Think Progress
Wednesday 23rd July, 2008
On yesterday’s edition of The 700 Club, Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson sharply criticized the “moderate tone” the Bush administration has allegedly taken toward Iran and its nuclear weapons program. Robertson advocated that Israel look out for the “survival of its nation” and “make some kind of a strike” against Iranian nuclear facilities. He also predicted that it will likely happen before the 2008 elections:
But nevertheless, I think we can look in the next few months for Israel to make a strike — possibly before the next election — because I think George Bush — to use the term an “amber light” — he’s given the amber, the yellow light, saying, “Caution, but go ahead.”
Watch it:
Robertson’s predictions often turn out to be wrong. In 2004, Robertson claimed that the Lord told him it would “be like a blowout” re-election for President Bush. (Bush ended up receiving just 51 percent of the vote.) In 2006, he incorrectly predicted that “the outcome of the war and the success of the economy will leave the Republicans in charge.”
He does, however, have an inside track into the Bush administration. Last year, Robertson’s Regent University estimated that one in six of its graduates were employed in government work. Approximately 150 served in the Bush administration.
Today, top McCain surrogate Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) is also talking to controversial Pastor John Hagee’s organization. In 2006, Hagee declared:
The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West… a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ.
Other members of the right wing have also been unifying around the idea of striking Iran before Bush leaves. Both John Bolton and Bill Kristol have made the same argument.
(HT: Ari’s Freedom Switch)
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July 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Hmm Hugo Chavez has been in Russia all week.
Maybe a few Nuke tipped bombers from Russia,
Placed In Venezuela……………………..
Then Putin can tell Bush “Checkmate”
It would balance the power in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Patriot is a Militiaman who readies himself everyday In Quiet FURY!!!!
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Stupid looney godamn Christians the rapture was made up by John Nelson Darby the whole end times thing is just a bunch of peoples interpretations of thing they don’t understand.Anybody who does just “vanish” is probably on the red list and on their way to an extermination camp
July 23rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Rocky, you can’t blame all of us for a few nut cases out there anymore than I can blame you for all the stupid stuff non Christians do. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, they are the ones that get all the attention because they make the most noise.
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
real christians would never support war
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
stupid loony christian fanatics – these are the “Christian Terrorist Imams” – It so funny that our religious fanatics here convince the government to bomb the world but when they do it in the middle east they are called terrorists. Hagee, Robertson etal are a bunch or Christians terrorist bent on bringing about the end times by means of war between the arab world and Israel. I wish it would be over already and all the fools would be convinced that the way to heaven is to join the military and fight for Israel or kill themselves. Please Christians remove yourselves from the gene pool as quickly as possible and take the Islamists with you.
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Those religious fakers. A pre-emptive strike against Iran is not in bible prophecy and they know it. They are so obviously bought off by the government to push their propaganda to the masses, because they know their flocks are so trusting that they would never question anything they said to them.
July 23rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Barking mad like a rabid dog, should all be put down. How dare they presume the many miss-translated words of shepherds and stone tool wielders of 2000 yrs ago should be taken as verbatim.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:47 pm
His recommendation serves 2 purposes. 1) It helps the Republicans, many of whom generously “tithe” at Robertson’s church, and 2) It helps put more scared people in the pews when we go to war. Both of which, mean more money and prestige for Robertson. As a simple rule of thumb, I don’t trust ANYTHING anyone with any kind of power over others tells me is the truth.
Politicians learned all of their tricks from the clergy. Including the proper way to molest young boys/interns, stamp out education (think the Catholic-caused Dark Ages, the insistence that the Earth was flat and the center of the universe, the fight over evolution, etc), kill those who disagree with you, incite panic and terror, convince people to give you their hard earned money, the list is endless.
The only nice thing about the New World Order will be its insistence on an end to religious wars and zealots.
July 23rd, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Outlaw Christianity Now. The Bible is a piece of trash. Christians needs to be put in mental hospitals to be re-educated or be put to death.
Join the Atheist Party and help outlaw christianity.
Vote the Atheist Party for Congress.
Support the Atheist Constitution and kill all Christ freaks. Christ was dead 2000 years and he’s still dead today.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm
well they these masters of the universe must be doing the best drugs in the world,we should send them all to the front lines to fight first wait! lets be fair,and their families and supporters and when they come back (HOPE NOT) we can give them a all expense paid trip to mars one way. well if they dont make it name some sewer plants after these peices of S#IT.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
well they these masters of the universe must be doing the best drugs in the world,we should send them all to the front lines to fight first wait! lets be fair,and their families and supporters and when they come back (HOPE NOT) we can give them a all expense paid trip to mars one way. well if they dont make it name some sewer plants after these peices of malorganite.
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Robertson is a Charismatic gov. yuppie.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:35 pm
#4 Amen! I was against the Iraq war from the beginning and I’m a Christian. Jesus would not support this garbage!
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I guess 51 percent of the vote is rather like a blowout, considering Billy C. won with 47 percent of the vote.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:42 pm
PHONY FAKE CHRISTIAN
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 pm
who cares what Pat Robertson says? Who cares what Alex Jones says? All you do is talk. Jesus was not a real person. There are no masters of the world. You’re all trapped in fear and ignorance
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Pat Robertson and John Hagee are anti Christs, false prophets. It is sad that they have such a large following. We must pray for the many, many followers that they have duped. There are many Christians who have been misled to think that God has blessed the geopolitical nation state of Israel. It is a gross misunderstanding of the Bible. The Israel of God are those who are submitted to Christ, Jew or Gentile. Those who support the geopolitical state of Israel may get their Armaggedon, but it won’t turn out the way they think. Israel may end up being an extended beach on the Mediterrean to be used by the Palestinians.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
When the LORD speaks or tells something to someone and it turns out to be false or incorrect…………..one thing is for sure. The LORD “did not” speak to that person. for if it came from THE LORD it would be right 100% of the time. Take what Pat Robertson says with a grain of salt.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
http://www.thereignofchrist.org and http://www.veritas144k.com
666 The first six is Freemasonry. The second six is Zionism. The third six in the ‘Unholy Alliance’.
The great harlot
The first of these two sixes is the great harlot, the union of Zionism and Freemasonry!
Their objective as stated above is to have total dominion over the entire
earth through monetary and government control.
The great harlot descends the entire populace of the world into abject slavery. This
process is already in place, and is escalating to its diabolical
conclusion. It is through unfair and excessive taxation, and the
power of arrogance that they have established their tyranny,
knowing what is written: “all things obey money”.
The Unholy Alliance
The third ‘six.’
The Unholy Alliance
The ‘unholy alliance’ presently consists of: Russia, China, N.
Korea, Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Serbia,
Sudan, and Libya. This is the core group of those who oppose the
True God, and they are already conceived, formed, and in
operation. Other countries are being added to it, and it will consist
of all the Islamic countries.
It must be noted here that Islam is the
monotheistic religion of the Muslims, and have for their goal a
theocratic government of world dominance, based on their error.
Please visit http://www.thereignofchrist.org for a complete download of 666 and Understanding of the Apocalypse!
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
I have a great link for everyone who wants to try to understand the Israeli/Zionist mind.
You will be amazed.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:23 pm
EradicatePowers, your views on 666 are retarded
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Another false Christian. This is the worst when a man who makes his living “praying” for people and yet advocates for criminals the Horrendous death of innocent people can do something this lame. Who ever gives Pat a dime of their money is just as guilty for any death that this man promotes.
Pat, you are a sick man and you will roast in hell with W an his cronies right after you take poppy Bush’s dick out of your mouth.
You would think that with all the bush criminals preemptively pardoning themselves and ditching congress people like this would know when to shut their stupid mouth. Pat, you sold your soal to the devil with this one.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
In response to Oprah’s Clit Says:
I guess you will find out who and what is real in the end wont you ??
“The FOOL says in his heart, there is no GOD”
You cannot argue with nature!
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
YEEEEEEE HAWWWWWW!
The Christian holy warriors must unite to wipe the infidels off the face of the earth!
Only then can the poor helpless jews be safe amongst the many oil wells which America will present to Israel as a gift for being such a wonderful parasite!
YES! Christians Unite!
I have got to say that sumbitch definitely drank to much Jesus Juice.
Pat Robertson, I have to say exemplifies many christians today, and I mean the hardcore zealots. They do not tolerate tolerance!
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Robertson? About what I would expect from a guy whose real God is $money$, just like 99.9% of the rest of the phony Christian 501c3 Judas 30 pieces of silver Christian fakes. Did John the Baptist wear a suit and tie? Did he hob nob with politicians, and behave “politically correct”?
A quick study of John the baptist will quickly reveal just how pathetic and phony todays preachers really are. I reccomend reading KJV Matthew, and Luke.
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Had a great comment on this , On the Willie Nelson page , MAN i’m getting old . I hope we get this fight
on soon before I become completely senile .
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Pat Robertson is not a Christan. He is just as fake and evil as Fox News is!
July 23rd, 2008 at 9:58 pm
The so called star of David is really a symbol from the mystery religons.
It has 6-points, 6-traingles and 6-lines.
Hagee and Robertson are really pushing for the end times. These idiots think if they build a temple and start a war that Jesus must come back. There is nothing in the New Testamament about this love affiar with the government of Isreal and killing muslims for Jesus. These evangelicals live in the Old Testamant and ignore the words of Jesus.
Its sad that our leaders are following lies. Obama accepted a false Jesus idiol from India and gave a speech at the Temple of Hercules another follow of lies.
We are in a load of trouble…. Read the Matthew to Revelatiion and pray for understanding
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Its sad reading all these anti-christian comments. It’s no wonder if all you here are these evangelical hillbilly preachers and the pope. The real Christians follow every word out of the mouth of Jesus. You will find no mention of Crusades, inquisitions, kill muslims for jesus, judge everyone else’s sins. Please read the New Testament before you pass judgement on us. Jesus is the real deal, a historic figure in history and his life, miracles and words can be proven in a legal sense.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Wake up America, there is an Instruction Book The Word of god, shews us the Truth if we will Humble ourselves and examine the things that are to come to pass. these men like P. Robertson,Hagee,La Haye,G.Jeffrey,D. Reagan,H.Sutton,H.Lindsey,Van-Impe,Parsley,Osteen, and others are false teachers. IIpet.2:1,2. Yes there are Wars, Rumors of Wars spoken of in the Word of God. There are 10 Political Kingdoms that must be put in place. 9 of them are in place, and the 10th one has been in Isolation for 20 years. It is the W.E.O.G. and it is Israel and the Arab Nations. then there is a false peace set in place. this must take place before a massive War and destruction is to be. then the Son of Perdition shuts down the banks and shews His works to the people. the people must have the Knowledge to reject His Works, and keep their Soul’s from a tormented Hell. Yes it is the last Testimony that Jesus gave to John for your profiting. These men like Robertson and the rest care nothing for the Soul’s of men, or they would preach the Day of Vengeance of our God and comfort al that mourn. Yes Wake up America. A Servant of the God of Israel.joedr@theriver.com
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:38 pm
I’ll be the first to dance on that jerk’s grave….. he’s due.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Praise Jesus maybe Pat and the Neocons can precipitate ww3 and force Jesus to return.
This guy doesn’t even have a clue.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall bee called the children of God.
July 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Pat Robertson …….yet again showing what a wonderful example of humanity……he’s not
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
I sent Pat Robertson an email today abusing him abouth his state of Israel worship…hes worse than these freemasons he must be held to task…he is a massive false prophet
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Wake up K. You know your mind is like the earth, it does not care what you plant, it will only return what you plant. You just be patient my friend, and very soon you will face three men and their Works. this Jesus that you say don’t exist, gave you a testimony for your profiting. you will soon face 3 men, and if you accept their Works, you will be right there in Hell with them. I fear for people who have not the ability to examine themselves and the things that are being put in place to bring massive destruction upon mankind. I remember my Daddy told me to get the wood in, and when I did not get it in, He came to my bedroom with a razor strap. My Daddy hit me very hard, and I told Him oh no Daddy don’t hit me, and He said oh yes Son them that can’t hear must feel. You people who can’t hear will soon face the destruction and feel the Wrath of a loving god who is Angry at unbelief. there is still time to get Knowledge and understanding of the evil works that is being put in place, and how to escape from it. as for Dinosaurs they were brought about by Satan, who is the father of lies. A Servant of the God of Israel joedr@theriver.com
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:34 pm
pure.f---ing.hatred.I.feel.for you.all..absolutely.sickening.
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Joseph Daniel Riley, I hope those three men you are talking about are down for sex! No wonder your dad told you to pull your wood out and spank him with it! Stop preaching you turd!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Some people on this site are so ignorant or so mislead. They claim that Jesus never existed. There are written records from the first century A.D. in which early Christian leaders wrote to each other and from their letters we can reproduce the whole book of the Revelation. So we know that that book as written by John is authentic. Whether you believe John’s writings are another story. They accepted John’s prophecy very early on. Many other letters of the disciples have been quoted by those first century pastors as well. They knew Paul, who knew the other disciples. It is just ludicrous to say there is no evidence for a historical Jesus. That is like saying you don’t care if firemen said there were bombs in the buildings, there is no EVIDENCE that there were bombs in the buildings.
I’d like to see some of you put together 66 different books over thousands of years so that they all tell a story which fits together so perfectly as the Bible. The prophecies tell you what is happing right now–right up to the mark of the beast in people’s foreheads or hands–about the coming NWO under the anti-Christ, about all the world becoming so upset with Israel that it wants to attack her–about the Jews accepting him as their Messiah. Jesus said: I come in my father’s name and me ye will not accept, another will come in his own name, and him ye will accept.
Who would have thought this say, even 100 years ago? People laughed about the reforming of Israel, even though the prophecies said she would be reborn as a nation. The Bible said the Jews will find no peace, yet they will be so weary they call for it, and that anti-Christ will bring a false one. Why is Isreal, little Isreal the bone of contention? Why do the scriptures say in Zachariah about the last days:
2] Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
[3] And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it
What are the Palastians and Israelis fighting over? Jerusalem. Since when and why will all the peoples of the earth be gathered together against Israel? Well, if half of the world feels anything like the posters on this site, I think I can tell you why. Doesn’t this seem extremely odd to anyone? I mean, a little country in the middle of nowhere that didn’t really exist until 1948 and the Bible warns you about what will happen after it is reformed in the end times? Coincidence? Well, I might as well believe in all the coincidences of 9-11 as that. No, I would definitely say there is a “God conspiracy” going on here. God gives you prophecies not for parlor games but to show you that he is outside of time, that he is in charge and he knows what is going to happen next.
What sort of evidence would you like–a stone image of Jesus–so that if it is written in stone it must be true and must be believed?
Even Jewish writings talk of a Jesus who practiced magic that he learned in Egypt and claims that he was the illigitimate son of a Roman soldier. While this is not a flattering appraisal of Jesus, what would you expect from those who wished to discredit him? What would you expect from the skeptics who would not believe in miracles–why it must be Egyptian magic they exclaim! What did the Jews say to Jesus in the scriptures when they wanted to taunt him: we know who our father is. Obviously, they wanted to cast aspersions upon his brith.
So just keep repeating to yourself “God is imaginary, etc.” over and over as you did in your post. Like Cheney, I suppose if you repeat a lie over and over eventually some people come to believe it. But the truth is still the truth.
As for Pat Robertson, he also wanted to attack and kill some leaders in Africa and I heard that he had huge shares in diamond mines over there which may have influenced his decision greatly. The Bible says that these people have their reward right here right now, but that Jesus will say to them on judgement day: depart from me for I never knew you.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:23 am
In my opinion, Pat Robertson is an asshole. Many claim to be Christian and are actually Free Rite Masons.Many claim to be Christian and are devils hiding behind the Lamb.
Why Robertson continues to get press is beyond me, unless it’s part of the plan to stir up trouble.
Just like Jesse Jackson and that STUPID Al Sharpton.
To post #32,KJ; God is NOT imaginary. Religion is. The name “Jesus Christ” means “annointed one”. His name was Jmmanuel, and he certainly DID exist and still does. He is Elohim. Do not
blame God for your inability to find the Heartlight. Find a teacher, but stay away from zealots. I
tell you, Our Heavenly Father exists. I have witnessed too many miracles to think otherwise. And
He isn’t the one creating chaos, Mankind is.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:58 am
REPENT OR PERISH!
REPENT OR PERISH MEANS TURN OR BURN. IF YOU DON’T TURN FROM YOUR SINS AND/OR FALSE RELIGION YOU WILL BURN FOREVER IN HELL FIRE AFTER YOU DIE.
YOU MIGHT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST BUT IF YOU DON’T TURN FROM YOUR SINS YOU ARE STILL A SINNER ON YOUR WAY TO A BURNING HELL BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE IS A HEAD KNOWLEDGE BUT YOU NEED A HEART BELIEF IN LOVE.
YOU CANNOT LIVE LIKE THE DEVIL AND EXPECT TO GO TO HEAVEN.
SURRENDER YOUR LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST AND LIVE FOR HIM. THEN YOU WILL BE TRULY LIVING A NEW LIFE FROM GOD.
THERE IS NO SALVATION WITHOUT REPENTANCE. RESTITUTION IS PROOF A PERSON HAS REPENTED. [Luke 19:7-9, Acts 26:20]
Jesus said; Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luke 13:3,5 (King James Version)
The Bible says;
1. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils,
and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders,
nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Revelation 9:20,21
2. Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and
to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:7
3. He that covereth his sin shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. Proverbs 18:13
4. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators [sex before marriage], nor idolaters,
nor adulterers. Nor effeminate [men acting feminine], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [homosexuals], nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers [people who use foul language], nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. I Corinthians 6:9,10
5. Jesus said; For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it. For
what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:35,36
6. So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:33
July 24th, 2008 at 1:03 am
westernised controlled lazy satanic christianity vs BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY
read
paganchristianity http://www.paganchristianity.org
the westernised fat lazy sunday version of it, is rubbish…
sigh…
July 24th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Pheonix. Give yourself a check. First off, the Bible does not perfectly fit together, for there are many contradictions within. Second of all, you say there are written records proving Jesus existed as a human. What do you know? Third of all, if you decided to start doing some research, you’d right away find that the story of a Savior born of a Virgin (Virgo) who died on a cross and resurrected after three days has been told in cultures way before Christianity (Hindu????). Now the problem with all you people is that as soon as you see information like this, somthing in your brain tells you not to be tempted by Satan, and that all things against the Word of the Bible are the work of the devil. This is why many people died under the name of Christianity. Jesus in all ways reflects the characteristics of the Sun and the zodiac
July 24th, 2008 at 1:07 am
Pat Robertson is a freemason and a satanist. The following webpage showing him making a freemasonry sign and also flashing a satanic hand signal proves it:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar.....diablo.htm
July 24th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Evil is as Evil does.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:20 am
I don’t think any comment I can leave would enlighten you more than Pat Robertson saying Israel should bomb people.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:38 am
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July 24th, 2008 at 3:44 am
you ignorant lonely lost pathetic souls should learn that A: atheistic nations have killed & enslaved more people than anybody throughout history B: just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist… it just means you can’t see it C: evolution is the biggest lie & brainwashing tool & enabler of the nwo (as hitler used it as an excuse justifying genocide of lower forms of human life… hence the jews & other ethnic groups) D: that without God there is no wrong nor right E: evolution is a tax payer supported religion… yes a religion & it’s believed by faith & fought for with religious zeal… cause no one was around billions of years ago to see it happen. you have to believe it happened.
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July 24th, 2008 at 4:00 am
JESUS is the Only hope
ISLAM is not the way
JESUS is the way the truth and the LIFE
the Koran is full of death and curses
wicca bible is full of death and curses
and both are of the same demons and devils
so try JESUS you cant fail
July 24th, 2008 at 4:10 am
Blessed Hope Says:
July 24th, 2008 at 4:00 am
JESUS is the Only hope
ISLAM is not the way
JESUS is the way the truth and the LIFE
the Koran is full of death and curses
wicca bible is full of death and curses
and both are of the same demons and devils
so try JESUS you cant fail
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
I get the jest of what you are saying, but Wiccans do not have a bible.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:18 am
Blessed Hope,
I am a Christian, and I don’t believe in Islam, but if you are one of those Christian Zionists that think God needs your help to protect Israel or fulfill prophecy, I have news for you. God does not need your help, or the help of your antichrist President (There is more than one antichrist. If you don’t believe me, read your bible. Look it up. I would suggest starting with the Gospel of Matthew, and reading it all the way through.)
By the way, your president is an active wiccan/pagan. Skul and Bones, Bohemian Grove– they are pagan 100%, and not good pagan. Yes, there were good pagans as there were good and bad Jews (Gosh, he said there were bad Jews!) Just as there are good and bad “Christian.”
Some “Christians” advocate violence, and warfare, and even preemptive warfare in contradiction of everything Christ stood for as well as Christian tradtion going back to Saint Augustine and Saint Thomas Aquinas (I know. Go look them up as well.)
Pat Robertson has proven himself another Illuminati antichrist advocating this violence against Iran. Wake up Maybe Islam is not the way. (Personally, I believe it is not.) However, 99% of Christianity is not the way either. Broad is the gate, but narrow is the path and few there are that walk upon it. Again, look it up.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:33 am
Instead of putting everyones religion down, which leads to alot of wars, why dont you try respecting each other. Not everyone has the same way of getting to God, its whats in our heart that God knows. There are so many religions in this world and it will always be that way, so instead of putting this one or that one down, try being respectful. You dont have to agree with someones religion, but respect the fact that everyone has their way to God, and respect that God is the ultimate judge on all of us, not a human.
For those of you that keep saying the Quran is full of death curses, I challenge you to give me your evidence. I want you to site the places in the Quran that you state support vioence and death…….you wont find it. If you cant back it up, then shut your disinformation mouth, it makes you look really stupid.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:36 am
Pat Robertson, you are insane. But nothing personal, when Jesus comes back, what will he say when you ask him why he doesnt acknowledge you? Did you know him, for real, or were you self delusioned and lost in a world of lights, camera action? His spirit is not one of accusation, but forgiveness. His spirit is one of understanding, not ignorance and hate and venom. So i ask you sire, will you know christ if he returned?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:39 am
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has a post up that cooked my noodle with a strange theory..check it out.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:53 am
i see nothing but ignorance in some posts.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:07 am
I hope that this closet satanist, free mason hand sign flashing scum bag doesnt fool anyone any more.
And the Rapture is a satanic lie. And this guy is pro abortion.
13*
July 24th, 2008 at 5:19 am
this man is nuts.
off his rocker
he doesn’t speak for christians as he is a self imposed false prophet and leader of the church.
because he has oodles of cash, owns tv stations, diamond mines in africa, and uses donations from others and the government (taxes faith based government agency.) to do ‘good deeds’, doesn’t mean he has anything relevant to say.
People mistake money and privilege and fame for intelligence.
Even his presidential pick was based on what would be an advantage to his money stream and the bring on the rapture mentality. It had zero to do with the welfare of this country or the people, or freedom or christianity.
There is key discernment missing and not working here
The book of Revelation is not a foreign policy manual.
Alot of these pseudo christian neo-cons want to ‘bring it on’; stir up the hornets nest, and then want to sit back and get raptured out of the mess they created.
Question: what if you don’t?
Like others, he blathers ‘prophecy’ that never comes to pass.
Why does anyone listen to him anyway-
(oh, yes…he has money)
If you christians have forgotten, the bible states (paraphrased):
If a man calls himself a prophet and his words do not come to pass he is not a prophet and you are to not listen to him or be afraid of him or pay him any attention.
God is not senile that he would blather words to his prophet that are not true to keep the people guessing.
(remember the major nuclear accident supposed to happen in northern california years ago?…uh huh)
A true prophet hears and speaks accurately. And it does come to pass.
He is not.
He is a politician, buying his way in like the rest of them.
Every time I see him open his mouth, I want to scream..’shut up!’
You cannot control God, you cannot control the days and times and Jesus is not your lackey to do your bidding.
If he wants to get rid of all the ‘evildoers’ then I suggest he start housecleaning in his own head and perhaps actually read his bible.
Yeah, like christians are gonna take over the world and then hand it to Jesus and say look what we’ve done!
Sorry, but the only people that can screw up this world this much in this fashion are men who ignore God.
In case you haven’t noticed, there are many christians in government and most of them are as screwed up or worse than their counterparts. We need more like this??????
I guess we didn’t need Him to come at all, cause we can do it by our sainted selves.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:39 am
Hmmmm…
We didn’t get to see the part right before that when Ol’ Pat asks for money, and then the part right after that when O’l Pat asks for money, or after the commercial break when Ol’ Pat asks for money.Also, something must be wrong with him because I didn’t notice his head shaking and bobbling this time. Maybe the Lord told him to take some new meds.
For being such an important “Christian leader,” what Pat says in that video doesn’t seem to have a very Christian attitude. I like how he nicely says Bush gave the “go ahead,” continuing to brainwash the elderly and faithful fanatics into believing the CBN agenda and his FALSE PROPHECIES!
Hey, Pat, I know God. I know who He is. I know what God is.
1 John 4:7 “God is Love.” SIMPLE!
(so send money or accept their Christian fear or you will go to Hell!)
July 24th, 2008 at 5:43 am
LOL You JESUS and ISLAM whackos KILL me!
Not only are you brainwashed into believing there is a savior BETTER then all the rest, he is the truth blah blah blah…..but you PREACH about him in public…..
YOU are GOD….ALL of US are CREATIONS children…..every f---ing one of us are bothers and sisters…
NEVER MIND THE RELIGIOUS HYPE!!! ITS PROPOGANDA!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 5:45 am
Another deranged, religious charleton that should be horsewhipped within an inch of his deceitful, cunning, money grabbing life!
The rest of you religious nutters might as well go and book yourselves into an asylum for the religiously deluded (after you have been horsewhipped within an inch of your lives).
I am fed up with the religious “brainwashed bulls---” that continually gets spewed out on these forums.
The biggest money grabbing, brainwashing, controlling invention ever to exist!!!
Stick your deluded brainwashed beliefs up your pathetic manipulated arses, “and f--- right off once and for all”
July 24th, 2008 at 6:03 am
SINCE THERE IS NO LONGER TIPS @ INFOWARS
Denver police / media ‘training the public’ to be handcuffed and taken ‘away for their safety’.
http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspx?aid=57851
Is this really the police first rodeo at a bank robbery? How could the police think for one minute after talking to the ‘victims’ that a second bank robber is still in the bank?
The local media does their part and ‘SELL’ the ‘handcuffing’ victims is ’standard procedure’.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Every f---ing conversation ends like this one.
Instead of being on topic and saying this guy in the vid has serious issues; we get all you f--- tards praising JESUS.
The amazing thing is you believe he will wisk you away from all this.
Well up to now he never has helped any group of people facing annihilation due to war.
But of course he will now, since all of you talk to him daily.
We need free thinkers in this movement that will work together for a common goal.
What we don’t need is a bunch of disillusioned tards who can’t think for them selves.
You have your right to religion; but what the f--- does that have to do with this video or these messed up people in the government?
I want a new and better system/government, but not at the expense of being in a world where most people can’t think for themselves without a bible in their hands.
Common people have some faith in yourself and not in some book.
Once you believe in yourself then you will start believing in others also.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Man, I sure agree Aussie.
If I didn’t know better I would swear they are all dis info idiots doing it to through us off.
If this is what’s left, then the world is better off starting again.
Time for a reboot because this world/comp is way to f---ed up judging by this ass backwards s---.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:34 am
How Christian of Robertson HEHEHE
Beat the international bankers at their own game……secure your finances or become debt free!
http://www.becomericher.info
July 24th, 2008 at 6:41 am
#65
“You have your right to religion; but what the f--- does that have to do with this video or these messed up people in the government”?
what it has to do with this vid is whom is speaking and what he is advocating.
Mr. Robertson holds himself out to be a ‘christian’ leader, but his walk does not match
He has allied himself with the corrupt world monetary/poltical systems and is misleading many who follow him to follow blindly and let him do the thinking for them.
That is the danger.
You cannot separate what and how people think and believe with their actions.
Actions follow thinking and beliefs
Everyone is entitled to believe what they choose – or believe in nothing by their free will.
Just do not impose and force your craziness on me.
No matter what you believe in
July 24th, 2008 at 6:52 am
what kills me about these people on there is that they are all claiming Gods will Gods way and peace but its just funny how its right out in the open how they are FAKES!
July 24th, 2008 at 7:10 am
“truthers”… What a joke. How can anyone call themselves that (which sounds like it was made up by 13 year olds for a South Park episode) and still blindly support religion?
Here’s some ‘Good Morning Truth’ for ya:
Scientifically we can know 2 things.
1) Matter can be neither created, nor destroyed, and yet it exists all around us.
2) There is no spontanteous generation of life. Flies do not come from rotting meat, rocks can’t get up and begin speaking, and life didn’t come from some vat of primordial ooze. And yet life exists all around us.
These two facts point to the existance of a being of greater power than humans, but it doesn’t tell us if that being is still alive, or not. It doesn’t tell us of that being’s will, its plan for us, etc. It just tells us that we can rationally, reasonably assume that there was/is a greater being.
Religion, on the other hand, is clearly demonstrated as being a construct of the human mind. We cannot scientifically say that this religion or another is the correct one. We CANNOT know which is right, and which is wrong. And with multiple “One True Way” religions, that is what they are asking you to do. Pick a side based on the ramblings of people from 2000+ years ago who still thought the Earth was flat and the center of the Universe. Unfortunately, as soon as a religion gains power, it begins acting in a very non-religious kind of way. Have no faith in anything created by humans, it is fallible, imperfect, and seeks to institute some level of control over you (mostly to try and get you to tithe your money to the preacher). Do not blindly support any religion, because they are most probably wrong about their beliefs (Just like 99% of what most humans believe).
And for all of you who think to post some crazy religious sheep response to this, remember: There is nothing like a bunch of pious bleeting to discourage unwanted questions. Even if the questions might be good for you to consider.
Need proof of what I say? The Gospels were written by the Disciples for the Roman criminal court system. We’ve based our legal system on theirs, and both required sworn testimony. That’s what the Gospels are, sworn testimony to the Roman courts. EVERY disciple wrote one. Why did only four get included in the Bible? Could it be bacause one of those Gospels tells us of Jesus having homosexual relations with a boy? Could it be because a couple of those Gospels hinted at Jesus having sexual relations with Mary Magdaline? Could it be that, after the fact of his death, a quick reread of the testimony provided made the deity seem too much like a man to be worshipped?
July 24th, 2008 at 7:38 am
If you’re under fifty and you don’t live in a double wide on welfare then you don’t listen to Pat Robertson. Isn’t this the same “Christian” that called for an assassination attempt on a politician?
Who would Jesus assassinate?
Alan Moore’s “Comedian” character seems more and more accurate. The NWO is running a giant, sick joke that only a madman can understand.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:41 am
332-KJ The reason the bible goes back 6,000 years is because that’s when the Adamic race started, it was they that were mandated to be caretakers of the earth. The rest of the races were here already for many years before God created the Adamic race. The bible is written for and about one peolpe-Isreal. Modern Isreal-they are Khazarian descent converted to Judism around 850 A.D.
The modern churches are filled with false teachings and many well-meaning but naive Christians have bought into them. There are many mis- translation in the bible. That is the reason why there are contradictions in the bible you have to go back to Farrah Fenton version to get a more accurate translation.
Pat Robertson is a satanist turd, so is Haigee. Why do you think they get big media slots. Wake Up naive Christians and foolish atheists. America is under judgement.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Hey off_thegrid, you too will become a victim of illegal alien crime you fool! It’s just a matter of time, dumbass! Yeah, I read your foolish reply to my supposed “rant”. Why don’t you address any of the points I made, which are indeed facts regarding this foreign invasion from the south, instead of being a bleeding heart liberal idiot who actually thinks that these parasites want to be friends with you. Truth is, they hate you, me, and all Americans, that is if you really are one. Illegal aliens are murdering Americans every day, as well as committing a whole host of other crimes in this country. Don’t be a traitor to your fellow Americans! But you won’t listen, until you yourself become a victim. Then you’ll change your tune. BLACKFOOT NATIVE AMERICAN BLOOD guarantees me the right to say whatever I want. BUILD A WALL AND DEPORT THEM ALL!
July 24th, 2008 at 7:50 am
I”ve got to add this in the mix.
I think it’s hilarious that the tolerance, multiculturalism and diversity crap that is forced on society is just working so well!
I also think it is hilarious that everyone (or mostly everyone) says to steer clear of religion and politics in any type of discussion. Avoid it at all costs because you’ll get heated arguments and anger.
However, what it all boils down to is religion and politics and who’s BELIEFS you’ll follow and agree to.
This nation birthed a constitution for all to abide by and live by.
Not a religion
All people were welcome here, of all faiths and beliefs
With no constitution and declaration for all to live by one is left with chaos and no agreement whatsoever.
bicker bicker bicker
i don’t care what or who you believe in or follow; i’ll still treat you with respect because you are a fellow human being.
I will listen to what you have to say. Just do not insist and force and bully
God doesn’t even do that
July 24th, 2008 at 7:51 am
MY GOD CAN BEAT YOUR GOD LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 8:01 am
stooge or stupid? either way a fool!
July 24th, 2008 at 8:48 am
I ‘ve read a few blogs here. It is amazing to me that some of the people here can talk about a God
or no God but I will tell you this my friends.
There is A God and you are not him . Not ONLY That. The fact is you will be going to a casket some day and we will see if you believe in A God then and how brave you are.
Oh YEA, You can bet on it. The day is coming when you wil die, so, now that that is over, here is the deal…
Jesus is the Lord of Heaven and Earth if you choose to believe now on him then you will live with him 4 ever on streets of gold with peace and no more crying. Or on the other hand, there is a devil and he is real, why, you are living in his actions on this world right now just look around.
If you DO NOT choose Jesus be not dismayed… You choose the devil, PERIOD! AND if that is the case. The end result is death and ETERNAL TORMENT!
This is the truth. Your Choice!
Your Friend In Jesus
July 24th, 2008 at 8:59 am
He just tells people what they want to hear so they will keep sending in money so Pat can ask GOD to do something. Pat, GOD called and he said for you to STFU!!
July 24th, 2008 at 9:06 am
what a shame to the religon!
discusting
July 24th, 2008 at 9:12 am
You’re confusing religion with Christianity.
July 24th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Its funny how people threaten others with eternal damnation. I would pose this question…is it possible to burn or torch a soul with fire? I would say I doubt it because then if anyone died in a fire they would be eternally erased (obviously not true). So why should I be worried about spending an eternity in a firey grave? Why subject yourself to an idea like this?
You can live in fear the rest of your life by giving in to organized religion, and fanatics like Robertson, or join the rest of those with eternal conciousness and fear nothing. We are but a physical manifestation of our soul within a very small period of an infinite journey.
Your friend in eternity and outside of this small world…peace.
July 24th, 2008 at 9:39 am
This man must be charged with conspiracy to committ murder? If I phoned up a few people and asked them to kill someone I would be sent to prison for life though this man can say it to millions of devout FOLLOWERS and nothing happens? This is clearly a violation of religion and state when a religous leader asks for deaths to be committed by the State?! How much better can you violate this law?
July 24th, 2008 at 9:50 am
God created the heavens and the earth,and we are made in the likeness of the creator himself!
Jesus wouldnt bomb no one.
Real christians dont choose war.
God is our refuge and and our strength ,a very present help in trouble. -Psalms 16:1-
If god didnt exist , man would have to invent him. -Voltaire-
We sure could learn alot from just reading.
Its simple you see, it always has been good against evil.
We the good(the gospel spoken word) the truth seekers and love believers, trying to break down the wall. That old type familar brick in the wall kind.
We Can Win,We Must win,and We Will Win,if we just focus!
Stand up for what is right in your hearts and minds.
Pssst…, do something!
July 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am
I think he’s an alien.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:15 am
It’s obvious by his failure rate and the fact that God cannot lie, that someone else other than God, is speaking to Pat Robertson. Hmm, I wonder who that might be.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:15 am
KJ says:
“In Genesis 1.1 in the King James Authorized version it reads
In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth, WRONG! Mistranslation the Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth. The Elohim in its original old ancient text means Gods plural not God as in one but Gods as in many.
I believe “Elohim” is expressing the three-personed God there, i.e., the Trinity–you can call Elohim “many gods” if you want to. however, I believe the verb used with it is singular there. “Let US make God in OUR image”–again the Trinity speaking as one God. But you are free to interpret it as you wish. This is the thrice Holy God referred to in Isaiah when the angels behold the Lord on the throne and proclaim HOLY! HOLY! HOLY! The scriptures teach a trinity of the ONE. But each is free to interpret as he wishes.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:16 am
KJ says:
“In Genesis 1.1 in the King James Authorized version it reads
In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth, WRONG! Mistranslation the Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth. The Elohim in its original old ancient text means Gods plural not God as in one but Gods as in many.”
I believe “Elohim” is expressing the three-personed God there, i.e., the Trinity–you can call Elohim “many gods” if you want to. “Let US make God in OUR image”–again the Trinity speaking as one God. But you are free to interpret it as you wish. This is the thrice Holy God referred to in Isaiah when the angels behold the Lord on the throne and proclaim HOLY! HOLY! HOLY! The scriptures teach a trinity of the ONE. But each is free to interpret as he wishes.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:42 am
How about everyone shuts up! All you sheep are obviously hungry, and Alex Jones is feeding you fast food to satisfy whatever senses you have left. The level of ignorance on these posts is mountainous and all you sinners who are trying to push the Jesus things are the high priests of this massive heap of dung! What I would like to see is all you “truthers” grow some real balls! Your posts, protests, you tube videos are not getting any real change happening. “Well we’re informing people! That’s change!” No, you’re inseminating people with more lies, so your lies on top of the government lies are cancerous. ALL YOU PEOPLE SHUT THE f--- UP!!!!! ALEX JONES WORKS FOR ABC, HE DOESN’T DARE EXPOSE THE REAL KEY PLAYERS IN THE NWO. DON’T LET THIS IMPOSTER MISLEAD YOU!
July 24th, 2008 at 10:51 am
KJ;
You mentioned Jordon Maxwell as a scholar. He beleives in little green man and attends area 51 parades. Do you beleive the same alliens as he? Atheist don’t beleive in nothing they will beleive anything. How sad:
You have really been turned over to a lie. Only a fool says there is no God.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:58 am
So 11:11 222 1234, after all that ranting, what’s the answer? Since we and Alex know nothing in your opinion, I suppose we should depend upon you for the answers, right? I mean, you’re obviously the only one on this site with the “supreme” intelligence to lead us sheep. Tell us Oh holy one, what else should we do?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Wakeupsays: There are many mis- translation in the bible. That is the reason why there are contradictions in the bible you have to go back to Farrah Fenton version to get a more accurate translation.
Go “back” to the Farrah Fenton version? Sorry, but you can say go “to” the Ferrah Fenton version. This version is based on the manuscript translations of Wescott and Horton, two notorious new agers who did their mischief in the 1800s. If you will do research in these men you will find they believed in communicating with the dead, did not believe in miracles, and pretty much translated scriptures with these prejudices in mind.
The Authorized King James Version is a tried and true translation. Hebrew scholars will admit that it is a very good translation of the Hebrew and would use it as an English version–even though they would tweak it in a few places, and many of the books of the New Testament (Revelation in particular) can be totally reproduced from quotes in letters from the early Christian leaders.–so why do we need Westcott and Hort to tell us “what the scriptures really are supposed to say.” The KJV has been around since the 1600s and has served the English-speaking peoples very well. God has promised to preserve his word for his people from generation to generation so there will always be a way for him who seeks it to find it. I believe that preservation is in the KJV for the English speakers. You can chase after the likes of Wescott and Hort if you wish, I will stick with the tried and true until shown convincing reasons to change. These newer versions are all translated to invoke confusion and help to usher in the New World Order.
Satan is very slick. He knows that if he just demanded your Bible up front, you would throw a fit and fight to death. So instead, he does such things as this: “you can’t read those old hard words in the King James Bible. Let me give you this book which is so much easier to read.” Or “You can’t trust those mistranslations, you need this version instead.”
With one fell swoop he will get you to turn over the Bible which has saved the souls of English men and women for over 400 years. You will, in effect, exchange your birthright for a mess of pottage–one which the lazy will claim is at least much easier to read.
Psalms:
2:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The Lord has kept his words for his servants, from generation to generation–and long before Westcott and Hort came on the scene.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I see alot of discussion of God here. What does Pat Robertson have to do with God?
July 24th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Please make viral.
To: U.S. Congress
We the people for The United States of America do hereby petition the Congress for The United States of America to vote into law the following legislation.
Transparency of Loyalty in Government Amendment: A proposal to keep citizens safe from cultivated treason against The United States of America.
“If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, foreign power, or secret society, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.”
The intent of the Amendment is to ensure that no citizen hold any allegiance that would stand in contradiction to the free and open nature of the United States of America.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
http://www.petitiononline.com/.....ition.html
July 24th, 2008 at 11:09 am
f---ing zelots will be the death of us all. What is the problem with those looney idiots!?
—- one time i read a book that said……. Seriously how f---ing stupid. We have come to a point where common sence and the survival of a species is on the table and the first thing they do it throw all judgement out the window!!!!! Kill the zelots!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 11:10 am
11:11 222 1234, get thee behind me Satan. In the name of Jesus I rebuke thee.
Are you foaming at the mouth?
P.S. Are you saying Alex is a Musketeer?
A little bit of proof would be nice instead of your blathering.
You want to tell us who the “real key players are” since Alex “works for ABC”–he is, afterall, giving you a forum right here to school us all. You have our attention.
IS It:
Mossad–the Jews (Yeah we know about the “dancing Israelis) – Alex has told us
The Jewish Banksters – Yeah we know about The Money Masters- Bill was on the show yesterday
The Trilateral Commission?
The IMF?
The Bilderbergers?
The Masons?
The Rothchilds?
The Rockefellers?
I am sure we have been schooled in others. But go ahead and tell us what Alex is keeping from us because we are sheeple. I really want to know. Others probably do too.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:24 am
BigMike, people never fail to amaze me. People go from saying there was no historical Jesus and no proof of his existence, to saying the scriptures are inaccurate because the originals don’t exist, to saying well the scriptures exist but only because they were sworn affidavits in the Roman court–which, of course, would make them official sworn statements proving the existence of someone who some say never existed.
What do facts have to do with anything? What does Paul and his letters to the churches have to do with anything? What do the letters of the early church (and I mean Christian church before Rome decided to make it the official religion–I mean when the Christians were still running for their lives from those in power–when they quoted John the Revelator–”as our brother John” said, etc? What does it matter that they believed the truth of this to the point of giving their lives for it?
I am like Jesus who quoted Abraham: You have Moses and the prophets to instruct you. If you will not listen to them, it would do no good to send someone back from the dead to inform you. You’d just explain it away anyway.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Pat Robertson has nothing to do with my great God and Savior, Jesus the Messiah, but Pat has everything to do with his father Satan. GOP establishment religious hacks like Pat are nothing but wolves in sheep’s clothing. Every Christian should shun the Pat Robertsons, the James Dobsons and the Jerry Falwell Jrs and focus their efforts primarily with their local churches. Forget those toadies; they’re just marionettes and palace prophets for the vile and corrupt political viceroys of the District of Courtesans.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Strange, since Pat Robertson wrote pretty decent book called The New World Order back in 1991. In the book he strongly condemns a one world religion that would be a top priority of a one world government. A holy war in the middle east would certainly be a step in the direction of a one world government.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
I guess Pat lost his WWJD wrist band and consulted with crystal meth instead. Hey, it worked for the Hitler & 3rd Reich, why not the 4th? There are only 3 things to consider about the geopolitical future of the world.
1)There will be a WWIII. It’s not a question of if, but when.
2)There will be both a deliberate and natural thinning of the herd (world pop.). Will you survive?
3)We will have a one world govt. and religion. Will you serve the Beast?
July 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am
f--- pat he already looks dead.
look at his eyes.looks to me he is wearing his open casket make up!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
i could careless maybe he can go to my place in hell. he looks like he is wearing his burial makeup now. look closer.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
this guy is full of crap.
his show is just as stupid as what he believes.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
“Strange, since Pat Robertson wrote pretty decent book called The New World Order back in 1991. In the book he strongly condemns a one world religion that would be a top priority of a one world government. A holy war in the middle east would certainly be a step in the direction of a one world government.”
It was because of that book that the global elite threatened to take away his cable TV network as well as his 700 Club show, so being the fly-by-night fake Christian scumbag that he is, he more than readily licked their boots and joined the New World Order.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I suspect Pat’s connections with the far right wing political world has sorely affected his spiritual viewpoint and his public perception too. The way he expounds on current events as related to scripture has a lot of folk in his own evangelical circle scratching their heads. That coupled with his annual prophetic predictions that never come true, the man’s motivations are highly in question and his credibility has just about dropped to zero.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Isreal = Isis -ra el….. look it up…Jordan Maxwell explains it very well.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Pat is a Bush Whore
July 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Pat Robertson is a phony. False prophets and Zionists like him along with James Dobson, Billy & Franklin, John Hagee, Graham, etc. give Christianity a bad name!!!!! Jesus Christ is known as the “Prince of Peace” and he would never advocate attacking a sovergn country. What happened to “thou shalt not kill”(launching preemptive wars),” thou shalt not bear false witness”(war propaganda), or “thou shalt not steal” (oil resources)?! These “wolves in sheeps clothing” are truly
servants of Satan and are setting the stage for the ANTI-CHRIST and the NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
Not to mention, Pat Roberston was the same man who advocated for the assassination of Venezuela’s Hugo Chevez!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Religion is a crock of s---.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Religion isn’t a crock of s--- the Freemasons that subverted it are.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Pat Robertson is not a man of God he is a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing and no one should take him Seriously
July 24th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Grady(Iraq War Vet): You are absolutely right. These false prophets are there to castrate and pacify the minds of the “Christian” public, to make them defenseless spineless slimy slugs!
(I wont even call them jellyfish because at least a spineless jellyfish can defend itself. lol)
IT IS A FACT that Dr Dobson’s “Focus on the family” empire of zombies WAS FUNDED BY EDGAR PRINCE! Father of the crusading Eric Prince who is the CEO of BLACKWATER!!! His “PRINCE of WAR” servants of Satan will be the new Iron Fist of the Anti-Christ!!
July 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
GO ROBERTSON! SHOW THEM WHERE IT’S AT! IRAN NEEDS TO GO! LET’S PUT ALL THE USELESS EATER INFOIDIOTS IN IRAN BEFORE WE PAY THAT TRASH TERRITORY A VISIT.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Jasmine, are you for real? If this is sarcasm, it’s kind of weak. If not, it’s completely bonkers insane.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
#5 Funny_Bob is right! Christians and Islamists, kindly remove yourself from the gene pool. Religion, the number one cause of death. Let’s get rid of religion and doctors. We will all live much longer with a better quality of life.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Another deranged, religious charleton that should be horsewhipped within an inch of his deceitful, cunning, money grabbing life!
The rest of you religious nutters might as well go and book yourselves into an asylum for the religiously deluded (after you have been horsewhipped within an inch of your lives).
I am fed up with the religious “brainwashed bulls---” that continually gets spewed out on these forums.
The biggest money grabbing, brainwashing, controlling invention ever to exist!!!
Stick your deluded brainwashed beliefs up your pathetic manipulated arses, “and f--- right off once and for all”
Vermin Filth Begone….Go On Git’
July 24th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Jasmine is really a guy whose using his girlfriend’s or daughter’s name. He’s a butt-munch that is getting paid to stir the pot or he’s patiently waiting for his favorite Fox program to come on. It’s ok, weenie boy. We enjoy your neo-con comments. Honestly folks, you don’t actually believe that there is someone on this planet as ignorant as he’s pretending to be?
July 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Hey all you religious types, when you’re being repressed or harrassed by your government (whether it be local, state or federal), go seek help from your church and find out how useless they REALLY are. TOTALLY POWERLESS! These churches would NEVER risk losing their tax-exempt status sticking up for YOUR rights!! Pat Robertson is bought and paid for like every other asshole on TV.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Pat Robrtson should stop picking on Hugo Chavez. Hugo’s stations, Citgo and Petro are the only gas stations in the U.S. that sell gas consistantly $.05/gal cheaper. I’ll give my money to Hugo long before I give it to BP/Amoco, Royal Dutch Shell or Exxon/Mobil (f--- those clowns) Hugo once called GWB “The Devil”. That’s when I made a committment to buy gas only from him. All neo-con radio stations were calling for a boycott of gas from 7-11 and Citgo. Do you see how much mind control the media possesses?? If the MSM says to do one thing, I’ll do the opposite. f--- Rupert Murdoch, may he suffer life-long constipation with no relief. Pat Robertson has the majority fooled.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
all right you ignorant lost nwo programmed souls out there… you should learn that:
A: atheistic nations have killed & enslaved more people than anybody else throughout history… look it up sheeple
B: just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist… it just means your eyes are blind to see it or have been blinded to see it… either by your own ignorance, all the nwo propaganda out there brainwashing you or God himself who said that those who willingly ignorantly (basically a fool) refuse to retain him in their knowledge, submit to his ways & his kingdom… that he would send you people a great delusion that they might believe a lie… are you one of those people believing in a great delusion..??? speaking of a big lie…
C: the bible is clear that their are many wolves in sheeps clothing & false prophets running around especially in the end times
D: evolution is not only a lie but… a tax payer supported religious lie… yes a religion & it’s believed by faith & fought for with religious zeal… cause no one was around billions of years ago to witness it happen… no less can verify or prove that it ever happened by the scientific method… (that’s why it’s still the “THEORY OF EVOLUTION”) they have to believe it happened… by what they make fun of us christians for having… FAITH!!! the reason most people cling relentlessly to this great delusional big lie is because the alternative would put a cramp in their humanistic do what they want to do lifestyles… cause if there is a God… he has his laws & rules we all must abide by. even though his laws & rules are really just here to protect us… it takes away from them being able to do whatever they want to do even behind closed doors away from societies & the polices watchful eye.
E: evolution is also the biggest lie & brainwashing tool & enabler of the nwo… as hitler & his globalist cronies used it as an excuse justifying genocide of lower forms of human life… hence the jews & other ethnic groups… with their take over the world skeme that failed miserably… also… the nwo hitler / antichrist & his globalist cronies with their global police state coming to a city near you soon… will use it as a way of controlling the whole world by exterminating the “other” 90% of lower life form humans that aren’t high enough on their A list to qualify for their enlightened superior dominate (probably arian & connected to space alien higher intelligence evolution bull crap) race (which is really just a bunch of homosexual mega rich dirty old men who are controlled by satan the antichrist & are on a mission to be like God (just like satan promised eve in the garden of eden) & live forever through genetic dna science & more human / spiritual evolution bull crap… & there’ll be no USA & Britain to come bail us out… the only one who will be able to save us from that complete global take over… will be for God himself to return & de-power him & set this planet right… which will be when Jesus Christ returns to do it
F: all you space alien niburu planet cult believing people out there… one question for you… who created those space aliens…??? they didn’t create themselves… so it always goes back to a God creating everything no matter which way you look at it… (i believe) it’s really just another way of explaining away the rapture of the saints… plus giving the globalist a way of thinking that they’re a far better more advanced alien race descendent tie in… then the average slave class people…. also… you also might as well just be a scientoligist… cause that cult believes we’re all a bunch of space alien God’s called thetans that came from an intergalactic warlord xeno, zenoc, zhor or some other name that is just as comic book pathetic… billions of years ago when he through us all in a volcano on this planet & we escaped out of it… & over billions of years of evolution & re-incarnation that we’ve forgotten our God like states… so if you pay them large sums of money… you can get over your past life emotional hangups called engrams & they’ll help you get back to your previous God like state like L Ron Hubbard & tom cruise… look at wikileaks for more info that’s leaked about that stupid cult
G: that without God there is no right or wrong… cause God is justice… so… don’t get all upset, mad, angry or your poor little feelings hurt when someone wrongs you in anyway shape form or fashion (like raping, killing or maiming one of your precious little kids or family members for example) cause it’s all just survival of the fittest… i guess your family member just wasn’t fit enough to stop it from happening… too bad for them… that other person obviously needed that wallet / money to continue their survival & that sexual conquest or murder of that person to make them feel adequate & dominate & that they’re the fittest of their evolving transitional species… it’s just another day in evolution right..???
H: dead is forever… there’s no changing your minds once you take that last breath… it’s over for you… so you’d better make that eternal decision now before it’s too late… plus… what do you have to loose… if you chose to live for Christ & it ends up being a farse (which it isn’t)… it wouldn’t matter… you’d really just be turning back to dust & that would truelly be the end… you’d have lived a good descent life by the 10 commandments & by being an unselfish loving person… if you didn’t choose to live for Christ… you’d have chosen to live your life for yourself… the way you wanted to & now your ETERNALLY WRONG in HELL FOREVER!!! with no getting out of it. SO… as God said… choose this day whom you serve!!!
http://www.myspace.com/freehovind <————- WATCH THE VIDEOS & LEARN SOME REAL TRUTH!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Ben #123, I can’t say for sure whether or not there is a “God”, but I have seen it proven that Christianity and many other religions (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism) are just rehashes of pagan sun worship with a new coat of paint slapped on every 1000 years or so. I suggest you watch http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ and keep an open mind while doing so.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
God has nothing to do with what Pat Robertson is advocating,Israel has well over a 100 nuclear devices some say as high as 400,Iran has none,contrary to what’s being said you just don’t enrich uranium and make munitions,so what’s be put out is very misleading to say the least.
It’s funny most Bibles I’ve read say Blessed is the peace maker,I wonder what Pat Roberston reads,if Pat Robertson ever saw the photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, how could be ever support such a thing as what will transpire,attacking Iran who has shown no military hostilities is a crime unto itself, but unleashing nuclear holocaust is nothing less than a Satanic crime against humanity and anyone that supports it should be tried with Bush,Cheney and Israeli officals as co-conspirators.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Re: Pheonix (post #100)
Subject: My rebuttal
Your Quote: “BigMike, people never fail to amaze me. People go from saying there was no historical Jesus and no proof of his existence, to saying the scriptures are inaccurate because the originals don’t exist, to saying well the scriptures exist but only because they were sworn affidavits in the Roman court–which, of course, would make them official sworn statements proving the existence of someone who some say never existed.”
My Response: I never made those logical leaps. I never claimed that Jesus didn’t exist. And I never said the Scriptures were inaccurate. I simply said that we cannot know which of the world’s many “one-true-way” religions were right. That’s an important distinction, because if the “One True Way” religions are correct, it means everyone else is going to hell. But, due to the scientific method, which is not political-ideological, merely the foundation upon which all knowledge is based, we can discern that there is a VERY strong possibility of a God/higher power existing. This, then, is all we can say with any surety: It is possible that God exists, and it is possible that God does not exist. Anything other than that is a human’s opinion. (I’m an agnostic, by the way)
You Say: What do facts have to do with anything? What does Paul and his letters to the churches have to do with anything? What do the letters of the early church (and I mean Christian church before Rome decided to make it the official religion–I mean when the Christians were still running for their lives from those in power–when they quoted John the Revelator–”as our brother John” said, etc? What does it matter that they believed the truth of this to the point of giving their lives for it?
My Response: EXACTLY! What does the truth matter when it comes to religions? There is little enough of it in religion. It’s kind of sad, actually. That people should be so willing to die based upon what someone says God told them to do. That’s called heresey, and it is not allowed in any court proceedings for its inability to be backed up by the facts (that pesky word again). If you’re religious, and you are faced with a situation where giving up your life for your belief is now a viable option, you should wait for God herself to convey that desire to you before you accept the word of a totally human preacher claiming that God had spoken with them. God, who is supposed to be all powerful, can tell me what it wants me to do, and do so directly, without the need for non-specific parables and broad generalizations.
You say: I am like Jesus who quoted Abraham: You have Moses and the prophets to instruct you. If you will not listen to them, it would do no good to send someone back from the dead to inform you. You’d just explain it away anyway.
My Response: You are more like Jesus than that. Both completely human, both going to be dead, both need(ed) food, water, air, neither perfect, etc. Jesus is most fascinating not for the religion built around him, but the work and forces he commanded in fighting the tyranny of the Roman Empire. The Romans were the most violent civilization the West had known (Until the good ol’ USofA), and here came a man speaking to the slaves, the multitudes, telling them not to sell their souls to the greed, hate, and envy that intense persecution has to breed in the repressed. In the end, their civilization was brought down and replaced (kind of) by the slave religion. Every civilization in history built on slavery has been overthrown by those slaves. Jesus was the first instigator to bring a different message though.
Instead of calling for more of the blood, death, and killing that was all around EVERY person living in the Roman Empire, he came with a message of love. Take care of one another. Bear what must be borne. Help those around you, as you can expect to be helped. He taught one-ness, kindness, and charity amongst the slaves, the exact opposites of what is offerred to them by the rational, bureaucratic systems of government. Ghandi taught much the same thing in India, does that make him God reincarnated? No, just a man who realizes that humanity is not the string of people who manage to make the history books, but the tumultuous multitudes, revelling in their imperfections, quicks, and character, not giving a d*** if someone 100 years from now even knows their name.
But even though he had revolutionary ideas that brought down the greatest civilization the World has ever known (We’ve got another 600 years before we begin to compare to them), he was still nailed to a cross and died. It doesn’t matter that the Christians who followed him went to death professing their beliefs, they’d have been put to death anyway for simply being Jewish (The Romans crushed them completely in 75 AD and scattered them to the four winds).
But you did hit on a point that I’d like to mention as a very good one. You said that the Roman’s co-opted the religious movement and morphed their secular government into a spiritual one. Notice how easily the two can interact and coexist? Wanna know why? Because they’re so alike. And you best believe that if our politicians can lie, steal, and cheat us to perserve and extend their own power, then the religious leaders can and do too.
I do believe in a god. Just not stupid religions.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Another response:
To: ben dover
Your Quote: without God there is no right or wrong.
My Reponse: True. But it is also true that there could be no right or wrong without Satan. What is good if there is no evil to compare it too? There is no war between God and Satan, they are opposite sides of the same coin, equal in every way. Neither can get rid of the other, because then the winner/survivor would cease to exist. If God is life, and Satan is death, yet God has destroyed Satan, life would become a cancer. No one could eat because nothing would die for us to feed ourselves. Populations would explode, consuming all resources and forcing everyone to live in squalor… Yeah, that’d be great.
Ying/Yang, over a billion people believe this already, don’t ignore that much collective wisdom.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
MODERATE?..mindless tool. Scary.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
As a witness to our collapsing economy and the forces of EVIL in this world, the Word of
God shows that a “love of money” has been the cause for all sorts of evil. It doesn’t
surprise many to see greed being the underlying motive for those that want to turn our
world into a one world government and use it for tyranny:
Part of 1 Timothy 6:10-”For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil”.
Better yet, the prophecies in the Bible are being fufilled even as we speak. Creation
sings of the glories of God. God is more concerned about man destroying this earth with
sin more than anything else. Man has ruined a perfect creation. God gave us free will to
let us choose if we would follow God or follow ourselves. God never forces himself on
anyone.
We are a scarred creation, we deserve eternal condemnation for breaking God’s law. God
says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. In essence, His glory is
perfection, and failing just one of his commandments means we fall short. He is a just
and Holy God, and because of his Holy nature, he must punish us for our shortcomings. The
punishment for mankind sinning is eternal separation from God when we die physically.
God loves us so much that he made a way for you and me to be reconciled to Him. John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in
him shall not perish but have everlasting life”. God sent Jesus as a sacrifice on our
behalf to pay the penalty of our sins fully-past, present, future. God says that “Jesus
is the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but through Him”. Jesus
took your penalty so you dont have to face eternal condemnation.
All you need to do is repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. It is a gift from God to you, all need to do is recieve it!
God proves himself time and time again. Test God out! For all that truly and humbly seek
Him, He will reveal himself to you! If you are skeptical of God or the Bible, do some
investigation and read the Bible! See for yourself if the claims in there are true.
I despise the hypocrisy of today’s Christians, who claim they know God, but by their
actions deny him. Anyone can claim they are a Christian but that doesn’t necessarily mean
they are one. God teaches us in his word that we will discern TRUE followers of God by
their fruits. The inquisitions for example were not done to glorify God even though they
claim it did. God strickly forbids murder, and these “Christians” were engaging in it.
The condescending/judgemental attitudes of Christians today is sad. We are told by God to
love EVERYONE regardless if they are our enemies or friends.
Satan and his evil spirits are alive and well, deceiving many today in this world. Many
are blinded to the evils as our culture slowly conditions us to accept immorality.
The Word of God shows us that terrible times are coming, filled with persecution,
tyranny, and evil.
This Nation America is a slave to our establishment. But we are all a slave to sin. I
earnestly ask that you consider what I’ve said. God bless America.
July 24th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Pat Robertson your christian leaders
July 24th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
If you are at least 30 years old , you might remember when Pat Robertson wrote a book about the NWO. He named the CFR, Trilates , Iluminatti, and all the other shadow rats. Then his CBN ministry recieved two bombs through the mail . Then old Pat suddenly stopped talking about the NWO. He also would cut off his then co-minister Ben Kinchlow (pretty sure this is spelled wrong) every time he tried to
bring it up. Ben seemed like he was disgusted wtih Pat and left the SHOW. Pat is a Telemoneyevangelist. He has misled and purposely avoided issues to save his own sorry ass. I guess once you sell out ,it gets easier and easier .
July 24th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Roon I guess you better quit going to Doctors . Some of them have been caught stealing , abusing patients, doing unnecessary surgeries . Doctors are suppose to be upright too. With your simplistic
judgement of all Christians you make yourself seem dishonest. All people in all walks of life have good
and bad, even the leaders . One more thing . I have been studying many religions , for many years. There is
no one was as truthful and insightful as Jesus Christ. Maybe you don’t know but Jesus could have spared
himself from crucifixion if he would have recanted his claim of being the literal son of God. He did this for
you…. Read his words for yourself .
July 24th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Looks like all of us have flourinated brain disease.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:01 am
#111, you forgot about the Crouches and TBN. They’re probably one of the worst.
Anybody got any dirt on Benny Hinn?
And what gets me is this huckster Peter Popoff who goes on infomercials and sells his “Miracle Spring Water”. I’d wager $100 that his “Miracle Spring Water” is either tap water or his filtered urine.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:29 am
Alex Jones did this to me:)Christians must fight for freedom on this earth as well freedom in their heart and mind.Liberty is a gift from God.Killing Iranians for no reason is just stupid and will further aid in our loss of liberty in the USA.I do not want to be a inflation slave.Christ came to give life more abundant and to set the captive free.True Christians most fight bondage of all forms.Once again Alex is right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VslzcciRmZg
July 25th, 2008 at 3:54 am
#124 You need MORE research than one little dumb movie full of junk…
Don’t let one useless movie make your mind. Common.
I watched it and it is full of mistakes and misrepresentations. If you trust your life with sloppy ’scholarship’ .. go on. But don’t misguide others.
As for 700 Club, I have their FREE sticker contra homo-perverts on my car. And recommend you one, before homo-perverts will screw your kids… while you were thinking that Christianity is similar to 911. ridiculous
July 25th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Jesus and Pat are old 69 buddies.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:21 am
Wow, 138 responses and still climbing.
Just about everybody posting here seems angry.
“I don’t believe and you’re trying to FORCE me to believe.”
or
“I believe and since you don’t, God will strike you down.”
It’s just words and opinions, people.
Just like all the feces that drops from Pat’s mouth-hole.
Pat can’t give you Faith.
Neither can I.
You can’t take away my Faith.
Neither can Pat.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:25 am
There are too many people that think this way. They call themselves Christians but act in evevryway against what is taught?
Can any of you Christians that think along same path as Pats thoughts understand that this outright call for mass murder to bring Christ is just that? Murder! No man can judge another’s soul or where it is to go. But really my thoughts are that “if God really is to come and get his followers there will be MANY like Pat that will be sent somewhere warm and toasty. Wondering with their arrogance why they are not Gods chosen. But they won’t figure out how wrong it was of them to call out for murder to “make a path for God.” If they were true Christians they would want God to be proud of them for having kind hearts an hearts of peace.
And these Christians complain about the Islamic fundamentalists? Are they nuts? They are the same just different religions. Both hypocritical. Meanwhile Palestinian babies die, Jewish children die, American babies ( they may be soldiers but some mother still thinks of that grown man as her baby still) an these people say kill em all so Christ can come!
You know? I am ashamed to be a human. We as a collective whole are a sad, disgusting, selfish, useless species. And as “un”useless as some of us try to be? There are more useless making it impossible for the few that want to be useful.
July 25th, 2008 at 9:19 am
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July 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Hagee and Robertson are two of the biggest hucksters out there. I wouldn’t believe either one of them if they told me water was wet. They are no more christian than my dog.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
ALEX- Start calling the concert a PRO PEACE concert not ant-war…big difference in the vibrational frequency that creates in the human body
July 25th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
GWAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
It took them years and years , in secretive manners to set their NWO… But it took Alex just few years , not even 9 years to wake millions and millions around the world who were in deep sleep. Freedom is the answer my friends.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
http://www.myspace.com/freehovind <————- WATCH THE VIDEOS & LEARN SOME REAL TRUTH!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
#127 BIG MIKE:
i’d have to disagree with your statement “No one could eat because nothing would die for us to feed ourselves. Populations would explode” isn’t that a contradictory statement…??? if nothing can eat how would populations explode…???
& as far as the evil back side of the coin goes… thats exaclty what God is going to do… he’s going to get rid of evil & satan (which is the real cancer… sir) & then we’ll have what he said… life abundantly with no death on the back side haunting us.
& you really need to learn the definition of what life really is… plants are all just self replicating organic matter… by the way… fruit bats & pandas have teeth though they eat fruits & leaves… whales as enormous as they are eat plankton… according to some of the nwo brainwashed scientist some of the hugest dinosaurs ate plants & leaves… could all creatures be vegetarians & survive… possibly.??? i think so!!!
http://www.myspace.com/freehovind <————- WATCH THE VIDEOS & LEARN SOME REAL TRUTH!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
141 — Amen. They are Satanists, eating away from the inside, wolves in sheep’s clothing.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
http://www.thereignofchrist.org and http://www.veritas144k.com
The fulfillment of Christianity is at hand!!
“Until we all meet into the unity of faith and of the knowledge of the Son of
God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the age of the
fulness of Christ, doing the truth in charity, we may in all
things grow up in Him Who is the head, even Christ.”
This is accomplished in those who prepare themselves to receive
Christ in His Second Coming when “He shall appear without
sin to them that expect Him unto salvation.” This can only
accomplished in the valid reception of the Holy Eucharist.
If we carry this point a step further, we will see that the revolt
in Heaven by Lucifer has even deeper significance. Not only
did God ask the angels to assist man to come into the image
and likeness of God, but He revealed that in the final New
Creation, God would be ‘All and in all.’
That is, God would be in the angels and in man in the completion of the designs
of His heart from all eternity:
“Lie not one to another,
stripping yourselves of the old man with his deeds, and
putting on the new, him who is renewed unto knowledge,
according to the image of Him that created him, where there
is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision,
Barbarian nor Scythian, bond nor free. But Christ is All and
in all.”
There is neither, bond nor free, angel nor man, but
there is totally a new creature, for man and for angel are one,
that is the new creature, Eucharistic man.
The emergence of the new creature is the realization that there
is no difference of man and angel. The Resurrection of the
Christ, that is, the emergence of the victory of the Divine
Nature in the humanity of man, brings about the completion
of the fulfillment of the design of God from the beginning.
Just as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one, so too the new
creature is the image and likeness of the unity of the Trinity,
for the Holy Eucharist is Jesus, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
He said: “I and the Father are One.
July 25th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Religion is nothing but a circus side show.
Robertson, Hagee, Dobson,Graham et all are nothing but sideshow barkers.
Since the beginning of human civilisation, certain people began to envision omnipotent deities as their proof for being king, queen, lord, Pharao, president, etc, etc.
Take W for instance as his insistance that god put him in the White House. Noone can be anymore delusional.
You see , people use religion to acquire wealth and power and to maintain that wealth and power. Many are megalamaniacs, others are just plain snake oil salesmen. That is what religion is all about.
And then there are those who fall for the sale. They believe themselves to be worshippers of a certain diety or whatever.
Since then, religion has done nothing for humanity but enslave his mind, make him poor and even turn him into a killer, thief and traitor.
In 2000 years of christianity, nothing has changed whatsoever. There are still those who insist that those of us who choose to not follow blindly along with some phoney texts will all be sent to hell when Armegeddon and the rapture comes.
Ther will be no Armegeddon and no rapture. This is another snake oil being sold to the foolish, illiterate, and gullible.
Robertson in no way can claim to be the man of god he claims to be.
Besides god is an absentee landlord and is having one helluva laugh at our expense. That is if god even exists
Religion is the greatest scam ever foisted on humanity and will stay that way until humanity can free its mind and begin to think with reason and logic and not with religious emotionalism.
July 26th, 2008 at 8:06 am
#146 Don’tDropTheConstitutionalSoap
You say: i’d have to disagree with your statement “No one could eat because nothing would die for us to feed ourselves. Populations would explode” isn’t that a contradictory statement…??? if nothing can eat how would populations explode…???
Response: Just because people are hungry doesn’t mean they’re gonna stop f***ing. Actually, when you look at the problem, those who have the least are more likely to engage in sexual activity than those who have the most. Look at Africa for proof of that. Consider who has more children: the American elites, or the poor Mexican immigrants? And if none of those children ever died, wouldn’t that make for a pretty sh*tty existence? Death makes us aprreciate the life we have.
You say: & as far as the evil back side of the coin goes… thats exaclty what God is going to do… he’s going to get rid of evil & satan (which is the real cancer… sir) & then we’ll have what he said… life abundantly with no death on the back side haunting us.
Response: Everything that has a beginning has an end. Why did your God create death just to get rid of it later? And isn’t Death the tool used to force you lemmings back into line? The Religious leaders say “Live like we tell you, or you’re going to get it when you die!”, but I say that everything has a purpose, a reason, for existence, and death is one of those things. Besides, you didn’t really examine the concept based on my argument: That God doesn’t have the power to destroy death, or anything else for that matter. God is the *creator* and *life adundant*. In the Bible’s own scheme of things, he doesn’t destroy anything. He didn’t completely wipe out the world with the Flood, he didn’t touch Job himself (let Satan handle the destruction aspect of the story, more proof I believe), he always ordered the Jews to kill off the civilizations they found when moving into the Holy Land, but he never dirtied his own hands with the deed. Maybe because he can’t. Maybe because he doesn’t have the power to destroy things, including death. Maybe you believe in a bunch of superstitious mumbo jumbo.
And finally.
You Say: & you really need to learn the definition of what life really is…
My response: Life can be defined in a multitude of different ways. I’ll choose two definitions for my rebuttal.
1) It [Life] is the period of time between the birth and death of something. –Which requires Death, how can there be life with no death?–
2) “Life is a condition that distinguishes organisms from non-living objects, such as non-life, and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism and reproduction. Some living things can communicate and many can adapt to their environment through changes originating internally.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life) –According to scientiffically accepted definitions of life, plants are most certainly included. Did you not take 7th grade “Life Science” in school? Did you reflect on the differences between rocks and the types of animals and plants you mentioned when you were telling me that those animals and plants were not alive? Sounds like I’ve got a better handle on what life is than you do, in this instance.–
So, that being said, let’s try to imagine a world with no death. Where, even though you’re a vegetarian, you can’t eat. Why? Because if you eat, your body uses various chemical and mechanical means to break down the plant and animal matter you’ve consumed into the various nutrients and minerals your body needs to survive. But if there is no death, those plants cells don’t ever die and break down. Try as you body might, with no death, all of that food will live inside of your stomach, providing no nourishment whatsoever. If you want to keep this conversation in Biblical terms, you’d be like the big fish which ate Jonah. Didn’t do that fish much good eating him, because he didn’t die.
Death and life are still two sides of the same coin, they cancel each other out, just like in a good math equation, they balance one another. Should God destroy death, what reason would you have to worship him? He only gets to exact his revenge on your “sins” when you die. No my friend, death isn’t going anywhere…
July 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Over the past 2000 plus years God has united monotheistic beliefs and eliminated most polytheistic and agnostic or atheistic beliefs except in China, Russia, and India.
The Romans believed in similar gods as the Greeks in mythology.
Egyptians had false gods of Baal and Rah or Ri the sun god.
India has Vishnu, Shiva, and other gods.
Islam is a false religion that impedes the growth of Christianity and the survivability of Israel as a nation.
July 26th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
talk talk talk talk talk talk….lets see it…you put so much fear into people everyday on here…theres gonna be a war….theres not…oh be careful there is…stock pile food…get ur guns…..give me a f---in break you fear mongering pricks……
for months people have been talkin s---….oh its time to stop talking and do something…..looks like no ones doin a f---in thing…but bein a tuff guy with a gun in ur hand…or maybe your just a pussy with a gun in his hand……i see no rallys that make a difference….the world will carry on for years and years to come…..and for those of you who dont think it will……get a f---in brain…..infowarriors…fear on!!!!!!!!!!!holy s---…what a joke!
July 26th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
THEN WHY DOESNT THIS PIECE OF s--- GO AND DO IT HIMSELF ?
OR SEND HIS SONS AND DAUGHTERS ?
FKEN 2 FACED PIECES OF s---.
COMMENTS LIKE THIS WILL GET YOU A TICKET STRAIT TO HELL ROBERTSON
ALL THOSES DEATHS WILL BE ON YOUR SOUL.
July 26th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
This “heathen pharisee” should be arrested for inciting violence…in any state where he is present
July 27th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
IT’S FUNNY HOW THESE PIECES OF s---
USE THE WORD .. PEACE
TO JUSTIFY WAR.
July 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Hello.
Am I being blocked for some reason? Is infowars.com against free speech?
-Jacob
July 27th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
I wonder if God told old Pat this or he just figured it out all on his own. Didn’t he say those evil
folks in New Orleans deserved their fate? Even the little kiddies?
July 28th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Hello.
Perhaps I have had 10 or so comments blocked in this article comment section or whatever it is and people should read carefully.
If there is a conspiracy IN SUPPORT of Him and the so called OT and not one AGAINST Him and it, then what has happened in the last 20 years and beyond?
Have you watched TV or been in a history or science classroom? Maybe you will study freemasonry and ask yourself if it is also referred to as the Craft and highly related to upside down pentagrams and goat images and a degree system. No need to get into details about B.G. perhaps. So called Luke 4:6.
Maybe there are Yahudim who are not so called Zionists and so called Zionists who are not Yahudim and many lies have been spread. Is there a hexagram flag that truly represents Yisra’el?
Perhaps there have been Gog and Magog related lies spread and Robertson and Hagee and many others should try to figure out who is referred to in a section called Daniel 11:21 and what is referred to in a section called Daniel 11:29. Maybe many people have never seen the words grigori and nephilim and I wonder if stuff have been covered up in a way for a reason. Maybe we should not be surprised if Iran is attacked and the devil and others show up in flying saucers claiming to be benevolent primate evolving alien elohim saviors. Been seeing more and more UFO and alien and cavemen and dying planet stuff and stuff subtly and not so subtly against scripture in the media? So called Daniel 2:43, Daniel 11:38-39, Obadiah 4, Isaiah 24:21, and Jeremiah 10:10-15.
Perhaps many people refer to Dad using names of false elohim without realizing it and people should spend time learning about Names and Titles. Is there any good reason to call Yahushua (spelling?) by a name of Jesus? Maybe ha’soos is a Hebrew to English transliteration meaning the horse or something like that and G Zus is even sketchier whether you keep so called Greek mythology in mind or not… no good reason to get into Hispanic pronunciations maybe.
Also, joseph daniel riley… look up the word dragon in a dictionary over 200 years old if you can find one with the word in it that is not burned and study a Hebrew #8577 in a concordance maybe. Perhaps dinosaurs were not created by the devil and you can find water ones on earth right now. Maybe I can send you and others an email with 100+ images of dinosaurs portrayed in art from the past and even images of actual living dinosaurs. Maybe I can also send images that can help people learn about Eden and grigori and nephilim and the flood and more and can even send part of a screenshot from 05′ or early 06′ with part of a freemason message board topic concerning the future of freemasonry that mentions something referred to as introduction of stewardship of the planet and the words no dependence on the religious writing of a small nation. Back to an earlier statement perhaps…
If there is a conspiracy IN SUPPORT of Him and the so called OT and not one AGAINST Him and it, then what has happened in the last 20 years and beyond?
-Jacob (atruthsearcher@aol.com)
July 28th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Big_Mike…
Perhaps you are mistaken about one or more thing and I will address some quotes.
“The Gospels were written by the Disciples for the Roman criminal court system. We’ve based our legal system on theirs, and both required sworn testimony. That’s what the Gospels are, sworn testimony to the Roman courts.”
According to who? So called Matthew 5:33-37.
“EVERY disciple wrote one. Why did only four get included in the Bible?”
According to who? Also, are you suggesting that you believe He has or had disciples named Mark and Luke? Should anyone take words after those seriously?
-Jacob (atruthsearcher@aol.com)
July 29th, 2008 at 9:50 am
#160 Jacob
Huh? Are you trying to tell me that the Bible is the true Word of God, or are you trying to tell me that it is not? Your post doesn’t expound enough upon your beliefs, it just asks me a couple of vague questions.
Let me lay my position out for you in easy to understand terms:
1) I believe in a God due to basic scientific principles of matter (creation/destruction/existence) and spontaneous generation (No life from unliving things). Beyond that, I think it would presumptuous of me to say that any one religion is the correct religion. There is no such thing as a 100% probability (which is where faith comes in), leading me to disdain organized religion. You can get just as much of a religious feeling walking through the woods as you can singing a few songs with your Saturday night drinking buddies in church on Sunday morning.
2) I believe that there was too much internal church politics involved at both the Council at Rome in 382 AD, and at the Council of Trene in the late 1500s(a1). These were the two meetings where groups of men got together and decided what went into the Bible and what didn’t make the cut. They suppressed the Gospel of Thomas, who is most certainly mentioned in the Bible as being there to watch the events first hand. They obviously suppressed the Gospel of Judas, which was in the media not to long ago, having been discovered in old Gnostic texts. Anything men have tampered with that much can no longer be considered the Word of God.
Now, I was arguing these stances in my previous posts. Which of them did you have a problem with? No need to write another horribly worded post, just type 1 or 2, and any future communication can proceed in a more efficient manner.
a1 — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T....._Quirinius
July 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
while true isreal is the heart shakra of the mother earth gaia, and that the reckless negativity in the spirits of men and women from around the world are moving in on the heart shakra like hearth disease. It is necessary to depose psychotic threatening genocidal maniacs. while I cant agree with any worlds so called leadership or military actions due to severe injustices. How can and why should the world let the middle east become a bastion of regressive thought, lifestyle and repression? Freedom is what God gave the Unvierse itself. Why do some groups of humans feel they cannot control themselves enough to require otherwise? humanity as a whole needs to face the hard facts about themselves, theyre stubborn hearts towards eachother, and eventually grow out of a cycle of war and into a state of self reinforced reality.
July 30th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Straight up freakin lie. Iran NEVER, AT ANY TIME, said it would use nukes against Israel. You know what? f--- it idiots, so the official lie is true and they will use it against Israel… First of all, freak Israel, this is America, let Israel handle its s---. We have spent enough on its AAA army so whatever. Second, the “intelligence” was wrong before, though not terribly important on its own, supports the contrary. Third, if it was such a threat, the CIA would do a regime change, which would include but not limited to : Assassinations, bankruptcy, SEALS, and false flag. We could flip that country in no time regardless of how then do whatever we want. Make it part of America for all we wanted. Anyway the point is there are a multitude of ways to handle this (wait a freaking second, didn’t we put the Shiite in power in 1953? YES!) other than all out nuke war and world war 3. REALIZE AL-QUIDA WAS MADE BY CIA IN 1979 TO FIGHT THE SOVIETS THEN DOUBLE USED AGAINST US FOR ANOTHER FALSE WAR OMFG THANK YOU.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:32 am
A preemptive strike is what we’re scared Iran will do to Isreal. So if we pull a preemptive strike on Iran, how does that make us better than them?
These are NOT America’s problems. Our problems are a shoddy educational system, a bloated entitlement spending program that drags the country down, excessivly violent police, the collapse of the republic (HOW CAN CONGRESS HAVE A SINGLE DIGIT APPROVAL RATING IN A REPUBLIC?!?!), the devaluation of the dollar, the trade deficits, so on and so forth.
Even though I’m not a religious nutcase, Jesus did hit it right on the head when he told the Pharasees (sp?) to not worry about the mote of dust in another’s eye while ignoring the plank in your own. We need to stop spending trillions of dollars in useless, overseas wars that don’t concern us, and start spending that money here, at home, solving OUR problems.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Iran will not retreat in nuclear standoff: Khamenei
Wednesday, 30 July 2008
TEHRAN (AFP) — Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Wednesday that the country will not retreat in the face of demands by world powers for Tehran to halt sensitive nuclear work.
“Taking one step back against arrogant (powers) will lead to them to take one step forward,” Khamenei was quoted as saying by state television in a sermon.
His comments come ahead of a Saturday deadline for Iran to respond to a package of incentives aimed at persuading it to freeze uranium enrichment, a process that makes nuclear fuel but also the core of an atomic bomb.
“The idea that any retreat or backing down from righteous positions would change the policies of arrogant world powers is completely wrong and baseless,” said Khamenei, who has the final say on all key policy issues.
Iran has been slapped with three sets of UN Security Council sanctions over its refusal to halt enrichment. It insists it has the right to nuclear technology as a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and denies Western claims it is seeking to build atomic weapons.
“Today it is time for the Iranian nation to move ahead with awareness and add to its knowledge and capabilities,” Khamenei said.
“The horizon is bright for us and we know what we are doing and where we are going… the way to reach that point is not to stand but to go.”
Iran on July 19 held talks with representatives of major powers including EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana and for the first time an official from Tehran’s arch-foe the United States, William Burns.
Iran was given until Saturday to give its final answer.
But Iran has rejected any deadline, saying it was agreed in Geneva that it would during a two-week period examine the proposal put forward by permanent UN Security Council members Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States plus Germany.
July 30th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I have worked in the Christian televison industry (or ministry if you prefer) and I can tell you that most of the people employed here are honest and true believers. But the people who run these organizations take advantage of us all. The problems with people like Robertson, Dobson, Hagee and others is that they have sold out to big money, tax exempt status and the status quo of the Paharisees. Prefering the lavish lifestyles and praise of men over the stigma of Christ, Himself, they have become useless hirelings and vain shepherds.
The best way to combat them with the truth is to call their toll-free 1-800 numbers and complain to the “prayer counsellers” about things like 911, the wars, Bush acting like a dictator and the way these ministires turn a blind eye to it all. CALL THEM! Tell them we refuse to support this any longer. Flood thier lines and wear them out. Many of these workers will soon pass the complaints up the chain and leave their posts. It’s money and support that empowers these false prophets to keep going. Ask you pastor what he thinks about 911 and the CFR. If he doesn’t care about it or give you a satisfactory answer, find another church that does. Don’t start a fight, just move on.
Jesus took care of His own family and friends, but he also confronted civil corruption as well in the Temple. There is no excuse for Christians to still be supporting Bush and this satanic deception.
July 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Pat went to Yale. He is most likely Skull and Bones.
Which means he is most likely a FreeMason, part of the Lucerferian Gnostic secret order.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
In response to 168, I might add that Pat Robertson is also a happy member of the Bohemian Grove…hook ‘em horns!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:45 am
Mrs. Benny Hinn says non-believers need a “Holy Ghost Enema” up their rear ends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhw_5ye8Qo
August 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
The word have replaced with the word has in a place in an earlier comment maybe.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:19 am
I’ve recently joined and wanted to introduce myself
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Big_Mike…
What is meant by Huh?
I am not trying to tell you the 66 is either maybe. Perhaps I have never seen a True Name for Him on one dollar bills and I would prefer to call Him The Four Letter Name than one or more common thing used to refer to Him and I trust no one called Paul.
MAYBE I have a problem with 1 and 2 depending on definition. Perhaps you AND I do not trust any church building, but perhaps you and I should study sections called Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9:24-27 and Zechariah 12:10 and more and ask ourselves if they existed before a birth of Miryam and ask ourselves if we believe Yahushua (spelling?) died for sins or not. I am far from saying I agree with Paul or that I think the so called NT is a perfect collection of things maybe, but are you arguing that there was a Counsil of Trene in the 16th century that decided the 66 and do we truly know if there is a true Gospel written by anyone called Thomas or Judas?
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Big_Mike…
What is meant by Huh?
I am not trying to tell you the 66 is either maybe. Perhaps I have never seen a True Name for Him on one dollar bills and I would prefer to call Him The Four Letter Name than one or more common thing used to refer to Him and I trust no one called Paul.
MAYBE I have a problem with 1 and 2 depending on definition. Perhaps you AND I do not trust any church building, but perhaps you and I should study sections called Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9:24-27 and Zechariah 12:10 and more and ask ourselves if they existed before a birth of Miryam and ask ourselves if we believe Yahushua (spelling?) died for sins or not. I am far from saying I agree with Paul or that I think the so called NT is a perfect collection of things maybe, but are you arguing that there was a Counsil of Trene in the 16th century that decided the 66 and do we truly know if there is a true Gospel written by anyone called Thomas or Judas?
-Jacob
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