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Resolutions to affirm U.S. Constitution cause uproar
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DANIEL PERSON
Bozeman Daily Chronicle
February 26, 2009
HELENA – Two resolutions to affirm the U.S. Constitution failed to get traction in the House this week, but they sure kicked up a lot of mud.
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House Joint Resolution 26, sponsored by Rep. Michael More, R-Gallatin Gateway, and House Joint Resolution 24, sponsored by Rep. Joel Boniek, R-Livingston, would have gotten state representatives on the record opposing what the sponsors said were excesses of the federal government.
HJ24 sought to urge Congress to “adopt a constitutional, sustainable, and sound monetary system and cease further credit creation and borrowing.” HJ26 aimed to affirm states’ rights and condemn “encroachment of those rights by the federal government and executive orders.”
Resolutions do not carry the weight of law but stand as official statements by Montana’s elected bodies.
Both the resolutions had a tumultuous ride through the legislative process.
Introduced late in the process, Democratic Speaker of the House Bob Bergren first intended to “desk-veto” the measures, a maneuver in which the speaker does not assign a bill or resolution to a committee for a vote.
Last Friday, Bergren said he did not want to burden committees that were wrapping up their work with more legislation and hearings.
That drew fire from Republican leaders, who said all pieces of legislation deserve a hearing. In the face of Republican protest, Bergren scheduled a House Judiciary meeting for Monday afternoon.
With the full House scheduled to meet all day, the committee had little time to hear the resolutions, which brought into the Capitol passionate support from around the state. Emotions were high when people who had driven hundreds of miles to testify in favor of the resolutions were told to keep their testimony under two minutes.
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February 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
it’s all lies. Incredibly wicked deception.
Why Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
You are so right, Frank.
Harpie Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 7:29 am
l PROUD OF YOU no more dreams and the many others like us from around the globe.
From Harpie in Australia
me too Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 3:08 am
er, What’s all lies…?
February 26th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I’m afraid you’re right, Frank. They’re sure sucking in a lot us, though. Right into the trap.
February 26th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Here’s our future. dont be afraid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DM8Vc8gS8
Gary Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Either that or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TdpxOXuYw
Gary Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Well, crap. It was the “Road Warrior” trailer.
patriot Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
ok..i definitely get the point but that band was horrible
February 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
These are the same “REPRESENTATIVES” who took an OATH to SUPPORT and DEFEND the CONSTITUTION ??? By Article 6, Members of Congress are BOUND BY OATH to SUPPORT and DEFEND the CONSTITUTION:
“I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Fuckin’A right!!! I NEVER Disavowed my oath to the Constitution!!!! Fuckin’ maggots!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
Roark Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
There are problems staring America right in the face and its in this oath…….. find them and you’ll save America from its Tribalism.
Time For Johnnie Reb Again Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
There is NO HONOR in supporting the secular humanist MONEYCHANGER/MASONIC “CONSITUTION” THAT PUT THE MONEYCHANGERS AND MASONS INTO POWER (230 YEARS AGO) IN THE FIRST PLACE! ABOLISH THE WHOLE SYSTEM, THEN START OVER WITH AN HONEST OPEN FORM OF GOVERNMENT BASED ON INTEGRITY AND TRUE LEADERSHIP FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE, RATHER THAN TRYING TO KEEP THIS DAMN MONEYCHANGER/MASONIC SYSTEM GOING! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
vet4life63 Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
The only way obama is going to avoid a revolt now, is if he walks out of the white house, walks out onto the whitehouse lawn, puts his head between his own legs and kisses his own Arse. After that he needs to apologize to the American people for the fraudulent Governement we have had for so long, and return the government back to the peoples control instead of the corrupt politicians and bankers. If he does that, a revolt may be avoided, if he does it not, he will wish he had.
ty g Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
ron paul bro…………..
February 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
What a horrible way to die. Did you catch that second comment from “Alias” below the article? That said EVERYTHING! Only God can help us.
Warship Reply:
February 28th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Yeah but there comes a time when you have to put wheels on your prayers…..
February 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
It sure appears that we now have and have had for a long time, a congress that is dead set on doing absolutly nothing unless it is something against the constitution. Both the previous republican majority and the current democratic majority do not do anything unless it goes toward destroying our constitutional rights. Our military has become nothing but some very small paid mercenaries that will do anything for their tiny salaries. Protecting the constitution from enemies of the constitution is a bad joke.
When Prescott Bush attempted to recruit a U.S. general in a coup against the U.S. that general turned him in and exposed Prescott’s plan.[why he was not executed is a mystery] Today it is obvious that someone like Prescott Bush has succeeded in infiltrating our congress and other parts of our government.
I would bet that there is well defined legal cause for either the U.S. military or the U.S. malitia to go in and start arresting a lot of our elected officials and their subordinates. We just simply do not have any leaders with either the means or courage to do so. The folks with the courage to do so live week to week and sure could not afford tanks,helicopters and fighters. The military members are there only for a salary, so they will not bite the hand that feeds them.
godbluff Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Not only was he not executed, but his douchebag son, and his douchebag son’s, son were put into the most powerful office in the world. How’s that for justice? This country is in a sad state of affairs.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
So by them not upholding and reafirming are they not commiting treason?
Get rid of all the slobs that do not adhear to our Founding Documents and send them to China or Mexico, just get them out.
Let freedom ring.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Such flagrant disrespect towards states rights shows us exactly the mentality of what was our “US Congress”. “Desk-veto” the constitutional concerns of an entire state, silence the opposition. Say one thing, do the opposite. Reads like a page out of Mein Kampf. Here’s your “Fair and Balanced” news byte: The Big Lie is in and as long as each of you hold unwavering faith in an out-of-control bureaucracy (Obama history books call it democracy), the Big Liar will keep on lying…
Fluoride is for your teeth, the ‘recession’ will end by the end of the year, corn-based ethanol is a technological environmental miracle. Now that I mention it, corn syrup isn’t loaded with mercury, its good for you! You have to spend money to get out of our nation’s debt. It’s called Keynesian economics, and it’s totally legitimate, since it’s “worked” for so long. Nah, the nation’s national service won’t be mandatory; you can ignore those “IT errors” when we had to erase the words “mandatory service” from our platform site. Those aren’t FEMA plastic coffins they are giant FEMA rubbermaid containers to keep food from spoiling. Those aren’t rail-cars with shackles built in, those are wheel lock shackles for FEMA emergency vehicles. No we don’t capitalize on panic and fear, we represent hope and change! No, no Gaithner was just using sarcasm when he said he’d never ‘waste’ a crisis for political gain. These officials just use high IQ humor you peons, I mean hard-working Americans, can’t possibly understand. Just calm down, read a book Oprah tells you to and drink an environmentally friendly glass of tap water that’s not toxic, I swear, and it’ll all be alright. ::eyes glaze over:: Don’t you love Bureaucracy too!? I love standing in more and more lines to keep hordes of power-tripping grunts from hitting me with sticks and tasers ands fines I can’t afford wherever I go, all for doing things that previously had no paperwork or electronic records or fines. You’ve just been MONETIZED!
February 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND!!!! WOW! MIND BLOWING!
WARNING: THIS DOCUMENT BELOW THEY TRIED TO SUPRESS
AND BAN! DOWNLOAD IT, READ IT, AND SHARE IT WITH AS MANY
PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE FAST! OBAMA IS A FRAUD!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/1284…..Real-Obama
Why Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Get out of here you freak! Your the same guy who says Obama is the antichrist in bold type.
Idiot!
Bad Slave Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
He is COINTELPRO. I am somewhat insulted. Is this the best they can do? Rotate a new G-man in. This one is an amateur.
Line in the sand Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I agree:
Hay Gov we know all your school boy frat BOY games.
You In the NSA do one of two things!
(1)->have some paid troll in your ranks(Traitor) to spread disinfo or such!
(2)->find some usefull LOW IQ fool to spead disinfo!
We see right thrue the lies now and are not going to BITE~:
So BITE ME or come for me:G
Beware of the BUBBA EFFECT->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboYxvv1jYc
February 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Ok,so now that there is a democrat running things now all of a sudden the republicans want to adhere to the constitution….Where were they when GWB was gutting the constitution?????PS,not a fan of either party!
living0history Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
good call but both sides are scum!
John Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Second the motion “Both Major Parties are Scum!” Motion to introduce language “both Dems and Reps are scum,” into resolution?
Gary Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
That’s actually a very good clue to what is really happening, Mike. This whole “Sovereignty” thing is a smokescreen, a fiction designed to distract and misdirect. It supposed to make us feel we are winning and get us to “revolt” openly – so they can then institute martial law.
Ditto Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Yes and you know what,they’ll get their martial law one way or the other,so a revolt will happen regardless.
February 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
JUST some piece of paper
Fluttering down from a tower in free fall
Lon Chaney?
February 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
http://www.ExposingChristianity.com
Contrary to what most people have been indoctrinated with, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are relatively new religions. Humanity goes back tens of thousands of years. These three have worked relentlessly to keep us from spiritual knowledge and using this power, of which all of us have.
February 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
My heart sunk reading Mr. Bergren’s sad remarks. Such an effort put forth! What an utter disgrace the response he got. Evil doers will have their reward on judgement day.
————
Awesome Song! My personal mantra
Foo Fighters- Pretender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKhnmUdmz74
You’re the pretender! What if i say I’ll never surrender!!!!!
February 26th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
If this were a resolution confirming Israel’s right to exist- these Knesset-occupied dual national whores would be prostrate with their lips to the ground.
But America’s right to exist? Congress can’t be bothered. The American citizens showed their concern for their nation on Nov 5 when they revoted all these Congressional whores right back in.
April 15, we’ll see Americans again pay their taxes to a government that bailouts out the same people who are destroying us. Each dollar builds a FEMA camp, kills an Iraqi kid and funds the zio-banker so that the West Bank settlers can have swimming pools and boutiques while we live in tents neath an underpass.
Tax payment=Death.
bangflop Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
What I find amusing is this old tired argument that if we didn’t pay taxes the gov would cease to wage war and would collapse. In your dreams, the gov doesn’t need our tax money. They make us pay taxes to show us who is master who is slave. But as far as need. Hogwash. All they need to do is push that trillion dollar button and poof, there is another trillion. Kinda like that Easy button from Staples. So please refrain from the nonsense that we have the power through our tax dollars, as nothing can be farther from the truth.
j Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Are you guys idiots? Do you HONESTLY think the ‘government’ can print money without having to pay for it? Since you already know, apparently, that the FED is privately owned, it shouldn’t be that much of a mental stretch to figure out that a private firm isn’t going to provide you with a product/service without making a profit. What is that profit? INTEREST Where does the profit get paid from? TAXES!
You really think that taxes aren’t important to the government? Try not paying them.
True Patriot Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
smashthe you do know you make the entire freedom movement look like idiots. Please go away and leave us alone so that we can win this one and boot out the Brits once and for all!
February 26th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Purely a partisan political conspiracy to allow further Federal assaults in attempt to destroy the States sovereignty. Which the Democratic political base is totally ignorant. What are they afraid for freedom, liberty, justice. I knew that.
February 26th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Be wary of this Soverignty movement people. This soverignty movement all of a sudden sprung up out of no-where, politicians dont move that fast unless they are being pushed by a force bigger than them, to them the people arent big. I do like the notion that this movement is growing fast and I do pray it is for real but my heart is saying its just a clever ruse. A method of rallying the patriot movement back into the left-right trap. “Ohh the left is screwing us and the right is for the constitution lets run to them!” Let them pass these resolutions, but remember, they still have to act on them. Asume they will not act on it. The plan is as always, wait, inform, and prepare. A state government can trash a persons right as much as the federal government does. Please be wary. Be safe.
Apostle Reply:
February 26th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I agree. Something about this stinks. I don’t know what it is yet but time will tell. This thing came out of nowhere and I can’t recall ever hearing anyone ask to join an effort to get these resolutions passed or to participate in getting the message out about them.
I was hopefull when I heard of the first one but now it’s just too uncanny that all the states are doing it at the same time.
Just because your paranoid it doesn’t mean the aren’t watching.
February 26th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I live in mt. and I say its all lies. If he gave a fuck he wouldn’t allow chemtrails and flouride.
February 26th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.
February 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Cops on our side.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/vk2k.shtml
February 26th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
There will be Constitutional money or there will be a re-enactment of 1776 IMO.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
We also need to stop funding items on the local level, like tasers. County courts, as in Dekalb County GA is one of the most corrupt in the Nation. How can a cop charge one with improper license when he has no authority in another state to do so? How can a cop say he saw me run a stop sign when he could not see beyond the trees and shrubs? How can the courts just intimidate a guilty plea with a Hitler legal document that the court threatens jail if one does not sign it and lie. THIS IS THE KIND OF CRAP I WILL PUBLISH IF NOT ABOLISHED. I am still fighting the illegal tickets and will continue until the tickets are dropped! Unfortunately most people who are unjustly ticketed just send the money in to pay these parasites. I don’t pay their salaries with my taxes to be my enemies and behave like mad men/women! Americans must repent to GOD or lose our constitutional courts altogether.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Ya, sure would be a bother to those marxist,er,representitives to have to reaffirm the constitution,well those worthless commie morons may not have taken their oath seriously but I do! and I will!
February 26th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Washington State Declaring Total Sovereignty
In the state of Washington, house and senate bill HJM-4009 declares:
“The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States specifically provides that, [T]he powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people; and the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being those powers specifically granted to it by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and… [F]ederalism is the constitutional division of powers between the national and state governments and is widely regarded as one of America’s most valuable contributions to political science….”
HJM-4009 goes on to state: “Many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and WHEREAS, The United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and WHEREAS, A number of proposals from previous administrations and some now being considered by the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States….”
And here’s the resolution: “NOW, THEREFORE, Your Memorialists respectfully resolve:
(1) That the State of Washington hereby claims sovereignty under HJM 4009 p. 2 the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States; and
(2) That this serve as a Notice and Demand to the federal government to maintain the balance of powers where the Constitution of the United States established it and to cease and desist, effective immediately, any and all mandates that are beyond the scope of its constitutionally delegated powers.”
“BE IT RESOLVED, That copies of this Memorial be immediately transmitted to the Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives of each state’s legislature of the United States of America, and each member of Congress from the State of Washington.”
“In other words, the state of Washington is telling Washington, DC and the other 49 states that the federal government should take a walk and not interfere in matters of that state,” quips Mike Baker.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:45 am
See ya all on the fema camp bus!!!
Francis Marion Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Nope.
Better get off quick, friend.
She’s about to go up in flames
along with the cockroaches driving it.
1776 in 2009!
February 27th, 2009 at 11:34 am
We need somebody to print up Constitution Tee shirts. Put them out in the city streets for $3 bucks just to get the dumb public to wear them.
Tesla Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Just put Obama’s face on it and everyone will be wearing it tomorrow.
John Reply:
February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Will also boost sales of “Im with Stupid,” Tees.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
“ONE”…
exactly the number of your brain cells,
NorthCom toad.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
More of your “peaceful” protests, yet again TOTALLY SABOTAGED! By the time all you PACIFISTS REALIZE THAT PEACEFUL PROTEST DOES NOT WORK AND NEVER WILL AGAINST THIS KIND OF EVIL WE ARE FACING, IT WILL BE TOO LATE TO REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITUATION! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
The question that arises from this article is, WHY have they waited until now to try and get such resolutions passed? They should have considered this type of legislation DECADES ago. Better still, the fools that were in Congress back in the teens, 20’s and 30’s should have NEVER even considered what Rockefeller & Co. (ie the Internationalist Banking Cartel that became known as “The Fed”) had to say. Those political clowns thought they could “reinvent the wheel” and somehow “improve” on what the founding fathers set in motion. Such is the way of man. His “sin and sloth” blinds him to the truth, moves him to “remove the ancient landmark which his fathers have set” contrary to the admonition of scripture to NOT do so (Proverbs 22:28), and then, when he FINALLY realizes the consequences of such an erroneous judgment, this causes him to finally act AFTER the fact, in the face of imending doom, when it’s TOO LATE! Like the old saying goes, “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do NOTHING.” Sad but true. Sleep on America! Your Judge cometh soon, and your judgment is certain! You’ve forsaken your true King and settled for self. Now, “pay day” is at hand!
February 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
I like the ak47 it seems far more durable and deadly than the m16 I think everyone should have one and lots of mags full of ammo……. lets start using our collective energy for freedom not imperialism…… I think you know a good target were all dead if we do were all dead if we dont can I get a goddamn semper fi
March 1st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
fcuk o”BAAAA”ma + his zio-neo-scum criminal cronies !!!
Info-Warriors …………………………. victory or death !!!!!!
It’s revolution time
March 1st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
If states were serious about asserting State Sovereignty then perhaps they should start issuing one ounce Sterling silver State Sovereigns, with no denominational value, as a “barter” exchange medium to replace the phony paper currency issues by the private “Federal Reserve” banks. If they started paying State employees with silver, then the employees could exchange them for the fiat paper currency if they chose to do so.
If the states choosing to express their Sovereignty take any of Obama’s alleged loans and bail out monies then they should demand that their state be paid in Sterling Silver and not in “Federal Reserve” notes.
To have sovereignty states must have control over their own financial systems, and that begins with having an exchange medium based upon real values; not upon printing press runs of criminal collusion.
As the saying goes; “Get Real People”
Talk is nothing, action is everything.
The Aging Observer
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 am
We’ve got to keep pushing, we cant stand down now…