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    Bob Barr
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    February 6, 2008

    With the announcement last month by Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff of the final implementing regulations for the much-delayed Real ID Act, the debate over this thinly veiled national identification card project moved into high gear.

    The federal government for several years now has been fighting a guerrilla action with citizen groups and a number of state legislatures over imposing on the states and the citizenry this privacy-intrusive and costly mandate. With the announcement Jan. 11 of the final regulations, the debate is fully joined and pits those who support the principle of states’ rights against the legions of Big Government advocates.

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    38 Responses to “Real ID Act a real intrusion on rights, privacy”

    1. Michael Melton Says:

      I am not getting it, they can shove it.. Once this is implemented it is only a matter of time before they finsish off the rest of our rights..They will have crossed the line with this act..

    2. Hey Mo Hey Mo Says:

      I’ve asked many people if they’ve heard of the real i.d. Guess what? Most people do not believe it. And, they said they would not get it if it was real.

      Hold your head up.

      And if it’s bad
      Don’t let it get you down, you can take it
      And if it hurts
      Don’t let them see you cry, you can take it

      Hold your head up, hold your head up
      Hold your head up, hold your head high

      And if they stare
      Just let them burn their eyes on you moving
      And if they shout
      Don’t let them change a thing what you’re doing

      Hold your head up, hold your head up
      Hold your head up, hold your head high

    3. Joseph Lamas Says:

      This Real ID topic is about 100% complete and total control over humans by an elite class intent on protecting global corporations and its own interests from anyone who might oppose them. Real ID will not assist in preventing ongoing corruption nor will it ensure equal justice under our currently tainted judicial process. Since it does nothing but place us all under totalitarian oppression it will ensure control of all our movements from city to city, state to state and even employer to employer. It is nothing more than a tool of racists to assist in fascist behavior. It will eventually be used to identify and kill those that the State deems unworthy.

    4. Johnnyup Says:

      Remember who else had a National ID card? Thats right ladies and gentleman, Nazi Germany. History really does repeat itself.

    5. bob Says:

      re: #4
      and a funny thing about Nazi Germany’s national ID system – the apparatus for its implementation was designed by IBM! Now isn’t THAT a little weird…

    6. sskid Says:

      Do not get one they can’t force the Government of the by the people shove it up,you NAZI moron scum bag satanic Queers pushing this.

    7. Johnnyup Says:

      And I work for IBM!? what are the odds of THAT!@#?@? haha, seriously though. The same people who were creating the Soviet fear in the 60’s are creating the terrorist fear NOW. People don’t even read about the past of their political leaders, they just buy into their fearmongering. But if you protest or disagree, you’re unamerican or an enemy of freedom. In my opinion, if youre not standing up to your government youre not doing enough for your country.

    8. jan Says:

      NOBODY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE ANYTHING INTO ANOTHERS BODY,
      GOD WILL PUNISH THEM IF THEY DO,keep listenning to ALEX jones…

    9. jan Says:

      Remember to avoid FLOURIDE,IN THE TOOTHPASTE AND WATER LET EVERYONE KNOW ABOUT IT AS THEY DUMB YOU DOWN,so you submit to their every whim..WE HAVE DECENCY AND LOVE ON OUR SIDE…they do NOT..morality is lacking on their side..DO NOT GIVE IN TO fear what is what they want you to do..LIGHT OVERCOMES darkness..and all they know is DARKNESS…they are pathetic

    10. Allen Says:

      1ST NATIONAL ID CARD
      2ND AN ELECTRONIC KIND OF CARD
      3RD AN ELECTRONIC KIND OF CHIP
      4TH A CHIP UNDER YOUR SKIN

      AMERICANS WAKE UP!!!! THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS!!
      I BELIEVE WITHOUT QUESTION THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ACCEPTED BY MANY IN TIME. THE GOV WILL SELL IT LIKE A LAMB BUT IT WILL BE A LION!!!

      ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE MASSES TO DESIRE THIS THING AS A WONDERFUL DETERENT TO TERRORISM BUT THEN IT WILL BE A NIGHTMARE.

      MARK MY WORDS. THIS IS THE WAY IT WILL HAPPEN, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

      DID THE DEVIL PUT A GUN TO EVE’S HEAD TO GET HER TO BITE. NO! HE PERSUADED HER AND SHE TOOK. SAME THING. THE APPARANT GAIN WILL SEEM TO OUT WEIGH THE LOSSES AND FOOLISH, DUMB SHEEP WILL BUY AND THEN ITS TOO LATE. I GARRANTY IT.

    11. jan Says:

      IF Alex Jones is operative , Who else can you trust to let you in on latest info?how do we then find out what is going on who is to let us know if it is not Alex? aRE THEY CALLING HIM HONEYPOT FOR CIA…TO PUT PEOPLE OF THE TRACK?

    12. marc Says:

      Coercion will be the way!! Oh you don’t want it? OK! that’s fine! Just dont expect to work, or drive
      or have healthcare, etc,etc… That’s the way it’s always been done and they know sonner or later the people will breakdown and get it! People will get tired of not being able to do the things there used to doing and will get sick of starving and living off the land or being jailed!!
      It’s very sad, but they know the needs of the human and they know too take them away when they want you to comply.. It makes me sick and oh so angry!!

    13. cowboy bob Says:

      after they stick it in, cut the f---ing thing out! people should think of ways of shielding their card! this can be done! why does everybody want to give opinions without solutions! REMEMBER IF YOU WATCHED THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL EPISODE ON THE PENTAGON. THE PENTAGON IS WRAPPED IN MYLAR! GEE WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS, OH, MAYBE TO BLOCK RADIO SIGNALS. TO THOSE OF YOU WHINNING AND WAITING ON GOD TO HELP, HE WONT. START TALKING ABOUT CONSTUCTIVE SOLUTIONS! USE YOUR f---ING BRAINS! EXPERIMENT WITH THIS STUFF, SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT WONT! LETS SHARE SOME IDEAS INSTEAD OF MAKE BELIEVE SITUATIONS, AND HOW MUCH OF A BIGGER BADASS SOMEONE CAN SOUND! I DONT GO BY WHAT PEOPLE SAY I GO BY THEIR ACTIONS AND SO FAR IM DISSAPOINTED WITH THIS DISCUSSION s---(WHINNING AND THREATS)!

    14. Firehammer Says:

      Okay…so I don’t take the Real ID driver’s license….then what.
      Who cares?
      They’re WRONG and I’m not inviting their program by submitting willfully.
      Screw ‘em.

    15. GABRIAL (DEATH) Says:

      I’ve talked to intel. insiders that say Alex’s children have been threatened; that is to say Alex was told his children would be targeted. That is why there are certain subtleties Alex must use, & why films like “DARK SECRETS INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE / ORDER OF DEATH” have had the faces of MAJOR dignitaries edited out of the film. I am (proverbially) WITH ALEX, ie. ON ALEX’S SIDE!
      Please understand… There is something in our CORRUPT govt. called “RISK MANAGEMENT-DAMAGE CONTROL”. A large part of what is involved in “RISK MANAGEMENT-DAMAGE CONTROL” are Federal employees who’s daily JOB is, to come in to come into work, sit down in front of a computer, & WIDELY traverse the INTERNET/info.SUPERhighWAY, search for blogs & forums of discussion, then DISSEMINATE DISINFORMATION, GET PEOPLE ANGRY, AFRAID, STEER THEIR THINKING, INCITE PANIC, ETC.
      ALEX IS NOT AN AGENT OF INFLUENCE FOR THE DOD, CIA, OR ANY OF THE “ALPHABET SOUP” ACRONYMS IN “WONDERLAND”. NEITHER IS ALEX A PROVOCATEUR.
      GOD BLESS
      VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
      WAKE UP FROM THE MATRIX! LEARN ABOUT SUBPOENA DEUCES TECUM, FICTION OF LAW-STRAWMAN!

      Graciously yours REDPILL BANDIT
      MinuteMan, Patriot, Anti N.W.O. Soldier, Investigator, Lover

      PS. GOD BLESS ALEX JONES & THE WHOLE JONES CREW & CLAN!

    16. Anthony Says:

      I WILL NOT accept REAL I.D. I WILL NOT use it. I WILL NOT condone it. I WILL NOT obey.
      YOU should NOT accept REAL I.D. YOU should NOT condone it. YOU should NOT obey.

      Learn from history. NAZI Germany labeled and numbered the JEWS and look what Hitler had planned for them. These are the same tactics, different decade, different faces, SAME s---!

      DISOBEY.

    17. Watchman Says:

      @ jay lee

      of course he’s not a threat to the NWO. Who is the NWO or the government anyways? They are people and people are individuals and individuals have faces. It is time to name names! But i have to agree the government needs an outlet for all the bad things they do or have planed. There is no better way as to use a conspiracy radio show. it’s like ”bad news is good news” kind of a precondition. You will get used to it. alex jones is good for them then all he does is talk. it is like –
      wake up and go back to sleep. the real deal was ‘cooper’ , he was dead on except his alien stories. that’s why they killed him.

    18. Watchman Says:

      … the world does not change because of information or an infowar! the world changes because there are people they take actions. like signing the “real id act” or killing ‘KFJ’ or bombing irak. the world is in the hand of the devil spirits which got JESUS killed too. that is what JESUS wants to tell us. It is all a game ! believe in God he will be back!

    19. Terrorscam Says:

      We are change. Life’s a test. Some planets will pass the test, others will fail. Just like some people pass the test, but most seem to fail.

      If the planet wakes up, we will all do well. If it doesn’t, either we’ll go down with “stupid,” or possibly some of us we be refugees elsewhere…, to try it again.

    20. betrayed Says:

      Jay Lee is right,

      Alex never likes to talk about his affair with Grays, who he betrayed for a couple of pieces of silver.

      I hope the Real ID comes soon, then perhaps it would be easier to catch illegal aliens, round them up and put them in concentration camps, that’s what you would like don’t ya Alex…. enemy of the working people.

    21. Alan Says:

      I dont know man
      i dont like this id thing at all
      im suppose to have a id at school but i dont carry it with me man cuz i dont believe in it
      why should i be labeled on a card
      but arnt these real id coming in may or something?

    22. Bubba Says:

      I am very interested to see what kind of ID I will get in May of this year and whether or not I must prove that I am a citizen of the U.S. like I did when I was 15 1/2 many years ago. Kentucky has not protested the National ID. I hear it’s supposed to start in May. Very interesting. I already qualified for a U.S Passport so I can visit Canada. What else do they want?

    23. JOHN STEEL Says:

      bob barr is a c.i.a. employee,be very careful of him.

    24. Reb Says:

      Real ID is an insidious evil, spent three days recently in the Pa capital educating polyticks about Real ID AND animal ID,different programs ,same parisite behind both programs, If you want to know more about these threats drop Aaron Bolinger a line at discipleaaron@hotmail.com (Aaron is the fella who helped write the SC law that banned Real ID there),we have biult quite a coalition of groups all opposed to this junk) he is now here in Pa and we have been starting anti Real ID and animal Id groups all over the states,check and see if theres one in your area or maybe you can be the person to start one,we need y’all to beat this facsist govt and to preserve liberty,tell Aaron” Reb” sent you, thanks
      “Live free or die tryin”

    25. Al Koppel Says:

      Homeland Security is nothing more than the Nazi Gestapo created after the destruction of our American Constitution, and the same lawless animals called “Swine!” by the Germans while these vermin destroyed their country.

      Real I.D. is nothing more than the same hideous despicable crimes they committed on the Germans in what was their republic: Is it so different than tattooing numbers on their forearms to mark them, the Germans, or our U.S. citizens, for death? And that now travailed upon us not for having broken non-laws, after their German Parliament and our American Constitution were demolished, but for being identified intelligent and capable to do away with dissent against the destruction of their country, and ours! -Al Koppel.

    26. euripedes pants Says:

      you know, i hear people talk an read the words typed in comment forums. it would seem that most agree that this country has not been “free” for quite some time. but we are lost in a huxley novel and simply retelling the mantras with little comprehention of what they mean. “land of the free” “home of the breave” “a gram (of prozac) is better than a damn” and so on and so on.
      the question is… what are we prepared to do about it?
      our leaders are deaf to our plight, the system is built to defeat us, and even though we have the numbers…we would rather type in chat forums or the “blogosphere” what ever the hell that means.
      regardless, im reminded of an old cliche. TALK IS CHEAP. in france (which for some reason americans think the french are weak or whatever) they have NATIONAL GENERAL STRIKES ove labor issues or the like. americans would rather play video games or watch TV about lousy people doing stupid things, or throw away things made of plastic than stand up for themselves.
      but who am i to type? im just a faceless tough guy with a keyboard and a screen. just like the rest of you.

    27. Anonymous Says:

      If you watch TV you have certainly seen the VISA commercials, everything is going smooth then the guy pulls out cash and screeech it all screws up. They have just started advertising the PRECURSOR to the hand chip. People have already pretty much accepted the debit card, it’s quick and easy. Now this new ad you don’t even have to swipe it, just hold the card over the box. It has a chip in it. They’re testing the waters for this and once people accept it the next will be a ring, or a hand chip.

    28. The Truder-theleviathen@hotmail.com Says:

      It’s funny, they think these frequent and random spam attacks on the website is going to solve something. It’s amusing mostly, and a clear sign how big of a threat this site is to the nwo.
      We Will Survive!

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