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Persistent Rumor: U.S. Helicopters Ferrying Taliban
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Ahmad Kawoosh
Institute for War & Peace Reporting
November 3, 2009
Persistent accounts of western forces in Afghanistan using their helicopters to ferry Taleban fighters, strongly denied by the military, is feeding mistrust of the forces that are supposed to be bringing order to the country.
One such tale came from a soldier from the 209th Shahin Corps of the Afghan National Army, fighting against the growing insurgency in Kunduz province in northern Afghanistan. Over several months, he had taken part in several pitched battles against the armed opposition.
“Just when the police and army managed to surround the Taleban in a village of Qala-e-Zaal district, we saw helicopters land with support teams,” he said. “They managed to rescue their friends from our encirclement, and even to inflict defeat on the Afghan National Army.”
This story, in one form or another, is being repeated throughout northern Afghanistan. Dozens of people claim to have seen Taleban fighters disembark from foreign helicopters in several provinces. The local talk is of the insurgency being consciously moved north, with international troops ferrying fighters in from the volatile south, to create mayhem in a new location.
Helicopters are almost exclusively the domain of foreign forces in Afghanistan – the international military controls the air space, and has a virtual monopoly on aircraft. So when Afghans see choppers, they think foreign military.
“Our fight against the Taleban is nonsense,” said the soldier from Shahin Corps. “Our foreigner ‘friends’ are friendlier to the opposition.”
For months or even years, rumours have been circulating in Afghanistan that the Taleban are being financed or even directly supported militarily by the foreign forces.
In part it stems from an inability to believe that major foreign armies cannot defeat a ragtag bunch of insurgents; in addition, Afghanistan has been a centre of foreign intrigue for so long that belief in plots comes naturally to many war-weary Afghans.
The international troops hotly deny that they are supporting the insurgents.
“This entire business with the helicopters is just a rumour,” said Brigadier General Juergen Setzer, recently appointed commander for the International Security Assistance Force, ISAF, in the north. “It has no basis in reality, according to our investigations.”
The general added that ISAF-North had overall control of the air space in the northern region.
But the persistent rumours that foreign helicopters have been sighted assisting the Taleban in northern Afghanistan were given an unexpected boost in mid-October by Afghan president Hamed Karzai, who told the media that his administration was investigating similar reports that “unknown” helicopters were ferrying the insurgents from Helmand province in the south to Baghlan, Kunduz, and Samangan provinces in the north.
Captain Tim Dark, of Britain’s Task Force Helmand, was vehement in his reaction.
“The thought that British soldiers could be aiding and abetting the enemy is just rubbish,” he said. “We have had 85 casualties so far this year.”
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“I am in contact with both national and foreign forces in Samangan,” he said. “I have not seen any suspicious helicopters bringing in the Taleban.”
The north has recently witnessed a spike in insurgent activity, particularly in Kunduz and Baghlan. Provinces that were relatively calm even six months ago are experiencing armed attacks, suicide bombings, even outright Taleban control over several districts.
In a district of Baghlan province, Baghlan-e-Markazi, residents witnessed a battle last month in which they insisted that two foreign helicopters had delivered the Taleban fighters who then attacked their district centre.
“I saw the helicopters with my own eyes,” said Sayed Rafiq from Baghlan-e-Markazi.
“They landed near the foothills and offloaded dozens of Taleban with turbans, and wrapped in patus (a blanket-type shawl).”
According to numerous media reports, the Taleban attacked the district centre, and the district police chief along with the head of counter-narcotics and a number of soldiers were killed.
Commander Amir Gul district governor of Baghlan-e-Markazi insisted that the Taleban fighters had been delivered by helicopter.
“I do not know to which country the helicopters belonged,” he told IWPR. “But these are the same helicopters that are taking the Taleban from Helmand to Kandahar and from there to the north, especially to Baghlan.”
According to Amir Gul, the district department of the National Security Directorate had identified the choppers, but it refused to comment.
Baghlan police chief Mohammad Kabir Andarabi said that his department had reported to the central government that foreign helicopters were transporting the Taleban into Baghlan.
The Baghlan provincial governor, Mohammad Akbar Barikzai, told a news conference on October 21 that his intelligence and security services had discovered that unidentified helicopters were landing at night in some parts of the province.
“We are investigating,” he said.
Rumours have reached the point where US ambassador Karl Eikenberry felt compelled to address them last week at a ceremony honouring the more than 5,500 Afghan police and soldiers who have died during the present war.
The reports were “outrageous and baseless”, said Eikenberry, as reported by McClatchy newspapers. “We would never aid the terrorists that attacked us on September 11, that are killing our soldiers, your soldiers, and innocent Afghan civilians every day.”
Afghan political analysts have woven elaborate theories as to why the foreign forces would be helping the Taleban.
According to Rahim Rahimi, a professor at Balkh University, America and the United Kingdom are trying to keep all of Afghanistan insecure, so that people feel the need for the foreign forces.
“They will try and destabilise the north any way they can,” Rahimi said. “It is a good excuse to expand their presence in the area, to get a grip on the gas and oil in central Asia.”
Fighting Islamic extremists was one way to insert themselves into the area without provoking a fierce reaction from Russia and the Central Asian governments, he added.
Numerous websites have devoted blogs, columns and “investigative reports” to the helicopter rumours; literally everyone has heard the whispers, and many, if not most, believe them. It provides an added reason to suspect and fear the foreign forces, as well as an explanation for the rapid spread of the insurgency throughout the country.
In the end, it may not really matter whether the rumours are ever substantiated. The firm belief that Afghans have in them can determine attitudes and behaviour, further fueling mistrust of the westerners in their midst.
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November 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
The dead giveaway that they are flying the Taliban around is the CIA logo on the side of the choppers.
Firsters, birthers, and twoofers Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Brad Sherman quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
This is a good article. It might not look important, but this tackling some important issues and reasons for US military presence in Afghanistan.
LaughingBarry Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 12:55 am
If you watch the documentary “Heavy Metal in Baghdad” (unrelated, I know), one of the guys from Iraq mentions that the US govenrment were shipping in fake militants to “fight” while really just sending missles and bullets flying into civilian homes and businesses, and shooting innocent people saying they were “insurgants”. He mentioned that all of the actual Iraqis sit in their homes, hoping that a missle doesn’t blow their family away next.
I wouldn’t be surprised if contractors such as Blackwater went on “missions” to attack the US military, so they could have the excuse to respond.
CTLovesNathanHale Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
A good first step for all Afghans would be to kick out the limey fuckers exploiting them. Brits are command and control, the u.s. is just dumb muscle in their fucked up global domination schemes. Afghans would do well to attack the head (Brits) and see immediate positive results. There aren’t that many Brits in country, and they could kick every last one of them out if they wanted to.
Jo Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
watch your mouth you racist idiot
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Why is he racist, if I may ask?
betweenthelines Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 1:11 am
limey fuckers is a predudice remark although not racist, it’s still just as bad. jo is right he should watch his mouth and you shouldn’t support comments like that StarinaNovak
TNathe Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:47 am
grow a sack you idiot…”waaaaah, he said a bad word, he made fun of me for my beleifs, waaah” fuckin’ man up or shut up!
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
You are getting warm, but neither sturdy yeomen nore england is behind the grip on US.
It is Black Nobility, for House of Vindsor is actually House of Black Guelphs.
Lost Patriot Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Hey the USA is searching for aluminum tubes. Give these guys a break!!! There may even be a smoking gun. We need to attack and kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. We have God and Jesus stoking our fires. The Lord will prevail!!!
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:25 am
And who do you want to kill??
Lost Patriot Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 11:35 am
When the smoking guns and aluminum tubes are found no justification is needed about who is killed. You just find the innocent women and children and began your halocaust. Then you tell the people you are killing for freedom and justice. They don’t need to have a reason about who you are killing. Tell them that God is on your side and you are killing for freedom and democracy. They’ll never know that you are a crazed psychopath.
Edward Tarr Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Your crazy.
Chaosrising Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
nah not the cia logo but the fact it says made in china in neo orange lettering on the belly of the chopper…lmao
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
1st
The Big Cheese Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
~puts cigar away~
Sorry son
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
everybody in afghanistan knows this. all of pakistan knows the us is playing terrorist there. the taliban has left talks with the us over 8 permanent bases in afghanistan in exchange for 6 provinces to the taliban. this war is over.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
http://911essentials.com says I’m sure they’re being charged for their carbon foot print whilst earning frequent flier miles that then cancel each other out.
What a great system! Thanks Mr. Gore.
maelstrom Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
afghanistan needs a 911 truth march through Kabul right to the US embassy. Just to remind the ambassador that everyone knows 911 was an inside job.
Ogbios Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Everybody! Everybody!! Everybody!!! Everybody knows everything now. Who knows everybody. The truthers still haven’t learned that explosives are pre planted in large skyscrappers in dense urban environments incase of a critical emergency where a building may fall knocking out other valuable assets. Yeah, real conspiracy their. But everybody knows that! Everybody!
Balgorg Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Is that a fact, cos if it is then how on earth did the planted explosive theory makers miss that one out? Have you got any evidence?
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
He is talking nonsence.
maelstrom Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
everybody in afghanistan sure as hell knows 911 was an inside job. as for preplanted demolition charges everywhere, bullshit.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
The reports were “outrageous and baseless”, said Eikenberry, kind of like the statements about 911 being an inside job
maelstrom Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Eikenberry said that too. He said we’d no more help the Taliban than we’d help the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11. Quote.
Crito Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
As outrageous and baseless as the theories that Israel has any influence in D.C.
http://stopaipac.org/
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
And we wonder why the world hates us/US.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Afganistan is the Tar Baby, (the more you touch-it, the more it gets stuck to-you.
Vote Ron Paul, bring our troops home UNSCATHED, (i’m tired of them showing-’up shot-to-shit).
Jimmy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I’m with you dude. I can’t believe my beloved “Nam brothers are not raising more hell than they are over all this. They got shot to hell and back while Kissinger disputed the seating arrangements of the conference table.
JFK. poor guy. Got shot for ratting out the NWO and planning the withdrawal of US forces and ENDING the FED. Then along comes fat ass Johnson to stoke it all up over a false flag (Gulf of Tonkin)
What did the US get: Americans with Disabilities Act because of all the one and no-leggers that came home. God we need to see some of these war criminals HANG.
One thing I’m seeing is my beloved PAtriot brothers and sisters are finally waking up and PISSED OFF. Vote out these SCUM and don’t trust thosse who are merely backing down. Cold foot globalists are traitors, just more cowardly ones.
I canceled Direct TV after decades of perfect payment record and wrote them multiple complaint letters about lack of Ron Paul coverage, lack of Patriot coverage, Globalist propaganda. I order my soap from Alex’s sponsor, moved my business account to a local family-owned bank. Canceled ALL but one credit card, including American Express and wrote them I did it in retaliation for their campaign contributions AND NOW I only buy from non-global, American companies. I will NEVER buy another GM product EVER. I am voting with my dollars from here on out. I buy no GE and avoid all the other death merchants. Fascist scum. I hope the people rise up and put your asses in JAIL.
the FBI should CONCENTRATE on Judicial corruption, political corruption, etc.. I will throw a rotten egg at anyone else who calls anyone else a terrorist. I’m sooooo sick of that word I could puke. I would personally rather have 10 shootouts a day with real terrorists than see the “PATRIOT” (what marketing) Act . repeal that piece of crap you constitutional killing scum!
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Me thinks the Rothschildian bankers are funding both sides…once again.
Arnold Ziffel Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Just like they’re funding main stream media AND alternative media?????
maelstrom Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
yep.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
There are some wierd connections to Bronfman. Guess who shares same corporate address, same lawyer, same friends etc.
maelstrom Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
you can tell a lot about a media operation by what they don’t say, and won’t let said.
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Who is funding and protecting Alex Jones?
STOP YELLING...sheeesh Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
PeeWee Herman
Truth !
StarinaNovak Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:26 am
You think so?
AdfHtlr Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Jews of couse!
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Calling all jarheads, now is the time to proove we are the dummies everybody would like to claim, desert.
Jimmy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
At this point, desertion would be Patriotic. I still admire Muhamed Ali. Balls of steel and right all along. Gave it all up. He could a had a cushy job boxing expositions for the ARMY but he SAW TRUTH. Fine Patriot and Gentleman.
There is NO glory and NO honor anymore in what we have been doing overseas. Just too much evidence it’s another globalist death and money mill. Those may be other people’s kids dying–but THEY ARE KIDS for God’s sake.Makes me nauseous.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Rothschild says… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhfjSM-pgsk
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
obummas giving them timne to reorganise before the surge
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Hahaaaa! Busted!
David
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
KAWOOSH GO BACK TO YOUR KAWOOSH BUT TELL US 1st THE TRUTH, & don´t you forgett your Y……E
Mr. Kawoosh, I bet you specially just popped out of one of them middle eastern prisons or special centers as your name clearily points to!
Anyway, why don´t you tell us the REAL reality of such “peppered” news.
Namely that these helo-lifted- fighters that you claim here to be Taliban ferried by US forces in Afghanistan are in reality Zionist Sefardi Israeli SOBs (Special Operation Branch soldiers of the Seyyeret Matkal [GHQ underlies the direct command of the Israeli PM]. These dudes are oriental sefardi zionists who as a matter of fact look middle eastern oriental, and are educated enough to talk in Pashtu, Dari, Persian, even Somali if you want. or even master the southern drawl of the US.
They were on a decption Op.
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
perhaps it’s blackwater. we know that they hired “insergents” to incite trouble
November 4th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Probably Delta CAG Operators.
They dress like terrorists often.
Hate to burst your bubble.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Americans-are-being-duped.Afghan/Iraq-is-planned-as-a-graveyard-for-America’s-soldiers.
That-way-we-have-little-home-defense(of-the-USA)in-the-coming-planned-invasion-of-the-U.S.
1.Economic-Collapse
2.Martial-law
3.Martial-law-fools-crushed-by-invading-armies.
4.Americans-unite-and-fight(and-die)like-dogs,win-after-losing-200-plus-million-people
to-war,plague,the-four-horsemen,etc.
5.You-better-pray,brother,cuz-thats-all-you-got
November 4th, 2009 at 10:28 am
And who is going to attack you?
Economic collapse is obvious, you already have martial law, but I don’t know what invading armies?
BlackWater, XE?
AdfHtlr Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Jews!
Jimmy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
recent Soviet Bloc NATO joiners, more than likely. who knows. come on over amigos. can you say “tactical nuke”?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I have heard that during the Vietnam war there was an unknown force providing air support to the Vietcong…I have heard that that it was the aliens…
AdfHtlr Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Alien Jews!
Jimmy Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Russian pilots flying MIGS. and, they had a dynamite shoot down ratio.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Last time they used planes and blamed pakistian for it. I wonder who thier going to blame this time “Iran” I also wonder if thier getting paid in good old USA gold.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Not Iran but Isreal!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
Al-Qaeda and Taliban are pawns of the U.S. high ranking psyochopats and world satan balls lickers elite that works for the destabilisation of countrys [PURPOSE: ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT AND A WORLD BANK TO ENSLAVE THE WHOLE WORLD POPULATION]. CIA goes as a “mainstream” terrorist
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1543798/US-funds-terror-groups-to-sow-chaos-in-Iran.html
presstv.ir/detail/98327.htm?sectionid=351020401
presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=109453§ionid=351020101
independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/revealed-british-plan-to-build-training-camp-for-taliban-fighters-in-afghanistan-777671.html
infowars.com/madsen-taliban-imported-to-conduct-false-flag-terrorism-in-iraq
prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/280507usesalqaeda.htm
prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-are-pawns-of-the-us-military-industrial-complex.html
infowars.com/western-governments-funding-taliban-al-qaeda-to-kill-us-troops-destabilize-countries
infowars.com/iran-captures-cia-terrorists
infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_us_uses_al_qaeda_to_attack_iran.htm
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html
corbettreport.com/articles/20090623_destabilization.htm
infowars.com/iranian-interior-minister-western-intelligence-behind-riots-and-unrest
infowars.com/former-pakistan-general-us-supports-jundullah-terrorists-in-iran
blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know
globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13325
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7942G_x-So
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html
abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3206417
youtube.com/watch?v=_wg3r2YSM9g
Events like 9/11, the London Bombings and the Madrid Bombing were ALL accompanied by Security/Military EXERCISES which paralleled the real events
historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=militaryExercises
historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_guardian
…
Nano Thermite found in WTC dust
stj911.org/press_releases/ActiveThermiticMaterial.html
ae911truth.org/info/51
russiatoday.com/Politics/2009-07-09/Did_nano-thermite_take_down_the_WTC.html
################ 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB ################
AbuBakerSmith Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
That’s part of the problem with you troofer idiot types.. It ISN’T the US. It’s the Bankers. The Beast as the Corporation of international Bankers that controls the Couuency liles to refer to it.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Farrakhan exposes Rothschilds and Warburgs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxO-z0XWaLc
November 5th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-CONGRESSIONAL COMPLEX
October 26, 2009
Larry Wilkerson: The beginning of the American “IMPERIAL ROME” and Eisenhower’s warning
Larry Wilkerson: “From US debt to the geopolitics of oil, the US empire will come to an end”
Bio:
Lawrence Wilkerson is a retired United States Army soldier and former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell. Wilkerson is an adjunct professor at the College of William & Mary where he teaches courses on US national security. He also instructs a senior seminar in the Honors Department at the George Washington University entitled “National Security Decision Making.”
This talk by Larry Wilkerson was the keynote speech given at an event sponsored by the… [read on link]
PART1 video
http://therealnews.com/t/index.....mival=4373
PART2 video
therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=4376
Transcript of the video is below the comments
November 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
These are the exact same Black Helicopters that used to fly over Alex’s house and his daddies (oil) ranch back in the day.