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  • Pittsburgh May Outsource Tax Collection to Private Firm

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    Rich Lord
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    October 14, 2009

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    Pittsburgh City Council today took a first vote toward outsourcing the job of collecting delinquent property taxes, after getting assurances that homeowners with tax problems will be able to enter into payment plans.

    Councilman Patrick Dowd, who was initially skeptical of contracting with Jordan Tax Service and law firm Goehring, Rutter & Boehm, led the charge that led to unanimous passage.

    “We are essentially handing a baseball bat to the tax collector and saying, ‘Be more aggressive,’” he said. But he added that Mayor Luke Ravenstahl has agreed to invite all delinquent taxpayers to make good before the outsourcing takes effect on Jan. 1, and to preserve and enhance a system by which community groups can target debtors’ properties for purchase and redevelopment.

    The Pittsburgh Community Reinvestment Group, an umbrella organization of neighborhood groups, endorsed the arrangement and spoke for it at council’s meeting. Unlike a 1990s sale of city tax liens, this deal would not give the collection firms the power to nix redevelopment efforts, said PCRG official Aggie Brose.

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    54 Responses to “Pittsburgh May Outsource Tax Collection to Private Firm”

    1. 1st Says:

      Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee……………………………….

      I eat nummy numms for breakfast

      1st Reply:

      Hey….is this thing On ? ~scratches head~

      oh right….

      1ST !

      Kayhla Reply:

      Shut up and pay your taxes. In fact, never mind the taxes, just shut up.

      Sunny boy Reply:

      May I implant a thought that is relevant to the cause ?

      IDIOT !!!

      you may, continue.

      Ben Reply:

      Nice vids.

      Owned Reply:

      Picking the lesser of 2 evils, is not a choice at all….its all a compromise of values.

    2. arwijn Says:

      Wow Pitssburgh is really trying their best to be popular with the people aren’t they?
      O wait, i mean with the ones who will profit from the enslavement of the people…

    3. simple answer Says:

      “I’m not saying I’m gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world.”

      -Tupac Shakur

      (I say each person takes the time and pick up there cell phone or what ever and starts calling people 1 by 1 to try to awake them to the truths, i personally do it myself daily, people needing help escaping the credit problems so they can afford to live the come to me for help, i teach every single day by appointments, it nice to know i have job that give me freedom to open minds and help people with REAL issue like credit, which no American has ever learned in high school or college, we do have some rights left, it about making the work for you instead of against you, it just system)If you need help with anything credit finance related dont be afraid to check out our website or blog videos on credit education.

      http://www.creditambassador.com/blog/free-stuff/

    4. August Says:

      As long as it means billions & billions into their pockets, your son’s & daughter’s lives are well worth the risk; heck…they don’t even care or think about the death and destruction; all they see is the piles & piles of GREEN! The piles of bodies are for you people to worry about!

    5. bob Says:

      Fuck property taxes and fuck Pittsburgh City Council. I’m moving to Belize and will take my chances there instead. Good luck to all who remain.

      SPIRITBLADE Reply:

      Get-out before the end of the month.

      H1tch Reply:

      link… http://www.stevequayle.com/New.....alert.html

      Ben Reply:

      I never thought Americans would have to flee their own country like if it was Cuba or the old Warsaw Pact countries.

      SPIRITBLADE Reply:

      Yes, well….

    6. Mike Jones Says:

      Pay your taxes, get the flu shots and just be a good citizen

      It's Time Reply:

      citizen or comrade?

    7. SPIRITBLADE Says:

      Oooooh-

      Sounds like a PERFECT JOB for that Hilton goof-ball, and the ‘AMERICAN POLICE FORCE’.

      [ARM-UP, SPREAD - OUT]

    8. de obvious Says:

      “…to preserve and enhance a system by which community groups can target debtors’ properties for purchase and redevelopment.”

      I DO NOT like the sound of that. Piss someone off at random and your house goes bye-bye…

      Andrew Jackson Reply:

      de obvious – you are right. this is pretty scary.

      Thorne in Their Side Reply:

      I do think it was the point that was made by them though! If you don’t pay your taxes then we will give your house to ACORN or an affiliate and let them do what they will with it!!

      All I have to say is, People need to start atanding up for their rights on the local levels just as vigorously as they do on the Federal Level!! IF you lose them in either, you have lost the battle!!

      mike65 Reply:

      I can hear the bulldozers now.

    9. Ben Says:

      “Pittsburgh may outsource tax collection to private firm”

      That would be nothing new. Taxes go to private banks already.

      Thorne in Their Side Reply:

      But Ben, check out the rest of that implication……………………….
      Pay close attention towards the end of the paragraph, it explains alot between the lines!! Imagine ACORN!

      “We are essentially handing a baseball bat to the tax collector and saying, ‘Be more aggressive,’” he said. But he added that Mayor Luke Ravenstahl has agreed to invite all delinquent taxpayers to make good before the outsourcing takes effect on Jan. 1, and to preserve and enhance a system by which community groups can target debtors’ properties for purchase and redevelopment.

    10. J Fitzgerald Says:

      the mob will run it.

    11. Andrew Jackson Says:

      this is really bad news. i can see where this is heading. here’s the scenerio:

      the federal reserve and state agencies will hire chinese private companies to hunt down tax evaders. why the chinese? the chinese have vital interest in the americans whom don’t pay their taxes. the treasonous US government has borrowed a lot of money from china(because they can’t balance a checkbook). if the americans stop paying their taxes, the chinese will get stung.

      …and the chinese won’t like that at all

      woo hoo Reply:

      Nothing new here its always been a private firm. Ferderal Reserve is a private banking firm. Tax agency has always been a private firm. Every government in the world is a private firm run for profit. Even the police, hospitals, doctors, dentist, garbage disposal, you name it private firm run for profit!

      roaddog6 Reply:

      and everything else is outsourced, why not this too.

      Andrew Jackson Reply:

      nothing new here? i disagree. here’s what IS NEW:

      1) the USA has the largest deficit in the history of mankind.

      2) technology. if the white collar criminals get ahold of certain technology we are slaves forever.

      100 years ago we could run and hide. today, no place to hide

      Andrew Jackson Reply:

      “every government in the world is private and run for profit” – woohoo

      i disagree with that also. my local township government is not run by a private agency. nor are they run for profit. we elect good people and they take care of business. our state is run for profit. however, they are not private. anybody CAN run for office in our state. john doe CAN’T run for office in a private company.

    12. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      Blackwater/Xe
      How about some nice mercenaries?

      Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate
      Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Grayson
      Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader
      Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura

    13. joe sixpack Says:

      why not the pres of the usa is outsourced from Kenya

    14. supersonic Says:

      C’mon.. i’ll pay you with a whole wheelbarrow of your soon to be usless money. This is my first post… so i guess i’m in the database now. Hello all.

      Ben Reply:

      Welcome into the database.

      Welcome, To The Machine Reply:

      ~Sirens Sounding~

      “We Have A Runner …”

    15. WEREFEAT Says:

      One of the things that has gotten the Jews kicked out of countries since whenever has been their collection of taxes on a commission basis. This causes the people to complain to the King, and they get the boot. Of course, we only have the Central Committee to complain to…

    16. Internal Patriot Says:

      Tax collection has always been handled by a private entity. It’s called the IRS. I suppose someone must think we’re idiots or something.

    17. JT Says:

      5th amendment

      private property may not be taken for public use without just compensation. Binding on the States. Property rights are an individual right, not a government right.

    18. Highlanderess Says:

      They’ll probaly outsource it overseas to Cost Rica or the Phillipines.

    19. GMAN Says:

      This is very bad. They do it in allentown and the law firm/scam artist lost a suit due to collection activities to the tune of 5mm. This would let them steel homes from people and charge absurd fees. Look up lehigh valley tax collection suit for more info. criminals

    20. patricia Says:

      this is bullcrap…I am just about fed up with this kind of stuff …we, all the people should just stop paying anything and everything…dont pay mortgagees..dont pay credit cards…don pay taxes where you can…just stop…..take all mney out of all banks…rush the goddamn banks…drive them to collaspe….
      bummer there is just no way all the sheeple of this country would do it….

      Thorne in Their Side Reply:

      Yep, Forcibly collapse the dollar, and then the NWO can replace it with the AMERO or some crap…… NO THANKS!!!

      You cannot be reactionary to what is being done to the US! It doesn’t work, that is what the Elite want!! Remember this equation, and try to work outside of it: Problem, reaction, Solution!
      (I believe that is the way it is termed)
      But IF every American reacted to them the way they EXPECT us to, then we will fall!! It is plain to see for alot of us, that is one reason people are sitting and waiting. You have to wait until they get tired of NOT being able to push your buttons, There WILL ALWAYS BE AN X FACTOR, something that the Elite didn’t forsee, and didn’t expect! They “THINK” they have it in the bag and all figured out!! But the x factor will be what screws up their agenda!! Just a little more patience, things are always the darkest just before the dawn!!!

    21. Sparks Says:

      This has been going on for years in Montgomery, Delaware and Chester Counties, PA. The townships are too understaffed to handle the work.
      Now the BRT here in Phila. has been gutted and villified for their corrupt ways. Seems the same politicians are involved doing back-door deals.

    22. Paul F. Says:

      pay up slaves. dont question, just suffer, starve and be a broke dick . or do like i did and get into the green enegery business. keep you friends close and your enemeys closer :) . free shots from the corp. office. lots of wavers, lots of airport shot centers coming down on the global emails.
      food, H20 and protection is the way to go. fuck ‘em all. daddy’s ready. stay awake folks.

    23. Monica Says:

      Ravenstahl is barely out of puberty and doesn’t know thing 1 about political reality.
      He’s just a complete butt-wipe. Nobody else wanted his job which amounts to Mayor McCheese
      and nobody pays him any mind. So now he thinks he’ll get somewhere as FEMA boot-licker.

    24. kanye west Says:

      oh ma bad, exuse me. can I say somethin? I know the fat cats think I’m crazy for sayin this but. who’s in control here? if its them NWO hoggs? you can’t tell me nuthin.

    25. Endslave Says:

      Pay up is just what we were thinkin you ancient whisky chuggin fools. where’s our jobs and money. rolmfao.

    26. alex Says:

      The SLAVEMAKERS are doing a practice run on probably more agressive tax collecting procedures.——————–____________________———————————— The IRS alredy has S.W.A.T.———————–___________ Well, I guess that’s just part of being slaves. _________________________________If you don’t give these theives your money they just steal your belongings from you and put you in prison.—————————————————— If you resist they kick your ass first.

    27. ob Says:

      As the time goes on , people of america have everyday less and less freedom due to politics conducted by federal power. Also , as a consequence of the economic crisis , more and more of them have lost their job and home. But the crisis is not finished , and in near future the consequences could be catastrophic. Keep in mind that any change can not come from the federal government , but only the people , the only source of any future chagement. If a majority of them think a change is possible , so it can be. A way to preserve freedom , ideals , welfare of people is federalism must come to an end. People will have to make a choise , federalism versus freedom , ideals , welfare… . The first could lead to the establishment of a martial law. A state as texas is ready to cross the line , it could be an example for the others. People could put under pressure every state government in the aim to declare secession , the american constitution allow such a decision. Such an aim can’t be aimed without any precaution , as it is evident the federal power is not ready to yield or abdicate. Probably , this one will use force to submit people , but constitution give garantees on firearms. people can put up a fight against the oppressive federal power if a political issue according to the will of people can not be lead. People have to make his will respect , otherwise it will be an opressed people. Saying that federalism must come to an end mean it must be break down , it appears to be the only way to preserve people. America can be easily imagined without federalism and preserved.
      a j

    28. did ya see that Says:

      /i like how one of the principals in the tax firm was named Goering.HMMMMM Also a private tax collection agency is fascist period.you might as well call it mercenary tax collection services.

    29. Gary Says:

      What’s the difference? Your income tax already goes into private hands.

    30. Hologram5 Says:

      This has to be either unconstitutional or illegal in some way or another.

    31. AbuBakerSmth Says:

      This is what Gun Control is all about

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