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Ron Paul Blasts “Secret Government” Running Economy
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Congressman warns middle class in danger of being wiped out, says Congress is oblivious and Fed has no clue
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
September 18, 2008
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Congressman Ron Paul has issued a stinging address concerning the financial crisis in which he outlines how the current economic problems, created via malinvestment and shift to a debt based economy, are now being mismanaged by private interests in secret.
What’s more he says he is not sure the Federal Reserve has any idea what to do next and that the Congress is totally oblivious to the whole sorry state of affairs – a cocktail of elements he warns puts the middle class of America in serious jeopardy.
“Today we had a lot of financial fireworks in the markets, a lot of things are going on, and I think we are in the middle of something very big.” the Congressman stated.
Speaking on the recent collapse and government bailout of several big financial institutions he warned:
“We’re talking about big bucks, we’re not talking about hundreds of millions or even hundreds of billions, we’re talking about trillions of dollars, the obligation is immeasurable.”
“The interesting thing is that they (the financial institutions) don’t come to the Congress, I mean the Federal Reserve buys them out, they own it. We as tax payers now own Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and know one knows how much that will cost. They don’t come to the Congress, we don’t have appropriations, it’s done by secret government, private individuals behind the scenes maneuvering and manipulating and trying to patch things up. While in the meantime, I’m sure there’s a few people making a couple of bucks out of this whole thing.”
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The Congressman highlighted how an economy structured on debt and credit and a financial system based on interventionism and self serving moral hazard has led to gross devaluation of the dollar and ultimately lies at the root of the current financial meltdown.
“Our problems come first of all from the Federal Reserve. It is a monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causes people to make mistakes, that’s the basic source. But then on top of that in the Housing market we had the community reinvestment act which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and that was a risky complication. HUD contributes to this, FDIC contributes, it’s called moral hazard, everything that we have done over here creates moral hazard, that is we assure people or assume that we will take care of everybody, just go out and create the risk, it is the opposite of the market place.” Paul stated.
“You can’t create money like we’re doing in order to support the dollar, because ultimately it hurts the dollar and everything we do in Washington today whether its on the appropriations side, whether it’s what the Fed is doing, buying up America, it’s all putting pressure on the dollar. One of these days we’re just going to have to wake up and say that we need to liquidate debt. This is malinvestment.” he urged.
The Congressman then slammed those who have blamed the crisis on failures of the free market:
“And then they have people come along and say ’see, this is the failure of capitalism’, this has nothing to do with capitalism, this is something that started off as interventionism and us being too involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests. But now it is being socialized out in the open.”
“The end of this comes when people reject the dollar and I think we’re getting awfully close to this.” Paul stated echoing comments from leading investors such as Jim Rogers, who predicted Monday that the dollar would soon lose its world reserve status.
“When you see the movement in the markets that we have today, you know that there are serious problems out there and Congress basically are oblivious, they have no idea what’s going on.” Paul continued.
“As a matter of fact I’m not even sure the Federal Reserve has any idea what to do about this. They’ve been manipulating and maneuvering for their own benefit over the years but eventually the market wins out.”
The Congressman’s comments were echoed today by reports indicating that the Congress cannot agree on any form of action and is likely to simply adjourn and “get out of the way”.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters that “no one knows what to do”.
In a stark warning, Ron Paul stressed that the longer the value of the dollar is allowed to depreciate, the greater the risk becomes for the majority of Americans:
“The reason this is so important is that if you care about people in a humanitarian sense, what you want to do is protect the value of the money. Just think of the third world nations when they have total run away inflation, the middle class gets wiped out. And what we are seeing today is the middle class being jeopardized by this type of system that we have, unlimited spending, unlimited debt, unlimited creation of new credit.”
“So it’s time that we wake up… The answers are in the free market, sound money and our Constitution.” Paul concluded.
Watch the full address by the Congressman:
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September 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Ron Paul is the only humanistic politician left…. end of story! Let’s put it this way, if he was the head of the NWO on the other side of the coin so as to speak… for the good. Yep, we would have honesty, integrity, chances to grow educationally, growth of humanity as a whole!
As it stands people… we’re screwed all ends up EXCEPT to fight our way out of this! What do you think people?
Kev
September 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Wow.
Slavery.
What makes the people at CNN and wherever else in the media think that they won’t fall too? I can’t understand that they are actually that dumb.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
well someone is going to make some a lot of money with this event and many people are going to get ripped off.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Response to #1 Kev,
Ron Paul needs a translator so most will understand what he is saying. People listening to him so not even have time to take notes if they had to. Had to play the clip several times to get the full message from him. If Ron Paul was able to speak fluently like Obama then he would have been the Republican candidate instead of McCain. It would be worth it for someone to become his translator so that his message does get out. The power map is being remapped by the central banking system and the US is not included so you can expect the US to fold soon. Many US citizens have already fled the country.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
it’s past time to wake up, it’s over !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
youtube.com/goldieshome
September 18th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I told people for over 6 months now that the US economy is about to fail. I have family in America, they thought it was funny. That is the mentality of most Americans. “Oh, our politicians would never lie to us, our economy is great!” How can people make the same mistake so many times?? How many times have presidents made promises that never came true, how many times have we found out that they were lying and keeping secrets from us. Yet nobody demands answers but the most intelligent. When the intelligent make their case people laugh because they don’t see this as reality. Once again the truth has hit, and what will happen?? Will the American people be lied to again?? History repeats itself constantly, and yes they are too ignorant to study the truth. They would rather watch sports, watch celebrities, learn about fake religions, and gossip about things that do not matter. We as a whole, are responsible for all the actions we do on this earth. We are responsible to fix this mess, and hold those accountable that have orchestrated this. The financial problem we face was orchestrated and designed by the elite who own all the worlds money and power. Only when we conquer them can we continue to evolve in the path of creation.
September 18th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Current debt per American = $62,300 and rising ….
September 18th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Well buddy i dont speak of the AJ new world order like its fact, that would be dumb. But i do like Paul, i dunno about abolishin the FDA though
September 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Apathy on this subject is amazing! when will the public become angry at the financial theft of american institutions? will they even have a clue as to what it means? when the nations largest mortgage lenders and insurance company become privatized overnight, what can’t the fed, our own private & unfortunatley real us government, do?
September 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Hey nolan, the problem with the “intelligent,” is that they mischaracterize and lie, as u have, just like the uninteliigent
September 18th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Hey everyone… There are only two options left.
1) SHUT THE F*&^ UP AND STOP COMPLAINING, WHINING AND MOANING.
OR
2) DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
What’s it going to be?
Or are you going to wait until you are in the bread line until you wave your protest banner, made from old cereal boxes. You are being laughed at.
mark Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
protest banners are not going to get us out of this jackass.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This reminds me of the movie “Water World”… I kinda picture the old guy sitting at the bottom of the tank checking the oil level every time Capt. Joe called down for the amount of oil left..and when the old man responded Capt. Joe would spit down on his head.. Then the time came when when the actor Kevin Costner dropped a flare down on the old man and the old man responded”Thank God”..because his penance was over and he would be dead …..
Ron Paul nor any other politicians can change this mess now.. if they could..Someone please explain HOW?
Print MORE MONEY????
That is why we are here now…
There is but one way to pay now..and unfortunately it is a price few will be willing to pay.. and that is with the red stuff circulating in our veins..
This is just another period building up to a manipulated..but inevitable war…
Now if we learned from history.. This time the war should be turned on the profiteers of war..
If we haven’t… Just another chapter in history…
September 18th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
#4 Joe Rogers in response;
I think that half you said was right about the delivery but the meat on the bones of that delivery was bang on! This man is coming clean on what’s going on and sinking the economy. Let’s put it this way, greedy people are making a killing and the killing is on us. He commented on “special interests´´ OVER the government??? Hello????? Listen Joe, if this keeps going…. we will not be able to debate this point and other points because we will be so busy taking care of feeding Family or ourselves… somewhere in the region of 90% of income dedicated to feed ourselves because of hyperinflation.
Kev
September 18th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
RON PAUL IS OUR HERO.
Rhonda
September 18th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Truthteller, quit whining about peoples whining and do something!!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
This is interesting. Yesterday, Wednesday, the 17th, on Air America radio, a Democratic network around the country, on the Rachael Maddow Show during the first hour, she was interviewing someone asking him some questions about McCain and his campaign. Half of those questions pertained to Ron Paul and even had as part of her “quick clips” part of one of his speeches about the collapse of the economy. Although she was interviewing and that means mainly asking questions, she was bringing up how the McCain people (mainly) blockaded the Ron Paul success in Nevada and then what happened to them during the Republican National Convention, which the guest fully agreed with saying how bad that was and that he thinks some outcomes from it are yet to be over with. They mentioned how the Republican people tried to interfere with the Ron Paul Rally during the convention and how they arrested journalists and others using battering rams to break into homes. (Also, Amy Goodman has been all over on NPR with others talking about the arrests.)
The most interesting part was that Rachael Maddow brought up that Dr. Paul is running as some sort of an independent on the presidential ticket in the state of Montana. The interviewer said he was aware of that, but had no details about it since he was aware of the Libertarians wanting Dr. Paul to run on the ticket with Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party. In addition to that, they spoke about how probably the Libertarians really do not care about Dr. Paul, but want him and all his supporters since the supporters are able to generate money and Bob Barr is penniless with some casino man as his VP..
If anyone has more information on that, please let us know. At least if you maybe hear more about this, most likely on Air America only, please report it here or in as many similar ariticles here. Thanx.
Rhonda
September 18th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Get ready people!! an economic collapse is just as bad as a war with Iran, imagine them both at the same time. Either way we are almost there! Martial Law is coming soon. Gear Up, Stock Up, and lock and load your weapons because you are going to need them to keep your families alive.
September 18th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
The whole banking system is a fraud. Money is debt, the more debt that is created, the more interest they earn. You’re going to have this crisis over and over again, some will be bigger than others. The only solution is for gob to take control of the Fed R and all Central Banks. Why does the gob has to pay interest for borrowing money?.Bills are only pieces of paper, not backed by any tangible goods such as gold or silver , and they keep printing whithout limit . Bring back the power to the people an stop this s--- for once and all!!!.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
again i tried and people would rather believe a lie than face the truth. ive been ridiculed, called names, and laughed at. with the cuurent state of our economy no longer hidden i felt the short term feeling of whose laughing now but mind you it was momentary now im just plain terrified.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Hey Truthteller,
Your comment reminds of that breadline in Russia in that movie, MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON….
You got a Soviet Comrade’s apartment we can borrow for a bit of Russian Passion?
Let’s put it this way — I guess the future ain’t going to be boring?
JMCSwan
September 18th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Let’s stick with practical solutions…
Plant your own food, purchase as many gold & silver coins as you possibly can, buy extra grains and food that won’t spoil. Become as self-sufficient as possible and prepare your family with emergency plans.
Fast, pray and spread the word so all your loved ones will be prepared, as well.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!
We are building our own prisons! are you reading this? WE need to stop funding them to build our own Prisons! there is something that we can do that works and its called civil disobedience!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets all set this year as no tax year! Tell everyone. All Americans need to be involved! we dont need the elite! we dont need the fed. Lets show them we dont need them, we out number them over a 100/1
they are weak we are many. Lets start a nation wide NO TAX YEAR! if Ron Paul still has any money left from his campaign he should use this last resort power of the people YES WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER! and we can show them we have the power by not paying them to imprison US. WE DONT EVEN HAVE TO BREAK THE LAW, BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW THAT STATES WE HAVE TO PAY TAXES!
THE FEDS ONLY HAVE THIS POWER OF AN AXE IF WE PAY THE TAX!
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
ANYONE LISTENING YET! PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
PAY NO TAX
SPEAK OUT SHOUT IT FROM YOUR ROOF TOPS! WE NEED TO ACT NOW!
civil disobedience
civil disobedience
civil disobedience
IF WE DO THIS OUR CHILDREN CAN LIVE FREE OUR GRAND CHILDREN CAN LIVE FREE.
civil disobedience
PAY NO TAX! WAKE UP PEOPLE WHEN ONE DOES IT MORE WILL DO IT BUT WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE CAMPAIGNFORLIBERTY.COM
SHOUT IT LOUD WE WANT FREEDOM FOR OUR CHILDREN! THEY ARE FEW WE ARE MANY!
DO WHAT IS RIGHT, THIS IS WHAT WORKS! BE A PATRIOT!
I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.
UNITED PEOPLE… UNITED WE STAND. LETS PUT ALL DIFFERENCES ASIDE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GREAT STAND THAT WILL BE KNOWN FOR THE REST OF TIME, ON HOW AMERICAN PATRIOTS ALL STOOD TOGETHER TO FIGHT CORRUPTION AND BRING OUR DYING COUNTRY BACK!
September 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Wall street just went up.
A briliant plan to develop a dept repository where we can just chuck our bad debts and tax dollars like we did with the S&L trip. See , congress does know what it is doing. Now they can not use the insanity plead to get out of this mess they made.
I find it interesting that it took a bush in office to oversee the S&L scandle and a Bush in office to oversee this mess and in both instances the same dept repository bait and switch was used to skin Americans of their savingd for their old age.
Then again , there has been plenty of time to work on the fleecing of the baby boomers . What a harvest for them , the same ones that caused them all that grief back in the sixty’s with their pesky questions and demands for honest answers.
Paybacks are hell.
Porky
September 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters that “no one knows what to do”.”
Look at that statement, ain’t that s---ting right into people’s face.
This dude holds major public position and he has the guts to spit out that they don’t know what they are doing. God help us.
Comes to my mind, public positions are jobs just like others, wouldn’t it be better if people must apply for these positions and if they don’t qualify=get the hell outta there. Shouldn’t these positions come with some kind of responsibility and liability? I mean, when I screw my job I get fired, are these dudes immune to anything on this Earth?
September 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
You forgot about buying guns.
Do it now.
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8pm ET
DEFEND YOURSELVES…
September 18th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Get ready to roll…..
Freedom and Liberty will not sit long
Hardcore.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
#27 says to tell all your friends not to pay taxes. Yeah, that ought to go over pretty well. Instead of telling your friends to provoke the rouge IRS, tell them to vote for Chuck Baldwin. If he is elected he will eliminate the personal income tax.
September 18th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
I meant #22. Vote for Chuck Baldwin.
September 18th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Ron Paul is such a Worry Wart!!
Doesn’t he Know the American People are in Control and have Elected the “Maverick” and “Change” to save us??
HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!!!! I Personally can’t wait for Martial Law and FEMA Camps!!!
It’s for our “Safety” and Mother Earth!! LOL!!
September 18th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
To those of you who don’t understand Ron Paul’s message and solution, please watch the video several times and then get a copy of a Ron Paul book. His message is clear as a bell to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. One suggestion: Educate yourself about money and credit. Then get a copy of the U.S. constitution and read every section that describes our governments power to spend money and what money is in America. This will take a little of your time;,but what the hey, you’ll have plenty as you stand in the breadline. I was under educated myself twenty years ago when I first heard Ron Paul’s message. Let it be known that I won’t be standing in a breadline thanks to Doctor Paul. He has been speaking “clear as a bell” since before and all through the current election cycle but, unfortunetely most individuals have ben listening to donkeys and elephants. Welcome to the real world!
September 18th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Ralph, Ron, & Cynthia:
Now they’re planning the crime of the century
Well what will it be?
Read all about their schemes & adventuring
It’s well worth the fee
So roll up and see
How they rape the universe
How they’ve gone from bad to worse
Who are these men* of lust, greed, & glory?
Rip off the masks & let’s see
But that’s not right, oh no, what’s the story?
There’s you & there’s me
That can’t be right
September 18th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Palm Trall, there will be no FEMA camps or martial law. Alex Jones is hung up on that for whatever reason. HE has been saying martial law and fema camps for 15 years. That’s just the sensationlist side of Alex Jones. Just listen to the GUESTS he has. His SHOW is great, but he always puts his paranoia in his comments. Alex Jones is right on IRan and the war on drugs and a lot of stuff but then he goes overboard with chemtrails and fema camps and martial law. He know his stuff about the criminals in the CIA and the white house.
September 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I WISH AMERICA WOULD LISTEN AND ACT NOW.RON PAUL IS THE MAN. GOD BLESS HIM.
September 18th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ok Eddie, believe what you want, On what do you base your assumption that there will be no martial law ? and what do you know about chemtrails, I don’t think you know as much as you would like to think you do. I think you had better do some real research, and see what the German people found out from there Government about chemtrails. Then again, never mind,you can’t save them all.
September 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Hey Eddie Arreola: Actually I have seen two of these camps with my own eyes I was in the Marine Corps and I assure you that these places exist! One of them that I saw was in Northern Washington state and it was built to hold close to 20,000 people. Also there is one in Texas state. You can look them up man its not that difficult. I mean the thing annoying me about your comments is that you didnt take the time to research. I mean I have said it over and over I will pay $10,000 to anyone in here that can show me evidence that Alex has EVER said anything that was an out and out lie or anything that he didn’t give supporting evidence for!!!!
HOORAH and SEMPER FI!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Fret not thyself because of evildoers,
neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass,
and wither as the green herb.
3 Trust in the LORD, and do good;
so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
4 Delight thyself also in the LORD;
and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
5 Commit thy way unto the LORD;
trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
6 And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light,
and thy judgment as the noonday.
7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him:
fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way,
because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath:
fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9 For evildoers shall be cut off:
but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be:
yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; Mt. 5.5
and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12 The wicked plotteth against the just,
and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13 The Lord shall laugh at him:
for he seeth that his day is coming.
14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow,
to cast down the poor and needy,
and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart,
and their bows shall be broken.
16 A little that a righteous man hath
is better than the riches of many wicked.
17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken:
but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright:
and their inheritance shall be for ever.
19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time:
and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20 But the wicked shall perish,
and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs:
they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again:
but the righteous showeth mercy, and giveth.
22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth;
and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD:
and he delighteth in his way.
24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down:
for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
25 I have been young, and now am old;
yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken,
nor his seed begging bread.
26 He is ever merciful, and lendeth;
and his seed is blessed.
27 Depart from evil, and do good;
and dwell for evermore.
28 For the LORD loveth judgment,
and forsaketh not his saints;
they are preserved for ever:
but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29 The righteous shall inherit the land,
and dwell therein for ever.
30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom,
and his tongue talketh of judgment.
31 The law of his God is in his heart;
none of his steps shall slide.
32 The wicked watcheth the righteous,
and seeketh to slay him.
33 The LORD will not leave him in his hand,
nor condemn him when he is judged.
34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way,
and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land:
when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
35 I have seen the wicked in great power,
and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
36 Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not:
yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright:
for the end of that man is peace.
38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together:
the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD:
he is their strength in the time of trouble.
40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them:
he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them,
because they trust in him.
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September 18th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Dr. Ron Paul is so brilliant, so articulate, so well-informed.
Compared to him, the two Presidential candidates and their VP side-kicks come off with all the intelligence of a block of wood!
It is an unfortunate circumstance in our country that you get the gvt that you pay for. Nobody wanted Dr. Paul, he bucked the System, he wouldn’t bow to any outside pressure, he wouldn’t kow-tow to the special interests or from international pressure from Israel, so he was ignored to death by EVERY mainstream media outlet. The mainstream candidates conspired to push him off the stage and silence him.
Good job, guys! I hope you’re gonna enjoy eating cardboard, freezing in the dark!
September 18th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
#33….Plunge protection machine. Right Right You’re bloody well right!
September 18th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
SO? Since WE TAX payers own part of these INVESTMENT Instituitions? We GET a Pay check from them when they profit…right? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT! Pffft!
September 18th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
There are no gods, but Ron Paul is still the right man for President.
Talk about “Straight Talk” and “Change”.
September 18th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
So, can anyone confirm what I heard on Air America, yesterday, Wednesday, that Ron Paul is on an independent party ticket in the state of Montana? They said that they did not have the details. If this is so, I would expect Alex Jones to be commenting on it soon enough if it recently happened or am surprised that he has not commented on it if it has been for a long time.
Rhonda
September 18th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
WHERE IS CHIM CHIM??? CHIM CHIM WE NEED YOU!!! He’s working very very hard to fix the problem.. Um.. Here is how Chimp works hard.. ” Ok, Dick? You got what you need? Are you all set? How about your boys? Everybody stolen what they need to steal? Guys? Are we good? Ok, continue the freefall!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA That’s CHIMPY 101.. He destroyed us and he needs to be punished!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Where is Al Gore when we need him most???? AL??? Dont you have anything intelligent to say you fat useless BASTARD? Al? Oh, shhhhh AL’s counting his money.. He’s in on it too!! COUNT IT UP DOUGHBOY!! COUNT IT UP!! When it all goes down, you’ll get yours!!
September 18th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Talking about TAX PAYERS. I believe that it has finally come to the point in time where that phrase should not be used anymore. It was good years ago when Clinton was in or whenever it generally has been used, but by using it now, it is doing the old “divide and conquer” scenerio. The enemy has become so bad that when the term “tax payer” is used, it has people thinking…”us, who pay taxes, and them, who are leeching off of us”. We have a common enemy as AMERICANS. It should not be the “tax payers” who are thought of as being in this fight. It must be all Americans which to some extent even includes those illegally here. That terminology even tends to subliminally disenfrancise people who are renting since generally one thinks about taxes involving real estate as well as income taxes even though it is true that we all pay taxes anytime we purchase something. Still, the term automatically separates the very people who are being attacked by “them”. Think about that.
Remember, DIVIDED WE FALL. UNITED WE STAND. We are all AMERICANS first!
Rhonda
September 18th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
testing i 2 3 fascist censor test
September 18th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
“It’s the end of the world as we know it… It’s the end of the world as we know it… It’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.”
September 18th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Ron Paul is 100% correct and America has become the cash cow through the Federal Reserve Act and central banking, on the behalf of bureaucrats and elite off shore investors that have robbed this nation blind.
One of the best ways to launder and pump money out of America and to those off shore markets, is through war profiteering and so we see all kinds of reasons to go to war and then bilk the system because of the urgent need that gets created to justify overriding Congress, to get the gravy train of huge allocations.
We saw all this with the Iran Contra, selling expensive arms to allies and even to the enemy, as we set them up to fight, buy more and more like a narcotics addiction, to the crime of racketiers and profitiers that have no conscience. So now they have taken it off shore big time and it’s a money pump right out of this country and into the hands of mostly non US markets and investors.
One of the main reasons JFK was killed is because he understood and opposed this corrupt and finely built money racketeering machine, using foreign markets in such a way, as to disguise just what Americans are being bilked for, how and why. For any of you that know some history, JFK refused to allow the reduction of backing on the US dollar by nearly half, just before he was assassinated. He also refused to go along with one of the biggest racketeering schemes under the guise of war, to be induced by a false flag event called Operation Northwoods. Operation Northwoods for those that do no know, was the design of a false flag attack by our own Joint Chief of Staff, to stage an attack on this country by our own black opps division of the US military, to be blamed on Castro & Cuba, to justify a full blown invasion of Cuba. They wanted to blow up a US ship, shoot down a planeload of college students, attack buildings in Florida and Washington with explosives and blame Castro. They wanted to paint and modify US fighter planes to look like Soviet MIGS, so that people in airliners would see the Soviet planes with their own eyes, to create convincing stories for the news papers. For anyone that want to learn more, the now declassified document from our own US archives can be found through Google as Operation Northwoods and there are many listings, some of which include photocopies of the full document 15 pages long. It’s a real eye opener, especially when one considers the real meaning behind the words God, county & patriotism and what those in uniform are willing to die for from the very heart and soul of the meaning of freedom itself.
So basically we are now in the same place, a much desirable state of affairs by the Neocons of war profiteering and cenralized banking, with the events of 9/11 and going to war under a false flag, resupporting our allies as we, “Contra” in the fast lane, depending upon whom can be jabbed into attacking whom. The knowledge gained and perfected from the Iran Contra and passage of the Patriot Act now hides the truth, as they now lick their lips to squander every last dime out of this country by trading with the enemy on a grand profiteering scale. America has become the cash cow to the whims of the elite empowered, that sees America and it’s citizenry, the same as a timber company see’s a giant forest. That is, we are like timber to be harvested, dead or alive, putting the meaning of decency and moral suffering to the wayside.
Keep in mind these markets are off shore along with the profits gained and they pay no taxes to the cash cow of America, that has been bilked down to a nearly worthless dollar. Back when JFK was president, the dollar was backed by nearly 40% gold and the bureacrats running the show back then, wanted to reduce that backing down to only 20%. His refusal to sign that piece of legislation really gave the progressive bureaucrats a major black eye with thier plans for progressive centralized banking, which would have made America the slave it now is to the foreign bankers and markets. And today we are total hostages to their demands!!!
Now these markets demand when and where we should go to war depending on what the prizes will be for them, from oil to WHO GETS THAT OIL and what the price will be. The next level to this plan is of course a global carbon tax paid to the UN(foreign controller) that will decide which countries they want to stimulate ecconomically and which ones they want to put out of buisness, based upon which group of elite investors has the most at stake. This is really what our money is being used for, when it goes through the laundry of centralized banking, war, profiteering and off shore marketeering. These wars have nothing to do with humanity and decency or telling the truth. In fact, everything we have been taught my mainstream under the control and approval of these evil bastards, is a psycholocal lie as big as little red riding hood telling Grand Ma how big her eyes are. Now see those big eyes, Grand Ma’s eyes have grown because she adores us so much, my, what love she must have for us, right?
And the problem is so big, it remains off the radar abilies of the average US citizen to even comprehend.
The short version is, they are trading with the enemy using our money and profiteer on both sides of the money pump and you pay for it because it’s a war. But, it’s not a real war, it’s all been manicured and raised out of think tank, same as the Federal Reserve Act which makes it all possible, along with politics and blind patriotism which has been hijacked and misled to support a grand lie that is, “if you are not with them, you are the enemy and never pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Don’t you want us to win the war??!!”
Yeah, yeah, I know, the tooth fairy will be here tomorrow.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
The government is denying the middleclass the right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The middleclass has been a slave class. A slave to debt. It is time to overthrow the government and institute new government. It is the RIGHT of the people! We need a “french revolution!” Kill the rich.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
This collapse is being orchestrated. It’s been a long time in the planning. Oh and there’s more to come are you ready for WWIII and aliens? lol
September 18th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Privatised Profits, Ntionalised Failings, now tell me the Global Elite don’t run the whole show.
Punish the Banks not the People, eradicate all Mortgage debt so people get to keep their homes.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
look up rex 84…martial law is comming you wanna be blue or yellow? find out the truth.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
It’s easy to criticize the moves the goverment’s be making-especially if you know nothing about economics or the consquences of the U.S./us the taxpayers not stepping in and backing these insurance companies fannie mae, freddy mac, AIG. If we let them fail then the entire global economy is goes to s---. Now atleast the global markets have a chance at recovery and US companies will prosper again, creating more tax revenue (specially if Obama wins and increases the tax rate for the rich) which is needed to pay off the huge deficit. Bottom line, the hundreds of billions taxpayers are spending now will create a Net Present Value for the greater good of the country. Ron Paul is off his rocker about so many issues I’m not even going to get started.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
What is ahead is massive inflation, monetary collapse (really the same thing as massive inflation), and that will rip through the economy, destroy business, and leave the entire country impoverished. We’ll be Calcutta or Nicaragua. It’s going to be nasty. I don’t know how to fix it, except get out of debt and begin a new monetary system.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
you live in a fantasy world josh. pretending the world economy exists only because of freddy/fanny et all is childish at best. china, india would now buffer a global depression. life would go on in other countries and we would be bought up like cheap bagels and quicky be a vassal state of foreign ownership. with our unrecoverable debt this is going to happen sooner or later. keep yacking. you will be proven wrong over time like 99 percent of the deniers that crawl onto this site
September 18th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
They, the congressbaggers know goddamn good & welll whats going on. So do the state gov’ts and their protection troops who’ve known of the situation for a few years now. Law enforcement secret briefs and culling of their herd continues with suicides in the ranks-I’d like to see the stats on the last 8-9 years on that. Back to the ball game & a corn dog. errp.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
It’s so darn obvious that these are just games of elitists over cattle/sheeple. The Act of 1871 didn’t help much, huh? Corporations are treated as people, but really as superpeople with their lobbyists. Your precious, and ingrained from inception, elitism is taking it’s course. The famous suspected Illuminati, Nostradamus, predicted, like other timelines did, 2012 to be…It’s al been preplanned, not predicted through some Magic Silver Mirror and drug trip. Welcome to the REALity. We are being sooo played its almost a good laugh, hot stuff with a hatpin, and good fun with a handgun. But it’s really a cry.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
It doesn’t matter who gets in, this country is finished.
September 18th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
We are ensalaved by debt. Every US Dollar in circulation is loaned at interest. There are never enough dollars in existence to pay off the existing loans at interest. WAKE UP SHEEP!
September 18th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Mr. Josh I notice how you call We The Poeple taxpayers, maybe you should use the term slaves. And you don’t know anything about economics If you watched this video clip, and as far as that idiot criminal illigal none citizen obama goes, this is proof of how stupid you are, he cannot be president he is NOT born in this country! You are so concerned about global markets you should move to those countrys and stay thier! You obviously went to a government (called public) school and they brainwashed you pretty good! You should read the Constitution and probably have someone with you to explain it to you, you probably don’t have the brains like most domocrats, and democrat clone repubilcans to understand it, you are what I call s--- for brains!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
O.K. we have to do something soon or we are BBQ!!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Just sit back and relax folks. Instead of everybody wondering what’s going to happen next. How about start preparing for the worst. Stock up on s---. And lots of it. Ammo food. And instead of buying up gold and silver. How about stocking up on firewood. That’s right. Firewood will be more valuable than anything. Who cares what banks are crashing. And who in Government is f---ing all of us into the poor house. Start taking care of yourselves and family. We all know its coming. Bush and his f---ed up master plan to rule the world s---. Let them all play the game while we play ours and prepare for battle.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Just sit back and relax folks. Instead of everybody wondering what’s going to happen next. How about start preparing for the worst. Stock up on s---. And lots of it. Ammo food. And instead of buying up gold and silver. How about stocking up on firewood. That’s right. Firewood will be more valuable than anything. Who cares what banks are crashing. And who in Government is f---ing all of us into the poor house. Start taking care of yourselves and family. We all know its coming. Bush and his f---ed up master plan to rule the world s---. Let them all play the game while we play ours and prepare for battle.
http://thehowlingrooster.com/bunker.html
September 18th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
We all know “they” are evil, but who are “they”? Let me tell you: They are the Jews who own and operate Wall Street, strictly to their own advantage. They, of course, are the Jews who–at the Federal Reserve–have for nearly a century surreptitiously been transferring the nation’s wealth from the Gentile majority to the Yiddish minority. And, of course, they are the Jew traitors at the U.S. Treasury who have aided and abetted Wall Street and the Fed to rob and exterminate the middle class. It is time for us to screw the Jews–without the benefit of intercourse. Well, most of them are fudge-fornicating perverts anyway.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
We are about to become serfs. Life as we know it is all going to change. ‘THE RICH’ are out nothing but my parents, your parents and our families are all going to be sweating on how to pay for ‘luxuries’ like food and keeping the lights on. People the future we have is about to become bleak, scary and dark. Take the cookie jar away from these fat brats. We gotta wake up stop following the leader and think for ourselves. WE need to stop filling up on 5.00 a gallon crap and start saying NO. This is going to lead to chaos, bloodshed and needless violence. There is nothing free anymore and I personally don’t want to live on cat food and pray for the possiblity of loose change. This is the endgame and its just beginning.
September 18th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
This poem is for people but oft hard to bear,
We hope you consider these warnings and dare,
To help in our struggle against the Cyclops,
Of presidents, directors and military cops!
When we try to spread news of the following/preceding furies,
“Lock them up now!” cry the preprogrammed juries!
So we ask for help from the myopic judges,
Who tell us our lawyers just gave in to nudges!
In cities we see that that government brass,
Lock up people just because of their class,
Police standing around massaging the triggers,
(Quoting NYPD, “we’re not just bid-riggers!”)
And when we say please forget not the Poor,
All at once there’s a knock, guards break down the door!
“We can’t allow these to get any stronger,
Then again that’s good reason for sentences longer!”
If they lock up poor people who’ve done no real crime,
Many people in prison, wasting their time.
Real felons, with badges, they always go free,
The facts get distorted mashed into puree!
“Just politics as usual!” You’ll say, no doubt,
“With these kinds of planners, we’ll never be out!”
But remember they’ll always need someone to blame,
You may be next, so watch just the same!
This brings up a lesson for all to see,
Watch out: for conformity breeds tyranny,
A mentality that pressures outsiders with jeers,
Insiders can’t tell you they walk blindly off piers!
Now: if you’re waiting around for those jeers to be cheers,
You’ve gotten the approval of the buddies and the peers!
So you hop on the bandwagon with a new set of orders,
Hoping the master will protect your daughters!
This Cyclops will grow and will turn the table,
On free speech and expression when he is able,
“By hook or by crook, they’ll be of one mind,”
Cyclops says, “Can’t you see they are blind!”
As war is sold, we’re part of the unions,
United false (prophets)-profits from all other humans,
Though they promised to use us mostly as traders,
Now we see we’ve become the invaders!
This media continues to perpetuate lies,
For government drug makers, NASA-close ties?
If we tell you that unifying bureaucratic might,
Is just one more tactic that they use for fright!
Now in this corner we see teachers trying to teach,
But the President tells us that he wants to preach,
And summon the Lord to clean up the messes,
But it seems God will wait until he confesses!
Concerning that classroom with kids trying to learn,
But the technos and experts say, “Give us a turn,
To fill them with words, SECURITY LACED
So the LOVE of this language will soon be erased!”
Thinking more about jargon, words ‘specially used,
Or talking points spoken, people are bruised,
Flashing lights and sirens- you’d better beware,’
Can be used in abundance like tech-talk to scare!
The red engines will whine with no reason,
But reporting it is now considered treason!
Oh so you thought that this noise was a sign of dedication?
That’s just perfect, and it means you won’t need more medication!
Within this city (country?) there’s multiple connections,
Networks of liars who are feigning corrections,
Alliances and mergers, a great big sore,
All these transactions, taxes galore!
From the bewilderness- thanks for coming James mansfield
September 18th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
callie ewing
I think you mean:
LIFE AS WE HAVE BECOME CONVINCED IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIVED….
September 18th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! VOTE RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!! WRITE IT IN, MAKE IT THE AMERICAN WAY!!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Josh – You really want facism don’t you…
September 18th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
BTW: no significant protests are possible unless the police presence is reduced/eliminated.
PERIOD. THEY WILL KILL US!
From the bewilderness–thank you for coming–James Mansfield
September 18th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
#55 your a complete moron!
isnt there a football game on go play fantasy football please your brain just isnt able to understand issues. He is saying we should go in a solve the problem JUST not goand lend them money without congress just through the complete unconstitutional fed reserve..do you even understand that its private you shmuck? now the private banks own all this s---.. please dont type when you havent even read your history. Vote obama or mccain get your chip and live merry…I REFUSE
September 18th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Good God #66, I’d rather die than live in that thing
September 18th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Josh you have no clue what your talking about. You indeed watch to much television and take into the lies and stupid excuses they tell you. Fool! People like you are the problem, to stupid to think for yourself. You need to be told how to dress, how to act, don’t do this, don’t do that. We need lousy monopoly companies to go down so other companies may rise. Why don’t you go back to watching american idol and let the adults take care of the matter. Dumbass!
September 18th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Oh yeah one more thing Josh look up Ron Paul’s voting record and compare it to any other congressman. Your off your rocker. Dumbass!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
#55 You’ll be one of the first to die, but isn’t ignorance bliss?
September 18th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I like Ron Paul. He speaks from his heart and his heart is set in the U.S. Constitution, which spoke of rights given from God. Yeah, so I am combining a few things here. But, it’s all a complete unit. As soon as the middle class became a formidable voting block after WWII both major parties have tried to minimize it. And both parties try to proclaim they are based on Christianity. But both parties ignore that which they don’t want to acknowledge and embrace that which suits their power grab. Uh, what is the story? Oh, yeh. The demise of the middle class. Sociallism, Communism and Capitalism all seek to destroy the middle class. Different names for the same thing: The demise of the middle class, the increasing of the lower class and the shoring up of the elite ruling class.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
The more consolidation of these investment banks, the greater the risks and abuses will occur, and then of course the Federal Reserve will have to bail them out because of the widespread effect on the markets. The problem is only getting worse. Now we are in the mortgage, banking, and insurance,business, and next it will be cars and airlines. Ron Paul is the only one who has been telling the truth and warning us of this all along.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I can’t wait to see the yuppies pieces of scum loose everything. The people who would not listen will NEVER get any help from me.
September 19th, 2008 at 12:03 am
I would like to say that Josh with his comment #55 actually does make sense. Since “they” have the power, it is a logical viewpoint. What makes me think that it is not a credible statement is his last negative sentence about Ron Paul. If Josh sees Dr. Paul that way, then he could be seeing the entire picture of the economy wrong also.
Even so, Josh has said something nice to me once before so therefore I will give him the benefit of the doubt on the main part of his comment since it is logically put forth.
Hello Josh,
Rhonda
PS: Just to be somewhat fair, there is another commentor here who also said something nice to me once before. Regrettably here this person is saying things about celebrities that is not so nice and that tends to bother me. The reason is that, just like my “tax payer” comment earlier here says, it lumps everyone together. How many celebrities alone has Alex Jones had on his show who are for our cause? I could be seen as a celebrity in another area outside of here and liked. I could be liked here, but if I say that I am a celebrity, then probably almost everything I say would all of a sudden become null and void by the same people.
PPS: Then I wonder about all the “Jews” statements here that comment about them owning some things of big business. I wonder if it would be seen as being different if it was just looked at that a person who happens to be Jewish owns the same place rather than the implication that the Jews have united as a group (conspiracy?) to overtake us all. If more statements about 9/11 said that Israel was the main player that day rather than just the Jews, maybe that would be seen in a better light by more people and might also be better taken.
I always disliked it when everyone said that 15 people who flew the planes on 9/11 were Saudis therefore the nation of Saudi had to be guilty. That would be like saying that if 15 or 20 of us Americans went down to Mexico and did a crime then it would mean that Mexico was under attack by the country of the United States. The logic in these comments make them not credible even if by chance they happen to be true.
September 19th, 2008 at 12:25 am
How about a “Debt Emancipation Proclamation” for those in debt to the crooks running the banks.
Oops, sorry, I forgot that we’re supposed to be slaves to the criminals ruining our country.
I should be content to live in a fascist police state.
George Bush ist der Sieg! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!…..there, I feel much better now.
September 19th, 2008 at 2:20 am
Rhonda I dig your style. Way to put forth calm slicing logic with no emotional bias! That is the way the war is won.
September 19th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Rhonda, you make clear and static free sense. I agree that there is alot of “Jews did it” rhetoric floated about to color any implication of Isarili statecraft operations and agendas as “Jew bashing”. I believe we, as a truth and accountability movement, need to be wary of letting our attempts to illuminate Mossad, ISI and U.S. Intellegence Service, as well as predominently Jewish controlled Corporate influences be cast as an attempt to assign cultural or religious guilt. This may well be an orchestrated attempt to demonize anyone seeking the truth as being racist.
I believe we are well served by being mindfull of the fact that the adversary we face is eliteism, corruption, deception, deciet, and evil. It is NOT a culture, religion or ethnic group. Our adversary wears the mask of many peoples, yet is not those groups as a whole, but mearly uses the most effecient tools it has access to at any given time.
The problem with our current U.S. Executive Branch is not Christianity. The problem with the eliteist-Zionist agenda of Israel is not Judiasiam, the threat from the Middle East is not Islam; It is the co-opted extremists bent on serving thier own and allied intrests at the expense of the good hearted souls who make up the majority of those populations.
Let’s not allow them further use of thier “divide and conquor” tool. Let’s not allow them to continue to put our populations at odds with each other while they play us like chess pieces.
Let’s DO search out and follow the evidence wherever it leads, unafraid of learning the true nature of our situation. Only then can we work together to build a better world and get past the old stumbling blocks of misplaced blame and unwarrented hatred of other groups of people.
Stewart Howe
WeAreChangeLA
September 19th, 2008 at 4:26 am
An impoverished nation becomes a slave-state. The “Government” will hire millions to police and detain the rest. The Media is blinding us. The collapse of the economy is a step toward erasing the economy and creating the neo-feudal, New World Order. with world-population-reduction a priority. “They” put AIDS into Africa and into unwanted sub-cultures in US. And mandatory “vaccinations” are on the way. They’ve pumped thousands tons of depleted AND enriched uranium into the Mideast and the Balkans. Hawaii is contaminated with d.u. from “training”. College grads are finding jobs, mostly in the ‘Intelligence’ community. etc etc The Police State is here. Martial Law is being enacted without being declared. Those with the least to lose, by resisting, (the poor) are the first targets. The middle class is already captured by their debt and dreams. Then someone is going to step to “save” us.
Beware the Antichrist.
September 19th, 2008 at 7:00 am
Maybe now Paul’s message will be carrierd aloft on the wings of this crisis for all to hear.
September 19th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Damn, they are insisting on breaking this country, will a day come when the American People immigrate to China looking for Jobs?
September 19th, 2008 at 7:26 am
I wish people would stop trying to be politically correct all the time for fear of reprisal or imprisonment and say things as they really are. Based on statisitical principals, how likely do you suppose it is that a small nation such as Isreal would have such a large contingent of it’s cultural decendants rule such a large part of the economical and political landscape of the US WITHOUT corruption, hubris and criminal activity? Is it because Jews are just smarter than the rest that they are able to control such a large part of the US? Do you really believe that?
Why don’t we just say it the way it is and stop trying to defend the nation. It’s obvious that not ALL Jews are corrupt murderers. But as Mike #88 says, why don’t the ‘innocent’ Jews speak out? Or is it convenient for them not to be vocal because they are the indirect benefactors of the Jewish ‘black sheep’?
Funny how we call the unenlightened ’sheep’ and deride them when they come on this forum and say things like “911 wasn’t an inside job. Get a life CT’s” yet when the Isrealis are silent or a jew comes on and says ‘it’s not the isreali people’, we defend them.
The proof is in the pudding. It’s all around you. Get out a map and put a pin in the country of ancestry for each individual in the Forbes 500 richest people. See if Isreal is not represented an inordinate number of times. You can stay blind to the fact and/or remain silent about it but I won’t.
Did you ever realize that you get the greatest media blacklash from saying negative things about Jews but far less from saying anything about any other nationality. In fact, the majority hate crimes cases have been prosecuted for things said about Jews. But potically incorrect does not necessarily mean factually incorrect.
September 19th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Something you might not know. Louis Thomas McFadden (July 25, 1876 – October 1, 1936) was a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Pennsylvania. McFadden remembered for his criticism of the Federal Reserve, which he claimed was created and operated by European banking interests who conspired to economically control the United States. On June 10, 1932, McFadden made a 25-minute speech before the House of Representatives, in which he accused the Federal Reserve of deliberately causing the Great Depression. McFadden also claimed that Wall Street bankers funded the Bolshevik Revolution through the Federal Reserve banks and the European central banks with which it cooperated. In 1932, he moved to impeach President Herbert Hoover, and also introduced a resolution bringing conspiracy charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve. The impeachment resolution was defeated by a vote of 361 to 8; it was seen as a big vote of confidence to President Hoover from the House.[5]
In 1933, he introduced House Resolution No. 158, Articles of impeachment for the Secretary of the Treasury, two assistant Secretaries of the Treasury, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, and the officers and directors of its twelve regional banks.
There were two attempts on McFadden’s life, a failed shooting and an apparent poisoning that made him “violently ill” after attending a political banquet in Washington
Congressman Larry McDonald was killed along with 268 other passengers on Korean Air Lines (KAL) flight 007, shot down over Sakhalin Island in the Sea of Japan.
On February 17, 1950, CFR member James Warburg (banker, and architect of the Federal Reserve System) stated before a Senate Foreign Relations Committee, “We shall have one world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent.
Congressman McDonald, Heinz and Tower stated that this is a conspiracy. Again, the media remained silent. (Reference 14, P. 17, 18, 32, 33). THE CFR WANTS TO ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION. (Reference 14) WE MUST STOP THEM!!
“Dan Rather’s face came on the screen, August 31/September 1, 1983, reporting that a passenger aircraft had been shot down by Soviet fighter planes over the Sea of Japan. And aboard was Congressman Lawrence Patton “Larry” McDonald. What Mr. Rather didn’t say, as no one dared say, for several days after the event…the damage control operation being, I assume, of incredible proportions…is that Larry McDonald was not only a 5-term U.S. Congressman, Democrat, from Georgia’s 7th district, but that he was simultaneously Chairman of the John Birch Society and President of Western Goals Foundation. What Mr. Rather also did not say–never will say–is, that Dr. McDonald (he was a Board certified physician, an M.D., with flight surgeon experience aboard Airforce 2, the Vice President’s craft) had announced that he would run for the Presidency of the United States in 1988, fact confirmed by McDonald’s trusted advisor and former OSS agent Hilaire duBerrier and by officials at John Birch Society’s headquarters and also via associates of Dr. McDonald, through his Western Goals Foundation.
Not coincidentally, 1988 was the year that George Bush ran for the Presidency and won. George Herbert Walker Bush had been or was, currently, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; Ambassador to the United Nations; Chairman of the Republican National Committee; a prominent member and director in the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and Yale’s Masonic Order of Skull & Bones, chapter 322.
Dr. Larry McDonald was the loudest, most sophisticated, elegant and handsome opponent of World Government on the face of the planet. He was our Patrick Henry and Ben Franklin and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, rolled up into one. The man was a soul on fire. Things came to loggerheads. There was no avoiding it. And when the word came, Larry McDonald was TAKEN OUT–assassinated–UPON ORDERS OF U.S. CIA, for exposing and attempting and threatening to expose the inner-sanctum secrets of the planners of World Government
These are some murdering bastards are they not!
September 19th, 2008 at 8:03 am
For continuing to vote for the Clintons, the Bushs, the McCains and the Obamas and re-electing 98% of the members of Congress, most Americans deserve to lose their life savings. You really do deserve it
September 19th, 2008 at 8:31 am
This is a pledge that a friend in the millitary stated to me(United ew stand/divided we fall)!!
LINE IN THE SAND
To all, I say LOVE is the true power and that the OATH taken by so many is a pledge out of care for what is good and right in this land we call America!
I myself do not wish for a fight and that I have called, emailed, pleaded, challenged to all concerned of their Responsibility and DUTY to the Oath for which they have pledged, from Police,Media, Politicians, Soldiers (I am a Armorer), friends, family and all that are in positions to make a positive effect. Still the ones that are in positions of power will not do THE RIGHT THING or even the job we elected them to, by protecting our sovereign rights as citizens of this land & by promise of their oath to office,leaving us citizens with the last resort to ever come closer.
I am just a man that loves his country and sadly I must now start preparing to defend this land I care so much about; not from some invading Foreign force but my very own ELECTED GOVERNMENT. This is a fight NONE of us should want but to all that have taken the Oath, REMEMBER this!!
Alot of good Men & Women have paid with their lives to keep this land free from the like’s of what we now face and remember that the Man or Woman standing next to you could very well hold true to the Oath that they have taken and so go ahead and commit acts of unconstitutional aggression against the citizens and you just might get a little surprise from the REAL MEN & WOMEN that serve our land and so to the one’s of honor, I SALUTE you and to the ones that dishonor their Oath, I pity you for when you hold your child, think about the world you are giving to that souls’ future and what you may soon be dying for, like I probably will, (at least my death will be with honor)!
(WILL YOURS)
Sighed,
A VET who cares
September 19th, 2008 at 8:36 am
get ready to march endthefeddotus
September 19th, 2008 at 8:38 am
march. march. march.
September 19th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Alright already, enough Jew bashing. It’s elitists vs. the rest of us. The good peoples of a nation or a religion are not the ones who want or ask for war…it’s our elitist rulers and the corporatocracy. The elite are using the iconic jewish state as the center of judeochristian faith in order to polarize and spread fear. Look they got us by the balls so well because theyve a rich understanding about the effect of religion on humanity while they get groomed above it all by some secret cult religion. …and cast your spell over these mortals!…Our funeral pyre awaits the corpse of care…Fools! Fools!…When again ye turn your faces to the marketplace. Do ye not find me waiting, as of Old?…Midsummer sets us free!!!…Oh, Great Owl of Bohemia! We thank Thee for Thy adoration!…Once again, Midsummer sets us free!!!
September 19th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Take note that yesterday, Thursday September 18th, 2008, during his THIRD broadcast hour of his show, Mr. Glenn Beck voiced two comments and one announcement: that the “FED” is the true group that runs the U.S. of America, that Woodrow Wilson formed an Agency in 1915 that arrested ANYONE who spoke against World War I, and that he (Glenn Beck) will have Ron Paul on Beck’s evening television Headline Prime broadcast.
My only question is: is Mr. Beck’s view of Zietgeist Part III finally sinking through his head, or is he just playing to his audience? Well, at least Beck wears half-way decent neckties.
–Lee
September 19th, 2008 at 9:19 am
I cannot understand why we are so fast asleep. The media should be on fire about these matters. Where are we going to go when we are finally aware that we have been taken by a handful of greedy, power-hungry louts who dare to steal our freedoms, our properties, our families, our souls?
We shall take to the streets, we shall fight from house to house, we shall never, never surrender. We must expose these conspirators and reclaim our manifest destiny as a free people. We must keep our powder dry, and protect our families, for our Constitution is in grave danger, and so are we.
September 19th, 2008 at 9:37 am
To The Anti-Semites: I am not Jewish by any stretch of the imagination. Understand, I am NOT denying that many of the banks of the Fed are owned by Jewish persons. BUT, nor am I supporting it. It very well may be true, many of the Jewish people I’ve known were very savvy businessmen (and women). There are elements of the Jewish culture which promote financial success. It would not surprise me that a large number of the individuals in such positions were of the Jewish faith. Good for them. AND SO WHAT? Are you jealous? Maybe you should’ve stayed in school instead of knocking up your cousin and getting a GED. Maybe you should have Majored in Biology and Pre-Med instead of Art History? Or instead of laying by the pool all summer and working in a Gelato shop, you should have taken an internship at Chase-Manhattan? Whatever reasons you may have for your attitudes, they are insufficient. To speak of any group of people in such sweeping terms, as if 20 people somehow are representative of a group of millions is just plain ignorant. Don’t externalize your personal short-comings. It shows you to be much less of a person than you probably are. I don’t care what religion a person is when they are doing me a disservice. It’s irrelevant. I just want to know where they live. And for all the claims made about “Jews”, I never see any links to credible sources of the information. Spouting and spreading hate injures us all; including yourself.
September 19th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Coming from him, I can tell that he believes what he’s saying… It’s unbelievable that I’m living in these times, and yet refreshing.
I think we’re going to see some incredible epic things happen during our life times. I just hope the good guys win this time.
September 19th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Comment #103
Thank you Thank you
I finally hear some Logic on these post’s
I enjoy coming to this web-site but at the same time people who post these silly comments about Jesus and prophecies really discredits everything! Keep your faith to your self
If anything Jesus was a Anarchist! ha
But my only complaint with your post is whats wrong with Art History? I have studied art for many years and what people dont realize about art history is that its very informative about human history in general;
Only the Rich could afford art back in the middle ages … That is why in those times the church\Empire’s were the ones with the artist painting there propaganda (for a small commission to live) to fool the peasant’s into doing what they wanted… And looked how great it worked people still believe Jesus was a blue eye light skinned European …. Not until the French Revolution did artist really where able to go back to there roots and start painting what they saw in there societies struggle/oppression /pain/ love aka expression…… Its funny now a days its not churches and empires who are paying the artist but the Corporation’s are having artist spread there propaganda of consumption (google film “Century of Self” to fully understand)
But otherwise thank you comment 103 for your logic & reasoning
September 19th, 2008 at 10:44 am
The news media and the republican candidates during the primary debates all made fun of Ron Paul when he talked about the danger of the federal reserve and how we were poised for an economic collapse. Now they pretend Ron Paul and others never sounded these warnings.
Call ALL the propaganda talk radio shows and get the word out about Ron Paul’s warnings about these events. FLOOD the corporate/government propaganda talk radio stations around the nation with demands for truth. Pretend you are an idiot with an idiotic opinion to the call screeners, then when you get on the air, read from a short pre-prepared 2 or 3 sentence truth blitz about the federal reserve or Ron Paul’s predicitons. Don’t listen to the host. Don’t get drawn into fake discussion. Just get the info out.
-badwolf
September 19th, 2008 at 10:51 am
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September 19th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Could this be the preparations of some obscure secret government to allow the rise of the Amero?
September 19th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Pedro, I do believe you are correct! It’s only a matter of time now before the Neo Cons come out for that press conference to say they have found an answer to the Economic problems and it’s the AMERO!!!!! WOOOOHOOOO! f---ing assholes! May they all rot in HELL!!!!
September 19th, 2008 at 11:18 am
VOTE THIRD PARTY!!!!!
September 19th, 2008 at 11:20 am
meanwhile sky news is bragging about tent cities in the US http://news.sky.com/skynews/Ho.....e_Homeless
September 19th, 2008 at 11:25 am
This so-called plan of Paulson is equivalent to the Patriot Act. I don’t think this plan has been hastily put together, just as the Patriot Act wasn’t. 9/11 equivalent is the financial meltdown of recent weeks, which, coincidentally, started around September 11.
If many hedge fund managers are to be trusted, they all say they weren’t doing naked short selling. They say they have had no problem borrowing shares to short. So WHO WAS actually doing the naked short sale, and on whose orders? The massive scale of naked short selling only indicates it was done by very large institutions, not hedge funds.
Create fear and panic, and voila the solution to restrict freedom in exchange for security (in this case, literally, security). Sound familiar now?
September 19th, 2008 at 11:33 am
#103 says maybe you should have studied harder and then you would be smart and successful like the Jews. They always try to deflect from the crimes of these people by trying to belittle those who are calling a spade a spade–and implying that such people are ignorant and incestuous–look at his post again and you will see this (knocking up your cousin?).
When some devils are educated, they just become better educated devils. Instead of stealing an apple, they figure out ways to divert the whole train load of them. There is nothing honest about this present debacle–it is planned, it is contrived, it is criminal. If you look at the names behind most of it, they are JEWISH. This cannot be denied. #103 says, “good for them.” They pursue success. Well, if I have to destroy my country in order to get it, I don’t want that kind of success. But then, again, most of these people are not loyal to this country. They are globalist–they are “Israel” first people–they want to rule the whole world from Israel. Therefore, do not ask me to leave religion out of this. These people think they have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to rule the goyim–and they can do as they please by hook or crook.
This is not new. It has been going on for a long time. I would challenge you to listen to Benjamin Freedman’s speech of 1961, available at youtube at the link below. He was converted to Christianity and spent a fortune speaking of the Zionists and their manipulations during World Wars I & II. He knew because he was there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
The sound is a little difficult since the speech was recorded in 1961. However, it is well worth the listen. I would also recommend the Money Masters and the Creature from Jekyl Island. Do not let these people like #103 deflect you, intimidate you or otherwise prevent you from calling things the way you see them. While not all Jews are a part of this conspiracy, no one is accusing the every-day, working hard ordinary Jew. However, when they enter with the elite banksters and set about destroying this country, we should not hold back anything to expose them for what they are.
September 19th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
103
What you are suggesting, still involves the destruction of the American Dream. If i want to be an art major, then I should follow my dreams. If I want to NOT take an internship at chase-manhattan, then I’d rather die happy than knowing i wasted my life doing something I didn’t want to do. You are too attached to money. Socially, it is accepted that money is happiness while they bite their lip and pinch their index saying ‘you dont need money to be happy’
Grow up.
Yeah, I agree, I hear nothing besides the fact that ‘Jews are to blame’, however, we have names. We have lists of names of who is to blame. Can we stop arguing on whether or not jews did it, or jews didnt do it. The names are not changing on either side, just the religion.
September 19th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Thanks Alex, Hello All….
Its good to see I am not alone with some of the thoughts that I have. I agree with people like #103, and at the same time respect opinions like #115. Generally, I think we are all on the same page, we all don’t want to leave a mess for our children to deal with, when we can just step up and deal with the problem today. With the banks being bought out, it is in preparation for the North American Union (Google it or YouTube), which will bring the Amero (Google\YouTube). We will combine our economies with Canada (Natural Resources) and Mexico (Labor), and will follow suit with Europe (EURO). South America will also be included in this (NAU), as will Africa, and Asia. Our ways of day to day spending have been made “convenient” so everything is “easier” for us, we have credit cards, atm’s, the ability to pay on line, social security numbers, and drivers license. All records… When the RFID (Google or YouTube) come, and they will come we will be forced to conform to this new system… some of us will fight back, and will go to the FEMA concentration camps (Google, YouTube “FEMA COFFINS”), some of us, have been conditioned via religion, to not take the mark of the beast, and just accept death, because Heaven will be so much better for us…. I feel that’s just another form of conformity to get us not to fight back, not to stick up for ourselves. Then their will be the ones (Majority) that do follow, and allow themselves to be slaves. Of course there will be the few, that survive all of this mess, and try to fight within the system… but as history has taught us, anytime you have an oppressor, who uses force, the oppressor is always over thrown…. the NWO has learned from these past mistakes, and will now control us economically.
Some good authors to read on…
Not in any order:
Carroll Quigley
Felix Frankfurter
Ron Paul
US House of Rep. Louis Thomas McFadden
Congressman Larry McDonald
Buy some Ammo, grow your own crops, invest in a type of water purifier, and get PLENTY OF WOOD!
Hopefully I wont have to rob your families… to feed mine ;P
September 19th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Uniting the Third Party Movement
http://www.thirdpartyticket.com/
September 19th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Jess (coment #86)/Stewart Howe (comment #90)/(and will add in a few others here),
Jess and Stewart, thank you first off for acknowledging what I said and second off for responding politely. If you read what other comments afterwards are saying, it seems that my comment started a few added viewpoints. Fortunately all of them have been well put together also and were said in a nice way. It seems that we are looking at things in a more idealistic way than what is, but we all should know that a word, a term, or phrase does make a difference in one’s interpretation of something. It is a shame, as I see in the responses to Verbal’s comment #103, that people have a tendency of nitpicking on just a word or term though. What people need to do is take the whole statement in its context, although what I was saying or what we are saying is that way in this case, the word or term being used is actually directing the meaning to be the context or main issues as far as the others are concerned.
I do not know what more to say. Since I see that you, Stewart, are involved with a “We Are Change” organization, it appears that you are going about it the proper way and just staying to the main issue when you are doing what you do when on the job. Obviously if that issue brings about change and that change brings out some definitive information as what many others are saying here, that would eventually become the forefront of the information you would be disseminating. At this time, that is not necessary. By “that”, I mean putting the main concern as being a particular race or religion. We need change over incidences that are happening. To get that, we also need to know what has happened to bring about what it is that we want to change. It makes no difference at this time, since we have little time left, to argue as to any factor having more of one type of people versus having less of another type. Maybe not by the numbers, but by the percentage.
Personally, I could give my opinion about the Jews or about the Israelies. I could give my opinion about the Muslims or maybe an Iraq when it was run by the (secular) Muslim Saddam Hussein, but I will not. We have problems, actual issues that must be CHANGED now. The rest become the sub issues or maybe better said as the details of the main issue. It starts a spirialling down to the ad hominem attacks and then nothing really gets changed as we desire, which is funny in a way because what we all desire is the only real common interest that we all have yet these racial and religious comments or thoughts are acting only to do that famous “divide” of us. What a shame.
Take care guys. I enjoy coming here since it is different than what I am familiar with involving public forums. With me outside of here, people come around because they want a particular thing, always comment on that particular thing and always leave happy. If someone gets too far off topic or is excessively rude to the others, they get banned. Coming here for me sure lets me know to study my “audience” alittle bit better because of the diversity of so many.
To all of you….Good day,
Rhonda
September 19th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
call it a meltdown, collapse, implosion, but greed is at the root of it! any way it doesn’t matter to
most people. Because I have family that believes in everything the gov’t does is for the benefit
of the average joe! little do they know? the old saying of feed them candy and tell them lies
carrys alot weight. people would rather hear a lie than the truth and that a sure thing!!!!
September 19th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Those banks are really our banks and when those prison camps open up we are going to be the prisoners.
We “Real American’s” just going to sit back and let our GOV buy out all of our financing and then charge us for it. The government is not a private business, they can buy out our banks. If they do then those banks belong to us and they want to loan us money on top of our having to pay those over takes in taxes. People, now is the time to “JUST SAY NO” we must continue to shop to keep businesses open but we need to start protesting the taxes. Like Right Away.
We pay all sorts of taxes and receive peanuts in return for those invested taxes.
September 19th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
We have always been indentured servants to the Fed and the PRIVATE BANKS that make up the Fed. Is it just a coincidence that the same year (1913) that the Fed took over is also the same year that the 16th ammendment was passed to tax us into eternal servitude? Only a Rush Limbaugh dittohead would buy that as a coincidence. Those idiots will beleive anything though.
Most of America will stay asleep or more tuned in to football or pop culture rather than see what is really happening. Maybe when their beds and big screen TVs are stripped away in the aftermath of this latest crisis will they finally wake up. By then though, the “looters” will be long gone and will have left us holding the bag. America…..It was fun while it lasted. See you in the soup lines. If there is any soup left that is.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Alex go on ebay there is many auctions of prototype of the ameros currency.
go on ebay and search ameros you will see for yourself.
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:45 am
I don’t blame the gov’t for the current problems; i don’t blame corporations for the current problems; i don’t blame the jews, or any other group for the current problems…….I BLAME EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN WHO LET IT HAPPEN. we the people let this happen. when we stopped knowing our rights, questioning the gov’t, and making politicians accountable for their actions. by nature when people get power, they want more…….that is a given and when realized by our founding fathers, so why do you all seem shocked and dismayed by this? I blame every person in america for the s----storm that we are in. now, what are we the people going to do to fix it and keep it from happening again? everyone is bitching and screaming, pointing fingers, but no one is coming up with a viable plan to fix it. even alex jones, for all of his demi-god status people give him has said nothing of solutions. maybe he is just like all the others out there that profit from fear. i think we as americans could learn a great lesson from the japanese. that lesson is “f--- the blame, let’s focus on the solution”. so………….any ideas?
February 13th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Economic collapse may result in civil war. Guns, ammo, food, water, shelter. Organize. Be prepared. 1000 rounds of ammo per person, minimum. When your neighbors realize you are the only one not starving, they will come for your food. You will have to kill them all. Remember the sniper’s creed: one shot one kill. Don’t waste ammo.