Infowars
September 22, 2008
Alex interviewed Jim Marrs on his KLBJ show on Sunday, September 21, 2008.
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AJ: Ladies and gentlemen, on this radio show and on the weekday radio show you’re going to find out from the true experts what is happening with the economy. And it isn’t my opinion. As John Wayne said: “No brag, just fact.” If you go and you look at the evidence in the book I wrote back in 2002, 9/11, Descent into Tyranny, the last chapter lays out how in the next eight years, and we’re now six years into that, how they would artificially implode the debt, restrict the credit, and then “have a bailout” that basically bankrupted the people of the world to the IMF and World Bank and to the private families that own the private Federal Reserve and the IMF and World Bank.
So this is the big scam. The banks can’t trick you to take out a loan on a farm you can’t pay because what they really want is that land. The banks can’t trick you to sign away your birthright and your children’s future. But they can go buy off your government, militarize your police and military, generationally, while they get the wealth off the control they have in the earlier sets of the Ponzi scheme, and then come in and bring in total tyranny.
And this is what they have done. So this is not a bail-out you are seeing. This is mass raping of the economy. This is done by design, and they are moving in army brigades so that when you really find out what’s happening, when you riot because they’ve taken your pension fund and destroyed your future, they can use microwave guns and machine guns down the street.
Now the good news is, most of the military and police I’ve talked to are now aware of this because of people like Jim Marrs and myself and others who have been out there warning people, so they are not going to go along with it.
I wish this wasn’t the truth, but it’s really happening.
Now, it’s been said many different ways by many different historians and people of note, philosophers, that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. And if one wants to understand the present and the future, they’d have a grasp of history because humans tend to act the same; there’s nothing new under the sun, and the same scams get developed, the same ideas, the same mindsets. And if you study the Nazis and you study Fascism in Italy and Germany, and if you learn who the players were in the United States, England and Germany, who funded the fascists and the communists, and when you read books by Carroll Quigley, the top Georgetown professor and Bill Clinton’s mentor, he explains it in a 900-page book how the big banks funded the fascists and the communists, and they created a dialectic. They control the left/right. And then you think you have a choice, but it’s a controlled choice.
But they are going with the fascist model right now. They brought down the communist model in ’91. That got them some control and domesticated the population. Now they are going with the fascist model.
Now don’t think of a Nazi as a guy with a mustache. I have a picture here I drew on the front of Newsweek, “What Bush Got Right,” and I drew a little mustache on him. And you know we can joke about that all day, but he is just a puppet. But his grandfather was the head U.S. Nazi in the United States, and that was even in the New York Times 50 some years ago. So Jim Marrs, best-selling author, wrote the book Crossfire on JFK, helped write the screenplay and was the main consultant on that film. His new book, The Rise of the Fourth Reich is a New York Times best-seller, available everywhere and as well at Infowars.com, along with the film I made four years ago about the same subject. But he’s got 100 times more detail, and it is shocking.
And so when the Nazis were brought to the U.S. when Germany fell, they were coming back home. They were coming from where they’d sprung. And that’s why they were put in charge of not just NASA but every other major agency. And so now you’ll understand what’s really happening.
For the rest of the show, Jim, you’ve got the floor. I’ll be throwing a few questions out, but start at the beginning for us.
JM: Well, actually you could probably go back into the 1800s into the Rothschild mode of banking where they pitted the European nations against each other for profit and control. But let’s just go to the Russian Revolution of 1917. When that happened, Woodrow Wilson, who was president of the United States at the time, wrote that the bulk of financial aid to Russia at that time did not go to the Democratic Kerensky government; it went to the Bolsheviks who became the communists. So we created the communists, or Wall Street bankers and Bank of England bankers created the communists in 1917.
Lenin was not even in Russia; he was in Switzerland. He was aided in passing through war-time Germany with German intelligence and a German banker including Max Warburg. The reason Max Warburg is interesting is because his brother Paul Warburg started the Federal Reserve, had come over here, participated in the conspiracy of Jekyll Island, had created the Federal Reserve system, and was head of the Federal Reserve system at the time of WWI and in fact was in charge of funding the war effort for the U.S. in WWI. And his brother is funding the German war effort, to show you how they play both sides.
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AJ: Now, hundreds of books have been written about this. It’s mainline history. It’s now declassified that the U.S. government put Mao in. But a lot of leftists are going, “What do you mean the bankers funded the communists?” Explain that to them.
JM: Well, they sent the aid to Lenin, and whoever pays you money controls it. The philosophical leader of communism was Leon Trotsky, and then in 1917 he was living on Rockefeller land and working in New York. But they put him on a boat with about $40 million, raised from Wall Street capitalists including the Schiffs, and 300 revolutionaries, and they sent him off to Russia. Now the Canadian authorities stopped him at Halifax and said, “We’ve heard your speeches and we know you’re going over into Russia and taking over and creating a communist government, and you’re going to pull Russia out of the war, and that’s going to free 1 million soldiers to come over and fight our good Canadian boys in the West. So we’re not going to let you go.”
But he got loose. How? Because Winston Churchill, who was Lord of the Admiralty at the time, said, “No, you need to let him go.” And Woodrow Wilson, through his mentor Colonel House, gave him an American passport.
So Trotsky was released, sent to Russia, and along with Lenin created communism in Russia.
Now, Alex, I think the game plan was, they were going to create a socialist East and they were going to pit it against a capitalist West for what we came to know as the Cold War. But what happened, the communists created the Internationale, and they said, Workers of the World Unite! And they created very powerful communist parties in Italy, France, Germany, Britain, the United States, so these capitalists were going, “Wait a minute, we don’t want this. If it becomes one world socialism, then we can’t play off one nation against another or one block against another.”
So they decided they had to stop the spread of communism. So to achieve that, they reached into Germany, the one country in the middle of Europe that was in a position to stop the theological and military spread of communism. They found a German army intelligence agent, who they funded and helped create the National Socialist German Workers Party, and of course that was Adolph Hitler.
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| Nazis, or National Socialists, are no different than communist socialists. | |
And you’ve got to remember that NAZI is an acronym for National Socialist. And National Socialists are really no different than communist socialists, the only difference being that you could confine them within one national boundary, and you could keep it within Germany, within Italy. That way the bankers could continue to play off one country against another. So that led up to WWII.
AJ: That’s mainline history that the Nazi party was founded and run by German intelligence, funded by British intelligence and Lord Milner’s group. So the whole thing was run out of Britain; and Britain right up into the war was running Germany.
It’s common knowledge that the U.S. and England funded Hitler, but he was like a rock star. He was all over the newsreels, all over radio. My grandfather remembers growing up in Dallas and he was in the newspapers, on radio, what a great guy he was, right up until 1939 or so.
Jim Marrs, continue because this then connects into today, and this isn’t like, ‘Oh, there’s a few Nazis in the government.’ This is the governing system! The Nazi symbols are in the Senate, the Fascia; it’s how the government is being run, the black uniforms, the national police force, the Homeland. That’s what Hitler called it was the Reich land, which means Homeland.
Jim Marrs, please continue.
JM: Well, let me just preface by quickly pointing out to everyone that’s listening that when we say “fascists and Nazis are taking over in the United States,” we’re not talking about goose-stepping Germans. No. The Germans lost the war. We’re talking about the National Socialists that funded the Nazis, put them in power, kept them power, and then brought them over here after the war.
I’ve already rattled off some of the corporations that were supporting the Nazis prior to the war: Brown Brothers Harriman, the JF IBM. IBM produced very specialized punch cards for the German IBM equipment that allowed them to ship all the Jews and the dissidents off to the concentration camps. General Motors, Ford, they were producing war materials for the Nazis because business after all is just business.
AJ: In fact our bombers weren’t allowed to bomb those GM and Ford plants, turning off Panzers.
JM: I read an account of a German worker at the General Motors plant, said when they had a bombing raid everybody would run to the General Motors plant because they knew it was safe.
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| Operation Paperclip brought Nazis to the United States. | |
In 1936 Time Magazine referred to Schroeder, Rockefeller and Company, investment bankers, as the “economic booster of the Rome/Berlin Axis. And their attorneys were two fellows from the New York law firm Sullivan and Cromwell, John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles’s mentor was John J. McCloy, chairman of City National Bank which is now Citicorp, and John J. McCloy sat with Hitler in his box at the 1936 Berlin Olympics.
AJ: And those guys go on to be the CIA director, and then they are tied into the assassination of Kennedy.
JM: Right. After the war, John J. McCloy gets to be the high commissioner of Germany, and he pardons about 100,000 Nazis and sends them to the United States. His protégé, Allen Dulles, was the longest serving CIA director, and through the CIA and through Operation Paperclip which went under the radar of Presidents Eisenhower and Truman, they were never made fully aware of what they were really doing. They altered and whitewashed the backgrounds of thousands of these Nazis, changing it from an ardent Nazi to not an ardent Nazi, enrolled them into the CIA.
And then on top of that we had the Gayland Organization which was General Reinhart Gayland (sp), a Nazi, who was providing us all of our early intelligence data on the Soviet Union. So no wonder we had a Cold War. We were getting all our information about Russia from an anti-communist underground filtered through a Nazi organization. And that’s when, in 1947, they began to create a National Security state here within the United States. And it started with the rocket scientists, the mind control experts, the CIA, but then it rolled into the defense industries, and then into the universities which were packed with some of these same people. Psychiatry was a big center. They brought all the German psychiatrists over here.
AJ: But for every Nazi they had others who in many cases the Nazis were actually protégés of. It’s important to add that the Nazis in many respects were the protégés of a eugenics elite already in England and the U.S.
JM: That’s exactly right. The first major eugenics study – “eugenics” being the study of heredity, of racial purity, who’s your daddy –
AJ: Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that he was a student of “experts in the U.S.” That’s where he got it all.
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JM: Exactly. In fact the first major eugenics foundation in the United States was set up by Mrs. E. F. Harriman, and it was her husband Edward Harriman who was the protector and mentor of Prescott Bush. Prescott Bush was a director of Union Banking Corporation and was a focal point for handling the money from steel magnate Fritz Tyson to Adolph Hitler. Tyson has publicly taken credit for funding Hitler to a large extent, and Prescott Bush was handling the money.
AJ: He wrote the book, I Paid Hitler.
JM: Exactly. In late 1942, Prescott Bush was even prosecuted by the federal government of the U.S. under the Trading with the Enemies Act for being nothing but a Nazi financial front man. And of course now we’ve had two of – his son George Herbert Walker Bush, former president of the U.S., and his grandson is now president of the United States. In fact, if you think about it, we’ve got the president of the United States whose grandfather was prosecuted as a Nazi front man; we’ve got the governor of the most populous state in the country Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose father was Nazi storm trooper, a party official. We’ve got Karl Rove who’s widely known as Bush’s Brain whose grandfather built concentration camps for the Nazis. And we have a pope who as a young man in Poland was a member of the Hitler Youth. It makes you wonder who really won the war.
AJ: Well, they had the giant rail cars full of diamonds, everything. That was brought into Texas, because my grandfather worked for the oil companies and he saw it. He said there were more Germans in Midland than there were Texans, and just unbelievable stories. But continue. Let’s break this down for people.
JM: Well, they began to create the military industrial complex, but more importantly –
AJ: Let’s explain. The 1947 National Security Act, COG, Continuity of Government, mirrored the Nazi set-up.
JM: Oh, exactly. And all of this fit right into Operation Eagle Flight, which was Morton Borman who was Hitler’s secretary, who survived the war, escaped to South America, was seen in the United States a few times, and towards the end of August 1945 when it became obvious that the D-Day landings were going to be successful and they wouldn’t be able to throw us off the continent, he met with Herman Schmitz, head of the I.G. Fabens Chemical Combine, which is the grandfather of all the major pharmaceutical companies today, and Dr. Abs who is head of the German Central Bank, and they instituted Operation Eagle flight. They took everything worth anything, patents, copyrights, licenses, gold, silver, precious stones, art, antiquities, scientists – everything. They took it out of Germany.
AJ: Germany had just looted Europe and parts of Russia, Eastern Europe, but they already had more industrial patents, science, A-bombs, than anybody else in the world. So that loot was contained and protected because the British royalty was really German royalty, and much of the richest families in New York were intermarried as well. So it was also a family matter.
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| 1937: British royals meet Hitler. | |
JM: Absolutely. In fact, in my book Rise of the Fourth Reich you’ll learn that as late as 2007 documents surfaced in England that showed that during the war the queen mother of England thought it was perfectly okay to have a Nazi occupation of England as long as they guaranteed the monarchy would remain intact. And why not? Because the Windsors had changed their name from Mountbatten, who’d changed their name from Battenberg. And they all were of German heritage, so why not let your relatives come in and take over?
AJ: You had the king who they say stepped down from the throne because he married an American woman. That came later. It’s mainline British history that he had to step down from being king because he had publicly backed Hitler.
JM: Exactly. The royals were very supportive of Hitler and very supportive of national socialism. That’s the thing I’m trying to get by is that what happened was, that Hitler and the Germans proved to be a little bit too effective, and they overran Europe, France, the low countries, were pushing into Russia, were threatening England. So the bankers in England and America, again they said oh my god we’ve created another Frankenstein monster!
AJ: They are masters at double-crossing.
JM: Yes. In fact I quote Churchill in my book. He wasn’t against national socialism or the Nazis. He was against Germany leading the economic system.
AJ: Germany leading the New World Order. That’s why they have all these famous Disney things making fun of cartoon Hitler’s going, "New World Order." That was the term, everybody knew ‘New World Order’ was bad. But no, it was to be an American and British, Anglo-American New World Order.
JM: Yeah. It was, (singing) ‘We Bring the World New Order, Heil Hitler…’
AJ: (impersonating) Adolph Hitler’s New World Order!
In fact, pull that up. Go to You Tube, guys! Google on You Tube, “Disney Cartoons, New World Order,” and it will be Daffy Duck getting mad as a secret agent, blowing up Nazis, and the Nazis are always going, ‘Heil Hitler, Heil Hitler, New World Order, New World Order!’ Anyways.
JM: And the song, ‘In the Fuhrer’s Face.’
AJ: That’s it, ‘In the Fuhrer’s Face.’ Is this not the land so good! We would change it if we could!
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| 1911: Cartoon by Robert Minor has Wall Street embracing Karl Marx. | |
JM: So there you go. The older generations that had a better education and a more classical education than we have truly understand this. I mentioned in an earlier book of mine, Rule by Secrecy, there was a St. Louis Post Dispatch cartoon in 1911 that shows all the Wall Street bankers and John D. Rockefeller and Mellon, and they are all shaking hands with Karl Marx. They clearly understood that these guys had created them.
AJ: They would fund any movement to con serfs into killing the ruling elite, and then handing it over to the bankers. And the bankers wrote all these declassified documents on that.
[Disney cartoon plays: “The Fuhrer says this is the master race. Heil, Heil, in the Fuhrer’s face. Not your love der Fuhrer is a great disgrace. So we heil, heil, right in the Fuhrer’s face. When Herr Georbells says we own the world and space, we heil, heil, right in Herr Goerbells’ face. And Herr Goering says, they’ll never bomb this place, the heil, heil right in Herr Goering face. Is he not the superman? Aryan superman. Super Duper Superman! Is this not the land so good? Would you leave it if you could? Not this Nazi. We would leave it if we could. We bring the World New Order. Heil Hitler, New World Order. We love the Fuhrer’s face, and we bring the New World Order. Herr Goering says they’ll never bomb this place, heil, heil right in Herr Goering’s face.]
AJ: Cue that up again where they have Hirihito say ‘Adolph Hitler’s New World Order.’
Because you need to understand Hitler wrote another book called The New World Order. HG Wells wrote one called the New World Order. There was a debate about how it would work. It would be a micromanaged society controlled by social workers and paramilitary policy. And we’re going to get into so many issues – sponsored terror where the government would blow stuff up and blame it up on their enemies, a Nazi specialty. National police force, Nazi specialty. Bankrupting companies and the government, Nazi specialty. On and on and on and on. This is what we’re dealing with.
And the people that were top Nazis in the U.S. were also the people that killed Kennedy and truly brought in shadow government to full dominance through COG. And now they’re just fully butchering the nation in front of everyone. We have multi-time New York Times bestselling author with us. He of course has written the Rise of the Fourth Reich. It is currently on the New York Times best seller list, only been out a few months. It is available at www.Infowars.com discounted, out of the gates, if people want to get it. And we’ve only been giving you the history. The book gets into the present, and just so much. We’re only scratching the surface today. We’re also filming live in here for a documentary film I’m making with Jim Marrs that Jim is going to be narrating.
Jim, continue.
JM: Well, most people know about Operation Paperclip which was the way they brought in Nazis into the country, put them to work on our space program, our mind control experts working for the CIA with programs such as MK ULTRA. All that’s history. But where they began to make their move in the political arena actually was probably with the assassination of President Kennedy.
When I began to write my book the Rise of the Fourth Reich, I was looking at the historical and political situation and circumstances. It never crossed my mind that I would be considering the Kennedy assassination again. And yet the same names, the same companies, the same corporations, the same secret societies kept cropping up until I finally ended up writing a whole chapter on Kennedy and the Nazis.
AJ: Now see, that’s key, that’s key! Because in pure research – I don’t talk to you a lot and you don’t talk to me, and before we ever met we had come to the same conclusions; because if you do pure research, you come up with the same answers basically if you are correct. I mean, let’s say we’re both doing research at what temperature water boils – we’re going to find the same thing. We’re going to find the same individuals.
So explain that. That’s key. I’m making a film about the JFK assassination and you’re already in it as a consultant, and then separately I’m doing my own research before I read Rise and Fall of the Fourth Reich and before your book even comes out, I say, “Jim, aren’t the same players involved in the Kennedy assassination?” You say, Yes, on the air, about six months ago. You said, “That’s actually in my upcoming book!” So now, that’s been incorporated in the JFK film. That’s how integral this is to everyday life.
Please continue.
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JM: That’s correct. Well, to begin with, two of the most powerful and influential members of the Warren Commission were John J. McCloy and Allen Dulles, two of the men who were most instrumental in supporting Hitler before, during and after the war.
And again, you have to understand, we’re not talking about that these are all Germans. These are global fascists. And let’s get that term nailed down. When I say “fascists” I use it advisedly. Look in the dictionary. The dictionary definition of fascism is “the combination of state and corporate power, usually fueled by nationalism.” Okay?
Now, Mussolini himself, who coined the term because it came from his Blackshirts, the Facistas, he said that maybe fascism isn’t the correct term. He said the more correct term is ‘corporatism, rule by the corporations.’ I think any thinking person today knows the United States is now under the control of these multinational corporations. What I’m trying to tell you is, they were either created or bought up by these displaced National Socialist Nazis after World War II, and they’ve been slowly buying up. The big fish eat the little fish, until now there’s just a handful of these corporations; and they’re all controlled by the same families, the same companies, the same bloodlines, who were connected to the rise of national socialism in Germany.
AJ: Now we’ve gotten up to 1950 or so. In the early 1950s the Bilderberg Group is set up, and that gets set up by Prince Barnhart who was a German prince who then married the queen of the Netherlands of the House of Orange. He was an SS officer. Then in the middle of the war he jumps over to the British side there with his cousins, and then Bilderberg tries to set up a world fascist state integrating the parts in together, always the same thing over and over again.
Break down the Bilderberg/Globalist connection.
JM: Well, you pretty well nailed it right there. When Prince Barnhart of the Netherlands, who had been a Nazi SS officer, jumped ship and came over to Britain, you could probably mark that as about the time that the New World Order turned against Hitler. It was not that they were against the Nazis, not that they were against national socialism. Heck, they created them. But they didn’t want Germany leading the financial world order.
AJ: His first cousin was Prince Phillip who was already married to the queen, so.
JM: Exactly. And of course the Windsors, who by the way are blood relations to the Bushes and to Al Gore and to John Kerry –
AJ: And to Barack Obama.
JM: And Barack Obama. It’s amazing, the same bloodlines. And so once they decided they had to turn on Hitler, then they began to come up with another New World Order, which was to create National Socialism in the West and continued funding communist socialism in the East until communist socialism finally collapsed in the early ‘90s under its own dead weight.
AJ: That turned out, the Rockefellers and the Armand Hammers, they owned the big aluminum plants and tractor plants. They were propping it up, and American taxpayers the whole time were paying for it.
JM: Exactly. It blew my mind being a veteran of the Vietnam war to find out that at the height of the Vietnam war when we were fighting North Vietnam and said it was just a surrogate of China and Russia, Lyndon Johnson was sending more American aid to Russia than we had during World War II when they were our allies. And they were using American tax money to build facilities in Russia like the Kama River Truck Factory, and they were cranking out war materials to send to North Vietnam to use against our own soldiers.
AJ: And the North Vietnam trucks were Fords. Ha, ha, ha!
JM: Exactly. Business is business, you know.
AJ: That’s where they make the money. They sell both sides on war, and then the bankers basically through the governments tax the people, and that’s kind of the old fashioned “bail-out.” Now they just declare an economic emergency, sucker the public or the Congress they own into paying literally everything into them.
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| Sept. 27, 1933: The Reichstag fire. | |
JM: Right. And one of the Nazis’ biggest weapons of choice was fear. In early 1933 Germany was a democratic republic, but a few weeks later their Parliament building, the Reichstag, burned and was gutted by fire, which in those gentler days was actually as big a shock to the German people as 9/11 was to us. And Hitler, who was only the chancellor, kind of like our vice president, said, “Well, give me the power and I will go after these communist terrorists who did this!” Well now it’s pretty well acknowledged that the Nazis themselves set the fire in the Reichstag, and this was an early day false flag operation.
AJ: By the way, a big European court just three months ago did exonerate Marinas Vanderlubbe, the guy they’d set up for that, and did say it was the Nazis. What we do know is that there was another operation that was documented to have been a false flag, and that of course was Gleiwitz. People always ask, “Well, how did Hitler just out of the blue attack Poland and get the Germans to accept that?” Well, see, there was an al Qaeda attack, but it was called a Polish attack. Of course it later came out in the Nuremburg trials it was all staged. I want to tie together the Nazis’ love, the corporate fascists’ love of a false flag and psychology because they are great social architects. And the PhDs in psychology, psychiatry came out of Germany and England.
We only started with what was happening, and I want to get into current things, because that’s what really matters. I want to get into some of the history, we skipped ahead. I’m trying to get this straight – going back to the Germanic style death cults and the British East India Company tied in with the Germans, setting up Skull and Bones with all its bizarre Germanic death cult. And World War I we have the war generals, the field marshals wearing the big skull helmets like something out of Skeletor.
You’ve got the floor. Talk about that.
JM: Well of course all the Bushes, Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush, and George W. Bush, were all members of Skull and Bones, which is just the unofficial name of this secret society up on the Yale Campus. But when they did an investigation of Skull and Bones they found out its proper name is Chapter 322. Well, Chapter 322 of what? Ron Rosenbaum of the New York Times found out it connected over to a German secret society, and of course that was the Illuminati. So you’ve got the Illuminati, and then members of the Illuminati and other German aristocrats were members of the secret society called the Thule Gezelshaft, or the Thule Society, that believed that in the far distant past ETs had come to the earth and produced a super race of Aryans. And that’s where their whole Aryan superiority thing came from.
And it was the Thule Society that was headquartered in the Four Seasons Hotel in Munich that was the original big supporter of Adolph Hitler. So there is definitely this occult side to Nazism which nobody new about when I was young man. But in recent years there’s a lot of books now and even DVDs about the occult aspects of the Third Reich.
AJ: And let’s be clear, let’s be clear. We’re not saying any of this is real! And I know you’re not. What we’re saying is, this is a fact, this is mainstream information that you have this bizarre Germanic death cult that believes they are genetically engineered by extra terrestrials. This goes back hundreds of years. How did they come up with this! And Hitler is an adherent of this, as this young army officer in army intelligence setting up this Nazi death cult. You already have branches of it here in the United States with the Bushes and all of them in it. That’s why you have this international network. So we were going back. But that is a mainline fact.
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JM: Right. And it doesn’t matter whether you believe in that or not or whether Alex or I believe in that or not. The fact is, they do. And that’s why they practice these rites. That’s why you have Bohemian Grove with the worship of the owl and the phony, if it is phony, sacrifices. And what I found out, and I also detail this in my book the Rise of the Fourth Reich, throughout the Apollo program, some of our major space missions, the date and times for those launches were set not on any scientific criteria but on the alignment of the constellations – in other words, by astrological alignment.
AJ: They admitted that about the Olympics this year on 8/8/8 at 8/8/8 with 8/8/8 drums. And of course who designed the modern Olympics? The first big one was 1936 in Munich. Hitler drew the rings, Hitler drew the torch. He designed all of the rituals around the different Germanic death cult societies. So that’s all this weird UFO cult having this ritual. And then was it 1980 or ’86 Olympics they had the 8/8/8 and they had fake aliens landing. This is a crazy UFO cult.
JM: That’s another whole topic, but they are conditioning us to that. The point again is, it doesn’t matter whether you want to believe in that. The point is, somebody who has the power to set dates, times, symbols for the international Olympics, for the U.S. and Russian space programs, they do believe in it. And that again points to the secret society groups that truly believe in that, which are the National Socialists, the Nazis.
AJ: Again, folks, this all sounds totally insane. We are not saying that Aryans or people from northern Europe are really these super humans. What we’re saying is, they believe this. This is even on the History Channel with Hitler and the Occult. This is mainline information. And the point is, this system came over here and dominated.
Now let’s skip ahead. Let’s get up to the ‘50s and ‘60s and the Kennedys and what happened there.
JM: Well, Kennedy was one of the few people who probably was in a position to know what was happening here. He got his start as a young man, first came to public attention writing a book called Why England Slept, and it was all about why England was going along and allowing the Nazis to gain power and prominence and going along with them. So he understood what was going on. And by the time he became president — essentially on a fluke because he was running against Richard Nixon in 1960. Richard Nixon got his start in politics with Nazi money, a Nazi by the name of Molaxa.
AJ: And he was good buddies with Prescott Bush. He was a protégé of Prescott’s.
JM: Exactly. So that was their attempt to worm their way into politics. But Kennedy got elected because he was charismatic and he had lots of money, and the youth got behind him.
AJ: And he had the mob.
JM: Exactly. And so at least that was a homegrown mob, not the Nazi mob. And he began to take steps that were thwarting the Nazi plan. He was beginning to go into joint space exploration with the Soviets, ending the Cold War. He was going to pull us out of Vietnam. He was closing the loopholes for the international corporations, and in fact in June of 1963 he ordered $6 billion issued not to through the Federal Reserve system that we have to pay interest to but through the Treasury, which we don’t have to pay interest to. So in other words, he was trying to curtail the power of the bankers. And of course in November, he’s shot in Dallas.
AJ: Now going back, we have the Continuity of Government system, the National Security State takeover at that point. He also got approached by Dulles and by Lyman Lemnitzer, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about staging a terror attack, Operation Northwoods. And that’s when he really turned against them!
JM: Right. They wanted to launch attacks in Miami and in the southern United States, target U.S. citizens for assassination, hijack planes and ships, and blame it all on Castro so they could mount another Bay of Pigs type invasion of Cuba. And that was actually approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Kennedy said, We don’t operate that way, and he turned them down. That was another straw that broke the camel’s back.
Well now, with Kennedy out of the way, Johnson, who could be bought, was in the seat, and he was run by his council of “wise men,” all of who were members of the Council on Foreign Relations. So this is where they begin to consolidate their power. And of course the Warren Commission with John J. McCloy, Allen Dulles sitting on it, can whitewash the whole thing. They blamed it all on that snook Lee Harvey Oswald.
Then in 1972 when Bush took over, they got back on track, okay? As president, Bush wiped out the leadership of the Republican National Committee.
AJ: Let’s kick off with Nixon appointing George Herbert Walker Bush.
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JM: In 1972 President Nixon appointed George Herbert Walker Bush chairman of the Republican National Committee, and basically wiped out the Republican leadership but told them, keep Bush. So Nixon and Bush are both connected back to the same globalist fascist who created communism and the Nazis. They are National Socialists. Under Bush both as chairman of the Republican National Committee and later as vice president under Reagan, he enlarged the GOP’s ethnic committees and rolled all of the European fascists into the Republican party.
Now here’s what’s important about that. Nixon’s chief White House counsel, John Dean, had written a book recently called Broken Government and said, it’s been new on Capitol Hill since 1997 when the GOP gained control of the House and it’s been new to the White House since 2001 with the arrival of George Bush and Dick Cheney, but its roots first emerged during the Nixon presidency and began blossoming in the Reagan/Bush senior years. What was he talking about? Neoconservatism! Okay?
But you have to understand that neoconservatism is simply National Socialism.
AJ: And they followed Strauss, who was an admirer of the Nazis, and then went to the Chicago Business School. And they admit that. They say per Machiavellian, ends justify the means, killing innocent people is okay, staging terror attacks are okay. So again, it’s a ruthless mind-set. And look at it – black uniforms, Homeland Security which means Reich Security. That’s what they called it in Germany was Homeland Security, or Land Security. This is just unbelievable. And then it’s admitted – G. Gordon Liddy admits a lot of this. It came on a bunch of TV programs, came out in the hearings, with them all in the basement watching Nazi propaganda. Tell folks about that.
JM: Right. Well, that’s where it all began. And then it began to blossom in the Reagan years. And although Reagan was probably a traditional conservative, if you’ll think back during the campaign of 1980 –
AJ: They forced him to take Bush.
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JM: Exactly. He had pledged that he would never allow George Herbert Walker Bush to be in his government or his administration, and yet by mechanizations and coercion they forced him into accepting Bush, and then less than two months after he took office he was shot! And if it hadn’t been for the fact that he barely survived, Bush would have been president. But he did survive, and Reagan went on. And I think Reagan understood that he was not in control because in 1985 there was a big hubbub about him going to Germany and laying wreaths in the Bitburg Cemetery where Nazi Waffen SS officers were buried. And Jewish groups and veterans organizations raised Hell about that. But he did it anyway! Why would a politician do something that was so opposed by so many people? It was because his Nazi masters told him he was going to do that.
And then we come on forward to today, and we now have the spectacle of the 2008 election. And you vote for John McCain and you’re going to get right wing socialism, or you can vote for Barack Obama and you’re going to get left wing socialism. But the National Socialists are there because socialism is what it’s all about.
AJ: Let’s explain. The big bankers want to train us and domesticate us with social engineering to pay our money to them so they can steal it. Look how the bankers right now are getting the bail-out. That’s socialism for them! That’s why it’s communism for them, not for us. Then they use our tax money to militarize the police.
Talk about that. Talk about the Nazi fascist component that came out of England and Germany with the social engineering, with the PhDs that come out of Prussia. That’s the micromanagement, the control.
JM: Well, I think most people understand about communism and bald-faced socialism. Where they’ve gotten really thrown off the track again is this infiltration of neoconservatism within the Republican party particularly and among the nation’s conservatives. Most people who consider themselves conservatives, if you really talk to them, they are constitutional conservatives. They want less government, balanced budgets, border security, family values, less government. And yet they are confused today because they keep voting for these people like the Bushes who claim to be compassionate conservatives, and all they get are more and more socialistic programs plus foreign wars of adventure –
AJ: Take John McCain. He’s for open borders, for gun control.
JM: War for 100 years.
AJ: He was part of the Keating 5, and then he claims he’s anti-corruption with Wall Street? But let’s continue. We didn’t even get into all the Nazi symbolism that’s happening.
JM: We also have not touched on the drugging down of America by Nazi methodology. I.G. Farben back in 1800 was actually marketing an antidepressant under the name heroin until finally enough people said, don’t do that. In the aftermath of WWII, a U.S. chemist named Charles Eliot Perkins was sent to Germany to try to reconstruct the I.G. Farben combine there, and he came back and wrote that the German chemist had worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass control that was submitted to and adopted by the German general staff. And this plan was to control the population of any given area through mass medication of the drinking water supplies, namely using sodium fluoride. So they put sodium fluoride in the drinking water of the concentration camps to keep the inmates passive and nonresistant.
AJ: Then in the 1950s under COG and under National Security they put fluoride in our water and called you kooks if you didn’t want it. But it’s in a Pulitzer prizewinning book, and it came out in the Nuremburg trials, that the Nazis were putting it in the water and so were the Soviets.
JM: That’s right. Today two-thirds of the water supply in this country is now fluoridated. Think about this. One of the most over-prescribed drugs today is Prozac, which is 94 percent fluoride.
AJ: It’s made out of fluoride.
JM: But to get Prozac you have to go to a licensed physician and get a prescription, and yet undocumented, unlicensed city workers are dumping fluoride into your water supply.
AJ: And not just fluoride. Sodium fluoride, which under law the term fluoride, they are allowed to take all the toxic waste, lead, mercury, that’s mixed in with it. Folks, you can’t make this stuff up.
JM: That’s true. And then they talk about the dumbing down of America. Well, it’s not that we’ve gotten dumber. It’s the fact that we have been drugged dumber.
AJ: Absolutely. In fact they’ve got studies in areas of Europe that have been fluoridating, England and the U.S. for over 50 years. They have maps, on average, a 20 point IQ reduction in areas where they’ve had fluoridation.
JM: That’s correct. And one of the big issues today that people are genuinely concerned about is the increase in teen suicides and school shootings. We’re all concerned about that. And yet if you go back, the only thing the mass media, the corporate media can talk about is gun control, take guns away. Well, hey, a lot of people listening here in Texas, if you’re over 40 or 50 you remember a time when we all had guns and nobody ever shot anybody. The problem is not the guns. The problem is the drugs, the Prozac, the Ritalin, the drugs –
AJ: In fact the Prozac insert says it causes depression and violence.
JM: Exactly. In fact if you go back you’ll find virtually every school shooting involves someone who’s either on these psychotropic drugs or just coming off of them, which apparently is even worse. And yet the media will not talk about that. Why? Because in 2007 the pharmaceutical corporations that can be tracked back to IG Farben and the Nazis spent $3.7 BILLION dollars on consumer advertising.
AJ: Ladies and gentlemen, it is not Alex Jones saying this. As I look at www.infowars.com , mainstream media is quietly announcing the U.S. army is to patrol streets to deal with the American people. They actually say, “We hope we don’t have to shoot you,” in the Army Times publications. They are quietly announcing, this is marshal law. Bloomberg, the financial headline, link at www.infowars.com : “Bush Seeks Dictatorial Power in Bail-out, All By Design.”
We got the IMF and World Bank documents. We warned you. This is it, ladies and gentlemen. This isn’t a joke, this isn’t a game, this isn’t a drill, this is toe-to-toe info war with the New World Order.
They’ve got control of the federal government, they’re going to claim you owe these trillions of dollars, they are going to rape you financially, and I’ve got a politico here reporting ABC News today reported that foreign banks will “be bailed out.” That means your whole future is being signed over to them. This is not a bail-out.
But it doesn’t matter. A lot of you want to keep laughing about all this. You want to giggle and smirk. You don’t know they’ve really built FEMA camps. You haven’t been to the urban warfare drills like I have where the troops are trying to take your guns. You haven’t interviewed police chiefs who Delta Force tried to secretly bribe. This is what the Nazis did in third world countries. They would go in and buy off the local governments. They’ve done that now here.
In the 8 or 9 minutes we have left with Jim Marrs I hope everybody will visit www.inforwars.com, www.prisonplanet.com, and get his amazing book the Rise of the Fourth Reich. We’ve probably covered 5 percent of what’s in the book. It is such an amazing book to really understand what we’re facing.
The group that put Hitler in is the group now in control, and they are using that model, minus the racial politics. They use the more divide-and-conquer British model there. In closing, the COG, Continuity of Government, National Security State, in your words, using those terms for the film, get into that, Jim, and what their end game is, the population reduction, what they’re going for once they get their world fascist government.
JM: Well, during the Ronald Reagan years probably while Reagan was recuperating from being shot, he signed a secret executive order that created a program called, innocuously enough, the National Program Office. And Rumsfeld and Cheney – Cheney had been chief of staff to Gerald Ford and Rumsfeld had been his Defense secretary. And they would slip away, and they created this Continuity of Government program which basically was how to survive a collapse in the United States or a nuclear war.
One of the awkward problems they faced was, What about Congress? And they finally decided that after some catastrophic event in the United States, it would be just too time-consuming to try to bring Congress in. So Congress was just bypassed.
AJ: And now, people always wondered how this would be introduced. In the name of the economy it’s now being done, but Bush signed John Warner Defense Authorization Act to use troops against the American people two years ago. He signed PDD51 and Congress asked to see it, and he said, No, you have no authority, when they are coequal. Can you speak about that?
JM: Well, exactly. He’s destroying the checks and balances in the federal government, and bringing everything into the Executive, which of course is again following the Nazi methodology. This is what Hitler did. He signed emergency decrees, one after another, until finally he just took total power and anybody that tried to stand up against him then was a “terrorist” against the government. And that’s important for people to understand. What the Nazis did, when they killed dissidents, when they killed homosexuals, when they killed gypsies, when they killed trade unionists, when they killed the Jews, this was all under the color of law.
AJ: And it was setting precedents because once they really got going it was about stealing the general public’s land and money, and they were like, Hey, I was with you. And they are like, No, you’re not; we’re here to predetate on you.
JM: In the ‘30s the National Socialists gained the support of the middle class Germans and middle commercial Germans because they portrayed themselves as conservatives. And they got the bulk of the commercial people behind them, and then by the time these people figured out that these are not the people we want leading, it was too late. And I see the same thing happening today.
AJ: I want to go back because the eugenics, the family planning, this was all set up by German PhDs out of areas in Germany. Then they linked up with the British eugenicists, and then that really flowered in the U.S. So all the social engineering, the human genome, the head of that just got in trouble calling blacks “subhuman” and he’s of course a Nazi basically. Break that down, what the master plan is, and speak about eugenics.
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JM: If you want to know what the overall master plan is, all you have to do is go back and read the work of a British Fabian Socialist who wrote a book in 1947. This fellow’s name was Eric Arthur Blair, but we know him better as George Orwell. And he wrote a book called 1984. And in there I think he laid out the game plan for these global fascist socialists. And that is, to split the world into three economic blocks. He called it Oceana, Asiana and East Asiana. Today in the real world it’s the European Union, the soon-to-be North American Union, and the future Asian Union.
AJ: Of course he was British Intelligence.
JM: Oh, yes, and connected to the aristocrats. He knew what the game plan was. And so the idea is, they will have these three economic blocks. Everybody will be computer chipped, they will be followed, they will be surveilled. There will be no freedom except the freedom to go to work and pay your taxes.
AJ: And one-child policy. Through the water and food they carry out soft kill operations. Can you speak to that?
JM: Exactly. This is what they’re doing with the drugging down of America with fluoride and aspartame and other deadly –
AJ: It’s all over a 100-year-old public German plan.
JM: Exactly, which they laid out. Then what was written about in a very popular book in 1948 called 1984.
AJ: The Germans in WWI and WWII said, We’ll break off the Southwest. They taught the Mexicans about Aslan, their mythical kingdom. They attacked the U.S. in WWI and WWII, and nobody even knows Mexico on behalf of German attacked the U.S.
JM: That’s true. That’s true, because nobody knows history because our education system has been dumbed down going all the way back to the National Education Board which was created by John D. Rockefeller, one of the architects of this national fascist global system.
AJ: You do have to hand it to them though, these people really got their stuff together.
JM: Well, they’re not stupid. They are in fact very brilliant, but then brilliance, as we found out with the Nazi leaders like Albert Speer and Heinrich Himmler and Adolph Hitler himself, just because you’re smart or just because you’re charismatic does not mean that you’re the fellow that needs to be followed.
AJ: Or that you have wisdom or that you have a soul.
JM: Exactly, or any kind of heart. They keep talking about Barack Obama. He just somehow vaguely talks about change, and all they can talk about is how charismatic he is. Well, they tend to forget because they don’t know history that Hitler was very beloved by women, children; animals loved him. He was a very charismatic person on an individual basis, and yet look what kind of disaster he led his nation into.
AJ: Getting into secret societies – and, folks, it’s mainline that the Nazis were into weird occult stuff, and Skull and Bones is real and a branch of that.
Black Sun. They don’t like us talking about that. Tell folks about Black Sun.
JM: Well, the Black Sun is one of the most sacred of the occult symbols of the Thule Gazelshaft, the Thule Society, occult society and its successor the Black Shirted SS or Schutstaffel. The Black Sun represents the black energy at the center of the universe which the German Nazis and their occult followers hoped to tap into and draw strength from. What’s amazing is, that in the heart of America in Nashville, Tennessee, right in the middle of their Centennial Park, is a huge black globe made out of onyx or some black hard material that represents the earth. And it spins on a small thin cushion of water, and when the sun comes out it’s blinding, and it is a WWII memorial that was donated by German. So it’s almost as though they planted a Black Sun in the heart of America going na, na, na, na, na, nah. Okay? It’s amazing.
And then we look around at other things. We can look at our 57 cent stamp and see the German gothic eagle. We look at our troops today who wear camouflage and flanged helmets called the fritz that are German helmets from WWII. We see our police forces who no longer wear blue and carry the word “To Serve and Protect.” Now they wear black and shields and tazers and if you get out of the free speech zone they tazer you.
AJ: Which is what Germany did: they said free speech only in these areas. What about also we see them after WWII in the Senate bringing the Fascia in? That’s a symbol of fascism, the bundle of sticks with the hatchets on top.
JM: Right. And the Fasciae goes all the way back to the Roman Empire and represents central authority.
AJ: That’s where the “heil” comes from, the Roman Empire.
JM: Hail Caesar, and they Germanized it to Heil Hitler. Exactly. So it’s the same old thing. If you go back and think about it, Alex, throughout the history of the world there’s only been two true forms of government ever attempted. Briefly, in ancient Greece and briefly in North America they tried participatory democracy, but both of those finally fell away and we went back to the one true form of government occupied that’s taken over in the whole history of the world, and that’s central authority.
AJ: Jim Marrs. The new book, New York Times best selling list – get it in stores everywhere – the Rise of the Fourth Reich, available at www.infowars.com.
Quickly give us your website.
JM: It’s www.JimMarrs.com
AJ: Vio con dios, ladies and gentlemen. I’ll be back tomorrow. God bless you all. All we told you is the truth, nothing more. It’s up to you to do something about it.
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September 22nd, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Good interview. Long article here, but it was a good interview and good reading here.
Rhonda
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm
…a most informative interview and article…this week my daughter’s boyfriend laughed in my face when i tried to tell him that arnold schwarzenegger’s family has been involved with the nazi party…he thinks i’m a nutcase…
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Yeah it seems they are taking down websites or blocking again too! The site in question is;
http://www.larouchepac.com
check it out!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Wow, what great research by Jim Marrs !!!!!!!!!!!!! He’s like a historian or more !!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Jim !!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A7tftOfLdg
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:57 pm
It’s like buying an ant farm, you take it out of the box, you assemble it and then you place your ants inside of it. Within days you will start to notice tunnels and trails that have been formed due to just plain natural intelligence. Then try shaking the ant farm and then you have damaged all the trails these intelligent creatures have formed, then the suriving ants go at it and rebulid. some have died but a few survived, You have the power to control that enviroment but at the same time you have no control of controlling the entire ant population. That is what we are lets say we are ants in a controlled enviroment and program of life. Institutions like church and government are the institutions that run this world, without them you as a person will most likely have freedom of self. Some companies facilitate your everyday well being and its up to us to live by them. There was a time when we did not have all the technology and all the things that facilitate life and our every day chores. W
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I think the old man needs to do his research before he accuses the Pope of being a Nazi. The Pope was in the the Hitler Youth group for a short time, and his father was opposed to the Nazi’s. The Pope never killed anybody or any Jews.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
The Pope killed millions spanning eons. Also, the Pope during WWII allowed the Catholic Ustashis to killed innocent Gypsies, Serbs, and Jewish people. Even if you deny that Pius has direct involvement in some of the Holocaust, he certainly supported fascist movement that killed millions of people. This isn’t all Catholics, but the leadership of the Vatican.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Foller the money. Look who finances all these groups,commies nazis ect. Problem reaction solution. Good job Jim! Great interview Alex!
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Thanks for the good story.I live in Ontario canada and we have a native land dispute going on that the government doesn’t seem to want to end.I noticed that all the police that show up are all dressed in black and look more like military than ploice of old.Funny thing is they don’t arrest any native law breakers but grab a non-native if he tries to raise his countries flag.Scary here like a police state.Now I know why the government put in a gun registry so they will know who is armed and who isn’t and if he is what kind of guns he has.Our PM has been to these Bilderberg meetings too so I guess they are all in on it….
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:00 pm
This was a great interview!
I found the interview so informative that when I saw the book The Rise of the Fourth Reich at Barnes & Noble yesterday I bought it on the spot! However, now I wish I had purchased it through the InfoWars store because I paid $26 plus local sales tax for my copy whereas InfoWars sells it for only $19.95!
Either way I highly recommend the book based on my reading so far.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Great interview and great information from Alex as usual.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
This is very interesting stuff .
I am new 3rd day on Info wars .com
This site has interesting topics
but this topic is by far the most interesting Ive seen.
I hope to learn and do my own investigating to see if I agree with this topic above.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I have a friend, he’s 80 years old and lives in the Dominican Republic now. He lived through Franco’s Spain and the 2nd WW and he lived in the US most of his life. But he moved to the DR a couple of years ago because he said the ’smell’ in America was very familiar…but this time he wasn’t going to get caught up in the tyranny and he bailed. That’s how obvious it is and still we do nothing
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XbrNSOxwXOM
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Justin, you are not nasty, just showing al the connection. Hell many know it, and if the look at the heads of the media, recording industries, and film companies, well they are all run by, guess who, Jews.
But one must also remember that these Zionist Jews are not really semetic people, but from the Causcasus region and only took on Judaeism, but I have no problem with the true semite Jews, who ae against the Zionists. Anyone against the Zionist is a friend of mine.
so folks calling these people out is not being anti semite, because well our Middle Eastern Iraqi friends are semites, as well as other arabs.
so who is being anti semit? My guess is the Zionists.
What a world.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
If the Third Reich didn’t kill the Jews we would be ruling the world by now. We now control world financial markets and Fourth Reich will soon rule for 1000 years.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
sacred reich
will take control, no matter the cost
taken by force
controlled by fear
death squad police of the right
must stamp out subversion
dissention, unrest
those who oppose will meet death
“Democracy” at any cost
the methods of freedom unclear
right-wing radicals, abusing control
the choice will be democracy of death
striking fear in the hearts of men
the war machine will leave you dead
rockets launching, lightning up the sky
the end is near, it’s your time to die
lightning war hitting fast and hard
no time to act the world caught off guard
The Fuhrer’s troops invade the land
to spread his teachings the master plan
Blitzkrieg, lightning war
neocons to kill them all
Sacred Reich’s master plan
Evil minds bend on destruction
ignoring the pleas of their race
The final chapter in humanic abduction
All signs of society erased
People asking fewer questions
Letting politicians do their thinking
Not questioning nuclear judgement
As warheads enter our space
Our atmosphere clouded with poison
We’re killing ourselves to live
Filling the world with hate and dissention
We’ll have only our lives to give
What we do now is the key to the future
We’ll only have ourselves to blame
For arming the world with the tools of destruction
Our ignorance means death
Warring on opposite nations
Starvation amongst impoverished nations
Outlook bleak for the world residue
Ignorance of mankind
Clouding the world with residue
Of man’s toxic industry
Slowly killing nameless victims
Whose ignorance leaves them dead
We’re crowded with anger inventions of danger
From man’s diabolical mind
Humanities dying no use in trying
It’s only a matter of time
How long will it be before there’s no air to breathe
And our water is polluted
Ignorance runs rampant no one is caring
Suicide of the human race
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Let’s clear a few things up from this interview.
The concordat with the Pope was supposed to end the persecution of Catholics that had existed in Germany for centuries.
The bishops of Austria, Hitler’s country of birth, but outside the control of Nazi repression at that time, publicly expressed their view of the Concordat, Nazism, and the situation in Germany in a letter of December 23, 1933: “The concordat recently concluded between the Holy See and Germany does not mean that the Catholic Church approves of the religious errors of Nazism. Everybody knows how tense is the situation between the Church and State in Germany. . . . The Catholic Church has never agreed with the three fundamental errors of Nazism, which are first, race madness, second, violent anti-Semitism, and third extreme nationalism.” The Austrian bishops still dared to write in this manner, as they were under the protection of Engelbert Dollfuss, who was an ally of the then still anti-Hitlerite Italian leader Benito Mussolini.
In his Advent 1933 sermon, Cardinal von Faulhaber clearly preached: “Let us not forget that we were saved not by German blood but by the blood of Christ!” in response to Nazi racism. The SS interpreted the sermon as an intervention in favour of the Jews. In 1934 an unknown person fired two shots at the cardinal’s study. In 1935 some Nazis called in an open meeting for the killing of Faulhaber. In 1938, after Faulhaber’s condemning the racism of Kristallnacht a Nazi mob broke the windows in his episcopal residence, prompted by an attack on Catholic allies of the Jews, uttered by the Bavarian Nazi Interior Minister. In 1935, a confrontation between a Nazi mob and a pro-Faulhaber crowd outside the main church in Munich had almost come to street violence and several Catholics were severely wounded by the Nazi fanatics. Faulhaber was also an opponent of the Nazi euthanasia program.
Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Joseph Ratzinger joined the Hitler Youth, as membership was legally required in effect beginning March 25, 1939. In 1943, when he was 16, Ratzinger was drafted with many of his classmates into the Luftwaffenhelfer programme. In late April or early May, days or weeks before the German surrender, Ratzinger deserted. He became a priest after the war. Many anti-Catholics circulate a picture of him with his right hand raised like a Nazi. He is most likely praying over the eucharist (Lord’s supper).
The five Olympic rings represent the five continents and were designed in 1913, adopted in 1914 and debuted at the Games at Antwerp, 1920.
The Olympic Torch was reintroduced at the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam. The torch RELAY of modern times which transports the flame from Greece to the various designated sites of the games had no ancient precedent and was introduced by Carl Diem, with the support of Joseph Goebbels, at the 1936 Berlin Olympics as a means to promote Nazi ideology.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:58 pm
please ignore anna
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
My Dad Was a top turret gunner on a B17 in WWII and told me long ago to look out for the nazy’s
in our GOV but it is only in the last few years that I now ((SEE)) what he was saying!!
Know your HISTORY and you will know your future!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Just before destroying The US Woodrow Wilson said in a speech
“We have restricted credit, we have restricted opportunity, we have controlled development, and we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world–no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”
Excerpt from 1912 campaign speech
http://posmedprod.webs.com/fra.....anking.htm
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:25 pm
To bad Hitler didnt get rid of your family tree “Anna”!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 pm
By the way Anna you do realize Jewish women are by far the “UGLIEST” women in the world! There is nothing remotely attractive about women like Tori Spelling, Sara Parker, Barbara Striesand, the list goes on and on! I cant begin to describe how ugly you are. And that is what your problem is. You are “UGLY” and you know and hate it…
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
As I examine the Articles that is being told of the evil works that is bringing Deception and lies upon the people, and very soon massive destruction, it saddens my heart. The Living god has warned every man that they will be charged with the Greater works, that Satan is bringing forth to destroy the Souls of men. Yes, there is a Spiritual war going on to destroy mankind. Satan who set every Government, and Religion in place to divide,deceive, and destroy. He pits one Nation against another, WW2, to destroy the Nations and oppress the people. then He would deceive the people and offer them a Great Industrial Group that would bring the minds together and they would form the E.U.. This is why Stalin,Churchill,Roosevelt met in Yalta. It was to set in place the New World Order, or the W.T.O. As Satan and His Evil Workers Worked their Plan they inserted all of the Isms Capitalism,Communism, Conservatism,Liberalism, and all the ism’s are used to divide the minds of the people and the end is to destroy their Soul in a tormented Hell. Wake up America! The Truth is to see and understand the Evil Work, the Trap that is being set for mankind The Greater Works that Satan is putting in place. then the Great Harvest will be put in place, and if you accept the Works of these 3 men you will perish. The 8 Major Religions that He set in place to deceive the people and if you stay in one they will destroy you. Yes the Whole Truth is not being told today. Yes to shew the Evil that is being brought upon mankind should be told, but the Religious Leaders that lie and hide the Truth from the people, that sell their books for gain is Evil. Yes, the Truth is the evil workers are not Jews, but are of the Synagogue of Satan. To tell Half Truth is as wrong as to tell a lie. As I examine both Sides the Religious Men, and the men like Tex Mars, Mr. Roberts, and the men of the AFP. the news paper I have taken for over 30 yrs. they never shew the people the last Evil Works of Satan, so the people can escape the Torments of Hell. Yes there are 5 More Major things to be put in place and the Son of Perdition, the World Dictator will be seated in TYRE, and will rule the W.T.O. The 10th Power that has been in Isolation for over 20 yrs, must be seated very soon. Turkey must be seated also. there will soon be put in place a false Peace, and then like in 1933, for I was there the Banks will be closed.I would urge people to reexamine themselves, because there is a Living God who declares that Rebellion is as the Sin of Witchcraft. He warns that He will send a person Strong Delusions that they will believe a lie rather than the Truth. Yes This Spiritual War will soon be over, and what will you profit if you are deceived and accept His Mark666?A Servant of the God of Israel
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
FU Anna for saying the Fourth Reich will rule for a 1000 years!
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:46 pm
http://stevequayle.com/News.al......ties.html
Orange Ties… Collapses… Thieves… Police State… Cleaners
HEARD IT ON THE BACKSIDE
In the interest of providing WARNING and in an attempt to stop , delay, or interupt the following events planned……..In the name of Jesus Christ I pray they will not occur.
FROM DEEP BACK CHANNELS I HAVE CONFIRMED THAT PLANNED ASSASSINATIONS OF ANY U.S. CITIZENS WHO ARE ON THE “RED LIST” WILL COMMENCE ON 10/1/2008.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT MASS NUMBERS OF BODIES WILL BE APPEARING THAT WEEK. IT DOES MEAN THAT SYSTEMATIC ELIMINATION OF THOSE ON THAT “RED LIST”…..IE. THOSE WHO COULD LEAD RESISTANCE, OPINION MAKERS OR THOSE IN THE MEDIA….. MAIN STREAM OR ALTERNATIVE, CERTAIN KNOWN MILITIA LEADERS AND MEMBERS, PATRIOTIC EX MILITARY WHO COULD TRAIN AND LEAD CITIZENS IN RESISTANCE TO TYRANTS AND THEIR MARTIAL LAW PRIVATIONS , AND CURRENT U.S. MILITARY THAT WOULD SIDE WITH THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS AGAINST TYRANNY…. WILL TAKE PLACE.
I HEARD THIS WOULD BE HANDLED BY ASSIGNED ASSETS IN THE U.S. MILITARY, PRIVATE CONTRACTORS, INTEL ASSETS, CORPORATE SECURITY TROUBLE SHOOTERS, AND FOREIGN TROOPS CURRENTLY BILLETTED IN TRAINING FACILITIES ON U.S. MILITARY BASES, OR IN CLANDESTINE BASES IN RURAL AREAS, CLOSED MILITARY BASES, OR EVEN DEEP UNDERGROUND BASES AND RECENTLY PURCHASED MINING PROPERTIES.
APPARENTLY, THESE ASSETS WILL GRAB AND THEN POP PEOPLE ON THE LIST AND THEN DISPOSE OF BODIES. IT WILL BE AS IF PEOPLE HAVE DISAPPEARED……..NO DIFFERENT THAN THOSE IN THE 70′S IN CHILE WHEN U.S. MIL/INTEL ASSETS PLANNED AND DIRECTED THE ALLENDE COUP FROM VENIA……OR THOSE IN ARGENTINA……..OR IN THE SLAUGHTER HOUSES OF HITLER, STALIN , OR MAO.
WHO EXACTLY IS ON THE “RED LIST” ……WHAT ORDER THEY WILL BE TAKEN IN…..OR IF COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO FAMILY OR FRIENDS IS ACCEPTABLE WAS NOT HEARD. APPARENTLY THIS WILL TAKE PLACE OVER MONTHS AS WE MOVE DEEPER INTO POLICE STATE HELL AND THE EXPECTED SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION WHICH TPTB KNOWS WILL ARISE IN 2009 AND 2010 AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE AND MANY WILL BE LITTERALLY STARVING OR IN WORK GANGS UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF REGIONAL MILITARY GOVERNORS.
SO, ONCE AGAIN I OFFER THIS AS A WATCHMAN’S WARNING AND PRAY THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN!
HOWEVER……..TO QUOTE CERTAIN SEARGEANT MAJOR FROM A RECENT MEL GIBSON MOVIE……
“GENTLEMEN……PREPARE TO DEFEND YOURSELVES” ……..of course this applies the LADIES AS WELL.
MAY JESUS CHRIST PROTECT US ALL FROM EVIL AND THOSE TYRANTS IN THE WORLD WHO WOULD USE US AS BLOOD SACRIFICE TO THEIR LUCIFER……..THEIR SO CALLED LIGHT BRINGER WHO WANTS YOUR SOULS AND WHO WARS AGAINST GOD IN HEAVEN AND HIS SON OUR SAVIOR JESUS.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:47 pm
I feel uncomfortable around Jews. I think its because I know what they think of me.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 am
I pretty much subscribe to all this too but it messes with my mind that the illuminati basically established this country. Why give us freedom in the first place only to take it away? Is it like Alex seems to claim that they are kind of developed our society so technology would flourish and they then could use the technology to live forever thereby thinking that they could use immortality to bypass judgement from God and the boundary of death itself? Hard to imagine but its possible. How else would you rectify that problem? That our country was founded by these people. Why would they created this nation and all this freedom?
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:21 am
Rather than rant and rave about all that is happening, mostly because I have been following this for what feels like an eternity(even though it has been only a few years; kinda feels like time itself has been sped up but its like I’m stuck in the old ebb of things if ya get me), I just have this to say. Find your souls. Start praying at night, you’ll be surprised. That world is just gonna get heavier on your shoulders realizing all the nuances of the insanity of men. If you really think about it, whether you take it symbolically or not, man, when able to walk in Eden with God in his presence and everything at his fingertips couldn’t even do the right thing. We have been destined for this. Start preparing yourselves, cause its coming, and soon. I’m not even a religious person…I can’t quote you the bible, I don’t always do the right thing, but i can feel it. I mean really feel it in my heart and mind. Can’t you? Trust me when I say slowing down and taking some time to think about who you are and why we are here, by your lonesome, is some of the best medicine you can get. Look inward to see outward. Just through introspection I have come to the conclusion that God is there. He is in you, too. For me, it’s sitting on the front porch as the sun goes down in nj (yeah, i said nj lol) that’s when i feel it the most. just find it, figure out what makes you feel it, something that is enjoyable so that you can focus on your own thoughts to hear voice. I dunno aite, love yall, peace
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 am
The Light of Stars
by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
(1807-1882)
THE NIGHT is come, but not too soon;
And sinking silently,
All silently, the little moon
Drops down behind the sky.
There is no light in earth or heaven
But the cold light of stars;
And the first watch of night is given
To the red planet Mars.
Is it the tender star of love?
The star of love and dreams?
Oh no! from that blue tent above
A hero’s armor gleams.
And earnest thoughts within me rise,
When I behold afar,
Suspended in the evening skies,
The shield of that red star.
O star of strength! I see thee stand
And smile upon my pain;
Thou beckonest with thy mailed hand,
And I am strong again.
Within my breast there is no light
But the cold light of stars;
I give the first watch of the night
To the red planet Mars.
The star of the unconquered will,
He rises in my breast,
Serene, and resolute, and still,
And calm, and self-possessed.
And thou, too, whosoe’er thou art,
That readest this brief psalm,
As one by one thy hopes depart,
Be resolute and calm.
Oh, fear not in a world like this,
And thou shalt know erelong,
Know how sublime a thing it is
To suffer and be strong.
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:23 am
…Ah-bdi… Now , that’s some serious quality work !!! Congratulations !!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 am
According to the latest public opinion polls, people in only three countries feel comfortable about the US foreign policy: Tanzania, Nigeria and South Africa. All the others think all the worst about it, though most of them don’t have negative attitude towards the American people. The only country where they say Americans are even worse than their politicians is China.
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:27 am
Why isn’t this interview available on podcast or mp3?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:12 am
i’m from holland and i’ve always known that Bernard was a dick
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 am
To Michael Collins, Refute this,
Being in dissent with the Catholic Church doesn’t mean you hate Catholic people. Also the Council on Trent and the Syllabus of Errors (since they bash religion and the Council on Trent bash dissenting views as well) have plenty of anti-liberty components on the level of other authoritarian works. Now, the Pope is not the Vicar of Christ nor the Holy Father, because only God is called the Holy Father even in the Bible. There is no such thing as a Eucharist. There is communion as representations of God. The Ustashis were Catholic murderers who murdered Jewish people, Gypsies, and Serbian people. “Witness to Jasenovac’s Hell” is a book writen by Ilija Ivanovic documenting these crimes. There were other Catholic dictators during WWII like Francisco Franco of Spain, Henri P. Petain of France, Joseph Tiso of Slovakia (He was a Jesuit priest as recorded in Edmond Paris’ “The Secret History of History of the Jesuits”), and Leon M. Degrelle of Belgium. THe Vatican Ratlines are read and other facts are real. The Popes have a mixed history on WWII, but they didn’t excommunicated the Papal fascists during WWII at all even when the Allies were winning the war.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:00 am
e of the Fourth Reich
“Reich” is a german word and means “empire”. The word “Reich” does not exist in english.
Yeah and the TV Nazi Alexander Jones supports a 4. empire ( 4. Reich ) Nazi. His name is
Ron Paul. Ron Paul supports the afghanistan war.
Alexander Jones is a Ron Paul Neo Nazi. While he supports the 4. Reich he can’t stop talking
about it – every day the same hypocrite show.
quote from Alexander “Neo Nazi” Jones:
“you’re going to find out from the true experts what is happening with the economy”
LOL. Alex calls himself an “expert” while he supports Ron Paul – the bloody killer of afghanistan?
Yeah Alexander Jones, you are an expert – an expert of being a LIAR, a FOOL, a VIPER, a BETRAYER,
a FALSE LEADER and a BLIND hater.
Alexander Jones is “warning” the people that the 4. Reich is coming while he supports it since he
supports Ron Paul , a guy who said yes to the afghanistan war.
You have blood on your hands Alexander Jones. Not only from shaking hands with Ron Paul but
from your “military/police ads” which was on your site which said “Become an elite leader in the
military / police” — oh Alexander you sent the people to iraq and afghanistan .. how many money
did you become for that ad banner ? And how many people did you catched through this ?
You have sold your soul to the devil Alexander. Your show can’t help you but you have “luck”
there are 1000s of blind people following you … worshipping you ..
You are CURSED Alexander Jones ..
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:14 am
I pray for all the world.father in heaven be our protection in this eve of darkness and penetrate the hearts of unbelievers and the weary and downtroden with your limitless power and love in jesus name amen.i love all of you,we will triumph.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:49 am
ANON # 45 Could your comment be any creepier. I swear to God I could not find one coherent thought in a considerably long comment. I couldnt even disagree if I wanted too because nothing makes sense. Are you really trying to convince website visitors that Alex Jones and Ron Paul are war mongerers? Have you lost your mind? I am not impressed. The spam mail in my Bulk Folder holds more weight than your thoughts, nonsense-spitting clone boy.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:00 am
Not to denigrate, but it wasn’t John Wayne who coined the phrase ‘No brag, just fact’. It was Walter Brennan in the ’70s TV series Guns of Will Sonnet. Sorry….you were saying?
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:11 am
anon is a blind traitor who wants the United States as we know it to cease to exist. If you believe what you are saying then you are a hypocrit. Alex Jones has never said he was/is an expert. He is just giving us the facts as he recieves them and that’s it. He finds the evidence, and then tells us about that evidence and it is clear that the evidence is a swift indication that we are headed toward dark times ahead. However, you are entitled to believe what you, and that is a fair assessment of you as far as I am concerned, unless you have other evidence to bring to the table? I didn’t think so…
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:17 am
On one hand what Mr. Marrs states in his books are substantiated by overwhelming facts. On the other, most of his audience are already aware of these things. My feeling on the matter is that we’re just about at the tipping point in this nation; either sink or swim folks and the life preservers are out. What’s it going to be?
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:22 am
I think Jim Marrs is a disinformation agent.He seem to consistently deny that these “nazis” are really
zionazis. He call Warburg a German , when he is a Jew.Everything in Jim Marr’s stories becomes
realistic if actors are called correctly and by name – Jews , not Germans, and Zionazis , not Nazis.
JM says the Nazis run the pro-Israel US policy.Then he says that the Illuminati was a German organization ,eventhough it’s leaders are known to be Jewish.Then again he says Illuminati members
were German aristocrats who were also members of Aryan secret societies.The German aristocrats who’ve despised the Jews would submit themselves under the command of Jews in a Jewish secret society?
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 am
September 25, 2001
Ron Paul speech in the House of Representatives
“Mr. Speaker, I support President Bush and voted for the authority and the money to carry out his
responsibility to defend this country, but the degree of death and destruction and chances of
escalation must be carefully taken into consideration.”
source:
http://www.house.gov/paul/cong.....092501.htm
People who follow Alex Jones and/or Ron Paul are STUPID MORONS.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Anon, you have obviously done your homework, but consider the following: most people were had in the immediate aftermath of the false flag operation commonly referred to as 9/11. And, just for the record, who would you support for President? Obama? McCain? Either way, it’s two paths to the same destination, so what are you suggesting? And as for those, myself included, who appreciate what Alex Jones covers, just what are YOU doing besides being an armchair activist?
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Hello “Fascist Dick Tater”,
well, you know, i wrote Alex Jones nearly 30-50 times about that Ron Paul case. His speech
and also all the videos on YOUTUBE where he says with his own words that he supports the
afghanistan war and in another video he says that 911 was no inside job.
Like said i wrote Alex 30-50 or more i don’t know and asked and please him to tell the people
in his show about the FACT that Ron Paul supports the afghanistan war and that he voted for
it.
You see, Alex Jones keeps his mouth shut. He don’t want that people hear this FACT / TRUTH.
He keeps you in position , he keeps people in illusions aka. his own world. He don’t wanna
hear it and he only cares about what is for him true but not about the truth.
I vote for GOD and JESUS. Period. Presidents are cursed. And also people like Ron Paul and
Alex Jones because they are FALSE leaders who are predicted already to come in this time.
I don’t have to tell you what i am doing. If you look for a guy who is showing you what he is
doing like a good movie star then keep on looking at Alex Jones and his followers. I don’t
care about such SHOWS.
Alex Jones SUCKS for not telling you that RON PAUL VOTED FOR THE AFGHANISTAN WAR.
Thank you Alex Jones! Keep the people in position where you want them! Your CURSE will
come for this VIPER action.
Thank you for hiding the truth from the public Alex Jones! Keep on censoring!
Thanks for reading!
GOD and JESUS may bless you “Fascist Dick Tater”.
Peace and blessings to all.
PS: and no, i do not hate Alex Jones … but when he is a BIG LIAR somebody has to tell it when
he keeps his mouth shut while claiming to stand for “the truth” ( his own truth )
..and now hate me folks and call me whatever you want … i mean: i really don’t care ..
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Hello “Fascist Dick Tater”,
well, you know, i wrote Alex Jones nearly 30-50 times about that Ron Paul case. His speech
and also all the videos on YOUTUBE where he says with his own words that he supports the
afghanistan war and in another video he says that 911 was no inside job.
Like said i wrote Alex 30-50 or more i don’t know and asked and please him to tell the people
in his show about the FACT that Ron Paul supports the afghanistan war and that he voted for
it.
You see, Alex Jones keeps his mouth shut. He don’t want that people hear this FACT / TRUTH.
He keeps you in position , he keeps people in illusions aka. his own world. He don’t wanna
hear it and he only cares about what is for him true but not about the truth.
I vote for GOD and JESUS. Period. Presidents are cursed. And also people like Ron Paul and
Alex Jones because they are FALSE leaders who are predicted already to come in this time.
I don’t have to tell you what i am doing. If you look for a guy who is showing you what he is
doing like a good movie star then keep on looking at Alex Jones and his followers. I don’t
care about such SHOWS.
Alex Jones SUCKS for not telling you that RON PAUL VOTED FOR THE AFGHANISTAN WAR.
Thank you Alex Jones! Keep the people in position where you want them! Your CURSE will
come for this VIPER action.
Thank you for hiding the truth from the public Alex Jones! Keep on censoring!
Thanks for reading!
GOD and JESUS may bless you “Fascist Dick Tater”..
Peace and blessings to all.
PS: and no, i do not hate Alex Jones … but when he is a BIG LIAR somebody has to tell it when
he keeps his mouth shut while claiming to stand for “the truth” ( his own truth )
..and now hate me folks and call me whatever you want … i mean: i really don’t care ..
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Anon,
Get a clue.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Stop NWO,
You’re a racist.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Justin,
You are a racist.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm
*************************EVERYONE PLEASE pray for ALEX to be STRENGTHENED and PROTECTED!!! THANKS!!!! and Good Luck!****************************************
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
There was absolutely no discussion between Mr. Marrs and Alex regarding anything Jewish. Yet how many writers ignore this fact? The point is that we are talking about nazis and the fact is that nazis are running this country and doing perverted things. Those who blame “the jews” for this are completely missing the point. The irony is that you who blame jews are secret nazis yourselves, as the nazis hated jews and exterminated six million. Have you no shame or decency? Obviously not. This time though, the jews won’t be the scapegoats. I wonder who it will be?
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Good one post 61
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
I add my prayer to yours post 46
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Here are two funnies, quiet popular in Russia, about our two presidents.
About Medvedev:
Vladimir Putin presented Dmitrii Medvedev with a car. “What a beautiful car! – Medvedev said. – Oh, how many diamonds, and gold, and everything! It must be so expensive… Thank you very much, Vladimir.” Medvedev sat down onto the driver’s place… “But, I’m sorry, where is the steering wheel?” – “Didn’t you think I would let you steer the wheel?!” – answered Putin.
About Bush:
Every morning of George Bush starts in the same way: Condoleeza Ryce comes to him and tells him, who he is and where he is.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Jim Marrs. Far too impressionistic, looking for symbols and signs everywhere. As Alex Jones does, too.
Back in the early 80’s this kind of writing was quite common, funded on the one hand by the End Times bunch, often connected to the Assemblies of God who historically have worked closely with the CIA (both inside the US and abroad), and on the other by covert CIA publishing houses. Is it AlexCIAda?
Palin’s connections are also to the Assemblies of God.
It’s a very tangled web. And they can weave it rather convincingly because they mix fact with fiction and it´s difficult to tease out which is which without a lot of research and critical thinking.
All of this makes one think of the work of Texe Marrs, e.g., “The Dark Secrets of the New Age” which was first published in 1988. These Christian conspiracy theorists repackage the “one world government” End Times-Revelations prophecy rhetoric. There is NO question that Texe Marrs belongs to the Sarah Palin contingent of Reconstructionist-Dominionist-Rapture Christians.
Do any of you see any similarity in content between this set of books dating back to the 1980s and what Jim Marrs (and Alex Jones) are selling today?
I continue to have serious doubts about who is financing all of these publications, videos, web sites, etc. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to discover that the money was coming from rather unexpected places….
Of course, none of what I’ve said diminishes the fact that there are dark forces trying to foist upon us, especially in the USA, a Big Brother-New World Order. That much is obviously true. The question is figuring out who is running which part of their media-propaganda operations. And is Alex and InfoWars helping them?
Up to this point the InfoWars clan seem to have too many things which don´t smell clean. Something is not straightforward with these folks — it´s not just report what´s going on and trying to do good, it´s report what´s going on + propaganda tailored toward certain agendas. Pure and simple. Which is unfortunate.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
@ truthseeker – ???? Uh? You better go back and LISTEN again to parts 2 & 3, dumby!
In fact! I know you missed everything they talked about in relation to religion, in this matter.
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Nope. Listened to the whole thing, all parts. I refer to the source/attitude behind the info presented.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Evil on a massive scale!
I just recently learned that Teddy Roosevelt was also an elitist eugenecist who beleived in human selective breeding. It must have been nice for him to be instantly awarded the rank of Lt Colonel for rough rider toops in the false flag Spanish American war.
Luciferic world bankers are some evil succers!
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Post 65 you said
All of this makes one think of the work of Texe Marrs, e.g., “The Dark Secrets of the New Age” which was first published in 1988. These Christian conspiracy theorists repackage the “one world government” End Times-Revelations prophecy rhetoric.
Good heavens man this didnt come from us its IN THE BIBLE
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:03 pm
In the Bible? The Bible is of value to many people (I personally feel it’s a psychological work — Christ being a state of being, etc) but to interpret it literally is absurd. Metaphorically it has value. In fact, the Bible, in my view, is FAR more beautiful when looked at metaphorically instead of literally. If you want to believe it is the word of God presented in metaphorical/allegorical form, I can respect that. But to interpret it literally is absurd. Does that mean there isn’t historical stuff in it? No. But that is different than literal. So, just because something is said in the Bible doesn’t mean it is literally true. Biblical scholars argue over the meaning of single words, so even they are incapable of specifying literal meanings. The point is: the Bible is interpreted differently by each person who reads it. Here’s a test: Ask a room full of people to each (individually) write the definition of JELLO. When they finish not a single one of them will have the exact same definition, and most of them will be significantly different. So something is said in the Bible? That’s nice, but the INTERPRETATION of what is said there is what it all comes down to. But, yet again, my point was not so much the info presented as the intention behind it. With this in mind I notice you did not address how the Assemblies of God have historically worked closely with the CIA and how Jim Marrs is connected with the Assemblies of God.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Many cult groups will give you 90% truth and mix in 10% propaganda that includes very carefully calculated ideas to sway you toward buying into their way of seeing things. 90% truth to hook you in, 10% to twist you toward thinking the way they want you to. (the percentages are put out here just as an example; they are variable, of course). So, are there evil mafia type goons (Bush, Cheney, Kissinger, Clinton, etc, etc) who want to bring in a New World Order and have everything run like an Orwellian police state? That seems quite true, if not obviously so. Just look around. But what is also true is that there are people out there (and very likely the InfoWars clan are part of this) who will draw you in the way salesmen do by getting you to say, “Yes, yes, yes. That’s true, yes. Yes.” And then while you are in the mode of thinking “yes” they will slip in some bullsh*t. Example: Alex Jones talks about how all people are good people, how Mexicans are good people in general, just like everyone else, but then he uses racist terms like “illegal alien.” (yes, it is racist in these days and times, do the research and apply common sense). Why is the website called “InfoWARS” and not “InfoPEACE”? Why is the other website called “PRISONPlanet” and not “FREEDOMPlanet?” Alex talks all the time about how important language is, how evil bad people are always manipulating language in order to control or affect our minds, so why promote the ideas of war and prison instead of peace and freedom? After all, if you had a huge, extensive, expensive, deeply important New World Order plan you’ve been working on for generations, if not centuries, wouldn’t you want to set up a guy like Alex to know who are the people out there who might actually provide some kind of resistance? Then shape their thinking toward x, y and z? I’d love to believe Alex isn’t some double or triple crossing CIA-agent type, that he’s truly trying to do good, but there’s just too much stuff that goes on that smells way too fishy. Alex does speak a lot of truth, which is refreshing to hear, but when he mixes in all this junk with it, it really becomes worrisome. Well, enough time spent on this stuff.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Posted this GREAT knowledge at a Freedom gun site today.
Tonight? The Powers that be shut off our electricity for 66 minutes…….
September 24th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Oh yeah I almost forgot. they shut off our electricity at 6 o’clock for 66 minutes.
September 24th, 2008 at 2:59 am
#71 Peter…
I don’t believe that the names of the websites are promoting war and prison, but instead are used to shock and awaken people to the reality that these are the ways of the NWO. Of course we would prefer peace and freedom, but that’s not part of the NWO plan.
September 24th, 2008 at 8:15 am
#58 truthseeker:
“Stop NWO,
You’re a racist.”
Is this your best argument? How about facts?
Do you know how many friends and acquaintances of other races I have?
Do you know what race I am? Am I jewish?
Is Israel Shahak a racist for exposing the evils of his fellow Jews?
September 24th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
#74. i understand what you’re saying, but it’s not a solid argument in my view. if we want to be standing on solid ground, we shouldn’t be using the same techniques and attitudes that those we oppose use. it’s like justifying the killing of some people in order to keep other people from killing more. sometimes that’s necessary, but we shouldn’t make it a habit or something we promote. and, after all, shock is not the only way to get people’s attention. truth, positive vibe, many other things work just as well, if not better. more flies with honey, my friend. if you were going to start a peace organization, would you call it “Fighting The Good Fight”? i don’t think so. you’d look for something promoting the idea of peace, right?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:20 am
I think it’s interesting to inspect Alex Jones’ misconceptions, to decide whether he is lying consciously or not. He ended up on 24 September claiming that 90% of Jews have no idea about the Illuminati, which in his view makes ‘the Jews’ as innocent as everybody else, statistically. This is clearly an over-simplification : most Jews know only too well that a small number of rich Jews control a large proportion of the world’s wealth, quite autocratically, and that these same rich Jews also control the access of the small Jews to all ‘Jewish’ resources (synagogues, burial plots, Jewish education, even jobs). This is not like the non-Jewish world – the control exercised by these few rich Jews on the small Jews is much more intense than the rest of us would accept, unless we also belonged to migrant minority communities, which often take on this ‘clientilist’ structure because their new host nations find it advantageous to leave them like that, and not ‘democratise’ them.
September 25th, 2008 at 4:30 am
I’ll tell you why in fact I think Alex does this, and it isn’t to protect any Jewish interests. It is because if you allow the entire ‘Old Testament’ to become discredited, you can no longer claim that as Christians you have inherited the supposed “chosen people” global franchise.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:15 am
One final thing: I mentioned in a previous comment that the Jews of the UK and the US at the time of the First World War were all in favour of a Russian Revolution, because they all regarded the Tsar and the Tsarist system as anti-Jewish. This sort of vengeful attitude is a repetitive leitmotif in Jewish history. The USA is also accused by many Jews of having collaborated with nazism, and thus of having importing nazism into itself. This is a good way of rationalising the collapse, which is in reality being induced primarily by Jewish professionals of various sorts.
September 27th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
so the nazis were communists then huh, maybe you should have told Stalin that so he could have alligned himself with hitler. The nazis were not communists by any regard no metter who gave them their financing. Hitler didn’t support the unions after he came to power like a communist would. He alligned himself with Mussolini and the imperial Japanese empire. In those countries industry ruled the legislature just like in the states today.
December 1st, 2008 at 4:08 am
This is all Kiddie Konspiracy stuff, laughable if it weren’t for the reality that so many are prepared to swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
I particularly liked the touch of the obviously doctored photo of Hitler and King Edward.
And inevitably, one of the usual droning Jew-haters online is compelled to poste endlessly with the now required Jews/Israel/Mossad tie-ins. Don’t these guys have jobs?
Every country with excess wealth diversifies it’s investments abroad, and has two-sided political relationships. No big secret or mystery.
Nazis had many of the best scientists on the planet, no big plot involved in the US importing them.
Mr Marrs cherry picks through history and pseudo-documentation assembling an interesting story that does not conform to anything those who do real research have learned and confirmed.
But believing everyone’s a victim to some mega-conspiracy, the media covers it up, but YOU know about it, appeals to a lot of people.