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Police will use new device to take fingerprints in street
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Owen Bowcott
Guardian
October 27, 2008
Every police force in the UK is to be equipped with mobile fingerprint scanners – handheld devices that allow police to carry out identity checks on people in the street.
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The new technology, which ultimately may be able to receive pictures of suspects, is likely to be in widespread use within 18 months. Tens of thousands of sets – as compact as BlackBerry smartphones – are expected to be distributed.
The police claim the scheme, called Project Midas, will transform the speed of criminal investigations. A similar, heavier machine has been tested during limited trials with motorway patrols.
To address fears about mass surveillance and random searches, the police insist fingerprints taken by the scanners will not be stored or added to databases.
Liberty, the civil rights group, cautioned that the law required fingerprints taken in such circumstances to be deleted after use. Gareth Crossman, Liberty’s policy director, said: “Saving time with new technology could help police performance but officers must make absolutely certain that they take fingerprints only when they suspect an individual of an offence and can’t establish his identity.”
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October 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
It’s not that people are blind or asleep…it’s more like there afraid! Jesus said: “Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.” (Luke 17:33)
When you try to tell people what is really going on….they get scared! That fear is what they are not facing….that fear is what is holding them back. They are afraid of losing their lives. They are afraid of facing the possibilities of being homeless of eating out of a garbage can. This is why most people will “DO ANYTHING” to make it. This is why Esau sold his birthrights to Jacob.
Hey PEOPLE, stop being so damn afraid….UNITED WE STAND. Together we can make but apart from each other “they” WILL devour us!
October 27th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
It is possible that they will use this same device to check RFID tags.
October 27th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
I have a good solution for mobile fingerprint scanners. When the officer walks over to you and requests you submit your finger, GRAB THE MACHINE AND BEAT HIM OVER THE F**KING HEAD WITH IT!
October 27th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
sad…were are the people!!!!
October 27th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
#1 THAT S WHY THEY ARE TRYING TO TURN EVERYONE AGAINST EACH OTHER, MAN EAT MAN WORLD, SOCIETY HAS CHANGE SOO MUCH THEN THE 50′S FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE WHOLE BLOCK, COMMUNITY KNEW EACH OTHER AND USE TO HANG OUT….. AND SO ON..
October 27th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I saw this fricken device on cops the other day. Wasn’t a new episode either. Maybe the people at cops can film the future? Bad boys, bad boys. Whatch ya gonna do when they time travel for you?
October 27th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
‘but officers must make absolutely certain that they take fingerprints only when they suspect an individual of an offence and can’t establish his identity’.
If (when) I am asked for fingerprint identification I will want to know WHAT crime I am suspected of perpetrating.
October 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
wow… i seen the police using this device out side my home one night in Ontario California… they had two gang members sitting on the cure and the officer took both their fingerprints… i was amazed at the technology…
October 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Hey #1 great quote from Jesus. Fight for our freedoms even if we die in the process, better than lickin’ a bankster’s shoe for the rest of your live’s.
October 27th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
They’ve gone mental with their devises. Not only fingerprint-scanning people, but loads of countries in Europe are at readiness to chip their foods – for tracking purposes, of course. How can we be sure that those fingerprints are then deleted from their f***ing machines/systems? Do they take us for idiots?!
October 27th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
There is no authority unless ordained of G-d. It is he who brings a nation to its knees, or raises a nation to its feet. If we continue to disregard Him, he will get our attention one way or another even if it means using our own Government to track our every move to keep our conscience in check before we decide to go along commit to sin/transgression.
References:
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Romans 13:1
Jeremiah 18.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
M UK. Sadly they do take us for idiots.
October 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
One more thing… a W A R N I N G really… to those of us who are thinking of taking up arms to fight the government:
In doing so, keep in mind, we are kicking against G-d’s discipline. If we want the United States constitution back and Ron Paul as President (I know I do!), than this war is fought on our knees and returning to the godly principles we used to live by.
For we have written:
“One nation under…” who?
Think about before we risk our family, friends, and ourselves.
Wake up!
October 27th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
problem = the world
solution = jesus christ
October 27th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Common Sense, you don’t have any.
Stick your boot licking views up your butt.
While I am all for Ron Paul, he will never be President; and as for your God, keep em for yourself.
People have been slaves long enough and your God would keep them in chains eternally.
These people won’t be swayed with your banners and signs, nor with soft spoken voices.
There is only one way to get this planet back on track.
” Guess”.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
this is of no shock to me i kinda thought this would already be in place by now …time to burn off all my fingerprints with acid …fuckin NWO
craig motyka
cmotyka03@gmail.com
6099779190
October 27th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
[QUOTE]“One more thing… a W A R N I N G really… to those of us who are thinking of taking up arms to fight the government:
In doing so, keep in mind, we are kicking against G-d’s discipline.”[QUOTE]
That is not true. That is a lie that people tell you to get you to submit to them. IN OUR COUNTRY (THE U.S.A.), WE (THE U.S. CITIZENS) ARE THE GOVERNMENT. That’s right, the U.S. citizen. We, in the constitution, are told that we have inalienable rights. That means rights that no government can take away. One of those rights is to overthrow the government when it becomes tyrannical. GOD GAVE US THAT RIGHT. The only way that right can be removed from us is if we neglect our responsibilities to hold our government in fear of death, which we so far have.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
This is worrisome.
Rhonda
October 27th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
This is obviously function creep.
http://thesamovar.wordpress.co.....in-london/
There’s no need to hold the data because the national id card is slated for 2010 and everyone’s biometrics including fingerprints will be on the national database already. Of course you won’t need to carry the card as they say because then they can simply scan your fingerprint to match up to that already held when stopped for whatever reason.
Total control. Total enslavement. Totalitarianism.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
What do the bikers have to say about their erosion of constitutional rights? How about a ride on Washington? I mean a REAL ride…
Enough is enough already…
October 27th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
What do the bikers have to say about their erosion of constitutional rights? How about a ride on Washington? I mean a REAL ride…
Enough is enough already…
October 27th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
And project ‘Midas’? Are they taking the piss? When you touch this it’s gold for them and SHIT for YOU!!!!
October 27th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
And project ‘MIDAS’? Are they taking the piss? When you touch this fucker it’ll be gold for them and SHIT for YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Very good, at least I know they are still moving forward with their plans, and very smart at that. First try the system in england, just like the cameras, see how it works, get the bugs out, then bring it here.
We will see them soon on our streets, and they will build a bigger database. Only a matter of time.
Now people will sit and say the constitution is the rule of law, and it is not so anymore, because our elected officials took that away from us, and gues what we voted them in and gave them our trust for a very long time. We are fucked at this point and what we need to work on is getting our rights back, but that will take time.
Oh we are so screwed, but the NWo moves one step at a time, and does so well at it.
October 27th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I ONLY HAVE ONE FINGER FOR THE COP WITH THIS MACHINE AND IT ANIT TOUCHIN NO SCANNER!! …. wouldnt be the first time …probably wont be the last
October 27th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
It ain’t God’s f***ing government at work here. Unless you’re ready to believe that all wars are justified as long as you do it in God’s name! Leave the poor guy out of this. I haven’t need to wake up to my sins!!!! Time we woke up to reality, though, and took back responsibility for ourselves.
#26: I like your attitude.
I might just have to go to London this week/wknd to see what the hell is going on.
October 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I love what # 26 said
_,!,, < Look the middle finger
October 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
And we are suppose to believe them when they say they (fingerprints) won’t be stored in a database somewhere? Give me a break. I have learned that when their lips are moving, they are lying. I have become very cynical and non-trusting in so many things and I do not like it. I use to believe our leaders really cared about us but boy, have I had a rude awakening. Nothing is ever as it appears to be.
October 28th, 2008 at 5:54 am
this is getting way out of hand
October 28th, 2008 at 6:09 am
well 1984 is nearing folks for us fellow citizens in the UK once they have these machines it will only give them a bigger ego to intimidate and bully law abiding folk … here the deal right in our so called freedom ’s you go out for a few pints is it not yea so ya have maybe more pints having a good time if ya can in gloom Britain then ya say goodbye to friends walk home or stagger <which is in your rights!!! then my b lobby bobby comes over with his fingerprint device and starts putting words in ya mouth !! oh sir i do believe you are drunk yea so im going home officer oh can i take name address no i don’t need to like i said im just going home ..right so your refusing to give me ya name address and unwilling to take the finger print scanner… oh do you work yes …….right heres to the point folks as soon as you tell them that theve got ya cos it revenue for the system now what ever you want to call it ……..now if ya went employed they would leave you alone see thats the system here in the UK………. any comments police officer come on …………
October 28th, 2008 at 6:34 am
I WILL NOT comply…. period! Try and force and see where you end up.
October 28th, 2008 at 7:53 am
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Make a wise decision at the voting booths!
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October 28th, 2008 at 10:14 am
The scary part is how most people will see this as a good thing!
October 28th, 2008 at 10:30 am
I agree with you #34! People think it’s done to PROTECT them from the evil (whatever that might mean to them). Sadly people don’t see how degrading and invasive the ‘protection’ procedures are getting.
We can all do our bit of info sharing… I’m talking to my child about the REAL world as it is – not as is seen through main media and soap operas.
Many aren’t ready to hear about it yet, but will blame us for not telling them when it’s too late. Maybe I’ll just send friends and family links to these websites…. = )
October 28th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Maybe everyone should turn themselves in now for things that we will be accused of later.
October 28th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Just please ask every one you know why it is the police find it necessary to say,
“To address fears about mass surveillance and random searches, the police insist fingerprints taken by the scanners will not be stored or added to databases.”
Meaning of course, they will be using the system to store and search databases. Or not.. .STUPID!
My bad sorry everyone. Why is it a lot of people come here and blast others or call them names?
It is surely conterproductive. Umm Man I think we have all been programed “negative” primarily due to our ingested toxins no doubt.
What are WE to do brothers and sisters of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA?
Stop drinking any non-filtered water. (Why do I still drink it?) Shit. Ohhhh noo Aspartame oh shit!!
Oh Shit I digress. .. Sorry thank you for your time.
LOOK OUT MAN!
peace
October 28th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Look if you have not done anything wrong then the police won’t ask you to put your finger in this machine. Frankly anyone who objects to these machines is clearly a terrorist and should be locked up. If we were tougher on terrorists in the first place then a simple ID scan would have shown they intended to blow up planes and trains. It’s our liberal wishy washy attitude in this country. Really the police are being too soft on people. A quick phone call should be all it needs for them to have someone shot. Then another phonecall to the family to tell them where to collect the body. Obviously there are some health and safety issues that need to be addressed, but the human rights act should be abolished. Then lets see who still drops litter!
October 28th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
UK has become insane. What are people waiting for? This is madness
October 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
What do we do #37? I mean shit…
October 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I live in the uk, and to be honest with you most people here do not protest about anything, all they want is to watch the soaps on tv…Yes take away the tv and they would go crazy then…Very mind controlled race over here i am afraid..
October 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
This Post might be off topic, but it concerns the massive theft going on right now of your
wealth, via the bank Bailout. Consider these ideas:
I lived in California from 2003 to mid 2005. I was amazed at how high real estate was getting. For example, a small nice home in Austin might go for between, say $100,000 to $150,000, whereas in California it would be from $400,000 to $700,000. And if it were in a more desirable area, even more, of the order $900,000 and up.
I would deal with the general public, there, and found out that they were not generally very rich, yet loans were offered with terms such as zero down, and very low [to start] teaser interest rates. I knew that this real estate bubble was a house of cards
I thought to myself how can all these professional bankers be this stupid, loaning money that they will probably never get back? Why would they do this? This was only answered later, that I will reveal here, down below.
To recap, I knew that the California Real Estate Market was a house of cards, that as soon as Interest Rates rose significantly, and other costs rose, then this house of cards would tumble.
[Note: A Put option is a contract that allows one to sell 100 shares of stock for a specified strike price, for a given period of time. For example, on the stock of the Airline Builder Boeing, trading at say $100 per share, a December 2008 Put Option with a $100 strike price might be trading at $4 {this is quoted on a per share basis} or $400 for one contract that gives you the right to sell 100 shares of Boeing for $100 dollars per share from now {October 28 to December 20, 2008} until expiration. If in a month or so the Shares plunge to $80 per share on Boeing, then this put option would be worth about $2,300 [Intrinsically it is worth $2,000 [100-80]*100 Shares, the additional value is time value.
In the [b]James Bond Movie “Casino Royale”[/b] 2006, Mr. Evil Le Cheffe {It means Cypher, or is it Lou-Cypher (Lucifer?). Is this a hint back to the Satanic Elite, or the rigged Casino for the Royals?}receives $100 Million Dollars Cash from some Africans for the purchase of weapons. Le Cheffe takes the money, and instead of first buying the weapons for the Africans, he buys $100 Million Dollars of Put options in an Airplane Manufacterer. From the movie, it seems that he buys the short term contracts that are out of the money, so he gets more “Bang for the Buck,” if the Stock were trading at,say $120 per share, and he buys contracts good for one month with a $100 strike price, these would sell for probably $25 per contract. His $100 Million would buy 4 million contracts. These contracts will expire worthless, if in the next 30 days the Company never trades below $100 [the Strike price] per share. Mr. Evil Le Cheffe, in the Movie plans to cause this stock to plunge. He sends his agent to destroy their New Prototype JetPlane, this would send the stock plunging, from $120 to maybe $80 per share or lower. Mr. Le Cheffe’s 4 million puts [that he bought for $25 each] would be worth $2,000 {[100 Strike Price-80 Stock Price]*100 Shares} per contract, or $8 Billion Dollars!!! We know James Bond stops him, but the movie sets the scheme for what is happening now with all the bad mortgage loans. Create massive quantities of bad Mortgage Loans, have compromised rating agenies rate them as triple A [were the raters photographed with the DC Madame's hookers, and blackmailed in doing what the elite needed doing? Is this one reason why Deborah Jeane Palfrey was killed, since too many of these threads would reveal this scheme?], bundle them and sell them off to unsuspecting fools [Merrill {got}Lynch{ed}] and other banks, and buy Credit Default Swaps on all this Garbage. The timer has been set for this junk to explode and the Swaps to go from $20 each to $1,000 each. Trillions will be needed to pay off the lucky [they created their own disaster like Le Cheffe wanted to do] holders of the swaps. The new Billionaires created out of this created disaster need to be brought to justice. Who are the owners of the Credit Default Swaps?
As this manufactured crisis grew Treasury Secretary Paulsen pleaded for his $700 Billion Bailout. When Congress voted no, the stock market, curiously plunged -777.68 points down DJIA. This would scare the Senate into passing it and Congress later. When you go to a Casino and hit the Jackpot you get “7″ s or 7,7,7; but remember there was one more “7″, the $700 Billion Bailout. This is another example of the market being rigged, with codes for those in the know. One year after 9.11.01 on 9.11.02 the S&P 500 closed at 911; was this another one of their codes revealing an elite connection?
October 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
The Anglo-Saxon world leads the way in this totalitarian madness, followed by France and the rest of the EU. It is a symptom of the decline and fall of Western Civilization. The EU itself is a symptom of this degeneration. I guess the “European (White) Man’s” splendour ends in much the same way it started – The Inquisiton. Some things never change.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
#38, I hope they drop the litter in your fucking yard.
You are just what the NWO is looking for. Why don’t you just go fuck yourself.
You are obviously already a serf, so go on and get off this site.
You’re just a spy for the NWO and I say FUCK YOU!!!!!
Come to Texas for you ass whoopin’, you miserable piece of shit.
The only Terrorist in the USA are the elcted officials in DC.
I’m really looking forward to taking up arms and setting them straight about what WE THE PEOPLE really means.
October 29th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Shitheads like Wayland (38) are the ones who drag us all into this bizzarro-land.
Just look at what this idiotic moron wrote: “Look if you have not done anything wrong then the police won’t ask you to put your finger in this machine. Frankly anyone who objects to these machines is clearly a terrorist and should be locked up.”
His pollyanna view leads him to believe that the state works like clockwork and the state only fucks up the lives of those who “deserve” it. The freedom paradigm we yearn for is all rocket science to ppl like this fucktard wayland.
October 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Like I have always said; the new world antichrist order is about 3 years ahead in their dominance in England compared to the United States!! Why!!?? 2 reasons!! We have more Christians and we have the Constitution of the United States!! And the 3rd forgotten reason is; England has always been under the rule of their wicked kings and queens and their luciferic churches who are losing ground fast to the muslims and the witches and the luciferians who rule all of Europe!! So they have very little light of Christ in their national culture!! But don’t worry!! We will be joining you very soon!! Especially when they push their BEAST CHIP AGENDA ON THE WHOLE WORLD WITH AMERICA BEING THEIR PRIMARY RECIPIENT!! But don’t worry!! THE GREAT GOD OF HEAVEN WILL HAVE ALL THE WICKED KINGS OF EUROPE AND ALL OF THEIR ECCLESIASTICAL POWERS!! AND ALL OF THE WICKED PRESIDENTS AND CONGRESSPEOPLE AND ALL THE SENATORS AND SUPREME COURT JUDGES AND ALL THOSE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WHO will willingly accept the antichrist BEAST CHIP IN THE GREAT LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE!! As they will be yelling and screaming their heads off in the greatest agonies imaginable
!!!
October 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
this whole thing is getting worse, britain is obviously fucked.
my friends dad is a biochemist for a pharmaceutical company that works with the UK and he was telling us that the UK is fucked up, the chemical designs that he had to put together were very very shady, stuff like depression medication and new chemicals for riot police.
fortunately, America is very different from the UK, the state of Michigan has more guns owned by people than the US military. you also forget that our armed forces duty is to the constitution and our freedoms above everything else, when this economic crisis ravages our country entirely, this country will be very, VERY hard to control. gangs and militias will be up in arms, and they wont go down easy at all. so don’t frustrate yourself with the details, relax and enjoy the country while we are still able to, if those fuckers in the government want a war with the people, they’re gonna get one sooner or later, and when that happens, you can bet your ass im gonna join the fight.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
another thing to consider is that the government will be trying to take over the cities first, they absolutely hate forests, thats why they turned them into state and national parks, to control them better and to close them off between those god damned suburbs. if they try taking the cities first the resistance from gangs will be absolutely brutal, the people in the countryside will get ready while the dumbasses in the cities get hit first. when they and if they take the cities, the resistance forming in the countrysides will have food that they can grow and hunt, and hey will be well equipped to fight, using guerrilla tactics, the army of the government will fail to contain everyone, and hopefully liberation will be obtained.
November 1st, 2008 at 1:50 am
the uk is dead its full of mulims, immigrants, jobsworths and the pc brigade, chavs, gangs, single parent familys,and man utd fans.god help us
November 1st, 2008 at 5:47 am
Weyland (38) why don’t you do some homework / research. Whilst your at it, why don’t you willingly have a microchip put in your arm which controls all your personal and financial information and is stored on a huge government database that you cannot access. Why don’t you go and look up something on the internet only to find it is blocked by government censors. Why don’t you pay your taxes whilst taking it up the ass from the shitty New World Order. You can do all these things if you like or you can wake up…
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 am
#49: Which one are you???? I fit in one of those myself (2 at a squeeze)…. lol
I do think that sometimes people only have to look at these policemen the wrong way, and they’re suspects…. Could easily be asked to stick your finger in the machine. Ain’t going to be easy to refuse when they gang up on you… Admittedly, not all of them are on reactive high-alert. Some are still slightly human.
Has anyone had any experience of this machine yet???
November 6th, 2008 at 3:46 am
FINGERMEN
November 16th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Do you really think they are going to delete them later???
They’ll store them for later use (of course against you) and I guess some idiot is going to loose the CD’s with thousands of them (or leave them on a train), it happened before (benefit receivers CD’s & I think it was the royal army members database or something similar)! Oh I am terribly sorry, just lost your identities. Well, lets start over.