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Proposed Tennessee Bill Would Subject Poor Women to Mandatory Drug Tests
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Feministing
March 3, 2009
Rachel at Women’s Health News brings our attention to this proposed bill in Tennessee that would target certain pregnant women for drug and alcohol testing.
(c) The department, in promulgating rules to implement this act, shall consider the following as indications of the necessity for alcohol or drug testing: (1) No prenatal care; (2) Late prenatal care after twenty-four (24) weeks gestation; (3) Incomplete prenatal care; (4) Abruptio placentae; (5) Intrauterine fetal death; (6) Preterm labor of no obvious cause; (7) Intrauterine growth retardation of no obvious cause; (8) Previously known alcohol or drug abuse; or (9) Unexplained congenital anomalies.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Of course, tactics like this regarding pregnant women is nothing new. In fact, it’s a trend.
In other words, the precedent they’re setting is that, once you are pregnant, your body is not your own. You no longer know what’s best for you. Your doctor no longer knows what’s best for you. You are not allowed to not realize you’re pregnant. You’re not allowed to be afraid. You’re not allowed to be too poor to go to the doctor. You have to do what the State tells you to do while you’re pregnant, because, while you’re pregnant, your body is not your own.
(Mamapundit has more, as well.)
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I could see mandating that women who are on welfare must get norplant implanted in order to receive benefits.
darkstar Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
wrong attitude we cant mandate birthcontrol for anyone. if thats a problem just tell them no more benefits if you have more children we have no right to make them take b.c.
gnayler Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
this is why we shouldn’t have welfare period, because then you get into these type of moral conundrums, the government’s job shouldn’t be to take care of everyone from cradle to grave, that is the role of the family and individual social networks. In the old days people took care of each other because they knew if they didn’t no one else would, nowadays everyone just thinks oh those poor people can get help from the government.
Anyway as almost everyone reading probably this knows this is all part of the new world order plan for global depopulation as demonstrated for example by the Georgia Guidestones where it is etched in stone that they must keep the world population at 500,000,000 in “perpetual balance with nature”. I am all about taking care of the environment (global warming is a red herring designed to deflect environmentalists attention from the real problems of genetic pollution caused by recombinant DNA technology and depleted uranium among other REAL environmental disasters) but this is ridiculous every person on the planet could fit in a single county in Florida, we should work on educating people (with locally owned and operated schools!) so that all 6 billion people can take full advantage of their human intellect and improve the human condition on Earth and perhaps in time beyond.
1EyE Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Man, I hate hearing how “we can fit everyone in a little teacup in Florida or Austrailia…”
The one thing some of you forgetting is how do we provide the resources? Just because we can fit the population in a condensed area doesn’t mean the Earth can keep providing the resources based on current consumption. That’s just a fact.
Robert Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
GET WOMAN TO WANT TO BE
WIFES
mothers
lovers
http://www.henrymakow.com
GET f---ING MEN TO QUIT IGNORING THEIR WIVES
quit being little boys that have to play video games instead of watching a good movie
with their wife
GEt men to get that good sex is three hours NOT THREE MINUTES
get people to believe in THE TRUE GOD jesus
http://www.realanswers.net
http://www.fireproofmarriage.com
http://www.loveandrespect.com
Robert Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I meant WIVES NOT WIFES SORRY STUPID ME AM
joe lock Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
id rather play video games than get married anyday
LTC Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
It’s alright to abort and murder unborn infants, i.e., women get the right to kill yet the government won’t give the them the right to handle their pregnancy in their own way. Seems a bit hypocritical, doesn’t it?
Maybe the government has a few agendas…population control (abortion) and big brother type treatment of poor women who become pregnant? I doubt it though, the government only wants to help these poor and under privileged women.
Dave,
Why should anyone have to take any type of drug or medical apparatus in order to receive benefits? Oh yeah, because it’s your tax dollars supporting those people right? Your tax dollars also killed 1 1/2 million women and children in Iraq but I don’t here you bitching about that.
Anyone who lives in America pays taxes, one way or the other. I see no problem with people getting benefits. It’s the Banks and the corporations that are hurting this country, not the people trying to survive.
survivor of extinction Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
People should be IQ tested before they reproduce.
Michael Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 4:50 am
People should be IQ tested before they become president .
Dr. Sardonicus Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
..perhaps the IQ test should be applied, instead, to people who post on infowars’ forum..
“not a sermon..just a thought”
Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
Warrior Priestess Grandma Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 2:44 am
I seriously want to kick your ass…i think i can take you in a fair fight….
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
This just corroborates what I’ve been saying about the so-called “sovereignty” movement. If Tennessee – one of the states that has supposedly declared its sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment – is passing laws like THIS, what does that say about their sincerity in declaring “sovereignty?” Hmmm? Pay attention to the blizzard of new laws these states are all passing like there is no tomorrow. They are definitely gearing up for something, and it’s NOT “sovereignty.”
LTC Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Right on brother!
It’s all a bunch of bulls--- aimed at digging more money out of the federal government by the state legislatures. They couldn’t give a s--- whether we the people are free or not. The fed gov isn’t the only problem, it’s the state governments also. They’re all in league with each other anyhow.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
next we will probably have to get a permit before we can have sex with our wives..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOJc0w-fzY
Robert Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
good maybe then at least if you have the f---ing coupon she wont be able to say no
http://www.loveandrespect.com
-0- Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
`”she wont be able to say no?”……hmmmm….you are a f---ing whackjob. go jerk off and do all of womankind a favor
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Wow.
I linked to and read the article.
Something in the comments BLEW MY MIND!
“Leslie” posted this:
“At the very least, it makes no sense. How can it be legal to end your baby’s life ON PURPOSE via abortion, and illegal to do it by accident?”
smart girl.
LTC Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
It’s just common sense. I wrote the same thing a post or two above. Shows you how f---ed up these people running us are.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
There are people uniting RIGHT NOW!
Real people, real talk, real solutions!
http://WWW.WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Add you’re not allowed to decide whether or not to go to the doctor.
Several years ago reasearchers discovered that ultrasound has a negative effect on IQ, but it’s big business, so you probably missed it. The drugs they give to babies that are in incubators also cause brain damage. The babies of women who skip doctor visits, eat right, and test their water are much better off than those who follow the AMA guidelines. Women birthed pretty well till doctors came into it. Now just about every woman who has more than one baby has had a C-Section.
jsca Reply:
March 5th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Edit 1st line to: Add that they are not allowing women to decide whether or not to go to the doctor.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Move along! Stay in LINE ! Now go home and watch FOX NEWS or we,ll be comming for you !!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
i think if your on a any welfare program you should be drug tested. s--- i have to take a drug test to work and pay for these damn programs why should someone recieve them not have too. stop alot of wasteful spending on drug addicits i did drug when i was younger because i choose too not because it is some bulls--- disease. i stoped because i wanted to i didn’t need a rehab. as for herion addicts owell if your dumb enough to do it, do us all a favor go jump from a tall building
sewkr8tez Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
We are all doomed
Dr. Sardonicus Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
“Don’t blame me..I voted for Kodos” —-Homer Simpson
Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
BenRod Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Are you sure you weren’t on heroin?
Because whatever drugs you were doing when you were younger, apparently messed up your spelling and grammar.
Also, I prefer my heroin addicts to rain down naturally from the clouds.
dtc6776 Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
never claimed to be the best speller or the best in grammar. but common sence is something they don’t seam to teach anywhere anymore your proof. why don’t you take care of all the poor welfare f---s and i’ll laugh. see i can take care of myself can you? probably not so go wait for your check and obama to rescue you asshole
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Of course they are testing them! What do you think is going to happen to everybody that gets Universal Health Coverage? Barry Soerto said it himself that each person under government healthcare will go see their doctor once a year. Only then, can they drug test people in the name of healthcare.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I know…Let the state reps have the babies. Women do have a choice. We can refuse to have children if the state doesn’t like the way we are doing it. There comes a time for smart reps to butt out before they get their butts kicked out of the bedroom.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Thumbs up gnayler and Robert….. Family, the Church, Morals can “take care ” of each other. So “what” happens to these women who “must” be tested for drugs if they come up positive or refuse to take the drug test….hmmm? Evil scum proposing this bill should be lined up against a wall…. They want to C P S the kids to sell them off to Saudi perverts and lock the mothers away in the rape and torture prisons run by the state. Meanwhile the remaining family and boyfriends will be enrolled in social counceling, re-education and federal rehab programs. Commi Scum.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
These LAWMAKERS are all IDIOTS! PEOPLE that obey laws like this are f---TARDS!
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I just thought of something else! Just because VOLKSWAGEN is going to Build a Factory in Chattanooga Tennessee,does this mean that the state is gearing up for the FORTH RIECH!
Did you know that HITLER made it ILLEGAL for Pregnant Women to Smoke or Drink Alcohol. And this was in the 1930’s
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
LIKE I SAID IN OTHER POST f--- AMERICA AND EVERY BODY THATS IN IT,WE GET WHAT WE ASK FOR AND WE ARE GETTING IT. THANKS AMERICA YOU f--- US UP YOU STUPID f---IN PEOPLE
satan Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
HALLULUAH, YOU f----TARD!
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I actually think its a good thing.Women doing drugs while there pregnant.Is literally condeming children to be retarded.I now a mom that did coaine wile pregnant.And her son is literally retarded.And she smoked pot when pregnant with her daughter.And she just graduated from an ivy league collegue.And to get a drug test you only have to take a mouth swab.Theres no need to draw blood.I personally think if you do cocaine,heroine,crack,or meth.While pregnant.You should go to fu%king jail.If you want to get hi while your pragnant.You need your ass wipped.
robert Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Pregnant
The real Satan Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
What was your mother on?
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Yeah pregnant duecebag.Your a drug dealer rob.Of course you wont like this bill.lol
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
What am I missing here..All doctors do the urine & blood test on all women when they are pregnant.That includes drug testing.. I don’t know why a mandate is needed. There doesn’t seem to be anything new in this at all…
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
With all types of Forced Drugging to come ~
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Out of everything the NWO has come up with, i think this makes the most sense. Too many f---ing stupid girls that are getting knocked by guys that leave them and live off welfare checks and child support. t in the “poor” community..its getting more common to f--- a guy and have his baby if he stays or not. f--- this s---. Im tired of people living on welfare and government checks. Lets break it down…..
you have a 19 year old girl who gets knocked up buy a guy and he leaves….then that means she gets welfare checks and child support. After that you have the baby grown up in a bad environment with no father. Then you have a kid thats growing up f---ed up and had problems and has to see counselors and put on medications which all of this together creates one hell of a price tag from only one person with one baby depending on the government. And dont forget crack babies that are being born deformed and born with down syndrom which f---s up their life in the long run. And if a stupid bitch is smoking and doing drugs while pregnant then im sorry she dont deserve to bring life into this world and should go to jail.
cut the crap Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 4:37 am
Likewise, if the only way to stop crime is to watch everyone constantly, then you must be for that too – or not for it because that’s something that would bother you personally.
Drugs and pregnancy always existed but didn’t create the kinds of problems they do now. The drugs weren’t even illegal most of the time. It used to be the family unit that had to step in for an unwed pregnancy, and that probably had a lot to do with where the stigma came from, i.e. families created the social stigma since they didn’t want to wind up in that situation. They would provide the mother with feedback about the strain her actions caused them.
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
People are naïve and gullible, Alex Jones is not a leader and will not lead you or anyone into any war or conflict. His job is simple: His “shock-Jock” approach is designed to do 1 thing, hold the listening audience “attentive and captive “long enough to sell you all the crap on his website. Really people wake up; this is exactly what all media talking heads do for a living. Don’t expect Alex Jones to be a Brave Heart on the front lines. You will find yourself in deep s--- and alone. He has no followers; you are listeners, because he’s not leading you anywhere and has no upfront solution to offer.
He’s not gathering people to solve the problem; he creates an atmosphere of doubt and fear to sell you his products. You are a captive listening audience held together by fear that creates a Need to purchase unneeded crap. At this point anyone who doesn’t see that is just plain gullible. Problem, Reaction, Solution… All we have to do is : STOP PAYING TAX. It all Shuts down.. No guns requiered
cut the crap Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Would you like him to go on welfare? He runs an expensive operation, works hard, and has a family to feed. Funny how his predictions keep coming true. He does his homework.
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
This is just softening up the Americans for gradual genocide starting with the most weak and finishing up with the now strong and soon to be weak.
Draw the line, America!
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
@cut the cord who said “All we have to do is : STOP PAYING TAX. It all Shuts down.. No guns requiered” This is true but its one of those things where you wont get a good amount of ppl to do it at once that its just pointless. Kinda the wackjob who cut the guys head off on a full bus….everyone was waiting for someone else to get up and stop the wackjob…so no one got up. i agree that alex jones and this site play the role of the “shock-jock! now plz buy my random s---” people. and their articles often show how crazy they really are when they quote the Bible and post articles about absolutely nothing important like The First Lady giving the devil sign O f---ING NO!!!
as for this article…there are a lot of people who are not responsible when pregnant young and poor, young and rich….all can be irresponsible. The one chick who intentionally had 8 children while she already had like 6 others WHILE she was on WELFARE and recently got cosmetic surgery to look like a movie star—she is a good example of a poor irresponsible prego. now granted she is just mentally ill too…her financial situation put more responsibility on her hands because she cannot provide for them….she requires the rest of society to give her money to feed those kids all of which have some sort of severe mental / physical defect.
If anyone is unable to provide for their kids, they should not be allowed to have kids. BUT BUT BUT we must see that it is not always if ever their fault that they are poor (unless they are like crackheads or mentally ill…not fault on themselves…but not others too…they are the ones who just dont fit in) The gap between the rich and poor grows huge….costs rise while wages for the majority do not. It could come down to where its illegal to have a single kid if you are poor…but if its the BS greed of the rich elites that causes your financial situation you do deserve to have kids but i would not cause i want to be able to provide for them. Now if you lost all your money to gambling you do not deserve s---…f---ing retard.
but u see the pickle we are in? gotta look at all the reasonings. its not as simple as “if you cannot provide, don’t have kids” because its not always the peoples fault they cannot provide for kids they have…but they can decide, despite extreme desires to have kids, not to reproduce due to the inability to provide for what you create.
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Women on welfare and very low income have no damn business to keep bringing in more and more children…especially if they’re single…which most are. It’s disgusting seeing them running the streets and acting like spoiled brats. Here’s my message to single mothers; WAKE THE f--- UP! You’re all bringing kids into this messed up world without a father and no direction in life. I’ve met single women with 4-5 kids and none of them have the same father, and none of those fathers are around. Your asses should be knocked off of any kind of government assistance. Maybe, then, you might get it but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
The comments regarding this article speaks novels as to the mental condition of humans at this time. No government has the right to control the health care of anyone unless the citizen says they can. No where you pledge yourselves…people.
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
sterilize those cows….they’ll take a 1000$ payoff anyway, greedy c---s…
2 MAIN PROBLEMS IN THIS WORLD ARE GREED AND OVERPOPULATION….KILL ALL THE BROWN PEOPLE!
AND f--- THOSE THAT DISAGREE WITH ME!
The real Satan Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Are you kidding me?!? Overpopulation is awesome! Just think about all the exquisite suffering! Starvation, disease, lack of water, violence…I think I’m going to cum! You are much too soft to use my name!! To hell with you! Ha ha…just a little infernal humor…
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
sure are alot of self righteous self serving bastards up in here. Freedom. To hell with eugenics and your slavery. Scum.
Devils Advocate Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Agreed. Breed as much and as randomly as possible! That will show the Illuminati! Nothing like a bunch of unwanted low IQ kids running around!
-0- Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
lol
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
You cannot legislate morality. Females need to take responsibility for their own bodies. If you cannot afford a baby, do yourself and the baby a favor, don’t bring them into a welfare world where the state has you in their clutches for 18 years. A monkey could figure out that is how the government rules your whole life.
-0- Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
agreed!
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
s---! That’s 90% of the women in Tennessee!
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
This site offers explaination and a possible solution.
At very least it WILL make you think.
http://www.tpuc.org/
Buzz
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Hmm. There is a glaring contradiction here with infowars. First Infowars is anti-choice but now this article states that once a woman is pregnant her body is no longer her own. Funny, pro-choice supporters and activists state that a woman has a right to choose because her body is her own. Anti-choice(anti-abortion activists such as Infowars) states that a woman does not have a right to have an abortion because it’s killing innocent life. By that logic Infowars should be pro-choice because a woman’s body is her own and if she chooses not to have a baby and have an abortion that should be her right. So what is it Infowars? Does a woman own her body or not? If she does then she should have the right to have an abortion. If it’s not then it should have no problems with the new regulations set forth in Tennessee.
This is not only a question of editorial consistancy but also political philosophical consistancy. To be anti-abortion is to state that a woman’s body is not her own. Therefore the anti-abortion stance should be in tandem with that women should be subject to mandatory drug testing.
Abortion and reproductive rights is not only a gender and sexual issue but also a class issue. If abortion is outlawed it will restrict the right of poor woman since affluent women will always be able to find a doctor willing to perform an abortion if the price is right. By the same token, Infowars argues that poor woman would lose control of their own bodies with this proposal of mandatory drug tests. Affluent women would not be subject to such controls. Once again the question remains, where is the logical consistancy.
As much as I appreciate the information from Infowars, I cannot accept it’s sexual politics. To deny that abortion and reproductive rights is sexual politics is ignorant at best and hypocrisy at worst. I will not allow this to slide. If the editors and readers of Feminsting knew that Infowars was against abortion, there would be consternation and indignation. It is the epitome of hypocracy for Infowars to re-print this article while in other articles prints anti-abortion articles.
Be careful Infowars! Today’s allies in the United Front against fascism will be tommorrow’s enemies in the struggle for the true liberation of everyone.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Ugly women should not have children.
-0- Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
so why did your mother?
mayday Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
LOL
Vanishing Reply:
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
His dad was in on it too.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
A women’s body IS her own, but the baby is separate. We should care for BOTH!
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 pm
I don’t have children and could not be happier. People feel sorry for me, but I feel sorry for them and their kids.
March 4th, 2009 at 3:01 am
I cant believe all of the stupid, and, heartless posts on this thread….
HOW DARE YOU MOTHER/BABY HATEING CREEPS COMENT ON THIS THREAD WITH YOUR HALF BAKED EDUCATION ON THIS ISSUE….IN ORDER TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HEART LIKE A HAM AND A p.h.d. IN EVERYTHING…
WHICH MOST OF YOU ODVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE…..MOST OF YOU ARE JUST SUCKING EUGENICIST ASSS ….HOW DARE YOU PARROT THESE MONSTERS !
The rule here is,
If you error, error, on the side of Love….as if Your Own Daughter was pregnant, or your wife.
The hippy chicks got this one right, they wouldnt dream of going threw prenatel care at a stab em, and, slab em clinic, much less have a baby in a hospital
March 4th, 2009 at 3:25 am
If You dont want to have a baby and you think you might be pregnant, EMMIDIATELY fast for a day and drink some potent black cohosh tea….If that doesnt work, do it again, if that doesnt work, knitt bootys !!!!
OTHERWISE !
better to hang a millstone around your neck and jump into the nearest ocean than to hire a eugenisist to help you proform the satanic ritual of abortion, BAD JU JU !!…..
You know, with the clear plastic tubes, so you can wave by-by to Mommy.
ALSO
Cop/soldier types, and, other types of denial spirits LOVE to incarnate threw the channels of loveless sex to unsuspecting parents….Loveless sex is mostly “hidden agenda,” sex, with a hidden power play attatched…..due to the devil’s damage upon Us ALL, mostly, this is the only kind of sex being had right now….here in hell.
God help Us !!
March 4th, 2009 at 3:40 am
IT IS INTENT THAT IS ON TRIAL HERE ON EARTH
If those who have taken dominion OVER Us had LOVEING INTENT to do Us GOOD,
that would be one thing
But they DONT !
They see Us as bothersome things/ useless eaters, and, the cause of all of the problems,
and , they hate Our guts for a laundry list of reasons !!…..and, they hope to rid Earth of Our skathing asses as soon as they can…..they also want to distroy the evidence cause they know that God is comming
FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE….PLEASE
March 4th, 2009 at 3:57 am
If Woman had access to some decent HERB when She is pregnant She would 9 chances out of 10 never dream of doing drugs or alcohol while pregnant…Woman, ESPECALLY Pregnant Woman, are SACRED ! !!! PERIOD !!! AND SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITH THE BEST OF EVERYTHING
HATE THE EUGENISISTS AND THE DEVIL WHO PULLS HIS/HER STRINGS
NOT THE BEAUTIFUL, PREGNANT, DAUGHTER OF LIFE AND LOVE
SHE KNOWS NOTHING OF EVIL !
IF YOU ARE NOT DOWN WITH THAT THAN GET THE HELL OFF OUR MOTHER’S PLANET, AND, DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS ON THE WAY OUT !
March 4th, 2009 at 4:21 am
i GOT REALLY TRIGGERED BY THIS DRUG TESTING PREGNANT WOMAN ISSUE
THANK YOU ALL FOR RECIEVEING MY RAGE ON THIS HERE ISSUE
I was a midwife attendant and worked with a midwife for many years, We also did cancer cures We took on high risk pregnancy, cases, and, We never charged any money at all, donations only. We ran from one birth to another, back than.
Therefore
In the future paradise society that Our Mother has planned for this planet…
I AND OTHER MOTHERS IN GOOD UNIVERSE STANDING WILL BE THE ONES WHO STANDS IN RIGHTIOUS AND LOVEING INTENT IN PRAYER FOR THESE SACRED DAUGHTERS WHO RISK EVERYTHING….PARCHANCE TO LOVE….AND BE LOVED
LOVED BY HER JUST MATE
AND THE MANIFESTING HEART THAT BEATS BETWEEN THEM
Devils Advocate Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 9:54 am
You really need to take another hit off your bong and chill out. Your going to go into cardiac arrest for f---’s sake!
March 4th, 2009 at 10:37 am
April 15, 2009!!!!! – No work! No Buying! Cut a white T and wear the strip as an arm band. Hand out whats left! Go out on the streets and be seen. Rally! Protest!
Don’t listen to the people who’ll say a days lost productivity only hurts America! AMERICA IS ALREADY HURT! WOUNDED! If the illegals can do it, then BY GOD THE VICTIMIZED CITIZEN SLAVES CAN TOO! Maybe Alex won’t endorse it. Maybe George Norry won’t, maybe Gerald Celente won’t, maybe Peter Schiff won’t, maybe Steve Quayle or the 911 Truth movie salesmen won’t endorse it! BUT FOR THE LOVE OF AMERICA SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT!
TIME FOR PEACEFUL PROTEST AGAINST OUR OVER-REACHING OVER-SPENDING and totally DISCONNECTED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HIJACKED BY THE CABAL OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK THAT PRINTS OUR MONEY AND ASKS US TO IMPOSSIBLY GIVE IT BACK PLUS INTEREST IS RUNNING OUT! How much longer before the protest aren’t peaceful? This could be the last one but there has to be ONE before there can be a LAST ONE! AMERICA and any other country involved in this need to send the UNITED SHOUT that a central bank controlled by a wealthy elite WILL NOT OWN US! Please watch the video, feel it in your soul and do at least this ONE THING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YiwxQ8odk4
March 4th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
As a libertarian I hate to say I agree with this even though it is against my fundamental principals. First, if their low income and are/or have children who are recieving government transfer payment, then the Government be the babies daddy and the government has the right to test the women. I also would up it to serilize the women after birth if she has drug or alchohol dependencies. In addition I would sterilize women who are recieving government payments after having two babies and recieving government payments over a two year period. I would also up the anti and enforce DNA testing and make the man pay child support payments. If the man has two children and has missed a year of support payments, I would not put him in jail. Just sterilize him also!
cut the crap Reply:
March 4th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
This bill is not for just testing women on welfare. (1) No prenatal care; (2) Late prenatal care after twenty-four (24) weeks gestation; (3) Incomplete prenatal care; (4) Abruptio placentae; (5) Intrauterine fetal death; (6) Preterm labor of no obvious cause; (7) Intrauterine growth retardation of no obvious cause; (8) Previously known alcohol or drug abuse; or (9) Unexplained congenital anomalies.
Likewise, if the only way to stop crime is to watch everyone constantly, then you must be for that too – or not for it because that’s something that would bother you personally.
Drugs and pregnancy always existed but didn’t create the kinds of problems they do now. The drugs weren’t even illegal most of the time. It used to be the family unit that had to step in for an unwed pregnancy, not the govt, and that probably had a lot to do with where the stigma came from, i.e. families created the stigma since they didn’t want to wind up in that situation. They would provide the mother with feedback about the strain her actions caused them.
Control your fascism.
March 11th, 2009 at 12:31 am
W.Va. delegate proposed bill which would require random drug testing for people receiving welfare, food stamps, and unemployment
March 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
watch what u say i grew up without a dad he died when i was a child my mom did the best she can raising her 4 children it was not her fault i had gooberment assistance growing up but i didnt go out and use that as a excuse to do wrong to other never been in trouble well besides a pot possion charge but i dont respect any law thats not based on moral or ethical reasons hence why i smoke pot i dont drink im a good person so do not sit there and make it seem like all fatherlkess kids are there because of a irresponsible parent there is always 2 sides to every storie if u dont know the f---ing people then dont judge them drug test are not the answer and never will be u drug laws and drugs test are just a reason to strip u of your rights well whats left of them that is not all kids grow without a father end up with a low iq or to be trouble makes alot of u people posting on this story need to have a heart damn those are some meen coments
March 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
plz dont make this a religious forum ur entitled to your own thoughts but this isnt god forum truth is there is no god god is a tool used to control the masses by having people think jeesus will come down and save the day it keeps them from doing anything about it for example if u have a plumber coming over are going to unclog your drains yourself no your going to wait for the plumber jeesus is just the plumber that doesnt show if there was a god he f---ed up we all just created by aliens i have proof what happens when u take one animals from one ecosystem it belonged in and put it into a new ecosystem well that animal runs amok because the ecosystem was not ment for that species who here can honestly say with the overpopulation and the pollution that we were ment for any ecosystem here if we were naturally here we would have a natural meens other than viruses or each other to keep the population in a healthy number if we were put here by god suposidly then we would fit into the worlds ecosystems better
March 19th, 2009 at 9:00 am
I suggest we abolish the welfare system for unmarried moms. It should only be for the elderly and truly disabled, and so many of you little freedom fighters fight against the nanny state but are ok with the welfare nanny state that encourages destructive behavior. True freedom requires true responsilbity, and when these two things are no longer connected, you have total social collapse and gov. control. Why do we charge folks with two murders when a preggo woman is killed? It is because the state sees that child as an infant human whose “life” was taken away, so we cant say the kid is a human with a right to life only when it is convenient for mom. Either end this law and officially declare a fetus a non entity or consider a woman carrying a viable child a child abuser. YOu folks see this as a state threat, testing welfare gals for drugs? I say no more welfare. When one is pregnant, they test for all kinds of diseases cuz we want to treat possible issues early on. I wish one of you freedom fighters could see the monstrotsities these kids turn into cuz of momma’s drug use. I wish you could see the deformities and the shaking of newborns in withdrawal. YOu guys think this is soooo unfair, you personally need to support these women and let the scum stay in your house. I am afreaid of the police state as well, so I say lets end the welfasre nanny state and let folks be responsilbe without going to the Big Bad Brother you are all so scared of.
March 19th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Abolish welfare if you are all so against gov. tyranny and the police state. When one is on welfare, the state does have work and ed. rules, and they punish women for getting jobs or getting married. How come none of you complain about that? You are not forced to keep a child, and you are not forced into welfare. Lots of choices out there, but if you make the choice to do drugs and want a baby, you need to stop living off taxpayers.