Objections Raised to the Meaning of Silverstein's Comments
Listen again to Larry Silverstein's comments on the PBS documentary.
Michael Kane's comments appeared on Jeff Rense's website at http://www.rense.com.
He writes...
"I've said it once before, and I'll say it again, someone MUST call Larry Silverstein and get an official comment on this because LARRY DOES NOT SAY THAT WTC 7 WAS DEMOLISHED, OR "PULLED", ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001.
What he says is that they made the DECISION to "pull" (meaning demolish) WTC 7 and SHORTLY AFTER THEY MADE THAT DECISION, Larry Silverstein says "they watched the building COLLAPSE.
Regardless of what really happened, what this man said does NOT say that the building was demolished.
He clearly says "the decision was made to pull" and then he says,
"and we watched the building collapse"
The connotation is that they were going to demolish it anyway, but golly-gee-wiz the building collapsed right when they made that decision so they DID NOT actually go through with the demolition.
So, when Jeremy Baker said in his article:
"Mr. Silverstein's comments imply that he and the FDNY threw together an expert demolition job in the space of a few short hours on the afternoon of 9/11"
This is not correct, Silverstein was very careful to NOT imply this in the way he worded what he said.
Silverstein's statement does not imply that was done - it is impossible to do that anyway and Silverstein did not walk into a trap like that; he covered his ass with the way in which he worded what he said.
I don't have time for this now, but I hope someone out there does (hopefully Jeremy Baker can do this to properly follow-up on his first piece, which was otherwise quite good)
CALL LARRY SILVERSTEIN,
GET HIM OR HIS PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON THIS
GET THE FDNY TO COMMENT ON THIS
That's what must happen. The above article by Jeremy Baker makes assumptions off of a statement which, in a court of law, can be defended the way I just interrupted above.
I guarantee when someone calls Mr. Silverstein he is going to say EXACTLY what I said above because it makes sense and still jives with the official story. Whoever calls and asks this should very thoroughly consider what their FOLLOW-UP questions will be because that is where we may get good information.
I applaud Jeremy Baker for writing a piece to scrutinize the Achilles heal of 9-11, but he (or someone) must follow up properly with calls to Larry Silverstein and whoever the head of FDNY was that day who he spoke to and clarify this. Without doing so, we will make no further progress."
My response....
Even if this is true and Silverstein meant that they were going to pull the building but it collapsed before they had the chance, there are still inconsistencies.
Whether he is saying they DID pull the building or merely INTENDED to pull the building, the questions remain the same.
Why would they even be considering pulling the building when it only had two small pockets of fire visible?
How could they safely and successfully demolish the building that day when it would take at least a few days to rig the explosives in a 47 story building?
Is Silverstein merely trying to cover his tracks by recognizing the demolition possibility while still claiming the collapse was natural? This would give him more credibility rather than if he just ignored all the questions about demolition altogether.
What remains clear is that THE BUILDING WAS DESTROYED BY EXPLOSIVES WITHIN THE BUILDING. There is no other explanation for its sudden, perfect, symmetrical fall.
Furthermore, go back to the top of the page and watch the video clip again. Silverstein's body language clearly indicates that they regrettably (sic) had to pull the building, NOT that they considered pulling it.
The bottom line is that Silverstein made $500 million as a result of the collapse. The building would not have collapsed on its own and the only reason that they would make the DECISION to destroy the building would not be to 'save lives' as Silverstein claimed, but to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the insurance.
Evidence of Explosives Used in the Twin Towers
The Firefighters' Tapes: Tapes reveal that fires were under control not raging infernos
The audio presented here is a recording of the firefighter's tapes on September 11th that have been released publically. A lot of the portions of the tapes have been classified. This portion lasts an hour and thirteen minutes, we have highlighted the interesting parts below with full transcripts. According to the Port Authority, this recording covers approximately 8:45 to 9:58 AM Eastern.
Open the following link and it should play in your media player.
911 Firefighter's tape
Now wait til it downloads and skip through to 39:00 and begin listening to the following:
9:25 a.m.
Ladder 15: "Go ahead, Irons."
Ladder 15 Irons: "Just got a report from the director of Morgan Stanley. Seventy-eight seems to have taken the brunt of this stuff, there's a lot of bodies, they say the stairway is clear all the way up, though."
Ladder 15: "Alright, ten-four Scott. What, what floor are you on?"
Ladder 15 Irons: "Forty-eight right now."
Ladder 15: "Alright, we're coming up behind you."
Now skip another six minutes to 45:52 and listen:
9:31 a.m.
Battalion Seven Aide: "Battalion Seven, you want me to relay?"
Ladder 15: "Yeah, Steve tell Chief Palmer they got reports that there's more planes in the area, we may have to back down here."
Battalion Seven Aide: "Ten-four."
"Seven Alpha to Seven."
Battalion Seven: "Steve. Seven to Seven Alpha."
Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof."
"Fifteen Roof."
Ladder 15: "We got reports of another incoming plane. We may have to take cover. Stay in the stairwell."
Ladder 15 Roof: "Ten-four."
Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof. That plane's ours. I repeat. It's ours. What floor are you on, Scotty?"
Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifty-four."
Ladder 15: "Alright. Keep making your way up. We're behind you."
Ladder 15 Roof: "Ten-four."
The officers then describe where they are headed, where they believe the fires to be...
Now skip to 54:02...
9:37 a.m.
Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Tommy, listen carefully. I'm sending all the injured down to you on 40. You're going to have to get'em down to the elevator. There's about 10 to 15 people coming down to you."
Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Okay."
Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Ten civilians coming down. Fifteen to OV."
Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Got that, I'm on 40 right now, Lieu."
9:39 a.m.
Ladder 15 Lieutenant: "Alright Tommy, when you take people down to the lobby, try to get an EMS crew back."
Ladder 15 Firefighter: "Definitely."
Now skip to 57:20...
9:43 a.m.
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15 Roof, what's your progress?"
Ladder 15 Roof: "Sixty-three, Battalion."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four."
Battaltion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Go ahead Battaltion Nine."
Battalion Nine Chief: "Orio, I couldn't find a bank to bring you up any highter. I'm on the 40th floor, what can I do for you?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "We're going to have to hoof it. I'm on 69 now, but we need a higher bank, kay."
Battalion Nine Chief: "What stairway you in Orio?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "The center of the building, boy, boy."
"Tac One to Tac One Alpha."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15 Roof, what floor?"
Battalion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "...Battalion Nine."
Battalion Nine Chief: "Orio, I'm going to try and get a couple of CFRD engines on the 40th floor so send any victims down here, I'll start up a staging area."
Battalion Seven Chief: "...find a fireman service elevator close to 40, if we get some more cars in that bank, we'll be alright."
Now skip to 01:02:40. This is where the fires are discovered and described as "two isolated pockets"
9:48 a.m.
Ladder 15: "Battalion Fifteen to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven: "Go Ladder 15."
Ladder 15: "What do you got up there, Chief?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm still in boy stair 74th floor. No smoke or fire problems, walls are breached, so be careful."
Ladder 15: "Yeah Ten-Four, I saw that on 68. Alright, we're on 71 we're coming up behind you."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four. Six more to go."
Ladder 15: "Let me know when you see more fire."
Battalion Seven Chief: "I found a marshall on 75."
9:49 a.m.
Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 OV. Fifteen to 15 OV.
"Fifteen OV."
Ladder 15: "Tommy, have you made it back down to the lobbby yet?"
Ladder 15 OV: "The elevator's screwed up."
Ladder 15: "You can't move it?"
Ladder 15 OV: "I don't want to get stuck in the shaft."
9:50 a.m.
Ladder 15: "Alright Tommy. It's imperative that you go down to the lobby command post and get some people up to 40. We got injured people up here on 70. If you make it to the lobby command post see if they can somehow get elevators past the 40th floor. We got people injured all the way up here."
Battalion Seven Aide: "Battaltion Seven Alpha to Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Go Steve."
Battalion Seven Aide: "Yeah Chief, I'm on 55, I got to rest. I'll try to get up there as soon as possible."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four."
9:50 a.m.
"Anybody see the highway one car? Highway one car we need it for an escort to the hospital for a fireman."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15."
"15 Irons."
Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof and Irons."
Battalion Six Chief: "Battalion Six to command post."
9:52 a.m.
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha."
"Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."
Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?"
Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post."
Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15."
Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower."
Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way."
9:52 a.m.
Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha for Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "South tower, Steve, south tower, tell them...Tower one. Battalion Seven to Ladder 15.
"Fifteen."
Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you."
Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifteen Roof to 15. We're on 71. We're coming right up."
Now skip to 01:11:22...
9:57 a.m.
"Division 3 ... lobby command, to the Fieldcom command post."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Operations Tower One to floor above Battalion Nine."
Battalion Nine Chief: "Battalion Nine to command post."
Battalion Seven Operations Tower One: "Battalion Seven Operations Tower One to Battalion Nine, need you on floor above 79. We have access stairs going up to 79, kay."
Battalion Nine: "Alright, I'm on my way up Orio."
Ladder 15 OV: "Fifteen OV to Fifteen."
Ladder 15: "Go ahead Fifteen OV, Battalion Seven Operations Tower One."
Ladder 15 OV: "Stuck in the elevator, in the elevator shaft, you're going to have to get a difference elevator. We're chopping through the wall to get out."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Radio lobby command with that Tower One."
9:58 a.m.
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15."
(END OF TAPE)
These tapes reveal the fact that the firefighters were not overly concerned with the strength of the fires and believed they could control them. They were not raging infernos that could melt steel. These tapes alone prove that the official story of the collapse of the World Trade Towers is a complete and total lie. Why have the rest of the tapes been classified? Because they reveal the truth, that 's why.
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