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Ron Paul on Corporatist and Socialist Medicine
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June 15, 2009
June 15, 2009
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June 15th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
The wife is an MD and she agrees totally with Dr.Paul’s take on the subject – As do I.
showmebby Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
OK I admit it. I wrote Ron Pauls name in on election day. OOOOPS guess Im a terrorist.
Salomon Levy Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Dr. Paul,
Your sincerity itself is bullshit; in fact, by appealing to a little bit of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap Congressman Ron Paul is able to seduce his brute and ignorant constituency and most important, to perpetuate himself in that position for years to come (a clever way to make easy money).
prisoner Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
^^^^
have another tall glass of flouride. when’s your next mercury shot?
MMB Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Thanks. That was funny.
moto Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Thats funny dude. He also needs to go out side for some fresh chemtrail air:)
showmebby Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Your mom
showmebby Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
You know the comment about easy money
überleethax Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 7:44 am
did anyone else notice that this same exact copy and paste message, which makes no sense, is posted to every page on this site w/ ron paul in it? spam?
el nino Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
really… that would explain how ron paul makes money of being sincere.
gummibarron Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
If Obama really cared about us he would find all of the missing money this government has stolen from us (look up the 2.3 trillion missing Sept.10th 2001 the day before 9-11) and all the money given to these corporations, and fund health care for quite a while. Instead, we have to hear this bs on how we have jacked the prices up. I will not listen to one more thing that they are speaking about until this government starts to account for every dime we have given them. That money is precious and it is time away from my family that i have given them. The audacity that now we need to give them more. WAKE UP. Come on how much more are we going to put up with!!!
Call Me Al Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
spoken like a true JEW ZIONIST TROLL
Call Me Al Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Previous comment aimed at original poster
SALOMON LEVY
ken Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 5:35 am
Yeah really. I was wondering if any other poster here was going to make that connection. SALOMON LEVY
House Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Salomon Levy Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Dr. Paul,
Your sincerity itself is bullshit; in fact, by appealing to a little bit of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap Congressman Ron Paul is able to seduce his brute and ignorant constituency and most important, to perpetuate himself in that position for years to come (a clever way to make easy money).
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Just prior to watching RP’s comments, I wondered why the hell do people even need someone to explain the obvious….kind of like “don’t stick your face in the fire Billy”. Then I read this morons post, and realized some people are just destined to ride the short bus all their lives………
Ron Paul 2012! Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
This Salomon Levy joker is earning his welfare check by trolling and posting NWO bs. Sad little turd…
steve Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 4:15 am
Ron Paul is right. Truly free-market medicine would lower the price of medical care immensely. Think about veterinary medicine, you can pay out of pocket for a heart transplant for a dog for $5000, and that surgery is not any different than the same surgery on a human. So why the price difference? Malpractice insurance, and health insurance. Or look at another example, LASIK. I just had both eyes done for $1500 total, and I have perfect 20/20 vision. LASIK is not covered by insurance. Thus the free market determines the price, keeping it in line of what the average person can afford. Now compare that to one other example. I had a kidney stone a couple years back, I had to go to the emergency room because I was in so much pain. They gave me a blood test, an MRI, and some pain pills, no surgery, no other medical care, I was there for a few hours tops. They sent me home and said it was small enough that I could pass it on my own by drinking plenty of fluids. The bill was $8000 I kid you not. Health insurance is the biggest fraud on the planet.
Gargazola Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 11:56 am
A gorilla broke out of the zoo yesterday. “I’m sure it’s just one of Michelle Obama’s ancestors – probably harmless .”
Uncle Sam Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
You are one racist little piece of garbage aren’t you? Whats next little boy, are you gonna go on a shooting rampage and kill a bunch of black children….nah you are just a racist little scum sucking coward. You and your kind are a cancer in our country which needs to be removed by any means necessary. I hope the alleged FEMA camps are being built to hold assfucks like you.
Freedomfighter Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Wow, list to you. Are you some disinfo Obamabot Liberal who pretend to be part of the patriot movement?
don't tread on me Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 12:09 am
That’s not cool at all. Shame on you!
don't tread on me Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 12:10 am
I agree with you, uncle sam…
Freedomfighter Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Go cry Obamabot. Weeeeeaaaaaahh, weeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah.
sobber Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
he is wrong on this one I lived in communist medicine and it was ok, u had to wait in line but it was free and u did not have to worry about loosing your home when bills get high ; all u get under current corporate medicine is arrogance ignorance and millions unnecessary tests and pills making you more sicker and dependent on evil doctors; Ron Paul is wright on everything else but this he got it wrong ; Doctors dont like it because they have million salary will go down to decency levels that is why they are against it
June 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Long live dr. Paul.
MMB Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Socialized medicine could require mandatory chip implants for those willing to be taken care of without working for it. Just more big and centralized gov’t under the usurper..
Uncle Sam Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
More baseless fear brought on by the uninformed and the religious right.
nick Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Uncle Sam,
the religious right? Serious?
Godzilla's Back Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Short live Ron Paul, he will die soon. He’s like 96 years old.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
LOOK AT HER ”unic ideas”, THAT’S HOW THEY PREPROGRAM MINDS.I’AM SICK OF IT.
June 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Deceiving as it gets, health care will receive much attention from the public, thanks to real men like Ron Paul
June 15th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Well I totally agree with Dr. Ron Pauls take on things I would have it so any child/person under the age of 18 has free health care its not the childs fault the parent can’t or doesn’t want to pay for it and no need for government/people to punish them for their parents inability or indiference towards them
June 16th, 2009 at 1:08 am
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June 16th, 2009 at 1:38 am
I don’t agree with mister Paul, collective health care is the most efficient way to do it. We have to put more attention into it. An economy with free health care is alot more competitive than one who forces the company to pay for it.
tuff old man Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 7:22 am
You haven’t hear -THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH-That’s it take more of our labor,government is the problem,let the free market work.We are all adults out here.I don’t need a nanny.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:54 am
This is all Obama following the Iron mountain report recommendations.This isn’t his do-gooder agenda like he cares about the people.I have the Iron mountain report in my hand and it says
“the general objective of complete government guaranteed health care for all at a level consistent with current developments in medical technology.”
This is all him transforming America for PEACE !!! Their world government objectives.
http://video.google.com/videop.....2652553091
June 16th, 2009 at 3:28 am
Not only did it push the cost up but there is now a mountain of government paperwork involved. A health care worker spends more time doing paperwork than taking care of a patient.
In the health care field, it is all about money…not about the care of the patient. All care is decided by how much money a patient is going to cost and the value of their insurance.
The insurance companies (medicaid and medicare mainly) dictate to the doctors what kind and what degree of health care you receive.
The health care field is a total mess. The people are overworked and don’t care. Keep yourself healthy.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:30 am
Notice she grits her teeth when he speaks. She hates the sound of free enterprise. What a commie.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:01 am
Paul is unfortunately partly wrong. It is not State involvement itself that increases prices, it is State subsidisation of private, market actors that is heavily inflationary and obviously self-destructive. The State can easily control the prices for medicine without causing mass shortage of necessary medicine. The money any nationalised health service pays for medicine is a fraction of the US market price (since pharma inflates its prices incredibly and is protected in the good ol’ US of A).
qi woo Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Yep thats how it works today,its just like gas.Take a drive around your town,gas is more in the well wealthier areas compared to the low income.Just a marketing tool
Patriot @ DFW Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Gas is a bad example. The reason there are more gas stations in the affluent areas and less in the low income areas, is because the station owners are tired of being robbed.
Doctors get “kick backs” from large pharma, so they want to keep you taking prescriptions whether you need them or not!!
The FDA “regulates” the drug industry, and they are just as corrup as the politicians. They regulated based on the amount of grease in teir palm!!!
The medical system is just about as corrupt as our federal government, so they make great bedfellows. Huh?
We need to clean up DC, let the freemarket work and just see how we prosper.
JohnK Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:55 am
The Pharmaceutical Industry in the US is regulated by the failed FDA, such that a new drug costs billions to develop, and then must be mass marketed in order for the companies to recoup those costs. The massive increases in the cost of health care has always begun with govt involvement. The FDA has never done a good job of keeping unsafe drugs from the market, but instead has promoted back room dealings for political/financial gains at the expense of us all. The proper role of govt in this and all other areas of life as stated by Thomas Jefferson:
“Let the general government be reduced to foreign concerns only…………………… and our general government may be reduced to a very simple organization and a very inexpensive one; a few plain duties to be performed by a few servants.” –Thomas Jefferson to Gideon Granger, 1800. ME 10:168
Can you imagine our govt as a very simple organization, and a very inexpensive one?
June 16th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Health Care should be free for all who deserve it. Fuck Ron Paul on this subject.
The cost of medication is too high BECAUSE BUSH GAVE THE COMPANIES THE RIGHT TO CHARGE WHATEVER THEY WANTED. IT’S NOTHING TO DO WITH INFLATION AT ALL.
LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!! Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 6:55 am
He said corporatism was the reason health care cost have risen. We should go back to the days where doctors were patrons of the community. I believe in a cast system. Lets train people from birth to be a doctor or whatever……
June 16th, 2009 at 6:38 am
It’s time to take our freaking liberties back
June 16th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Insurance Corporations
Big Pharma
PROFIT
DEATH
No single-payer at the table.
No Medicare-for-all at the table.
AIPAC’s Federal Reserve doin’ the 911 dance…
June 16th, 2009 at 7:47 am
What I don’t understand is this reluctance to socialized medicine. IF THEY ARE GOING TO POISON YOU LET THEN AT LEAST PAY FOR IT! YOU NOT GONNA GET AWAY FROM THE KILLING QUALITY.
BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS THE AMERICAN WAY TO BE SELF EFFICIENT. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IF YOU WORK AT K MART OR SIMILAR PAID JOBS, THE WORKING CLASS(taboo words in America) WHICH IS THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA, CAN’T AFFORD THE PRICES?…I DON’T THINK THATS RIGHT.
PRIVATE HEALTHCARE IS STILL THE SAME DEMON WITH A DIFFERENT MASK:(Kissinger voice over) If you can’t afford it rot in hell!
YOU HAVE TO SEE THAT THESE PROGRAMMS OF HEALTHCARE WERE DESIGNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SKULL AND BONES. THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MOULDED AND MADE THE AMERICAN PERSONA.
It’s anybody’ guess what is right
June 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
responding to steves comment:steve you made a very intelligent observation,and i totally agree with your statement.Insurance of any kind is a huge scam!
June 16th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Want some real life examples, here we go. When I was 6 months old, I was found to have a growth on my neck due to a malformed artery. The Surgeon who removed it was the family GP and a surgeon too. It cost about $1100 dollars back in ‘59. Along comes a broken ankle in ‘95. Had to have plates and screws put in. Over $10,000 dollars! The equation goes something like this in my mind: Big Pharma + Medical Insurance + Malpractice Insurance + Hospital Profits (even in non-profit hospitals!) + Malpractice Attorneys X inflation = Too MANY TRYING TO GET A PROFIT! And out of all these players making big dollars in profits, who gets hurt? WE DO! There is no reason that they can’t either take a more reasonable bite out of the pie or just be removed from the equation. For example, what is the real effect of malpractice insurance? Does it insure the patient against honest errors or does it cover up incompetence that would otherwise put a mediocre doctor out of business? Think on it. They keep yelling that “capitalism has failed”. But, I think they lie. We’ve let capitalism get rigged odds for some on insurance and legal regulations have kept it from acting as true capitalism would be expected to otherwise.
Rich Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 10:41 am
You all still don’t understand that this is the nature of capitalism because of human nature! We all are born with the free choice of right and wrong. That said, in free market capitalism, there WILL be people who choose to be greedy and game the system for their own profit. Your beloved Ron Paul and the rest of the Ayn Rand hacks always say that we don’t need regulation in a free market, but I’m sorry, as long as human nature persists it will be there and the only way for your “pure” capitalism to come to reality is if the world’s humans were all replaced by androids.
hugh Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
to RICH and NICEGUY Spot on; well said!
niceguy Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 11:08 am
$10,000 for a bust ankle? that costs a UK citizen . . . . nothing.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
The original story of BladeRunner, was actually first written by William Burroughs as a screen play
Ridley Scott, took Burroughs’ name, and used the Philip Dick novel. I love the movie btw,
anyways – burroughs blade runner, was about, how after the health care riots,
where private medical practice is outlawed, Drs who perform medical procedures, etc go underground… If a dr is caught with surgical equipment, he could be jailed –
so young kids become blade runners..
society totally breaks down after the health care riots – cities lose power – cunning inovative people make delco pulley systems to go up and down buildings, hang gliders, etc.
its an awesome story…
Huge parts of the country return to the wild, with crazy people livin true to their animal gods
no real freedom, in our current existense, return to wild wild wild wild west.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:04 am
ron paul is of such seemingly honest and sincere demeanor, that it would make great sense for the globalists to already be grooming him in the public eye for election to office once obama has finished his round of destruction.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I know Ron Paul is taking the opportunity to talk about what is wrong.
But the media is using him to pretend to be showing both sides to look like they are not biased.
The media is promoting any plan by Obama and pretending to have a heart.
The media is allready National propaganda and owned by the companies trying to get free tax money (O.P.M. Other People’s Money).
The politicians hand it out too and Ron Paul gives the illusion that the politicians care.
Only a few of them like him really care enough to say “NO”.
Don’t let yourself be used by the corporate media RP. Only go on radio and shows like Infowars that really are trying to educate the public and not confuse them with double-talk!!
The very idea the corporate media is obligated to show both sides but always leans more in the direction they want is just like the right and left paradigm.
Nothing in the middle. Ignore the real body.
Just one extreme or the opposite extreme.
There is no other options just A or B. Along with propaganda and illusions to fool us.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Just like Iran U.S Pres, its not who the best person for THE job, its the best person for THEIR job…
June 16th, 2009 at 11:56 am
A gorilla broke out of the zoo yesterday. “I’m sure it’s just one of Michelle Obama’s ancestors – probably harmless.”
June 16th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Ron Paul was too kind to Kucinich by cosponsoring HR 2424, the audit bill Dennis came up with in May – obviously Dennis asked him to cosponsor. RP came out with his audit bill in Feb. Kucinich’s bill does nothing to add to the audit powers of RP’s bill. Kucinich’s bill doesn’t even require mere reviews. The reviews only happen when the Comptroller General determines such actions are appropriate and sunsets in five years. The current Comptroller General was assigned, not confirmed, when the previous Comptroller General resigned; therefore his job is not safe.
Dennis either planned this in order to gain fame (RP may have to attach his bill), or DK is really trying to undermine HR 1207. I hope RP wasn’t too kind for his own good.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
@edjoy74 – True. There is nothing we can do except spread the good news that eventually this world will become on earth as it is in heaven.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
WELL , GANG !!! we have a NAZI in the white ( whore ) house , and he has no favor with God , period! OPPOSE THIS KRAP , and get ready for war here, it is soon. STAN MONTIETH has a report called ” THE CAPITALISTIC , COMMUNISTIC ALLIANCE ” , which proves they are both evil, period! GOVT. HELLTH INS. is outright NAZISM, and Hitler would be in envy of BOMY BOY if he came back to life now! THE STUPID PASTORS in this nation have a closed mouth on all of this, and they are just as evil as the bastard they are to oppose! PRAY OR THE BEST, PREPARE FOR THE WORST. dino.
June 19th, 2009 at 2:04 am
Ron Paul did not give a straight answer to the question about single payer. He said something about “socialized medicine”. They’re two different things. All the evidence says that single payer insurance is more efficient than corporate insurance. Sorry, but it is also more efficient than free market insurance if you want to cover everyone. The federal government also does not necessarily have to provide it.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:56 am
is it twinkie hour yet?
House Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Yes, officially as of : June 19th, 2009 at 4:56 am
June 19th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I JUST NEED $1 FROM 6,000 PEOPLE! I KNOW THIS IS POSSIBLE! PLEASE!
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ALEX,
I’m begging you, please tweet my site. I have to be freed for this mission.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Only sheer numbers can turn this around, make the Police and Troops question whose side they want to be on.
June 21st, 2009 at 9:19 pm
who also feels the urge to punch that guy at the end in the face every time they seem him? that guy is such a dumb loud mouthed bastard.. unbelievable
June 21st, 2009 at 11:10 pm
только у меня аська не коннектится?
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
It is a free enterprise system upon which this REPUBLIC , YES REPUBLIC, not DEMOCRACY was built. Dino is correct too that the pastors of this country are largely full of shit as well, and wouldn’t know evil from righteous if it punched them in the face. Obama wants his dirty grubby little islamic, non american paws into everything….he needs his paws slapped out of all the cookie jars. He must think is some sort of messiah…but I assure you he is not!