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Paul: US election not democratic
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Press TV
October 31, 2008
Congressman Ron Paul has criticized the election system in the US, saying that the system is not very democratic for third parties.
In an exclusive interview with MSNBC, the former Libertarian Party’s nominee for president in 1988 also said that he had no other way except becoming a Republican candidate in 2008.
When asked why he did not try to be the nominee of the Constitution Party or the Libertarian Party in 2008, Paul said, “Mainly because the laws are very biased against some people doing that.”
“Some won’t even allow you to do it. The system is not very democratic for third parties and alternate choices. All the rules and all the laws are written by Republicans and Democrats, and it’s very hard to get into debates,” he added.
“If I hadn’t been in the Republican primary, I wouldn’t get into the debates. It’s very hard to get on ballots, although they’ve done relatively well. It takes a lot of money. They’ll spend half their money just getting on ballots. The system is very biased against competition.”
He added that a large number of Americans do not have a good choice in the November 4 election.
Criticizing two presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, Paul said that both candidates supported the same foreign and monetary policy.
“Unfortunately, the two major candidates aren’t even talking about Syria, Pakistan, and the things that are important,” he concluded.
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October 31st, 2008 at 5:57 pm
So true the game is rigged. Jesse Ventura has said the same thing about the debates; there’s no chance to participate unless you are a two party candidate. Then you have the diebold factor to deal with in the elections.
October 31st, 2008 at 5:57 pm
http://www.rallycongress.com/c.....al-crisis/
October 31st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
The Honorable Congressman has hit the nail on the head yet again. The corrupt two party system we currently have to deal with, often promote a democratic form of government all over the world, many times sacrificing the lives of our Heroic soldiers in order to facilitate this democratic form of government all over the world. Yet as Dr. Paul points out they refuse to allow or accept any form of democracy here at home among their own political elite.
We do not have 2 choices ths election year, we have 3.
1. Cynthia McKinney-Green Party
2. Ralph Nader-Independent
3. Chuck Baldwin-Consitution Party
To think or assume otherwise is extremely dangerous, foolish and naive. Personally, I realize none of these three patriotic candidates have a chance to win, however, I would be content and get some small amount of satisfaction if Obama won the election with an overwhelmingly, historically significant LOW % of the vote. Wouldn’t it be great to wake up on Wednesday morning to find out these were the totals;
Obama 25%
McKinney 24%
Nader 23%
Baldwin 22%
McCain 6%
This is how you would send a message LOUD and CLEAR to the so-called “Powers that be”. At this point in time if/when the American people ever were to wake up, the republicRats and the demoncrats would soon come to the realization that the jig is up, and their days are numbered!
October 31st, 2008 at 8:03 pm
He would have been a great President if only
the sheeple could have seen more of him.
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S34W-rg8jHY
October 31st, 2008 at 8:11 pm
C’mon now…
Ron Paul should be the next President, but the primaries were rigged.
Here in S. FL 50,000 votes were “misplaced” in our county alone.
How many of those do you think were Paul votes, with Ron Paul signs
in hundreds of yards and on light poles, Ron Paul bumper stickers on
thousands of cars and Ron Paul billboards along the highways?
Expect the rotten cockroaches to crook this election too. They may
steal it for McCain just to set off rioting to give excuse for Martial Law.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I don’t think I’ve heard anything from Ron Paul that I’ve disagreed with. If we had people like him to run the country, we might have a chance.
October 31st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
all of you are right except your not thinking about what you have forgot. what Ron Paul and Jessie Ventura and everyone else are trying to tell you is that everything is rigged.the laws,voter machines, banks,credit cards,mortgages,even your own thought process is controlled by these sons of satan!
October 31st, 2008 at 10:34 pm
“A little rebellion now and then is a good thing . . . .It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government… God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty . . . . and what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned, from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. [14]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays_Rebellion
November 1st, 2008 at 1:55 am
The day after the election, congress should move to arrest both Bush and Cheney.
The John Warner Defense Authorization Act
NSPD 51
NORTHCOM
The 1st of the 3rd
“bailout bill” under threat of martial law
Contact Congress
Tell them to defend the republic on Nov. 5th.
Refer them to Rep. Kucinich’s 35 articles of impeachment.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:03 am
As I deliberate over the many opinions I read, whose positions appear to assume such hostility at the matter at hand, I wonder of their productivity. In times passed, when assuming a similar position and engaging in dialogue with my fellow-patriots of the Spirit of ‘76, at the conclusion of our meetings, and after strategizing our plan of action, united, we acted. What became of our actions? Revolution. From that sprang forth liberty – the same liberty you once lived and breathed, the same liberty in which you the people have forfeited with your inaction. All this banter of an impending revolution led by a small number of minority voters, is implausible. The only revolution that is being planned is within the imagination of those of a majority being silenced by a fear of nothing more than a spectre.
Is the majority truly of the belief that such a small class of citizens could provoke such an undertaking? But consider this, that the more the silenced majority promotes the idea, the larger the possibility becomes. Reflect just for a moment if you the people, would become we the people, and put forth this energy into a plan for yourselves, and then actually act upon it. Instead, as is typical of your method, you have relinquished your desire and passed it off onto another in hopes another minority group will carry your torch. Liberty is not bought and sold in this manner, nor will it be traded simply for blind faith, as you now witness. If you have the will, if you possess the means, and if you cherish your independence that I and my founding brothers gave lives and fortunes for, you will defend it.
Respectfully,
James Madison
Founding Father
November 1st, 2008 at 3:05 am
CASUAL OBSERVER-
My dear and close friend in the pursuit of liberty, Mr. Jefferson.
I concur, sir.
November 1st, 2008 at 4:52 am
Damn it james madison!!! That is, HANDS DOWN, the wisest, most appropriate post for this website, for these times, that I have ever read.
We argue among one another about who has more info, who’s perpetrating these things (the jews vs whoever), who’s motives are in the right place yet we ALL know 911 was perpetrated by the US government. There is proof aplenty. This is all the US people need to know. The rest should be up to the people.
The US government came up with the catch phrase “let’s roll”? I couldn’t agree more.
November 1st, 2008 at 4:53 am
I was talking about post #10 by the way.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:22 am
This is ONE time I disagree with Dr. Paul. The laws are not written against third parties. My goodness there are like 5 or 6 choices and parties on each state ballot.
The Constitution is written against third parties.
A democracy requires that the people be allowed to vote. We have a democracy. However, we also have, as spelled out by our wonderful founding fathers, a winner-take-all system. Meaning, if you win the election by one vote, you win. That’s it. The loser goes home.
In a Parliamentary style democracy the people vote for a party and then the party selects its representatives. Accordingly, a small party that gets 10% of the vote can have ten percent of the representatives. (Am I right about that, Brits?) So, your minority reps most certainly will have to, or at least can, coalition with other parties to be heard…but at least you get a voice no matter what.
Here, if you get 10%, you get nothing. In fact, you get laughed at. No representation, whatsoever.
Sorry, but the framers wanted like that. What does that insure? It insures that only moderates get elected, because everybody has to vie for the middle (you know, the sheeple). It also insures a two-party system. For example if you have two “conservatives” splitting the vote between one “liberal”, guess who wins. This over time forces the two conservative parties to compromise and join forces..,the operative word being “compromise.”
This, by it’s very nature, causes a two-party system and ultimately suppresses radical speech in politics. Obviously, that’s what the framer’s wanted. They knew exactly what they we’re doing.
But here’s the questions: Who are the two parties? Sure we now have two parties that are the same, but that doesnt mean it has to be that way. Look at the Republicans. They’re lost. They’re out dated and this election could see them go the way of the Whigs. Let’s hope. Then at least the way would be cleared for a new 2nd Party which would be comprised of, you got it, a coalition of old republicans, truthers, patriots, free-marketers, freedom lovers, fiscal conservatives, gun owners and the like. That would easily comprise 60% of the population and it could very well happen.
The issue again is: Can these groups compromise and get along in one party? Of course, but it takes tolerance, patience and understanding. Look at the weak-ass Republicans. Every four years they have a convention and they make a platform which states that we need to get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS…but they dont do ANYTHING to follow through on that promise (except those like Dr. Paul). That party was taken over by the elite..and now they’re in shambles.
I suggest all Republicans forsake their party–including Dr. Paul. Time for a new party. Not the remake of an old one: A new party.
I suggest: The American Party.
Footnote: 911 truth is the key to the utter destruction of the Republican Party (and maybe the Democrats as well). We’re that close. Cool it, please, with the negativity and keep up the fight. Revelation soon come.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:58 am
the jig is up that is why things are spinning out of control. this is the time to build anew. be positive move forward do not get sucked into the mess. start at home.
james madison in the house
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http://www.aniboom.com/video/301279/obama-plan/
November 1st, 2008 at 11:02 am
To Gary!
Well, I don’t know what “polls” you speak of but in Texas, THE ONLY CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT AND LIBERTARIAN.
That’s it! The other choice is a write in. No names to choose from, just a write in.
And it’s electronic voting, so when you hit that CAST VOTE button, your votes are as good as
never to be seen again by ANYONE.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:04 am
Sorry, I mean ‘I don’t know what ballots you speak of’ not polls. But on the voting ballots, there are three choices and a write in on the Texas ballot for president. That’s it!
NO Constitution party, NO Green party!
November 1st, 2008 at 11:52 am
Politcians are put into office to keep things the way they are,not to change things,the sooner that we all realize this ,the sooner we can take back the control of power away from the goverment.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I cant beleve the way people squarble about the voteing system, like it realy maters anyway,when the hell are you going to wake up and realize that its all just a big f@#$%king SCAMMMMMM !!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Oh what a terrible web they weave to launder their intentions.listen to the words of John Perkins on you Tube John Perkins Confessions of an economic hitman. and get educated.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Jesus f—ing Christ. Run!
November 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
TO “J” -
To you, sir, I commend your perception and your sense of unification. I should propose, as well, the importance of the people’s disunity, and its dire consequences should we fail to grasp the severity of
the threshold in which we stand at. I Recall at the signing of this nation’s Declaration of Independence, as the good Dr. Franklin rose from attaching his name to one of history’s most cherished documents, he announced to us all, “we must indeed all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. On that historic day, we all came to the realization that our unity was paramount, second only to fulfilling the goal that we had just adopted _ liberty and the sovereignty that attaches to it. You, sir, and your fellow Americans who find yourselves in tyranny’s path, have all but forfeited the blessings that was handed down to you. You now find your nation, once again, a need to pursue, to regain, those blessings and that sovereignty.
A plan and an accompanying strategy is mandatory, with the accomplished leaders ( and I don’t mean a chief executive) with the vision to reach the goal. We the people know who is behind your demise, and why. Let’s not waste further time on that dialogue. Unity and action is now mandatory are you to salvage the prize you were blessed with.
Thank you sir, for your kind compliment.
Respectfully,
James Madison
November 1st, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Robert W. Roddis For Michigan Supreme Court is a Ron Paul Supporter
http://www.breakthematrix.com/.....-Supporter
Robert W. Roddis
I am a lifelong resident of metropolitan Detroit. I have been an attorney since 1980 and a civil litigator for much of that time. I am a strong advocate of the Austrian School of Economics as exemplified by the Nobel Prize winner in economics Friedrich Hayek and by Congressman Ron Paul, who has been an inspiration to me. I believe that individuals have a constitutional and natural right to personal liberty and financial liberty.
November 2nd, 2008 at 12:30 am
There’s 350 million Americans……545 policy makers……Anybody see a problem. Restore the Republic.
November 2nd, 2008 at 2:53 am
I like Ron Paul except for his wacky pro-life anti Roe v. Wade stance. Ahhhh No thanks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPS7ksrKk8Y
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 am
http://www.letUSfree.org
Talk about it…
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 am
If it was truly democratic there would be no such thing as the electorial college and the popular vote would count. The one voice one vote prinipal would be the rule of the land. As it is now, its a lie to the sheep to make them feel warm and fuzzy for following the scheme of the nwo.
November 2nd, 2008 at 5:25 pm
at one time the only true democracy was held by the iroqoise indians. where do you think they got the idea from?
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Screw the debates, vote another party in
November 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 pm
SO we spent the last four years posturing and bitching about Bush and the NWO and more than half of you are going to vote for four more years of the same shit tomorrow.
I stayed away from this site for a while on purpose just to see how it looked through fresh eyes.
My takeaway: This serves NO useful purpose to in any way help with the problems that we as a people currently face. It looks more like a hate site than anything else..especially some of the comments.
Wonder how that happened???
November 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
This is one of the best sites on the internet today. Alex Jones is a True Patriot. You need to watch some videos about this site and actually read some shit about the NWO and the police state we’re going to. This isn’t a hate site, but America is headed in the wrong direction.
November 3rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm
The direction we are headed is definitly the wrong direction. I agree that Mr. Jones is a TRUE patriot.
Now can someone besides me, paint a senario that would benifit all, bring a rest to the whores who are getting rich off of spilled blood. How do we as a nation, with so many different points of view, beliefs, fact and fiction, realize what our next move is? I can paint the picture of the future of man kind, but Im not here today. What we need is to figure out, how we get the tiny minded little people to forget the color of skin, how much your car is worth, and the vanity fairs, and that jesus has left the building. The salvation you seek is your, the destruction explained in the history book called the bible tells you. But you continue SEEKING the signs. well here are the signs, diseases beyond your comprehension, millions dead from aids in 25 years, cancer 220 different brands, flavors, types what ever, heart attacks are the number one killer in men and women, the bible says that the hearts will stop. Tens of thousands are killed raped, starved, looted, beat, ridiculed, and there nothing that can be done, well, here are some more signs of the times, your greed and corruption has cause all to suffer, your banking system, you interest, which is condmned in YOUR BIBLE, has brought you all to your knee. Soon you will bow to the KING OF KINGS, and RULER OF RULERS, your imaginations, of right and wrong will be your egg on your face, truth will not spare the ignorant, selfish, or proud, they all like stubble will blow like dust in the air.
November 3rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
and then all the earth will look upon the WOMAN and they all will gasp, and stare in astonishment. They will say one to another is it, could it be, how could it be this woman? How could she deceive the WHOLE earth?
Paraphrase for the unlearned.
What does this mean AMERICA?
I dare anyone to say the truth.
November 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 pm
If you are aware, and really paying attention you will see the beasts head, she raises it on the news daily, 5 homeless people shot dead, famous people on the south side of chicago shot dead, child abducted murdered, two white males and one black male, they tell you its racial, and the boys say they were friends for years, and most belive the race propoganda, you all fall so perfectly on your face, having deniability, catch phrases, that help the ignorant not sound left out, and totally lacking in ability to proove anything to them selves a sfact or not. Mental attitudes of “du ya haf to dy frum sumptin” and safe sex. hu hu, not what should be told to your women, NO SEX. UNTILL YOUR MARRIED, or you WILL DIE. From you disesase. Not you could catch a std. NO NO, YOU HAVE THEM ALREADY WOMEN>>>>>>>> You are going to die for the freddoms that the enemy of the human race has pounded into your backwards minds, polotitians on her skirt, and because your preachers are blind. How is that for an observation?
November 3rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Dude, there’s a reason it’s called a _two-party system_!
November 3rd, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I think the worst part of it all is trying to talk to people about these facts and they can’t even wrap their brians around it, then I am crazy you know. Unfortunately it is going to take something real martial law like or something that messes up monday night football for people to see that they are under the attack of the bankers
November 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 pm
the fact of the matter is, is that RPaul flat out wimped out!! Face it, face it! He was afraid of offending John McCain and having McCain yell at him. He was afraid of having his dear colleagues in congress point the finger at Paul and say, ‘your responsible for McCainiac losing.’ it really is quite pathetic that Paul would not stand up to the neo-con bastards. but Paul did have the gall to walk with $5million of campaign contributions and act like the campaign for liberty was some earth-shaking strategic manuever to take over congress. puh-leeeeeeeeeeeeze! Paul wimped out and we are left dangling in the breeze. Paul has always never failed to blow opportunity when it has arisen in front of him. to run 3rd party in a paul/barr libertarian or independent ticket, after the repugnican primary, was a no-brainer. the media, in obama’s pocket, would have made paul/barr media darlings. with all the energy, fund-raising potential and the liberty message, paul/barr would have become the conservative ‘ticket’. the message of liberty could have gone out to the masses like never before in modern history and the movement would have grown immensely, and that would have been victory enough, in the short term. and now, now, you can hear the silence. the revolution, essentially scattered to the four winds. what might have been, Mr. Paul, what might have been. our founding fathers are not proud tonite.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:53 am
I’ll dare to say it…Mystery Babylon is going to revealed as America “herself”.
Americans and (most) Europeans are the most brainwashed/fooled/gullible people on the planet.
The time to fix things has long been over, and the world is indeed doomed. It is simply too late to do anything about anything anymore. People should instead get their affairs in order because antichrist will show himself soon. Just about everyone will be fooled into believing him to be Christ, and will worship the beast and its image. Yes, it is about to get very shitty here on earth.
But fret not you who are waiting patiently for the true Messiah. The false one must come first. Afterwards everything’s going to be ok. Rejoice in the fact that we shall all watch him and his kind be destroyed forever in front of ours very eyes.
November 4th, 2008 at 3:23 am
How did Ron Paul wuss out? He was on CNN and FOX saying how he will not be endorsing John Mccain because his views were out of touch. He is a representative if you remember…he has to protect his reputation of being a traditional republican or he’ll lose his seat in the house.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
I tried to write in Ron Paul in my computer election ballot, it would not confirm, or show that I had typed in his name. When I asked the Judges at the polling place what to do before I press the cast your vote red button, they said it just did not matter because Ron Paul was not going to win the election. They gave me a phone number to call after the election to see if my vote was actually cast. These Judges were refusing to allow me to cast a 3rd Party Vote and confirm that it was counted. I should be allowed to enter any name, and know that it was counted.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I just voted and I wrote in Ron Paul on my ballot. At least when the shit hits the fan in the upcoming weeks/months/years I can have a clean conscience knowing that I made the right choice. If there is a choice… that is.
November 4th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
i voted this morning and i feel like i made a big mistake. i went to vote for independent and the only name there was john mccain, no one else. i felt like i had no choice and i was being forced to vote for one of them. on top of this horrible experience, i had to show my id, but my name was clearly on the list because i saw my signature that they already have in the book…how can i report this?
November 4th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I too WROTE IN RON!!! It’s not a good feeling exactly having to write him in when he’s CLEARLY the most qualified candidate, but I agree, at least when the Red Puppet or the Blue Puppet hand us over to the International Banking Cartel and sell out our sovereignty for the Globalization Agenda I can have a clear conscience that I had eyes to see and the strength of will to do the right thing when we still had a chance to do it without bloodshed and chaos! And something to think about is that you don’t need to win an election to win a REVOLUTION!!! You need people willing to stand up and do the right thing, and Ron Paul may not win but he’s managed to get a lot of complacent and apathetic people MOVING and PASSIONATE!!! That is worth something and if we KEEP moving and stay passionate we CAN REACH CRITICAL MASS!! And once we reach critical mass WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE!!! THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM, never EVER lose sight of that!
November 4th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
#9
Good luck arresting Bush! He’ll be high on the hog in Paraguay looking to consolodate the natural gas situation for these bastards!
For those who don’t know Bush has already made his escape plan. He’ll dodge the justice he deserves by taking the high road and abandoning the country he claims he loves and defended for the last 8 years. He is the new owner of 100,000 acres of land directly over a huge natural gas reserve. SICK!!
Funny how that works! Being such a great president in “his own eye’s” and yet unable to stomache staying in America with the coming nightmare around the corner.
Boy it’s all so obvious and Americans should take their queue from this move and do the same. Get out while the getting is good!
November 4th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
k….#34..mike is it? Why are you bible thumping? Bad things have been happening since the beginning of time and people claim “see..the bible said in the end times people will die, and famine will come, and people will starve, and commit crimes against humanity.” But when HASN”T this happened? People have been claiming the end of the world is comming since the dawn of time. People having sex before marriage is that last thing we should be worried about. Even when I was a christian I thought the no sex rule was silly. If god didn’t want us to have sex, why would we have urges? Inteligently Designed my ass. What kind of jerk would place a tree in the garden of edan and tell humans “don’t touch this”..( like lab rats)… why wouldn’t he just not put the tree there. wouldn’t that have been easier. Of course the tree is a metaphore for knowledge. God did not want us to have knowledge, (in other words, he loved us Soooooo much, but wanted us to stay stupid, but yet he made it very attractive to us, AND created the curiosity in us ….so the tree was asking for it. If he really didn’t want us to eat of it, he would have made it ugly. I am not god bashing…….well maybe I am. I just feel compelled to give my own opinion and voice my own questions when people get all churchy on this blog.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
on the note of what this blog is REALLY about, this system is bias. It is NOT a 2 party system, but that system is basicly forced on us. Independents do not get air time….seemingly becuase they are the smartest and for the most part are real americans and care about us. Ron Paul probably dropped out for a number of reasons. It costs a lot of money to run, wich it shouldn’t. You should not have to have money to run for office. How much money someone makes should not devine thier elegebility for running the country. He also probably just knew he’s not getting anywhere this year. He keeps trying becuase he, and other independents, are hopeing that americans will wake up one day, and stop depending Fox news, and CNN to give honest coverage. The main stream media does whatever thier sponsors tell them. They are controlled, and therefore cannot be trusted. I’m voting for Ralph Nader because he’s the next best choice to Ron Paul. They both have balls. If Ron stayed on the ticket I would have voted for him, but writing him in i’m throwing my vote away. Most likey the same thing for voting Nader, but he’s still on the ticket, so at least some percentage would be there……providing the elctors count my vote as they are saying. Our voting system cannot be trusted either. Falty machines, and electors that can use my vote and ultimatly give it to anyone they want makes for a bullshit of system we have here.
November 4th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
#42 I was also forced to show an ID it said it next to my name on the list, and so did my husband. I think we are now on the GOV target list of some type. BTW they can tell who you vote for by the order you come in, the pace of the people before you, and who finished when. SO they know I was trying to vote for Ron Paul. But, now at least I know I am on a watch list, they played their hand in asking for my id, and I could see they had me flagged.
November 4th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Google “report election irregularities” or some such.
The Paraguay story hasn’t been confirmed that I know of.
Visit my YouTube, http://www.youtube.com/presidentbyamendment
for change you won’t believe, just the change you need.
Bush is very arrestable, and that is what is needed to break the cycle of
grownups building this country up and rich infants looting it every decade or so,
and will go a long way to keeping President Obama alive long enough for me to
oust him by Amendment.
RH
November 4th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
lonestarguy is an idiot, lol
November 5th, 2008 at 1:53 am
I’ve been watching the stats. Did anyone see how the 3rd parties did? I didn’t see anything stats for them at all. Please post a good link to find this. It seems to me that the media will be bias to the two party system to the end. I voted for Baldwin and I wanted to see how he did, since he was endorsed by RP.
November 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
WEATHER RON PAUL OR NOT THE THIRD PARTIES WERE NEVER MENTIONED IN THE STATS! WTF?! IS THAT A PROBLEM OR NOT? YES IT IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING ITS BEST FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT IIS HOW ITS PLAYING OUT!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! I VOTED FOR BOB BAR BECAUSE HE IS A LIBERITARIAN AND IF THAT WASENT CHANGE ENOUGH THEN WE ARE TOTALY LOST IN OUR OWN LITTLE WORLDS AND NEED TO COME BACK TO REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Ron (again) is right on the money – another good reason to GET RID of the electoral college – it is no longer needed.
http://www.distressedusa.com
November 6th, 2008 at 2:13 am
save us obi ron….yea right
November 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Ron paul should have been the gop canditate he would have won and had real change we are all screwed now alex is not a racist i am a minority they picked obama so minoritys would wwelcome the new world order ..
November 6th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
stop the new world order……
November 7th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
It’s unfortunate that the Electoral College is still in existence and we, the people, do NOT have any real say in who we want to vote for. As Ron Paul has expressed, it is extremely difficult for anyone who is not a major party candidate to get on the ballot, let alone be invited to any of the debates.
The two-party system is a shambles and the Electoral College should be abandoned because it does not work. I didn’t like either of the two candidates for the 2008 election because they are both in the pockets of the wealthy bankers and corporate elite. I was even invited to join the ‘Illuminati’ who described themselves as ‘The Secret Society’. I turned them down because I am not a stooge to be used. Unfortunately, there are too many unenlightened individuals in this country who take too much political b***sh** at face value and don’t question anything. We can’t afford to do that any longer.
November 8th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
All these third parties simply split the patriotic vote, the US people need to work togther under one banner if you are to stop the NWO.
Remember some of these third parties are there to dilute the vote of people against the NWO.
Those parties that are genuine need to come together to maximise your votecount.
Saving the country is more important than personal Ego’s.
stop splitting the vote base, UNITE.
November 8th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Isn’t Ron Paul a big supporter of the constitution? He should know the constitution isn’t very democratic, with the electoral college. A person can win the popular vote and still lose the election. Face it, the fix was in from the beginning.
November 8th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
We weren’t given a choice, two faces, same policies… we couldn’t event write any one in here in Austin, when did that get taken away and why has no one noticed? When I brought it up to people- they said I was brainwashed… oh the irony.
November 9th, 2008 at 4:34 am
@Ron Paul – No shit Sherlock.
November 9th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Well…here ya go. you wanted some to start this thing….well i am.
Come and join my face book page i have just started today. ( Revolution Started) I am gathering people and have started an event. My proposal to everyone is….I get 5000 people and we have a peaceful protest outside the big house in Washington. so come and join me..fight the fight.
This needs to happen before the new president takes office. So i have made the event for Jan 2 starting at 10:00am and ending 1:00 pm on the 3rd so everyone can get back to there families….
thanks for your time….please help….Im begging, no more talk.
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November 10th, 2008 at 4:33 am
Sour grapes.
I didn’t win. Whaaaaaaaaaaa, Whaaaaaaaaa.
Not fair.. whaaaaaa, whaaaaaa.
November 10th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Face book….Revolution started….
everyone talks about being a keyboard general. Well look whos doing something.
I want 5000 dedicated people and we go to Washington to protest. join and fight the fight.
You wanted someone to start it. Well here i am…..No Talk, All action.
Revolution Started (facebook group) also… Be heard, event ( Jan 2 10:00am – Jan 3 1:00pm)
There is not much time