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Ron Paul Defends Secession: “Very Much American” (VIDEO)
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Huffington Post
April 22, 2009
Texas Governor Rick Perry may be on the receiving end of some political mockery for his recent endorsement of his home state’s right to secede from the country. But he has the backing of one decidedly anti-establishment Republican from the Lone Star State.
Rep. Ron Paul released a video on Sunday offering support for the principles of secession, calling them “very much American.” And he described Perry’s recent talk about pulling Texas out of the union a discussion worth having.
“We came together voluntarily,” said Paul. “A free society means you can resolve it voluntarily.”
The decidedly libertarian Texas Republican and former presidential candidate is one of the few elected national figures to offer support for the stance taken by his governor. And it’s not unexpected. The tea parties that Paul’s candidacy helped galvanize were the same forum where Perry expressed some of his sentiments.
In his video address, Paul framed talk of secession as a uniquely American right, pulled straight from the same thread as the American Revolution.
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[Perry] really stirred some of the liberal media, where they started screaming about: ‘what is going on here, this is un-American.’ I heard one individual say ‘this is treasonous to even talk about it.’ Well, they don’t know their history very well, because when you think about it… it is very American to talk about secession. That’s how we came in being. Thirteen colonies seceded from the British and established a new country. So secession is a very much American principle. What about all the strong endorsements we have give the past decade or two to all the republics that seceded from the soviet system? We were delighted about it.
“I think it is worth a discussion,” said Paul, later in his four-and-a-half minute long video. “I think people should discuss this. Because right now the American people are sick and tired of it all. And I think the time will come when people will consider it much more seriously, is when the federal government can no longer deliver. That will come when the dollar collapses.”
The real obstacle to any such discussion, in the end, is legal as much as political. The Joint Resolution Annexing Texas to the United States of 1845 allows for Texas to be drawn into five separate states but not secede from the union.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Perry is full of shit. This whole states rights crap that has risen from the bowels of the already corrupt states and their own police state stranglehold on the people, is nothing more than damage control. It’s the states that have been extorting money from the people with their ‘for your own good’ policies, bills and laws. I don’t believe any one state senator, governor, or atty. general coming public about this bullshit abot petitioning the fed gov’t. It all sounds good on paper, but they are doing nothing more than running interference for the feds by playing good cop bad cop. They had the power ALL ALONG to say no to the federal gov’t. Now they want us to believe that they are actually fighting for something. I say bullshit.
The gov’t, at any level, doesn’t do shit. It’s up to the people to tell these so-called lawmakers to shove their fucking laws up their stinking white asses. Oh, there are a handful of do gooders. But they are quickly smothered by the majority…both left and right, it doesn’t matter.
Ron Paul hit it out of the park. But the context in which he speaks, is simply futile. Perry’s comments are a dead giveaway of this so-called motion to tell the feds to fuck off. Perry has told the people to fuck off ever since he’s been in office. And I ain’t falling for it…or none of these other posers claiming states rights. It’s ALL bullshit.
max Reply:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
so this 10th amendment is just a smokescreen ? Great, we as a people and the
Constitution really do have our work cut out for us…
Frank Reply:
April 25th, 2009 at 3:44 am
Thats right, Perry rolls with the Bilderbergers and backed the Nafta Superhighway program through Texas. He’s as america as HoChiMin, or Karl Marx. He’s trying to blend in with us now. lmao
Gary Price Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Texas is more pro USA-FED than any state in the country. Recently CNN stated that Chuck Norris would like to be his “first” President, however they don’t even understand Texas history
as there are a list of Presidents of the Republic of Texas on the web:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....c_of_Texas
CNN do not even do their research properly before presenting the news. I guess the govt.
want people to think that Texas was always part of this unholy union; even many Americans think that America and Mexico had a war to take Texas over and that Texas became a state in 1836, which is absolutely absurd.
75% of Texas recently polled as I understand want more of the same..more FED.
IamAwake86 Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
dRapNOid, in response…..I get your frustration, it real and viable. Even the state governments are riddled with corruption, but that is a result in part of Federal intrusion. I would like to point out that you did say something that was important. “It’s up to the people” and the people have, really due to lack of education dropped the ball. So have the representatives, senators and governors. Many of the laws that you speak of as having a “stranglehold” on the people are there because the Feds have gained to much control and are telling the states what they need to do, on local levels. The states have relinquished local control which is where it belongs. This is where it is most effective. This leads to me your other important point. “Government on any level, doesn’t do shit!”. I agree entirely, especially when it gets to big, to corrupt, and to intrusive. The feds have no business telling your local cities, counties, and towns how to govern. How to spend, how to tax or what services they need to provide. Small government on local levels know whats best for its own people. Wahington beurocracies have no clue what is best for even your own community. The states rights issue, and the fact that so many states have filed motions for the Feds to cease and dissist imeadiately is a huge deal in this fight to restore our country. The states are soverign. All of the states can survive without the feds. They have functioning economies, hard working people, and most importantly they can issue their own currency. This would take the power away from Washington and end the Federal Reserves and IRS’s stranglehold on the people. The 10th ammendment and secession is an important line of defense to tryranny. The federal government is out of control and its up to the people of the states to either change the Feds direction or dissolve the union. Is it going to change things? I don’t know, but the process is in motion. Its a good thing and it gives me faith that we can save are country. Keep in mind, I don’t know if you are a gun owner or not, but the feds are coming for your guns. After the States Rights, they are our last line of defense to protect the republic. Those states rights issues that you think are bullshit will protect your most important personal freedoms. Plans to disolve our constitution and form a North American Union is a reality. We can not allow this. I know you are frustrated but don’t give up. Winston Churchill about WW2 said ” Gentelman, the situation is very grave, but I find it rather inspiring”. And don’t be fooled, the situation is grave. This country has been hijacked by international banking cartels that own Washington and are stealing Americans hard eraned money. Support your states rights issues, call your Congressman, Representatives, and Senators. Get behind constitutional minded candidates. Keep the faith and fight for this great country. Take Care
Mr. Big Reply:
May 5th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Anybody notice the ‘ Up There White Ass’s” comment in dRapNOids post?
Remember SHEEPEOPLE the races will be used against each other so we can’t unite as easly as we might if there wasn’t so much racial tennsion in this Country.
Time for talking is just about over, so make sure you have plenty og goodies stocked up.
Believe what you want…………But history doesn’t lie !!!
Happy Days SHEEPEOPLE :-}
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
What going on here? Wasn’t Gov. Perry being protested by Alex Jones in the movie ENDGAME for attending the 2007 Bilderberg meetings? It was stated that they are setting him up to be a future president. So has Perry converted or what?
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
We could look at the break up of the Soviet Union as a good example of what would happen here in America. The advanced weapon systems staid in the hands of Putin, the NWO guy. Other than the Chechens and lately Georgians there was relativily little killing. People from different cultures and value systems were givin autonomy after many bloodless coups.
April 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
We patriots have our work cut out for us….but we can’t give up….i won’t concede defeat…we MUST prevail…..we must win…..to lose means liberty is dead…without liberty, I cannot see the point of this crazy thing called life….we must soldier on, we will fight, if we must, for liberty, for no struggle is more noble than the fight for freedom
Wez the Aussie Reply:
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Great post !! NEVER give up !!
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
A true patriot defends the constitution against all enemies foreign and D O M E S T I C!!!!!!!! GO FOR IT TEXAS. Iam in from the volunteer state lets recreate the alamo. From a decedent of DAVID CROCKETT!
April 24th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Ohh I guess TX will feel the Wrath of Obama
April 24th, 2009 at 5:59 am
censored post calling out ron paul logically–
so gotta do it in the only language the stupid clinton/alex jones lobby understands
FUCK RON PAUL!!
easy enuff for ya—since it sounds more like a ‘right wing extremist’??
idiots
April 24th, 2009 at 6:32 am
censored 3 times for not cooperating with the psyop
April 24th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
H.R. 1207 is feel-good legislation; it makes Congress “look good” while nothing real, i.e. dangerous to the power structure, is accomplished. Who thinks so? G. Edward Griffin, the Author of “The Creature from Jekyll Island.”
Surprised that the good doctor would push this legislation over HR833, which would actually accomplish the vital task of ending the Federal Reserve?
Then maybe NOW you understand why so many here doubt Ron Paul’s sincerity.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
“Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its
association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate
pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which
the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their
exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and
pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as
we do persons infected with disease.” –Thomas Jefferson to William H.
Crawford, 1816. ME 15:28
April 24th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Ron Paul is a AMA Yankee living in Dixe. I do not trust Ron Paul. I do like some of what he says but I think he is the Pied Piper. I also think many other people are false leaders too. Look at the resumes of all the people Alex is close with. The masons are all over the place. AMA is the largest masonic union and Ron Paul is a member.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Secession is a real possibility for the state of Texas. We have the, what, 11th largest economy in the world? Or there about. If someone were able to set up a plan that could sustain the basic infrustructure of our state without any money from the federal government we could achieve an independent state.
The problem with our current govt. is that it is run by people from states that they have bankrupted, ie. california. If the federal govt would look to states that are run with some fiscal responsibilty and get out of the business of taking care of the irresponsible, then we would not have the mess we are in today.
We are given the right to the pursuit of happiness, but you have to pursue it not think it will be given to you.
Stop taking from the producers to give to the non-producers. It never works!
April 25th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Talking fiscal responsibility ? If my history serves me right it that is how Scotland was defeated. Today you would call it economic hitmen. A close friend whose family owns five banks in Ohio decided to move to the south and bought a bunch of property ( where I live ). She admits approx. 80 % of the money in her parents 5 branch banks in Ohio is counterfit, can not distinguish the real dollars from the fake, but she owns millions in property now ( carpet bagging ? ). On my last trip to Texas I met mostly Yankees ( Houston ) living there, many sent there from northern states. You know I never really gave it much thought until the population around me became 90 % yankee. Resources are a nations greatest wealth and then comes people. Though laws they have divested the people from what truly belongs to them, resources.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am
ron paul has little interest (or nothing at all) of knowing who killed 3000 american citizens….why?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:27 am
I give up, why Jerry ? You tell us what you think.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:59 am
start the revolution! ignore the trolls,go underground,the time is near.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I really admire Dr. Paul but this time he’s not giving the correct approach about the issue of secession. If taking the matter in the context he exposed, is as simple as giving the enemy the best tool use ever to win any battle, “Divide and Conquer”. Is united how we get our strength and united we should remain. There are other means to get rid off those who want to slave us, but this is not the way. Remember America, the power of the One, one with God is the majority and that’s how will win, with Divine assistance. God bless America!!!!
April 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Instead pg posting here, we could be posting links to other sites, expecially on non political blogs to wake up more sheeple.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Instead of posting here, we could be posting links to other sites, expecially on non political blogs to wake up more sheeple.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Right Wing Extremists ? Radical Revolutionary Libertarian Patriots ? Domestic Terrorists ? It seems most comments left here are from the NWO supproters ! And evidently most of you here are so un-educated in the facts, it’s hardly worth leaving a response. But since most of you have a better idea, go ahead with your CHANGE tactics and business as usual thinking ! That’s just what the idiots in Washington want you to think and say.
Seems most of the “Sheeple” that are referred to here, are all ready here. Ron Paul is my President as far as I’m concerned, and has more of the better ideas I’ve heard come out of any politician’s mouth than what you stand behind.
Might as well have the blind leading the blind ~
April 27th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
that’s it
the
unincorporated
rachel
marion county
West Virginia
has
just
seceded
fuck the rest
April 28th, 2009 at 6:13 am
“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government . . . The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms…”
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #28.
http://gunshowonthenet.com/Fed.....dNo28.html
April 28th, 2009 at 6:24 am
ron paul is one of them…. so is alex jones…. instead of being brainwashed by the normal media…. everyone is bein brainwashed by alex jones…. all this shits besides the point… not even worth mentioning… texas can get outta the union…. prob the only state that can make it on its own….. but does anyone think the fed is just gonna sit there and wave texas goodbye and wish it goodluck….. lmao…. it wont happen…..
SickOfStupidPeople Reply:
April 30th, 2009 at 8:21 am
I agree with your statement that Texas could make it on it’s own
Texas rocks and we have more pride and love for our state then any other…However we are the largest money maker for this country being the largest state. They will NEVER let us go were stuck all of us stuck in the way we have LET our leaders take over our rights. We allowed 9-11 to allow the government to take control 100% there plan worked and all of this is besides the point. Why don’t we all just focus on being real and honest and quite trying to convince everyone to believe what we think. America is built on the fact that we are all different and are albe to practice what we each believe in not have to follow others…. Wake up peole and pull your head out of your A@$…
What happned to love-peace-harmony take a look in the mirror and chill the F&*$ out….
April 28th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Perry is a complete Hack for the Elites. His latest outburst is nothing more than an attempt at remaining governor. Its a ruse, a con, its the typical type of hyperbole that politicians use to garner support. — Perry’s actions speak volumes! And his words are only a way for me to understand how big of a CON he really is. Perry believes in BIG government, BIG power for the elites, BIG control over the populace, BIG and heavy tax burdens, and overall subjugation of the masses. —- If he actually believed what he is portraying himself to be — state government would have shrunk by volumes, power would be put back into the hands of local jurisdictions, and I wouldn’t have to be concerned about his sneaky end run around the opposition of the NAFTA super highway.
TMike
April 28th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
If we were to tell Quebec sepratists that it’s ‘very american to seceede” they’d never seprerate. LOL
April 29th, 2009 at 2:44 am
Go Quebec Go!!! Go Texas Go!!! How on earth can we ever trust politicians again? The man or woman who bravely comes out and says straight up they are aware what the greedy bastards are propagating and he or she is willing to risk death to help bring peace and freedom by exposing the atrocities currently being waged on the population. How else can this ever be achieved if not by a new sovereign state. We need someone to stand up and tell them: “Sorry Big Pharm, sorry Wall Street, sorry FDA, sorry War Machine, sorry Media Machine… the rules of the game have changed and you are not invited to play…” We need someone to expose the ruthlessness of the ways, like the fluoride deception, the health care fraud, the judicial deception…and the list goes on and on.. Sounds like a leader to me!
April 29th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Perry will get everyone in Texas killed. Premendataed Murder if any governor doesn’t arm his citizenery. Every state has borrowing ability to give money to private contractors who are buddies with politians, It is so simple people Governors care only about NWO and the plan is to cause Choas in America where there is no leadership, but Fed will go around pushing people around just like in Iraq.
April 29th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I saw the video about the 10-in-one vitamin thing on this web site. I am ordering it because its on Alex Jones site and it sounds good. Has anyone been taking it? Any feed back on it. I ordered it cause it said if your not satisfied you can return the empty bottle and get your money back. I know i don’t get the vitamins i need everyday and i will take a shot every morning of that stuff if it gives me what i need 20 bucks a day. Not much for good health. Any feed back would be helpful, is it really worth buying and taking everyday?
April 30th, 2009 at 8:30 am
This will just lead to the us being split up into 5/6 sections thats ruled by the un/nato.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
May 4th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
- From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970.
- From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
- From 1975 to 1977, one million “educated” people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938.
- From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935.
- From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
May 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I’m really starting to think Ron Paul is a shill. The globalists or whatever you call them want to break this country up and hes playing right into this. I hope Alex will bring this up I’ll problably call him soon.