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Professor: Big Money Behind Global Warming Propaganda
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, March 11, 2008
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| Hayden pointed out that global warming is taking place throughout the solar system, underscoring the fact that natural causes and not human beings are driving climate change, which has occurred throughout history. | |
A retired physics professor became the latest public figure to debunk the myth of a "consensus" behind man-made global warming when he slammed big money interests for pushing climate change propaganda that was at odds with real science in a speech yesterday.
Howard C. Hayden, emeritus professor of physics from the University of Connecticut, told a Pueblo West audience that he was prompted to speak out after a visit to New York where he learned that scaremongering billboards about the long-term effects of global warming were being purchased at a cost of $700,000 a month.
"Someone is willing to spend a huge amount of money to scare us about global warming," Hayden said. "Big money is behind the global-warming propaganda."
Hayden pointed out that global warming is taking place throughout the solar system, underscoring the fact that natural causes and not human beings are driving climate change, which has occurred throughout history.
"Yes, the polar ice caps are shrinking . . . on Mars," he said, "On Mars, the ice caps are melting and small hills are disappearing," adding that warming trends were also being observed on Jupiter, Saturn and Triton.
Citing the fact that human activity is responsible for just 3 per cent of carbon-dioxide emissions on earth, Hayden said that carbon levels in the atmosphere have been rising and falling for 400,000 years.
"We are at the lowest levels in the last 300,000 years," he said. "During the Jurassic period, we had very high levels of carbon dioxide."
"About 97 percent of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere comes from natural sources, not humans," Hayden concluded, adding that global warming is being pushed not by grass roots advocacy groups, but by giant corporations who stand to gain from selling concepts such as carbon tracking and carbon trading.
As we reported last year, During the secretive Trilateral Commission group meeting in March 2007, elitists gathered to formulate policy on how best they could exploit global warming fearmongering to ratchet up taxes and control over how westerners live their lives.
At the confab, European Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger and chairman of British Petroleum Peter Sutherland, gave a speech to his cohorts in which he issued a "Universal battle cry arose for the world to address “global warming” with a single voice."
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Echoing this sentiment was General Lord Guthrie, director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons, member of the House of Lords and former chief of the Defense Staff in London, who urged the Trilateral power-brokers to "Address the global climate crisis with a single voice, and impose rules that apply worldwide."
A common charge leveled against those who question the official orthodoxy of the global warming religion is that they are acting as stooges for the western establishment and big business interests. If this is the case, then why do the high priests of the elite and kingpin oil men continue to fan the flames of global warming hysteria?
In his excellent article, Global warming hysteria serves as excuse for world government, Daniel Taylor outlines how the exploitation of the natural phenomenon of "global warming" was a pet project of the Club of Rome and the CFR.
"In a report titled "The First Global Revolution" (1991) published by the Club of Rome, a globalist think tank, we find the following statement: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
"Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article "State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era," that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves…"
The fact that global warming hysteria is being pushed by governments that have been caught lying to the public on a regular basis, along with elitists whose stated goal is to push fearmongering as a means of increasing taxation and control over our lives, emphasizes the reality that, allied to the its phony scientific foundation, global warming is just the latest hobby-horse on which control freaks have piggy-backed their agenda to dominate and rule.
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March 11th, 2008 at 7:53 am
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:54 am
You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Reality leaves a lot to the imagination.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Another simple math. Rich men industrialized the world. Rich companies polluted since way before there was regulation. In the old days , someone’s husband had to grow tits before industry began to be watched and regulated. They spewed tons of crap into the air ever since. Now that they are rich , now that we have no choice on our shelves between carbon derived and non-carbon derived , now that they crushed clean technologies and promoted pollution spewing gadgets , now its our fault. I knew this was bulls--- back in the 90’s when they started talking about it. Any man willing to take the blame for another’s inconsideration , guess he desrves to pay. I own no companies and throw my trash away so I don’t pollute. I’M NOT RESPONSIBLE , this sytem is. Same for money and credit. They say each person owes so much. I owe no-one nothing. I own everything I have outright , payed for!!! You wanna be fooled , good luck. We’re not all blind idiots.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:17 am
thank god for global warming,we need it to unite and became one peaceful nation under one flag.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am
John Lennon’s Worst Nightmare…
Imagine all the SHEEPLE, existing without peace,
you may say what a bum-mah, and your not the only one…
DON’T LET IT HAPPEN PEOPLE… just say no… IMPEACH… IMPEACH… IMPEACH…
http://www.infowarsupportnetwo.....ucker.html
March 11th, 2008 at 8:52 am
it’s so funny to see these ridiculous celebrities & muscians pander some cause with such a self-righteous stance, and I bet none of them could actually break down the science behind any of it, you know history books will remember those who are just followers as well as those who willingly deceived millions……sorry mr eddie vedder & co.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Global Warming / Man Made Climate Change….
Yet another snake oil being sold by the ACME Snake Oil Co.
Funding for such baloney has been generously given to PBS by BP, Dutch Royal Shell, The Ford Foundation and the Council on Foreign Relations. Trust them. They know what’s best .
March 11th, 2008 at 9:02 am
forget about global warming. the INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL is probably behind this also.
priority #1 is getting rid of the federal reserve who has been stealing money from every american since 1913. that’s 95 years! in the 1700’s and the 1800’s we had ruthless bankers who also had complete control of our currency. however, a president who truly cared about his people got voted in and eliminated those monopolies. those past monopolies didn’t last as long as our current federal reserve. our current federal reserve has been controlled by ruthless bankers for 95 years. if we don’t vote in a president who want’s to get rid of the federal reserve, we are all f---ed. By f---ed, i mean more taxes, more unwanted war, and more mass murder inside the USA
March 11th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Even if global warming is a sham, that doesn’t mean that POLUTION isn’t still a big problem. Humans are causing great destruction to this planet, and that needs to be stopped.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Here’s what I want to know- where do the holes in the Ozone come from? What are they doing to our planet? I agree with the last guy. We got to stop using cars and shut down the massive polluting factories RIGHT NOW regardless of wheter there is global warming or not. C’mon, Alex? Global warming is a big sham, but you can’t tell me that spew billions of tons of gases into the air isn’t effecting anything. You could provide all the evidence in the world, It doesn’t matter. Billions of tons of smoke in the air would HAVE TO f--- something up. That’s common sense.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:15 am
OG… Read the BIBLE!
March 11th, 2008 at 9:17 am
OG – i agree with you pollution is still a big problem. however, the INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL is our biggest threat in this country(watch zeitgeist). we have gotten to the point where we can’t even impeach our presidents. they are being protected by the elite bankers. THE USA IS TURNING INTO A FAT JOKE. the world is laughing at us. the world cannot understand why we allow our government to do whatever they want, whenever they want.
i believe that JFK was assasinated by the INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL. i can’t prove this yet but i am trying to find evidence that he wanted to rid us of the federal reserve
March 11th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Since I’ve read in the Bible ‘He shall destroy those who destroy the Earth!’ , I’ll walk a mile with garbage in my hand until I find a trash can. When I’m on the metro , and someone has left a bottle rolling around on the floor , and everyone stares and gets pissed off but does nothing , I pick it up and throw it in the trash at the next stop. Each man can only take care of himself. But I can’t afford to take on a mess this size when the rich pricks who caused it get off free. Major polution comes from Industry , not men. Idiots like Flyboy who spend their money on trips everywhere so that they stick MORE airplanes spewing s--- straight into the air , and its OUR fault. Taking natural products off the shelf and only offering carbon derived products , killing the watercar to promote oil , all of that is not US. Its them. Its their world , their system , and their fault. They have Trillions , they make and run money , let them pay for it!!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Jeff , years ago the proffesionals said it. Everytime a space shuttle or rocket or ship goes up , it punches a hole in the ozone that doesn’t repair. They know this. You could probably find out more on NASA’s site. Google search it.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Steve Watsons Cheesy Apartment is smarter than an emeritus professor of physics from the University of Connecticut.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Wow, lots of ignorance here. You don’t need an advanced degree in anything to understand that the “science” backing up anthropogenic global warming is bunk, or that ozone is a naturally recurring substance.
Do yer frickin’ homework, kiddies. Use your heads for something other than keeping your shoulders from collapsing in on your torsos.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:00 am
I’m not great with mainstream musicians but, is that Alanis Morissette on the cover of this piece holding the globe?
And oh yeah. Tyranny sucks!
March 11th, 2008 at 10:18 am
He still doesn’t address the key point, and that is that carbon dioxide does NOT cause atmospheric warming, in the first place.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:19 am
John Lennen must roll in his grave. When you’ve spotted the demon and the dammage he’s done , you don’t suck up and become his freind. Stars sellout just like politicians because they need anothers approval to make themselves feel better. If Lennen didn’t like it , he didn’y care who you were (position or power) , he didn’t like it , and he didn’t like the people who made it this way and who have the machinary to change it. Real heroes DON’T sell out!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Simpleman , Fred , where’d the kids go??? Gotta keep an eye on them!
March 11th, 2008 at 10:22 am
These guys make like they laugh , but I REALLY am laughing my butt off right now.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Do some research and you will find that there are changes going on in our solar system.
Remember that WE move around the sun with our neighboring planets but OUR solar system is also moving within OUR galaxy, alas we are just in part of a spin on the outsets of our Galaxy.
It’s not all man, It’s just how she works. (Playing with the sky sure does’nt help though!)
Our atmosphere is made up of much less than 1.0% of Co2. more like .2% Co2 can help keep us green and oxygen rich.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:52 am
I think everyone agrees, water and air pollution are real and something to be avoided.
But, I think the real issue involving the Global Warming Debate, revolves more around creating a means by which the elite control freaks of this planet can manipulate the future of world markets.
When you look at the overall framework, this is even bigger than being able to manipulate market values on Wallstreet with a very selective game plan, designed to make and break markets that will competely resturcture the Global economy.
If they put a global tax on CO2, we will see corporations merge in new ways to take advantage of group rates, which would be based upon CO2 trading points. The end result would not necessarily be at all effective in terms of reducing CO2, but rather how penatly points would be deferred. Where we would end up is fighting over deferred CO2 penalty points that would become bigger than Wallstreet and this would actually become a form of “inverse” Global currency, forcing all kinds on new mergers and bankruptcies.
You may not understand how “inverse” currency works. It’s actually quite stealth and is not considered to be actual money by most people. How it works is the same way that an ice covered road inversly affects an otherwise well designed car tire, making the vehicle uncontrollable. No matter how much horsepower you’ve got and how good the vehicle is designed, you’re not going up that hill.
Since most of us have been raised and taught that hard work pays, most everyone has learned and fully understands the importance of good tires and a well built machine. Most of the economy, as most of us understand it, is based upon such basic principles.
With Global Warming agendas, it basically throws in a big banana peel, like icing the roads over, in a selective way, to control WHO will get to the market and makes a profit. This is how INVERSE PRINCIPLES work, it’s the tapestry we all dance upon and has nothing to do with the individual, their market experience or their merits. But like fools, when everything fails by such methods, we individuals are asked to take all the blame and that’s how it works.
To think that unrealted corporations would merge because of their CO2 point deferrment needs, is just an insane new marketing slant, that is designed to fly over everyone’s radar. And how will we measure success with the new war against CO2 ten years from now, after 20 or more??? vocanic eruptions have happened, any one of which annihilates any possible gains we may or may not achieve in reducing atmospheric CO2?
What we have here folks, are three cups and one marble. Now watch as propaganda moves and spins the cups round and round, faster and faster and please cast your vote on the cup of your choice. But before you do, understand that the bets are mandatory and will spell ruin for those that are not already in on the inside of the game. The predestined winners will then kneel down on their knees, kiss the sidewalk and stand as they raise their arms upward and wipe tears from their eyes as they sing, “we’re in the money, we’re in the money, laa daa dee doo daa daa.”
This is a Global economic warfare strategy between the elite and general population. The end plan is that no nation can or ever will win, where the enemy is everywhere regardless of the illusion of borders, us dirty carbonites of the earth that exhale CO2.
Wake up America.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am
So. If this is true, what the hell is going on with the environment right now?
March 11th, 2008 at 11:02 am
In response to Cal post 25.
Man is polluting the environment with GM crops, industrial pollution and over population etc. However GLOBAL WARMING, if it’s real is caused by the SUN.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:30 am
It’s a morbid observation, but if every one on earth just stopped breathing for an hour, the greenhouse effect would no longer be a problem.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:42 am
The earth and our entire solar system is going through warming and cooling cycles, that ice cores and geological records confirm are driven by fluctuations in sun spot cycles. These warming and cooling cycles are in many ways similar to other cycles we are familar with, like high and low tide, summer and winter, etc.. The geological record proves the earth goes through ice ages approximately every 10,000 years, alternating with tropical cycles, as existed in Jerasic times.
Although, I am not sure how Global warming and sun spots may affect menstruation, anothe cycle of mother nature.
What they are telling us is the same old guilt trip that the elite have layed upon us all from birth, to get control of the masses. With religion they told us we were bad because we were born naked and of the original sin and so we must pay hommage and repent till we die.
Now that that lie is no longer working, they’ve come up with all kinds of new stuff, like terrorism necessitating they spy upon us to make us behave, and of course Global Warming because we are bad and burn fossil fuel to go to work and make money. Since we are bad, we must go on a big guilt trip, pay hommage and repent until we die. It’s just the same old s--- in a different box with a new tag.
Where the earth is environmentally, is a real problem, but it’s due more to toxic chemicals, GMO’s & chemicals in animal feed – where we eat the meat and dairy, over use of antibiotics, hormones and hormone disruptors, pesticides, vaccines, mercury, etc., etc.. These are very real problems caused by man, but none of them have anything to do with sun spots and climate cycles.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Waffle global warming waffle club of rome, waflle cfr
March 11th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Apocalypse 2012: An investigation into Civilization’s End by Lawrence Joseph is a great book about solar cycles that effect Earth’s changing environment.
Although I have to admit that of all the stories covered by Alex Jones & his correspondents, the Global Warming story makes me the most squeemish. No matter what the cause of Global Warming, everyone has a responsibility to protect the Earth. Of course Corporations not people are the biggest causes of pollution, trash and wilderness destruction.
My point is this: Not everyone who is trying to protect the environment is part of some vast Global conspiracy to Control the World. There I said it!
March 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
everyone the moon is melting if we dont come up with a TAX we will all die TAX TAX TAX how about we tax them elite f---s that think they can rule the world better yet why dont we just round the scum up in front of a firing sqaud and take care of these elite scumbags for good then the problem will be solved;)
March 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Why are they promoting failed ideas that start with “Global” Something?????????????
Free Trade —-> Global Markets —> Global Economy —> Globalism —-> CRASHED!
Now it is:
Global Warming —> Global Taxation —> Global Enforcement —> Global Government
Globalism failed miserably, now it is Global Warming.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
i think Al Gore is not so bad as often showed here. I’ve read his book ‘attack on reason’ and he’s actually talking about the threat of fascism and how the media has been centralized and so on. I think there are some hints on 9/11 in his movie ‘an inconvinient truth’. He’s talking about that democracy is under threat. Climate change is happening, but i don’t think carbon causes it. It’s a hype to legizimize the global carbon tax.
Well, just wanted to give a hint to look deeper into that ‘Al Gore’ issue. In his movie, i think he’s trying to give some hints about 9/11 without endangering himself too much.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Excellent article. It’s always been a political & economic scam but pitched as a scientific situation.
Already here in New Zealand, the government has taken the GW thing extremely seriously, hook line & sinker. Corporates are towing along organizing themselves to profit off the situation. Every environmental group wastes time “educating” people about GW.
It takes valuable time away from the type of people that might otherwise be raising real issues such as G.E, which has gained momentum here in the past few months. We still don’t have labels on food & they are talking about growing Monsanto crops here. It’s outrageous how dumb humans can be.
The business world is adjusting itself to accommodate this f*cked-up scam, organising themselves around the “bottom line” of the GW debate – basically, how to either make money off it , or at least, not lose money. It makes me sick.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Yes this is a magical planet and we can do anything we want to it and nothing will happen. Lets disregard the 40 years of research on GW. Yes all those 10s of thousands of scientists are all on the NWO payroll. You people are fools. I suppose cigarettes are really not bad for you to.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
The realization just popped into my mind, that just before Enron abandoned the Afghanistan oil pipeline, a huge methane gas find was made off the coast of Africa. At the time I though Enron had jumped ship, knowing that the war was comming and that the pipeline project would be distroyed. Anyway, they wasted no time transferring everything, including investment accounts to the African methane gas project.
Now how does this fit together with the claims of Global Warming? For starters, methane gas produces 50% less CO2 than coal and about 25% less CO2 than oil. Humm, it’s got me thinking. Could it be that methane gas sources have become so vast that they may be putting competitive pressure on middle east oil markets?
Could it be that with a little, global legislative help, backed by claims of Global Warming and the CO2 footprint from oil, that we are being led towards methane markets by investors? They have not formally announced it yet, but does anyone think there is an unspoken agenda towards developing methane as a primary fuel source, while simultaneously attempting to pass legislation which penalizes crude oil markets.
Said another way, could there be a Global Warming hoax played out, to give methane investors the market push they would love to have? Otherwise, they would have to wait for a much slower and gradual market conversion.
I personally would have nothing against a market change to methane gas, but I think that going Ape over Global Warming and the CO2 footprint to push the market, would not be honest. Threatening everyone with Global Warming for sake of such a new market, is of itself a form of economic terrorism and manipulation, especially if they are using bias information to sell the new market. To merely say that methane burns cleaner is OK, but to threaten an ecologic disaster that demands global legislation to capture a new market should be viewed as a crime.
It all seems a little too convenient and somehow seems to be related.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
By the way, many of the prominent scientists involved with the Global Warming Debate have jumped ship and many have said their research was misquoted and taken out of context, and others have down right said it’s a hoax in terms of attempting to control CO2 . They all agree we have had some warming, but that sun spot cycles and volcanic activity are the cause.
Similar cycles took place thousands of years ago as proved by ice cores. This was when people lived in caves and cooked with fire. I get it, it was all of those cave people that caused it the last time it happened, probably from dripping animal fat on all those stone fire pits.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
That is completely inaccurate Blacksmith. Global Warming is not something you can debate on a blog, actually you really need an understanding of quantum physics to discuss it at all. But to say prominent scientists have changed there mind and decided it was a hoax is just ridiculous. It is an incomplete science, but the skepticism about it is not healthy. Oh, and yeah the 10s of thousands of scientist that have studied it over the past decades just plain forgot about sunspots and volcanic activity…
The fact is we as the whole globe are in a predicament with many many ecological problems besides GW. And all of your religion based fantasy world propaganda regarding the problems do not help solve anything. The fact is there probably is going to be a mass die-off because of resource depletion, ecological collapse and peak oil. The infinite growth paradigm of our economic model is the killer…
We live on a FINITE planet where there are ecological consequences to our impact. Notice the drought in the southeast and the impending so cal one.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
2 B fair, the parasites (busihespeople, politicians, etc.) ALWAYS try 2 screw us. Of all the scams, @ least this 1 will actually help the environment. If they really ‘have’ 2 screw us, this is by far the best way. I was born in Lost Angeles & I know all about smog. It’s nasty stuff. True, it does not cause global this or that, but reducing emissions WILL make the world a more picturesque place.
Really though the solution is two fold. Invest in things like the oil industry (to reap the benefits of their scam$) while simultaneously ’sticking it 2 the man’ by not driving, or driving electric. Here’s a wild concept – USE YOUR LEGS!
) U will look better 2!
I drive maybe 2X a month – literally. I will also B changing 2 solar 1 of these days. Remember, when U use ‘the grid’ electricity, that comes from burning something! Or nuke rods. The SUN is FREE & always will B! Get PANELS & charge your ‘electric vehicles’ & appliances that way. It’s really not that expensive. I should do it – but wow electricity is so damn CHEAP I just don’t bother
) Maybe if electricity goes up I will. Gas is a joke though. It’ll B a cold day in hell when I let those fat ugly fuks screw me with pricy gass. The only time I drive is 2 go 2 the grocery store. That’s about it.
Know your rights – if U don’t ENTER their scam, it costs U little – if N E thing. Same with income. Do cash business, or paid into foreign tax free accounts. It’s simple really.
March 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Im sure deluding yourself into thinking that your actions do not have consequences and it is all the big bad global elite that are using it as a control mechanism make you feel better about yourself. Go back and watch fox news b/c that is what you sound like
March 11th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Oh P.S.: When I say ‘grocery store’ I mean Cosco
Costco, & then the regular store 4 what is not @ Costco. As U may have guessed, I make my own food from scratch – bread, etc. All restaurant stuff, or processed foods, are POISON!
I also look half my age. Sux 2 B U! HAHAHAHA
March 11th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
arraya is another of those spics who goes around spouting crap. U must first understand, 2 a spic, words R meaningless. Theyre rather like kikes, but much, much dumber. 4 instance, spics will say 911 was caused by guys in a cave – not because they really think so – but because they think if they play along they will get an opportunity 2 ‘kill whitey’ in concentration camps. That brings us 2 the second point – spics R infinitely corrupt – ZERO redeeming qualities. Hey @ least nigs come up with SOME interesting music. Spics??? nothing.
So tell us Mr. Burrito, how ‘quantum physics’ is necessary 2 describe global warming mechanisms? What part of ‘the sun is getting brighter’ do U not understand? It goes through phases. What part of ‘warming is occuring throughout the solar system, not just on Earth’ do U not understand?
U understand – U R just here mocking truth because as with everything, words R meaningless 2 spics – just tools 2 try & skate by.
What R U hoping 4 Mr. Spic – a job as a meter maid dolling out tickets 2 people who don’t have the latest ‘carbon tax paid’ sticker on their license plate? What’s your angle Salsa Man
) Tell us. Your psychosis is entertaining!
March 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Look the Brazilian fightjng with NWO!
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/B.....ZONAS.html
March 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
take look Brazilian indians fighting with NWO
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/B.....ZONAS.html
March 11th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
To arraya (36)
Of course we can’t do anything we want to our planet and not expect consequences. But global warming hysteria is actually a threat to the environment. Valid environmental concerns go unnoticed or are ignored, because nobody sees anything beyond global warming.
40 years of research? What, by biased scientists who live off global warming grants and funds? And the 10’s of thousands of scientists are either gullible or they know that, if they provide a dissenting view they will recieve little funds. You are the fool here.
Don’t you see the irony in your late statement? Not long ago doctors encouraged people to smoke because they thought they were supposedly healthy.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
In case no one has realized it, there are progressive layers of awareness and truths with most all scientific research leading from theory to fact. The reason for this is that each new layer if it is to be adopted as a fact, must out prove or supplement previously held beliefs.
Someone on this form recently said that doctors once promoted smoking as healthy and that’s is exactly what doctors did say, once upon a time. Back then it was believed that slightly irritating the lungs toughened them up and resulted in greater resistance to diseases of the lung. Of course, this belief has been disproved with statistics and better research, that was finally freed from restrictions placed upon doctors by the tobbaco company lawyers. The same tug of war is going on in regards to amalgum tooth fillings, which contain as much as 50% mercury. Very few dentists or doctors will admit it’s really bad for peoples health, for fear of persecution by the ADA and AMA, even when they know or suspect just how bad it is. Like I know a guy whose father is a dentist and when his dughter needed a filling in a child’s tooth, she got gold, as her grandfather the dentist insisted. The entire family has either silicates or gold fillings, but NOT amalgums. Why do you suppose this is?
Anyway, the very best metiorologists are saying that current day models of climatology are still too primitive to make any educated predictions about global warming. This comes after Al Gores documentary and most of the more promenent researchers agree, we still don’t know enough to make any accurate claims. As they discuss the time lag seen in core samples and atmospheric CO2 peaks, it now appears that global warming occurs slightly before the CO2 build up and that the CO2 actually bubbles up out of the ocean from a temperature rise in the water, the same as happens with a carbonated soft drink that’s allowed to warm up. This happens to be a scientific law involving gasses that are saturated in water, where warmer water releases more of it’s saturated gasses, not the other way around.
My whole point especially on these forums, is that most people are not scientists and they may have only seen a documentary or two and may not have heard the latest blurb update that flies in journals and other selective scientific publications.
So we have all the accumulative layers of information and opinions, depending on how well informed someone is. And believe it or not, there are lay persons that are interested and keep up fairly well, but that lack the debate skills to raise the general public’s awareness, as they often sound like they are quoting a stupid source, or older studies.
Case in point, so many people have been hypnotized by Gore’s statements, that they have no idea that more recent research has already happened that disproves Gore’s claims. Or they did not get the news blurb, that most of the scientists on the Global Warming team, have abandon ship, claiming their research was misquoted and that they never agreed with theory as presented by Gore. Most of them are saying that the most current climatology models are primitive at best and that it could go one of three ways: 1- things will stabilize, 2- it could get warmer and 3- it could get cooler, depending upon whether the sun continues with another connsecutive low sun spot cycle for ther next 9 years.
We all agree that pollution is not a good thing, it stinks, makes our eyes water, and is bad for our health. We know this much for sure. What we don’t know is if it is contributing to global warming significantly, realizing that water vapor, sulpher dioxide and silicate dust from volcanos are by far more of a green house gas than CO2. Water vapor alone is many times more of a green house gas than CO2 and that’s a fact.
And lastly, NASA has confirmed that the entire solar system is heating up, the Mars polar caps are melting, along with the moons around Jupiter and Saturn. And there is nothing we humans can do about Global Warming on Mars or Jupiter.
This is not an A+B=C logic formula we are dealing with. This problem requires complex algorythms, differential equations and multiple climate models using super computers. Because of this, the only correct and HONEST answer that can be given by the best, is that we don’t know yet. Anything beyond that is an opinion and everyone has one of those, trust me on that, if you catch my drift.
But there is one outstanding fact and that is the ability to control markets through fear. In fact this one principle is as old as the original sin and being guilty of something forever, making an obedient follower of the masses.
We should clean up the environment based upon facts and it would be foolish to spend trillions on market adjustments, where the science changes as fast as the facts that are still coming in, requiring new models that have opposite conclusions.
For now, get a kettle drum and pound it and chant something if it makes you feel better.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Of course the coporate profiteers find a way to make money on even the carbon tax. They’re already selling carbon credits to heavy polluters through “Geo-engineering.” One plan already in effect, the company is “injecting iron” into the ocean to produce plankton blooms (heavy metals can be highly toxic to marine life) and the next plan is to “place reflective aerosols” in the atmosphere. Aren’t aerosols what they originally blamed for burning the holes in the ozone layer?
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=22371
March 11th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
49ChristianBrother? Alex Jones defends the Constitution and gun rights. He also stays on the cutting edge of current events exposing trojan horse legislation, Constitutional violations, police state activity, the occult, high tech big brother, vote fraud, and much more.
Even the author of “The Rothschild Bloodline” condemns anti semitism.
Alex Jones defense of the Constitution and gun rights alone exhonerates him from all suspicion. And Alex Jones is also a Christian too. So you are not being a very good “Christian brother” to him. Alex works very hard to bring us timely and truthfull information. To see paranoid people who are afraid of their own shadows accuse him makes me ill.
Alex has also gone to great lengths to cover 911, and building 7. Why would an NSA troll do that? Can a house divided against itself stand? To accuse Alex Jones is foolhardy at best.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
arryah post 39
Enough BS and quantum physicis is not involved.
What is involved are differential equations and advanced computer climate model algorithms and accurate data. One of the big concerns at the top of the list among solar scientists, is whether there will be another, consecutive sun spot cycle for the next 9 to 11 years. Right now, that’s the biggest factor in determining whether this will heat up or cool off.
Yeah, I know about quantum physics and sub atomic particles and light wave/particle observation, the Copenhegan Model, so don’t try and throw BS at everyone on this forum that you can solve Global Warming with quantum mechanics.
I may get a little lazy and spell a few words wrong(don’t like using a dictionary) from time to time, but peddaling BS is something that really offends me. You might be wise to consider that people read these forums to gain insight and post their ideas.
Do some real research and Google Vulcanism & Atmospheric Effects. Check out how much sulphur dioxide, particulate dust and CO2, that Pinatabo spewed out in one eruption; more than all the CO2 than man’s entire industrial revolution. There you will learn the biggest green house gas is water vapor.
You might also want to Google NASA in regards to their observations involving thaws seen on Mars and moons like Europa. These are facts.
Now, if you would take the time to read Karl Marx’s, Communist Manifesto and study the social manipulation tactics of Hegel and then maybe study our Constitution and what the issues were back then, you might just realize our founding documents were written to protect American citizens from the oldest issue man has had to face which is tyranny by over empowered government. This is actually a worthy subject, studied and expanded by Hilter, Stallin, Mussolini the Soviets and is quite well documented. And if you had ever studied Malthusian evolution of societies to eugenics, you might be able to understand the debate on this forum. The fact is, Global Warming as it’s been pitched to the entire world, is a perfect fit, meeting all the requirements and definitions of a Hegelian spin, leading to the tryanny of Fascism and Malthusian techniques.
I am not feeding you garbage here, but past tryants actually incorporated naturally occuring events similar to Global Warming and other natural disasters, along with manipulated news, to shape their nations economy and social outcome. So mixed in here, in these forums are discussions, some pertaining to the science that is known, along with the past historical examples and heart felt realizations that it’s happening again. This is not just crack pot talk and although not everyone has a college degree, they are trying their best and most do recognize the arrogance of our elite and leaders as an outstanding, silent alarm bell, which history has proved time and time again. We may have lay persons here, but they get the lingo when it comes to abuseive authority, political power plays, false Intel, along with all the other obvious lies being spewed out. So please, I am a little hot under the collar, but I am willing to spend the time needed to write something that is truthful and well researched by myself and others.
And for anyone else out there, go back and Google what I have mentioned and GET EDUCATED. We need to have debates that mean something, where lay persons can gain information and where we can all talk about it without a bunch of BS.
History is real, Malthusian principles and Hegelian Dialetics are real and so are the methods used by tyrants seeking power, as real as known football plays and we can’t discuss that if you refuse to learn about it.
No one has to be a genius tounderstand the thread, because it’s really the same as understanding how football plays work, they are strategic, historic and they work. You don’t have to know all the names and dates involved with football, but it helps and surely anyone that knows how to play the game, IS WELCOME.
Enough now
March 11th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
After reading “None Dare Call it Conspiracy” and watching “New World Order” by Mullins, I concluded that we Americans are 5 seconds away form dictatorship. Selling the global warming tax is just another hand reaching into the back pocket as we struggle to stay afloat. I’m very discouraged with truth sites as non of them effect change. Our votes are not counted and our voices may be heard, but have no strength. Jones may as well report that a pigeon s--- a turd on his wife as she was walking out of Macy’s last night for all the good it does. So 911 was an inside job, the government is criminal, the water is tainted, the dollar is crashing, our democracy an illusion. Start offering some solutions there buckarooes. Quit wasting peoples time begging for dollars to buy your information, cause your telling us how f---ed up s--- is, isn’t changing a god damn thing.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
NWO damage control is making money off of NWO truth videos.
Like blinding deer with the headlights…………..
ROTFLMAO
March 11th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Howard C. Haydens analysis is simple, yet concise, and appeals to just plain old common sense. Why would “big money” spend so much on global warming fear mongering? Cause they are trying to save the planet? Before you make excuses, how about this:
The only real ice melting, is under liar UN homeboy Al Gores feet.
Because Al Gores mansion uses over 20 TIMES the energy of an average American household.
Google video- “The Great Global Warming swindle”, and “Iron Mountain”.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
…….and the World………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Dont be afraid to be called an anti-semite after you figure out the truth.
Far too many threw in the towel after realizing the truth, but could not take the next step and alert others.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
How many Churches still think BUSH is a Prophet ? Or is that theory also in Limbo ?
March 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
There is a brand new large billard near Hasty MN. on the north side of I-94 that states “Gore is a LIAR” Nobel peace prize winner
The sheeple are waking up but very slowly
March 11th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
When will the NWO whores tell us the virtues of spying on our neighbors & family on their behalf ???
March 11th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
All the churches of the IRS 501 c 3 whores!
March 11th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
They already are its called INFRAGARD!
March 12th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Every individual member of the government , corporation, media affiliate,monarchy& any other rogue elite member should pay taxes for every missile,nuclear weapon and destructive part of the military industrial complex.Not us our taxes dollars already funded the evil agenda. Time to place blame where it should actually go. Enough with the carbon tax crap. Yes there is pollution but these psycopaths can’t seem to get it that war has one the most detremental affects of planet distruction.Not to mention Monsanto poisoning or food, HAARP, and chemtrails. These suicidal nihilists are simply too lazy to deal with the real problems so instead they blame us and then exterminate us.
Remember patriots:No taxation without representation.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:25 am
Will someone here actually DO something? I stumbled upon your website and others like it after my friend suggest I watch zeitgeist. That was earlier today. If you plan on educating the masses and stopping what will be our rfid chipped, one-world government slavery then you need to make your information more readilly available. The only way anyone can find any of this stuff is if they are already looking for it. Everyone I tell about anything that’s happening refuses to believe anything I say and are actually amused by it! You must let the world know. I refuse to be a slave watching my friends and family get “depopulated” or controlled by a corporation because of their ignorance. I have nowhere to run to avoid this. I’m relying on you to help educate and save all of us before it’s too late. I beg you please put your financial gain and minor philosophical differences aside and help keep us alive…in every sense of the word.
March 12th, 2008 at 2:33 am
I had no idea this site was so infiltrated by delusional racists and religious zealots. I think the human race really is doomed. I just hope I’m gone before I have to see my loved one’s die.
March 12th, 2008 at 3:46 am
i think we really need a truth channel to bring the information to the average cheep-couch. Problem is: Everyone on the web already is informed, except these annoying disinfo agents (jews did it, listen to my religious theory)
March 12th, 2008 at 3:50 am
Imagine the truth channel. The average sheep zapps bored through the channels. Insanity & Calmes? Nah. O’Reilly hatespeech? Nah. All of a sudden, there are serious people talking about WTC7 being demolished by explosives. WTF? Never heard of that before! Meanwhile, the MSM controlled channels are freaking out trying to deny everything- making it only more obvious!
A truth channel would be a great, great, great victory for the movement!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 4:00 am
Frt the truth channel, we need someone trustworthy. I believe there are lots of disinfo guys out there who are trying to ‘flip the change’ as they say. Some shows on revere-radio (pot-smoking guys cussing and making sexual references 90% of the time) are like that. It’s always the same. Put some nutty cooks on the stage and let them look nutty. The other thing is Jim Fetzer & Jody Woods. I think Fetzer is a disinfo guy using Jody Woods. Jody Woods really came up with some nutty theories concerning the WTC lately, including beams from outer space and the ‘hutchison effect’, which is a complete hoax.
So the movement really is full of disinfo agents trying to ‘flip the change’. Still, we really need a tv channel to get to the next level. Alex Jones, completely trustworthy, would be the best choice in organizing this thing. He must have a good overview in media things and he know which people to trust.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:15 am
Hope I’m not blocked.
Jake , this site has been up and doing this for years. People have tried for years. Other shows are on doing the same thing for years. Something you might not get yet……THE MEDIA IS SET AGAINST US!!!! That’s why you have to know what you are looking for. Just about everything is out there to be found , but yes , one has to train one’s self to investigate. See , they were happy to put out or open access to the web , the web was for them anyways. Thats why its called ‘The Web’ or ‘The Net’ , these sickos worship spiders and fish gods and goats and you name it , everything and anything but what they SHOULD worship ( the one who created all these things). Now if they said the net was theirs , we’d have spotted them and freaked out. So they did the old twist ‘It’s not for us , it’s for YOU GUYS! Freedom. Free net. Free access. Free knowledge , etc.’. They usually publish in some form what the plan is or pieces of it. And they have to release it for public access , but before it would go straight to news and reporters. Then a politician would stand and start warning people , and they’d have to kill him ( check Governer of Alabama 1983 , talking with Pat Buchanan 3 months before plane shot down). The net was a big pile , too much info , too big a pile , but just perfect to drop in these reports and documents. They all became needles in a haystack. Then they hire people to search the net and report (and get rid of ) easy links , leaving only hard , refined search answers. So you have to be patient , change wording often , and always re-think the search to find ALL possible hits. Then cull the hits for the good stuff. ANd long now , Media itself (owned by these same satanists) does its best to bury real true info and leads , and leave belly lint for our consumption. THe whole reason for the big movement you’re seeing now is because they’ve lied too often and gotten sloppy with the games and their excuses. More and more people can see through the bulls--- right away. The stories don’t work anymore. But I deal with lots of people like who you are talking about. They haven’t been lied to enough and still can’t see through the bulls---. About all you can tell those people is ‘ There is nothing I can do for you. When you are sick of it , when there answers don’t make sense to you anymore , when you realize you can’t trust those leading us , THEN and only then will you want to check this stuff out to see if its true!’. Before that , nothing you say will change that. But have faith , I started just a year ago. Already many that called me a nut at the beginning are listening to me now and checking into things , mostly because of info I got here on Alex’s site. That spanish reporter , Daniel has given me more news on Canada and the agenda here then ANY Canadian news agency , and everytime , accurate. Take note of websites and quick links and give these to the ones who do listen. They can find everything themselves. But with this big a lie , you shouldn’t be suprised at how well they have fooled everyone. The powers take ANY side ( good , bad , Governments , terrorists , Catholic , Jesuit , Knights of Columbus , Mason , you name it) just as long as they get the results they want. Thats why SOOO many SEEM on opposite sides , but behind the curtain its one gang , one thought , one goal…..NWO. Take heart , don’t give up , promote the site , promote the fight. Peace
March 12th, 2008 at 4:22 am
And barbar is me. I was being blocked.
March 12th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Everything I’ve read has been well said. My stand on global warming has not changed. Real or not its a secondary problem to the NWO who takes priority. We must defeat the NWO and in turn if that wipes out global warming, so be it. If it turns out after the NWO is out but there is still concern for the planet’s climate, we’ll deal with it then. Without first destroying the NWO we cannot ever have clear, honest research done on this topic.
March 12th, 2008 at 5:51 am
or any topic for that matter considering they have their hands in just about everything.
March 12th, 2008 at 6:58 am
The religion of scientific subjugation is pure evil…
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March 12th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Club of Rome 72:“If the present growth trends in world population, industrialization, pollution, food production, and resource depletion continue unchanged, the limits to growth on this planet will be reached sometime within the next one hundred years. The most probable result will be a rather sudden and uncontrollable decline in both population and industrial capacity.”
“It is possible to alter these growth trends and to establish a condition of ecological and economic stability that is sustainable far into the future. The state of global equilibrium could be designed so that the basic material needs of each person on earth are satisfied and each person has an equal opportunity to realize his individual human potential.”
“The overwhelming growth in world population caused by the positive birth-rate loop is a recent phenomenon, a result of mankind’s very successful reduction of worldwide mortality. The controlling negative feedback loop has been weakened, allowing the positive loop to operate virtually without constraint. There are only two ways to restore the resulting imbalance. Either the birth rate must be brought down to equal the new, lower death rate, or the death rate must rise again.”
“The result of stopping population growth in 1975 and industrial capital growth in 1985 with no other changes is that population and capital reach constant values at a relatively high level of food, industrial output and services per person. Eventually, however, resource shortages reduce industrial output and the temporarily stable state degenerates.”
“Man possesses, for a small moment in his history, the most powerful combination of knowledge, tools, and resources the world has ever known. He has all that is physically necessary to create a totally new form of human society– one that would be built to last for generations. The two missing ingredients are a realistic, long-term goal that can guide mankind to the equilibrium society and the Human Will to achieve that goal.”
“Without such a goal and a commitment to it, short-term concerns will generate the exponential growth that drives the world system toward the limits of the earth and ultimate collapse. With that goal and that commitment, mankind would be ready now to begin a controlled, orderly transition from growth to global equilibrium.”
Club of Rome in 91 report :This is the way we are setting the scene for mankind’s encounter with the planet. The opposition between the two ideologies that have dominated the 20th century has collapsed, forming their own vacuum and leaving nothing but crass materialism.
It is a law of Nature that any vacuum will be filled and therefore eliminated unless this is physically prevented. “Nature,” as the saying goes, “abhors a vacuum.” And people, as children of Nature, can only feel uncomfortable, even though they may not recognize that they are living in a vacuum. How then is the vacuum to be eliminated?
It would seem that humans need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum; such a motivation must be found to bring the divided nations together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose.
New enemies therefore have to be identified.
New strategies imagined, new weapons devised.
The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.
The old democracies have functioned reasonably well over the last 200 years, but they appear now to be in a phase of complacent stagnation with little evidence of real leadership and innovation
Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time. ”
So there ya go , if you want to know how long this has been planned.
March 12th, 2008 at 9:45 am
MCCAIN HISTORY:
The LIBERTY was the most heavily damaged ship in modern history including WWII.
We did not receive any help from our government for 18 hours after the attack when help was only 15 – 20 minutes away. Why was our government willing to sacrifice 294 American sailors, marines and the finest intelligence ship in the world? That’s what we all were wondering. A few days later, Admiral Isaac Kidd came aboard our ship and ordered every crewman never to speak a word about what happened to us to other crewmen, parents, family, no one under penalty of prison or worse and we all knew what worse meant.
We took the ship to Malta. The dead were removed from the torpedo space and the ship was repaired and painted to look brand new, as if nothing had ever happened.
I stayed silent for many years. I was so afraid to say anything as was the rest of the crew. In about 1983-1984 I read a book called “Assault on the Liberty” by James Ennes Jr., an intelligence officer onboard when we were attacked. I began asking questions of the navy, congress, anyone I could write to find out answers to a simple question – why our government went along with the cover-up as it is still doing today. The standard answer you get from congress is there have already been many investigations which is a bold face lie and I have told them that. All you have to do is check the congressional record and you will see there has never been any investigation except for the sham Board of Inquiry which was a white wash and only took 6 days to complete. Isaac Kidd signed off on it as did Captain Ward Boston, Admiral John McCain Jr. and President Lyndon Johnson all in a matter of 10 days. The conclusion? Mistaken identity!! Captain Boston has recanted what was in the Board of Inquiry as a pack of lies. He was ordered to sign off by none other than Admiral John McCain Jr., Senator McCain’s father.
The fact is we were set up to sink fast, blame it on Egypt and bring the U.S. into the war. This was the deal made by our government and the Israeli Government. This government will not help us get the truth out. They are knee-deep in bed with the Israeli Lobby, AIPAC and every other Israeli interest out there. Our elected officials sold us out then and they are still selling us out now. Israel is committing war crimes on Americans and our government could care less. This country is not “We the Government” it is “We the People” and if we don’t take our government back soon it is nobody’s fault but our own.
FULL STORY: http://ussliberty.wordpress.co.....holocaust/
March 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
A lot of people are saying “SOMEONE DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE NEOCON AGENDA.”
Something is being done and it’s getting everyone informed and up to speed. When enough people understand what’s actually happening, society will reach a tipping point and there will be no stopping humanity from taking back this planet from the crazed NWO freaks.
By spreading the word, you are fighting back. Keep reaching for ways to get through to people, try different angles and don’t stop. We are beginning to crack the damm. Everyday there are more and more mainstream articles in the news about the risks of vaccines, about the wire tapping scandal, about the 1st responders of 9/11, about the false claims revolving around the global warming issue. The message is beginning to leaking out through mainstream and we are having a very real effect. Keep up the pressure everyone and we will break the damm of the NWO.
We have to keep it on the up, no quackery, no violence, set a good example. Let the NWO make the mistakes as the grow ever more frustrated. Lets stay calm and keep going as we have and let these miserable bastards hang themselves, which they will.
The Global Warming farce and toxic water reports are finally making it into the mainstream, where the chemical pollution is making boy fish into girl fish, etc., and the damm is buldging and ready to burst.
This should be a very exciting time for all of us that have been devoted to the cause of embettering life on this earth. We are finally beginning to win. Please don’t stay down, pick yourselves up and say, “HURRAH COMRADS” which for anyone that knows some history, is significant to the victory about to happen.
April 5th, 2008 at 6:34 am
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April 8th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
THE OLIGARCHY IS RULING. The super rich are taking this country down. As my brother says who is worlth over 20 million dollars and has 200 employees with the largest chrome plating plant in the 5 state area of minnesota, WE KNOW THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET ………………BUT AS LONG AS WE GET TO HOLD THE HANDLES ON THE WAY DOWN
“WE DON’T CARE”! DEPRESSION MAY BE COMING LIKE 1930′S RAISE CHICKENS AND
A GARDEN AND DON’T FORGET THE AMMO.
April 22nd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
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