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Police SWAT Team Holds Entire Family at Gunpoint for Hours
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Patrick Burwell
Digital Journal
December 5, 2008
Brannon Howse interviewed John Loeffler about his article on ChristianWorldviewNetwork.com on why SWAT police, armed for riot control weapons, packing automatic rifles and armored for a terrorist response stormed a family food cooperative in Ohio.
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Agents from the State of Ohio Department of Agriculture with the S.W.A.T. team did not give any explanation to the family other than a warrant, did not provide them a phone call, did not charge the family with anything as they burst into their private home. But what they did do was make a big mess, taking over ten thousand dollars of merchandise with them, reported the IVN Bureau Chief.
Have we entered a new era of police brutality at the hands of our own government?
John said, “They kept guns trained on the parents, the kids, toddlers, from about 11 in the morning until eight in the afternoon.” Is this what we expect now from our government?
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December 5th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
This must stop. But how are we going to stop it?
Any ideas???
December 5th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Folks expect to see a LOT more of this…
December 5th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
The only way to stop them is to stop their paychecks! PERIOD!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
this is complete bullshit, and i doubt it will be on t.v. can’t let the sheep see.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Let em’ try that here. Pigs
December 5th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
The new police gear and tactics are the same as the army.
Full force regardless of location. Doing as much damage as possible is necessary for their shock and awe attacks.
They go into homes tearing out doors, windows, grenades, automatic rifles , to serve a warrant.
It is meant to make you think there is a war in your house. Cost you so much that you think twice about committing a crime.
Then they say, innocent until proven guilty.
Same mind set as the cops who shot the mayors dogs and refused to apologize.
The battle begins at the top. The police are soldiers. The tactic approval and implementation of these policies come from the NWO elite and supporters.
We need the police and soldiers on our side, so do not fight back.
The more people see this, the more they will dislike it, and the mind set will change.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I suggest this. As a people, we need to let the actual officers that we are opposed to these actions. I propose we do this in two situations. In normal, social interactions with police officers you may bump into, simply mention that you are hearing more and more of this type of thing and isn’t it terrible. Don’t be rude or aggressive, simply be persuasive. Second, in your neighborhood or on the streets or at work, if you see a warrant service, an arrest, any police action at all, don’t duck out if you aren’t directly involved. Don’t physically interfere, but get close enough or go just far enough to be sure you’re not interfering legally, then watch, take video or photos if you can and make notes of what you see. Get license numbers of the cop cars, number of units, locations and times. Most police stations have citizen congratulations and complaints on their websites these days. Give the details you have and say it was well done when it was. But, if you observed and can prove bad practices, say that too. In short, show them the carrot and the stick. Don’t break laws, but don’t let them either. If you live in fear of them now, you live in fear tomorrow and it will get worse.
December 5th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Swat teamed for a misdemeanor, women and children held at gunpoint nonetheless. Pathetic. These cowards even so much as knock on my door, we’re going to have ourselves a good old fashion American gunfight. Fuck this shit!
December 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
answer to #1 post
start a resitance movement, notify local politicians to fix problem, if they dont respond demand no confidence hearing or tribunal at local city hall.then arrest the perpatraitors and punish according to law and or violation of constitutional oath(treason).this act is called a citizens arrest.
if your local athority wont do it then you have to. im sure the local athority wont help you, so you will have to arrest them as well (conspiracy to commit treason thru aiding and abedding). then re-elect local officals that will fight the injustice in govt.
mind u this willnot be as easy as it is written (easier said then done). remeber you the mob(people) have the power. take the power back.
P.S. LONG LIVE THE RESISTANCE!!!! and good luck
December 5th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
DONT SWEAT IT……JHVH IS SO LIT HE HAS STEAM COMING OUT OF HIS EARS AND HE’S SENDING HIS SON(JESUS) TO DESTROY ALL OF THEM. LUKE21:28 “WHEN YOU SEE THESE THINGS HAPPENING LIFT YOUR HEADS UP……YOUR DELIVERANCE IS GETTING NEAR!” 1THESALONIAN5:3 “WHEN EVER IT IS THAT THEY ARE SAYING….. ‘PEACE AND SECURITY’ …….THEN SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IS TO BE INSTANTLY UPON THEM, JUST AS THE PANGS OF DESTRESS UPON A PREGNANT WOMAN,AND THEY WILL BY NO MEANS ESCAPE!” PRAYPRAYPRAYPRAYPRAY!!!!!!GOD SPEED …….
December 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
COME GET SOME FUCK FACES
December 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
merchandise?
December 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
AH my home state at it again. This place really has went from shitty to something out of Idiocracy.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
- – - and this warrant ‘particularly described’ – - – what? Food? It would be just a darned shame if folks strarted booby trapping stuff – - – if these pigs want to act like swine, let ‘em pay the price, preferrably by answering in court and paying with their personal savings, houses, cars, jewelry and retirements. Failing that – - -
December 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
“Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a
retail establishment without a license.”
I’m suprised they weren’t shot on the spot for such a terible crime against humanity…..
December 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I have been trying to tell Alex that Ohio is now a FASCIST STATE, worse than the old Soviet Union.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Again.. not to take sides. The action of the enforcemnt does seem out of proportion if justified at all.
The story is very vague and enough time has elapsed for the truth to come out.
I have to ask.. What actually happened in this incident. Speculation on my part says there was more to this just just a food coop type setup… They would generally not wanted the publicity by storming such a place.
but until the facts are out..I will reserve. I am not going to jump into a “lynch mob” mentality without knowing what the reason was for such action.
Some considerations, was this a front for parents dealing dope? (If so they didn’t give a damn enough to be smart and prevent themselves from being caught).
Was this one of those famous “One door off the raid type mistakes?
What bothers me most is after reading the article the “family could not be reached for comment”. Does that mean the author of this story REALLY tried to contact them.. or has the family declined to respond due to other reasons.
As Joe Friday says…”Just the facts Ma’am.”
December 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
What is happening to this country? I hope this never happens to me, I would hate to have my family clean up the mess, after they cut me down with MP-5’s.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
GOOD! THEY DESERVED IT! There’s no reason to have more than 3 months supply of food in their house. Who were they going to feed, alqaeda? Criminals? Home grown terrorists? They are the conspirators, not the police. They also had seeds, I bet.
Besides, you loser infoidiots aren’t going to do anything about this anyway. Just sit back and blog about it. Do nothing losers. Go order some food and keep it in your garage so we can take it. At least it’s free for us. And what are you going to do, complain? Write a blog! Ha! Cowards, useless eaters, losers….that’s what all of you are. And whatcha gonna do, huh? Nothing.
We like granola and blueberries with milk. And make sure it’s not that melamine milk. You drink the melamine. We drink the good stuff. Because we’re in control and all of you turds need to placed in camps.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
jasmine just trying to get a rise out of people. she wouldnt be coming to this site if she wasnt skittish like the rest of you..
December 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
@ #17 – You’re a fucking douche people have a right to have as much food as they damn well please. Maybe they stock in case there was an emergency such as an economic fall(woops too late) or an invasion or any type of conflict that would cause them to stay at home maybe they were prepared in case one or both parents lost there jobs you ever think of the you fuck tard!!!!!!! STFU you brainwashed twit
December 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I have told Alex about this place. They started their crimes in the 1980’s!!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
And we accept this……..
December 5th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Jasmine you are a fucking worthless piece of shit!!!!! I can’t wait to kill pieces of shit like you. Go stick that new world order dick back up your ass and shut the fuck up!!!!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
End all government. End police and military, give them a 40 day notice then open hunting season.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
The problem with this is that the WARRENT has to state why they are there, what they are searching for and what they are taking. they should have taken the family outside put them in handcuffs for 1 hour MAX. Then without charges they should let them go. Depending on the situation they may not be allowd back into house. 9 hours = fat ass lawsuit. $$$$
December 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I’m glad all this is happen, it will make most Americans repent and turn back to God.
December 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
TERRORISM: A system of government by terror.
TERROR: Intimidation. Dread; fright; to cause extreme fear.
READ FROM THE SOURCE:
THE Consolidated~Webster ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY
The Library of Essential Knowledge
Chicago 1955
http://budget.net/~ooglah/OOgL…../GIST.html
December 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Most Americans will never see this story.
December 5th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
dear jasmine, or whatever your real name is do you work for BIG BROTHER/FEMA/HOMELANDSHITHEADS OR JUST WHAT MAKES YOU SO BRAINDEAD. ohh i know your with ARMYINTEL aint ya . waiting for lame answer jasmine.
December 5th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
TERRORISM: A system of government by terror.
http://budget.net/~ooglah/OOgL...../GIST.html
TERROR: Intimidation. Dread; fright; to cause extreme fear.
READ FROM THE SOURCE:
THE Consolidated~Webster ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY
The Library of Essential Knowledge
Chicago 1955
December 5th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
At least we have teflon bullets, I can take a few with me if I must….
December 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Hi Jasmine,
Why let’s get in touch. I would love to meet you so you can try to take my shit. See what happens Bitch!!!! There are more of us than you. And we fight for something completely different. Come the fuck over!!!, I dare you.
December 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
this is scary stuff. they have mentioned making food “hoarding” illigeal in the last year .this just proves they are not backing off. if you have storage food you need to think about alternate storage/cacheing
December 5th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
#17Jasmine: LOL…You are such a pathetic fake! Thanks for the laugh!
December 5th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Jasmine, ill be the first to put a bullet in you head.You live by the sword , your gonna die by it too.We are smarter than you. we are in here watching and getting intel.All you government losers can have my food and my guns, when i run out of bullets. As for all you other cry babies. GROW A DICK AND FIGHT , AT LEAST FOR YOURSELF. DO YOU THINK THEY CARE IF YOUR SCARED. JASMINE HONEY, ILL BE SHOVING MY BOOT DOWN YOUR THROAT , JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHERS THAT COME NEAR MY FAMILY.IF ANYONE IS THE LOSERS, AND THE PIECES OF SHIT, IT WOULD BE ALL YOU FEDS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS GENECIDE.GOD WILL SURELY SET YOU FREE, IN HELL, AND ILL BE THERE… WAVING THE KEY. SO JASMINE COME GET YOU SOME….
December 5th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Hi, jasmine we are so glad you came back to the site! we have missed you and we love you so much. you give all good people hope! you are a true human………………human piece of shit!,
so listen up bitch just as soon soon as the shit jumps off we will get your IP address from the site and zero you in you coward. we come and show you just how much we care about you and your naziness you fucking cunt.
we know how pshyche warfare works and how you guys are monitoring the posts to mark us all, we know you are an agent but we dont care if we are marked because we are expecting you fuckers at our houses so, come on down cunty poo we will show all you like minded jackboot johhnys a great time! bring your freinds that would be great cause we would hate to have only 1 or 2 clips full on your worthless evil asses.
have a great day and forever gag on the nuts of American Citizens
thanks for coming felcher
now go eat you daily shit through a tube – we wouldnt want you to break away from your normal duties in the 4th reich
December 5th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
We suffer this and do nothing. How pathetic. We will all be wearing chains of bondage, riveted to us by those that would call us their countrymen. We let this happen. Good men doing nothing when they see evil. You can bet that if their neighbors had all fetched their rifles and started shooting the bastards it would hit the news right then. The treachery will continue till you have had enough.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Roger is completely correct, maybe the “judge” who issued the warrant needs to find out what a “contract” means, a la mob boss Paul Castellano style.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
HEY JASMINE COME OUT AND PLAY .
December 5th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
#19 is just trying to piss people off. the post is not written with genuine feelings. having a large stash of food is a good idea, as a back up and supplement to producing your own. it should not be completely in place of gardening, raising chickens, etc. Just have your stash dry and keep the mice away.
December 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
What goes round comes round, no tender mercies for bureaucrats. Gummitt you call this a gummitt this ain’t no damn gummitt, these are uniformed Thugs. Free Wayne arkansasmilitia.com
December 5th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
we are defininatly going to have to form a government watch dog group to enforce the constitution of the united states,any judge issueing a warrant for this is extremly dangerous,and should be arrested.
December 5th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
PS NO tender mercies for Jasmine. We have a small cage for that cunt.
December 5th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I wonder what merchandise the pigs took? Was it food? There are going to be more food shortages around the world, including here in the U.S. More poverty and more homelessness. Merry Christmas, America!
December 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
We need to do what we can to wake people up, but don’t waste time on the people who aren’t going to hear it. Start a group or organization that meets once a week. Kind of like a think tank that the government likes to organize. Do PEACEFUL protests to let them know we are not in favor of what they are doing. Once we get enough people waking up we must by a safe and a weapon and pull our money out of the banking system. This will hurt them tremendously if enough people do it. Let them know that they have lost our support. They depend on our support. Start a myspace page and go on youtube and start spreading the word and like I said a think tank. Many well organized think tanks to come up with more ideas. This can be done!!!!!!
December 5th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I never get tired of saying this, EVERYONE WITH A BADGE IS A TARGET! I hope this doesn’t happen to me cause I will pull my weapon to defend myself, family and property and I’m sure I will die they have me outarmed and manned. This sucks and look at the frequency of these types of crimes they are getting closer and closer together. Pretty soon we’ll see it everyday in our own neighborhoods…
December 5th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Jasmine…what a fuckpod…is that the name on your birth certificate?
December 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
The Gestapo stormtroopers couldn’t handle it if this type of shit were ever done to them or their family!! OH but they don’t think about that! Just themselves!!
FUCK YOU PIGS!! EVERYONE HATES YOU FOR GOOD REASON!!
December 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
TESLA COILS AREA BITCH.
GUNS CONDUCT ELECTRICITY.
December 5th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
http://www.post-gazette.com/win/
Hundreds of times during the past 10 years, federal agents and prosecutors have pursued justice by breaking the law.
They lied, hid evidence, distorted facts, engaged in cover-ups, paid for perjury and set up innocent people in a relentless effort to win indictments, guilty pleas and convictions, a two-year Post-Gazette investigation found.
Rarely were these federal officials punished for their misconduct. Rarely did they admit their conduct was wrong.
New laws and court rulings that encourage federal law enforcement officers to press the boundaries of their power while providing few safeguards against abuse fueled their actions.
Victims of this misconduct sometimes lost their jobs, assets and even families. Some remain in prison because prosecutors withheld favorable evidence or allowed fabricated testimony. Some criminals walk free as a reward for conspiring with the government in its effort to deny others their rights.
December 5th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Don’t the disinfo agents realize their jobs are going to be outsourced?
December 5th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
For those of us who are keeping stored food this should be a
wake up call.
Just expect the offices of every storable-food business to be
raided in the same manner.
Gov’t thugs are not about to ignore people with caches of
food in their houses, either.
It’s entirely probable that the food we’ve spent thousands on
as an emergency supply for our families will be “confiscated”,
(stolen) by the gov’t along with our guns.
We must make the decision NOW just how far we will allow
these criminals-in-uniform to go with their lying, cheating and
stealing from honest citizens.
If we wait until the heavy knock on the door when they come
for our guns, food and kids it will be too late. To try and resist
one-on-one at that moment will be suicide.
Start finding out which of your neighbors know the score and
are preparing as you are. Develop a plan and a signal to use
when mercenary thugs land in your neighborhood, so there
can be some “safety in numbers”.
The Revolution is going to ignite somewhere, sometime, in
a situation where honest citizens “draw the line” and declare
“WE’VE HAD ENOUGH…NO MORE!” At that time Patriots MUST
band together or we are all lost!
December 5th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
ohio police are pure scum they love taking their rights from their families and children first class scum don’t get any worse than that high theivery as always all about taking their own and our rights at gun point take their guns and they are scared pussies!
December 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Try this in Idaho and see what happens(FORCE FOR FORCE)so to all the GOV that reads this BEWARE————>We call our FRIENDS if you try that here and we have MUCH better Weapons
so this is just a “FREINDLY” warning(((GOT IT)))
REMEMBER this!!
Alot of good Men & Women have paid with their lives to keep this land free from the like’s of what we now face and remember that the Man or Woman standing next to you could very well hold true to the Oath that they have taken and so go ahead and commit acts of unconstitutional aggression against the citizens and you just might get a little surprise from the REAL MEN & WOMEN that serve our land and so to the one’s of honor, I SALUTE you and to the ones that dishonor their Oath, I pity you for when you hold your child, think about the world you are giving to that souls’ future and what you may soon be dying for, like I probably will, (at least my death will be with honor)!
(WILL YOURS)
Sighed,
A VET who cares
December 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Up to this time, there have been no real solutions in dealing with this New World Order scam, and mostly what is happening is there is exposure of their dark designs for the human race. Taking a look at what is going on is enough to make you think very seriously about what to do to preserve your life and the lives of your family. No doubt, hard decisions will have to be made in the near future. What to do when they come for you, that is a good one. Yes, they will come for you, if you are suspect of any kind of anti new world order activity. I think there are going to be some that fight this with guns, and make a good show, but will ultimately be overcome. That is because there is so very little of the people who are aware of what is really going on, and so there will be no help from them. People are generally isolated with their minds filled with television images and propaganda, or they follow radio talk show peoples who refute the reality of the new world order, such as Rush Limbaugh, etc. Denial of what is really happening seems to keep them in a sort of peace that they think things might improve. But, things are going to get much worse and we are going to see it soon. For me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. Not everyone can say that, and I am not preaching to you, just my own personal relationship with Jesus Christ. So, I am ready to die, actually. Not desiring the torture, but they can only kill you once. Face death with confidence, knowing your heart is right with God, is what I say. Expect things to get much worse, but we all have to die sometime, and that is what really is the issue in the end. And all of these crazy satan people will be destroyed in the lake of fire, as several here have testified. I will continue to love and pray for deliverance out of the hand of the enemy. If there is anyone who would like to know about how to enter into the kingdom of God before all this illuminati trash really accelerates, let me know. Peace.
December 5th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
What the heck is going on over there? Please, tell me this isn’t another Wacko I mean waco, TX
December 5th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
this is what we can expect from our cops and government nowadays unfortanently.. very sad in deed..
December 5th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Giant tesla coils are a bitch.
Guns conduct electricity cause they are made of metal.
Guess who has what??????
Guess who has the 4 year Ivy tech degree.
December 5th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
It’s time people.
Grace is gone.
There is no more time.
The choice is clear.
Freedom or Slavery.
Die like a Man.
Or die like a dog.
December 5th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Guarantee you exactly what happened was that some NOSEY-ASS NEIGHBOR, or cable guy, meter-reader, or other stinking RAT told someone, “These people are stockpiling food! They must be turrsts! I bet they even have a B-B Gun!!!….oh, please, call somebody, quick!!!”
The assault and plundering by these PUNKS, boys in men’s clothing, the entire disgusting CRIME, was simply a natural behavior of roidhead, micro-dick, petty criminals, shaking-down what they perceive to be relatively defenseless people whom no one would care to stand up for in this big SHEEP-PEN called “aMERICA” (yes, with a small “A”!) !!!!!!! These bullies, half of whom probabably just got back from kicking-in doors in Iraq or Afghanistan, found an “easy mark”, and decided to go and do some “training”, Stateside, to excercise “new weapons and tactics” on bad ‘ol Americans who commited the terrible crime of wanting to be self-sufficient and left the fuck alone!…that is, of course, the most terrible form of “turr-ism”, daring to step out of the herd!
Just as Solzhenitsyn pointed out, IF, IF,IF Russians would only have taken whatever they could get their hands on (their guns had been taken) and began inflicting casualties on the KGB who came for them and their neighbors, sooner or later, the aggressors would have ceased their aggression.
They keep a-pushin’…people are gonna start pushin’ back!
It’s a crying, fucking shame when a Neighborhood Crime Watch has do as the criminals, and have kids with cell phones watch for cops swarming into their area, here in America…but, looks like it is, unfortunately, a key tactical component of defending one’s Freedom.
December 5th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
OOOOOOH MAN…IIIIIIIIII, IIIIIIIIIII, IIIIIIIIIII, UUUUUUUUGH…REMEMBER THE CARTOONS WHEN THE DOG OR CAT WOULD GET SO MAD THAT THEY TURNED ALL RED AND STEAM CAME OUT THEIR EARS!
December 5th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Wtf. FOOD for fucks sake. Well people, how much of this is eveyone gonna take. When is this cunttree gonna have enough. How many people have to be fucked over. How many will die before people stand up together and stop this shit. What is it gonna take. Whats wrong with this picture. Whats stopping us. Someone please tell me, but I think I know the answer already. It’s a crying shame. Pathetic actually.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
A warm merry xmass to the SWAT BOY’S that “BRAVELY” pointed guns at the folk’s in Ohio.
——> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;index=4 (((You are on NOTICE)))
The ((((Uniform Code of Military Justice)))) has provisions for this and Must be addressed; to do less is the purest form of sadistic “TREASON”.
This is what men of courage must face and confront A.S.A.P. before it is to late. You see, just like all criminals, if they think that the jig is up then they will start getting dangerous and that is now what’s starting to happen ! May God guide your actions….OUT of THUNDER”>ALPHA<
December 5th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I print hand bills of the most important stories and there a lot of people that do not have internet or any television to speak of.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
#71 i agree this country is full of great big pussies. The time to shake hands is over! Blood for blood. I’m not one of them I will take at least one of them with me and beat their ass for the rest of eternity!
December 5th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
They are here to murder you, and protect Lucifer. You think Lucifer wants you to have food you toilets. No they are going to shit on your face and then stomp it, they then will execute you in a gas chamber, then they will shoot your body for fun. They are all about freedom. The Nazi’s are here to exterminate billions….get ready folks. They love hurting people, they love murdering America, you think they give a shit about the Oath they took to protect your life and liberty. HELL NO….they want you dead. MURDERERS. YOU TRAITORS…..YOU FILTH….YOU HELL FORCE……
December 5th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
This story coming from ohio doesn’t surprise me, its a communist state there already it is why I left. The thing that puzzles me all they stories of cop abuse and unconstitutional raids,how come NO ONE has gone postal. Doesn’t the bailout alone make a cuase for some to go nuts on some sorta faction of the Gov’t. Here ya have 700 Billion just go bye bye with no accountablity whatsoever.Why does Paulson yet still breathe?
The article about the twenty thousand troops…. they dont need one soldier, no one does nothing anyway just say there are twenty thousand troops on call 24/7 that’s all. America is full of feminized panty wearing girly men, me included. We do nothing, nothing at all. How many of you have the frame of mind…”If they ever show up at my door, Then i’ll do something” Bullshit, you won’t do nothing but shit your pants. How come no one had a shoot out when the military was going door to door in New Orleans? People were at home, there neighborhoods were intact. Not one guy? Not one nut job that had enough of FUCK FACE uncle sam?
Why are we cowards, you can’t say that we are not. These traders still are suffered to live by US ALL. Not one has been killed for the traitor that they are. What’s it gonna take? America of old is GONE. I use to go shoot my assualt rifle in Ohio on the weekends twenty years ago in the Strip mine pit area of southern Ohio. No one bothered me. NO ONE CARED. Now you would get arrested, put in jail for the weekend,gun confiscated, fined , and have a record.
So many of you talk big on here. FUCK YOU your a pussy like everyone else. If your so tough how come your not on the news? How come the evil, nefarious, inbred demonically inspired swine THAT ARE SUPPOSE TO BE PUBLIC FUCK SERVANTS are still breathing. They have taken it all, our food is poison, the drugs to treat the illnesses we get from eating said poison is poison, the country is full of inferior highly toxic SHIT from COMMUNIST FUCK CHINA. Nothing is made here anymore, manufacturing for the most part has left. We are a third world country.
I guess it’s the beast in revelation coming to power. Its says no one is able to wage war against it. No one wants to apparently. When the bible talks of a “beast” it usually means a political regime. Such as the NW FUCK YOU. If a FED piece of shit or actually the twenty plus that are usually associated with a storm trooping were to be going door to door in your neighborhood what would you REALLY do. Time for alter-ego fantasizing is over people. Would you open fire? I mean REALLY open fire. Your dead if ya do, ya know ya are. SO would you?
I myself have pretty much abandoned all forms of natural hope. I trust in Christ and my faith in him and am wrestling with being passive and letting nature run its course or going postal. I really don’t know at this point. I will be making a short list of federal employee’s in my area. Maybe to just pray over or maybe not, one never knows with a psychopath.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Folks, I live in Ohio and I keep trying to tell everyone Ohio is quickly turning into one of the biggest police states out there, but they’re doing it stealthly…At least once a week a twinbill solid black hellicoptor will drop as low as our treeline and make several trips right over our neighborhood a day. Continue to wake up everyone you know. i had known of the Jones Report for several years, but only a year ago found Alex on our local station……….
December 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
USA, USA lol lol lol. Don’t j00 guise know? Your supposed to starve to death!. Help your neighbour? At a time like this? No sir!. That’s straight to jail for you. Get used to it.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
There will come a time soon where some swat team is going to come up on one of us in this land we call the United states and will get handed there hats for good,sad as that may be.
Well may god giude all your actions and let love of FREEDOM drive your hearts as our CHILDREN
FUTURE DEPENDS ON IT(You have but ONE life)——>MAKE IT COUNT<——
December 5th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Use a live linux CD.
I use Puppy linux myself.Allows for install of -Wine-Allows for running of windows apps!!!!.
Other distros out there include
Slax.
Mepis.
Knoppix.
Ubuntu.
DSL Linux.
Most have the mozilla browser allready installed and ready to go.
NO hard drive needed!!!!.
No hard drive needed on the IDE or SATA cable either.
Many Live linux distros allow for customizing.
If you currently are using Windows and visit websites like this or make posts you may want to look at one of these distros for safety.
They do not touch the Hard Drive when booted from Live CD/DVD.
MakeS for a great ANTIFORENSIC TOOL.
Yeah i bet this post just pissed off alot of FEDS…….
If the NWO wants to play rough–let the hacks show you a few tricks.
I’m a layed off computer tech and electronics designer–Pl$$ poor and don’t give a d@m
anymore.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
911/JFK Video must see
Video Link : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5vmsx_jfk
December 5th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Ohhh, #76…
We’re not all “girly men”.
The true stories I could tell you, brother, would
perhaps give you some hope that our Republic
is not lost for good.
I’m 62 years old and as good as I was, (in the ways
that count) at 30, and I want you-all to know this:
These bully cops and thug soldiers who like to gun
down unarmed women and kids,
THEY are the “girly men” and are TERRIFIED of an
armed and determined population. Why else send an
entire SWAT unit to hold one family with little kids
hostage?
What the NeoNazis know is there are millions of
American men who will gently smile at their p*ssy
cops, and then calmly leave their brains blown all
over the landscape.
Yes yes, my friend, the stories I could tell…
December 5th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Good video number 81
December 5th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Post #77
buy a barnett 50.cal, the one with a clip that holds ten rounds it’ll cost 10 grand who cares charge it. you’ll find them in gun shows everywhere in ohio. look for 50 cal tracer rounds. some shows guys carry armor piercing tracers that are still legal because they were grandfathered in prior to the armor piercing ban. Then just walk your rounds into the fucking black mosquito or do nothing like everyone else, it will only get worse. then one day you’ll look back, we all will, why didn’t we do something. IT WOULDA BEEN SOOOOO FUCKING EASY
December 5th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Big Tim, you are wrong, the Davidians fought back valiantly, even gave the cowards the lieniancy to fall back and collect their dead when they ran out of bullets, Randy Weaver fought back, the Freemen fought back and you are wrong about New Orleans, I live down here, the nazis had media free zones, when the reitance picked up against the FEMA rats and blackwater, they had to send in the Mairne special forces capable units to mop them up, there were mounds of resisters that were murdered.
Several other individuals stand up but are silenced, just as you never hear of the 2.1 million people who save their own lives with firearms….we ARE killing the scumbags, with and without badges, the CIA run media just covers it up.
December 5th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Excellant point 87, I am ahead of ya there, the main idea is to create barriers so that when they try to chuck flash bangs and bum rush, you provide yourself with reaction time, secure your windows against the flashbangs, various materials can be fashioned around the window to that effect, get creative.
It is prudent not to give away to many defense ideas on this venue.
December 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
SWAT stands for Stupid Worthless Arrogant Traitors.
December 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
This shits gotta stop. Its obvious it wont be able to stopped with words though.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
December 5th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
#85
You’re right and if offended those that have stood up against this evil with my rant I apologize, just too many of us on the sidelines not doing anything me included. #82 TELL THEM, PLEASEEEEEE
December 5th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
ATTENTION ALL MILITARY, POLICE, AND PERSONNEL,
“EITHER YOU ARE WITH US” OR….
YOU ARE WITH THE NWO.
December 5th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Some of you just do not get it, The constitution tells us how to stop this! Join a lawfull militia, or are you just too chicken? “The armed masses could never be taken by an army large enough”
your ” Liberty teeth” is the answer!
December 5th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
#9
A large enough militia can take care of this, then they can call on the other local militia’s to help out as needed. The govt then runs the risk of waking up the rest of the monster if they escalate.
Get hooked up! For you that are just too chicken #$#% to join, I do not want to hear your complaining.
December 5th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
This type of stuff will happen where there is the fewest militia!
December 5th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
I have to admit.. the concept of “militia” has been portrayed as a “KKK” type mentality by the media along with the Aryan Nation “compounds” of Idaho fame.. but if I lived in an area where this type of activity by law enforcement occured frequently with the support of the Judicial system.. something would have to give sooner or later. Again..as posted earlier.. I do not know what brought this on this family. I amsure/would like to think it is more than just caheing food/operating a “food co-op”..
If this turns out to be an abuse of power by law enforcement.. someone has to be held accountable somewhere and by someone. Obviously the system will not check itself.. so the people would have to either accept this treatment or make a satnd at some point.
The question remains.. how much will the people of an area like this take” and when will they stand up against it as a group..first by legal means and then by any means necessary.
People who abuse power are slow to get the message.. that is why they abuse power.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:06 am
For those of you who feel so helpless against this treason, pick up a proper battle rifle and I promise you will not feel quite so helpless! Have you males ( not men) given in to your weakneses to the point you have become a chicken shit? Join a lawfull local militia but stay away from groups who talk about explosives because that is not covered under the 2nd amendment.
There are many balistic and technical points you must learn about due to new technology.
If you can help it , do not use an AK 47 for your main battle rifle, it lacks penetration qualities.
The AK 47 in todays battle field is best suited against third world armies.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:10 am
# 97
You are asleep! This has all gone too far for any rational reasoning to work.
It is called a NWO agenda! No pen will work at this point dummy!
Your eyes may be open but there is no one home!
December 6th, 2008 at 12:28 am
#97
Are you a man that knows the truth or do you care about what the govt controlled media thinks about you?
You sound like a spoon fed liberal weakling!
December 6th, 2008 at 12:29 am
STUPID FUCKING FAMILY. IF THEY WERENT LIVING IN AMERICA, THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Rick.. You are wrong there.. I have dealt with the system many times in the past six or so years. I have been threatened by judges and law enforcement. I am usually the type to be impatient when dealing with these type idiots.. But I quickly figured out that when you display a loss of control.. They have you. It is bery important you force them to play their game initially..and when you lose control you cannot do that. They do not know how to deal with people who are informed of their rules. Usually the avaerge Joe/Jane runs around like a chicken with their head cut off yelling “MY RIGHTS !!!!!” and when they are questioned about their righst they don’t have a clue.. and the game begins.
I am very much awake.. but not stupid. I will say it again.. I DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS INCIDENT and to come to a conclusion without facts is no better than what the law did ..and I am not like them.
Additionally, after noting the family didn’t respond to defend themselves(assuming the author of this article tried to contact them in a reasonable fashion and the family THEMSELVES refused contact) then I will have to assume something is being hidden.
I wouldn’t want to be judged by a jury that only has half the facts , nor would you I assume. You are reacting… not resolving. There is a difference.
I don’t go off half cocked..and do not knowingly hang around people who do. I am more responsible than that. I don’t care if the people or the cops were wrong. I care about the facts and the truth. That I am “awake” to.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:36 am
#88
You sound like a good man.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:43 am
RED YAWN NOW you are a patronising little worm.
People like you are what made America great. A great joke.
“It is prudent not to give away to many defense ideas on this venue.”
Who the fuck really talks like that ? Seriously, you sound like you’ve got a cock in your mouth. Your own cock.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:44 am
# 102
Good input. I am likely a little like you, I have seen and been around the block. I have no record of violence but I will not give up my free speech no matter how they want to classify it! And it is obvious what has to be done. The more people who preach this the better off we are!
December 6th, 2008 at 1:12 am
Again.. To Rick –
Did you actually read post # 88 revolutionIScoming story?
He is an example of what I am trying to make a point on.
This guy’s house was raided not only once BUT TWICE in as many days?
“MY HOUSE WAS RAIDED 2 TIMES IN 99″
He left off one little detail.. The “Why?” part. Cops are generally lazy and don’t seek more work than they already have. In fact that is why I think many get pissed off.. it is because they have to work more than they think they should.
“THEY STOLE ALL MY GUNS,”
Taking his word for it.. they removed his guns and he never got them back? Again.. something missing. Unrealistic without a valid reason..
” TOOK ME FOR 72 HOURS AND THREW ME OUT THE DOOR ON MY BIRTHDAY MARCH 23RD,”
Some people tend to overdo the alcohol thing on their birthday.. I am willing to be the truth be known someone made an ass of themselves here. He knows for sure.
” I BOUGHT ALL NEW GUNS THAT DAY AND THEY CAME BACK THE NEXT DAY, STOLE MY GUNS, TOOK ME FOR 2 WEEKS THAT TIME.”
Went out and bought new guns after the police stole his old guns?
“I GOT OUT AND BOUGHT ALL HIGH POWER GUNS, RIGGED MY HOME WITH BOOBY TRAPS,PUT KNIFES AND AN AXE IN THE BACK ROOM AND TOLD EVERYONE I’M GOING TO DIE TOMMORROW IF THEY COME BACK, I’M FIGHTING IT OUT, I WILL NOT BE TAKEN ALIVE AGAIN.”
I think this guy is a liar.. I am getting that he is saying (by his words) that two sets of his guns were confiscated for no valid reason at this point in HIS story. This guy is lucky he wasn’t locked up in some mental institution and that would be used to disqualify him from ever legally buying a firearm again.
THEY NEVER CAME BACK.
STAND YOUR GROUND. THEY CANT TAKE US ALL.
In summary.. this is a tall tale by some want to be rebel. This is no more than a story of someone who tends to breech trouble too often.
I cannot condone or defend this type of behavior.. nor would I want to depend on someone with thsi mentality in a tight situation where life and limb depended on their ability to control themselves. He is exactly what law enforcement and the legal system loves.. Cheap entertainment.
And he was locked up for no reason? Something was left out of his story..and if the told people he was “
December 6th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Big Tim,
I am sorry that happened to you. The law did not protect me either , 4 different times and I lost everything, including my health. I will not be assaulted like that again! Of course now I know that was all planned anyway, the taking of all our rights. I will fight and die if needed, I took the oath and I plan on keeping it!
December 6th, 2008 at 1:40 am
Casual observer,
Ok, you explained that well. I think I see the light Ha! Ha!
But my story is very true. I do not know that guy and I did not invest fully in what he said, I was just sorry if that happened the way he presents it, but I see your point. Sometimes two heads are better than one.
December 6th, 2008 at 2:29 am
Steve
Good stuff!
December 6th, 2008 at 2:55 am
Come on Alex ……………too vague
not worth publishing
December 6th, 2008 at 4:03 am
Steve,
We know 911 was an inside job but this type of thing is also outlined in ” Operation Vampire killer 2000″ It is called the ” Heglean” principle. This is when a problem is created then a solution offered like the Patriot act or phone taping or gun bans, this is designed to get us one step closer to their agenda which is the NWO. for the ignorant they are ready to accept any type of rights restrictions so they can be ” Safer” but of course we all know this is bullshit!
December 6th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Storming the family coops now? Bring it on please! Things like this will only bind us closer and strengthen our resolve to resist and prepare. I love my coop! Its a pillar for the community, lots of smug know-it-all’s, but aside from the snobbery I love what my coop has done for the minds and bodies of my community.
December 6th, 2008 at 6:09 am
I’d like to know what they took, specifically. Then, what they did with it.
December 6th, 2008 at 6:23 am
There are updates;
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/263090
In addition to finding out the COPS STOLE $10,000 in food and took their computers and their cell phones, I found out that the warrant was for a 3rd degree MISDEMEANOR. SWAT, guns pointed at kids, breach entries, over a 3rd degree MISDEMEANOR. Those CRIMINALS that call themselves COPS should be ashamed of themselves. they should turn in their badge then turn themselves in for PROSECUTION and spend their time in PRISON for their CRIMES!!!
Update:
1820hrs: December 5, 2008
A call to the Lagrange Township Sheriff’s Department, 440-329-3710, and the Lorain Sheriff Dept., (440)355-4469, Reports there was no SWAT call for that address December 1st.
The Family is still not available for further comment but the IRN Network Bureau Chief reported SWAT was there with a specific Department of Agriculture agent.
I placed a call to John Loeffler who is presently recording his radio show and he will respond by phone when he comes out.
More details to follow as they are revealed…
December 6th, 2008 at 8:57 am
SWAT is not going to be deployed to a situation unless there is something very wrong. Remember these guys have families too. I seriously doubt they where holding there weapons on toddlers to keep them in line. I call bullshit.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:08 am
We the people MUST have the same mindset as the terrorists that do this to us.
When they hit us hit them back 5 times as hard.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Chris B, don’t be a blind dupe, somehow you think these cops are as pure as the wind driven snow? what a joe, cops evrywhere are murdering people with tasers, putting false and unconstitutional charges on people, such as hauling them in for having and or reading the bill of rights, exempli gratia, Washington D.C., they are strip searching innocent women, eg., Holly from Canton Ohio, the list of crimes is infinite.
Look at what the cowards of the ATF are doing and have done, there is no reason,(they have no reasoning ability) they are criminals.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:24 am
IF ANY OF YOU THINK THAT THE PIGS ARE LAW-ABIDING AMERICANS…YOU ARE WRONG.
COPS ARE THE PUPPETS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE GOVERNMENTS AND THEY WILL NOT THINK TWICE ABOUT SACRIFICING YOUR WORTHLESS LIFE. THIS IS HOW THEY SEE US, AS POTENTIAL ENEMIES. COPS ARE THE ENEMY, WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK WITH CAMERAS, VOICE RECORDERS, BY USING THE LAWS AGAINST THEM, ETC. IF IT COMES TO MORE THAN THAT, REMEMBER, COPS ARE VASTLY OUTNUMBERED AND THEY KNOW IT.
THESE SOB’S THINK THEY LIVE IN SOVIET RUSSIA? LET’S GIVE THEM A REVOLUTION.
DON’T TRUST ANY PIG…THEY WILL MURDER YOU OR A FAMILY MEMBER AND COVER IT UP. THESE ANIMALS HAVE NO HEART, NO CONSCIOUSNESS, NO AMERICAN VALUES.
COPS ARE THE ENEMY OCCUPIERS BY VIRTUE OF THEIR ACTIONS. WE THEY START ACTING LIKE AMERICANS, I’LL EAT EVERY WORD UTTERED HERE.
I WON’T HOLD MY BREATH….
December 6th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Yeah ChrisB, they have families, and that’s what makes this even more disgusting. The only way this is going to stop is if these criminal thugs are held accountable in the court of public retaliation.
We’re quickly becoming worse than Nazi Germany, and we’d better start standing up for ourselves and our neighbors, and let these toy soldiers know that every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Sure Chris B, it’s all bullshyt till it happens to you…
December 6th, 2008 at 10:45 am
If these actions are so prevalent as you suggest. Why is it that no one is doing anything about it?
December 6th, 2008 at 10:50 am
This is cute! A bunch of jackbooted thugs kick their way in, hold a family at gunpoint, get “relieved” by uniformed cops, confiscate the evil food & records. And now the local sheriffs deny any SWAT involvement. The family was also told that they had NO RIGHTS. Has anyone else thought that the entry team might not have even been cops/SWAT. Maybe, Maybe, they were some USDA “Special Response Team”. Or how about a group of Blackwater types. Or maybe the sheriffs are LYING. Just like the Nazi’s, deny it even if you’re caught red handed. Deny,deny, deny. Do it long enough and it becomes the “truth”. Ever heard of “The Big Lie”?
December 6th, 2008 at 11:05 am
#122 The best way I’ve heard that referred to is “no-knocking on your door”. I have to give credit to Tommy Cryer for that one, though I don’t like his method of fighting the IRS/Fed…Peter Hendrickson has a better approach in that respect.
December 6th, 2008 at 11:19 am
They are Chriss, the CIA run media blacks them out, people fight those bastards all the time, the only ones who make the news are the actual nutbars who actually need to be swatted.
Here in Mississippi, they did this to an old women, she held out a good while, she did nothing, justy wanted to be left alone in her home, she held them off with a shotgun, rightfully so for a good while, that is all the details I recall.
Also, here in formerly free Mississippi, they are stealing peoples houses under the corupt auspices of the ICC,international construction code, so..when poeple don’t maintain their yards or have a boat or RV or something on land they want, the maggots steal it and are putting thee elderly people in homes. That too is blacked out though it has been in our local papers to an extent.
December 6th, 2008 at 11:30 am
When I see scum like this I almost look forward to martial law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD8pAj-6j8E
December 6th, 2008 at 11:44 am
I do look foward to martial law, I am plum sick of this facade of life, just existing while all our ights are stripped and our country is eat up with commycancer and mental retardation that is globalism and the junk science of global warming etc.,
December 6th, 2008 at 11:56 am
#126 – i agree.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
RedDawn – maybe we should do what the Elite are doing. create an incident so they declare martial law. beat them at their own game.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
REMO CONSCIOUS: “We’ve got 2 choices, protest or pick up shotguns”
December 6th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I have listened to Alex’s Podcast, for a month or two, Finally had some time to do some research as he suggested.
Thursday’s show he talked about an Article in the Washington Post Saying that they were going to abolish the national Guard and put them under Northcom. This is COMPLETE Hogwash and Fearmongering. I could not find ANY article about this ANYWHERE. Though some of the things he talks about have some truth, Most of this is just FEARMONGERING CRAP!
December 6th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Red coats are coming, good point, but, we really don’t have to “create” anything, there are plenty of criminals from which to choose from, plenty of foreign elements and criminal organizations that need to be adressed, it is”a target rich enivironment.” It is onlt a matter of conviction, commitment and means now.
On the other hand, while we are all tired of waiting for the inevitable, they are in fact accelerating their program, I just heard a report that they have invited 30,000 united troops upon our soil, this, in concwert with obama bin bundy’s promise to employ those rogue units against us. coincidentally, people are now being require3d to get special I.Ds called twic cards which are for the maggot united nations in that they have claimed/comandeered our water ways, so now, American citizens are required to get special I.D.s to comply with a foreign organization.
So, foreign organized crime has claimed our terrtorial waters while our ownun-representatives in congress have illegally comandeered our water rights here within our borders.
Here recently, I have been seeing alot of foreign/sovgiet block equipment rolling down the interstate, not long ago, there was a mile or so of soviet block equipment on a train here on the coast, by the time I was advised of it, I was too late to go get pictures.
In short, as General Stublebine said, we are already under seige.
Anyone who has the means should act to stop tyranny at any time they have the opportunity, there trully is nothing left to “waite” for.
December 6th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
That’s right, No Longer Listener. Everything is OK. We can all go back to sleep now.
December 6th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
No longer listener, you have researched incorrectly, actually, poppy bush comandeered the national guard and put it under federal authority late last year/early this year, I forget the date, but my pessimistic construction partner who never believes anything till he sees it with his own eyeballs, ( like a moron) informed me and that is exactly what they did.
Just because you havn’t found it yet, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
December 6th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
#88 How about deer slugs?
Workable against flak jackets?
December 6th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
A short time from now they’ll swat your home if they suspect you of hoarding a twinky!
December 6th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
I got a box of fresh Dunkin’ Donuts jelly donuts and some fresh Dunkin Donuts coffee too.
UH-OH
OH -SH!T!!!!
SLAM! BANG>>>>>FLASH GRENADE GOES OFF>>>BAM WHAAAAM!!!!! 27 COPS RUSH IN AND TACKLE EACH OTHER TO THE FLOOR GRABBING FOR COFFEE AND DONUTS.
Cop throws me to the ground——yells—-where are some more donuts!!!!!!! we want more –more more YOU HERE ME BOOOOOOY!!!????? You here me????????? where is some meore coffee???
Cop pulls out taser put it to my spine —ZZAAAAAAAAP!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! UH! ZAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH! falls to floor dead.
December 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Where is the militia
December 6th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
I have obviously hit a mental spot. I have always prepared for the worst and am doing quite well and independent of the food supply of Walmart fame. While I do buy a few thinsg along.. I can do with what I have grown myself. Meat is no problem either.
As far as someone helping ME out.. I probaly help others more than I do for myself at times… moneywise and otherwise. I don’t have a problem helping people who I think deserve it..and some who don’t.
You defend me? How can you do that when at any moment you are “being held”(as opposed to locked up) when I tend to get my point across to law enforcement when I encounter them and remain free to do as I pretty much please.
I summary, I have my ducks in a row and remain in control of my faculties, when someone like you obviously doesn’t.
And as far as militia members, I do not consider a bunch of disorganized people chomping at the bit to get to something they are not sure about. The military is well organized and it would be my hope they would default if ordered to use force on US citizens if ordered, but I am not banking on that.
As far as you “anti-Fed Rally”.. a Bapatist “temple” is a fairly safe place to conduct such a rally, not if you did that in Arlington Cemetary or in front of the White House you would have some consideration from me.. And getting a few people to rant and rave along with you(assuming you are not telling another tall tale) is not “leading”..
How can you lead when you can’t even control yourself and probably cannot follow either.
If it comes down to me being in a condition where I need help and someone like you is in a position, which I doubt, I will do without.
December 6th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
If it was a food co-op, the nazis went there for the mailing list so they could find others who are preparing and cross reference networking. Survivalist + food = silver, gold and guns. When is this party gonna get started.
December 6th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
FascismFighter, I agree with you. Scum, like Richard Gage, does make me look forward to martial law as well. If anyone knows anything about the laws of physics, then they know that they couldn’t have placed bombs around the Twin Towers to help them collapse. First of all, how are you going to set up the bombs without anyone noticing? And secondly, it was the weight of the top of the Towers pressing down on the weakened structure that made the towers collapse.
Anyway, I’m getting off topic. Personally I would love to know why the SWAT team went in there and held that family at gun point without giving them a reason or at least a phone call. What did that family do? If the SWAT team was called in, there was obviously a reason of some sort. Wasn’t there?
December 6th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Here is one for the people: C.R.U.S.H. Citizens Responding to Unconstitutional Sanctions and
Harrassment. They got Stike teams and SWAT teams – form a CRUSH Team in your neighborhood
today! Be a CRUSH team of one and form your own Neighborhood Defense Committee (NDC).
Determine your own rules of engagement with a SCPDD (Sovereign Citizen Personal Decision
Directive). Then prepare to use defensive force against a ruthless, brutal, violently radicalized treasonous government that is conducting warfare operations against the American People.
December 7th, 2008 at 12:08 am
“If anyone knows anything about the laws of physics, then they know that they couldn’t have placed bombs around the Twin Towers to help them collapse. First of all, how are you going to set up the bombs without anyone noticing? And secondly, it was the weight of the top of the Towers pressing down on the weakened structure that made the towers collapse. ”
Have you even watched any films about the collapes’?
Many Many Many Many first hand witnesses can, will, have stated they heard BOMBS going off in sub-basements and floors throughout the towers.
How could no one notice you ask? Well lets see here… For weeks leading up to 9/11 there was construction of some sort being done, which gives ‘opportunity’ under the guise of actual construction.
Evidence of thermite used to ‘cut’ some crucial beams is apparent.
Not to be mean or anything, but come on Archangel do you really believe that there isnt an element within our government that is capable of wanting to kill you?
Look at Eugenics for example. Nazi scientists lead the movement, whilst American operatives worked feverishly to bring those same men back to the USA under project paperclip. Do you think they just gave up on their beliefs like you would on Your God?
Notice all of the companies buying up gold recently??? Its everywhere, sell us your gold dirt cheap to buy your kids milK! do it before its too late my friend.
If I were trying to consolidate the worlds gold I would definately crash the dollar so that the little old lady would have no choice but to sell her 10k worth of gold for 1k.. FFS man wake up!
Propaganda is everywhere! Rap music is gaining more and more following of tweens.. these are 7-10 year old boys and girls. They put their pink fluffy earbuds in and memorize the latest pop your booty songs. They are teaching your children its ok to call women bitches and hoes while sleeping with random people..
FFS even Nickelodeon is spending more time with your kids then most of American Parents… but watch Nick and see how much reference there is to misbehaving and sex and drugs.
To finish this rant, I suggest you listen to what people outside of the USA have to say about what our government is doing. Watch a couple Youtube videos on Hearings of parliment and such about disney and sexual propaganda.
Most of you know this but for those of you here that are skeptical… A good friend of mine, whom we shall call, “Matthew” said he would glady patrol the streets of America and shoot unarmed civillians should the Army tell him to.. Because these times are tough, people with little to no will, shall inevitabley follow those that can provide for them. Let us organize our Revolution. There are far too many groups and organizations deidcated to a peaceful revolution or one that will oust a corrupt system. We need one large gathering where we can be heard in force, one in which they CANNOT deny our numbers and our message of freedom and liberty and LIFE for all! I love you all brothers and Godspeed.
December 7th, 2008 at 12:21 am
To add to my last post……..
http://answers.yahoo.com/quest.....045AAzM9cA
Case in point, a skyscraper hit by a commercial airline, full of jet fuel burning at a couple thousand degrees, is like throwing a molotov at a gas station. The weakened structure caused by the plane crashing in to the building [think twisted metal, knocked out walls, bent support beams, etc) plus the prolonged heat, and liquidity of the jet fuel (spreading around much like a molotov shattering) and because steel isn’t pure, caused the now weakened structure to collapse under its own weight. Top of building pushing down upon the lower levels (bent support beams, etc) would eventually collapse in on itself like a house of cards. As for the bomb theory you know how many wires would be crisscrossing all over the place? i think i wouldn’t go to work having to trip over wires, besides how would you work with all the drilling into the walls and support just to place the explosives? takes alot of explosives to professionally take a building down, let alone time to set it up. A good theory would be maybe a terrorist buy off? paying bin laden to do it? Of course I think the powers that be (illuminanti, etc) perhaps didn’t plan the cause (towers falling) just used what happened as a good excuse to void our constitution, and turn ourselves into a police state (as they’ve been planning that for century’s i’ll admit that) but 9/11 being an inside job? that i doub’t, i think it was just convenience for them that a major event shook us up enough for their evil plans to actually pass.
December 7th, 2008 at 12:57 am
JohnB., Yes I have watched videos of the Towers collapsing. I know a few people who died in it (God rest their souls) and hearing idiots like you saying it was a conspiracy makes me mad. There is no way it can be a conspiracy. I was in NYC when it happened. I saw the planes fly over and hit the Towers. I didn’t have to wait for the News to get there to cover it. I WAS THERE!!!! Yes, I heard the “bombs”. They were the support beams giving way and I’m sure there were arisol cans and shit like that throughout the buildings (in desk drawers, purses, etc…).
And what the hell does that last part of your post have to do with anything? Kids listening to rap and being raised by the TV. Get out of here with that crap. Kids are listening to rap because it’s the “in” thing. Didn’t you know that everyone listens to rap??!? *rolls eyes* They aren’t being forced to do it (I.E. no gun to their heads). They do it because their friends do and their older siblings do. I’m sure you did things cause your friends and/or older sibling(s) did. As for being raised by the TV, too many parents these days are too busy trying to make money to support their families. My sister-in-law and her husband are in that situation. They make rent, but can’t afford much after that. Ever watch show like Nanny 911? Maybe then you’ll understand why the TV is a substitute for the lack of the parents being able to pay attention to the kids because they think having food, water, electricity, clothing, and a roof over their heads are more important. I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s better than the kids playing outside with no parental supervision and getting kidnapped or taking on worse habits. Like buying from a druggie thinking they are buying candy when it’s really drugs and getting addicted at 7 or 10 years old.
December 7th, 2008 at 1:16 am
I worked in the steel industry for over a decade, and learned full well that to even weaken steel you need several things:
One is a hot burning fuel
Another is forced air.
To melt it, you need forced oxygen.
Jet fuel burns cool (in relation to coal which is used in the steel industry) and the forced air that goes with the coal can easily levitate the steel and blow it out the top of the blast furnace (or cupola). Furthermore, the forced air is pre-heated to thousands of degrees by a heat exchanger before it even goes into the blast furnace, because the oxygen in the air is inadequate to create the heat necessary to melt steel unless it is extremely pre-heated and then burned at an already high temperature.
At the wtc, there was no coal, only jet fuel – similar to Kerosene, and there was no forced air, let alone at a high temperature. To top it all off, most of the windows stayed in place on the floors that were directly hit, provided they were not on the side the plane impacted. So there was a stifled flame burning a low temperature fuel; the windows that remained in place prevented a cross flow of wind and really stifled the flames. And what about the fire control sprinkler systems? would they not cool it further? It can’t be argued that the airplane broke all the pipes, because if it did they would have gushed water right where it was most needed, further stifling the flames. Obviously, they did. A hot burning fire produces little smoke – obviously the one in the trade center had serious troubles keeping lit because it smoked like crazy.
Jet fuel is a low temperature fuel because it has to be burned in an engine that is under tremendous stress without melting the engine. Even with plenty of forced air, a jet engine does not melt. You don’t use Kerosene or any other liquid petroleum in the steel industry – it simply does not have the kick it needs.
My conclusion, after considerable observation of the behaviors of steel at high temperatures and what it takes to get it hot enough to weaken, is that there is positively no chance that the jet fuel could have done anything AT ALL; and I am right – that is that.
This site is obviously being clobbered by Jewish shills, who want the ignorant who have not figured this all out yet to just turn their heads away from the real culprits who live in Israel and have a stranglehold on our media and government.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Ukkranian potato famine. My grandmother told stories of the soviets storming homes and taking food. This was meant to deter defection and force the villages to bow to soviet might.
History repeats itself, only with new technology and new politics.
The human element remains the same.
Barbarism.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:51 am
WoW there are a few people here who shouldnt have guns at all! The bible warns about these people who are quick to shed blood. I read alot of comments saying its to late for our police and military and we should just kill em all and boobytrap our house.- dont get me wrong im all about being prepared for the nwo, but there is still time to wake people up rather than kill them. I just got out of the AF after 6 years because i became informed- I still have alot of good friends who know all about this stuff and will not obey if they are called to do something unconstitutional, i also have alot of police friends. But did i start saying i was gonna shoot everyone up when i left- No. I woke them up, I went online and bought hundreds of cheap dvds @ onedollardvdproject.com- then i bought a 7tier dvd burner- I have given out thousands of them waking people up to what is going on- i would rather have more good people on my side in my community rather than get on line and complain all day.—–If you want to be a true patriot. This is my homework assignment for U!- do the same get to know some police and pass em out- burn hundreds of copies, purchace some videos from alex and burn em and give em out for free. If you live by a military base pass em out outside of the gate.
The new world order wants to divide and concor- simple less work for them – be smarter!
For those of you that simply want to shoot at our police and military- the devil already has you just as decieved as the nwo folks- read you Bibles wwjd
December 7th, 2008 at 9:01 am
And the US is “fighting” terrorism abroad? This is typical and classic pshychological warfare. Inflict fear in the people and, like Wally Kosa (153) said, to bow to the might of your superior.
The people must get rid of all this garbge, there’s too much of it.
December 7th, 2008 at 11:15 am
JASMIN is not even a WOMEN… its just some no life GUY
December 7th, 2008 at 11:39 am
what part of corruption is good?
It seems to me that the NWO supporters,,,, have never worked a honest full days work is their entire life
LOL
December 7th, 2008 at 11:48 am
This is all about controlling the food supply. They eventually want everyone getting their food from corporate farms that use gentically altered seeds and fertalizers. Check out Monsanto. It’s a combined effort with chemtrails that put who knows what in the air, vaccines, the water supply and probably things we can’t even imagine to dumb down and reduce the population on a global level.
December 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Ya, OK, SO WHATS THE REST OF THE STORY? The Swat team just doesn’t barge in your home and take your food. Thats dumb. That’s what makes this website and Alex so laughable most of the time. They only print part of the story in hopes of pissing off gullible and impressionable people hoping they will somehow cause the chaos they wish they could cause because they are spineless chickenshits. It is my opinion that if they really believed all they bullshit lies and fear and conspiracy theories they spout off here they would be doing a hell of alot more than just talking about it.
December 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
This is sickening but it also makes me wonder what is the other side of the story. While the SWAT raid is a bit much, the involvement of Ohio’s department of Agriculture may be a valid reason for the investigation. But not allowing a phone call, or given their rights is certainly uncalled for (illegal in itself) and frightening. There are peaceful ways of investigating food stocks and business practices, I guess that is no longer taught in today’s government institutions.
December 7th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Look how scared this poor kid looks.
Elian Gonzales
http://www.3cdf.com/old3cdf/ht.....thepic.jpg
December 7th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I LIKE THE REALLY REALLY BIG TESLA COIL IDEA!!! MAKE ONE BIG ENOUGH ON YOUR ROOF JUST SET IT OFF WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES!!! ZAP ZAP ZAP
December 7th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but God TV ch.365 on directv is playing Riddles in Stone a program about the secret societies, occult symbols, etc in our nation. They also are talking about alot of the same stuff Alex Jones speaks of. People are waking up in droves! If you know any religous types that might not lesten to Alex yet, these programs may be just what they need to see.
December 7th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Well here you go America, the Illuminati are testing the waters to see how far they can push,
and mr. ignorant policeman is eventually gonna push someone that pushes back. I really don’t get all you sac-o-crap cops out there, when I was growing up, the cops were our friends, we respected them, we admired them and we damn well feared them in a good way (sort of like having a holy fear of God) Anyway, it seems like you guys are all punks these days, well you might be all that and a can of spam, when attacking a family of pacifist Christians, but wait until you kick in the door of this retired seal, or my neighbor the green beret, or my brother the ranger… You animals have yet to go up against someone that doesn’t care whether they live or die, but only that they do the right thing… Oh well, see you punks soon!
December 7th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Piece of shit cops, you will all die. Stop now.
December 7th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Keep it up you Corrupt cops and swat cops, you are going after god fearing people . you have truly lost your way under the guise of the NWO, you will lose in the end, you and all your families. you are using nazi tactics to instill fear into people who love the constitution. You are a bunch of bastardized jerks with no brains and you cant think on your own anylonger. it’s a sad day when the police who used to serve and protect have become the true terrorists.
the day is coming when millions of god loving americans are going to hold you all acccountable, and when it happens we will try you in a true court of law and then we will hang you according to the constitution of these United States.
Keep it up you jack booted thugs with no brains, you will mess up and when you do all hell is going to break lose, you don’t have enough cops and military to stop the onslaught that is going to befall you. you will be fighting against ex police officers, military, etc. Do you think for one moment we are just going to walk to our death by the likes of you assholes, I dont think so.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Hokay, I got all worked up over this story ,posted links to it on otherboards Only to come back and skim throught the comment… reply#12 to the original article says”
@■ Michael Goss
Update: The entire story was BS.
I just got off the phone with the Captain in charge of the SWAT team for Lorain, Ohio Sheriff’s office. This incident happened several days ago and there was no, repeat **no** SWAT team present. There was no family terrorized at gunpoint for hours.
There were four regular road deputies accompanying a representative of the Ohio Department of Agriculture in the execution fo a search warrant. Having law enforcement personnel present is routine and the warrant was executed without incident.
Hmmmm…..interesting….
Actually Patrick, you have made the assumption and take the word of the family that is obviously “under the gun” alright — probably for running an unlicensed business. If that family were mine and I was actually “terrorized”, I’d have been on the phone to my lawyer and the local paper in a nanosecond…s
Seemed a little surreal or over the top? Well seems it was; m’kay…”The fringe sites” are playing us…with over sensationalized story’s.
December 8th, 2008 at 12:52 am
MAYBE,
the persons in Ohio which the SWAT and Department of Agriculture
were hunting for SPAM supplies to ‘bailout’ the US car industry!
After all, the economy just dosent run on only peanuts
Maybe they could stock coat hangers, you can do with TOO many coat hangers!
December 8th, 2008 at 1:40 am
GET an EXCELLENT LAWYER & sue the CRAP out of them
December 8th, 2008 at 7:28 am
Ok you got me interested #165 what are tesla coils and how do i make one?
December 8th, 2008 at 8:36 am
Number 173: The tesla coil he is talking about is from command and conquer – a real-time strategy game. Look up Red Alert 3 and Tesla Coil. It fires a bolt of electricity.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:40 am
I got very worked up over this and posted it on few other boards. Seems a bit over the top?Guess what : This “story” never happened. read comments reply#12 of the original art.I posted yesterdaybut guess I hit the censor. The fringe sites are jerking our chains….
December 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
TO Andrew J,
The Tesla Coil is not FROM Command and Conquer, although it is in the game it comes from Nicholi Tesla, do some damn research!! Tesla had alot of ideas that are just now being put to use. He was named the father of physics! He invented the radio, the ac motor and the ac electric system, the remote control and alot of other things you use today. They called him the mad scientist because he thought he could control people’s minds through radio waves as well. The Haarp project wouldn’t have been possible without Tesla’s ideas. If you didn’t know any of this, you should get of the video games and use that computer for something useful!!!!
December 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
“ALSO, THERE IS NO LORAIN OHIO SHERIFFS OFFICE, IT’S THE CUYAHOGA COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE OUT OF CLEVELAND.”
OK this is nonsense I live in the last house from the border of Cuyhoga and Lorain county
LORAIN COUNTY HAS ITS OWN SHERRIFFS DEPT! it is a large rural county.It has nothing to do with Cuyahoga Sherriffs dept.Itbhas its own county jail also,cuyahoga/s is down town cleveland
Lorians is about 25miles away in rural countryside.so people please do not bother Cuyahoga county about this case it has no relation to it.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
This is another “version” of the story. It was written siting BLOGGERS as a primary resource.
I just cannot beleive it is so hard to get to the truth. Aliens landing in Hollywood would have more acceptance and coverage than a story like tis.
To think NO ONE, NOT A SINGLE SOUL, NOT ONE WITNES or FAMILY MEMEBR of those arrested will come forward to sound the truth!!!!!!!!
Either something is hidden by the family or the law .. BUT SOMEONE IS HIDING SOMETHING !!!!
And the sad this is this type of bullshit is being used to rile the restless sould who want something they are not sure of in society.
KEEP IN MIND THIS SITE IS NOT THE GOSPEL and the author may have had “his version” of what happened.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.co.....hp?t=39147
Thois may have been a local incident.. but something on this scale..if it violated this family’s Guarnateed Rights, it should be on the news. If not… The situation is obvious.. we are only allowed the information that the powers to be want us to know.
“Inevitable.
What’s happening now is precisely what the Founding Fathers were so eager to prevent.
It’s not that any one person is plotting tyranny- but when the concentration of power reaches critical mass, ordinary public servants mutate into tyrants, and we are seeing this at all levels.
The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” — Thomas Paine
December 8th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Google TESLA COIL on google,you will find alot of people making some reall big coils that throw streamers 9 and 10 feet.
December 8th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Test market see who all are zombies and won’t do or say a thing. The American public fell asleep longago.
December 8th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Those who stand for nothing – Will fall for anything
December 8th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
To 182 Zilog – What will be your source of power? Your own generator?
The power company can shut your ass down in a heartbeat otherwise or they will simply blow/shoot your coil up.. Game over.
Don’t be so amazed by the simple things that look good.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Deer season ends soon.
Get ready for black coat season!
(if u cant get a gun, make another weopen to get one.) Print accurate maps and info about area now! GET SOme SURVIVAL GEAR LIKE SHOVELS<KNIFE<GUNS&AMMO<ETC AND FOOD& A SOURCE OF WATER!
December 9th, 2008 at 2:29 am
IF THIS EVER HAPPENS TO ME, THEY WILL BE OPPOSED, PERIOD! AND THEY WILL BE SUED TO THE MAX, where is the outrage from this family, are they a bunch of wimps? GO AND GET YOUR TEN GRAND OF STUFF THE BASTARDS STOLE, and do it with zeal! FORGIVE YOUR ENEMIES?! are we forgiving our enemies IN IRAQ or are we bombing them to death? HOW ABOUT SOME FOLKS STORM a crooked senators house, and take 10 grand? you can bet it will make the news then! we are toast here, GET READY, see the riots IN GREECE, we are next. dino.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:28 am
WASHINGTON – The three major U.S auto manufacturers are begging Congress for a $25 billion government rescue, while the legislation clings to life support in Congress and top lawmakers and the White House suffer from bailout fatigue.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:57 am
kill them. These are not officers of the law, they are crimminals.
…mad dogs need to be put down.
December 9th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Winter clothing blocks Taser
Dec 09, 2008 – 04:05:27 CST
FARGO (AP) – Fargo police say an attempt to subdue a man with a Taser failed because he was bundled up for the cold. Police say the man then took the stun gun from the officer.
Police say the man’s winter clothing shielded him from getting stunned, after an attempt to arrest him for being disorderly at a Fargo hospital.
Police say the man was arrested with the help of hospital security. Police say the man is facing charges of attempted assault on a police officer.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Patriot…. I am not sure of where you get your information about me..
But I have served my country for 24 years and my Patriotism is beyond reproach. I love this country a in spite of people like you.
I simply like dealing with the truth.. I don’t jump through my ass running around yelling “hang somebody” like many do on here. If I did so I would be like the “jack booted thugs” taht did this to these people. I took the time to research this stopry to the best of my ability. I ACTUALLY LOOKED FGR INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE CLAIN and psoetd a further reference. DID YOU? HELL NO !!!!!! I made the effort to provide information to futher get to the truth.
I don’t just used a web name “patriot” I AM ONE ….But my idea of a patriot is not some joker with a lynch mob mentality as you seem to be.
If it came down to a tight situation and I knew you personaly as you seem to be on here I would help you. You are your own worst enemy and people like you who make false claims about people you don’t know are what I hate. I would never help sopmeone with your narrow mindset. Sooner or later if given the chance you would screw me over as well.
Until then.. I would not be speaking or typing things about people unless you were sure.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:38 am
how many police officers does it take to pull over a truck towing a trailer? three. one in each patrol car. saw that on my way home yesterday.
December 10th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
The worst tyranny is punks with guns. Always have to prove how scared they are.
December 10th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Were these really Americans or were they UN troops in disguise? I cannot BELIEVE any American would raid a family’s food supply.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
This sorta thuggery will get much worse until the tribes big gorillas stand up with a pair and put those transgressors in the ground.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Ignore the cointelpro agitators, people. They’re here to divide us and cause one to make emotional statements that one may soon regret. state your position(s) calmly and rationally, and for your own sake, and the sake of your families, make no ACTIONABLE statements
December 10th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
hey people – #197 Jarhead is right but……….
how do you really want things to be? do you want to give it back to them or do you want to keep taking it from these fuckers?
do you want fellowship? it is starting and both styles of N/C are welcome. step up or shut up!
if you want to talk about change stay here and bitch and intellectualize – there are plenty who will join you and that is fine i guess – to each has their own beliefs.
its a hell of alot easier to weed out the long winded losers who talk tons of shit about everything yet do nothing than it is to find people of change.
if you really want to make certain changes a reality – hit me up, our future is connected one way or another.
a.patriot2008@gmail.com
the restoration moves forward with your help
not to be confused with #191 – no disrespect – just stating the fact
December 10th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
In regard to 197 Jarheadontforget -
Perhaps Jarhead can coorect me but if I think along the same lines “anything you type one here can possibly come back to haunt you” if you make a threat that can be offered up in a US court of such a level as we have now. Anything goes in court if it fits a certaina agenda.
I personally would never threaten or harm anyone unless I was in a situation of life and death and I was not breaking any laws.
\I hope it never comes to that because I recognize the law as the Consitution first and all law conforming withing the bounds of the Constitution. I would hope and I assume the powers of GVT also respect that document.
I cannot explain it any other way being a Veteran .. I only know I took an oath. If that is to be my end.. I accept that and will have to do what is necessary to protect that oath as I would hope all other who took such an oath would do.
I do not depend on anyone who has not served in the military do so such.. for they have taken no oath and I have no doubts they will not answer the call isf it becomes inconveinient.
December 10th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
We are all talking after the fact. In the meantime.. This family has been done in.. No one to my knowledge has shown up to support them….
So when will we get together and start this thing?
They are left to be sacrificed to the GVT.
December 11th, 2008 at 10:04 am
The Nazi party is alive and well in Ohio.
A word of warning…. don’t try this at (my) home) . I bite
December 11th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
we must all have what they refer to as an oppositional disorder to authority now a mental illness.
December 15th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
james: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S.....9540611749
Understanding the unique phenomenon of Palestinian refugees, however, requires first understanding just how anomalous the institution designed to assist them is.
UNRWA WAS established by General Assembly Resolution 302 in December 1949. From the outset, the agency had an extraordinary degree of autonomy, largely due to pressure from the UN’s Arab bloc. It was thus free to set its own definitions and guidelines – which were markedly different from those of UNHCR.
For example, UNRWA defines Palestinian refugees as “persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict.”
By contrast, the UNHCR definition – recognized as the international norm – describes a refugee as someone who “is outside his/her country of nationality or habitual residence; has well-founded fear of persecution because of his/her race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion; and is unable or unwilling to avail himself/herself of the protection of that country, or to return there, for fear of persecution.”
By emphasizing “country of nationality or habitual residence,” UNHCR clearly intends to exclude the transients embraced by UNRWA’s definition – people who had only recently arrived in Palestine from neighboring Arab countries in search of work. Moreover, while UNHCR seeks to prevent expansion of its definition in ways that would encourage its improper use for political ends, UNRWA has done just the opposite: Not only has it declined to remove the status of refugee from people who no longer fit the original description, such as the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians granted full citizenship by Jordan, but it indefinitely confers refugee status on refugees’ descendants.
By expanding its already problematic refugee definition, UNRWA guarantees that the problem will remain ever-growing, and thus ever-worsening. For some Arab leaders this may be precisely the aim: So long as the Palestinian refugee problem is visible and acute, Israel remains a convenient scapegoat on which the region’s ills can be blamed.
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:30 am
Hey Jasmie,
Blow it out your ass
January 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 am
When are all of you so called men going to grow some 1776 gutts!? To the men in my family: when I am buried you will remember every single time I came to you and told you about the New Roman World Order – you laughed at me and did NOTHING. You are ALL cowards, may your chains give you comfort!
This crap isn’t going to happen in MY State/backyard any longer. 1. ALL lawyers shall be shot. 2. ALL bankers (not bank tellers) shall be shot. 3. ALL government employees shall be shot. 4. WHEN THE UNIFORMS STOP COMING, THEN YOU WILL BE FREE!
How do you find agents of the State? Public records…. they own property too. Use binoculars to see the last names on the badges of the Red coat traitors (Police Officers), look through old newspaper stories for their names, look them up on the city govt. police websites. They are easy to find…. when you do decide to kill them…. do it when they are coming outside their homes…. let their families see how a traitor should die!
January 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 am
I made a threat towards ALL government employees, lawyers, and bankers…. The System. Come and get me traitors, because if you don’t…. I’m coming to get you soon enough. Our numbers are growing daily, you can’t stop us. The scriptures says “hate is of the devil,” but I don’t hate any of you – I just want all of you dead. This has nothing to do with love or hate – just survival.
January 26th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
feds raided my home , but they didn’t find anything becuase I hide my food and guns outside of my home.
January 26th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
some of us are legally denied weapons. we are supposed to wait till they take us to the ovens? all you got to do is use their own laws against them, the drug laws mean you can buy unregistered weapons on the street.