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Ron Paul: Government Is A Failure
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Texas Congressman Ron Paul, founder of the advocacy group Campaign for Liberty, spoke on a number of issues yesterday including the growing opposition to socialized healthcare, the threat of martial law, his ongoing effort to audit the Federal Reserve and the prospect of running for president in 2012.
Below are the highlights of the Congressman’s comments followed by video of the full interview.
Ron Paul on the Obama administration’s healthcare proposals:
“It is nationalized healthcare, this pretence that it isn’t completely just means that there is some transition involved. Their goal is to have one party payer, which means that they control everything. And there’s a lot of other bad things in too like this effort to consult with anybody who’s over a certain age and talk to them about end of life type of procedures.”
“This bill is just such an outrage, the American people see it for what it is, it’s going to cost a lot of money, their care is not going to be improved, and special interests will be served.”
Ron Paul on the spate of protests at town hall meets:
“I don’t remember seeing the people so angry as they are now, but I think what they have discovered is that the government is a failure… I think a lot of people have come to the realisation that you can’t trust government.”
“That’s a healthy start. It is our job now to fill the void and tell them what the role of government ought to be, so that we can take all this energy and anger and redirect it.”
Ron Paul on government use of fear tactics:
“Up until now they have been able to use fear as their best tactic, and whether it’s on foreign policy issues or domestic policy issues, that’s how that first TARP fund went through… If things get worse, they’ll say this is more reason than ever for the government to take over and of course we still have the threat of martial law coming in because they havn’t forgotten about that and I don’t think they’d hesitate to use it.”
“It’s pure propaganda to get us involved overseas, it’s war propaganda saying someone is going to attack us with a nuclear weapon if we don’t go in and invade other countries. The same way you domestically scare people.”
“When you hear these stories about the use of force and the use of martial law and the tremendous invasion of our privacy, that to me is scary, nothing is private anymore, everything in the government is secret and your privacy is non existent, that is where the real problem is, we need to reverse that sentiment.”
Ron Paul on talk of mandatory swine flu inoculations:
“I don’t like the mass treatment of people, it’s just bad medicine. That doesn’t mean I have an attitude that inoculations are never good, matter of fact I think polio was truly eradicated by inoculations, well a small part. But the question is should government be making massive decisions, when in the Constitution there is not supposed to be any government involvement at all.”
Ron Paul on the effort to audit the Federal Reserve:
“We worry about how much pressure and how much authority the Fed has, but because we’ve done our grassroots work, we’ve gotten the large majority of members of Congress to support our auditing bill. And that didn’t come from me persuading the Congressman, that came from exactly what is going on at these town hall meetings, people being upset. In this way I think we are harnessing the energy in the correct way.”
“Once we hit the 290 cosponsors, which means we’ll have two thirds vote, or the 300, right in that area, I think that’s the time I’m going to really start putting pressure on the leadership to bring this up. So far they’re indicating that they are going to bring the bill up in a mixture of other bills, but they might get bogged down, so I think after we go back you may be hearing some announcements on where we want to direct our energies because we have such great momentum on that issue.”
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
“It’s a little bit more than Bernanke shaking hands with somebody… it’s the immorality of the system, the violation of the Constitution, the idea that you can print money, the idea that gold is evil, and that deficits don’t matter. It’s a philosophical argument that is so crucial, and we’ve suffered from it.”
“I think eventually they are going to use national security as an excuse to keep the books closed. A lot of times what the CIA does is use national security… because they do use funds to get involved in foreign affairs, because they can make deals with other governments, other central banks, other international financial organisations, and that’s the kind of stuff they don’t want us to know about.”
Ron Paul on the future of the economy and false optimism:
“There is a limit to how long they can fool the people, if you’ve been out of work and you don’t have enough money to feed your kids, and you listen to this you just don’t buy into this stuff. I’ve always argued that the people are always ten to fifteen years ahead of Congress.”
“There will be a time when the psychology changes, when it turns into a rout, and that’s what they can’t control. But I don’t think there will be a bank holiday, that will help cause panic… they’re not going to close the banks, they’re going to keep the presses running. They don’t default by not paying the bills… if they can inflate by 50% they’ve just defaulted on half of the debt.”
Ron Paul on Obama’s plummeting ratings:
“I don’t think he’ll be reelected but it’s way way to early to know that for sure, his circumstances are much more difficult. I often thought early on whether he would be like Roosevelt and never get blamed for anything… but I think Obama is going to receive some of the blame and rightfully so.”
Ron Paul on running for president in 2012:
“In which country?!!”
“I have no plans for that, I wouldn’t be able to make a decision on that today, it’s such a long way off.”
Watch the full interview below:
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August 6th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I know and they are terrorists too…
Dogfood Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ECLxK2YTs
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Some Guy Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Hey guys. i need some help somewhere if anyone is interested. There is this site, called
http://www.tvally.com/index.php and they are attacking infowarriors like crazy. its a forum, but these people need to be informed. dont attack them, get the information, and have a logical conversation with them. they are banning people for believing certain things, so be ware. just go to the politics threads, and talk with the crazy liberal nutjobs there. these people are way out there with an Obama love affair, so get ready.
They are also attacking Ron Paul. just do what you can do. inform the people, instead of arguing with each other.
Thanks, get as many people there as possible.
Desslok Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Liberal Obama lovers hate rational debate. They attempt to sound intellectual while making some of the dumbest statements ever made. And when you prove them wrong, they just get all huffy and puffy and won’t admit the errors in their logic. They don’t want the truth and couldn’t handle it anyway. I know, my sister is a lib. Going to that site requires registration to post. It’s a waste of time.
Arguing with a lib is like eating chalk. It is pointless and leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
k Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
All extremists hate debate its not just liberals.
This American Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Absolutely K, I have tried to talk to some so called “conservatives” (in name only) too from a non-partisan viewpoint, knowing how BOTH sides are simply left and right hand puppets for people much higher up the food chain, and all many can do is parrot EXACTLY the state-run media mantras from the six or so people that run the MSM propaganda Machine. They often are simply FAUX on CNN “NUZ” regurgitators with no real ability to view things from a more “fair and balanced” perspective. No Spin Zone….Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhaha right!!!
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:25 am
Not to mention the most perplexing and incorrigible mindset that spouting off expletives and mockery somehow refutes the point one makes.
Alas there are too many on both “sides” that are simply unwilling to learn- not because they *can* not but that they *will* not.
“Truly it is an evil to be full of faults; but it is a still greater evil to be full of them and to be unwilling to recognize them, since that is to add the further fault of a voluntary illusion.”
-Blaise Pascal
Darn It! Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Oh hell yeah!!!! It’s time for the real blue collar Americans to stand up against the yuppie toe sucking Republican high society snobs that worship the health insurance industry. That’s right!!!!!!! Two can play at this game.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....52720.html
‘Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls’
“The nation’s largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess.”
Susan Sir Andon Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
You’ve got it all wrong. Huffington post…PLEASE. Go back to bending Obama over. He loves it from what I hear.
stinkypinky Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Soul-Pole in DA’ HOLE…WUT, WUT?
jim from FL Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Good info is better than pizza coupon or Chinese menu…tuck your fliers under their windshield wipers…GO, GO, GO….
jt Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
This is one liberal who never considered voting for Obama, and saw thorugh him from DAY ONE.
Now see this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKj6uJ5Mt4
WhineFlu Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
WOW, you weren’t kidding, that place is hell lol. 1 post and they gave me a warning. Apparently you can swear and say anything you want, as long as you don’t critisize anyone with a liberal perspective. Please somebody go read my response on the Obama poster thread there and tell me if thats grounds for a warning!
WhineFlu Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:05 am
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDDD Banned lol those tvally.com people truly, are the most retarded people on the planet. Pwned at every turn but apparently rationality and truth are insulting to them so, alas, they banned me for insulting someone that was asking (quite literally and on purpose) to be insulted.
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:52 am
Sites that that are safe haven for them to pat each other on the back and proclaim how wise they are compared to those that have the audacity to disagree with them.
And if anyone does threaten their utopian bubble of denial with the sharp sword of truth, they will come at you on all angles with all sorts of nonsense in the hope that you will given them a reason-any reason- to ban you.
Not unlike trying to have a civil and rational discussion on an “atheist” forum. There are the odd one or two but since one is wading through a virtual miasma of filth, it really is a waste of time.
Anonymous Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Bob Dylan: Ballad of a Thin Man (1965)
You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, “Who is that man?”
You try so hard
But you don’t understand
Just what you’ll say
When you get home
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You raise up your head
And you ask, “Is this where it is?”
And somebody points to you and says
“It’s his”
And you say, “What’s mine?”
And somebody else says, “Where what is?”
And you say, “Oh my God
Am I here all alone?”
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, “How does it feel
To be such a freak?”
And you say, “Impossible”
As he hands you a bone
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You have many contacts
Among the lumberjacks
To get you facts
When someone attacks your imagination
But nobody has any respect
Anyway they already expect you
To just give a check
To tax-deductible charity organizations
You’ve been with the professors
And they’ve all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks
You’ve been through all of
F. Scott Fitzgerald’s books
You’re very well read
It’s well known
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you
And then he kneels
He crosses himself
And then he clicks his high heels
And without further notice
He asks you how it feels
And he says, “Here is your throat back
Thanks for the loan”
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word “NOW”
And you say, “For what reason?”
And he says, “How?”
And you say, “What does this mean?”
And he screams back, “You’re a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home”
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin’ around
You should be made
To wear earphones
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Mr. Jones doesn’t know WHAT THE f--- is happening! The New World Order he speaks of only exists in his head. He, and you that listen to him do NOT know the Illuminati!
Annuit cœptis!
Novus Ordo Mundi!
Novus Ordo Seclorum!
[CENSORED!] Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:39 am
I sympathise -my experience was to make a few posts in an Irish politics forum about the Lisbon Treaty. 3-4 people there, who are all moderators, are maintaining a repetitive string of arguments for a yes vote. Anyone who comes into the debate presenting arguments for a no vote are immediately attacked and ridiculed by the various moderators…. and are then banned. No vote threads are quickly locked -especially if the no vote arguments start to look too persuasive.
I was banned and I would not consider myself a hardline “infowarrior”, mostly I go with the arguments of People like Chomsky, or Edward Said. But I quickly noticed that even those kinds of positions are dismissed. In short, the problem is a small number of people who seem to reflexively defend the “establishment” perspective.
So, in anyone thinks the European Union is a bad idea, make a few posts at:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin.....php?f=1069
and see how quickly you get banned!
One final thing, I noticed a lot of people discussing the “Obama Deception” in the same forum and they were impressed by what Gerald Celenta had to say, or by the fact that he was in it at all. Alex Jones should make more films. I wish he would make one about the Lisbon Treaty. Whatever you say about him, he does make quite good documentaries.
Gary Head Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:25 am
I do not trust Ron Paul. Though his fans defend him, everytime I hear him speak or read his words, I am made dizzy by his mind control. Take this as a mind control assault.
“I think eventually they are going to use national security as an excuse to keep the books closed. A lot of times what the CIA does is use national security… because they do use funds to get involved in foreign affairs, because they can make deals with other governments, other central banks, other international financial organisations, and that’s the kind of stuff they don’t want us to know about.”
Does that make you dizzy?
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:22 am
Not really, I’m sure that you can throw in narcotics, torture, contract murder and a bunch of other stuff as well, rico fed style.
Half-Grand Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:05 am
I have seen videos were Ron Paul was doing freemason handshakes with a talk show host.
I wan’t awnsers as to weither Ron Paul is a freemason sleeper agent who is on the New World Orders side!!!!
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:39 am
Alex works hard, does a lot of valuable research and I’ve learned a lot from him. But I don’t agree with what his version of what the “nwo” is. In my opinion the real nwo is centered not with the plutocracy, but with the incumbency, supported by their electorate. Their goal is the proliferation of democratic fascism to achieve US global hegenomy through perpetual war, economic subversion, forced “democratization” and military and economic conquest. Which the plutocracy wants to exploit and control as much as possible. With a Washington controlled, defacto, one world government that eliminates the competition.
dontpickit Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
I want FREEDOM not Liberty. Liberty is what you get when you are on leave from the military. Its either granted or its not. Liberty can be taken away. FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM.
http://www.larouchepac.com
Sar4Life Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
word
But you forgot to add that you are only granted ‘liberty’ when you’ve been behaving IAW SOP.
That would be ‘In Accordance With Standard Operating Procedures’.
Censored31 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Go and found out how to protect yourself and your family against the upcoming “swine flu”:
http://censored31.skynetblogs.be
Daniel Faraday Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Good advice. You’ve got about 7 weeks to prepare.
censored31 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
At least most of you will maybe not suffer too much…not as those palestinians.
darn it!! Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Yup, these protesting phonies are literally being bussed in from other states and districts to fight against the interests of the average American just as they did in 2000 during the infamous recount. This is a total fabrication. A total corporate sell-out. Organized by Michelle Malkin and others at Recess Rally.
Fake protesters exposed!
Oh yeah….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruYZN_Z0B7E
That’s right….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5L4dXl4fns
Haggis Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Interest of the average American citizen my ass!
Only if you want to zig heil to Obama! and his Union Thugs (brownshirts).
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:22 am
DarnIt:
No one is busing me or encouraging me to go anywhere. I have called my legislators to see if I have any town hall meetings I can show up at to voice my displeasure. Yeah, my rage is manufactured by our government. Maybe, they just can’t admit that people really are enraged rightfully so and they are starting to show it all on their own and they really rightfully so do not want any part of these policies.
Demonize the dissenters. An old government tactic.
Solomon was right – There is nothing new under the sun.
Same ol song and dance my friend.
August 6th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
ron paul 2009!!
Dogfood Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
########## THE FED STOLE THE MONEY! ############
########## THE FED STOLE THE MONEY! ############
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ
########## THE FED STOLE THE MONEY! ############
########## THE FED STOLE THE MONEY! ############
Censored31 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
And Goldman Sachs changed his name in Gold in Sacks
Dogfood Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
########## GOLDMAN SACHS: EXPOSED! ##########
########## GOLDMAN SACHS: EXPOSED! ##########
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSwWy4E6I04
########## GOLDMAN SACHS: EXPOSED! ##########
########## GOLDMAN SACHS: EXPOSED! ##########
Darn it! Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
http://blog.buzzflash.com/honors/204
GOP Hypocrite of the Week Rep. Mike Pence Thinks Government-Run Healthcare is Evil, But Voted to Support Medicare
Sar4Life Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
and?
August 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Come on Ron, what about 911?
http://www.wrothchild.blogspot.com
one small voice Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
there is such a thing as diplomacy and the right sense of timing.
Censored31 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
He is already enough on his shoulders…that’s up to you guys…
Censored31 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
he has…
k Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Ron wants to stay alive along as possible. He even knows where to draw the line just out of survival.
Overlordhunter Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:15 am
K,My sentiments exactly!
the dog that bites Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
ron paul has enough on his plate,we will try the 911 insiders when we stop the NWO.
August 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
who could argue that?
Dogfood Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
######## MARCY KAPTUR BUSTS THE FED ########
######## MARCY KAPTUR BUSTS THE FED ########
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luf4mt3hT88
######## MARCY KAPTUR BUSTS THE FED ########
######## MARCY KAPTUR BUSTS THE FED ########
Desslok Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I think Paul is a good guy and all. Heck, maybe he’s even right to think things can still be resolved peacefully. I have serious doubts. In my opinion, restoration of constitutional rights will require a full-blown civil war.
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Or a very high unemployment rate.
Sar4Life Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
one can easily lead to the other.
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Removing the war criminal incumbents from the legislature and replacing them with decent people who’ll do a good job is the way to avoid violence and create a better future. Unfortunately I don’t think this will happen until the unemployment rate gets to the point where enough people lose the status quo good life and would rather have peace, prosperity and good goverment rather than perpetual war, economic subversion and bad government because their life sucks now and they don’t like being on the receiving end of what they’ve been dishing out.
August 6th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Jones and Paul are right. We the Founding Fathers made a huge mistake in forming this country in the fashion that we did. Government is bad. We would have placed health insurance companies in charge of the people but they didn’t exist at the time.
c4d4 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
HEY KIDS, DRUGS R BAD, U SHOULDNT DO DRUGS, MKAY, IF U DO THEM, UR BAD, CUZ DRUGS R BAD, MKAY, IS A BAD THING TO DO DRUGS, SO DONT BE BAD, BY DOIN DRUGS
Sar4Life Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
mkay
Ansel1776 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Government is not bad.
Bad government, and more accurately, pathological government is bad.
joe Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:32 am
…bad government is bad? when will you be writing your next textbook, professor?
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Perhaps english isn’t Ansel’s first language?
Desslok Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
All of you who place the blame on private health insurance providers are completely missing the bigger source of rising health care costs. It’s got a lot less to do with health insurance greed than it does with the FDA. Health care costs are rising because the government has decided to dictate the most minute details of how health care suppliers and manufacturers run their day to day business.
Sure, there’s some corporate greed out there. But as someone with intimite knowledge of the healthcare industry, the bulk of the cost is directly caused by FDA regulations.
Darn it! Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Yeah and who do you think runs the FDA now thanks to Bush? Former corporate lawyers who used to represent these very special interests.
Darn it! Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
“Sure, there’s some corporate greed out there. But as someone with intimite knowledge of the healthcare industry, the bulk of the cost is directly caused by FDA regulations.”
Why is government so corrupt? Because Republicans and Libertarians made it that way by always catering to corporate special interests.
FDA Under Bush
http://www.oregonindependent.com/node/148
“Instead of strengthening the government’s regulatory systems, the Bush administration has spent years cutting budgets and filling top jobs with industry favorites. The evidence of their failures keep mounting”
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am
DarnIt:
You think the democrats are innocent in government corruption?
Which planet are you living on?
None of the major parties are innocent, they are all corrupt that is why the situation is in perpetual motion. You get one party out and the next party comes in and does basically the same thing.
This, this type of thinking is the problem. This is it in a nutshell.
Neither party really takes on the multi internationals or the military industrial complex or the gansta banksters. The system needs to be deconstructed, I personally do not know if that is possible. No excuses for corruption they need to go and I do not care which party they are from or even if they are from Mar’s, Pluto, Uranus, Jupiter ect. I don’t expect to see it happen, still it would be the only way to salvage what we have left.
Liza Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Excuse me…but you need to remember that this DEMOCRATIC administration has the absolute HIGHEST number of Wall Street insiders and corporate goons in history! Do your research…
Besides, you are missing the point completely! This is not about PARTY…all of them are terminally infected! This is about the shadow govt, global elite, NWO, banksters, or whatever you like to call the cabal…they exist or control the elites all parties (except Libertarians, IMHO…and I am not a Libertarian!). .
Yes, the pharm. ind., the FDA, corporations, etc. are HUGE problems! But when you lay the blame at the feet of R’s and Libertarians, YOU ARE SOOOOOOOO TEN YEARS AGO!
Liza Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Needing more govt. regulation is for WIMPS! Have you truly been so brainwashed that you think citizens need more govt regs?
It is the govt. who brought us the wonderful things like: Soc. Sec., Medicare, the FED, internment camps. What we need is people who understand the following quote and then vote for people who will not get in bed with the evil oligarchs:
A govt. big enough to give you everything you want is a govt. strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
It isn’t just health care. I’m self employed in trucking with a 100k+ income. There’s a ton of regulation, add all the tax codes on top of it and it’s a huge chore to comply with, way more complicated than it needs to be for safety and profitability.
August 6th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Unfortunately for the minority of americans like myself, who want peace, prosperity and good government. The majority of the electorate don’t, which is why they return war criminal incumbents to office 94% of the time to provide economic subversion, perpetual war and bad government.
c4d4 Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
damn dick, you’re absolutely right!
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Thanks, 1/2 of the solution to correcting a problem is recognising what it is.
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Richard:
When people realize they can vote government money into their pockets, it is the end of the democracy. (paraphrase)
To be honest, most people do not realize the government corruption they are voting in. Simply they are really never told. They really do not realize that the government wants perpetual war. They really don’t and really think Osama is out to kill them and thier children.
Some of it is the sin of apathy.
I guess B. Franklin was right – People deserve the leaders they get.
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I don’t agree, they realize it and do it anyways to maintain the status quo good life, regardless of the crime and corruption and because they’re perpetual war supporters. All you have to do is look at the war polls leading up to any conflict, no matter how bogus, and most voters are for it. I do agree that the incumbency reflects the electorate.
commonsenseusa Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Well, a big part of the reason that incumbents have such a high re-election rate has to do with money. successful candidates spend much more than unsuccessful candidates. That money mostly comes from special interests who, obviously, want their investment to yield a favorable return. if said incumbent does not “repay the favor” that helped get them into office, then they dont get the same money. there are also a number of programs that help incumbents stay in office (such as free mail to constituents). Do away with special interest money and we just might have more honest statesmen instead of the corrupt politicians we have now…support govt money for federal elections.
also, revolutionradio.org is a GREAT site with a lot of good information.
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
The incumbency has no intention of passing term limits or responsible election laws. Because they know that as long as they keep their support electorate fat and happy, bribed with the good life status quo. They know they’ll get back in office and can do as they please.
Change unfortunately needs to be crisis driven with a big flush. Let’s just hope it can be done without another war.
commonsenseusa Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:57 am
absolutely
Liza Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Great point…I have been frustrated by this forever! How can we stop the need of huge piles of cash to get elected? There has got to be some way!
August 6th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I am from Spain so I will not be able to vote for Ron Paul, but I am really looking forward to seeing him win. That would send such an important message to all the other countries. All my support to Ron Paul.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
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August 6th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Joan Wagar A,K,A, Mrs Dash has permission to poison a plasma donor!
Piece of s--- authority’s are the terrorist’s!
August 6th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Epic failure.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Ron Paul is another New World Order fascist innoculator,a Bourgeoise fighting for the Prolateriat
against the Bourgeoise…..in other words, no health care for you or me but Health care for him
and his insurance Company handlers…….maintaining the Fascist status qo as a Revolutionary
what a bunch of suckers LMAO
Dogfood Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Your stupid minds games don’t work anymore.
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BB Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Then you don’t know what the NEW WORLD ORDER is bro, and may i suggest that you read up history before you start saying that, you disinfo agents are always funny. “DO THING THAT WE ARE THAT DUMB!!!!”. You should be scared of what alex and mr paul are saying because all of you traitors wil be going to jail, “AND THAT MEANS YOU”. BRO.
Ludwig von Bunghole Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Maybe you should read up on history. You might start with a libertarian handbook like Ludwig von Mises’ “Omnipotent Government” where he advocates the Marxist policies of open borders, unregulated trade and the withering away of the state. Austrian economics is just another route to feudalism, designed to s--- all over the constitution.
Yes, the Fed should be audited and thieves should be thrown in jail. But the idea that “free minds and free markets” create prosperity is wishful thinking. Your enemy is not government. It’s the drones of the world who will figure out how to get rich on your labor no matter the system. They can use a big government like the Soviet Union, but they can also use a weak one like those in the middle east and Africa. Only a strong, protectionist national government – like the one put in place by Franklin, Hamilton, Lincoln and FDR – can secure prosperity through protecting private enterprise against free trade and by investing in the commonwealth. It’s not perfect, but it’s better than being thrown to the wolves, as Dr. Paul would have it.
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Maybe you should look at what the government is spending money on. Like military and social projects we can’t afford, rather than investing in economic expansion.
Ludwig again Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:40 am
The military is a big one and could be cut back. But the biggest deficit item is debt servicing. The whole idea that social security and medicare/medicaid are bankrupt is based on voodoo bookkeeping and the fact that we pay interest to the Fed to borrow our own money.
My biggest problem with the right is that you all see what the federal reserve is doing, yet when push comes to shove, everything gets blamed on the “greedy” poor and sick. The purpose of having a large nation like the USA is to be self-sufficient in internal trade. This country has all the natural and human resources it needs for widespread prosperity, yet we run a huge trade deficit and turn the economy into a casino. This is not “big government”, it’s your “free market”. When the government is too owned or too weak to base their decisions on moral criteria, you get exported and looted by the international financiers.
If you kicked out the Fed, adopted a constitutional credit system for industrial development, and reinstated tariffs and parity pricing for commodities, you’d solve the problem in 6 months and pay for all these “unsustainable” services (school, libraries, roads, healthcare, retirement security) with tariffs and property tax.
Liza Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I understand what you are saying about free trade…I am seeing it a little differently after lots of reading. BUT…free markets and trade are not inherently evil…it is the few malevolent elites that abuse it for their own power and profit.
On the other hand, you need to do your research on FDR. He was a huge PROGRESSIVE, not a well-intentioned nationalist like our founders. He was controlled by the banksters and globalists also. In addition, I do not think establishing lots of entitlement programs has done ONE SINGLE THING to promote self-sufficiency, a work ethic, or strong character in general. When people can get things for free, then they cease to produce. And unfortunately, money doesn’t grow on trees (except in the FED’s garden!) I do think that global economy has really damaged our country. We simply can’t compete with the cheap labor of China.
I guess my point is this: extreme freedom without virtue doesn’t work, but neither does extreme government control of all lives. The problem is both PEOPLE and POLITICIANS…the people are mindless and lazy, and the politicians are corrupt. A bad combination, wouldn’t you agree?
We all get lost in the minutia of the situation, and our own theories…the reality is that eventually we WILL SEE a one world government. Maybe not in our lifetime, but someday. It’s inevitable. And I don’t say that as a fatalist. I will continue to fight it with all my might, but our world’s problem is a spiritual one.
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
You can pay the governments bills with approximately 20% of the profit of !00% of the economy or with 100% of the profit of 20% of the economy. There are a lot of ways to get there from a design perspective.
The US spends 50% of global military spending with 20% of global gdp to protect 5% of the planets population. You can blame the bankers, right, free marketers, the fed or who ever you want. The problem is we’re spending a ton of money for war, conquest and empire that we don’t have and are borrowing or printing. The same goes for social programs.
We need to balance the budget, stop the global rampage and killing spree and spend money on social programs from revenue, not borrowing or monitization.
The fed is probably unconstitutional and a public central bank is certainly an option. Would the incumbency do a better job with a public central bank? Maybe, the accounting at the pentegon isn’t encouraging.
The plutocracy is only part of the problem, the incumbency and electorate that keep them in office to provide perpetual war and bad government are a huge part of the problem and blame shifting to the plutocracy doesn’t change that.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Ron Paul is a wise man. If he only knew how much better he’s made my life…
Dogfood Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
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August 6th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Idiot, you’re another reason why public schools are a complete failure and disgrace to our society. Also, thank-you for the evidence that fluoride does ruin one’s capacity to think straight.
Anonymous Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Or did you right wingers forget that and use it as a shield to tell others to shut up?
August 6th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Ron Paul, telling the truth and speaking out. If we had real presidents he should be one.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
I’m glad that Ron Paul is taking another shot in the 2012 election. And T-wolf, you better think straight and received Jesus into your heart, because you have been deceived. I’ve been watching VonHelton’s video on Obama’s fake birth certificate and you need to watch it.
RON PAUL 2012
August 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
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August 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
warn the sleepy heads any way…Some will toss their prozac & wake up in time to buy some 50 lb bags of pinto beans & a water filter…Better than nothing…chin up..
August 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Hey ‘.Idiot’: Turn off your televsion set and learn to think for yourself……….
August 6th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
.idiot I agree.Have you seen those bilboards saying,Abortion stops a beating heart? I say it also stops child support!
Mace Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:49 am
True. Child Support: makes poor people pay for not buying condoms.
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Mace:
Child support has one other very attractive quality. It makes the men who created those children economically responsible for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the hell is wrong with you people?
You breed them, you feed them.
I can’t understand people that complain about someone who actually has to be forced into providing for his or her’s own child. The tragic part is, it has come to a point where multitudes of people have to be forced. They are those people’s own children, would you advocate them walking away never being forced to look back. That is the alternative. Not all laws are bad you know, they really aren’t.
If they are poor the child support is nominal anyway.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
f---tard? Did you think of that one all by yourself little boy?
August 6th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Wow bro you are a sad person, do you not realize by saying that you f your own family. You know what you take the vaccine along with your family, but when side effects happen and people die because of it don’t come running back to say these guys were right. Because you deserve everything you get. I feel sorry for your family because you are such a dumb ass and they don’t deserve your karma.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Hey Jesus freak you should pay better attention. The Man said he did’nt have any plans. Doesn’t mean he won’t , but doesn’t give you the okay to celebrate.
August 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
name says it all and then your mouth backs it up. Good job Idiot!
August 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Unfortunately, the U.S. elections are RIGGED and manipulated, and because Ron Paul is a threat to the Federal Reserve monetary system, he unfortunately will not be installed as President because of these realities. The banker-elite control everything in this country and I mean EVERYTHING. Google or YouTube: Clint Curtis. Curtis is a software engineer hired by Rep. Tom Feeney (R) Florida, to write code for electronic voting machines that tip the election 51/49 for whoever you program to win. The software runs hidden as a .dll in the OS and eats itself upon exit, leaving no trace. Your tax dollars at work…….
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
It has a lot more to do with reading bait and switch teleprompter lies and making them sound true.
August 6th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Hey Congressman Paul when you say that government is a failure do you realize that YOU sir are part of it? Hope you do and that your words are true not only when spoken but indeed as well.
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
So is the electorate, a lot of people need to look in the mirror.
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Richard:
You are right, I have looked long and hard in the mirror lately for the world that I am leaving my children. I think we should all be ashamed. I really do love my children above all on earth and I do mean there is no one even a close second except my parents and my great niece. ( who actually won’t talk to me most of the time; still I love her to death)
I am feeling really guilty right now about the America that they will probably inherit.
Still, Jesus does promise to make a way.
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
A minority of americans want peace, prosperity and good government. If your part of that minority and aren’t voting war criminal incumbents back into office then I don’t think you should blame yourself for war mongers and control freaks screwing things up.
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Richard:
I think I was apathetic and should have paid attention sooner. No, I did not even bother to vote this election. What the hell was the point? Corrupt democrat or republican welcome to the show. I really kind of started to look up during Clinton. It was during his presidency I started to realize that something was very wrong. I did not even realize it was this bad.
Most people really don’t realize that the level of corruption or that the war on terror is really a war of conquest. They just really don’t. I think they are beginning to realize something is very wrong; I think they just don’t know exactly what it is or the real depth of the problem.
Richard most of them get the news of the MSM and never really question the reality of it. To a certain extent it is really not their fault. It is a pretty sophisticated game they are running. I think people are starting to catch on, still I really don’t think most of them know how bad the situation really is.
Sometimes I am with a poster named Neo, why the hell didn’t I just take the blue pill? I know the reason why I really love my children and care. Still, feeling a little helpless right now.
We shall see how it really plays out.
As the curse states, may you live in interesting times.
Richard Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 8:42 am
The golden rule isn’t rocket science, people know right from wrong. I’ve only used a computer for a couple of years, and I knew things were really screwed up just from reading the paper. If you vote for someone who tells you they’re pro war and you get unnecessary war, that shouldn’t be much of a surprise. These candidates say they’re prowar to get votes. The polls show that most americans are for unnecessary war. 75% of republicans still support war after 6 and 8 years of it.
A lot of people don’t want to vote for someone they wouldn’t hire for the same job, who can blame them? Sometimes there isn’t a lesser of to evils to vote for so people just don’t vote.
Change is going to be crisis driven, let’s just hope it’s only the overhaul of the legislature from rising unemployment, get ready, because it could be a lot worse.
Checkthefacts Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 9:58 am
You said “The polls show that most americans are for unnecessary war. 75% of republicans still support war after 6 and 8 years of it.”
Are you sure about that sir? Where do you gather your intelligence from may I ask?
Richard Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Yes I’m sure. I’ve been reading the polls for many years in the newspapers and on the tv and internet. Democratic support for the current wars has dropped off as they’ve dragged on. But a majority support a war with Iran and 85% a war with N. Korea. These people are complete idiots. It’s a big part of the reason the US is going down the tubes, you reap what you sow.
JustMe Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 10:03 am
No, the electorate is not part of the govenment in America 2009. That is how the constitution intended it to be but if you are on infowars and heard about Alex Jones teachings you should know that the goverment especially the highest levels of which Congressman Paul is part of, is more like a puppet for the puppeteer ruling elite made up of bilderberg, trilateral commision, CFR, etc
Richard Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 10:43 am
That’s BS and blame shifting. The electorate return the incumbency to office 94% of the time. The incumbency plays the electorate and plutocracy off against each other to continue their ideological perpetual wars of forced democratic fascism.
Checkthefacts Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 11:55 am
The electorate return the incumbency to office 94% of the time
This is what I have to say about your statement. The federal gov has garnished unprecedented power over the state and local levels. Asides from the presidency which is decided by the ELECTORAL COLLEGE all the other positions of goverment besides judges and justices are decided by a majority vote or electorate. The reason the people vote in these criminals to power is because they have a false sense that this particular person will make a difference which is rarely the case. This is not a government of for the people and by the people anymore and if thats what you think you are back in 1787 and not living in 2009
The incumbency plays the electorate and plutocracy off against each other to continue their ideological perpetual wars of forced democratic fascism.
August 6th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Here is a very interesting You Tube video with Ron Paul about the presence of the U.N. and the future of America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ArUoyuDd74
August 6th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Ron Paul Revolution!
August 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Chemtrails are VERY important. What is more important is staying on topic with your posts concerning the articles.
August 6th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Ron Paul 2012!
August 6th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
…because ECT worked so well on you, right? The therapy is overrated.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Oh boyyyy…..
August 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Must be a Bush person
August 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Starting to believe in this guy. Didnt realise I have more in common with Ron Paul than I do in my
old party.Seems to me its not all about him as is with the rest of government.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
the thugs that ran health insurance and multinational drug companies are the ones to blame and for government to allow lobbiests on capital hill.it is all coming to a head,people get your supplies ready,forget your job,lock and load and head for the hills,the NWO is in high gear.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
f--- you alex jones. good job ripping off anonymous. we make an epic poster and you profit off of it. you sir are asking for it. hope you have your lolyers ready cause here we come. you are fair game.
09-02-09
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Your comment is off topic, but I will address it because you are slandering AJ without justification. First off, the images were hung in public without a copyright which makes them public domain. Second, Alex has stated that he is using the image as a way to bring legitimacy to the artist because NWO entities are claiming racism. He believes the message is important and needs a louder voice to bring legitimacy to said message or it can be used as a vessel to continue NWO agenda and smear the movement against it.
Does anyone who wishes to take down AJ have the intellect to express themselves without swearing, hatred and shortsightedness? Also, if it is really your property I dare you to sue AJ and go public with the information, so that the gov’t can indict you on hate crimes against the President. Since I don’t believe it is your property I have a feeling that you will not.
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:15 am
I’m not a lawyer, but to correct myself I think it’s actually libel.
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Libel is the written version of slander.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
A government built on fear and lies is not a good thing for anybody. Does anyone remember why we are in Iraq? Why isn’t anyone going after the past administration? They lied to us, and to congress. Does iraq have any wmds? Treason treason treason treason. We are all in for a big awakening. Buy guns and ammo while u still can. And you can’t come in without a warrant
Curse on Those who Kill for Money Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
This is why we are in IRAQ :
GOOGLE “GREATER ISRAEL”
The Synagogue of Satan has fooled the Evangelical Christians into becoming their warriors for the Antichrist.
“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.” — Anne Coulter
A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine alleges that Prince (founder of Blackwater International) “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe,” and that Prince’s companies “encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life.”
“Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen” (Deuteronomy 27:25).
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/scahill
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Nice try, before the rag heads it was the gooks, nips and whoever the enemy of the day was. Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, 911, it gets a little old after a while doesn’t it?
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Curse, from the research that I have been doing it seems that Zionists are attempting to re-establish Babylon. An area that stretches from the Euphrates to the Nile River. Demolishing Solomans Temple and erecting a new temple to usher in the anti-Christ. I’m certainly not sure of this, but it seems to make a whole lot of sense.
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:31 am
“Zionists” aren’t the problem. look for those who are against Zionism and you’ll be on the right track.
I am not amused Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 10:19 am
The Whyman:
I am a bible believing Christian and I am against Zionism all the way. The biblical references too support it are taken out of context and twisted beyond recognition. There is zero prophetic time clock to Jesus return regarding the State of Israel. They stole and murdered for that land God did not give it back. The Christian’s who support this and lie and misrepresent that damned inhumane situation over there will answer to Jesus. I will say this one nauseating time; stealing, murdering, inhumane treatment, slander is not loving thy neighbor by a long shot. Jesus did not I mean did not need Israel to be an intact sovereign nation for his first coming and he does not need that environment for the second one either. However you think; lying about that situation and misrepresenting it is a sin. There is much in the bible about deceitful tongues.
I am not the problem. I don’t like corruption I do not care who does it. The American Government, The Israeli, The Chinese, The House of Saud, The Mexican or the man in the moon. It is wrong, wrong, wrong.
One thing people can say about me, I am not sure how “Christian” it is I say it to your face and I am an equal opportunity butt ripper. See I do not care; trust me I really don’t.
I don’t like the UN and it’s policies.
I am not the problem, this unquestioning, corrupt support for the racist corrupt state of Israel is the damned problem. Along with many others. Not all the evil in the world comes from Israel; the evangelical branch of Christianity is being corrupted and is one of the main driving forces behind it and actually applauds it. That disturbs me more than you can even imagine.
No, I am not the problem and don’t you dare slander me and those like me as Anti Semitic I am not. There are many innocent Jews- zero innocent Zionists.
Do not slander me, I really don’t appreciate that. I really don’t it is wrong.
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:59 am
You also might want to look up “Synecdoche fallacy” for future reference.
I am not amused Reply:
August 8th, 2009 at 10:28 am
ModerationVocation:
I am a bible believing Christian, see my post below.
The only thing I can say it is apparent a 3rd temple will be erected from the book of Revelation. For the Abomination of desolation to reoccur; basically the beast (aka: anti christ) to go into that temple and desecrate it dictates that there will be one in the future. How this will be accomplished I do not know. I simply know it will happen.
I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling to the nations. – It is in the bible.
There does seem to be recent archeological evidence to suggest that the actual temple ran somewhere that is not directly under the Dome of the Rock. This may avoid blowing it up and starting WW3.
This does not, I mean does not support he creation or the policies of the corrupt, unbiblical State of Israel. That is supported by corrupted theology. That is another discourse.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
f--- Ron Paul. Any idiot who isn’t white and is missing teeth could have known the things he talks about years ago. Believe it or not guess where his logic and the logic of People like Noam Chomsky come from? Critiques AGAINST capitalism. Ron Paul just masks his “rebellious” talk with conservative “values” whatever that bulls--- is. Instead of your commies jokes maybe you morons should actually read your adversaries instead of shouting them done like the obese drunken football rabble you are
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Another swearing, hate filled, illiterate response. Ron Paul is not a Messiah, but he is shining light into the dark abyss of the problem. It is up to us to find a solution and implement it, with or without him.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Ron Paul is a patriot. Too bad the RNC is just as corrupt as Washington. Ron Paul never had a chance in the good ole boys club. How in the hell did we end up with McCain as the opposing candidate? If you want to make a real statement, in 2010 and 2012 hand carry your symbolic vote to Washington. 150 million patriots peacfully decending on the capitol might convince Pelosi that we are not the conservative version of her Acorn goons. I am sick and tired of elitist poiticians who think the people are too ignorant to know what is good for them. They work for us, and lets never let them forget that.
Richard Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
75% of republicans support the wars 8 years after the 911 false flag attack, no wmd and a $2 trillion deficit. With an electorate like that, is it any wonder things are as screwed up as they are?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
According to government and university studies, the US has the highest per capita rate of mental illness on the planet. There’s still a lot of people who make an effort to think straight, but there’s no shortage of evidence of those who don’t on these comment boards. I can only imagine the trash the moderators keep off them.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
The only reason why we have government is because we need impartial justice and someone to enforce the law. -LA
What happens though when entrenched sold out for $$$ interests make ‘impartial justice’ impossible, and the only laws enforced are mainly for the benefit of those who wrote them and theirs.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
There will be a small gathering on 9/12/09. Maybe a million or 3. Care to join us?
August 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Ron Paul is just preparing the way for global government, folks. He wants you to help in the effort, that’s why he’s got you duped into aiding the effort to do away with the Fed (which will only be replaced by a global monetary system). So, of course he’s saying the government is a failure (and needs to be replaced with global governance?).
Wolves dressed in Sheeps Clothing Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Good point, the Money Changers have been carefully orchestrating this for the past 200 years……
When the Zionists see the masses catch on to their operation, they LEAD THE CHANGE and implement another plan while we think we got rid of them….
They know the time is up and will not fight it, they will LEAD IT and implement their next plan.
“There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and that is an idea whose time has come.”
The best course of action is to quietly educate as many people as you can as to the nature of those who are behind the Global Government. Desensitize them to the term “Anti-Semite” .
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:34 am
How many people here know what Zionism actually is?!?
There is *absolutely* no credible link between the movement for Hebrews to re-establish themselves back in their homeland and global government.
Liza Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I think it has several definitions…The definiton of Zionism that I have read is that there are the true Jews, and then there is a large contingency of false Jews (nominal, secular, agnostic) that CALL themselves Jews, like Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who was really Nathan Mayer Bauer. It all sounds a little weird, but Revelation talks about a “synagogue of Satan”. That is where the term comes from. There ARE true Jews. But, like every other ethnic group on this earth, their name has been co-opted by evil people. I look at current affairs from the lens of prophecy, and it is amazing how things are lining up. There WILL be a rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem, but it will be used by Jews, Muslims, and Christians. This very day, there are some Muslim and Jewish leaders that are collaborating on rebuilding the “temple” as part of the “New Jerusalem Coalition”. I don’t think true Jews will be a part of the global govt….in fact, just the opposite. But the false Jews will be party with other NWO factions to create that govt. and it WILL happen in the middle east.
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:04 am
I hear his calls for a gold backed monetary system, but that doesn’t mean he is calling for a global currency. JFK was trying to stabilize the currency with silver before he got assassinated. Do you think he was attempting to support a global, one world monetary reliance? Even if that’s Pauls agenda, we have the opportunity to bring back a self reliant system. We don’t need other Countries. We can rely on ourselves and our ingenuity the way we did before The Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Everyone is good at pointing the finger and blaming, but few are capable of engineering it’s deployment and success.
Liza Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I don’t think Paul advocates a global financial system…give me some hard factsl
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Gary:
I never once heard R. Paul extolling a world currency or government, just the opposite in fact. He touts congressional control.
The civil war was really fought over greenbacks, more than a 2% tax on tea.
I personally am not sure what to make of R. Paul; but that remark is very disingenuous.
Gary Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
No, you haven’t, and you never will. That is not his function in this. His function is to build support for doing away with the Fed. Of course, being opponents of the Fed, we will all support that, as planned. Thus, even those who believe they support the truth movment and the patriot movement will be creating the vacuum into which the global monetary system will be inserted once the Fed is gone. That’s the plan. Paul’s role is gain the trust and support of truthers and patriots and mislead them to create that vacuum. Understand?
I am not amused Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Gary:
I am going to be honest I really do not know R. Paul’s role and I do not know R. Paul.
I do know something is incredibly wrong. There are facts that I can document and some pretty good guess thrown in there.
There are people in the media and politics I know are corrupt the rest I take with a grain of salt. I don’t know them personally. No disrespect intended but at this point in the game if I do not know you I do not trust you. They may be fine, still I just have been very badly burned.
I do know one thing, Jesus knows and I guess that is all that really matters. I am to the point I could spend forever trying to ascertain what is exactly is going on and I don’t know if I could ever really put the pieces of the puzzle together correctly. Everyone is a CIA Shill, well according to everyone else. It is ridiculous.
I know not to take the vaccine, try to get off the grid as much as possible, the dollar is probably tanking, try to store up some supplies, I am pretty sure 9-11 was an inside job and the war on terror is a bunch of crap and I know it is really about oil and the multi internationals, we are probably the biggest terrorists on earth as a country and that is why the world really hates us, Israel needs to be cut off and sent to the peace table and we need to reign in AIPAC and stop running political cover for them, the biggest drug importers are I am 98% sure are the CIA, that much I am sure on and to stay away from the Catholics and many in the pulpit, stay away from the toxic chemicals in food and water try and go organic, the FDA is corrupt as hell and on and on and on and the judicial system may as well be renamed corruption inc. and on and on and on and on and on you could go nutty.
I will just keep my eye on it and leave the rest to God. I am getting to the point I may wind up in the funny farm. I know our government is very corrupt and Obama is no better than Bush and I hate to even say it, we will loose our sovereignty to that one world government.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
.idiot …you are…
Funny at most. I cracked up picturing this: “daughters sticking *hangars* in their vag”
hangar: –noun
1. a shed or shelter.
2. any relatively wide structure used for housing airplanes or airships.
ROFLOL
August 6th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
You Americans are so f---ed up. What a farce these postings.
ModerationVacation Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Care to elaborate with a counterpoint or is it enough to abuse those that you believe are beneath you?
Richard Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:08 am
Some are, some aren’t, some think your’s are, but you can make them. How about where you’re from?
Gary Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Unlike your post that fails to back your remark with any substance whatsoever?
August 6th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Go back to TEL AVIV Shlomo .
The Whyman Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:26 am
Do consider to leave your baseless and prejudicial anti-semetic bigotry behind when you want to make a valid point next time.
http://www.spurgeon.org/images.....-s_062.jpg
August 6th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
The incumbency’s support electorate is a big part of the problem.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Ron Paul is commander in chief, all hail Paul. Not all Americans are stupid. We do pay attention and the millions of Paul following die-hards will never lay our flag down and always continue the fight.
AuthenticChef Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Did any of you catch the Peter Schiff interview on MSNBC’s Ed Show yesterday? It goes to show how the corporate media will deliberately try to belittle anyone that tries to speak the truth. This is the same guy that was laughed at, for years, as he was accurately predicting the current economic collapse. They use the same tactics on Ron Paul. You can check out the interview at http://www.yaliberty.com or on youtube. I also highly recommend the YT video “Peter Schiff They are listening now March 25th 2009.”
August 7th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Here is the main issue:
You have no free speach rights because you can get reported to the whitehouse.
Solution: speak out againt obama and spread infowars.com
If the cops show up and arrest you for speaking your mind use the 2nd ammendment to defend your 1st amendment
I hope that the 1st ammendment can win this alone.
Buy ammo now and get a gun. Note that in Nazi Germany if you registered your gun they took it away. An unregistered gun is hidden from a corrupt goverment.
Having an unregistered gun is legal under the 2nd ammendment folks.
Write infowars.com on the very top and bottom of every dollar.
The truth will set you free!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Folks this is the white house you must stop talking bad stuff about the white house. our narcs have reported all of you so stop or else
-obama
PS: tell billy I love him, oh billy
August 7th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Omg quit it with the swasticas infowars folks!
I am having an affair with hillary
Oh did nancy say you guys are naazies?
She did and it was on the news. Look on you tube.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Doesn’t say much for the general public does it? If 911 was a one time deal, some of them might have an excuse. But after 911, the Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Maine and who knows what else. It’s clear that a lot of them simply don’t care and lap up the propaganda like pigs at the trough, which is why the US is going down the tubes.
Sar4Life Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
well, the United States IS oftentimes referred to as an experiment.. :/
August 7th, 2009 at 12:43 am
I don’t trust the snake.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:24 am
The draw back of the Ron Paul cadency was that if offered the people a clear choice between a candidate loyal to the Constitution and a bunch of lackeys for the imperialist elite. And the people chose the biggest tool of all. Now when the broken masses finally look up from beneath the boots of the new regime and cry freedom, the masters will remind them that they had that option but chose their own enslavement. I admire the man and was (still am) a big supporter but sometimes I wish he never had run. Then at least we’d have the argument that we never had a choice.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 am
There has been numerous talks about that Obama will soon visit North Korea soon.
Clinton has been discussed this with Kim, and I guess it will be granted. If Clinton visited North
Korea, why shouldn’t Obama visit North Korea as well ?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:53 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=52
August 7th, 2009 at 1:54 am
Your county has gone to hell in a picnic basket but is isn’t the NWO fault, it all the criminals and crappy people you have there. You all need rounded up and chipped so you will have to behave yourselves…FEMA trains hurry the f--- up …the stink of your country is leaving the shores!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:12 am
well then RON if governments’ such a failure i sure would support some kind of NEW system of government leadership duhhhhh how ’bout one good ‘ole clean NEW government duhhhh . .
like a new world order duhhhh
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 am
Well if the NWO order is bad, what about what happens else where it amazes me how people go on about it and yet elsewhere is much worse… in the countries NWO seem in, at least there is health care and welfare.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:59 am
Have you noticed how a considerable number of these people use ironic names?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 am
Paul sais that your neighbor in an effort to get rich should in fact be allowed to poison your water supply,because after all ,you are entitled to sue your neighbor if that happens !
Paul believes that the free market if left alone would have caused the end of slavery.He pointed out that at one time slaves, ”if they could afford to do so” could purchace their freedom. Now get this,despite his absolute distrust of government ,the guy has suggested that the government should have just paid for the slaves and then set them free! He does not even consider the fact that according to the rules of the free market the slave owners had no obligation to sell the slaves.The fact of the matter is that Paul endorses rule by wealth,not rule by the people for the people. The NWO would be proud to call Paul their own,however they are smart enough to understand the value of stealth,whereas Paul would make no effort to disguise his love of elite rule by wealth.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:41 am
Resistence is not futile;
1. Pay no taxes in support of war , vaccines and national debt to the usurious world bankers.
2. Stop paying interest on debt to corporations
3. Take vitamin D to avert the flu
4. Spread the awareness you have to at least one new person each day
5. Speak to policemen and soldiers when you can, we need to reduce the strength in the hands of the elite. Speak about the constitution, direct them to supportive websites..
If we build a new world with guns, then violent cliques will become the new elite. The new world will be built on the firm foundation of love.
Fear nothing, death is a lie.
http://www.olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com (NO religion, just good)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Freedom and Liberty is reserved for those who are brave enough to take and keep.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:07 am
You forgot to malign Israel with unwarranted extrapolations like all the other irrational bigots that do so.
Texas Justice Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
To The Whyman
It’s interesting that you brought that up. As a Masonic Jew and assistant in the tea partys in Texas. I don’t remember being bussed to the rally, No one gave me lottery tickets to go and NO we didn’t all vote for Obama! All people had to do was read his book to see his true feelings on many topics. With a nation of gullible illiterates it’s easy to see how he got in. So where do we go from here? Or in what direction is the gov herding us into? Easiest way to find a trap is to see what decisions your adversary wants you to make.
Corporate Death Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Did someone strike a nerve? Get to the truth? You must a dual Anti-American. Most likely. Beat it.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:48 am
All government must fail, if those who agreed to be governed relax their oversight. The bigger the government, the bigger the ultimate failure. On a daily basis we’re watching the integration of global governance; all bets are off.
Ben Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:03 am
If we are supposed to be free, we can’t be governed by anyone but ourselves.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
"ren Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
i’ll second that
August 7th, 2009 at 6:58 am
“matter of fact I think polio was truly eradicated by inoculations, well a small part”
excuse me!
polio already disappeared totally, but in order to get their vaccins sold
they let it loose artificially on the population shortly before WWII
August 7th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Ron Paul is beyond reproach.
A million times the Presifent FUNZO makes.
Even on his WORST day.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:54 am
RON PAUL’S SON IS RUNNING FOR SENATE IN KY
August 7th, 2009 at 8:23 am
You can’t trust Government. I can’t trust Corporations.
You can choose Corporations you say. But they are a monopoly.
You can throw the bums out of office, but they are paid to stay.
Which is easier to influence. Government or Corporations.
That is the question. Because unfortunately they are in control.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
.idiot….
Understand this: Government healthcare IS no healthcare! You are a mind-controlled robot by the MSM.
Can you not make a point without using the F*** word constantly? It only backs up the assumption that you are ravaged by hate and anger, and are incapable of carrying on an intelligent discussion.
Have a nice vaccine! Think of it…you won’t even have to make the choice to end your life in your 70’s or 80’s…the govt. and drug co’s will do it FOR you MUCH earlier! Perfect solution!
Govt. run healthcare pushes the pharm. co’s products FOR them! The FDA is constantly trying to squelch info and outlaw NATURAL, CHEAP, and EFFECTIVE alternative health solutions.
The govt. actually DEPENDS on the profits of the pharm. co’s to finance their re-election campaigns…they have a vested interest……see? It’s not so hard to understand!
You seem VERY preoccupied with abortion…what is THAT psychosis?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Have you guys noticed all these companies buying up gold jewlery on TV? And it states that they will stop buying it on September 30, sounds like they know something we don’t. I wonder who they work for?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I am not surte how, but Huffington was able to dissuade a lot of people away from Paul’s platform just shy of these past two pResidential selections. I (had) a girlfriend who fell into that ‘Oh, Paul, I mean he’s ‘nice,’ but he’s been totally discredited.” –I asked why? –She knew little. Doubtless she will never understand why I prefer WND, even though I usually can’t stand their oral ’sermons.’
The guy who called in yesterday–remember that true asshole?–his intent was justifiable if he had stuck to his position on Huffington’s dangerous alliances, That feeling parallels my reaction to “AntiWar,” which virtually patented the COG-straw-dog methodology as they RAN from 9/11 Truth. Note, true ‘conservatives,’ and I can safely include Max Keiser, are certainly correct to call Soros an Bernake “Capitalist Pigs.”
The problem arose when he started trying to pin THEIR philosophy on Alex & Co. Right, or wrong, I believe it’s cool to just hang up on callers like that, but the discourse continued. Alex played it relatively cool, given the assertions: “You Got 10 Seconds to ask Keiser Your Question!!!” –LOL!
Max, and Alex truly are the ultimate on-air duo, equally prepared to defend themselves as they both profess their opinions in the most ethical ways possible. You can’t fault these guys for developing top investigative skills, or having the nose of a bloodhound…
LOVED THE SHOW WITH MAX KEISER!!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:01 am
“I think polio was truly eradicated by inoculations”
If inoculations were really available, doesn’t it mean that someone was growing the virus, on an industrial scale, during the time of the outbreaks?
Also, don’t some vaccines cause some people to become contagious, for a certain period of time?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
August 7th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Every system eventually corrupts itself. I think we have reached that point.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Alex Jones isn’t saving freedom, he is just making money off of all of you. No freedom is being saved here- freedom is saved by people who turn off the radio, unplug the internet and go out and actually do something to make the world a better place. everyone else is just a potato.
http://www.youtube.com/noreast77
August 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Correct.
You Thought:
- Working People non-stop to stay ahead.
- Filling us with your polutants in our air, water, & food.
- Juicing everyone up on your mind numbing drugs.
-And, MSM spewing never-ending Propaganda.
That WE were not paying attention…You Were Wrong!
The (hot shot) Democrats thought they would show you “How to do it.”
But, frankly. You know now. They just “blew it”.
(yes, over reached)
Mr. Popular turned out to be Mr. Flash-in-the-Pan.
Strutting around with his nose in the air.
Talking “smack” like he just doesn’t care.
You bet on the wrong hoss.
Can’t have a Leader if nobody is following.
There’s going to be a lot of Big Losers.
The People are not “Buying the LIES”
August 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
This country is turning into a bully state. i know how to deal with bullies; if you don’t, I suggest you learn.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
FEAR: Too many otherwise good, patriotic American’s are frozen with fear over current events. They are not going to make any preparations unless we get them out of the fear/freeze zone. If you know someone like this, I urge you to help them through it and find comfort in confronting and controlling their fears. It’s not going to get any easier. Better to help them through the psychological part of this now. There is no substitute for the support of good friends and family. However, if time and distance are an issue, I found a program that works. Visit my blog. God’s speed.
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Vince Street
August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I’m glad I don’t live in the US. It just seems like an endless shouting match between the partisan left and partisan right. Don’t you find it exhausting? The world is not and cannot be so black and white.
Most of you people aren’t talking about workable solutions, you’re just throwing invective around.
How can you expect progress when you’re so polarized?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I would vote for RON in a heart beat! RUN FOR PREZ RON!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Government Much like religion is an out of date system of soscity at cirtein points in our past we as humanity needed leadership needed guidenece. These things where needed when we did not yet understand that everything you will ever need your wore born with the capablities to posses.
………………………………I know a large army of people who need no rule or need not follow what one person thinks is tha law. they understand Governemnt is as much a crutch as Religion
STAND UP AN REMEMIND THEM (i say them meaning alot of people) THAT WE DON’T NEED THEM
there singal biggest fear is a compeltly independent world that needs no leadership
“Live our life to protect our resources
Live your life to protect our wat of life
Treat knowldge as common heritage to all humanity” JLH
we need not bring it down stand proud to watch it fall
will be there to pick it up again
“CITAZENjaxWILL”
August 7th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6inINzThw
August 8th, 2009 at 10:33 am
La Resistance:
Have you checked out corruption inc. (oops I mean our esteemed judiciary) lately. There still is some form of justice in the USA it is vanishing quickly.
The judiciary is corrupt and the rich have a whole different set of rules to play by than the rest of us.
Tragically, justice in the United States is often for sale too the highest bidder and the most ruthless.
It seems to be getting worse. Many laws are unjust and they enforce them just the same.
August 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Let’s not forget one of the most effective means of citizen resistance. When you are called for jury duty, by all means go — and rather than trying to get out of serving, please do everything you can to get ON the jury! When there are so many bad laws on the books, one of the best ways to fight back is to refuse to convict people for those laws, just as jurors historically voted “Not Guilty” in the trials of runaway slaves, etc.
When in the jury pool, don’t disclose any controversial views you may hold, or facts about yourself not easily discoverable by the authorities, which would cause you to be dismissed from the jury pool for cause, or by the attorneys of one side or the other. When the judge asks whether you can follow the law as he/she instructs it to you, etc., say yes even if you disagree. Do not say anything about jury nullification or the Fully Informed Jury Association. (But DO hand out FIJA fliers outside courthouses when you are not a juror!)
If you are seated as a juror, and the defendant stands accused of a “crime” which should not be against the law in the first place, such as drug use or sales, carrying or owning a weapon, prostitution, tax evasion, etc., when you get to the jury room vote not guilty. But don’t be too eager to do so right away — give the appearance of deliberating and listening to the arguments of other jurors. And don’t explain the real reason of your vote — just say you did not find the evidence convincing beyond a reasonable doubt, even if it makes you look dumb, and keep repeating that. All it takes is your 1 vote out of 12 jurors to acquit. The system will not be able to do anything against you, and an innocent person may be saved years of his or her life, and the taxpayers saved the large cost of keeping them wrongly incarcerated. Perhaps the accused’s treatment at the hands of the State may even help turn them into a freedom activist.
Remember the “Four Boxes of Freedom”:
(1) The soap box
(2) The ballot box
(3) The jury box
(4) The ammo box
If we are diligent in using boxes 1-3, we will not have to get to #4!
August 9th, 2009 at 12:02 am
I feel much better now.
I was going to post something but I don’t want to harsh the good felling after reading someone that makes a whole lot of sense.
Thank you Ron Paul.