepatitis infection from ANY donor who is sexually active? Shame on Mr. Watson for writing such an article…but on the flip side…he should not be arrested for having an unpopular opinion. I highly doubt his intention was to spread hate, if anything it just got people ticked off at him.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Although I admire Alex for his great (and in many ways holy) work on the radio show, and though I also admire the Watson brothers in england, I have to weigh in and call a spade a spade.
If you read PJW’s original article, it is a seething, baiting and inflammatory call to arms.
Does he have a right to say these things? sure.
I am a constitutionalist as well as you.
But the reality is– the british gentleman’s request to have the policy reviewed as ‘homophobic and offensive’ is by far less offensive than Watson’s analysis.
There is a bit of dirty pool going on in the article that is being glossed over now, and I think he should fess up to it.
For example:
PJW quote “While the absolute number of cases of HIV in heterosexuals diagnosed annually is greater than for men who have had sex with men, when the size of the respective populations is taken into account it can be seen that the relative risk of exposure is very different,” according to Dr Brian McClelland, strategy director at ScotBlood.
So the simple fact is, much more HIV infected blood comes from the heterosexual population, spin it as you will. While admitting this fact, it does not occur to him to judge the heterosexuals as not being moral –aren’t they also among his list of the damned?
nor does he even think to become alarmed at all that tainted blood. Is this not the more important issue? or is the tainted blood a side issue?
Also:
PJW quote: ‘Most gay people would be “distressed” to hear that their lifestyle is neither moral or healthy and so an advocate of that view would be subject to arrest for expressing an opinion.’
Hey PJW, now you assume the judges position?
Moral? Healthy? You mean like the heterosexuals?
We all sin, just ask Alex. He says he has, and probably will in the future. None are perfect.
And yet you cast that first (er, one millionth) stone at homosexuals—all without your own sin?
Or are your sins more palatable because you are heterosexual?
I heard Alex on a rant several weeks ago say that homosexuals have 300 partners a month. Really? All of them?? Is that even humanly possible? 10 anal sex partners a day, every day of the year??? There is a deep bias within the PP organization that is irrefutable.
And for the coup de grace:
PJW quote: ‘How dare Page suggest that we mere scum should be under the same law as the precious homosexuals? They are the God race and we are just disgusting “breeders,” as the homosexuals can rightly call us without being arrested for committing hate crime.’
Really?
Scum? Precious homosexuals? God race? They call us names too? Why can’t we get them arrested?
No, there is no personal attack going on here. He didn’t say ‘Kill the Fags, they are like rats to be exterminated’ so we can all relax.
For that paragraph he SHOULD come under fire.
In Kurt Nimmo’s spin of the situation, he says:
‘Paul Joseph Watson did not threaten a single homosexual with “hatred,” but instead simply pointed out the lunacy of allowing the blood supply to be contaminated by AIDS…’
Simply? hahahahaha
Now tell me, PJW, are ya getting confused about the mission you are on? Because last I checked we are all trying to defeat the NWO eugenics death machine.
You have a deep seated and histrionic bias. Alex too.
Yet I still listen, because I need you and we need you right now.
Fess up Paul Joseph Watson, you and Alex have a fear of homosexuals, commonly known as HOMOPHOBIA. It is out of all proportion to the reality of the situation of another person’s same sex desire. And hey, if you just say ‘no’ to that behaviour, as apparently your have, I assure you you’ll go to heaven on the fast elevator. No plank in your eye, heh?
Dress it up and use Christ (oh yeah, I forgot, he had nothing to say about homosexuality)
So, dress it up and use your Torah as your weapon, but the fact is I, as a listener, resent the divisiveness and splitting of our (prisonplanet etc…) movement with spleen filled personal vendettas fueled by childish fears.
Peace-Steven
April 17th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
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Monty L. Collier (Red Beetle)
He’s not violating the seperation of Church and State. The Pope is not only a Religious leader, but the head of the smallest nation on earth. In other words Bush is meeting with another Head of State. Put Vatican City in google for smallest nation on earth. In a court of law Bush would win on this one.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
cody you dumbass..
April 17th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Hi if this recent blood/Gay thing thats been reported saying PJ Watson is being wrong thought this link proves a point :https://secure.blood.co.uk/c11_cant.asp hope this is of use
Regards to you all
Sifu
April 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
9 You have received blood or think you may have received blood during the course of any medical treatment or procedure anywhere in the world since 1st January 1980.
I like that one !!!
April 17th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
caution: This thread is laced with government shills and hetrophobes.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Some of my closest friends over the years have turned out to be gay men, and even though I don’t share their sexual interests, I accept them for who they are. Personally I feel homosexuality is immoral, but we are ALL sinners in one way or another.
However, if I, or someone in my family needed a blood transfusion, I would not accept it from these friends, just to be on the safe side. Because they have told me about some of their sexual encounters, and they DO NOT always play it safe.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
There are many that do not approve of gays, but putting that aside one must apply common sense to the issue.
What I find the most offensive is when political correctness over shadows common sense and risks everyone’s health.
It’s gotten so bad that our Constitution offends not only communism, but also the fascist necons. And what is next, will we do away the legal age because it offends the MBLA?
Everything we are being fed today has some twisted dialectic twist in back of it, to the point that common sense folks are now in a straight jacket so that some so & so can do as they like regardless of the consequences.
What we need more than anything is our Constitution and Bill Of Rights on an individual basis, along with moral compass. If there are those among us that feel they can take risks with their own health, then the rest of us must be protected from their reckless lifestyle and personal choices.
I do not agree with turning the entire planet upside down and inside out on behalf of those that want what they want and to hell with common sense and moral compass.
If they are so offended by common sense and moral compass, then they should change their behavior so that they are no longer a member of the offended, senseless group.
By the same token, if speed limit signs offened someone because of all the speeding tickets they are getting, then they might want to consider obeying the law and not speeding, like anyone else with a functioning brain. Speeding might be fun for some, but it also kills a lot of innocent people. Just for fun should never become law when it places others at risk.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I don’t want homo blood in my system. They can do what they want with thier own lives, but thier lifestyle shouldn’t effect mine. T he increase in AIDS in the blood banks would be too much. Thier blood should be seperate. Oh ya, and i don’t hate homosexuals…
April 17th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I get a good laugh at the gay rights people. I get a good laugh at many blacks, asians and other minorities in britain. Not them all but a lot of them.
They should try being scottish (as I am) in England. Im a jock, a scotch git, a skirt wearer, a sheep sha***r etc etc etc. If the lovely English guys who happily called me those names had said similar things to a homosexual for example they’d be in court.
The thing is I AM Scottish, and if an Englishman or an American calls me a Jock then im happy with that or any other names they care to throw at me. That is not racial hatred, its simply being human and Im happy to give the names back. I feel that many times Westminster has been unfair to Scottish people (hence our drive for independence) but we deal with it.
Many times a foreigner has asked me what I wear up my kilt, if she’s nice ill be happy to show her
. Can you imagine the reaction if someone asked an african what he wears under his grass skirt?
As Billy Connolly pointed out – The gays are out of the closet, its a normal natural thing in the world now…that means they should be prepared to put up with the same s**t that everyone else does.
Its true though, everyone is ‘discriminated’ against at some point. If you go for an interview with a male boss and are exactly qualified as the only other candidate except she’s a hot babe then your not going to get the job. Thats life.
Britain really is getting screwed up however, and its just getting worse. But then, thats because all the dumbf**k general public paying more attention to football than important issues.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
How Dare in this world you know 100% some one is not or a Gay person?
Do you know in Iran they have Gays also?
Where in this world you will believe in some one that says he is or not a Gay?
You guys are LUNATIC this much?
May you will go with the Lunatic Eugenics that will read you F. mind one day?
With a scanner machine and even will knows what F. you will probable do in the future?
April 17th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
right on davey…well put i agree
April 17th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
“I am a straight man, fighting the New World Order and agree with most I read on this site,” an Infowars reader complained in an email. “But Paul Watson’s article on Gay blood Transfusions is bordering on a speech by Adolph Hitler. I am taking a copy of this article and may even hand it over to the British Police. There is still a legitimate reason to use the police, and this is it. He should be thrown out of the movement for that article alone. Watson is at risk of making us look {like} those those we fight. I do not agree with all these hate laws when it comes to faith or such like. But this is just a blatant attack on these people designed to cause hate. I have worked with many gay people regarding 9/1. My Infowars Network Profile photos are of us being supported by Gay Pride Rally 2007 letting us set up a stool.”
I am the one who sent this end. And I stand by every word. We are about truth and this is how I feel. We cannot ostracize a people because of a “what if”. I am convinced AIDS is man made and believe we are all victims to this blight on mankind. I urge all whom are practicing sex to be careful and protect themselves. Gay or otherwise. But I cannot accept one is more to blame than the other. Promiscuity is prevalent in both sexes. I feel infowars should provide the relevant evidence and its source, or retract the original article. This could have a backlash on the Gay community if Watson’s article gets in the hands of the extreme right minded people.
(This is a default signature on all outgoing mail)
April 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
If you are a straight man who doesn’t use drugs and you test positive for HIV antibodies, they will retest you time and again until you test negative. If you are a gay man who tests positive, they will immediately label you as an “AIDS patient” There are over 65 things that can cross-react with HIV antibody tests, including pregnancy where women build up antibodies before giving birth.
HIV testing is a total SCAM!
April 17th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
It is really too bad that anal sex does not cause one’s penis to rot and fall off like a scab.
This would solve the entire debate.
The anus is NOT a sex organ, it’s for passing bodily waste, feces and for flies to lay eggs on if one keeps it exposed.
This is a no brainer.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
What about taking blood from all the closeted gays like Larry Craig, Haggerty the preacher, and the millions of men who have sex with men but would never call themselves gay or even admit they have sex with men. What are you going to do with their blood and would you take it, or would you even know. Proper testing of blood should be the rule not asking questions of people who will lie about or are in denial about their behavior.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
You’re an IDIOT David Sherlock. An absolute agent idiot.
The point is that NO ONE should be arrested or fined for what they believe or what they write (unless they are in prestigious and heavily influential positions of power).
There is no partial acceptance of “Hate Crimes”. THEY ARE ALL BULLSHIT!
Grow up and leave Watson alone. If you don’t like what he wrote THAN DON’T READ IT! That simple. How old are you anyway. Did the article make you cry?
Look how much Watson has done for this movement…and he is spot-on 98% of the time. Why would you do this to him you Nazi piece of trash?
GET A LIFE (or at least get off of the Federal Payroll)! You only enhance this type of ridiculous prosecution you moron.
Joe
April 17th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Yes you right. Who borne first? The egg or the chiken?
Those issue is so Medivel I cant stand on this… how dare people are? Judge good people because they like this or that.
This isseu does not belong ours reality now…
It is so patetic
As sson you need blood you will never be the same because you will wait for the rest of your life find out that you got some kind of crap?
And the THEOCRACY will send us to hell.
WAKE UP AMERICA
April 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
all this proselytizing is social disapproval. it is the masses reacting in a preconditioned way to a subject with which they must be politically correct. i thought it was a good article and did not detect any amount of hatred.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Homosexuality is destructive, but so are lies, drugs, or hard liquors. I dont hate homosexuals, what is bothering me is this insane agenda to make this kind of behavior normal. It is not. Period. Do what you want in your bedroom and stop pushing this lifestyle in our faces. what is it with this gay pride, gay games, gay raves? Homosexuality is not a sexual orientation, homosexuality is a sexual perversion. A man should not sleep with another man, a woman should not sleep with another woman, it is wrong. But as I said, so are lies. I am not better than an homosexual because I like woman, and I am in the wrong when I lie, but so his one man that sleep with another. We all do evil, let’s just admit it. Those who hate homosexuals do so because they only see them as *homos*, but they are also friends, brothers, sisters. The ones who serve hate will always find flaws in people to excuse themselve and not extand that helping hand. Homosexuals should not give blood because they are most likely to contract aids. This is not hate, it his common sense.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
People like 157 are the reason why this movement will eventually NOT work, do you think that redneck backwards mentality will bring in younger people to be awaken?
The Internet Generation i.e. Generation Y (which BTW can be easily awaken if properly shown what is going on) WILL NEVER join a movement that sprouts hatred on a specific group of people based on race, gender or Sexual orientation.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Paul Watson’s article is actually NWO propaganda, though I doubt he realizes this yet. I don’t fault Paul Watson for drawing a comparison between homosexual behavior and AIDS, but only a small percentage of gay men develop AIDS, and this is a result of extremely high drug use, (poppers, speed, coke, junk etc. ) The CDC knew this back in 1982 long before the HIV announcement in 1984.
The real problem with this article is that is spreads more HIV=AIDS propaganda, that is proven false and instills fear into people’s thinking based on NWO agendas that came from Robert Gallo and the Rockefeller funded Cold Spring Harbor eugenics bastards. HIV is a fraud! Paul Watson should be explaining that, instead of perpetuating more junk science and fear.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
with all these ppl saying it’s time to fight back, why isn’t anyone fighting back? with the millions of americans out there that i have heard/seen/read talking about “the evil empire” i’m amazed that no one is doing anything except posting comments on sites. maybe it’s time for us to put up or shut up.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
The issue has nothing to do with the provenance of HIV/AIDS, but instead the fallacious logic of the position Mr. Watson rightfully criticized. It’s a no-brainer.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Ha ha, this is so ridiculous. I am a GAY man, born this way, and I have nothing to do with the gay community. I lived in SF and yes, it is very very true, some gays want to get HIV. Why? Because of the money, free housing etc and of course the drugs. This is a fact. I knew some gays that all they wanted to do was become HIV+. I kid you not!
I can not speak for these brain dead people here in Dallas, but for sure in SF. Dallas people are the most dumb downed people I have ever been around. No wonder the neocons love this place!
I am telling all my gay and NON gay friends to SUPPORT infowars.com and Alex Jones and also Paul Joseph Watson. Not all gays are what the media presents them or us to be. Many of us, such as myself, have nothing to do with the Socialist Gay society, where we have gay rags telling us how to live, how to vote etc.
And Alex has many many gay fans and supporters. I have been a fan for 5 years, met Alex and purchased many many movies from infowars, as well as 2 short wave radios. If you live in the Oak Lawn area, I am the guy wearing the black “infowars.com” hat around, and I have had many comments, or compliments from gays as well as straights about my infowars hat.
Alex, please do not hold back on any gay issues!
and Thank you for your great service to our country!
April 17th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
It’s completely ridiculous for anyone to suggest that Paul Watson should face any form of punishment for writing the article. The fool who claims that the article is equally as offensive as an Adolph Hitler speech apparently doesn’t know the history of Adolph Hitler and is just spewing his thoughts directly out of his ass.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
PEOPLE IN THIS SITE ARE GOING IN THE WRONG WAY
YOU SHOULD BE PROUD THE GAY COMMUNIT ASSUMED THEY ARE GAY
BECAUSE THE EVIL ONE ARE THE ONES WHO STILL USING A MUSTACH AND GOING OUT MAKING THEM SELF FAR FROM THEM WAVIES
April 17th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
homosexual lobby groups in my country australia are trying desperately to get the terms mummy and daddy and mother and father out of the school state corriculums because its offensive to homosexuals I am not kidding it was on the mainstream news last night even the presenters looked shocked …..
April 17th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
170 hit the head on the nail! Because that’s exactly how I’ve been feeling about Jones recently….he seems to MIX NWO facts with personal issues that he has (the homophobia is one of them).
if the divisiveness continues then the movement will eventually SPLIT.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
This incident is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to shut down 9/11 Truth. Truthers must get even louder and make even more noise and MASSIVELY mirror this article all over the web as well as the original HIV/AIDS article written by Watson.
Most likely this incident was either instigated by a totally brainwashed, politically correct sheep, a CENTCOM COINTELPRO operative or one of their counterparts at Scotland Yard or MI6.
Any attempts to shut us up will never work. All you NWO types monitoring this board and trying to shut us down have already lost, you just don’t know it yet.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
175 I hope you’re kidding, because you’re embodying everything wrong and stereotypical about this movement with your PARANOIA!
April 17th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Good on you Paul Watson for telling it like it is! Factuality is not libel and people who engage in homosexual behavior should be ashamed for trying to curtail our freedom of speech – especially when it has to do with FACTS about matters of life and death. We “breeders” have rights too and those who enjoy sodomy and their closeted hypocrite lying murderous scum political allies in office are going to have to come to terms with that.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I work with doctors, research scientists and HIV positive around the world who know now that HIV is NOT the cause of AIDS. I am also very involved in the 911 truth movement. I find that about 80% of the people who know that HIV is a fraud are aware that 911 was an Inside job, BUT—only about 20% of the people in 911 Truth movement know that HIV/AIDS is a fraud too.
The 911 Truth people are catching on, but it is taking time. I wish Alex Jones and company would get on board with the truth about HIV=AIDS being a complete scam. We really need him! watch a free 20 minute video on the subject here: Http://www.aidsfraudvideo.com
April 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
There has been love between the same sex since civilization began, how in the world can some of these people still sprout such hatred based on these facts?
Just because some NWO scums are bi/gay does not mean ALL LBGT people are NWO, that is just paranoia and utter idiocy.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
You choose to stick your cock in your boyfriends ass ron “deary”, don’t feed me this bullshit that you were born that way. Disgusting creatures that you all are.. fuck all of you and you’re perverted ways. Next, you sick pricks are going to push that fucking fido is cool too..not hurting anyone you’ll say. You can paint your lifestyle any color you want, only the pushovers are buying your bull. BTW Jones, your guest today looks like a flamer.
You’re not a closet cock sucker are ya?
April 17th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Aids is not a bioweapon. HIV does not cause AIDS. The drugs they give you when they tell you, you are HIV positive cause AIDS. Many of the worlds top scientists support this view.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Sound like ButchTinkerbellsDropDead is the closet case here. Hate to see a Gay guy happy? Your remarks indicate a very angry person. Vent your anger.
And you dont have to come out to the socialist Gay community. You can be your own man, something you need to understand.
ButchTinkerbellsDropDead, meet “Reality” he could be your best friend!
April 17th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Right, lets put this in perspective. The risk of HIV will increase by 50%? The risk of catching HIV from a transfusion is 1 in 2,135,000. So the risk would increase to 1.5 in 2,135,000.
Big Deal! I can live with those odds, given that one pint of donated blood can save up to 3 lives.
All donated blood in the UK is screened for HIV anyway, then ultra-heat treated just to be on the safe side.
Anyone who wants to donate is fine by me. PJW needs to grow up and give up this ‘divide & conquer’ stuff that plays straight into the hands of the NWO.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
To #19: Yeah it’s probably NWO intimidation, much like how the Zionists created the Nazi Empire and built the Nazi death camps, and they call you a Nazi if you expose that. Plus, thoughtcrime laws would prevent people from exposing how Barney Frank likes young boys. To me, Barney Frank and every sodomite in government is more of a national security risk than the potential pedophiles on Main Street. In essence, hate crime laws are TOTALLY meant to imprison people who question things such as 9/11, 7/7, Oklahoma City, Columbine, the assassinations of the Kennedys, the assassination of MLK, and every other government black-op.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Ian is a lieing Idiot. AIDS is caused by HIV and the idiots who are out there and trying to tag a “AIDS Truth” sticker on themselves are nothing more than usefull idiots for the brainwashed patriots who want 9/11 truth dead, and companies that would love to have a bunch more HIV infected people who depend on their drugs to keep them alive. HIV is Real and it’s relationship to AIDS has been proven since 1996 when the new drugs that fight “your imaginary” HIV now keep AIDS patients alive and well. That is as long as you take the drugs. All Watson has done is written an article that puts truth above lies and shills and political correctness once again.
I would prefer to not get HIV. Watson hits another Homer.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
David Sherlock,
I can see you missed the point entirely. I would explain it to you but you you would probably just go off on a tangent until you found sanctity in some false rationale.
To the rest,
The problem is the establishment in England are just like the establishment in the United States; they are all inbred, power hungry, psychotic cereal killers. Paul Joseph Watson is enemy number one on their list. The NWO are constantly examining ways to discredit him and even imprison him my friend. Thats the point Mr. Sherlock. Our brother in truth is under heavy enemy fire and your acting like one of his detractors. Instead of supporting a friendly under fire, you have chosen to turn your guns on him!
You really need to set aside your personal beliefs and see the situation for what it is. Don’t blind yourself with irrational thoughts and feelings. Take a deep breath and consider that maybe you jumped the gun on this one. Next time think before you take your lips for a walk in the wrong neighborhood. If you want to criticize and in fight go else where. Some of us have real battles to fight.
As far as Paul Joseph Watson’s current situation, my advice would be, get the information out as quick as possible until it reaches viral status. Start talking to lawyers now if you think this is going to be a serious problem that can not be resolved by exposing it for what it is. They obviously want to spin your article’s message and use it against you, so I say, as usual, we use it against them.
If any member of the NWO falsely imprisons any one in this movement it will only make us stronger. I can speak for myself as well as hundreds of thousands of people when I say, ” If you incarcerate one of the leaders of this movement, we will spread the truth faster than the sniffles during flu season.” If you frame, set up or kill any of the leaders in this movement we will never stop exposing your criminal activity to the world. You can kill a couple hornets unnoticed, but if you go for the hives queen we will swarm you relentlessly. I myself will commit to just four hours of sleep per night and spend every waking hour passing out DVD’s, putting up infowars.com stickers and banners, passing out business cards with websites exposing the truth,computer printouts(Operation North Woods, PD 51, The John Warner Defense Authorization Act and many more) we will go to town meetings and ask real questions, we will confront every sell out, trader and murderer in this corrupt system and expose them.
I would advice against any attacks on Mr.Watson by the establishment. Consider your self warned British Parliament. ” If you imprison this man, you will awaken a sleeping giant unlike anything the world has ever seen.
We are the moral and righteous protectors of the innocence you exploit world wide. YOU, the establishment sociopaths are criminals with a complete history of criminal activity ranging from child kidnapping, assassination, to genocide. The world is watching you as the revolution of the last free thinkers defeats you lawfully and swiftly. We are not evil, you are evil. We are not criminals, you are the criminals. So unless you want all of us working over time, I suggest you leave this man alone to do whats right.
This is a message from all infowarriors world wide,” If you imprison Paul Joseph Watson, we will NEVER STOP exposing your crimes, and we will work day and night like never before.” I would rethink your plan of attack before you piss off a million or so angry truthers.
Paul Joseph Watson, no matter what happens with this, just know we’ve got your back brother.
BTW: I’m on the infonetwork as well. My user name is Krypke. If anyone would like to discuss this further contact me.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
To #41: Those are not Jews. Those are Zionists, aka Jewish Uncle Toms.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Keep it up stars someone might hear you and do some independent research. Just as sure as the twin towers was controlled demolition HIV is benign and any connection to so called aids is manufactured consent. I can’t believe how quickly this discussion has degenerated into ” I’m not a fag your a fag ,you fag loving fag, you have tainted blood”.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Not to mention that blood transfusions are not even necessary, since a french doctor proved during WWII that he could substitute filtered processed sea water with equivalent results in saving lives and doing surgery as with using blood. Why hasn’t the world adopted that free and safe method? Sounds like another coverup to me!
April 17th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Way to go, ace. Pick a fight with the gay community. That’s the way to present a united front. This is one more instance of a major problem at Infowars/PrisonPlanet: the residual hatred of gay sex left over from the jejune culture wars.
You suggest that gay love and sex are unnatural new assaults on tradition, along the lines of genetic engineering. But the previous commenter is right that gay sex and same-sex love go back to the beginning of civilization. What’s more, gay & lesbian love pre-date civilization and are integral parts of human sexuality that have been actively surpressed for thousands of years.
You think gays are a threat to 9/11 justice? That’s laughably insane. What about Margaret Cho? Rosie O’Donnell? What do you say to all these gay people, famous or not, who are fighting for 9/11 Truth and against the globalists?
You think gay culture is an outcropping of NWO mind control. Guess what? All culture is! But “gay culture” is not some monolithic program cooked up by George Soros. It is as varied and different as straight culture. There are many gay bars where “Infowars” and/or “9/11 Was an Inside Job” are scrawled across the walls. Go check out Metropolitan in Brooklyn to see what I mean.
You think gay sex and gay love are anti-Christian? Then why the fuck didn’t Jesus bother to say anything about it when he was here on earth? Why was it left to be debated by the supposedly wise church elders for hundreds of years? And what about the love of David and Jonathan?
If you here at Infowars are going to create the distinction that gay people, atheists and liberals are all NWO, based on your own culture wars baggage, I say fuck you. We’re not all Christians, we’re not all conservative and we’re not all straight. If YOU make those into requirements, then YOU are dividing the 9/11 Truth Movement, Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson, and YOU are responsible for the strategic failures that result.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
I have a solution to the whole problem. Donate blood with the stipulation that it is for your use only in the event that you may need it. I don’t want anybody’s blood in my body who eats meat. That should piss a whole lot of people off.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
geez… don’t even worry about HIV, it doesn’t cause AIDS.. Lots of things cause AIDS, but HIV is completely harmless and there are probably people here who were born before the disease broke out and have had HIV their whole life and don’t even know it.
Look up Peter Duesberg, he is a professor at Berkeley and has specialized in retro-viruses his whole life.. he’s been trying to make his argument public for decades with NO media attention.. and you KNOW what no media attention means, it means we may have something here.. I’ve looked into his case, it is solid. Checkout HIV = AIDS: Fact or Fraud, it lays out the whole thing.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Regarding Paul Joseph Watson’s current situation
If any member of the NWO falsely imprisons any one in this movement it will only make us stronger. I can speak for myself, as well as hundreds of thousands of people when I say, ” If you incarcerate one of the leaders of this movement, we will spread the truth faster than the sniffles during flu season.” If you frame, set up, or kill any of the leaders in this movement, we will never stop exposing your criminal activity to the world. You can kill a couple hornets unnoticed, but if you go for the hives queen we will swarm you relentlessly. I myself will commit to just four hours of sleep per night and spend every waking hour passing out DVD’s, putting up infowars.com stickers and banners, passing out business cards with websites exposing the truth,computer printouts(Operation North Woods, PD 51, The John Warner Defense Authorization Act and many more) we will go to town meetings and ask real questions, we will confront every sell out, trader and murderer in this corrupt system and expose them.
I would advice against any attacks on Mr.Watson by the establishment. Consider your self warned British Parliament. ” If you imprison this man, you will awaken a sleeping giant unlike anything the world has ever seen.
We are the moral and righteous protectors of the innocence you exploit world wide. YOU, the establishment sociopaths are criminals with a complete history of criminal activity ranging from child kidnapping, assassination, to genocide. The world is watching you as the revolution of the last free thinkers defeats you lawfully and swiftly. We are not evil, you are evil. We are not criminals, you are the criminals. So unless you want all of us working over time, I suggest you leave this man alone to do whats right.
This is a message from all infowarriors world wide,” If you imprison Paul Joseph Watson, we will NEVER STOP exposing your crimes, and we will work day and night like never before.” I would rethink your plan of attack before you piss off a million or so angry truthers.
Paul Joseph Watson, no matter what happens with this, just know we’ve got your back brother.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
This article may not be hate speech, but it sure is tasteless and moronic.
Your devisive tactics may indeed blow up in your faces, folks.
This is only going to drive huge numbers of free thinkers away from your reporting, for fear of being lumped together with your extremist views on sexual rights.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
I think you miss the point 214. EVERYONE should be concerned about tainted blood, straight, gay or whatever. This article in no way “picks a fight with the gay community”. It points out that our govt. is using political correct extremism to advance a policy that puts us all at a hightened risk for infection, this is true no matter what your sexual persuasion. If these gay rights groups had a modicum of credibility they would take the lead in fighting both legislation that pushes this nonsense and the unfair demonizing of Watson for basically stating the facts and telling the truth. People, get over yourselves. This fight will only be won if were all on the same page, get your fucking shit together. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
See also
http://www.redcross.org/servic.....0.html#pie
for more common sense!
April 17th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Hey Joe, you offended? Get this, we don’t need you faghags or faghag enablers in the war against the gov/corporate oppressors, anyhow. You stretched out anal retentive types aren’t worth a shit in a fire-fight…although fucking you as you lie in the foxhole isn’t without certain merit were I so inclined. The right index finger is for pulling a trigger, not inserting in your boyfriends asshole.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Alex’s views on gays are more Himler than Hitler when you do the reading. I would think most gays would want to ban together against the NWO with him anyways, but he wont let them in his club lol.
These fags are not to be messed with, Alex might like to brag about how he prefers masculine men over feminine ones (that makes him a bottom) but I’ve seen a fair amount of drag queens kick some ass, literally and figuratively. This article is a great example, and the joke’s on him now for several times a week saying “have you seen those guys? They’re really weak and effeminate”. Looks like you’re the bitch now Alex.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I don’t understand Watson’s position. So what if the gay population are more likely to acquire HIV. Isn’t the blood tested?
April 17th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Hey I’m gay, and I have no problem with Alex being homophobic, if he is, he’s an individual like the rest of us. this is the very thing that is dividing us, and the very thing that the elitist fucks want, is for their to be division, especially in the resistance. We need to drop these character attacks and work together to fight this world crisis that is becoming terrifying as it unfolds everyday. Alex is a messanger, and I’m listening to you Alex, there are bigger things to worry about then beign gay or homophobia. Ron Paul has said this in so many words.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Oh SickofQueers,
You sound very experienced. Seems a lot of closet cases come on this site. Its ok, we LOVE you!
Hoping SickofQueers gets his man! You need it butch!
An obvious homo hate closet case, you have given yourself away girlfriend, haters are always 100% queer. Get some help, get some support and vent that anger, loverboy!
Everyone loves you SickofQueers! Learn to love yourself and your sexuality!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
So, if I don’t like something written in an article, I can & should call the police? What kind of BS is this? This seems wwaaaaaay out of line…what kind of weak minded, immature, moron would tell on big brother over an article? I would suggest Mr. Watson should move to the US where there is more freedom than England.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Alan Cantwell MD is a retired physician and cancer researcher who believes cancer is caused by bacteria and AIDS is man-made.
In 1984 (the year HIV was discovered), his book AIDS: The Mystery and the Solution was published, showing the presence of cancer-associated bacteria in this syndrome. And in 1990, The Cancer Microbe:
http://www.heyokamagazine.com/.....ell.MD.htm
April 17th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Right on 225 Freedomislogic!!!
You know your name really is fitting! Why cant people see this logic!
Everyone else seems to ignore the facts and want to make it a hate thing when it clearly isnt!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Look, its obvious to me what Alex’s views are on this, and he’s definitely not PC, but should that matter? He’s said himself that he’s a Christian, and in the Bible it states that Homosexuality is an “abomination”, and he should be free to voice those opinions, just as homosexuals should be able to voice theirs. What’s happening in England is terrible, and don’t be surprised it comes here. I personally don’t think it has anything to do with with sexual orientation, but the elite’s desire to whittle away our rights, free speech and otherwise. We all really need to stop bickering over irrelevant issues like this and focus on what all agree on, that freedom is being destroyed, and the NWO will use any issue to get what they want.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Watson calls homosexuality immoral in his article. Where do you go from there? Rosie O’ Donnell has been featured on this site as a brave 911 truth advocate. Using Watsons thinking, if she’s immoral, why should anyone care what she thinks and why should she or any other homosexual be featured on this site as being on “our side”?
April 17th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
I’m gay, and I think this issue is so stupid it is beyond belief. In NO way whatsoever did I find Paul Joseph Watson’s article to be offensive. It’s common sense, for Christ’s sake.
The reaction of the Bitch, Britain is pure lunacy. “Hate Laws,” are just political excuses to erode our freedoms of speech. Whatever happened to “sticks and stones may brake my bones, but names will never hurt me?” I’ve been called a fag, and much worse – but I do not think for one second that the people who said it should be prosecuted for “hate speech.” Who in the hell am I to judge? Who are you to judge? The British government can go straight to hell and kiss my white American ass. Politically correct communist $uckers….that’s evil!
And btw, to all the Bible thumpers…there was/is no word for “gay,” or “homosexual,” or “heterorsexual,” in the original Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic languages. The notion of hetero, bi, and homosexual as catagories is a rather new concept. The “gay,” Bible stories of Jonathan and David, or Naomi and Ruth are never mentioned….gee, I wonder why? Because God does not hate gay people….but if all people knew this we couldn’t be divided and sliced up into factions to squabble amongst ourselves.
I’m a Christian, but I’m wiser to know that the original words have been twisted and turned over centuries by people who seek to divide and conquer. But if people still want to spout off about the Bible saying homosexuality is a sin, so be it. It’s your right to be ignorant. And it’s PJ Watson’s absolute God given right to express his common sense views about the HIV tainted blood. We are dealing with politically correct communist thugs here…they are not interested in “gay rights.”
For anyone with a functional brain, it’s obvious that the British government is using this issue to further their agenda of ending free speech.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
we are talking about one man sucking another mans dick or sticking his dick in a mans ass hole.
Its not GAY Or HOMO its wrong! Its A Perverted sickness or mental illness! We live in some really evil times! Dont be fooled by the masses! Most people are going to HELL!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Yes nevermind the elitists are poisoning us everyday, nevermind they are ripping the constitution into shreds, nevermind corporate america tells you what to do, NEVERMIND the elite trying to wipe out 80% of the world population to acquire advanced technology to live forever!, we’re still fighting a moot battle over homophobia and homosexuality, A BATTLE THAT WAS STAGED BY THE ELITE THEMSELVES to distract us from what they are doing!, Don’t fall back asleep people!, I may be fluoridated but I do know what the real issues are, and this is not one of them.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
#232 NeuAmerican, No, you are not a Christian when you bash the Bible. You are a “fake” Christian. The Bible is clear that a sodomite will not go to Heaven and will be in Hell unless he repents (turns from his sin), and puts his faith and trust in the merits if Jesus Christ. You are on your way to Hell and you are taking people with you.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
It is definitely proving to be the end times. In the end times right will be wrong and wrong will be right!
Targetmaster Cyclonus it sounds like you are a fag! Do you really believe your girly men can beat up Real men? This is not the first time I have heard this statement, however I have never been to any place to see these Rambo faggots in action! However if you get enough people together can overpower anybody! Just look at the super not tough cops, there’s one supposively bad guy unarmed and 30 armed cops freaking out! Most Real men would fight to the death before they got beaten by a faggot! How tough will they be when there cast into a devils hell?
This has everything to do with public health, anybody that can’t see that is under demonic control!
REPENT OR BURN IN HELL, it’s your call!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Are we going to be divided by such pettyness? This is utterly ridiculous that there are people here that are full of hatred and so rampant on a situation that should not be an issue.
Meanwhile while all of this is happening The NWO shills are plotting, this is exactly what they want! As I said before, people should put away their petty differences, cut the bullshit and get with it and unite against the NWO!
Otherwise, you can forget about this movement ever become a reality! You think I am going to be in a movement where such hatred (coming from what is supposedly ‘Freedom Fighters”) is spewed?
April 17th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
The point that everyone seems to be missing is that, as it stands, the ban has nothing to do with HIV and everything to do with the notion that gays are “offensive”. While I believe Watsons heart is in the right place in not wanting to let HIV tainted blood into the donor pool, he misses the point that statisitcally more lives could be saved by increasing the amount of donors available than will be lost through tainted blood transfusions. The blood is screened ofcourse.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Also, NeuAmerican Sodomite, Don’t twist the Bible to back your sin. Jonathan and David were not “Homo’s” , and Naomi and Ruth were not “Lesbo”s”.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
no man shall lay with a man as a man lies with a woman. something like that. but #231 is putting words in Watsons mouth. This is a matter of MEDICAL SAFETY! NOT MORALITY! WOULD YOU PUT COW BLOOD IN THE BLOOD SUPPLY OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH MADCOW!? NO! BECAUSE ITS DANGEROUS! SAME HERE! When a group of people known to have HIV are Restricted from giving Blood ITS A GOOD THING! I DON’T WANT A 10 YEAR OLD WHO NEEDS BLOOD TO EVEN RUN A RISK OF CATCHING HIV!
IN AN ABSOLUT MADNESS! GOD HELP US!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
You try to help people, but they don’t want to be help. Maybe the elite have the right idea.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
NeuAmerica YOUR NOT A CHRISTIAN, you are under demonic control! REPENT AND CHANGE YOUR WAYS! God loves even the sinner, but to continue to sin is Blasphemy against God! REPENT REPENT, REPENT!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Yeah guys, whatever you do in the privacy of your own home….YOUR BUSINESS!!! The blood thing is right, if you take cocaine and share a note to snort it, you cant give blood either because it burst blood vessals in the nose and someone with hiv (especially someone newly infected because their viral load is much higher) can pass it on using the note. It doesnt show up in blood tests for three months so obviously the laws are just a safeguard. Whether being gay is a choice or not is irrelevant, the consequence of partaking in it (as my snorting cocaine example) means you shouldnt give blood. it isnt hate its common sense. Respect to neuamerica hes tellin it like it is, people always twist things to push their own agenda its amazing that people on here are naive enough to believe that a book thats nearly two thousand years old hasnt been altered to push an agenda aswell. wouldnt logic dictate that?? And anyone who finds the thought of doing anything sexual with someone of the same sex is disgusting GOOD NEWS!! you dont have to do it, so chill out!!!! I by the way am not gay, but i have known for some time that A: life is too short to try to stop other people living their lives the way they want to, i think that idea has a name, what is it now, oh yeah freedom. and B: people who are homophobic overwhelmingly have repressed homosexual tendencies, like that guy we all knew who always talked about sex, never got any. The guy thats goes on about how disgusting faggots are is most likely trying to divert attention.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
RE: Post #231 Truth Lantern Says: Watson calls homosexuality immoral in his article….
No he doesn’t. Although as a Christian, he probably believes homosexuality is immoral.
In context, the article says:
“In January 2006, an Oxford University student who said to a police officer, “Excuse me, do you realise your horse is gay?” was arrested and taken to court for making homophobic remarks. Any comments that cause “harassment, alarm or distress” are now illegal. Most gay people would be “distressed” to hear that their lifestyle is neither moral or healthy and so an advocate of that view would be subject to arrest for expressing an opinion.”
April 17th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
There is a certain amount of hypocrisy being spew in here, people go on and on how they want to fight the NWO for freedom…and yet here they are spewing hatred and oppression. They are no better then the NWO!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
#243, The KJV Bible is backed up by many old manuscripts that say the same thing, it has not changed. You can put your trust in it.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
We fight the evil subjugators who kick the crutch from under the leg of the cripple Says:
Respect to neuamerica hes tellin it like it is, people always twist things to push their own agenda its amazing that people on here are naive enough to believe that a book thats nearly two thousand years old hasnt been altered to push an agenda aswell. wouldnt logic dictate that?? And anyone who finds the thought of doing anything sexual with someone of the same sex is disgusting
This is not telling it the way it is! This has always been sin and always will be sin, that is the way it is! REPENT REPENT REPENT!
This is the end times people don’t even know right from wrong! REPENT
April 17th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
SHAW Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
There is a certain amount of hypocrisy being spew in here, people go on and on how they want to fight the NWO for freedom…and yet here they are spewing hatred and oppression. They are no better then the NWO!
What’s the 20 on oppression?
April 17th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Mabe the UK government want aids to increase through the population. Explains the attack on him.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
#245 Shaw, If you cannot tell the difference between people’s free speech and the NWO trying to kill us all, you are an idiot.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Right On Robert, HIV has NEVER been proven to cause AIDS and now studies prove it does not! We are finally starting to see more people who are in the 911 Truth Movement realize that HIV is a complete fraud and a complete act of government sponsored terrorism, that impels fear into the masses, over a boogie man virus that drive them crazy. Look at the statistics from the CDC. Visit http://www.rethinkingaids.com and look at the list of Rethinkers now that are over 2,580 doctors and research scientists that dispute the HIV=AIDS hypothesis.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
There is a $50,000 dollar REWARD for anyone who has PROOF HIV causes AIDS. It has been posted now for almost 10 years and now one has claimed it. Go to http://www.aliveandwell.org to see this offer! There is no proven scientific paper that ever met this demand. Alive and Well is comprised of many HIV positive people (many who are NOT gay) who don’t take the toxic drugs and have lived with HIV for over 15 years and are healthy, while they watched their friends believe this SHIT and die of liver failure.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Preacher, the difference is clear. My point was that spewing your hatred (and the free speech argument does not negate the fact that is in fact HATRED being spewed!).
If you disagree with people because they are gay, that’s fine… nobody is forcing you to be around them. But there is that and then there is the hate filled comments here.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
246 first off you totally disregard the possibility of mistranslation for instance translating walk as foot or sun as heat is a simple example. secondly the bible was edited by the catholic church and alot of manuscripts that could be argued are just as important were never included. those were not included in any subsequent bible of other forms of christianity either so your point isnt exactly true. regardless of what ive just said the main and most important point must be is that Im pretty sure you have never actually read these “old manuscripts” you speak of im also pretty sure you couldnt translate them either so you dont really know that they say the same thing do you? Dont get me worng if reading the bible gives you a good nights sleep, then im all for it. Just dont be abusing neuamerica over it, hes entitled to his opinion and calling him a sodomite is just low, for example you have no idea if he is a sodomite for all you know he could be a catamite!!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
#254 Shaw, Warning people that the Bible says their sin will send them to a burning Hell forever if they don’t turn from their sin is not hate. Making fun of people and cutting them down because you don’t like them because they are different than you would be hate.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
3 WORDS FOR ALL OF YOU’s…………..”NEW WORLD ORDER”
April 17th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Preacher i assume you meant 253. because you totally didnt answer any of my points. You actually have a point neuamerica does refer to himself as a christian so as a fellow christian you do have a right to preach to him. What you say is only hatful if he werent a christian, because then you be intolerant to someone elses beliefs. You do have to respect that other peoples beliefs systems are different then yours and they arent lost or in need of saving they are happy as they are. If you can do that then preach til your face turns blue and more power to ya
April 17th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
3 WORDS FOR ALL OF YOU’s…………..”NEW WORLD ORDER”
OPEN YOUR EYE’s MANKIND!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
#254, There are two lines of manuscripts. One line comes from Alexanderia, Egypt. Another line of manuscripst comes from Antioch, Syeria, this is where they were first called Christians. This is the line where the KJV Bible comes from, the other line is the Catholic manuscripts. No, I have never seen origional manuscripts, but we do have the internet to compair manuscripts. Yes, I have compaired manuscripts.
NeuAmerica said he was gay in #232, the Bible says sodomite.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
SHAW Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Preacher, the difference is clear. My point was that spewing your hatred (and the free speech argument does not negate the fact that is in fact HATRED being spewed!).
If you disagree with people because they are gay, that’s fine… nobody is forcing you to be around them. But there is that and then there is the hate filled comments here.
No, gays are always PUSHING on the straight people! Do I start a statement like “I’M STRAIGHT AND HAVE 5 CHILDREN” no I don’t, and nobody does! The gays always start a statement with “THEIR GAY”! The reason is they KNOW it is SIN, and anybody in SIN wants others around them to justify their SIN! You know it is WRONG, and you need to REPENT! You don’t need to REPENT, but I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes, justifying why you are Gay to GOD at the Perily Gates!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
#257, A true Bible preacher preaches to all. Christians and sinners.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Shaw,
Although I agree that we need to cut out the hate and just express our opinions without belittling each other, I disagree with your comment: “If you disagree with people because they are gay, that’s fine… nobody is forcing you to be around them.”
We all are being forced to be around that type of lifestyle. And I think that is why some people have the hatred they do. I’m not saying they are right for having that hatred, but when you have homosexual rights shoved down your throat everyday via television shows, news, articles, etc., people get tired of it. But if someone says that the Bible speaks against homosexuality, suddenly they are hate mongers. Or if someone who may not believe in the Bible, but just thinks homosexuality is wrong, they are considered ignorant.
As I said earlier, let’s just post facts and our own opinions in a kind fashion, and leave the name calling for children to learn not to do. But please don’t act like you are calling for freedom for all, but then harass people for believing in the Lord. And it’s not just you. There are many on here who seem to think freedom is a one-way street. If freedom can’t be for everyone, then there is no real freedom.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
New World Order and Fags – what do they have in common? That’s easy, Freemasonry is a sex cult. They also believe in the phrase “As above, as below.” This means that they defile everything that God has created. In the Bible it is quite clear. Homosexuality is an abomination before God. For this very reason, God has destroyed Sodom and Gomora. The “Gay Rights” activist are the ones who are offensive. They go around and have these disgusting “Love Parades” in American and European major cities. Even worse, they now even adopt children! Would you want your kids to be with such perverts? I certainly don’t.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
the internet compares translated manuscripts so thats not exactly a brilliant argument, and the internet only helps the prcess of things being mistranslated, misrepresented, or taken out of context not hinder it. Sodomite doesn’t mean gay preacher, the actual original definition is partaking in anal or oral copulaton. Usually in common usage meaning anal, but you can sodomise a woman too. anyway you missed the joke a catamite in modern usage refers to someone who takes it rather than gives if you know what i mean. It stems from the greeks who used to keep little boys for buttsex also known as catamites!! tough crowd!!!LOL
April 17th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Letting sodomites adopt children is like giving cheese to rats.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
#264, They are not translated manuscripts, they are still in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Hey the religious folk here can do whatever they want (as long as it does not harm people or violates others’ rights) but if you think that gays or whatever other marginalized group will NOT fight back then think again.
If people here want this movement to work (and reach the masses) they are going to have to stop their divisive views. Because otherwise the movement won’t work to its full potential.
This is important, because say if a gay person wants to join the movement..should they be banned from doing so because they are gay? Completely ridiculous!
And I am from NYC and if there is a person that is thrusted onto different people, it’s me…I bet most of you who spill your hatred probably has never had a conversation with different gay people to know how diverse this oppressed minority is!
And if you religious folk think you will get Gen Yers to join this movement with such hatred being spilled, think again!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Ham Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Shaw,
Although I agree that we need to cut out the hate and just express our opinions without belittling each other, I disagree with your comment: “If you disagree with people because they are gay, that’s fine… nobody is forcing you to be around them.”
STATING THE TRUTH IS NOW CONSIDERED HATE! The end times are upon us!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
It will become wrong to speak out even if your right in a NWO society. When will people wake up to common sense but judging from what i see when i go out anymore there’s none left.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
SHAW Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Hey the religious folk here can do whatever they want (as long as it does not harm people or violates others’ rights) but if you think that gays or whatever other marginalized group will NOT fight back then think again.
That would be fine, but you won’t have God on your side! Without God you will lose! REPENT
April 17th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Mini14,
You are twisting what I said. Shaw was calling for all to drop the hatred, and I agree with him on that. I then went on to point out where I disagreed with him.
Why are you trying to start something by taking my words out of context? I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this posting starts to match the patter of a centcom agent. I wonder…
April 17th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Paul Joseph Watson is my new hero!!!!
every word of that article was factual , and if its against the law in england to speak the truth, then they need another Cromwell and a second “GLORIOUS REVOLUTION”!!!!!!
HOMOSEXUALITY=SIN, SIN=”THE WAGES OF DEATH” {YOU CANT PLAY WITH FIRE AND NOT GET BURNED .}GO AHEAD , STICK A NEEDLE IN YOUR ARM , GO WITH A PROSTITUTE, MURDER AND STEAL, LIE ECT ,…
EVERY ACTION HAS CONSEQUENCE , AND EVERY SINNER NEEDS A SAVIOUR !! TURN TO CHRIST AND BE SAVED FROM SIN AND DEATH !! BE FORGIVEN!!
April 17th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
#267, Shaw, People are always bashing the Bible, and Jesus Christ, and Christianty all over the comment sections and that don’t drive the Christians away. If people are looking for 9/11 truth they will not go away if they read something they dissagree with.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
#271 Ham, Mini14 is not an agent.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
With what Mini14 just posted about Shaw, I’m starting to think I was right that this person is just trying to get people riled up.
So I’ll try to undo what they are doing.
Shaw:
I think it is safe to say that we both agree that everyone should have the freedom to think what they like. And so I respect your opinion, even though I might disagree with you on somethings and whether you respect mine or not. But you sound like someone who, although passionate about what you believe (which is another thing I respect), can also realize that I am entitled to my opinion as well. So I hope I have not caused hard feelings, and thank you for taking the time to even read my posts. Hopefully we all can work together to turn down hatred.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I’m not twisting your words nor taking them out of context! You stated religious people! I am not religious, it was Satans greatest deception! I believe in God in the name of Jesus Christ! There will never be people joining together and the Bible shows it! The NWO will fail then the Beast will come!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
#275 Ham, You don’t really know what hate or love is. Trying to convince someone that what they are doing is sin, and that their sin will send them to a buring Hell is not hate but is love. If we said we wanted them to burn in Hell then that would be hate.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
To the genius who wrote saying that you were going to turn this article over to the police:
Homosexual behavior is dangerous to ones health, don’t be such a chump. It’s not hate speech, its truth, and I don’t want to be given tainted blood just because keeping the blood clean is offensive to ’some’. What is wrong with everyone these days? Frankly, I don’t think you are real, in fact I don’t think you are any more real than the “unidentified girl” who phoned cps from the lds compound. And to the others who would consider such facts “hate speech”, wake up. Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
While we’re on the subject of religion and religious freedom, why are there no articles here about what’s being done to the polygamous sect in Texas? Doesn’t the lack of coverage on this site seem strange to you?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Now using the Bible as a guide, people believe I’m an agent! The end times are upon us! God helpl us in the name of Jesus Christ!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
That’s why Marshall Law stole all guns from the slaves in the British Empire.
My mother in law was murdered by HIV/AIDS after a blood transfusion during bypass surgery at the hospital she worked at. The surgery probably wasn’t even required, since nutritional cures are banned in hospitals. HIV is a Pentagon bioweapon contracted by US Congress in July 1969.
So Mr Watson is attacking the govt bioweapon genocide program run by psychopathic serial killers. Of course homicidal maniacs will resist arrest.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
My main concern here is that eventually the enticing comments here will DRIVE AWAY potential people.
Now whether people here hate gays that’s another (and you bet your spiffy ass I will fight that!) but that is a battle for another day.
Right now I am concern with chemtrails, fluoride water, the economy, Codex Alimentarius, Corporations running wild, oppressive regimes ect
The last thing I want right now is to fight such petty long trail issues with the religious folk.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
polygamous sect in Texas? That is a TOTAL lie, the is the words of the PROPAGANDA media. How much longer before the lying news media is SUED!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Preacher,
I didn’t say that speaking the Truth about what God’s word says is hate. But calling people fags and saying that we should kill all gays is hate. And I didn’t say you particularly said that. Just as my original post didn’t state that I was speaking to people who were saying that they believe that homosexuality is wrong. Is anybody actually reading the posts before commenting?
Instead, I have agreed with Shaw that we stop the name calling, but have also pointed out to him and everyone else that even people who believe that the Bible states homosexuality is wrong are just exercising their freedom. I personally believe whole heartily that the Bible does show that homosexuality is wrong, but at the same time I respect people’s freedom to choose for themselves how to live their lives. Because when it’s all said and done, I can only answer to God for what I have done. And you can only answer for what you have done.
Try to at least read my posts first, before you start telling me that my viewpoint is wrong.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Teachers in daycare are not to be told if a child has AIDs to protect the child, but what about protecting the teachers. Teachers change the children’s dipers, wipe their noses and put themselves at risk. This kind of thinking is totally backwards and people should not give in to it.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
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SHAW Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
My main concern here is that eventually the enticing comments here will DRIVE AWAY potential people.
What I state will bring more! have you seen the number of cars at the IRS 501 C3 whore churches? The average American is HUNGARY FOR THE TRUTH!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Mini 14
what is a IRS 501 C3 whore churches?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
#285 Ham, Now you are clear on what you mean as hate.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Mini14,
I never said anything about “religion” in any of my posts, Shaw has. I have directly stated things such as “Lord”, “Bible”, etc.
And you may not be an agent, but you seem to like to spew rash comments, without really reading what anyone is actually trying to say.
I believe you sow discourse for a purpose. And that is to incite hate. If not, why have you not actually posted anything that is written with some type of logic and meaning?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Gay is not the central trait here. They are first and fore most retarded. Is it descrimination against children to not let 3 year olds drive a car? Mentally ill to own a shoulder fired missile? Is it descrimination to someone who fell off a balcony to put up a railing? Is it an insult to people who crashed at an intersection before a stop sign was there if one is put there?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
There is a good Bible preacher at “preaching freedom.com” Pastor Mike Slattery of Freedom Baptist Church. Many audio sermons to listen to.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
The thing about this article is where is his proof that gays are going to raise the infection rate?
Yeah, AIDS might have hit the gay community hard in the past, but it has been on a decline since then. Putting a blanket out there and saying that infection are going to increase, and then reporting it is fact is bad journalism.
Otherwise you might as just say that letting blacks give blood transfusions is bad practice because it is going to increase the AIDS infection rate.
For starters, most banks check there blood for diseases before they let it enter their blood system, so to suggest such things and incite hateful comments leaves a bad taste in this reviewers mouth.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I will call them SODOMITES as the Bible does just to be nice, but SIN IS SIN!
The dictionary calls Gay: informal homosexual. Anybody that states they are “GAY” on a public forum is not informal!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Preacher:
I agree with your thought that identifying children with AIDS should be done in order for the people who work closely with helping that child with bodily excretions to be aware that they have to protect themselves. However, I would hope that teachers who know this intimate knowledge would also not treat any child with AIDS as worthless.
Shaw:
I also agree about fighting the NWO. This divided response to many social issues is exactly what the NWO wants in order to quell strength in numbers.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Eli McGowan Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Mini 14
what is a IRS 501 C3 whore churches?
Do you listen to Alex Jones?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I’m homosexual, and read Paul Joseph Watson’s article, and was not offended. There is nothing wrong with questioning whether a higher risk group should be giving blood. It’s unfortunate, but gay men have brought this on themselves by not exhibiting more restraint in their sexual relations. What did offend me were the responses to the above editorial. How many people who are onto the elitist stealth agenda, and believe in the book of Revelations? I thought this site attracted people who were the freest of free thinkers, and who wanted to know the hard, empirically-backed truths about our world. Yet here we have readers who can question the 9-11 explanation (as they should), but can’t question the book of Leviticus, or Paul’s letter to the Romans? (Both declare male-male sexual/romantic relations wrong.) This site (I thought) observed empirically backed reasons to fear for a world-wide, elite-engineered “apocolypse”, and did not cater to atavistic wack jobs who think Jesus is waiting behind the moon ready to jump out at any moment.
Am I the only person bothered by this?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
The war greater than the NWO is the war about what is GOOD AND AGAINST EVIL!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Mini 14- No I don’t listen to it, but I read articles off of prisonplanet sometimes. What does it mean?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
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Jim Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I’m homosexual, and read Paul Joseph Watson’s article, and was not offended.
Just what I have been stating! How many people are engaged in this perverse activity?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/ the government tells the Church what it can, and can’t say! Jesus is not tax exempt, he is immune!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
#298 Jim, If you repent and put your faith in the merits of Christ then you would not be bothered by this.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Jim,
I’m sorry you feel that way about the Bible. But at the same time, I don’t think it is fair for you to belittle anyone who does believe the Bible.
I do often read the KJV Bible and I have had so many awe-inspiring moments with what I have read, that I believe it whole heartily. Actually, in knowing what the Bible says about the end-times is what awoke me to the fact that we are lied to everyday by our leaders, the MSM, etc.
I think someone who can open their mind up to at least try reading the Bible is a free thinker. Now I’m not saying you aren’t because of what you believe, I’m just trying to show that I believe you don’t understand what it takes to be a real Christian, which is being a free thinker.
And no, I’m not offended by the remarks about religion (okay Mini14, I finally used that term). But I am offended by the posts containing name calling, and down right ugliness of wanting people dead for what they believe in coming from both sides of the issue.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Mini, you aren’t even making sense. Either get your medication reconfigured, or shut the hell up.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Mini-thank you! Had never seen the term before.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
http://www.calltodecision.com/church_news.htm this will state it better!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
As far as I am concerned, religion is an agent of division and control. It was the first weapon of mass destruction ever created.
If god is all knowing and all powerful, then he can certainly have a conversation with the average human being without intermediaries are priest. In reality god surrounds us, and live within us.
So people saying that homosexuality is not gods will, and you will go to hell…. well, Hey why don’t we just stop fighting God’s wars for once and let he/she take care of them. If we all followed the rules of what is considered sin/non-sin, then we all would be in hell right now.
I am not gay, but I do know a few gay people, and for them it is not something that you could just turn on or off. It is who they are. We can go around killing people for who they are.
And people are really ignorant about AIDS too. Some people said that you can get it from changing a AIDS infected Kid’s diapers or from wiping their nose. It doesn’t pass that easily people.
Plus AIDS is a government made virus. Why don’t people question the government instead of questioning each other?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Ham (descendant of?): Thank you for your civil response. I must say, though, that questioning the NWO and Co is not about believing, it is about
April 17th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
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Jim Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Mini, you aren’t even making sense. Either get your medication reconfigured, or shut the hell up.
Then clean out your ears! Do you not have ears to hear. or eyes to see?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
oops! it is about thinking critically about the world around you. A person that believes that a 47 foot tall steel building could collapse at perfect freefall into it’s own footprint from a few fires on a few floors- THAT is an article of faith. Those that believe in the official 9-11 explanation are as credulous as those who believe in the “miracles” performed on TBN.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
I completely agree with you 298-Jim.
And it’s completely turning me off to this site, it makes me want to create a separate group of people who want to fight the NWO who are not religious wackjobs.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Plus AIDS is a government made virus. Why don’t people question the government instead of questioning each other?
Many of us have and are on the RED LIST because of it!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Aids policy must be based on (real) science and statistics, not righteous indignance. Kudos to PJ for his clear thinking and courage to say what is true.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Thank you Rembrandt! As Thomas Paine pointed out, all of the written “divine revelation” is just hearsay. If God wants to make him/herself available, then his all-powerful self can manage it. Why is it that ordinary humans can reveal themselves to each other, but an all-powerful Deity can’t? How about a big booming voice from the sky to just end the dispute once and for all?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
This will be in the US soon enough under the guise of HR1955. If they wanted to create a special interest blood donation by for and of gays more power to them. Just have gays donating blood for consenting gays. Problem solved back to fighting the NWO.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
SHAW Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
I completely agree with you 298-Jim.
And it’s completely turning me off to this site, it makes me want to create a separate group of people who want to fight the NWO who are not religious wackjobs.
Go ahead you will LOSE without God. The Founding Father knew that to! This will only be won by the Grace of God, not by your power!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
WHICH founding father, Mini?
April 17th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]
April 17th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Samuel Adams: | Portrait of Sam Adams | Powerpoint presentation on John, John Quincy, and Sam Adams
“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]
“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” [October 4, 1790]
April 17th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Jim,
First let me say thanks to you for your keeping your posts civil as well. It’s nice to finally see some posting that isn’t dripping with rash ramblings to incite hate.
I definitely think that if someone can truly look at all the 911 Truth movement evidence and still believe the Government fairy tale that they must either be scared to think for themselves, or could possible be part of the cover up.
And I personally don’t believe in the miracles performed on TBN. I’ve seen staged magic, and in my opinion that’s exactly what is happening with the TV Evangelist “healings”. The thing I would ask you to remember is that just because someone says the are a Christian, doesn’t mean they actually know what it means to be a Christian. And my comment is not meant to give off the idea that I alone know what it takes to be the best Christian. I don’t. But I’m trying to learn everyday, and the more I really dig deep in the Bible, the more I am convinced that 75% of the “churches” in existence are doing nothing more than following a mere religion. Not actually diving into God’s word and trying to learn. I hope I didn’t offend anyone, but that’s my honest opinion.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787 | original manuscript of this speech
“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]
April 17th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
And I personally don’t believe in the miracles performed on TBN. I don’t either it is of Satan!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Hmm, that’s news to me. I can believe it about John Adams, though. He also thought the President should be addressed as something befitting royalty. Here’s one for you: “This country was in no way founded on the Christian religion”- George Washington.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Alexander Hamilton:
• Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”
On July 12, 1804 at his death, Hamilton said, “I have a tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty, through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”
“For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.” [1787 after the Constitutional Convention]
“I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”
April 17th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Jim and Shaw, If you cannot see that the God of the Bible is real, and that he already came 2008 years ago, and that all of creation is proof that someone made it, and that most of the founding fathers believed the Bible, and that the founder of this web site, Alex Jones, believes in Jesus Christ and the Bible, then I guess you both will stay blind with no hope.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
LET ‘EM SAY WHATEVER HE/SHE WANT’S, IF U TAKE OFFENSE SO WHAT?
EVEYBODY.. HAS THAT RIGHT
IF THEY SPEAK IN IGNORANCE LET THEM BE FOOLS, OR DO THE RIGHT THING:
ENLIGHTEN
BUT IF A PERSON SPEAKS OUT OF TRUTH AND UNDERSTANDING
WELL THERE IS THE ONLY PROBLEM.. WHO CAN?
TRUTH IS RELATIVE AND UNDERSTANDING WELL THATS BEYOND MY GRASP
LET JUDGMENT PASS ON TO THE UNIVERSE-IF THERE IS SUCH A THING.
REMEMBER: THERE IS ONLY ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH 0=1
HA HA, I AM ME
~~FOOLS, YOU GIVE THEM WHAT YOU WANT~~
April 17th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I wonder if he gave that speech at the Hellfire’s Club where he participated in orgies.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
“He was a sincere believer in the Christian faith and a truly devout man.”
{Quote by John Marshall [Revolutionary General, Secretary of State, U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice]}
“To the character of hero and patriot, this good man added that of Christian. Although the greatest man upon earth, he disdained not to humble himself before his God and to trust in the mercies of Christ.”
{Quote by Gunning Bedford, signer of the Constitution}
“The name of American, belongs to you…[and] with slight shades of difference, you have the same religion.”
–George Washington in his Farewell Address to the American people, Paragraph 10; September 17, 1796 | photo of farewell address
“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
–George Washington in a speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779
“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”
“It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors.”
“Is it necessary that any one should [ask], “Did General Washington avow himself to be a believer in Christianity?” As well may we question his patriotism, his heroic devotion to his country. His mottos were, “Deeds, not Words”; and, “For God and my Country.” {Quote by Nelly Custis-Lewis, Washington’s adopted daughter}
April 17th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
A Portion of George Washington’s personal prayers:
“O Most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ, my merciful and loving Father; I acknowledge and confess my guilt in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day. I have called on Thee for pardon and forgiveness of my sins, but so coldly and carelessly that my prayers are become my sin, and they stand in need of pardon.”
“ I have sinned against heaven and before Thee in thought, word, and deed. I have contemned Thy majesty and holy laws. I have likewise sinned by omitting what I ought to have done and committing what I ought not. I have rebelled against the light, despising Thy mercies and judgment, and broken my vows and promise. I have neglected the better things. My iniquities are multiplied and my sins are very great. I confess them, O Lord, with shame and sorrow, detestation and loathing and desire to be vile in my own eyes as I have rendered myself vile in Thine. I humbly beseech Thee to be merciful to me in the free pardon of my sins for the sake of Thy dear Son and only Savior Jesus Christ who came to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Thou gavest Thy Son to die for me.”
“Make me to know what is acceptable in Thy sight, and therein to delight, open the eyes of my understanding, and help me thoroughly to examine myself concerning my knowledge, faith, and repentance, increase my faith, and direct me to the true object, Jesus Christ the Way, the Truth, and the Life, …”
April 17th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
People who bash the Bible, are usually people who have never read it. Then to top it off, they blame GOD for what scum bag preachers do, and “churches”.
What most churches do, and what the Bible says to do, are usually two different things.
The Bible is true, and can be validated by science and archeology.
Google Video “Ron Wyatt”, “Dead Sea Scrolls”, “Kent Hovind” Even the history channel admitted in thier latest special “the Exodus De coded” that the story is true.
I hate 501c3 organized religion- because it perverts true Christianity.
As far as fags go- Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 speaks for itself.
God doesn’t change, people need to change. So don’t make excuses, cause it’s lame.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Hi Ham. To be a good Christian is to love God above all things and to keep his commandments.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Mini14,
It’s interesting that you can fire off several posts in a row with material, as if you were waiting for someone to say something about the founding fathers and their believes.
But I would not put your faith in the founding fathers. Jim is right. Although they may have expressed a reverence for God and even shown it in their daily matters, some were also wrapped up in what would appear to be God-less things.
That is why I don’t put my faith in the founding fathers, but in the Lord Jesus. Be very careful to base your religious arguments on things in history, unless you have fully researched them. And even then that’s not possible, as we are consistently finding new truths about history everyday.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Unfortunately, I don’t have my book of quotes with me in my hotel room. As I understood it, the prevailing view among all most progressive thinkers of this time was called “Deism”, which believes in the existence of a Supreme Being, but that He/She/It could only be known through “rational contemplation”, and not through hand-me-down texts written by a sect of wandering nomads in the ancient Middle Eastern desert. I know for a fact that this was the view of Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine. Let’s just say there was no consensus back then, as there is none now. Bye.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Here is a real church “preachingfreedom.com”
April 17th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Gabe, God doesn’t hate fags! He loves them, he hates their sin! They need to REPENT and come to the ways of the Lord!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I am a Christian and can tell you temptation can be GREAT! I am a man just like everybody else. I am far from perfect! The flesh is evil! The Founding Fathers probably had it the same!
April 17th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Eli,
You are right and I do know this. But I’m finding that what I thought were truths in the “church” are sometimes no more than traditions. For instance, I know of a church who doesn’t believe it is Christian to go roller skating. And I found out that the original thought on this was because local roller skating rinks were becoming lewd and crude. But that doesn’t make roller skating wrong. And the people of that church shouldn’t try to push their specific belief on others.
I have always believed that if you find something that becomes a stumbling block between you and God, then remove it. But don’t expect others to have to follow your same line of thinking. So I guess what I was getting at is that I’m still learning everyday that what you originally said of loving God above all else and keeping His commandments truly is the only thing that should define a Christian.
April 17th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Psalm 5:5 …..thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Oh wow….God most certaintly doesn’t hate “fags”. Yea, it’s considered biblically wrong to be a homosexual but no more so then it’s biblically wrong to be prideful, vain,or any other “minor” sin. ALL sin is equal to God. He gave His Son to save homosexuals, rapists, saints, murderers, kids, EVERYBODY! “God hates fags” mentallity is wrong on so many levels.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
If the founding fathers were for the most part not Christian, then how the hell do you explain why the constitution is so good? Did fags write it? I don’t think so.
That’s why the occultists have been working so hard to destroy it- because it was written by good Christian men.
“The Bible is the book upon which this Republic rests.”- 7th president Andrew Jackson
Google “David Barton, Wallbuilders foundation”
April 17th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
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Ryan Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Oh wow….God most certaintly doesn’t hate “fags”. Yea, it’s considered biblically wrong to be a homosexual but no more so then it’s biblically wrong to be prideful, vain,or any other “minor” sin. ALL sin is equal to God. He gave His Son to save homosexuals, rapists, saints, murderers, kids, EVERYBODY! “God hates fags” mentallity is wrong on so many levels.
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Preacher Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Psalm 5:5 …..thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
AMEN BROTHERS IN CHRIST AND IN ARMS!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
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Gabriel A. King Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
If the founding fathers were for the most part not Christian, then how the hell do you explain why the constitution is so good? Did fags write it? I don’t think so.
That’s why the occultists have been working so hard to destroy it- because it was written by good Christian men.
“The Bible is the book upon which this Republic rests.”- 7th president Andrew Jackson
Google “David Barton, Wallbuilders foundation”
VERY GOOD POST GABE!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
“Think NOT that I am come to destroy the Law”- Jesus
The important part is the line behind it!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
#342 Ryan
The Phelps were civil rights lawyers. Did you know that?
And Jesus came to save the oppressed NOT criminals.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Mt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Mt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
We Christians have been way to soft, and have allowed evil doers to hi jack this country. Righteousness, and right government, was established in the Old Testament by God. And it is our job to enforce it.
The only thing Jesus did away with was animal sacrifice, by offering himself.
We allow ourselves to be victimized by little catch phrases and mantras like “homo phobic”, and “hate mongers”. Well, that’s all a bunch of anti Christ bullshit. And that is also why-
http://www.godhatesamerica.com
America has become a cage of every filthy bird, totally demoralized.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Infowars is swirling deeper into the toilet bowl every day. Has Alex been put here to divide us?
April 17th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
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Gabriel A. King Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
We Christians have been way to soft, and have allowed evil doers to hi jack this country. Righteousness, and right government, was established in the Old Testament by God. And it is our job to enforce it.
The only thing Jesus did away with was animal sacrifice, by offering himself.
We allow ourselves to be victimized by little catch phrases and mantras like “homo phobic”, and “hate mongers”. Well, that’s all a bunch of anti Christ bullshit. And that is also why-
http://www.godhatesamerica.com
America has become a cage of every filthy bird, totally demoralized.
YES, AND IT IS ONLY GOING TO WAX WORSE!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
This isn’t about sexual orientation. It’s about the safety of the blood supply. In order to make a batch of blood products like serum, packed cells, etc, sometimes thousands of units of blood from different donors are all mixed together and then processed.
Using blood from gay males is vastly increasing the risk of tainting the blood supply with HIV and the Aids Virus. This is not a political correctness issue! IT’S COMMON FLIPPING SENSE!
Paul Watson, good on ya and hang in there brother.
peace
d
April 17th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
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Used To Be An Infowars Fan Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Infowars is swirling deeper into the toilet bowl every day. Has Alex been put here to divide us?
Don’t blame Alex Jones, it is the state our country is in! The bible tells us it will get worse!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Aye Mini. And when Elijah slayed 400 of Baals prophets with the sword at the river Kishon- was he not letting his light shine before men?
And when Samuel hewed Agag in peices before the Lord in Gilgal, was his light not shining?
And when Josiah broke down the groves, and slayed the priests of Baal, was his light dark?
And when Samson slayed 1000 philistines with the jawbone of an ass, did God rebuke him for it?
And when David slayed his tens of thousands, was his light diminished?
And when Gideon, Joshua, Caleb slayed men, were they rebuked by the Lord?
And when Jesus returns to slay the millions, shall not his light shine before men?
Let us interpet rightly the will of God.
I am not talking about stoning the local hooker. But I am talking about slaying the people for the same reasons these men of God did.
The whoremonger empires, the occultists.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Hey Mini 14- Do not forget that the 7th President Andrew Jackson raped his slaves and fathered children by them. What a good little Christian he was…
April 17th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
IT’S COMMON FLIPPING SENSE!
That is something the public schools don’t teach! Parents are the best teachers of Common Sense!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
http://www.thesignsofthetimes......ypiaw.html
April 17th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Facts are facts. Infusing fag blood into the supply is dangerous, not to mention immoral.
Sorry if some people don’t believe in REAL morals anymore. But I don’t really care. Lump it.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
If you used to be an infowars fan then get off this web site!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I doubt that 365. Provide legitimate source material to validate your comments, otherwise, it’s just heresay.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
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Rebelde Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Hey Mini 14- Do not forget that the 7th President Andrew Jackson raped his slaves and fathered children by them. What a good little Christian he was
He will answer for his Sins!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Used To Be An Infowars Fan Says:
I wonder if you use to go by ThankaMarineforYourFreedom! Spanky the Marine!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
NWO is going bye-bye. Easy way or hard way. Any bets?
April 17th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Bullshit. That article was stupid as hell. It only does harm to our movement. Good job Watson.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Look at all the different OPINIONS and INTERPRETATIONS of us humans when it comes to what the bible says. Who’s right is it for people to judge others and say they are right and everyone else is wrong, I thought it was up to GOD to do the judging! . Its this kind of mentality that will tear this planet apart. I am not gay but have gay friends and they are humans too! They didn’t choose to be gay, they were born that way! And guess what, God is the one who created them!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
Mt 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Mt 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
There’s a lot of religious rhetoric floating around here. Why can’t we have a sensible discussion about a legitimate problem with the facts laid out? Is the rate of aids infections in Homosexuals truly higher than in normal populations? Isn’t donating blood about saving lives? Why would anyone who was infected with aids want to make another human being suffer the same fate as them? I believe that being forced to answer that question on a form makes some homosexuals upset, and rightly so but how do they propose we prevent this terrible disease from spreading even farther? Is the right to donate blood more important than the safety of innocent lives?
The knee-jerk reaction to Paul Watson’s article is saddening. We are letting our differences prevent us from solving real problems once again. I believe that if you have a high risk of carrying the HIV virus it is morally irresponsible to donate blood without knowing for sure that you are not infected. Get smart people, this is not about hatred its about solving problems and saving lives.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
They didn’t choose to be gay, they were born that way!
THAT IS A LIE, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
#366, Yes we are all born sinners, but we all have to repent.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VLa.....re=related
April 17th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
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Preacher Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
#366, Yes we are all born sinners, but we all have to repent.
Some have to REPENT, REPENT, and keep REPENTING! For NO man could live under the law, but only by the blood of Jesus Christ!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
*sigh*
Mini, your just spamming.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
#368 Crossfire0 There’s a lot of religious rhetoric floating around here…..Why would anyone who was infected with aids want to make another human being suffer the same fate as them?
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Gay is just a sign of the trait of want to make another human being suffer. They got their rights and now you see how they use them. It’s no longer religious rhetoric. They’ve proved it themselves.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
To Paul Watson,
I read your article and whilst I agreed with the argument about the stupidity of endangering the blood supply with blood from groups known to be high-risk (and their could be an infection window in which a test would not show up the infection), I nevertheless felt that your article was anti-gay in its tone. I have seen various articles in the past on Alex’s website that point sadly to the same fact: the Alex Jones website and its affiliate correspondents like you Paul Watson are evidently homophobic. With Alex (whom I have met on two occasions at 911 truth events), I think it has something to do with Christian conviction. With you, I’m not sure what it is. It’s there nevertheless in the article. You always use such sophistry in your arguments, stretching the facts over some skeleton of reasoning in order to make some obscure point about the New World Order. If it wasn’t your intention to be homophobic in your article, then you should either say so outright or correct your clumsy style.
I am firmly convinced of 911 truth, but I am also a self-respecting gay man. I am fed up with the latent homophobia and moralistic Christian bias of Alex Jones and of your reporting. I have come to feel over the years that I can have no place in the movement because of this. Given the great issues of our times, it is very sad when people are excluded in this way from great movements. If I have misread your intentions, and those of Alex Jones, then perhaps one or both of you could make a clear statement on the website that you are not homophobic and that people like me have misunderstood. I have emailed Alex on this issue before now but received no reply.
I feel very saddened that it has come down to this level.
Michael Hartwell
April 17th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
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Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
*sigh*
Mini, your just spamming.
IF I AM JUST SPAMMING, FILTER IT OUT! THE TRUTH HURTS SOMETIMES!
April 17th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
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I forgive them for their ignorance, and I will try my best to show them that in my heart I only wish the best for everyone. They know not what they do.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
#375 Michael Hartwell
If you want to put AIDS in the blood supply, being homophobic would be wise.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I think the people who come to this website are just stupid because a majority of these comments all seem to be homophobic. If you are homophobic please leave this movement.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
People, could you stop it with all this Bible nonsense already! As Alex Jones is fond of saying, “you know in your gut it’s true.” I like to believe that each of us knows in our gut that the fallacy of the Bible as God’s Word is just that: a fallacy.
How can people who pride themselves in pulling back the curtain and seeing beyond the mistruths and perverted precepts of socio-political doctrine – people who call themselves Truthers – how can such apparently thinking people as these be so beholden to an intellectually redundant myth?
Is it for a lack of information? Is it for a lack of courage? Or is it just that the inculcation is ubiquitous and the convictions so deeply embedded that to be liberated from the fallacy of faith would leave you left with nothing?
I hope this isn’t the case. I hope that all of you reading this have at some time been close enough to compassion that you know it as the flame of humankind, an essential part of our make-up which requires not the threat of God’s wrath to have us steer clear of sin. Anyone who has ever known beauty has already within them the guiding light of love. Referring to the Bible as a moral handbook from which to show that stoning is the proper procedure by which to deal with gays? That isn’t it.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
and 666 amen.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Michael Hartwell, Quit being a Biblephobic.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Michael Hartwell, it is your group that wants to put AIDS in the blood supply not Paul Watson or Alex Jones. So, why not comdem the leaders of your group? They are the problem and only problem. Who is Paul Watson endangering? It is your group that is always trying to kill people or indoctrinate them. What do you need to be in every parade for? March through Jerusalem for? Should straight people march through San Francisco on gay pride day?
You prove that gay is just a sign of a complete moron. You are morons not ‘gays’.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
April 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
To Michael Hartwell: Your post to Infowars.com re your ‘lifestyle’ smacked of manipulation! (If you don’t recant re your stance re ‘homos’, I won’t play with you anymore!). You’re pathetic. Further, ’self-respecting gay [sic] man” is an oxymoron; if you get time, take a look at govt. health statistics pertaining to homos. The rates of suicide, domestic abuse, alcohol and drug abuse, to name a few, are disproportionately high. Wouldn’t it make more sense for homosexuals to just admit that their sexual proclivities are tantamount to vile perversion and unnatural? (rhetorical) We’re all sinners in various ways, Mr. Hartwell. But it’s never a good idea to attempt to justify our sinful behavior. Jesus died and rose for my sin; He did the same for yours. I hope you’ll accept His grace and repent. Semper Fi—Chris
April 17th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Biblephobic.
I like that they call me homophobic, and I tell them they are Biblephopic! The true is if they don’t REPENT they will burn in HELL, a DEVILS HELL!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Mr Hartwell, I believe that people have the right to do with their own bodies as they please. I do not feel it is my right, or my duty to judge others. I am not a religions man, I am a firm believer in science. The purpose of Mr Watson’s article was not to create a division in the 911 movement, and perhaps he himself was not even conscious of the tone that his article took. Or perhaps he was, it is silly to argue the point. I just want everyone to agree that the idea of risking infecting a blood supply designed to save lives for selfish petty reasons is madness. There are many people in this ugly world who feel it is their right and duty to oppress those who do not believe as they do, perhaps it would be useful if we could forgive Mr Watson for the tone of his article and understand the idea he was trying to share.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
382 / Preacher
Quit being a reasonaphobe!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
#387, It sounds like you are judging.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
386 / Mini 14
Is that a literal Hell? With, like, real flames and stuff?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
#387 Crossfire0 Says:
Mr Hartwell, I believe that people have the right to do………
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Yea, but, they got their rights and look what they do. They want to put AIDS in the blood supply.
Fool me once…..
April 17th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Preacher: I’ve been pointing that out to heathens for years! (judging me for judging !). Their hypocrisy is astounding, no? hahaha etc. Amerika bless God! Semper Fi—Chris
April 17th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Crossfire0 Says:
I am not a religions man, I am a firm believer in science. The purpose of Mr Watson’s article was not to create a division in the 911 movement, and perhaps he himself was not even conscious of the tone that his article took.
THEN YOU KNOW THE BIBLE CAN”T BE DISPROVEN BY SCIENCE!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
A straight person who knowingly or unknowingly has AIDS could donate blood, and same as a gay person. This is why the blood is tested for HIV before it is used. It’s possible homosexuals have a higher risk of HIV infection, but that doesn’t mean heterosexuals don’t get the disease. The fact that someone is turning Watson over to the police for a difference of opinion is ridiculous, but he should know that ALL BLOOD IS TESTED. Straight people get AIDS too! When it comes to the transfusion of blood things will always be risky, that is why it isn’t just trusted when someone claims in the questionnaire that they are straight and have protected sex. IT’S TESTED IT’S TESTED IT’S TESTED. Now get over the whole gay/straight/bi issue because it is just superficial when it comes to this subject.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Now get over the whole gay/straight/bi issue because it is just superficial when it comes to this subject.
IT IS NOT SUPERFICIAL! YOUR COUNTRY IS DIEING BECAUSE OF IT!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
To Mini and I_know:
The bible is filled with wonderful stories that are valuable for helping many people find their way in a large and difficult world. Mr Hartwell is upset by the tone of Mr Watson’s article, and perhaps with good reason. I cannot say what his past may have been like, and I ask that both of you for a moment try to imagine what it must be like to be persecuted for being who he is. I don’t believe that Mr Hartwell thinks it is reasonable for people infected with HIV to donate blood, but he is upset by the feel of Mr Watson’s words.
However, I will say this about taking every word written in the bible literally. It is pure foolery. Open your mind to new ideas and possibilities. Don’t get caught up in the semantics. Jesus preached a message of tolerance. Its not your right to go preaching your beliefs to others, that is between them and whatever god they believe in. If you believe they will be damned to hell, and hate these gays so much, then why are you so concerned if they spend an eternity in your so called hell. Or perhaps you are so afraid that there is no hell or afterlife that you feel you must bring it to them here and now on this plane. I know that no matter what I say, you will continue to believe what you do and that is your right. So with that I say go with peace, and may your life be long enough that your god will show you his wisdom.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Same thing with secular market driven neo-cons. They got their chance to run things and blew up the World Trade Center and sold the whole country out. Just like gays got their rights and now they want to put AIDS in the blood supply. So there are your true colors.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
You pecker heads have let the government get away with Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma Bombing, Iraq invasions, Bosnia and you now are gonna call all to task on gay blood and 911? I masturbate on your movement. Stick to stuff you can handle like taking out the trash and ordering a pizza. The USA has been sold to the conglomerates, peons. They couldn’t care less what you think. That’s why Alex is allowed to ask for your last pennies and give you false “hope”. Hot tip, Switzerland still has national pride. Get a job there. Thailand is also very nice.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
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Jake Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
386 / Mini 14
Is that a literal Hell? With, like, real flames and stuff?
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE STATES, not a joke huh!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
#396 Crossfire0 try to imagine what it must be like to be persecuted for being who he is.
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We persecute murderers and child molesters for good reason. Or should we give them their rights and a chance too? If they want to put AIDS in the blood supply, maybe there was a good reason they were persecuted. They’ve proved it themselves. If they were decent people, they’d be against it. Get real.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Crossfire0, God has a place for you if you don’t change your ways! It is called hell! REPENT
April 17th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Crossfire0: It’s apparent you’re a fool. You said the following:
However, I will say this about taking every word written in the bible literally. It is pure foolery.
Hey, fool: Was Abraham imaginary? How about Moses? Or the Prophets of Israel? We have thousands of Bible manuscripts and/or manuscript fragments authenticating the Holy Scriptures. Perhaps you should blow the dust off of your Bible (if you own one) and do your homework before you open your mouth and insert both feet, therein, simultaneously. Not a sermon, just a thought. Chris
April 17th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
384 / Mini 14
“2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
“2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
“2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power”
Wow! You read that in the Bible? Well you know what they say: the Bible is the Word of God! That’s right: He wrote it and so it must be what He thinks! Yay! Stone them gay people! Pull their arms off! Let’s get them a little practice in before they face eternity surrounded by other gays’ burning bodies, Lucifer prodding them up the backside from time to time – erm, hang on a minute…
You see? A reasonable fanatic would want the homo-perverted superfag to confess and live sinless enough a life that they will spend eternity in their own personal Hell: Heaven! I mean, can you imagine it? No sex, no drugs, alcohol, no profanity, no rude jokes, no red meat, no rock’n'roll… just everyone sitting around on fluffy clouds, eating vegetables and holding hands while some nerd with long hair and a vacant smile strums ‘kumbaya’ on an acoustic guitar.
You want that? Well do ya, punk?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
#396 CrossfireO, Your philosophy of how you view life is nothing but a watered down meaningless bunch of words that stand for nothing.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
#403 Jake the Snake, It is obvious you are a product of the Public Schools. STUPID!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
#403 Jake Says:
…just everyone sitting around on fluffy clouds, eating vegetables and holding hands while some nerd with long hair and a vacant smile strums ‘kumbaya’ on an acoustic guitar.
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Heaven is a New Age social club gathering? Will there be chia and soy milk too?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
You want that? Well do ya, punk?
First if you have seen me you wouldn’t be calling me that!
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
This doesn’t sound like much fun!
I’ll take the cloud option Thank You
April 17th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Jake thinks the world would be a better place if people did not obey the Bible. Everyone would kill, steal, rape, lie, cheat, and hate. What a wonderful world it would be.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I have always thought that Paul Joseph Watson writes very subjective articles and should learn how to report news events instead of rant out his opinions. I’m sorry things have to end this way but I believe it would be best if he keeps his anger to himself for a while. How can allowing “gay” people’s blood lead to a 50% greater risk of acquiring HIV anyhow??? Is he suggesting that all gays are HIV pos? This is ridicules. Get him off the stage. Bring in someone who reports with more concern for facts. Yeah, definitely get him off the stage.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
#405 Preacher Says:
#403 Jake the Snake, It is obvious you are a product of the Public Schools. STUPID!
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Of all the reasons they say people abandon Religion, no one ever mentions the fact that it might be because it’s beyond their comprehension.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Preacher somebody got saved tonight!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
#409 E Says: How can allowing “gay” people’s blood lead to a 50% greater risk of acquiring HIV anyhow?
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I dunno? He posted some facts though to back it up. Did you? NO.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Anal sex is unnatural, and those who perform it have a malfunction in the brain. It is disgusting, and extremely barbaric. The anatomy of man and woman prove that anal sex and fisting and deep throating are not designed to be performed by humans. Those who engage in these types of degenerate activities are not mentally healthy. You do what you want to do, but just know that your mind is not your own, yet belongs to the NWO and their campaign to undo our civilization.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Thank you so much for saving me Mini and Preacher. Jesus would be proud of your love and tolerance for your fellow man.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
414 CrossfireO, You will wish you were saved tonight.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
405 / Preacher
Funny you should say that. Public school? Yes. But not as you know it. In Britain, ‘Public School’ means something else and it has nothing to do with the state. Let me educate you…
In the UK, there are (for all intents and purposes) three tiers of schooling:
* State School – just like ‘public schools’ in the US
* Private School – just like ‘private schools’ in the US
* Public School – elite institutions like Eton, Harrow, Winchester, Oundle, Rugby or Marlborough. Only the best or the richest attend. They are called Public Schools because they are national institutions, but their funding comes from private patrons. These are schools attended by the future ruling classes (my school alone has produced a British and French Prime Minister and countless scientists, artists and entrepeneurs who have gone on to be prominent in their field). The curriculum is independent from government mandate and students are encouraged to question ruthlessly and think critically. Worship is also a mainstay, with daily chapel attendance a requirement and Christian values at the root of the ethos.
My education alone, I think, qualifies me to decry you an idiot.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
http://www.medicalnewstoday.co.....102111.php maybe this will help!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
413 / Robert Allison says:
“Anal sex is unnatural, and those who perform it have a malfunction in the brain.”
Daniel Tammet has a malfunction of the brain, and he’s a genius. You are an idiot.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Now you will patronize my devotion to the lord Jesus Christ? After you have told me what horrors await me in the afterlife? I am not sure I understand, but I would think that wishing me to simply go to hell ought to be a sin. The lord forgives all that are willing to take him into their hearts.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Mt 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mt 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mt 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mt 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
There is one huge factual error in the article and that is no-one and I mean no-one can be infected with AIDS. AIDS isn’t a disease in it’s own right (like polio, TB, measles, cancer etc…). AIDS is the name given, by the respective governments, for a collection of diseases and disorders which, if a person is diagnosed HIV+ and contracts one or more of these illnesses, they are then added to the AIDS statistics. One thing strange about these statistics is that once you’ve got AIDS you can never leave the list, even if the causal illness has been cured. No other illness is like this.
All these conditions existed before HIV was discovered/invented (depending on your point of view). When they want the AIDS figures to go up they just add another condition and have been doing so for the past 20+ years. In 1992 the HIV/AIDS ‘epidemic’ was showing a marked decline that is until the CDC (Center for Disease Control) expanded the list of conditions and hey presto with the adding of new (already existing illnesses) the number of ‘AIDS-patients’ increased from +200%.
One final thought. HIV/AIDS can affect heterosexual and homosexual people. Whatever your religious or moral conviction about the rights and wrongs of homosexuality let’s not lose sight of the fact that these are people and some of these people die.
There are schools of thought and some scant evidence that HIV is a bio-weapon created in a lab. If that’s the case then all these people are victims. Hatred and victimization is what this NWO thrives on. Don’t pander to their sick agenda. What good is it doing shouting “God hates fags”?
Keep focused on the real issues and don’t let governments, the corporate media and organised religions make you become bigots.
A lot of controversy surrounds the HIV/AIDS issue – by design.
Divide and Conquer, remember that mantra?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Crossfire0, it wasn’t you! The person has a powerful calling, it really moved me hard!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
“Crossfire0, it wasn’t you! The person has a powerful calling, it really moved me hard!” – Mini 14
Did Jesus make you hard?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
@408
“Preacher Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Jake thinks the world would be a better place if people did not obey the Bible. Everyone would kill, steal, rape, lie, cheat, and hate. What a wonderful world it would be.”
Yeah no one steals, kills, rapes, lies, cheats and hates today.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Mt 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Mt 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mt 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
April 17th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
#418 Jake – Tammet holds the European record for reciting pi to 22,514 digits in just over five hours.
BFD. How does this compare with Martin Luthar King or Ghandi?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
AIDS= acquired immune deficienct syndrome= someone created something that attacks the immune system. I heard that it was created in a laboratory, so is this true? Anyhow, if it attacks the immune system, then you could die of just about anything. Whatever comes along. Right?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I’m sorry I just can’t help myself! When a youth group decides they’ll flame all over a forum to do god’s work, it makes me giggle.
1) I believe in Jesus. I believe he was a man, with a powerful message.
2) He’s wasn’t the son of god.
3) I can’t help myself from messing with ignorant Christians.
4) Wasn’t this thread about HIV infections and donating blood?
April 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
“Crossfire0, it wasn’t you! The person has a powerful calling, it really moved me hard!” – Mini 14
Did Jesus make you hard?
Crossfire0 you need help!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
#416 Jake, You are a figment of your own imagination, and you don’t qualify to even make mud pies. Your daily chapel services, worship, and Christian teachings have done you no good. If it is not from the Bible it is garbage. If it is from the Bible, and they are teaching you right, then you are a hypocrite for staying in something you feel strongly against.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
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Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I’m sorry I just can’t help myself! When a youth group decides they’ll flame all over a forum to do god’s work, it makes me giggle.
Youth, I’m a 40 year old father of 5!
April 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Ouch, well you act like a 14 year old idiot.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Ouch, well you act like a 14 year old idiot.
You really need help!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Too bad your more interested in smacking people over the head with your bible then spending time with your children.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Too bad your more interested in smacking people over the head with your bible then spending time with your children.
Get behind thee Satan!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Ahh yes, tell yourself that I am your Satan incarnate so that you can completely ignor the fact that I believe in being tolerant of my fellow man. Well, everyone except you.
But it sounds like you live in a lovely little box with your 5 kids. God forbid you stepped outside of it and realized that some people don’t rely on 2000 years of rhetoric to live a good life. That might make your whole world turn upside down.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
CrossfireO, You are crossed wired, you have been double crossed by your own brain.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Once again divisiveness!!! Damn give that shit a rest!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
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Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Ahh yes, tell yourself that I am your Satan incarnate so that you can completely ignor the fact that I believe in being tolerant of my fellow man. Well, everyone except you.
But it sounds like you live in a lovely little box with your 5 kids. God forbid you stepped outside of it and realized that some people don’t rely on 2000 years of rhetoric to live a good life. That might make your whole world turn upside down.
You don’t know me, and you are deceived as you are deceiving!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
*sigh*
Ok, but Its really hard to resist messing with these idiots. I tried being nice earlier, but they were too dumb to understand my message. I guess just a little too much fluoride in the water eh? Well, anyway cheers, I’m done. I hope I haven’t traumatized any of these bible thumper too much.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
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Crossfire0 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
*sigh*
Ok, but Its really hard to resist messing with these idiots. I tried being nice earlier, but they were too dumb to understand my message. I guess just a little too much fluoride in the water eh? Well, anyway cheers, I’m done. I hope I haven’t traumatized any of these bible thumper too much.
Sorry we drink well water!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
And hump each other’s butts!!!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
In other words Crossfire0’s ego has been defeated.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
“deficiency”… There are many blood cappilaries in very close to the skin wall of the anus. I don’t know if god said anything about this, but doctors will tell you that it is a way to come into contact with blood. So, if a person has something that is transferred by blood, then you can get it poking around in there. The doctors always wear gloves to inspect that area. So increased risk of exposure to it is for sure a warning sign to those working at the blood banks. If you are a gay man, please tell me how you are not at the highest risk? You only kiss? You don’t engage in uncovered anal sex? It is a STD. Sex is the operative word. Don’t blame people for wanting good clean, uninfected blood when they need it. We don’t know enough to overlook the risk; and if the virus was engineered for MEN, then it is very serious indeed, because it could become pandemic in promiscuous gay men. That would be terrible.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Are you sure?
I’m HIV Positive.
It’s not necessary to have sex at all. That belief is a product of this societys abhorrent attention to the “sin” of sex, and it’s hypocritical attitude about sexual practice.
If you need to butt fuck some guy, keep that shit to yourself and other gay guys. I don’t want gay butt fuck blood in my veins, thanks I’ll pass. I’d rather have disgusting old lady blood, than gross self loving perversion – which is what gayness is; a ramped up version of masturbation (according to the ancient greeks, not me))
We should all walk around naked. There is nothing wrong with nakedness.
What is wrong is the sexual perversion created by “puritan” schooling, disney brainwashing, and most of all, elites who want to rape little boys – ergo, the gay population was created. (throw in the elites maltreatment of the female psyche, making them all unbearable money grabbers and soul thieves – no one wants to have sex with a complete whore who says she isn’t one; who will afterward attempt to rob you blind (most of the time emotionally))
You don’t need to have sex. If you’re gay, stop having sex. Are you trying to have an anal baby? Good luck with that, tell me how that works out for you. You might want to ask the reptillians how that’s done, I’m sure they’ll “help” you out there.
Go ahead and be gay, but if I were you, I’d attempt to give up sex entirely. Mostly because sexual energy can be used for magic powers *wink wink*
April 17th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
1Ti 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
1Ti 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
1Ti 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
1Ti 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
About comment #445
Ha ha ha… Nice post
April 17th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I am sorry for being intolerant of gays and lesbians. I apologize to the world, Jesus, and Crossfire0 for spewing such derisive nonsense. They are free to do as they please as long as they don’t try to touch my but.
P.S. I love Satan.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
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Mini 14 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
And hump each other’s butts!!!
I DID NOT STATE THIS! IMPOSTER!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Mini 14 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I am sorry for being intolerant of gays and lesbians. I apologize to the world, Jesus, and Crossfire0 for spewing such derisive nonsense. They are free to do as they please as long as they don’t try to touch my but.
P.S. I love Satan.
Me too
April 17th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
#448 is not Mini14.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
448
Mini 14 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I am sorry for being intolerant of gays and lesbians. I apologize to the world, Jesus, and Crossfire0 for spewing such derisive nonsense. They are free to do as they please as long as they don’t try to touch my but.
P.S. I love Satan.
I DID’NT STATE THIS EITHER! IMPOSTER,Can’t fight a good fight!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
If I was religous, then my religion would be Opposing the New World Order, and Infowars.com would be one of my ‘churches’ (haha) so I’m not attacking anyone when I ask this question: Why is it 50% more likely that homosexuals will mix aids into the blood donations? I thought that it was a myth created back in the 80s or so that you contracted aids if you were gay and men had sex with men. I thought it was just a lie that the government and others told, but maybe there is actual evidence, maybe someone could point it out?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
#450 is not me.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
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Mini 14 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
http://www.medicalnewstoday.co…..102111.php maybe this will help!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Neither is #454
April 17th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
So preacher, we gonna see you at Joe’s tomorrow night to sacrifice some carrots?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Crossfire0, can’t fight a good fight! has to play childish games, to support his Sodamite life!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
I don’t understand. How can the risk go up by 50%? Say there are 50000 people who donate blood, and 1000 gay people are allowed into the system. How on earth do you get an increase of 50% chance? In this scenario the increase in risk is minimal. And since when is it only gay people who have AIDS? A straight person with AIDS might not declare their sexual exploits when they donate, which might lead to more damage than an honest gay man. As far as I understand everyone’s blood (or those that fall into a higher risk category) gets tested for disease anyway. I really don’t see why you guys need to get up in arms about this. I really do support the revolution, but this should not be part of it.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Hey yeah Preacher, it’ll be a totally awesome party!! Make sure you don’t miss it!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
hey there was nothing wrong with what he wrote it wasn’t hate speach just telling it how it real is it sucks but some body has to say it. i wonder if 50% (or what ever the precent is) of “headro” men had a problem with aids would it still be hate speach ?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
2Ti 3:17 And god said, yay shall Mini 14 be case down upon hell. And his soul shall be torn to shreds by Dick Cheyne’s Penis.
2T 5:2 And The Lord said, “Preacher and Mini 14 love each other’s butts” and thus he spake and all of the monkey’s said Amen.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
#458 DumbStats, Is there such a thing as a honest gay man? Being a sodomite is almost at the bottom of the barrow of immoral sins. Trying to be honest is in a person who tries to stay out of the barrow, period.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
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Mini 14 Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
2Ti 3:17 And god said, yay shall Mini 14 be case down upon hell. And his soul shall be torn to shreds by Dick Cheyne’s Penis.
2T 5:2 And The Lord said, “Preacher and Mini 14 love each other’s butts” and thus he spake and all of the monkey’s said Amen.
Crossfire0, you need help!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Will you let me help your butt?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Don’t be gay dude.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
all blood is tested for HIV/AIDS no matter who donates. this from what i know is fact. no professional medical doctor would ever administer blood given by a person who strictly gave his word that he didn’t have HIV/AIDS. if blood is not tested it is not used. if a gay or straight person gave blood to donate it would be tested. the fact that there is a law against gay’s donating blood is bullshit. homosexual males are no longer the leaders in carrying HIV/AIDS. that title now belongs to african americans. no one should be discriminated against and all blood will and still should be tested.
end of discussion.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
The Sodomite crowd is proving how they are, keep digging your hole!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Those who know the writtings of Mini 14 and myself will know that there is a person with a reprobate mind impersonating us. This sick individual will face God one day, and maybe soon.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Go Crossfire0 my child, and stop tormenting these petty souls. Their minds are to fragile to understand my love and tolerance of all man. Fear not though, for their souls will be condemned to spend eternity in damnation in the fiery pits of hell.
Amen.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
K, peace out dude.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
I don’t have a problem with this thing as ‘hate speech’, I have a problem with the mis-information, and blowing the issue out of proportion because you have a vested religious / personal interest against homosexuality. They are fighting the New World Order, and running a news site, they need to be objective and truthful.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
i love my cat but i dont stick my dick up its ass! A mad sucking another mans dick is wronge! homo’s are mentaly ill perverted people! It is a sick mental illness! Think about it! What a fucked up world it has become: may God have pitty on your soles
April 17th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
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Preacher
Don’t forget Alex Jones have the IP addresses! He could use him as an example like ThankaMarineforYourFreedom!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7318346.stm they state the same!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
http://www.savethemales.ca/
April 17th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
If you want to fight the NWO, then you better get used to fighting the Gay and lesbian movement! Who the Hell do you think started and is supporting it?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
#473 DumbStats, After all I am a Bible preacher. Bible preachers preach against sin and warn sinners about Hell. I also warn people about the NWO and their devices to kill us. Both are important to warn people about but sin and Hell are more important because Hell is forever, this live is not.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
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Preacher Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
#473 DumbStats, After all I am a Bible preacher. Bible preachers preach against sin and warn sinners about Hell. I also warn people about the NWO and their devices to kill us. Both are important to warn people about but sin and Hell are more important because Hell is forever, this live is not.
AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!
April 17th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Newsflash: THERE IS NO TEST FOR AIDS!!!!!!!!!
The HIV “test” only looks for a certain protein which may or may not indicate the presence of the HIV virus. BIG PROBLEM is that the mythical HIV virus has NEVER been isolated in a lab anywhere. In other words HIV may or may not even exist since there is no definitive proof of its existence since nobody has ever been able to trap one.
The whole HIV = AIDS thing is a SCAM to sell drugs, funnel money into pet “research” projects and provide cover for the elitist starvation project in Africa…oh and let’s not forget it also is really good for stoking people’s fear and hatred of others as PJW proved.
As far as being gay being a sin goes…isn’t that between the gay person and God? Who appointed all of you homophobes judge and jury of anyone?
April 17th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
I love this! It’s like trying to read a Burroughs novel. Everything twists around and however much you try, it just doesn’t make any sense.
Too bad this isn’t fiction, though.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
#481 Perry, Who is judging anyone, I’m “warning” everyone.
April 18th, 2008 at 12:01 am
481 – Thanks, so we agree then that this article was stupid. I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of gays.
April 18th, 2008 at 12:03 am
http://www.afajournal.org/2006.....GayWar.asp so you want to fight the NWO and be excepting of Gays!
April 18th, 2008 at 12:05 am
This an ADL intelligence gathering website. Also involving the Joint Terrorism Task Force. Alex works for the ADL. Splendid!
April 18th, 2008 at 12:14 am
http://media.afa.net/newdesign/about.asp how is this an ADL intell. site?
April 18th, 2008 at 12:21 am
Screw political correctness. I HAD scores of gay friends. EVERYONE OF THEM ARE DEAD FROM SODOMY. Now I realize I had ‘drunk the koolaid’, spoke on their behalf, but in reality I was a ‘fag hag’ with a fear of men. Don’t for one moment believe they are victims.
Furthermore, the lesbian/feminist movement is just a cover for diesel dyke bullies, insecure, unable to live up to their full potential, be real women. “Victims’ who are ‘perpetrators.’ An inept, psychologically ’skewed’ people. If people are doing the right thing, they don’t need to fight for anything.
These people are disgusting. See what they are doing in the classroom.
\http://www.rense.com/general81/vdt.htm
My final point being, these movements were dreamed up by the controllers to attack the opposite sex.
Check out their Lambda brethren. Google them.
By the way ‘The Lord Jesus Christ”, Jesus would NEVER tolerate people like this.
Google “The franklin cover up.”
April 18th, 2008 at 12:28 am
http://www.wnd.com/news/articl.....E_ID=46425 here is more!
April 18th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Tsk Tsk. Where shall I even begin? Alex Jones…I thought you were a true patriot, a true warrior, a true captain on the voyage of truth. This article is nothing but tabloid journalism. Any rational thinking human being would know that blood is screened before being deemed usable for any medical procedure. I know Paul Joseph Watson wrote the article, but you need to really to need to take the role of editor here. This kind of garbage only works to divide those in the truth movement that see the bigger picture involved and those who still cling to their 5000 year old fairy tales. What does this article have anything to do with waging war against the New World Order? It’s just hate mongering. You really need to take a long hard look at yourself. What have you become? Do you not realize that religion is all part of the control grid? Religion is no different than the government. It fills you with fear, and discourages doubt. Wake up, seize the day, and realize we are all in this together. United we stand, divided we fall, and Alex, the more I read the article you put out, the more I think you want us be divided and eventually fall. Peace and light my brothers and sisters.
April 18th, 2008 at 1:21 am
Damien666 Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Tsk Tsk. Where shall I even begin? Alex Jones…I thought you were a true patriot, a true warrior, a true captain on the voyage of truth. This article is nothing but tabloid journalism. Any rational thinking human being would know that blood is screened before being deemed usable for any medical procedure. I know Paul Joseph Watson wrote the article, but you need to really to need to take the role of editor here. This kind of garbage only works to divide those in the truth movement that see the bigger picture involved and those who still cling to their 5000 year old fairy tales. What does this article have anything to do with waging war against the New World Order? It’s just hate mongering. You really need to take a long hard look at yourself. What have you become? Do you not realize that religion is all part of the control grid? Religion is no different than the government. It fills you with fear, and discourages doubt. Wake up, seize the day, and realize we are all in this together. United we stand, divided we fall, and Alex, the more I read the article you put out, the more I think you want us be divided and eventually fall. Peace and light my brothers and sisters.
Alex is ok, YOU NEED TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOUR SELF!
Religion is no different than the government. It fills you with fear, and discourages doubt, I agree religion is Satans greatest deception! Religion is not of God!
April 18th, 2008 at 1:30 am
The Anti Defamation Defense League has Alex in their pocket. Wise up dip wads..you’re being played.. They agitate, catalog the IP’s and comments.. cause that’s what they do. Watch “The Dark Side of the ADL” They buy the cops and love to spy. Don’t be a ding dong. Alex sez..sure beats working for a living… lol
April 18th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Alright, point taken. Religion is not of God, but of man. That would make God a product of man. Man created the concept of God and thus created religion in the process. I’m not encouraging people to lose their religion or belief in God, but it’s these sort of things that people cling to for no real reason other than out of tradition and fear. I hope Alex will focus more on the true issues at hand and not keep publishing and posting smut such as this article.
April 18th, 2008 at 1:33 am
I have to agree with HIV/AIDS = LIES. There is substantial proof that the theories of this disease just don’t hold water. I have a close friend who is HIV+ and doesn’t take any medication and is living healthy. When he was first diagnosed he listened to his doctors, took his medication and started to fade away. Then he did what any logical person would do and researched things to try and save his own life. He found out about a woman in California, who was not only living with HIV, but was fighting the whole system based around the disease.
My friend is the healthiest person I know and he doesn’t take any drugs. He is also married now and they have a daughter. He was young and stupid once, but he overcame his mistakes and now leads a great life. He questioned his “reality” and he won!!! I’m happy to know this man….
April 18th, 2008 at 1:36 am
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Harry Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 1:30 am
The Anti Defamation Defense League has Alex in their pocket. Wise up dip wads..you’re being played.. They agitate, catalog the IP’s and comments.. cause that’s what they do. Watch “The Dark Side of the ADL” They buy the cops and love to spy. Don’t be a ding dong. Alex sez..sure beats working for a living… lol
SORRY I DON”T WALK IN FEAR! I did watch the video, but where was Alex Jones tied into it? Please explain? If you are SO scared of it WHY ARE YOU POSTING AGAINST THE ADL?
April 18th, 2008 at 1:37 am
I agree the Pon Raul. 9/11 truthers need to know the truth about HIV and AIDS as well. This article does nothing to help either cause.
April 18th, 2008 at 1:39 am
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Damien666 Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Alright, point taken. Religion is not of God, but of man. That would make God a product of man. Man created the concept of God and thus created religion in the process. I’m not encouraging people to lose their religion or belief in God, but it’s these sort of things that people cling to for no real reason other than out of tradition and fear. I hope Alex will focus more on the true issues at hand and not keep publishing and posting smut such as this article.
Genesis
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Ge 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Ge 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Ge 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Ge 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Ge 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Ge 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Ge 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Ge 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Ge 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Ge 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Ge 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Ge 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Ge 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Ge 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Ge 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Ge 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Ge 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Ge 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Ge 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Ge 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Ge 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Ge 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
NO, THIS SAYS GOD MADE MAN!
April 18th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Ge 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Ge 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
THIS PART MY HELP ALSO!
April 18th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Mini 14…The Bible says alot of things. Do you enjoy pork and shellfish? Because if so, beware it is an abomination to God. That’s the logic of the Bible. The Bible is by no means fact. It is simply a text loosely based on historic events, full of allegories, interesting prophecies, and actually great literature when not taken so seriously. Can you prove God created man without using an unreliable historic anthology? If you can, it will be the single greatest scientific discovery in history. Good luck, peace and light.
April 18th, 2008 at 1:49 am
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Damien666 Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Mini 14…The Bible says alot of things. Do you enjoy pork and shellfish? Because if so, beware it is an abomination to God. That’s the logic of the Bible. The Bible is by no means fact. It is simply a text loosely based on historic events, full of allegories, interesting prophecies, and actually great literature when not taken so seriously. Can you prove God created man without using an unreliable historic anthology? If you can, it will be the single greatest scientific discovery in history. Good luck, peace and light.
If Jesus was to come this very moment and perform miracles, most people still won’t believe it was true. It was the same then as it is now!
Bible is by no means fact you stated what part?
April 18th, 2008 at 1:58 am
I’ll post again to reiterate: How many of you are thinking that a rise of 50% “vastly” increases your risk of HIV from blood transfusion?
The risk is around 1 in 2,135,000. If the risk increased by 100% it would increase to 2 in 2,135,000. So, a 50% increase raises your odds to 1.5 in 2,135,000.
If you are ever in need of a blood transfusion – and I hope none of you are – then a suggest you take these odds.
A pint of blood can save up to 3 lives.
Get back in your prams…
April 18th, 2008 at 2:03 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18827137/ it is a VERY high risk group of people! Testing is not 100% capable! Why take the risk?
April 18th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Mimi 14…Most scientists agree the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. The biblical timeline would put that much closer at something around 7000 to 10000 years old. That is one of many inaccuracies of the Bible. Peace and light.
April 18th, 2008 at 2:09 am
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Damien666 Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Mimi 14…Most scientists agree the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. The biblical timeline would put that much closer at something around 7000 to 10000 years old. That is one of many inaccuracies of the Bible. Peace and light.
Please state that to Preacher! He has an endless list of scientist that state differently!
April 18th, 2008 at 2:15 am
Mimi 14…I would be happy to state this to whoever Preacher might be. Maybe he can explain how his beliefs account for all the ice ages, mass extinctions and evolution we’ve had over the billions of years. Peace and light.
April 18th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Christian.
If i am ever in need of a blood transfusion (& i hope i’m not),no way would i take blood that may have a biological weapon in it.Especially because of political correctness.
I’d rather die there & then than die a slow horrible death from aids.
The u.n. introduced it (in vaccines) to Haiti which was a ‘mecca’ for homosexual men,you could buy a child for literately peanuts,i know it’s horrible buts that the sad truth of it.
They knew homosexuals would go home & spread it,need i say more?
o.k. i’ll say more,why did the Rothschilds co’ bayer knowingly ship out blood laced with the aids virus,killng every haemophilliac infected by them?and……………………….
HOW COME THEY GET AWAY SCOT FREE EVERY TIME?
Shut the #### up & climb back in your pram christian.
April 18th, 2008 at 2:39 am
People want to believe in HIV as the “cause” of AIDS for the exact same reason that they want to believe that bin Laden’s terrorists we behind the 911 attacks. “Don’t tell me my government is lying, I just CAN’T believe that this could be true,” Facts be damned! I TRUST the media and the government, because they wouldn’t lie about something so big as this!”
Watch this video: HIV=AIDS Fact or Fraud and AIDS Inc.
10 scientific reasons why HIV can NOT possibly be the cause of AIDS, what the REAL causes are, why toxic drugs cause AIDS themselves, and WHO is really behind this terrible fraud! http://www.aidsfraudvideo.com This has cost ever US citizen $1,000 each—300 BILLION Dollars
April 18th, 2008 at 2:41 am
http://www.godandscience.org/a.....faith.html here is some of them! I can’t remember the name (there were hundreds) of the Scientist that wanted to have a debate on national television with evolutionist. The evolutionist would not part take WHY?
April 18th, 2008 at 2:49 am
gaz Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Christian.
If i am ever in need of a blood transfusion (& i hope i’m not),no way would i take blood that may have a biological weapon in it.Especially because of political correctness.
I’d rather die there & then than die a slow horrible death from aids.
The u.n. introduced it (in vaccines) to Haiti which was a ‘mecca’ for homosexual men,you could buy a child for literately peanuts,i know it’s horrible buts that the sad truth of it.
They knew homosexuals would go home & spread it,need i say more?
o.k. i’ll say more,why did the Rothschilds co’ bayer knowingly ship out blood laced with the aids virus,killng every haemophilliac infected by them?and……………………….
HOW COME THEY GET AWAY SCOT FREE EVERY TIME?
Shut the #### up & climb back in your pram christian.
I know a man the was a Doctor in Africa, I do not remember where, but he was there when HIV started to break out! He kept good records and still has them. He wrote to the New England Journal of Medicine, and many other places of his findings. He was threatened and told to KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT! They never did post any of his findings. If someone would like to look at his records or do an interview with him, I think he would be happy to do so!
April 18th, 2008 at 2:53 am
The scientists you listed believed in God. Nowhere does it say they proved God existed. Nowhere does it say the believed the Bible literally and were able to prove all the claims it made. All of the men listed are highly regarded in the fields of science, but this hardly proves anything for either of ours sides.
April 18th, 2008 at 2:56 am
http://www.afajournal.org/2006.....GayWar.asp This shows what the Gays are all about!
April 18th, 2008 at 2:58 am
Homosexuality is possible naturally. There is plenty of docmentation of homosexual and bisexual behavior within the animal kingdom. Leave the Bible on the desk and do some real research.
April 18th, 2008 at 3:37 am
Fools, when they release plagues they are going to release them on all of us. So keep fighting each other on the way down, or set your sights on the top of that capstone.
Your choice.
April 18th, 2008 at 3:51 am
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Brian Wilson Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 2:58 am
Homosexuality is possible naturally. There is plenty of docmentation of homosexual and bisexual behavior within the animal kingdom. Leave the Bible on the desk and do some real research.
THAT IS COMPLETE BULL! THIS FARM KID KNOWS YOUR FULL OF IT! SECOND DO THESE GAYS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ANIMALS. I GUESS THEY ACT LIKE IT!
April 18th, 2008 at 3:55 am
Homosexuality has no more functional purpose than any fetish, since it does not contribute in any way to the successful procreation of the species which is, all garbage romanticism aside the primary purpose of sexual unions.
The only functioning sexual union therefore in a natural sense is heterosexuality. Homosexuality provides for sexual gratification and emotional union perhaps but it does not serve the primary functions from which families and hence our whole society has evolved…procreation of the species.
Like it or not, whether or not it satisfies your personal beliefs or attitudes, from a functional perspective homosexuality is no different than a fetish for socks or bestiality. Therefore whilst it deserves mention in a sex education course for example, it does not deserve to take up around half or more sometimes, of the curriculum in schools as it certainly is here in Oz.
April 18th, 2008 at 3:57 am
The UN is now using it for population control! It’s working!
April 18th, 2008 at 3:58 am
I am floored to find out how many sheople are or support Gays! It will be to their own ruin!
April 18th, 2008 at 4:04 am
sorry to p!ss on your bonfire, but this isnt news over in the uk
ive become a bit disillusioned with this site since it changed format and its continued referencing of ‘the daily (hate) mail’ as a credible source,
April 18th, 2008 at 4:04 am
Ge 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.
April 18th, 2008 at 4:05 am
G-Zis Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 4:04 am
sorry to p!ss on your bonfire, but this isnt news over in the uk
ive become a bit disillusioned with this site since it changed format and its continued referencing of ‘the daily (hate) mail’ as a credible source,
BYE
April 18th, 2008 at 4:10 am
Ge 18:20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
Ge 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
Ge 18:22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.
Ge 18:23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
Ge 18:24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
Ge 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Ge 18:26 And the Lord said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
GOD IS GIVING YOU SODOMITES A CHANCE! Then you call it hate speech! Your nuts!
April 18th, 2008 at 4:12 am
Mini 14, all you have to do is study on the homophile agenda, the brainwashing is deep;y entrenched and apparently effective, alot of people are weak and succumb to their degenerate impulses, it makes me sick, every time I go into a bathroom and the walls are filled with filthy homophile trash, with all the important issues that we are facing, all the morons are driven to scribe on the walls is fag crap, makes me so crappin sick, it is the cult of death and satanism….do what though wilt, just as in the bohemian grove where the retards walk around naked and male prostitutes are sop, they will all burn in HELL.
April 18th, 2008 at 4:16 am
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Fred Jarrell Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 4:12 am
Mini 14, all you have to do is study on the homophile agenda, the brainwashing is deep;y entrenched and apparently effective, alot of people are weak and succumb to their degenerate impulses, it makes me sick, every time I go into a bathroom and the walls are filled with filthy homophile trash, with all the important issues that we are facing, all the morons are driven to scribe on the walls is fag crap, makes me so crappin sick, it is the cult of death and satanism….do what though wilt, just as in the bohemian grove where the retards walk around naked and male prostitutes are sop, they will all burn in HELL.
I how been studying it all night long, and am floored! I never knew it was this bad! They will be burning in HELL if they don’t REPENT and change their ways!
April 18th, 2008 at 4:26 am
Gay people used to be open minded – now they are used as tools to restrict free speech against gays.
What a joke, people are so easily manipulated and used…
April 18th, 2008 at 4:52 am
In Reply to G-ZIS and his comment;
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G-Zis Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 4:04 am
sorry to p!ss on your bonfire, but this isnt news over in the uk
ive become a bit disillusioned with this site since it changed format and its continued referencing of ‘the daily (hate) mail’ as a credible source,
The Daily Mail is used as a reference tool only, as England is the model police state, having 4 million cameras in place and so called “HATE CRIMES” laws that are totally communistic,such as in Canada, etc. What other paper should be used as a reference???, The fricken Detroit News?? Get a life and come to grips with reality! And really, I dont think you will be missed on this site. We like to hear whats going on in the world! Hey, I have a better Idea, if you dont like this site, start your own!!!
April 18th, 2008 at 4:52 am
It’s peculiar to me that no one associates homosexuals with pedophilia with all the homos that have raped young boys repeatedly, propagating more homos, seems people would want to protect their children against this scourge,”boys and girls,” but no, they are willing to sacrifice their children as Alex is now speaking of, sacrifice themselves to this repugnant 4th reich, they can all kiss my grits!
April 18th, 2008 at 5:13 am
who gives a fuck!
April 18th, 2008 at 5:32 am
[Geez, stop the censorship... AGAIN! I didn't say anything in this comment that you would disagree with, yet why is it still subject to remaining in "moderation" almost twelve hours after I originally posted it?! So I'll try again:] See, that’s what I mean (as spoken about free speech in another thread), so much for free speech, the right(s) of (a) journalist(s) to give the other side of stories or issues, and/or for people to freely express opinions. Remember the contradictory “Universal Declaration of Human Rights”? Article 19 thereof states, “EVERYONE has the right to FREEDOM OF OPINION and expression; this right includes FREEDOM TO HOLD OPINIONS WITHOUT INTERFERENCE, and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas THROUGH ANY MEDIA AND REGARDLESS OF FRONTIERS”! [SEE “Committee to PROTECT Bloggers” (which is back as of six or so months ago, after discontinuing about a year or so ago), at: http://www.committeetoprotectbloggers.org/ . Welcome back, and thank God you are back in operation, Committee to Protect Bloggers!!]
It goes to show that these “powerful Western ‘democracies’ (aka ‘demonocracies’ {sic})” can violate international law(s) with immunity and impunity, because such law(s) was and/or were meant to look good “for show”, and weren’t ever really meant to be fully enforced except when they are convenient to bash and destroy those which such powers that be want to silence and/or destroy. Doesn’t it just make you sick, as it does me?! The “New World Order United Nations (NWOUN)” have every intention, and are, doing away with such free speech as they themselves fraudulently codified into law as supposedly being protected!! Nothing is as it appears on the surface with the “NWOUN”; but, Man, how good they are at fooling most people, just as the ultimate deceiver, the devil/Satan/Lucifer, and their ultimate “god” and “Commander-in-Chief”, is!!
April 18th, 2008 at 5:47 am
WHICHEVER FOOL REPORTED PAUL NEEDS TO READ AIDS & EBOLA EMERGING VIRUSES… BY DR LEN HOROWITZ…I CANT IMAGINE THAT PAUL IS TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE IN THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY AT ALL SIMPLY STATING FACTS…THE MAIN GROUPS TARGETED/SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE DISEASE ARE THE BLACK AND GAY COMMUNITIES…THATS NOT A QUESTION ITS A FACT!!! DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU CALL THE POLICE ON SOMEONE.
April 18th, 2008 at 5:55 am
Good – so he should – it would NOT raise the risk of H.I.V by 50% – that is complete horseshit and you know it. It’s just your ring-wing homophobic crap.
All blood is tested before transfusion already so there would be nothing to worry about. You say it as though all gay men would suddenly rush to give blood and most of them are infected.
I’m a straightman if I needed a trasfusion I would trust in the system to not give me A.I.D.S because I know what it goes through first.
Straight people are almost as likely to H.I.V/A.ID.S as everyone else – here in the U.L straights make up up for over 35% now so stop talking out your ass.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Will this really increase the risk of aids? Hasn’t aids spread to both sexual orientations now, anyway? Maybe this article is a little bit homophobic. How about you guys show a little bit of evidence?
April 18th, 2008 at 6:02 am
This article may destroy Alex Jones and the Watsons. I do not support this article though I do support fighting the New World Order.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:06 am
The truth hurts.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:14 am
Maybe if they used EVIDENCE instead os BULLSHIT, this wouldn’t be happening. Watson deserves everything that comes from this article as it was not a typical article. It was not fighting against the new world order.
It is a random article that has no basis in reality and draws the conclusion, LITERALLY OUT OF THIN AIR, that this would make the HIV risk go up exponentially.
PAUL, WHERE IS THE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH MISSING FROM THE ARTICLE THAT PROVES YOU ARE A JOURNALIST AND NOT A FUCKING NUT CASE??????????????
April 18th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Clever boy Watson. A great way to dis-credit the ‘truth movement’
Wake up people AJ/Watson are not what they seem.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:22 am
“If thou wanna be my lover, thou shalt getteth with my friends.” -SPICE 3:16
April 18th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Oh for the love of pete. Take the FN blood then burn it, if it has HIV or any other crap.
Publicly report who has has what in the paper for all to see.
Then we will see how many carriers what to give blood.
I hope the fools test the blood before they slam it into someone.
Hate crime this, hate speech that. What a bunch of crybabies.
Free speech will never die for me. The Bush regime can pass all the ACTs they want for the world.
I would hate any Mother F’r who would pass on AIDS knowingly.
I don’t give two bits what the hell consenting Adults do in the privacy of their own home.
Any respectable person who has something, would not want to donate it to others.
FU FEDS!
April 18th, 2008 at 6:25 am
#533 Jeff -This article may destroy Alex Jones and the Watsons. I do not support this article though I do support fighting the New World Order.
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Why? If gays are that powerful, I think it’s time to start joining Westboro Baptist Church. Maybe buy some rope and reinforced truck bumpers.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:30 am
I think this is going to do for fags what netanyau does for zionists. Who was all the voice overs on the fake 9/11 amature videos? “Oh, my gawd!!!” is not a phrase often used by straight males.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Personnaly, I don’t care if someone is gay or not. Just don’t push it on me. Hate speech is a bunch of crap! As long as I am still entittled to my opinions no matter what I may think or say, I don’t care. I thought the article was quite well written and if Paul should get introuble for this then that is wrong. Sticks and stones may break my bones but names can never hurt me. but of course if you are politicly correct you would not agree with me on that one. Once you start beliving everything that you are taught, you will never be able to find the truth. Wakeup.
Does anyone recall just how many cases of people receiving transfusions get tainted blood?
It still happens and will always continue to exist. Do you like seeing two grown men kissing at the mall?
April 18th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Those denying AIDs is rather ignornat as it has killed millions across the planet through other diseases. The bug chasing queers are mentally ill. For those who believe you know more than Alex Jones, please excuse yourselves from his websites and radio show. No one is going to miss your insignificant contributions to the movement.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:34 am
I don’t care if you are gay/straight or bi – shouldn’t they test the friggin blood first??!!
April 18th, 2008 at 6:36 am
Damien666 says “The Bible says alot of things. Do you enjoy pork and shellfish? Because if so, beware it is an abomination to God. That’s the logic of the Bible.”
666 – Many things we are told to do in the Bible are/were for our own good. We now know that Trichinosis was common then and made it dangerous to eat pork. We also know that sewage easily taints oyster and shellfish beds. Raw sewage was commonly run directly into the ocean in those days. So, it seems to me that this is further proof of the wisdom of the Bible and at the very least is logical.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:39 am
To all the fags threatening to leave the truth movement:
Good riddens. The neo-cons and zionists are much more your type. You are they and they are you. I wouldn’t give blood if I had the flu and you morons want to give AIDS to innocent people?
You are murderers and morons, not just gay. Same morons who threw infected needles at Frank Zappa while he supported you retards by exposing the NWO creating AIDS. You fags are worthless shit, period.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:44 am
there are a lot of fags out there that like to spread there diseases, take a look at some of the faggot crews in San Fran Cali that chase around looking to get infected…..fuckin homos…..the bible predicts when shit like this is excepted it is a sign of the endtimes… every fuckin gay marriage should be protested and not shared with God in any way shape or form, especially in a fuckin church…there is no room in society for these twisted fucked up individuals….if you believe in god and you believe in his words, then you can not except faggots, sorry to tell you, I’m not spreading hate, I’m telling it like it is. I don’t redicule faggots, I don’t associate with them, whatever gets your rocks off, if some man wants to go out and suck dick, whatever bud, it’s your soul that will rot in hell and serve satan for eternity, not mine….society has manipulated the bible to the full extent, when I hear people say that God loves everyone and would except two men or two women getting married it makes me sick to my stomach, that is just not true and goes against our lord, and when he reigns upon the earth, a lot of people will perish, even the dumb ass blind sheep that think he would accept it…..if you have read the bible, you should know that god is not exactly a being that takes kindly to those who oppose and go against him….think about it……fags will rot in hell…they say they are born that way…no, they aren’t, unless their mother smoked meth while pregnant, they aren’t born that way, people who realize they are gay at a young age are exposed to that sort of behaviour during developmental stages of their life and don’t realize it because they were too young to remember………..and those who doubt that the government would spread aids through blood transfusion need to wake the fuck up….the government created aids, these are the same fuckin people who you all agree want to reduce the global population, yet you doubt they would do this? Hypocrites, this is EXACTLY what they would do…..fuckibn blind sheep that think they are awake, when in reality, they are still as brainwashed as the clown who believes 9/11 official storey…check yourself
Way to go Watson, keep spreading the word, not the virus!!!
April 18th, 2008 at 6:49 am
This is F*cking Awesome. So many of Alex’s fans think for themselves and realize somethings fishy when he uses his power to tie PERSONAL issues with gays with things like foreign policy and gen mod foods.
If Alex was really secure with himself (he has literally said on the show “I’m not insecure”) he wouldn’t go on air bragging about how much testosterone he has like how he did last week, not to mention his favorite put down being “that dude looks effeminate and weak!”. Maybe he’s just telling himself this cause he’s so fat he’s adrogynous.
…and what’s with a straight dude that doesn’t like lesbians? If people are gay because of the milk they drank when they were young (2 weeks ago show) why doesn’t he wage war against the farmers instead of fighting with a bunch of homos that would otherwise side with him.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:51 am
All the homophobes here write like they have a 2 digit IQ.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Fred Phelps helped blacks get civil rights. What do fags do? Help give people AIDS and spread peversion in music and media. Little kackling fag and lesbo sadistic witches. You and the zionists make millions of dollars in hollywood and cry about your rights…pffffft.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:56 am
#548 Targetmaster Cyclonus
…and what’s with a straight dude that doesn’t like lesbians?
- A decent God fearing married one.
If people are gay because of the milk they drank when they were young (2 weeks ago show) why doesn’t he wage war against the farmers instead of fighting with a bunch of homos that would otherwise side with him.
- He and others do and you show your fag appreciation by wanting to give everyone AIDS.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:58 am
and who would want nuts who want to give everyone AIDS on their side? Get lost. Go to bend over to your butch neo-cons.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:00 am
If hetros were to have health problems that would be detrimental to blood recievers, the reaction by the straight people would be NOT to contribute blood. And anyone who would take offense would be laughed to oblivion.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:01 am
This Wiccan is not lesbian. I don’t think orientation though is a reason to attack anyone. I have friends who are gay/lesbian and are decent hard-working people. The arguments and slamming presented here are unintelligent, sadistic, and redundant.
We are ALL in the same boat here people. It isn’t just AIDS. It’s Hep B and C. It’s MRSA and VRE. Tuberculosis is returning. It’s various cancers on the rise!
WE ARE FACED WITH MAJOR DISEASES ACROSS THE BOARD! They have nothing to do with gender preference. We are being made sick by pharmaceutical companies and the government for PROFIT. Period.
I don’t give a rats arse how AIDS or any of these others are caused. I have to deal with people horribly ill as an end result. I have patients on dialysis as young as 4 months old. My older patients are riddled with diseases and super-bugs far worse than HIV at this point. Try clostridium difficile and see how face and debilitating this bug can get!
Stop attacking the sick and work on prevention. Put the fault where it belongs, on our government.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:05 am
The fags won’t support the truth movement no more…LOL! The priority is truth and God supporting us, not AIDS spreading nut jobs.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:10 am
#554 Black Feather Says:
Stop attacking the sick and work on prevention. Put the fault where it belongs, on our government.
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Tell it to the fags who want to spead aids and put Paul Watson in jail. His article was about working on prevention and putting the fault where it belongs, on our government.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Well this article has served two purposes. Divide us all and discredit us all. It’s achieved on both counts.
To you homophobics – Seriously, I think you protest too much. I’ll spell that out for you guys who were barely stringing your homophobic sentences together. You react in such an extreme way because maybe you’re a little insecure in your own sexuality? Live and let live please now.
Why cant people just get on with their own business. How are gay people actually affecting you…and I mean really affecting you? You’re aiming your anger against people who are just following emotion. Shouldn’t that anger be more effectively vented towards the real issue’s i.e. 9/11
Cant you people see the woods from the tree’s. These comments were designed to get you all pissed off with each other and faction you up. Don’t fall for it…stick to the important issue’s…don’t just have an opinion because Alex Jones shouted it at you on his radio show or Watson blurted utter waste material on this website. Use your own brains or we’re gonna be led completely down the wrong path!
April 18th, 2008 at 7:17 am
I’m Autistic, should I be for putting more mercury in vaccines? Certainly NOT!. Because I’m morally superior to the cazy fags who want to put Paul Watson in jail and put AIDS in the blood supply.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:24 am
What you fags got to say about that? I’m Autistic. We get picked on and abused. Should I complain that Alex wants mercury removed from vaccines and the water? Or should I wish all children have Autism? Should I demand books and school instructions on rocking and not liking groups of people? How dare they hang around in groups…. LOL! More mecury in the shots, damn it!
April 18th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Dear Forumn,
Homosexuality is sin according to the bible and the Bible is the word of God. These perverts are trying to use hate speech laws to silence Christians and anybody else who challenges the gay agenda.
Leviticus 18:22
April 18th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Please actually read watsons article before talking about how much you support gays. its totally irrelevant who you support. Watson accurately pointed out the FACT that the risk of AIDS contamination in the blood supply would increase drastically. Why is that homophobic?? Do all gays have AIDS?? No. The argument many of you are making is absurd and ignorant.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:29 am
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April 18th, 2008 at 7:30 am
You are Autistophobic wanting to remove mercury from vaccines. I got to complain like the fags. I want all children to have Autism so my feelings don’t get hurt. How dare Alex make Autism out to be bad…LOL! I want kids to read a new book in school.. my rocking mommy and daddy who like to be alone for days.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Too bad, you’ve gone down that route. You now have lost all credibility. It’s only part of a series of little things, but this shows you for what you are. A fucking idiot who is NOT helping.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Well, I’m reacting to the commentaries to this article. I understand what the article said. My comment about putting the blame where it belongs was aimed at the rest of you.
The hate crime argument could easily fall on any of you here who posted ‘fags’ etc. It can also fall on neo-nazis or anyone else who publishes what can be called ‘hate-speak’ because it does incite hatred.
Look at the comments here. There is a lot of hate in them. Guess the article stirred that up didn’t it?
The real issue here seems to be that of freedom of speech, not what the man said. It’s a small step from labeling something ‘hate speak’ to attacking anyone for putting a comment on web forums. It won’t be too long before you can be put in jail for stating that our government is ruled by the rich.
Personally I don’t care that homosexuals have a higher incidence of HIV. Sexual diseases are on the rise in all populations and growing rapidly in the teen populations. We are in trouble all the way across the board. That was MY point. Quit putting your ‘homo-blinders’ on and see the real picture. Yes, that was addressed to all of you–not the author of the article.
April 18th, 2008 at 7:48 am
It shocks me to see so many anti gay comments that are justified by biblical references from the old testament. To base moral codes on a book written by bronze age nomadic tribes is utter nonsense. I don’t recall Christ condemning anyone for being homosexual. He did say, let he without sin cast the first stone.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Question: During all this hub-ub about the human genome project, have the scientists involved ever come out and said “We have done it. We have found the gay gene.”? …………………………… I don’t think so. (If anyone knows differently please let me know.) Point being: Gays CHOOSE to be that way. Period. End of story. (according to the DNA map)
So if they are free to choose to do and say what they think is fine, should we not be allowed the same?
All this science these days…..sheesh. I love how people use science to justify their position on certain subjects. i.e. Evolution, global warming, car pollution and so on. But if we use our most modern science on this DNA subject, does it not count? Is this science not valid? I am serious here, someone please enlighten me.
So if our position in this life that being gay is wrong, are we not free to support our views just the same as the gays support their own? After all, science has proved it.
Can we have an anti-gay parade.
Can we teach anti-gay themes in school?
Can we choose not to let gays in to certain sects of society?
Can we choose not to hire gays?
Can we choose to say that being gay is risky behaviour?
Can we choose to say that we don’t want any gay blood because of that risk?
Can I choose not to risk my childs life with infected blood?
Apparently not…..
Now before you go off and say “it’s all tested first” and “they would never do that” and “don’t be stupid”. Has this subject even come close to hitting home for you? Because it has for me. My little cousin Jack had hemophilia, (blood can’t clot) and needed a transfusion to save his life. He was infected with HIV and now is no longer with us. Incredibly sad for the whole family, that a young man not even done with high school was taken from his family.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:11 am
#560 @ watchdog
Well you miss my point. You say they’ve pushed the gay agenda…I think that’s a weak point…can you explain to me exactly how they have done this? If your point is that the ‘elite’ are behind the agenda, surely it isn’t the gay people that you should be aiming your frustrations at…it’s the ‘elite’ or ‘NWO’. Are you that short-sighted? If you’re just hating gay people because or their sexual orientation then surely you are indeed against freedom of expression or free speech which I understand that you are all for? I don’t think Watson should be arrested, neither do I think he will be…it’s hype…well done for falling for it!
My brother’s gay and he isn’t the stereotype you like to portray. You think he shouldn’t be part of the 9/11 movement?…Jesus, he woke me up to it initially and I’ve done my part to spread the word so where does that leave your argument? I’m aloud to be part of the movement but my brother who introduced me isn’t? So allow your generalisations and your ‘fag’ hating because it gets you no-where believe me. The sooner you let go these silly misconceptions the better.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Gonna cut off my internet again when you lose? BOOOOOO, I’m so scared…LOL!
I’m Autistic and totally 100% against mercury in vaccines. So, why do fags want to put AIDS in the blood supply and Paul Watson in jail? Not one is screaming to be against it. Just crying about their selfish agenda. We’ll I say the signs and I’m not afraid of anything. You fags can go to hell!
April 18th, 2008 at 8:19 am
Dear macdee, I havent read this whole thread yet but you said “I don’t recall Christ condemning anyone for being homosexual”. Now i dont claim to be a bible scholar, but as soon as i read your words Sodom and Gommorah came to mind. Weren’t they, the people of S & G condemmed for homosexual acts and isn’t that where the word sodomy comes from.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:21 am
While I’m sorry you lost your child to such a thing, I have to tell you that ANY blood can be infected. I give blood daily to dialysis patients. I have to monitor for reactions throughout the procedure and up to 48 hours after. That’s just for an allergy reaction! Now I’m sorry, but they test blood from ANY donor because ANY donor can be diseased. Your son may have received blood from even a wife acquiring HIV from her husband and his affairs.
The moral blinders do not work. As soon as you have increased sexual activity of any kind, you have an increased risk of disease.
As far as your list:
Can we have an anti-gay parade.
Can we teach anti-gay themes in school?
Can we choose not to let gays in to certain sects of society?
Can we choose not to hire gays?
Can we choose to say that being gay is risky behaviour?
Can we choose to say that we don’t want any gay blood because of that risk?
Can I choose not to risk my childs life with infected blood?
Take out the word gay and put in ANYTHING else. Try adding the word blacks, or maybe women. How about Jews. How about Wiccans.
See the problem? It’s been repeated over and over throughout history and has led to nothing but suffering, death, and the respective countries doing this having a tighter hold on their people. People used to think they got stupid from hanging around black people!
I don’t care if being gay is a choice or genetic issue (I’ve seen it in horses where it was genetics–University of Minnesota has done studies on this). What I do care about is that people are advocating blame, violence, and hatred in a time WHEN WE CAN’T AFFORD THIS!
Ever hear of divide and conquer?
April 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Sould I be offended that Alex called someone a retard? Even though the point he made had zero to do with me or Autism. At least I have better reasoning than most for a retard and bigger gonads for a scrawny lil’ retard. Wanting to put AIDS in the blood supply would be like me wanting to put mercury in vaccines. But I guess dispite being Autistic, I’m still a man!
April 18th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Christ is condemning you for wanting to kill people by putting AIDS in the blood supply.
Alex said retard and I still listen to his show and fully support the truth movement. I care more for others than my own personal agenda. I get no pleasure seeing children being Autistic from vaccines. The complete opposite. Why do gays want to put people at risk by putting AIDS in the blood supply? And twist Paul Watson’s news story to put him in jail. Must be you are a bunch of sadists. There is no other conclusion. So, who cares if you leave the truth movement?
April 18th, 2008 at 8:29 am
Gay blood check
Iv Drug user blood <—– next
Come on its not I am afraid to have gay blood in me it might make me gay.
It’s that it might make me sick and I have no problem with gay people.
Would gay people like to receive blood from an iv drug user, it is common sense to
not to accept blood from a hi risk group that has had a higher risk of carrying aids/hiv
Hep-A, -B. You can’t even donate blood ever if you visit some 3 world countries.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Ok, what I don’t get is, isn’t there too huge a liability for the GOV. of England to think they can get away with not testing each and every blood sample regardless of sexual pref? I mean ever since Arthur Ashe, even our dumbed-down society (America), was able to cogently ask about how pathetically simple and blatantly obvious it should be, that they should be testing every sample they receive. Im sure your experts’ study is true. Makes sense since woman or anyone “receiving” sex is exponentially more prone to contract AIDS. Where this article takes a dangerous step too close to misinformation is his expert state’s that because homosexuals are more prone to GET AIDS that that means their gonna all rush out and try to spread the virus by deciding to donate blood, THEN the individual who handles the sample plus the individual who gets tests on the same sample plus their boss all must be co-conspirators. And One thing I got from this site that I still subscribe to is that it’s compartmentalized. I won’t argue whether or not its their choice to be gay, or whether they are getting AIDS at a much more accelerated rate than heterosexuals. What I will argue is that all these people involved (none of whom are “elitist”) decide to perform eugenics on the Brits. I don’t know, maybe there is such a lack of testing and covering of their asses but to me, I think if this is so, than there must be numerous HeteroSexual blood samples that are contaminated and untested as well. Take into consideration your stat that 50% new cases from gay’s then those hetero’s have less motivation to even check whether or not they are infected. At which point you have an unsuspecting heterosexual’s unknowingly contaminating society, which seems more likely than Gay’s desperately trying to carry out the Globalist’s agenda, with no such benefits to themselves. I don’t want to hear about gays in S.F. Wanting to contract AIDS, because although their “might, might” be some shred of truth to that, I don’t believe Gay’s, in general, behave in that manner. It’s not because I don’t want to face the truth, its because I know many gay people and aside from persecution from people afraid of them, they kinda just want to have fun like the rest of us. Whats keeping me from totally disagreeing with you, Mr. Watson, is because I do think there is a chance your Gov. (any of our Gov’s), might “forget” to check certain samples” . But to pose it in a manner that very easily leads to the assumption of gays foaming at the mouth, dying to give you AIDS (no pun intended), is taking this issue abit too far. Maybe I read into this too deep. I am not totally up to speed on British Affairs, I just take the risk of assuming that your Gov’s Hubris is not that bold. I have a counter-question, supposing all this is true: What does that say about the British People that they don’t find it weird that blood samples are not being tested on a 100% basis?!?!
April 18th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Q: 578. Ok I can side with you that there is most definitely an agenda being pursued by NWO regarding the plurality of all sexual preferences, but how does mean that all those gays ( who, lets face it, aside from the closet gay’s from Bohemian Grove, none of these people are elitist’s), are intentionally going along with the NWO’s agenda? And not only them, but the low level assnt, plus their slightly higher pay-grade scientist, plus that scientists’ supervisor all throw out testing of homosexual’s samples? And if the gay’s are doing it unsuspectedly (that is, they didn’t know they have AIDS), and they weren’t apart of the states design to euthanize us all, wouldn’t it be less difficult if the state just didn’t test any of the blood samples? Hey you might get some new virus that really knocks down the population numbers. I just stick to what can be battled, and this system you guys are subscribing to is not the compartmentalized only a few at the creme’ have the answers and goes to an unbelievable level of ignorance in the people. I happen to agree that all our societies are becoming dumb at a staggering rate, but to not question the simplicity of 100% testing on ANY AND ALL samples is just d-u-m-b. I gotta think, though I don’t know, that the British people have at least that much sense about them left.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Dear Magna 573….
The story of Sodom and Gamorrah is from the OLD TESTAMENT and as such, writings for bronze age nomadic tribes. The New Testament is Christ’s teachings and not once does Christ preach against homosexuality.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Paul Joseph Watson’s logic is flawed. The statistics he cites are used to paint an unrealistic picture. There would not be a 50% rise in the likelihood of people getting AIDS if homosexuals were allowed to give blood.
Here is why:
-All blood donations, regardless of what sexual orientation you are, are screened for HIV antibodies.
-Homosexuals with HIV/AIDS do not have a super strain of the virus that would somehow not be detected in these tests
-Sexual preference cannot be determined from looking at someones blood…ie there isnt a blood type “O negative-homo”…Infected homosexual blood would be disposed of just like infected heterosexual blood is.
Also, if I were a gay blood-donor living in the UK, i would feel discriminated against.
That would be like banning prisonplanet/infowars viewers from participating in text-message voting after a Fox GOP debate because the votes would have a 50% increased chance of misrepresentation of Ron Paul support, due to the fact that may of the people voting are
a) not US citizens and
b) will not vote in an actual election based on previously compiled voting data/trends
April 18th, 2008 at 9:00 am
581 macdee Says: not once does Christ preach against homosexuality.
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What does that have to do with over spent rights to put AIDS in the blood supply and Paul Watson in jail? If someone calls me names, I call them one back. Alex said retard, and wants mecury out of vaccines, they are coming with the nazi vans to gas Autisic people…LOL! You fags get off on sadism and power and that’s why you do what you do in the first place. You take the whole thing out of context just to show off what sadistic scum you are.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:02 am
#581 macdee, You are just another sinner who thinks he understands the Bible. Jesus did not come to destroy the law of the Old Testament, but to fulfill. The New Testament refers to the Old Testament hunderds of times. Get yourself an Old King James Bible and read it.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:06 am
The point, I think,… is this: My wife received Hepititus C from a blood transfusion before the age of 1.
You see it was never cost effective to screen blood in 1975-1980. I am an ex-heroine addict, and have seen first hand, what certain choices in behavior can lead to, a greater risk of exposure to HIV / AIDS and Hepititus, just to name two. I cannot donate blood because of a chosen lifestyle, NOR would I choose to risk donating blood that could possibly be contaminated to children or ANYONE. Blood blanks are not 100% fool proof. Why should I because of my chosen extra-curricular activities, have anymore right to force my blood to be given to sick and dying people? as far as Gay is concerned, one of my best friends died at the age of 35 of AIDS related cancer and pneumonia before my eyes.
The Gay community knows how horrible this process can be, because lets face it, out of 7 or 8 gay people that I happen to know over the age of 40; more than 6 are now dead from and 2 are living with HIV /AIDS. Not one of my Straight friends has HIV / AIDS. I don’t think it’s the choice, it’s a responsibility. Being Gay, Straight, BI or Abstinent shouldn’t allow a special freedom from the responsibility of basic logic. in other words… USE YOUR FUCKING BRAINS and FORGET THE MEDIA BULLSHIT THAT STRAYS FROM THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL THIS!!!!!!!!!!! If you behave in a manner that puts your self at risk, do not force anybody to share that risk for your special rights.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:13 am
I think a lot of Christians I talk to want hate crime laws… of course they don’t want it to go against them. More like locking up the Atheists and homosexuals for hating God or something like that! What’s wrong with you? You don’t believe in God? Why do you hate God man? You need to be locked up! You’re dangerous! You got mental issues! You need professional help!
You need to see a Christian psychologist…
Hey you ever hear any of this stuff people??
Well in a free country we should be able to believe what we like!
How about let’s learn to live and let live!
April 18th, 2008 at 9:15 am
I_Know you are incorrect. Christ mentioned “ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MAN KIND”. 2000 years ago the word homosexual was not invented. Obviously the text was verbiage used in that time. You only WISH the bible made no reference, but it does. It also tells the tale of sodom and gomorrah. Read up I_Know – you don’t know nearly enough.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Very well stated Cronos.
MEDIA BULLSHIT THAT STRAYS FROM THE ACTUAL POINT OF ALL THIS!!!!!!!!!!! If you behave in a manner that puts your self at risk, do not force anybody to share that risk for your special rights.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:19 am
#586, You are a figment of your own imagination. True Christians believe in religious freedom and free speech. Don’t confuse people who use the Bible for their own benetit and those who really believe the Bible.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:25 am
#587 WATCHER I_Know you are incorrect. Christ mentioned “ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MAN KIND”. 2000 years ago the word homosexual was not invented. Obviously the text was verbiage used in that time. You only WISH the bible made no reference, but it does. It also tells the tale of sodom and gomorrah. Read up I_Know – you don’t know nearly enough.
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Where is that in Paul Watson’s article? “I only WISH the bible made no reference?” You’re as wacky as a fag.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:26 am
WATCHER, go get your eyes checked. You don’t see nearly enough.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:28 am
584 Preacher….
You are a sinner too! Let him who has no sin cast the first stone.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:29 am
I_Know you spew crap.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:29 am
“Preacher Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:19 am
#586, You are a figment of your own imagination. True Christians believe in religious freedom and free speech. Don’t confuse people who use the Bible for their own benetit and those who really believe the Bible.”
BEST post/comment ever. This is exactly true!!
God Bless.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:31 am
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WATCHER Says:
I_Know you spew crap.
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Like what? You faggot?
April 18th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Another tough talking punk.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Gays are for the NWO and everything they do supports the NWO! Gay people need to leave this movement or change their ways and REPENT!
Gays want people to believe stating the TRUTH is Hate speech! The Gays cooked their Goose with me on this MB! They drove me to do research I would have never done! Thank you for exposing yourselves! REPENT!
April 18th, 2008 at 9:32 am
n hating gays. Gays know aids is high in their community.Why would they want to make a big deal out of this.Seems to me this should be the hate crime.I hate pedophiles but I should allow them to baby sit my children because they may be offended?Is this their way of welcoming us to the world of aids?
April 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
I’m WATCHER, I watch all of you and judge all….LOL! Yea, the only thing you watch is porn.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
There are alot of people spouting tough talk. Many of them are just frustrated impotent youngsters.
Real truthers are more discerning in their speech. It is a very common ploy they use – either attack – or debunk – or complain. SPACE WASTERS
April 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
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Smurf209 Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:29 am
“Preacher Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:19 am
#586, You are a figment of your own imagination. True Christians believe in religious freedom and free speech. Don’t confuse people who use the Bible for their own benetit and those who really believe the Bible.”
BEST post/comment ever. This is exactly true!!
God Bless.
Mini 14 supports these statements 100% also!
April 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
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FREESPEECH Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Another tough talking punk.
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He sure is aint he?
April 18th, 2008 at 9:34 am
And I_Know you come off as a no one. You come off as a kid being used to disrupt the chat. You also criticized Alex’s site. DUMB MOVE
April 18th, 2008 at 9:35 am
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cuda Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:32 am
n hating gays. Gays know aids is high in their community.Why would they want to make a big deal out of this.Seems to me this should be the hate crime.I hate pedophiles but I should allow them to baby sit my children because they may be offended?Is this their way of welcoming us to the world of aids?
80% of pedophiles are Gay!
April 18th, 2008 at 9:36 am
LOL and this is getting old too -
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Your plants do ANYTHING to keep getting attention to your chat. You robot.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Feather Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:34 am
And I_Know you come off as a no one. You come off as a kid being used to disrupt the chat. You also criticized Alex’s site. DUMB MOVE
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Where? Defending him and Paul Watson? Dumb move? What are you gonna do?
April 18th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Next he will be sprinkling stars and asterisks for attention. LOL
April 18th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Feather Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:34 am
And I_Know you come off as a no one. You come off as a kid being used to disrupt the chat. You also criticized Alex’s site. DUMB MOVE
April 18th, 2008 at 9:38 am
You are obnoxious I_Know. I read what you said about Alex. Stupid in a room full of his fans.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:40 am
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Feather Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Feather Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 9:34 am
And I_Know you come off as a no one. You come off as a kid being used to disrupt the chat. You also criticized Alex’s site. DUMB MOVE
I support I_Know, Feather your ways are against My Family, My Country, the Constitution of the United States of America, and my God! You are the enemy!
April 18th, 2008 at 9:43 am
Feather Says: And I_Know you come off as a no one.
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Well, I’m not an arrogant moron who thinks I’m ’someone’.
Can’t argue against my point? Too bad. Some times you lose.
Putting aids in the blood supply or Paul Watson in jail would be like me wanting to take things completely out of context to complain about Alex talking about mercury in vaccines and saying retard because I’m Autistic. But I’m not like you.
April 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am
On and on,the wheels are turnning
the labor of unclean spirits,
Speaking words with hidden meanings
from the U.N. cult of the dead.
April 18th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I CAN’T BELIEVE HOW DIVIDED PEOPLE ARE ON THIS ISSUE!!!! Watson has (bravely) displayed simple mathematics that even the lowest peon can understand: There is definite proof that allowing gays/bisexuals to give blood will greatly increase the risk of HIV contamination of the blood supply.
So the gay rights group thinks that all blood receivers should be put at much greater risk so that the gays can feel more equal? That would seem to make them extremely selfish.
On the other hand, it’s very disgusting to see how many of you quickly turn to immature fag bashing to support Watson’s point. I think you missed his point entirely. Don’t fight one form of stupid logic with another.
April 18th, 2008 at 10:32 am
andrew Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 10:11 am
I CAN’T BELIEVE HOW DIVIDED PEOPLE ARE ON THIS ISSUE!!!! Watson has (bravely) displayed simple mathematics that even the lowest peon can understand: There is definite proof that allowing gays/bisexuals to give blood will greatly increase the risk of HIV contamination of the blood supply.
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Andrew,
-Modern technology (since 1985) allows us to screen blood for HIV antibodies, and it is also mandated by law in developed countries.
-HIV does not morph into some sort of hybrid strain that passes these screening tests undetected, when it infects a homosexual host.
-Gay people can give blood in the U.S. AIDS rates have not “sky rocketed” here.
-Therefore, definite proof DOES NOT exist supporting your/watson’s “peon mathematics”
It would be interesting to see if this law banning gays from giving blood is pre-1985, which would make the law outdated and discriminatory devoid of utilitarian benefits.
April 18th, 2008 at 10:35 am
FACT: For the last 15 years the group with the highest occurrence of AIDS and with the highest rate of new infection in the USA and UK is INTRAVENOUS DRUG USERS….NOT “GAYS”. Is there a law to stop the needle freaks from giving blood? Um…NO.
FACT: If the AIDS/HIV “epidemic” were real wouldn’t there be a whole lot more infected people by now? Um….YES.
FACT: The HIV “virus” has NEVER been isolated in a lab (or anywhere else) and therefore exists only in the realm of Science FICTION.
FACT: Paul Joseph Watson’s article is nothing more then more “gay baiting”, fear mongering “divide and conquer” BS brought to you by your NWO puppets at Prisonplanet/Infowars
April 18th, 2008 at 10:52 am
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macdee Says:
April 18th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Dear Magna 573….
The story of Sodom and Gamorrah is from the OLD TESTAMENT and as such, writings for bronze age nomadic tribes. The New Testament is Christ’s teachings and not once does Christ preach against homosexuality.
The New Testament is the Vaticans manipulation of the Old Testament. Christ is against faggots, otherwise god would have made both sexes capable of reproducing with each other. Animals would be homosexual if it was made to be that way, but it is not. The words of God our lord have been manipulated time and time again by the evil of this world, Satan is on the rise and true faith in the lord is being diminished by mindless souls who buy into the preaching of how God would accept anyone. Thats like saying I can murder 100000 people and rape millions of women, but as long as I accept Jesus into my heart and feel bad for what I did I will be accepted into his Kingdom. It does not work that way. Homosexuality is wrong, and the people who CHOOSE to be that way will perish and live in eternity to serve Satan and him minions
And I am pretty sure that HIV infection can remain undetected up to six months after being infected, or at least that is what the Drs told me 2 yrs ago when I got tested. They asked me specifically if I had been with more than one person in the last 6 months or shared needles, la dee da, all that shit and said if I had I would have to wait because it can remain undetected. So if these fags are sleeping around and sharing needles and giving blood, yeah, there is high chance the virus can go undetected and the poor person on the other end recieving the transfusion has to pay for it.
This world accepts way too much. A lot of people are going to burn in hell. Read your bible, when shit like this is accepted, it is a sign of the endtimes. Homosexuality is against God, there is no arguing that, sorry…it’s not hate-breeding, it’s just the way it is
April 18th, 2008 at 11:02 am
I was also skeptical of Watson’s article…until I read it.. This person who sent the email is deeply confused on the severity of these dangerous procedures who has signed up on the website to find something to “catch” the Infowars team on. Keep up the good fight.
April 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
PERRY, OOOOH PERRRY, PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH:
PERRYS FACT: For the last 15 years the group with the highest occurrence of AIDS and with the highest rate of new infection in the USA and UK is INTRAVENOUS DRUG USERS….NOT “GAYS”. Is there a law to stop the needle freaks from giving blood? Um…NO.
MY FACT: TRY LOOKING AT MORE RECENT STATISTICS, I.E FIGURES FROM THE PAST & YEARS GAY + 50%+ OF ALL NEW CASES, FAAAAAACT. AND WE DONT (IN THE UK) ALLOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE USED DRUGS TO GIVE BLOOD, IF YOU DO ITS USUALLY FOUND WHEN YOUR SCREENED BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SAY HEROIN IN YOUR BLOOD AND YOU GIVE THAT BLOOD TO SOMEONE IT CAN EFFECT THEM, ITS QUITE LOGICAL, BUT OH MY GOD I MUST BE A NAZI BECAUSE MY COUNTRY DOESNT ALLOW JUNKIES TO GIVE BLOOD EITHER, OMG!
PERRYS UN-FACT (SPECULATION): If the AIDS/HIV “epidemic” were real wouldn’t there be a whole lot more infected people by now? Um….YES.
MY ANSWER: PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION, AN ‘UMMM YES’ DOESNT SUFFICE IN A DEBATE.
PERRYS SEMI-FACT: The HIV “virus” has NEVER been isolated in a lab (or anywhere else) and therefore exists only in the realm of Science FICTION.
MY FACT: THEY HAVE NOT MANAGED TO ISOLATE IT COMPLETELY TO SATISFY THE NEEDS OF VIROLOGY. ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE SEEN THROUGH AN ELECTRO MICROSCOPE WHAT THEY ASSUME IS HIV DUE TO THE STRUCTURE WHICH IS EXACTLY AS A RETRO VIRUS, YOU ARE RIGHT THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETELY ISOLATED IT BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARENT RELATED OR THAT THEIR IS SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY.
PERRYS CRAZY LOGIC: Paul Joseph Watson’s article is nothing more then more “gay baiting”, fear mongering “divide and conquer” BS brought to you by your NWO puppets at Prisonplanet/Infowars
MY RESPONSE: NWO PUPPETS? HMM… YES, THEY ARE ENGAGING IN SUPREME DOUBLE THINK BY TELLING YOU HOW TO COMBAT THE NWO AND BY WAKING PEOPLE UP TO THE SCUM, I KNOW BECAUSE AJ WOKE ME UP IN 2000 WHEN ‘DARK SECRETS INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE’ WAS SHOWN ON MAINSTREAM TV, CHANNEL 4 TO BE PRECISE AT A PRIME TIME, THATS 1 OF THE 4 MAJOR CHANNELS IN THE UK.
ANYWAY, WE ARE NOT DEBATING IF HIV EXISTS OR HIV IS THE CAUSE OF AIDS WE ARE SAYING THAT THEIR ARE 7% GAY MEN IN THE UK THAT ACCOUNT FOR 50%+ OF ALL NEW AIDS CASES IN THE UK FROM 2000-2007, IM AFRAID I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE THE RISK OF TAINTED BLOOD IN THE UKS BLOOD BANKS, CALL ME CRAZY BUT THATS THE WAY I AM.
PEOPLE WITH IRON DEFICIANCY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE BLOOD, PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVE TAKEN DRUGS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE BLOOD, DOES THIS MEAN I AM DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE WITHOUT ENOUGH IRON OR THAT IM PLAYING INTO THE NWO’S HANDS???
NO YOU MUPPET.
April 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Christians believe in both the new and old testaments moron.
Any law in the old testament not canceled out by Jesus, still stands.
Jason
April 18th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Let’s not forgert the facts! The government invented aids, that’s a FACT! It kills you the same as their chemical war-far weapons, and I have seen the documents! I will also stick with the Book that deos not and has never lied, The scripture from the Bible, it is an abomination, a disrace, abnormal, and they will not enter the kigdom of heaven, FACT!!! My mother is dead because of a bad blood transfusion, from the bad blood that bill clinton and his partners in crime sold from prison out of Arkansas. She was the finest person I’ve ever known! When these queer promoters and simpathizers get aids from some so called gay person and they are dying, lets se what they think then. Mr. perry L Me and Alex and Steve are NOT new world order puppets, shit for brains!!!
April 18th, 2008 at 11:36 am
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keltik Says:
“MY RESPONSE: NWO PUPPETS? HMM… YES, THEY ARE ENGAGING IN SUPREME DOUBLE THINK BY TELLING YOU HOW TO COMBAT THE NWO AND BY WAKING PEOPLE UP TO THE SCUM, I KNOW BECAUSE AJ WOKE ME UP IN 2000 WHEN ‘DARK SECRETS INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE’ WAS SHOWN ON MAINSTREAM TV, CHANNEL 4 TO BE PRECISE AT A PRIME TIME, THATS 1 OF THE 4 MAJOR CHANNELS IN THE UK.”
WAKE UP you dolts…the Elites WANT a REVOLT so they can justify their subsequent CRACK DOWN. They are in the process of fleshing out the people who are a real threat to them so they know who to kill or round up first.
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keltik Says:
“IM AFRAID I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE THE RISK OF TAINTED BLOOD IN THE UKS BLOOD BANKS, CALL ME CRAZY BUT THATS THE WAY I AM.”
Unlike you I will NOT call YOU crazy (just mis-informed). If you REALLY want to be safe don’t get a transfusion from other peoples blood. If you are going in for surgery donate YOUR blood and insist that only your blood be used if a transfusion is necessary during surgery.
You may also want to look up the history of the Red Cross and blood banks in general since this is yet another Rockefeller enterprise/invention. Just like the Masons do good works in their communities and look like a benevolent organization from the outside the Red Cross is just another aspect of Elitist control and manipulation.
April 18th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Jake, the following statement:
“Let’s not forgert the facts! The government invented aids, that’s a FACT!”
now thats statement you made is not true, i am a infowarrior but to say the giovernment created it is fact is opening yourself up for criticism due to the fact that you have no evidence, im not saying the government didnt create it, im just saying their is no proof either way.
from everything ive seen Perry is a troll.
April 18th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Man,
Listen up closely kiddies.
HIV is the retro virus they say causes AIDS. Here’s where it gets murky. You can have aids without hiv, and you can have hiv and never develop aids. HIV has been around for a LONG time, basically harmless.
AIDS is a collection of symptoms CREATED by the hiv infection. AIDS is not actually a disease, it’s the symptoms of various different diseases, all dealing with immunodeficiency.
This is why someone can have HIV and be worried about devloping aids. until symptoms of disease appear, it’s HIV, once other problems start (various infections from outside sources) the body can’t properly fight them because of the HIV infection, lowered T-cell count, and HIV/AIDS drug treatments, much like cancer treatments.
So, if you wish to argu semantics, anyone with HIV does indeed have aids, they just aren’t sick yet.
The problem lies with the fact that HIV is claimed to be the cause, yet has nothing to do with aids, and you can have one without the other, and vice versa.
Anyways, back on track… I like Watson, but disagree with what he’s stating here for a few reasons…….
He’s not backing any of it up. PLEASE show us the statistics used to come to the 50% risk increase. You can’t go pulling numbers out of your ass. Where does the 50% risk increase come from? Is this because studies show 50% gay population? Well that’s pretty bigotted then, because you can’t assume they’ve got HIV because they are gay. You can’t go around just making crap up, as it makes all of your other, IMPORTANT, articles appear in a new, unfavourable, light.
I don’t agree for a second that this is hatespeech, inciting hate, or any of the likes. He’s expressing a valid opinion, no one is being forced to read or agree with it. No where’s does he say anything close to inciting hate or fear.
I personally think he’s wrong, and wasting alot of valuable time and space ranting about his homophobia, instead of giving us more fact filled articles. I’d love to see the statistics backing his side of the story up, but there aren’t any, and that’s why it’s bogus.
“You are supporters of immoral sodomy.”
And there you have it, the exact track the government WANTS you to take. Do you honestly think that they’d allow anyone to give blood without screening? They tried that here in Canada, didn’t work out very well as it was tainted with HepC and alot of people died.
This is NOT about denying a group of people their rights because you don’t like them, that’s how the holocaust happened, and that’s how the phoney war right now on terror (islam) got underway.
It should matter NOT if the person is gay, it should only matter if their blood passes the screening.
Here’s food for thought, how many of you have give blood, at any time in your life. How many of you get an aids/hiv test every 6 months?
EXACTLY, for all you know, you’ve got aids and are spreading it.
Grow the hell up, if you wanna quote statistics, they’d better damnwell exist.
Watson is a hero IMO, and even if I disagree with his points, we can never let it become a crime to talk about these things. This isn’t Germany, and we’re not talking about the holocaust, so the threat of jailtime should be non-existant.
This just smacks of some of the global warming posts at prison planet.
Ohh, it snowed alot there fore global warming isn’t real. First, global warming IS real, that’s not in debate, the cause is in debate, so you’ve lost all face 1 line in.
But it goes deeper, it was really really cold in india this winter there fore global warming isn’t real. That’s ignoring the fact that global weather patterns are being fucked with, and other areas are experiencing severe drought and heat.
Oh well, there was more snow this year than the past 15, no global warming.
Basic science:
Hotter atmosphere = more evapouration = MORE precipitation, a 5th grader in Canada can figure that one out.
you can’t use half an argument and ignore the rest. Statistics DO show that gay MEN have a higher risk of gettting aids than a straight man. Too bad it doesn’t even come CLOSE to the risk IV drug users have. I don’t recall ever seeing stats saying 50% of gay men have aids.
Jesus, 80 of US college students have atleast 2 stds, don’t see anyone yelling from the roofs to get them blocked from donating.
Or is this all very easily explainable.
Are you actually afraid you might catch ‘the gay’ from the blood? If so, I’d pray for you, but I stopped talking to imaginary friends when I was 6
April 18th, 2008 at 11:42 am
perry you completely ignored my all my other points, i.e. when i debunked ALLLL your claims.
im not saying anything that you assume im trying to say, all imm sayiing is this for the 50th time:
2000-2007, 50%+ of all new AIDS victims were homsexual males within the UK.
Their is only 7% of homosexual males within the UK.
AIDS exist and people die from it, im not talking about HIV im talking about AIDS, two veyr different things.
We dont allow anyone who has taken drugs or who has an iron deficiany donate blood, this does not mean we are discriminating against people who dont have enough iron in their blood or people who take drugs, its simply because it creates a higher risk for problems, exactly the same reaosn why homosexuals arent allowed to give blood.
we are not debating the existence of HIV, or how the rockafellers are involved in eugenics, we are simply stating scientific logic.
April 18th, 2008 at 11:45 am
PHISHY WE ARE NOT FRICKING SAYING THAT IT WILL INCREASE YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING AIDS BY 50% FOR F00k SAKE READ THE FRICKING ARTICLE.
OR RE-READ MY POST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THIS 50% IS COMING FROM, IT MAY BE TOO MUCH FLUORIDE OT MERCURY THAT YOU CANT READ IT PROPERLY.
FOR THE 51st TIME ALL WE ARE SAYING IS THAT:
2000-2007, 50%+ of all new AIDS victims were homsexual males within the UK.
Their is only 7% of homosexual males within the UK.
AIDS exist and people die from it, im not talking about HIV im talking about AIDS, two veyr different things.
We dont allow anyone who has taken drugs or who has an iron deficiany donate blood, this does not mean we are discriminating against people who dont have enough iron in their blood or people who take drugs, its simply because it creates a higher risk for problems, exactly the same reaosn why homosexuals arent allowed to give blood.
we are not debating the existence of HIV, or how the rockafellers are involved in eugenics, we are simply stating scientific logic.
April 18th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Ok…if we are talking about AIDS perhaps you should consider the opinion of the multitude of skeptical Doctors and Researchers who have been trying to expose the AIDS Myth for years.
Please watch this entire film…
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/268.html
FACT: The criteria for diagnosing AIDS is different in the USA, UK , Africa and Asia. In other words the same person could have AIDS in the USA go to UK and be told they DON’T have AIDS. AIDS in Africa is nothing more then a SCAM to sell drugs and cover up the Elitist starvation program. About 3000 Times more money is funneled into the African AIDS programs then is put into the FOOD programs. The people dying of AIDS in Africa are really dying of STARVATION. Why because the money “spent” on drugs goes right back into the bank accounts of the Elites who sell the drugs to fight AIDS…money for food on the other hand just goes into the tummies of the Africans the elites are trying to eliminate. It’s a “quiet” GENOCIDE courtesy of Bono and Bill Gates.
April 18th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
http://www.Khanverse.com/phorum
April 18th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
http://www.Khanverse.com/news
April 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
There is no hatred or ‘hate crimes’ involved in sharing everyday facts so that something can be done about them before we have bigger problems than we already have.
The law is not to protect those who abuse it, as the homosexuals do these who have daily encounters in our public restrooms to leave the virus on our stools and washing facilities,or rendezvouz behind bushes in a then soiled family park, but the law is to protect ourselves and our families from those who don’t have the good sense to know better!
Go for it! And God speed, Paul Joseph Watson. May the judge decree that these imbeciles who are part of a mass hysteria called crowd mentality be brought before the law for inciting panic on the decent and lawful among us! -Al Koppel.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Today Gordon Brown proclaimed the need for a new world order several times on C-span. He is a true believer.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
What a creep Brown is – even us shape-
shifting reptoids hate him.
He is the most over-rated finance minister
that you humans have ever had.
He breath smells terrible to!
April 18th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
I know “HIS breath”
Can you speak reptoid?
April 18th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Okay Perry, if AIDS is a myth–let me tell you what we do in hospitals in America if a person has AIDS or any hepatitis strain.
WE BLEACH THE INSIDE OF THE MACHINES–AND THEY NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH THE BLOOD. The inside only comes in contact with the dialysate fluids that go AROUND the blood.
With other bugs? We use vinegar and then heat disinfection–no bleach.
If AIDS is this big glorified myth why do I have to do this?
Still, to the rest of you. I’ve pointed it out before that we are trying to promote segregating and harming people–which hasn’t worked in the past. Why repeat bad history?
April 18th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I stated this on the original article when it was posted and I’ll say it again.
This whole affair is a non-event. One lone gay man who was refused the opportunity to give blood when his sister was ill and has started a petition. That petition to date has 1,195 signatures from a country of 60m. The one-man crusade was picked up by his local newspaper in Scotland and a few radio stations. Then PJW picked it up and this is the result. 639 posts on a non-event – stay focussed people.
I personally don’t think any ‘at-risk’ person should be allowed to give blood. Which is the current rule in the UK. They are under no pressure to change these rules unless you think one man can change a system.
I’m sure most people on here would agree there are far more important issues to contend with in this world than one aggrieved man. I don’t know what the true intention of the original or this follow-up article was but one thing is for sure it has diverted attention of a lot of people away from real issues.
If you want to furnish gay rights activists with ammunition then you’ve done a great job.
April 19th, 2008 at 2:14 am
well said ROB T.
“I personally don’t think any ‘at-risk’ person should be allowed to give blood. Which is the current rule in the UK. They are under no pressure to change these rules unless you think one man can change a system.” -ROB T
i have been trying to tell these muppets this for 4 days now, we don’t let people with deficiencies in their blood donate either, for example iron.
this doesn’t mean we a discriminating against ‘at risk’ people, or people with a lower quality of blood (i.e. less iron than normal), even people who have taken drugs recently are not allowed to donate blood, doesn’t mean we are discriminating against drug users either, its just because they are at a higher risk.
i don’t understand why its so hard for people to understand this, its like an episode of the twilight zone or something.
April 19th, 2008 at 9:07 am
582 macdee (and others): Why is it people think Jesus the Christ only exists in the New Testament? Where do such people get that idea? Because the name, “Jesus”, isn’t used in the Old Testament? I know the Jehovah’s Witnesses falsely believe differently on this, but check out the Book of John in the New Testament; Chapter 1, Verses 1-3 and 14:
“It is written, thus says the Lord [God in Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God, and the Creator of all things except evil (and the following proves what I just said in brackets)]… ” “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS (and IS) God. The same was in the beginning with God. ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE… AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, AND DWELT AMONG US, (AND WE BEHELD HIS GLORY AS OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF {GOD} THE FATHER), FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH…”! (Parenthesis in John 1:14 added by God; emphasis added by me.)
This is saying Jesus the Christ IS God, that He has existed ’since the beginning’ (meaning that He has ALWAYS been with God and also ALWAYS been God—in other words, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are ALL one and yet separate individuals at the same time), that He IS the Word(s) of God, and that He made or created all things. Who else but Jesus the Christ “…was the Word… was (and IS) God… (and) was made flesh, and dwelt among us…”?
Jesus the Christ is all through the Old Testament. He is the One who spoke everything into existence in the beginning of Book of Genesis. He is the One who spoke to Moses through the burning bush on Mt. Sinai, and wrote the Ten Commandments and other Laws of God. All of the inspired Word(s) in the Old Testament, as well as in the New Testament, are His Word(s). He is the One who inspired great men of God to write them. And He is the One who spoke to the patriarchs and prophets, and others, throughout the Old Testament. Etc.
He IS also the Messiah, which the word, “Christ”, means (Matthew 1:16; etc.), that the Jews rejected, and Who most Jews to this day, other than “Jews for Jesus”, etc., refuse to believe IS the Christ or the Messiah because He did not deliver them from the Romans, etc., the way they expected, etc. In short, Jesus the Christ IS the Old and New Testaments, and He is the embodiment of those Words. He created ALL of us; for, without His Creative Power first creating the processes by which humankind was created, no one thereafter would come to exist.
That is why, among other reasons, ALL human life is so precious, and why Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God, and the Creator of all things except evil, said in the New Testament, “…Verily I say unto you, ‘Inasmuch as you have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, you have done it unto me’…”! In other words, whatever good or bad we do for, or to, our fellow-humankind is done for, or committed against, God Himself, and we ALL will be held COMPLETELY accountable for ALL of it if it was evil, or be rewarded for it if, after we have been Truly, Fully and Completely restored to and transformed by Him, ALL we did was NOTHING BUT good and NOT evil WHATSOEVER.
In summary, Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God, and the Creator of all things except evil, does NOT only exist in the New Testament. Therefore, when He spoke against homosexuality in the Old Testament, the same applies JUST AS MUCH to today and New Testament times! “…Jesus (the) Christ (is) the same yesterday, and today, and forever…”! (Hebrews 13:8; emphasis added by me.)
As Gabriel Alan King alluded to, the only Old Testament laws that were done away with in New Testament times were the Ceremonial-Sacrificial laws (because they pointed to the human life on earth of Jesus the Christ, and His sacrifice for us on the cross; therefore, once he fulfilled those harbingers of His life, death and resurrection, we no longer need to point to that great sacrifice with animal sacrifices).
Jesus the Christ also did away with SOME, NOT ALL, of the Old Testament civil laws (see the following). [He did NOT do away with the health laws (etc.) such as the fact(s) that we are no supposed to eat "unclean meats", etc. (As someone else so wisely said in this thread, those are only common sense, for our own best good, and for the best health of our bodies.)] Otherwise, ALL of the rest of the other Old Testament laws, especially the Ten Commandments, apply just as much to today as they did in Old Testament times!
When He walked this earth as a human being, Jesus the Christ did away with “…(a)n eye for an eye…”, which was so prominent in Old Testament civil law(s). Thus, now, instead of carrying out some of the civil laws in the Old Testament such as stoning (’the death penalty’) and so forth, we are commanded by God to ‘turn the other cheek’, “…(l)ove (our) enemies (and NOT hate them in any way, shape or form whatsoever), bless them (who) curse (us), do (ONLY) good to those who hate (us), and pray for those who spitefully use (us) and persecute (us)…”! (Matthew 5:38-48; emphasis added by me.)
April 19th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Post 639
With the way the spin is going, not much of what you say means very much.
Everyone knows that anything comming even close to God, has been hijacked and rehijacked again and again, rewritten and edited, to meet whomever(s) whims.
If you take any bible seriously, the only thing it’s really worth, is to serve as an “classic example” of how man has been duped time and time again, by the supposed word of God, as edited by the psyop gypsies and leaders of man(fools!!!)
The only thing you need to know today, is who the new dictator and decider is and what the new laws are that are supposed to define freedom & Liberty, as our Constitution & Bill Of Rights are bastardized, the same as every bible ever written and re-written on behalf of the control freaks. What’s happend to our Constitution & Bill Of Rights, should be a real lesson for the Jesus freaks and their bibles.
Any discussion beyond this really belongs to Larry, Moe & Curley to figure out the true meaning of “the word” there of. The bible freaks are INSANE, just like the gays that think playing with each other’s shit is somehow a good thing.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Having once lived in the UK for quite some time, this is not surprising to me.
hopefully Paul can survive this garbage.
April 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Post 641
Ahh, I am far from an idiot and you can’t test blood and always prove someone is negative.
Like many other viral diseases out there, they can be quite difficult to prove through blood testing, if the disease is not actually fibril at the time of testing. This is why it often takes at least four(4) consecutive tests spread out over time, say a year, to determine whether someone is absolutely negative.
As for religion, I have studied it all my life with fascination and comparitvely. They all have the same threads, but with many different twists, depending upon who is twisting it their way at the time it’s being hijacked. It’s really no different than a paten pending GMO apple, that only the owner of the new GMO has rights to, as all other species are then banned and made illegal under penalty of death by the royal family that owns the paten. Thus we have the Patriot Act and evel doers of our times.
As for gays, I personally do not like them. Their illness is the result of human exposure to environmental toxins for over a generation and through utero and so they did not develop properly. I accept their condition as irreparible, however, it’s not their fault and they should be allowed to do what they need to feel better, less forcing their views upon those that are not afflicted. If they want to lip kiss and share a chocolate covered cherry candy after having anal sex, that’s their business, so long as the rest of us don’t have to see it on public TV, or mandated into a national health care policy that puts everyone at their risk level. Sharing live born Gerbels is not my idea of sanity and to be totally candid, someone needs to tell those that use “political correctness” as a weapon to assault the rest of humanity to go to hell. Nor can any male priest rebirth anyone, but only in their twisted queen driven mind can a man with a pail of water impersonate the birth of a child, as the new and improved, cleaner version. This is literally a psyop hijacking of an ESSENTIAL matriarchial role and a deeply seated queening psychosis transfered into a religious ritual. Who are these twisted bastards, other than poor twisted bastards claiming to be great?!
And the poor fools that believe it, are just a bunch of fools. Next we have a bearded lady, three cups and one marble – - -
You might want to try watching Ripley’s Believe It Or Not, before reading the bible next time.
April 19th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Well, I shouldn’t “bite” at this point, but “Blacksmith” is one of those many spoken of here who think they’re awake yet are still part of the mass insanity, in his case the “anti-Christian(ity)” and/or “anti-religion” mass insanity that have been bred into the genetics of generations like the man-made “environmental toxins” that he spoke of, as well as by government-produced “cancer viruses” like HIV, most if not all of the many herpes viruses [particularly HHV-6A Strain GS in common with AIDS and a host of other "dysfunction" and "deficiency" syndromes and/or illnesses like Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS), Lyme Disease (LD) and Fibromyalgia (FMS---all three of which I have)], other STDs, stealth virus(es), mycoplasmas, super-bacterias, neurotoxin poisoning, etc., which along with everything else, GMO foods; hormones in plastic and other food containers, etc.; drug medications (especially pyschotropic ones like “antidepressants”); other food additives like preservatives, artificial colorings and flavorings, MSG, GMO corn syrup, GMO oils, GMO grains, vegetables and who knows what else (much of it, like most nutritional supplements and food additives come from China now and are intentionally being used to poison us, like animals have been with their products); carcinogenic and other-ways-harmful drugs in the water supply (including psychotropics, hormones, antibiotics, fluorides, chlorides, etc.); chemtrails; depleted uranium and other irradiation; etc.; are being used to “genocide” us and make it a wonder, and often a literal God-given miracle, that ANYONE wakes up. Without God’s help in the face of these great odds against us, we are fracked.
That’s why I often say we’ve got to “WAKE ALL THE WAY UP”, because we need to be restored to our “pre-evil condition” with God, which ONLY God can do, along with waking up to political and other things; and, without waking up to God as well, we are only half awake at best, and probably not even that much, if we are awake at all really. In addition, if we aren’t awake ALL THE WAY to God by being completely transformed by and restored to Him, we are still agents of Satan, even if we are awake to other things and “do good works” in the cause of them. Without God, we are screwed. There is no gray area, absolutely no acceptable middle ground, or “half way”, between God and His opposite, evil (much of which even appears to be good). We cannot serve two masters. We cannot serve God and the world, or worldliness. We cannot be half with God and half with the world. We cannot be without God altogether either; and have any hope of redemption from the hell on earth. Separation from, avoidance of, denial of, rejection of, denigration of, and blaspheme of God IS hell; and it is a form of “schizophrenia” in a sense. We were all meant to be, and can ONLY be Truly Happy being, Truly, Fully and Completely restored to our Creator. It is what we came from, and is what we were ONLY meant to be. Separated from it we aren’t a fraction of the good people we can be NOW; and, without that restoration NOW, we WILL lose our souls for all eternity, destroying ourselves with self-centeredness, selfishness, “lusts”, mass-insanity, individual insanity(ies), and hell on earth that we falsely convince ourselves is “normal”, “acceptable”, “the best we can hope for”, “all there is”, “what we’ve just got to make the best of”, etc.
Yes, those who believe in and follow counterfeit-”Christianity”, which is, very unfortunately and sadly, in the majority (i.e., 99.98% of so-called “Christianity”), Catholicism and “ecumenical Protestantism”, are part of a mass insanity as well, and are therefore insane themselves, controlled by Satan whether they know it or not, and mass-deceived into truly believing that the false, fraudulent, counterfeit “Christianity” is the “true one”, “is righteous”, “is the only way to go”, etc. But, as some here like Kurt Nimmo know I often say, though I haven’t said it in awhile, there IS a True Christianity, that is vastly distinct from the counterfeit, so-called “Christianity”, because it doesn’t accept ANY of the false, worldly, man-made interpretations of God and Jesus the Christ’s character, and ONLY seeks to walk, talk and live as He walked, talked and lived. It doesn’t go along with ANY of the “organized”, “institutional(ized)”, fraudulent so-called “Christianity”; but ONLY goes along with the example(s) that Jesus the Christ set, and ONLY seeks to emulate, ONLY by God’s True Help, Grace and Power, that and/or those example(s), and live-out the unspotted character that He lived, continues to live, and has always lived. So “Blacksmith”, et al., reject ALL of the false “Christianity”; but, please, don’t make the grave mistake that far too many make of completely tossing your Maker aside because of the evil example of the majority of so-called “Christianity/Christians”; and please don’t use them, or anything else, as (an) “excuse(s)” [there really is absolutely NO legitimate excuse(s)] for rejecting and turning your back on your Maker. The True is in the extreme minority, so you would be hardpressed to run into it in others, but “run into in yourself”.
April 20th, 2008 at 8:31 am
I think Paul Joseph Watson is a very intelligent guy. I haven’t read an article of his yet that wasn’t pretty much bang on target. As for religion? It has been one of the greatest, if not THE greatest cause of pain, suffering and death the world has ever seen. Human beings are basically animals and we have been persecuting each other since the beginning of time. Gays have been persecuted by religious biggots just as much as anyone else!
The truth is it’s easier to follow someone’s word blindly when they promise you eternal life or great riches or whatever, instead of finding out if it’s true or not, it’s easier. I don’t know if there is a god or not, i suspect not. It seems that most follow religious doctrine because they need to follow something or someone out of fear or because they have been conditioned that way from a young age or simply because they can’t be bothered to think for themselves. Perhaps they don’t trust their instincts and how they feel. I know i’m going to die one day and there isn’t much i can do about that unless i learn how to reverse the ageing process. I’m not scared though. It’ll be just like before i was here, i won’t know anything anyway. Anything that increases the chances of us all getting HIV shouldn’t be introduced, it’s common sense or should i say uncommon sense. If you want to believe in God, that’s fine but don’t force it down everyone elses throats!
May 19th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Political correctness, now what is that? To offend is insulting; it’s an intentional act. I am not politically correct and proud of it. Common sense, I’m talking to you – prevail man, prevail. Anyone who believes not accepting blood from gays is offensive is – guess what – offending the health of the rest of us. There is no good from that kind of thinking. I don’t have a problem with gays or lesbians who are law abiding citizens who honor and respect the rights of others, gays and straights. How can anyone take offense to a law put in place to protect the public? Those great souls with clean blood who donate their blood ought to be offended. Nothing in life that has to do with anyone’s health should be taken for granted. The intent of the law is to protect the public. For anyone to say that a law offends them is offensive themselves. The law and those who made it did not intend to offend anyone; they used common sense to protect the health of the public, including gay and lesbian people who may need blood. Honestly, respecting others goes a long way. Crying about feeling offended is like a crying child. “I’m not happy. I want more attention.” No one is responsible for someone else’s feelings. To those who feel offended, those are their feelings, not the responsibility of anyone else.