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Perilous Pitfalls of Secret Government
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Bill’s Blog
May 24, 2008
An article by Christopher Ketcham, originally published in Radar Magazine, details information about a database of 8 million Americans targeted for detention in case of a declared national emergency. Dubbed “Main Core,” the database began in the 1980s when the Reagan administration began its “Continuity of Government” planning — which was unconstitutionally perfected to suit the needs of the Bush administration by illicitly removing the system of checks and balances of the legislative and judicial branches of the U.S. government — conveniently implemented after the attacks of 9/11 and remaining in effect today. Several examples of the damage caused by the illicit shadow government of the Bush administration can be found below.
‘MAIN CORE’ caused mutiny in the Bush administration when then Attorney General John Ashcroft and his deputy James Comey objected to the program on Constitutional grounds which led to a dramatic confrontation between Ashcroft and Comey on one side and Alberto Gonzales and Andrew Card on the other while Ashcroft laid ill in an intensive care unit.
A senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations says a database (Main Core) exists of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of an emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and detention.
The government uses software that makes predictive judgments of targets’ behavior and tracks their circle of associations with “social network analysis” and artificial intelligence modeling tools. Data used to make these ‘predictions’ include financial information from banks, credit card companies and credit agencies, illegal wiretapping and e-mail surveillance, and data gathered from ISPs and cell phone companies.
Information includes: e-mail addresses you send to and receive from, the subject lines of those messages, phone numbers you dial, numbers of those who call you as well as the duration of the calls, internet sites you visit, key words in your web searches, destination of airline tickets you buy, amounts and locations of your ATM withdrawals and goods and services you purhcase on credit cards. All this information is tracked and archived by the government supercomputers and fed into the Main Core database.
Readiness Exercise 1984 (REX-84)
Dissidents and activists of various stripes, political and tax protestors, lawyers and professors, publishers and journalists, gun owners, illegal aliens, foreign nationals and an incredible number of other average, harmless people comprise this list.
Main Core programs go back to the Reagan administration, more specifically to Oliver North, who was involved in the creation of REX-84, a martial law plan designed to suspend the Constitution, round up 400,000 illegal aliens and an unknown number of American citizens and place them in detention camps set up at military bases.
REX-84 tools included PROMIS, a database program used by North to track dissidents’ movements in the 80s. That program was never halted, instead it was illicitly thrust into overdrive after 9/11.
Congress has been complicit too, enacting several laws that have made the data gathering, targeting and detention easier. Sources familiar with the program say the government’s data gathering has been overzealous and probably conducted in violation of federal law and the protection from unreasonable search and seizure guaranteed by the Fourth amendment.
To fully grasp the concept of bureaucracy gone wild, and the outrage, you need to read the complete article from Radar Magazine. It’s long, but informative and well worth the read. The complete article can also be found at Information Clearing House, 911Truth.org and Think Progress. More information can also be found from Cryptogon.com.
Controlled Unclassified Information
The Washington Post reported on a memorandum signed by President Bush on the eve of his daughter Jenna’s wedding, that introduced “Controlled Unclassified Information” as a new category that will replace “Sensitive but Unclassified” — meaning that the information requires safeguarding because “the inadvertent or unauthorized disclosure would create risk of substantial harm.”
Such information — while not meriting “confidential,” “secret” or “top secret” classifications — is “pertinent” to U.S. “national interests” or to “important interests of entities outside the federal government,” the memo says. For example, the information could be the steps taken to protect power plants from terrorists, or which pipelines are most vulnerable to attack.
Laws or policies that generated the requirement for protecting such information and which interests are pertinent are left undefined. Bush’s memo does refer to the “global nature of the threats facing the United States” and to the need to ensure that the “entire network of defenders be able to share information more rapidly” while protecting “sensitive information, information privacy, and other legal rights of Americans.”
Bush claims the purpose of the new classification is to standardize practices and thereby improve the sharing of information, not to classify or declassify new or additional information, but some critics have described it as continuing an expansion of secrecy in government and a potential bureaucratic nightmare.
Mistreatment and Poisoning of Our Military
Involuntary extensions of tours of duty for soldiers forced to remain in the army involuntarily under the military’s ’stop-loss’ program have reportedly risen sharply since the Pentagon extended combat tours last year from 12 months to 15 months. Thousands of new stop-loss orders were issued to keep soldiers from leaving the service.
About 40,000 active-duty and National Guard soldiers were reportedly alerted that they’ll be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan in the fall. The deployment plans will involve units and soldiers who have served two or three tours lasting as long as 15 months. Several of the units have been home less than 12 months. 15 month tours are a major reason many senior enlisted soldiers are leaving the service.
On top of extended tours of duty and the inability to leave the service, troops are also having to deal with — and being denied treatment of — Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) while being used as pawns in the illegal occupation of Iraq.
The use of radioactive Depleted Uranium (DU) weapons in the current Iraq war has increased from 375 tons used in 1991 to 2200 tons. The Pentagon has bombed, occupied, tortured and contaminated Iraq. Half of the 697,000 U.S. Gulf War troops from the 1991 war have reported serious medical problems and a significant increase in birth defects among their newborn children. DU stays in the body, unlike natural Uranium. Prolonged exposure has been found to cause cancer and skin ailments. A video regarding poison DUst can be found on Google. With this kind of support from the Bush administration, our troops don’t need to fight any enemies.
Approximately $8 billion paid to U.S. and Iraqi contractors between 2001 and 2006 is reportedly unaccounted for — an audit revealed that nearly every transaction failed to comply with federal laws or regulations aimed at preventing fraud, in some cases lacking basic invoices explaining how the money was spent.
As noted by Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, there is something very wrong when our wounded troops have to fill out forms in triplicate for meal money while billions of dollars in cash are handed out in Iraq with no accountability. Taxpayers are being stuck with a massive bill to fund the illegal occupation of Iraq.
Bush’s Endless Hypocrisy on Terror
“Is a government guilty of terrorism if it harbors known terrorists? What should one say about a country that permits open fund-raising on behalf of a terrorist implicated in the mass killing of civilians?
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What about a government that secretly arms a guerrilla army that wantonly kills and abuses civilians while seeking to overthrow an elected government?
If your answer to those questions is to recite George W. Bush’s dictum that a government that harbors or helps terrorists should be punished just like the terrorists, then you must turn your wrath on the U.S. government and the Bush family — guilty on all the above points.
But the U.S. political/media system continues to view the world through a cracked lens that focuses outrage on “enemy” regimes while refracting away a comparable fury from similar actions by U.S. officials.”
A lot of people don’t know — corporate media doesn’t report — that the Bush family has a long history of ties to terrorists and the United States has a long history of creating and supporting terrorists and terrorism.
The FBI War Crimes File
As evidence of prisoner mistreatment at Guantanamo Bay began to mount in 2002, FBI agents at the base reportedly created a “war crimes file” to document accusations against American military personnel. In typical Bush administration fashion, the FBI was ordered to close the file down.
A report by the Justice Department provides a full account of internal dissent and confusion within the Bush administration over the use of ‘harsh interrogation tactics’ by the military and the CIA.
The Justice Department report also reveals that U.S. military interrogators appeared to have collaborated with visiting Chinese officials to disrupt the sleep of and to ‘soften up‘ Chinese Muslims held there.
Hundreds of FBI agents saw American interrogators repeatedly mistreat prisoners is ways that the agents considered violations of American law and the Geneva Conventions. Officials at senior levels of the FBI, the Justice Department, the Defense Department and the National Security Council were all made aware of the complaints, but little if anything was done about it. Congress and the American public were never told about it.
Illegal Spying and its Rewards
An experimental Pentagon anti-terrorism program designed to vacuum up electronic data on people in the U.S. was killed by Congress five years ago due to privacy concerns. The National Security Agency (NSA), which at one time was only involved in foreign surveillance, has reportedly been building what is essentially the same system.
The role the NSA plays in domestic intelligence gathering has yet to be revealed, but an inquiry shows that its efforts have evolved to reach further into data about people’s communications, travel and finances in the U.S. than the domestic surveillance programs revealed since 9/11.
Very little is known about the role the highly secretive NSA plays in analyzing that data and how it’s collected. The NSA claims to follow all applicable laws and fully notifies Congress about their activities. As I’ve said before, if the past history of the Bush administration is any indication, doing things legally and notifying Congress is highly unlikely. All the intelligence-gathering programs used to collect and analyze the various data streams sparked civil-liberty complaints when they were revealed.
The NSA reportedly destroyed the names of thousands of Americans and U.S. companies it collected following 9/11 because the agency knew it was illegal. Its own lawyers told the agency that the surveillance was illegal and that it could not share the data it collected with the CIA or any other intelligence agencies. A classic example of what happens when innocent victims get caught up in the illegal wiretapping conducted against Americans can be found from Salon News.
After being identified by whistleblowers for their role in illegally spying on Americans, AT&T and Verizon were rewarded a major contract by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). DHS needed a partner to help build, manage and secure their global network for 22 agencies.
Secret Cybersecurity Agency and Real ID
The DHS wants money to create yet another federal agency to maintain cybersecurity. Exactly what that agency will do is a secret — DHS won’t tell Congress any details about it.
The Real ID Act was passed by Congress after the usual use of fear-mongering by DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff. EVERY State has rejected it. The Real ID Act would turn state issued driver’s licenses into a national identity card. In the usual moronic way of the Bush administration, U.S. citizens would have to get these cards, but foreigners can use their foreign issued passports instead.
A report (PDF) from The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) details the dangers posed by The Real ID Act:
“Real ID Implementation Review: Few Benefits, Staggering Costs
Throughout its history, the United States has rejected the idea of a national identification system. Yet, the Department of Homeland Security continues to push forward a system of identification that has been widely opposed. The REAL ID Act mandates that State driver’s licenses and ID cards follow federal technical standards and verification procedures issued by Homeland Security. REAL ID also enables tracking, surveillance, and profiling of the American public.”
In reality, the Real ID Act is another ploy by the Bush administration to gain totalarian control over Americans, dreamed up by the corrupt leadership of the Bush administration.
Propaganda and Fear Tactics
While Congress continues debating illegal legislation that would grant retroactive immunity to telecoms who aided with Bush’s illegal spying, AT&T has reportedly “spent $5.2 million in the first quarter to lobby on domestic spying legislation and other issues.”
Secrecy by the Bush administration is a growing problem. Political fear tactics and the use of propaganda by the Bush administration continues destroying human rights and lives. Using a terrorist leader who reportedly died in 2001 has continued to prove advantageous for the Bush administration. Of course, the federal government has a history of using lies and deceptions.
Since the attacks of 9/11, which the Bush administration fought hard for over a year to keep from being investigated, President Bush has done everything in and out of his power to turn America into a dictatorship at the cost of millions of lives. Now it’s being reported that documents exist — documents signed by President Bush — authorizing the attacks of 9/11. Whether or not there is any truth to it remains to be seen.
More and more people are questioning 9/11. Families of the victims of 9/11 are coming forward with new information the corporate media won’t report on. Obviously, a major cover up of epic proportions would require the participation of a lot of people. There are still a lot of unanswered questions regarding that fateful day the changed the world and began the slow and steady destruction of America and those who live here. Every American should demand the truth and the answers to those unanswered questions. Enough damage has already been caused by illicit secret government. It’s time for accountability.
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May 25th, 2008 at 12:13 am
I checked the sources; you can’t litigate with info from these wacko conspiracy sites. There has to be verifiable evidence. Though not surprising, it is horrifying and deserves to be brought to light in a court of law.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Why is it that when people try and tell the truth there “wacko”. How has it gotten to the point where you cant even question the government! People should not be afraid of their government!! Governments should be affraid of their PEOPLE!!!
May 25th, 2008 at 12:33 am
http://www.alaskafreepress.com.....index.html
May 25th, 2008 at 12:57 am
Which whacko conspiracy site are you talking about The Wall Street Journal, the Electronic Freedom Foundation, or The New York times. Get thee behind me, Cointelpro mole.
May 25th, 2008 at 1:45 am
So the “miserable scum”
as they would be called by their predecessors in Neurumburg, just abo. pre 1945 these twisted silicone pseudo iltellect without a soul is it synthetic intelligence program that decides, tells the sicko fat proletariate, who tells (would be)exec?
They would take away the real everyday heroes the average guy and gal, whom fill in in a moments notice in any emergency, often and well. But because they practice their right to free speech and happen to share their frustrations over the beast, with a friend or two, during a “private” telephone conversation or online. Or associations of those with similar other associations, could they be listing any NRA members in that there phoney dumb software would be intelligence!?
This government is really gone for several loops if they think any computer or dreamed up, well it’s likely if they did have a computer giving step by step directions to the beaurocrat proletariate, likely been tampered with by the same foreign company that rigs the electronic ballot boxes! The same syndicate which also private company to guard America’s Borders!? That is just crazy! But what sickness needs cleansing what putrid wounds need dressing and purgings hot septic soakings! For a government to even dream of any program of general incarceration, when god almighty has said the stones of their houses shall come alive and kill them!?
People, my opinion is it will just begin to be impossible to keep up to everything, I mean look at us? We cannot afford to drive,travel keep warm, eat or succour! Costs are crazy! And evidence such as shared within these stories and related mentioned articles, proven, to us, here we are in penitetiary already. And such madness in government! How the hell did ya let em stick us here?we must all demand of our representatives! withdraw to peacekeeping protecting and observe a form of dialogue and requests for terms for peace. If we can agree on a mutual need given the present circumstances all the sufferings of innocent yet with coming disaster we must attempt to share the message and entertain peace and de tante.
After all, look what was done to every culture we so called westerners have come across. Not just us but every time a more advanced civilization comes upon another, much less educated or less advanced in certain theorum and theoric, we often soon thereafter see a disloged misaportioned society. No quarter was made or even thought of for the less fortunate in history class. But we have the future, perchance to have to reconceive if we are dilligent about these portents of doom.
What did Joseph tell Pharoh prepare for lean years.
I am convinced this information of planet x is what has things so wound up, the end coming very soon, for some of them. I think they can sense a possible loss coming. I believe what we are communicating here is very evidenciary of trends and facts especially-most important.
Now in closing I must say thank you Alex Jones and Infowars!
May 25th, 2008 at 2:04 am
There’s got to be at least 1% of those government employees, beaurocrats, proletarians with healthy shame, and a soul that is not yet completely twisted, that will help us with information. I know I could be wrong but is there one in a million that wants to come clean and join us? Send word to Infowars contacts. Let Alex Jones and the gang tell the world!
I will say of the enemies inside and shadow government sickness. I am writing about those ones who have been planning and laying in wait. Those ones who set their ‘pearl harbour’ in motion! The people will have to seriously indite and soon. You will be held accountable and prosecuted.
We must never let things get so far out of hand!
Thanks.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:28 am
yeah I agree NOW is a brief window to move. Call people, senators, govenors, call advertisers and tell them you are not going to support them anymore by buying their products because where your product was advertised the paper/magazine/news did a pro iran war piece. Ring cable and tell them if fox continues it’s pro war stance you are either going to cancel cable completely or insist that you don’t have to pay for that tripe station. Ring senators tell them you want the continuity of government plan made public, you want an inquiry into the FEMA camps, you want 911 investigated properly and Bush indicted. Bombard places with telephone calls. They have to be documented.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:43 am
jj Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 12:13 am
I checked the sources; you can’t litigate with info from these wacko conspiracy sites. There has to be verifiable evidence. Though not surprising, it is horrifying and deserves to be brought to light in a court of law.
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and which sources and where did you check them?
lol, and please, if it takes you hours and you copy/paste from fox news “or similar” you’ll be doing a diservice to “whatever” motive your claims are based (or paid for)
May 25th, 2008 at 3:33 am
If you really want to hurt the propaganda arm, you got to sell or trade your DVDs, CDs, books, and video games that are owned by the big media companies (stopbigmedia.com and riaaradar.com) and only buy from the smaller independent companies. Only go to locally-owned movie theaters and concert halls and see bands that are signed to small labels. Really hurt their wallet.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:27 am
Sounds like a wonderfully good program to me.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:33 am
(german accent) the wonderful world destruction machine is now in place (trying to keep the right arm down) .. ugh.. h.hhHEIL! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL!
May 25th, 2008 at 5:27 am
removing the system of checks and balances… was it ever really there without corporate interest of some kind?
May 25th, 2008 at 6:24 am
…Ah-bdi… “If you live by controlled demolition , you’ll die by controlled demolition”
May 25th, 2008 at 6:36 am
Yeah, before long, you’ll be hearing: “Turn key, turn key, gemme some more toilet paper !” We’re all suppose to believe that these detention camps are for illegal aliens right ? You don’t need detention camps for illegal aliens, you just pack-em up and send-em home.
May 25th, 2008 at 6:40 am
and finally, the entire plan is laid out, without fanfair and pompous attitude….yes folks, this is it, your America, be PROUD ! we can ice that sleazy aunt of yours that speaks out against our anti-terrorist plan, we can quell that grandma of yours that won’t shut the f--- up about her liberties, we can seize upon everything YOU own and enjoy as an illusionary puppet of our guild….but make no mistake….we will take it all slaves……f--- you and have a nice day : ) oh, and have a FANTASTIC MEMORIAL DAY (queezy sickness) as we give you another few hundred this month of little boys you all called “son” and “grandson” and “buddy” so us rich bastards could expand our oil interests just a nickle beyond what we already owned, thanks America, thanks a lot for your laziness and lack of common sense for allowing us to continue killing your children, you really are “our” kinda people, docile and sheeplike….from us to you……..thank you for being such complete mind c---s to the new world order, we appreciate your willingness to submit and we’ll kill those children of yours that don’t with a quick painless send off to the great beyond : )
heilBushPutinEU-freakynomics…..get to the dance floor, you want it !beotches!
May 25th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Democracy worked so well in Iraq, The Federal Government decided to do it here as well. We welcome our overlord masters.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:10 am
The ADEX list.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:13 am
I’m gonna get on my soapbox for a second. “I or my family will never fight or do anything for the likes of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Richard Perleman, Richard Gates, Rumsfeld, any big wig Dept. of Defense Pentagon turds and/or the money men behind the scenes who pull these little monkee’s strings. Actually, I will not do anything for any gubment offical. See what I mean here:http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/24/veterans.burials/index.html
Now, I hope they let us fly a kite on Saturday afternoons in the detention camps.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:47 am
This is quite a high quality piece of reference material for future use, packed with info in a condensed form — great for pulling out in a tough argument.
I especially like the “Permanent Link to …” all these articles. I’m starting a one-page list of some of these ammo packs by link. Sort of like Alex’s pistol safe!
May 25th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Given the existence as uttered forth in the public works of Puncher and Wattmann of a personal God quaquaquaqua with white beard quaquaquaqua outside time without extension who from the heights of divine apathia divine athambia divine aphasia loves us dearly with some exceptions for reasons unknown but time will tell and suffers like the divine Miranda with those who for reasons unknown but time will tell are plunged in torment plunged in fire whose fire flames if that continues and who can doubt it will fire the firmament that is to say blast hell to heaven so blue still and calm so calm with a calm which even though intermittent is better than nothing but not so fast and considering what is more that as a result of the labors left unfinished crowned by the Acacacacademy of Anthropopopometry of Essy-in-Possy of Testew and Cunard it is established beyond all doubt all other doubt than that which clings to the labors of men that as a result of the labors unfinished of Testew and Cunnard it is established as hereinafter but not so fast for reasons unknown that as a result of the public works of Puncher and Wattmann it is established beyond all doubt that in view of the labors of Fartov and Belcher left unfinished for reasons unknown of Testew and Cunard left unfinished it is established what many deny that man in Possy of Testew and Cunard that man in Essy that man in short that man in brief in spite of the strides of alimentation and defecation wastes and pines wastes and pines and concurrently simultaneously what is more for reasons unknown in spite of the strides of physical culture the practice of sports such as tennis football running cycling swimming flying floating riding gliding conating camogie skating tennis of all kinds dying flying sports of all sorts autumn summer winter winter tennis of all kinds hockey of all sorts penicillin and succedanea in a word I resume flying gliding golf over nine and eighteen holes tennis of all sorts in a word for reasons unknown in Feckham Peckham Fulham Clapham namely concurrently simultaneously what is more for reasons unknown but time will tell fades away I resume Fulham Clapham in a word the dead loss per head since the death of Bishop Berkeley being to the tune of one inch four ounce per head approximately by and large more or less to the nearest decimal good measure round figures stark naked in the stockinged feet in Connemara in a word for reasons unknown no matter what matter the facts are there and considering what is more much more grave that in the light of the labors lost of Steinweg and Peterman it appears what is more much more grave that in the light the light the light of the labors lost of Steinweg and Peterman that in the plains in the mountains by the seas by the rivers running water running fire the air is the same and then the earth namely the air and then the earth in the great cold the great dark the air and the earth abode of stones in the great cold alas alas in the year of their Lord six hundred and something the air the earth the sea the earth abode of stones in the great deeps the great cold on sea on land and in the air I resume for reasons unknown in spite of the tennis the facts are there but time will tell I resume alas alas on on in short in fine on on abode of stones who can doubt it I resume but not so fast I resume the skull fading fading fading and concurrently simultaneously what is more for reasons unknown in spite of the tennis on on the beard the flames the tears the stones so blue so calm alas alas on on the skull the skull the skull the skull in Connemara in spite of the tennis the labors abandoned left unfinished graver still abode of stones in a word I resume alas alas abandoned unfinished the skull the skull in Connemara in spite of the tennis the skull alas the stones Cunard
May 25th, 2008 at 9:17 am
I’m pretty sure I’m on the blue list, maybe even the red list by now. However, I won’t be going to any Rex 84 camps. The lord says to love your enemies, so I will kill them kindly should they decide to do something stupid like try to detain me without just cause. I will kill some of them, and then I will be killed. That’s better than spending one day at one of their camps.
Listen up all of you criminal & Satanic serving pieces of s--- in high places who think you can play God: Your days are numbered! There is an eternal place reserved for you in outer darkness!! I don’t fear you!!!!! I fear the one who has the power to bind my hands and feet and cast me into outer darkenss for eternity, where there will be wailing and nashing of teeth, a place of eternal torment where one’s thirst will go unquenched forever.
Your underground complexes / cities will become your tombs. Nice try telling Congress during the closed door session about “safe places” they can hide with their families while you assholes make your move for marshall law. Nice try for paying many in congress 200 million dollars each to sit silent and let you have your way with your insidious and Hitlerian laws. Nice try putting poisonous flouride in our water, toothpaste, food. Nice try conducting your bio terror on the population with your heinous chemtrail program, and lab manufactured super viruses & bacterium.
You will burn in hell thank God!!! You will die a thousand deaths. The 2nd death awaits you!! Prepare yourselves for the fate that awaits you, or turn from your wickedness and repent!!!!!!!!
May 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am
“The only reason some of us [preachers] are not exiled or thrown into prison is simply because we do not preach as fervently and as sternly as did Paul, John, Peter
and others. This modern “santa claus” religion that is sweeping country today is not the religion Jesus taught and John [the revelator] practiced.” ~Oliver B. Greene
May 25th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Amen, Preacher
May 25th, 2008 at 11:27 am
is there a list available to the public of who is on main core? freedom of information… …?
May 25th, 2008 at 11:29 am
you guys should check out the movie ’southland tales’ starring the rock and buffy and bunch of other people you will recognize.
it is about a second us terrorist attack, martial law, and secret govt. controlled by witches and warlocks.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am
T #25 naturallight
the movie may not be too far off considering the elite’s annual gathering at Bohemian Grove in Northern California. They are all servants of Satan…..spineless cowards with vacuums for souls…..guttersnipes to the core…anathema!
May 25th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Our founding fathers were on the list, they risk everything life, liberty and property. Are we not men enough to fight for the liberty, they died for. I would be proud to be on the list. If not me then who, if not now when. We are in a revolution now, the battle is to keep our Constitution. Has anyone heard Obama or Clinton mention the Constitution? Have you heard Clinton or Obama mention the national debt?
“The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad.” James Madison
May 25th, 2008 at 11:59 am
To #27 CE Jones
Glad you support the revolution. I’ve compiled a number of famous quotes. President James Madison made some of the greatest quotes no doubt:
Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths…I mean, it’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?
~Barbara Bush
If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.
~George W. Bush
The Constitution is a Goddamn piece of paper!
~George W. Bush
This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.
~Plato
That we are to stand by the president, right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
~Theodore Roosevelt
Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose—and you allow him to make war at pleasure.
~Abraham Lincoln
Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.
~George Washington
When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader.
~Plato
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive.
~Thomas Jefferson
Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.
~James Madison 4th U.S. President 1809 – 1817
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
~James Madison
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
~George Washington
Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
~Benjamin Franklin
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
~Voltaire
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
~James Madison
May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.
~James Madison
All men having power ought to be mistrusted.
~James Madison
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower
The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad.
~James Madison
All wars are fought for money.
~Socrates
It is the merit of a general to impart good news, and to conceal the truth.
~Sophocles
In war, truth is the first casualty.
~Aeschylus
All warfare is based on deception.
~Sun Tzu
The executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.
~James Madison
To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.
~Abraham Lincoln
May 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
IMO, we already have enough evidence to warrant a full investigation, that is if we could only get the powers that be to seriously look at it and consider anything less that a signed & verbal confession by W himself.
If Hilton has documents that actually prove what he’s saying, we need to get those documents into mainstream.
Unfortunately, think tank has placed all of this over the barrel and tug of war with all the typical old antics, much like the divide between the evolutionists and creationists, as our crooks aim to “outrun the clock” using everything from rigged elections to retroactive immunity.
As far as the general pulic is concerned, until mainstream announces a need for such an investigation and the reality of what’s at stake, it all remains drawn out over the barrel right where it’s been strategically placed.
We could have all the damning documents and facts we want, but until the “red alert,” we’ve been infiltrated alarm bell sounds, it all falls on deaf ears. Exactly how we get the alarm bell to sound off at the higher levels, remains to be the most difficult of tasks and so it’s drawn over the barrel as the clock marches on.
Unfortunately, situations like this usually have to die for a time, at which point they can be reconsidered when the truth is not such a big threat to the established regime. And it takes time and perseverence, as we saw with the Roman Catholic Church and issues like the earth orbiting the sun and not being flat like a book.
Way back when there were probably quite a few conspiracy tin foilers, that realized one can travel to the orient by heading west, rather than east. And even when it’s proved it still takes over a generation for the world to adjust and we still have a few that believe finding the missing link in the form of a jaw bone will prove what is already obvious to anyone with a brain.
Like we still can’t prove the earth is round without photos from space looking back and even then there will always be the ones that refute it, because of their political commitments and entitlements that demand it.
I think we will all know 9/11 was an inside job for about 50 years before mainstream actually announces it and we get a National Holiday with an appology from our then, pre-selected president and only then because they want to pass some new bill or make attonements that make them look like “the good people” that really care. Call it a real soft closure when the impact of the truth has little if any affect, other than them being able to say, “see, we do have moral compass as your leaders.”
And I am quite sure that if they use those camps, 40 years later we will read stories about those being held living in family communities where the fresh milk was delivered to their door step, where they were allowed to play soft ball games and have their community church, and that now that the threat of their type of thinking is no longer a national threat, they were let go and given good jobs and that many did not want to leave when the time came. Gee, it is so sweet to hear this fine news.
And I’m proud to be an American, where at least I know I’m free – - -
Come on people, lets hear that song again!
May 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
To put things into context: The targeted 8,000,000 Americans is a small number as Americans today are guilty without cause or reason just to justify bigger government and all their non-productive criminal payrolls and cost-plus expenses at our Americans loss and cost.
If you as an American have ever served our U.S. Armed Forces, or previous lawful U.S. Federal and State administrations, you are now suspect of being an insurgent against a Bush Nazi Terrorist Administration and against all collaborating State governments.
If you are identified intelligent and capable you and your American family are suspect of being dissenters and are now considered a terrorists.
These congresspersons today hire terrorists and criminals called government employees to criminalize Americans guilty or not to make us foot all their payrolls, salaries and humongous unpayable deficits, mistreated and brutalized to fund their terrorist acts and heinous crimes meant to be perpetrated upon Americans indefinitely in this United States.
What these Federal/ State congresspersons now call their job security is the destruction of everything worthwhile that made this United States a great republic, and woe unto you if you have the intellect to dissent against malicious criminality with intent, or you are now suspect of being an insurgent.
And As a matter of fact there are no insurgents after our established Federal and State governments are mis-represented to over-throw them endeavored to do away with law and civil order, there are instead ‘Freedom Fighters’ trying to protect our people, our way of life, and our country.
U.S. Federal and State governments were founded for the people, of the people, by our people, and we Americans can not allow ass-licking Globalists, or their congressional butt-suckers to destroy established law, or have Supreme monkeys in a Court carry out the filthy work of bigger pigs than they are, to yoke tyranny on our American necks and shackle our American children into the chains of slavery to deny them the happiness of an intelligent life, and the pursuit of the freedom to dissent against heinous imbeciles, morons and university idiots who just don’t have it up there, as all the know-how, the great ideas, the better way of thinking, the ingenuity, common sense and common law comes from our American people before these harebrained university poltroons read about it and start teaching it as decayed trash in their schools, as by then the Americans have already moved on. For these less than useless insane products of dysfunctional criminal asylums still called universities, and all the useless trash in their heads ass-licking Third Country Assholes no better than they are, to destroy Americans as ‘A Lucrative Business’ is to destroy us one and all! -Al Koppel.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I just recently read that it is illegal for mexicans to have hand guns down there, for crying out loud no wonder they lost control of thier gov’t. We need to advice the mexicans to fight for thier country first, then we can ask them for help with ours.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Man alive, you gotta give them credit for pulling this off. How in the world did they manage to turn law abiding citizens into a threat? Actually, I knew the moment 9/11 happened that it was for this very reason. Corruption and deception reign over the world’s population. Expect no mercy!
May 25th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Maybe they could think more clearly if they stopped understanding National Interests to mean “Federal Interests”.
May 25th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
#34:
Are those “Jews” mentioned Ashkenazi only?
Are they truly Yahudim?
May 25th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Do ya mean that because we chat and investigate our government for the fine tuning of our awareness, I could be deemed a suspect ? How absurd ? I guess I better go drink a double dose of this flouridated water we got here, so I’ll calm down ? Besides, what’s a potential threat ? Is that when you can kill people with your keyboard ?
May 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
As Thomas Jefferson said better to die a free man than to have died a slave.Spying on true patriots is their way to control? Its very lonely at the top and when the turds roll up hill they might get caught with it on thier faces.So the only means they have is detaine those who might be smarter than them or stronger than them such children they are.So then there comes a time to put away childish things and parent those who should do harm to us and others for they are not what we all hopefully stand for.They continuely try to complicate the processes of our system to confuse and baffle an or brain wash.It must be total hell to hold these things within.When they said the American people were complacent they were truly correct,complacent to the government and the otrosities they were or are creating plus devising against those that are truly honorable.So apparently since God gave Satan no ablility to actually kill a fleashly being he is very quickly perswading them as time progresses through decepition,deceite and paranoia and thier own will,which is weak as is thier minds..Its time obviate the obvious,since we are so obtuse.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Bring the bastards IN for war crimes! Make a f---ing citizens arrest if youre near them! When will these criminals be arrested??? What is going ON HERE? When will IMPEACHMENT be seriously discussed within the complicit Congress? The ONLY way congress is going to save themselves from the judgement of America and foreign victims of this regime is to bring these genocidal maniacs to justice! It is their only way out!
May 26th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Bush and hypocrisy? What is a more potent word for hypocrisy?
He gives the word new meaning.
Even my wonderful ‘dulled out’ entertainment loving friends are finally
beginning to wake up. Although he’s retired career military he actually
believes the base where he was stationed was closed to be developed
into a private golf club.
May 26th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
All of you need to read a book titled, Behold a pale horse, By William Cooper. He died after he wrote it and he has a lot of really important info in it. Once you read it you’ll see why he died. Nothing is going to change this corrupt government except for us, the people, by means of force. Get ready, me and mine are, and I know its coming soon.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Behold a Pale Pope. Same system of destabilization, same perps.
May 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!”-Wizard of Oz,1939
May 28th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
i was at work when the planes hit the wtc towers; all i said to myself at that moment was: Bush had something to do with this.