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  • Ron Paul Predicts 15-year Depression

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    Phil Davis
    Financial Times
    March 24, 2009

    Pension trustees and insurance company portfolio managers look away now. Your increased commitment to government bond holdings in recent times is about to blow up spectacularly.

    At least, that is the view of Ron Paul, the US congressman who ran against John McCain in last year’s Republican Party presidential nomination.

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    His is a minority view. Yields on government bonds worldwide have been falling fast over the past few months and in the UK, the commencement of “quantitative easing” this month sent bond prices soaring.
    But the credibility of both western governments and their currencies is waning, and has been ever since the gold standard was abandoned in 1971, says Mr Paul. And that means even “safe” investments are far from safe, he claims.

    “People will start to abandon the dollar as current and past economic policies create a steep rise in interest rates,” Mr Paul says.

    “If you are in Treasuries, you will need to be watchful and nimble to time your escape.”

    Unfortunately, cashing out will not protect the value of investments, he insists, because “fiat” currencies will all decline over the coming years as measures to try to haul the world economy out of recession fail. “The current stimulus measures are making things a lot worse,” says Mr Paul.

    “The US government just won’t allow the correction the economy needs.” He cites the mini-depression of 1921, which lasted just a year largely because insolvent companies were allowed to fail. “No one remembers that one. They’ll remember this one, because it will last 15 years.”

    At some stage – Mr Paul estimates it will be between one and four years – the dollar will implode. “The dollar as a reserve standard is done,” he says. He sees little hope for other currencies where central banks have also created too much liquidity dating right back to the early 1970s.

    “Europe and the US will both have to fundamentally change their money systems,” he adds.

    And don’t even mention shares to Mr Paul: “The last place you want to be is in the stock market,” he says. “It may not bottom out for 10 years – just look at Japan.”

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    127 Responses to “Ron Paul Predicts 15-year Depression”

    1. hammernail1976@hotmail.com Says:

      if we the people would just reclaim our “sovereign citizenship” things of this nature could never happen, because as is stands as of right now if you have not reclaimed your “sovereign citizenship” you have no rights no declaration of independence rights, amendment rights, or any other right for that matter, THIS IS FACT that has been proven in the courts time after time,the only thing you have is 14th amendment privileges which can be given or taken at any time by the grantee.
      see now i know that many of you think its just a null adhesion contract that was voided by the state or federal government abuse, but that is simply not the case, because as long as whatever is being done is being done to a people who have a “birth certificate” no matter what it is, they can do it with the backing of the courts because the grantees are sovereign people who are making things, and restricting things from a non- sovereign people, within a sovereign state, within a united corporation. and so, by reclaiming your sovereign citizenship, it restores all the rights that you where given at birthright by the state in which your born. the sovereign people would be able to make decision with the full backing of the declaration of independence, and the amended rights which where exchanged for “privileges” through adhesion contracts, please i challenge anyone who does not believe me or think im in left field about this to research, so you can see for yourself that what i speak of is FACT. please people it is the only other way then revolution to make the government get back into its proper smaller place working the the People!!!
      TO ALL THOSE BORN IN AMERICA, PLEASE RECLAIM YOUR SOVEREIGN CITIZENSHIP, INDIVIDUALLY DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND, SO WE THE PEOPLE CAN MAKE THE PUSH!!!
      IF YOU ARE TO TAKE PLACE IN THE BATTLE OVER FREEDOM IN THE TRUE SENSE YOU CAN NOT, AND SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTING ANY PRIVILEGE OR GRANT FROM THE OPPOSING FORCE, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT ACCEPTING ANYTHING FROM OPPOSING FORCE/CORPERATION IS LABELED AS “TREASON, OR DOUBLE AGENT” THE SAD THING IS, IS THAT MOST WHO ARE, DO NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE. WAKE UP!!WAKE UP!!!! RECLAIM WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS GIVEN TO at BIRTH, BY THE STATE IN WHICH YOU WHERE BORN!!!!!!!!!!

      Eric S. Reply:

      You’re the most annoying troll I’ve ever seen. All you do is spam the same message in every thread. Why would anyone take your message seriously after doing this? Any credibility the message has is invalidated because of how annoying you are.

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      eric, this is not spam,this is “solution” , the reason i am doing this is because i am going to accomplish a snowball effect, the same as alex jones or any other person attempting solution to something/ most people do not know that they are nothing more then a “subject slave” and it is my main purpose in life to give people the push in the direction that clearly states that we including an asshole like yourself are all kings, and queens, i am going to keep posting this until everyone on this site who sees my name will automatically know from with path i come from, and will see that my comment of topic is complete and total destruction of “the power structure/corperation” and it can be done without ever having to take to arms, and if arms need to be taken, then when done so, it will be done with no “privilege”, “grant” or “opportunity” from 0ppossing force and if u can not see that, you better research it and find truth within yourself, cause even though you fail to relise your comment to my post is completely what the power structure wants you to do, IT WILL NOT WORK, WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT LOOSE, and what the fuck is a “troll” isnt that a creature from mythical storys?, time to stop reading bed time story’s little eric, and ground yourself in documented facts??? grow up and take the path of individual choice making, you little punk!!

      A Commoner Reply:

      Hammernail, I commend your tenacity and determination, however, you have to understand that these people in power only have that power because we the “DUMBED DOWN” people allow them to have it. I agree with your views but you are asking a lazy population of illiterates to research something that is way over their heads. Most people still don’t understand that the Federal Reserve is a private institution. If you step back and realize that we are trying to operate in their system. Their system which has rules and laws that apply to us not them. Like you, I agree that we need more solutions and action instead of the non-stop complaining and doomsaying. The only way we will ever succeed is to unite and use their laws against them. Go to http://saveyourmoneyday.blogspot.com

      justin piche Reply:

      you talk as if you think we the people have control over all this. America was designed to have all these different kinds of people get together and compete. No one values or believes in the same things and everyone has a different god. Ya ok.. we’re one, the people! Give me a break. When riots break out, who usually gets hurt? Not the bankers, the cops and the people. When someone is starving to death and decides to mug someone it’s always an innocent citizen. It’s never someone in control, it’s always someone who is suffering and being controlled just the same. WE ARE ALL VICTIMS OF GREED! We’re all in this maze of traps together and the only key out of this maze is to take control of this maze together.

      'pinions are free...right? Reply:

      Hammernail, you are delusional. Get some help. You are not going to do shit. You don’t realize how stupid you sound to us. Get off the drugs. Get some help. You are clueless and annoying.

      World Capital111 Reply:

      Wut he says holds true, but if most educated people dont know this , let alone politicians and police, i dont know how far you can get by changing your stuff

      fight is comin neway

      http://www.soundclick.com/worldcApital

      World Capital111 Reply:

      hammer,

      what you say might be true, but wut good is it gonna do? you think the unlawful government will all of a sudden put a little forcefield around you and see you get a free pass and all your rights back?

      Somehow i dont think they care either way, sovereign or no sovereign, youll still be subjected like the rest of us.

      And oh yeah, have you even done the things that you scream at everyone else to do??
      Doubtful

      http://www.soundclick.com/worldcApital

      SJP2 Reply:

      hmm.

      everyone thinks they have the solution, but what is the solution? WE are the solution. i think every attempt to inform people or encourage people to take back their rights is an honorable attempt. in some cases, its just a natural reaction to want to inform others.

      back when i first read about 911 truth and absorbed all of that information, i was the same way… i spammed all kinds of websites because I felt the need to spread the message. that was 4 years ago and now after websites, myspace pages, flyers, DVDs, and just plain ol’ word of mouth, I’ve pissed a lot of people off, I’ve been threatened and called everything but intelligent, and I almost lost my job because I just can’t keep my mouth shut.

      but i’ve also inspired people along the way who have in turn helped spread the message.

      whenthemindsweakthewholebodysuffers Reply:

      federal prison system is full of tax protesters,who recinded thier dl, ssn,reclaimed thier state citizenship,commonlaw,bla ,bla ,bla…

      tony Reply:

      You’ll probably be with those in line to turn in your weapon for food. If you have one.

      wikity Reply:

      I’ll make sure to tell the foreign soldier with a gun to my head that he’s not allowed to shoot me because I have reclaimed my sovereign citizenship. I have little doubt that he will lower his weapon and let me walk away.

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      please read above your statment, damnit people the answer to it all is right there!!! WAKE UP!!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      they are not my ideas, they are the ideas our forefathers . dammit people don’t you relise all you have to do is research it yourself, i have no other reason to be there then let you know your mostly looking in the wrong direction, so your sorry asses better get used to me being here along wile

      uchikoma Reply:

      OK Tell us how your legal procedure is going to help us, tell us in one nice concise paragraph please.

      Have you any previous rulings concerning people who have nullified their birth certificate or whatever????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

      Answer me or by god I will hunt you down and beat it out of you.

      uchikoma Reply:

      it is getting so damn old like you won’t frakking believe.

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      it is not a legal procedure, why dont you people stop asking me, and do the research yourself. oh ya and “uchikoma” i wouldn’t recommend following through with your threat. but by all means don’t let me stop you, just know that it will not go as you plan,you can bet your “life” on it.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Listen fool.

      You claim that regaining sovereign citizenship changes the way the state deals with you.

      Thus it is a event in the legal realm.

      Please give a proper reply rather than spending half the post on my joke ‘threat’.

      uchikoma Reply:

      If you can’t abridge your scribblings into a paragraph or 3 that just goes to show that you don’t know what you are talking about and/or you are just parroting somebody.

      uchikoma Reply:

      “and so, by reclaiming your sovereign citizenship, it restores all the rights that you where given at birthright by the state in which your born………”

      If this is not a (very poor) description of a legal process what the hell is it?? Spiritual??????? Ecumenical?????

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      uchikioma, why is it that you need someone to “abide” anything for you ? do you think that me texting a seminar on “sovereign citizenship” will make what i say more “true” to you? When i first head of how my “sovereign citizenship” WAS exchanged for “privileges” i didnt take the word of the person who told me, i “individually” pursued research and “individually” took the steps that needed to take proper action, but only after i researched it out and got the facts for myself. i have already explained “HOW” THE CORPERATION OF THE uNITED sTATES swindled “birthrights” that where given to all AmericanS starting from the parents unkownly signature of birth certificate, and how the adhesion contract snowball takes effect. doesn’t it make sense that the research that is needed to inquired on how to effectively void contracts be researched by the individual wanting information ??
      “it is based on singularity” , once the individual Free’s themselves, then we the people as a whole can make true change!! STOP GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM A PERSON OR SPECULATION THAT MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE UNLESS YOU RESEARCH WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE FOR YOURSELF, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT TYPE OF FOUNDATION THAT INFORMATION IS BASED ON!!!! SEARCH WITHIN YOURSELF, THEY KEY TO IT ALL STARTS WITH THE “INDIVIDUAL”
      although it may be hard to find check out the book “american sovereign”

      uchikoma Reply:

      I said abridge not abide. It means try to make all of you dribblings into a more concise format.

      I am not getting my information from somebody who makes me feel comfortable, I background check all my facts.

      My original question is: How is your legal procedure going to help us when we are this far down the road. You denied it is a legal procedure at first but do not seem to have contradicted my observation that it must be a legal issue since it involves the state, rights and contracts.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Double click on the word abridge.

      uchikoma Reply:

      And please, I DO know the basics of what you are talking about, having listened to Jordan Maxwell amongst others. This is how I know that this is in the legal sphere.

      What I am asking is: How is a legal procedure – that the government would certainly try to mitigate to the end – going to help us at this, the 11th hour?

      I also asked if you know of any rulings pertaining to this subject.

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      uchikoma, and what i am telling you, is to the research on the thing for yourself, its not as though what im talking about is some big secret or new solution, that is not what i am saying at all, im telling you that its been there the whole time buried under a bunch of bullshit, which you been consuming whole heartily. because me sitting here texting a whole fuckin seminar on the subject of “sovereign citizenship” will not be as effective as you researching it yourself, you don’t need me to hold your fucking hand, its all there all the documented facts just waiting for you, its just a matter of you deciding “individually” to meet it there!!! NOW BACK THE FUCK OFF LET LET ME DO MY JOB INFORMING THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA THAT WE ARE ALL KINGS AND QUEENS, AND THAT THE GOVERNMENT MUST RENDER UNTO US WHAT IS UNDER ALL OF US!!!!!

      uchikoma Reply:

      Listen pal, throughout this little debate the main thing i have asked you is:

      How is a legal procedure – that the government would certainly try to mitigate to the end – going to help us at this, the 11th hour?

      I have done a lot of research into the way the world works and logic dictates that at this late state in the game we have to politically oppose the NWO and do not comply with what the want for the world.

      The theory you seem to support is that there is some hidden meaning to the constitution that must be researched. You seem to think that some legal slight of hand makes the constitution not apply to people and that you need some sort of maneuver involving your birth certificate to get out of it. Oh and you have to do a lot of research in the dubious document you have been passing around.

      People want a constitution that works in-facto
      and will have to use what is left of their rights to get it back……………….

      They will start wars soon and your dubious research will serve us no good.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Oh and if

      “……..MY JOB INFORMING THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA………..”

      is true,

      Why won’t you expand on what you have been saying? Why have you attacked people and set them homework instead of putting it in a nutshell for us poor ignorant fraks?

      TheKingOfTexas Reply:

      WHO IS THE KING OF TEXAS
      I will show myself on April 22 in Waco Texas at the massacre site. I am calling as many Christians of this nation who can find the time to come and see what it is that you don’t even know that you want.
      I have the answers for the Christians who have never been defended by their government but have rather been oppressed by their so called government of freedom.
      I also have the answers to the current generated economic crisis. This is a peaceful gathering for YHWH our God. But you might want to bring a firearm just in case. After all let us not forget what they did to us in Waco. This is not a call for a riot. This is a peaceful gathering. MAY OUR LORD JESUS BE WITH YOU FRIEND.

      I realize it is off topic please forgive me. Go to my web page for more thekingoftexas.com

      some dude Reply:

      I have read almost all of these comments and it has become crystal clear as to why our progress in waking people up these days has been a slow motion process. It’s because more then half of you anti-social computer warriors are fuckin nuts . From reclaiming our “sovereign citizenship” threw adhesion contracts to gathering in beautiful Waco Texas as Christains W/guns to get answers from the king. I mean f*ck !
      To me the only purpose these types of people serve is to make shit harder for people like me and wikity, and uchikoma ( who seem the only rational ones posting here) . Yeah so i have to waste time explaining to and showing people i’m not a kook .
      Go outside rain or shine and get some fresh air mutherf*ck*r…..

      uchikoma Reply:

      Thanks dude at least somebody noticed!!

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com Reply:

      some dude, the reason the change that is needed to take place has not happen yet is because people like you who think they are awake are in all reality not, the only thing you are doing is listing to some person who says something that whether backed by documented fact, or myth makes no difference to you as long as it makes you feel comfortable. facts are facts, first you have to wake yourself up before you can wake anybody else up, the fact of the matter nothing will change unless you change yourself first. and if your here claiming that your “awake” and still abide by the rules or use any form of “privilege” from the people you are saying are sooo corrupt, you people who are the ones who are the most asleep out of anyone, and there is nothing you text ,that will change that fact, you are basically going to bite the hand that feeds you, the diffrence is that if i ever have to bite, it will be biting a hand that gives me no “privileges” because after self inquired awareness of how this corporation bought America, personally i don’t need or want anything from them

      uchikoma Reply:

      How can you accuse us of only listening to one person – when you could not possibly know that information unless you are a stalker – and only quote from one dubious document (that I followed from your other posts)??????????

      Axewinder Reply:

      This argument is going nowhere. Hammernail do you really think the globalist give a shit about your birthright Pleeeeease!!! Your a number and you have been since birth. Give it up!

      samuel adams Reply:

      To the so-called “king of TX”:
      Please speak for yourself when you say “let us not forget what they did to us in Waco.”
      I’ve been a Christian for 33 years and would NEVER consider myself as part of the “us” of the David Koresh cult in Waco. What the feds did there was criminal, yes, and as Americans we should all be outraged over the criminal violations of civil liberties committed in Waco, but true Christians could never consider themselves as part of that “us” you speak of, for the Koresh cult members and David Koresh himself were involved in pedophilia, rape, lies, deceit, kidnapping, polygamy, heresy, indoctrination, mind control, and ultimately murder.

      Whatever you’re doing in the name of Christ, it sounds wack! You’re going to “show” yourself? Who do you think you are? You sound delusional.

      You say you have the answers? Only Jesus has the answers, and they’re all in His Book. You should check it out. Anyone who really knows Jesus Christ already has the “answers”. I don’t need any human to give me any answers. But thanks anyway.

      COCKSTRONG Reply:

      You’re the retard Jacob. Do you know who Jacob was in the Bible? Probably not judging by your God-hating diatribe and by your foolish attempt to appear wise by referencing a God-hating judge and court. Your foolish wisdom is ridiculous in the eyes of God. But, you should read about Jacob in the OT. Since you are obviously totally depraved, I will make this easy.

      Jacob’s account is found in the first book of the Old Testament of the Holy Bible, known as “Genesis”…Start in Chapter 30, that’s right after chapter 29 and 1 before 31. Are you with me so far?

      For someone who hates God so much it’s wierd you kept your birth name…JACOB!

      some dude Reply:

      I second that !

      Margie Reply:

      Thank you for your timely and intelligent comments, We have to save ourselves. not rely on God, Can you recommend a more intellectual site thn this one?

      COCKSTRONG Reply:

      Look, there are sissies on this site crying about what I am saying and all these sissies do is complain about what other people say. Complete hypocrisy. I am on freedom’s side, but America’s freedom is not the ultimate prize people. Get that through your skulls. True freedom is not derived from your Constitution and Bill of Rights or your firearms. There is only ONE who can make you all free. Yet, you choose to spurn Him at every turn. Bow your knee and cry out to Him and He says He WILL answer you. Or, continue to devise your own stupid, prideful plans which, apart from Christ, will get you nothing in the end but spiritual death, and physical death. You say you are for free speech, but clearly you are a liar. I don’t make you look bad, you do a fine job of that yourself. I am a vessel, here to rail at you in the hopes that you are drawn to Him who created you. It’s called preaching. God chose preaching. You don’t recognize it, because there are too many fakes out there. It makes no sense to sinful man which is why your default is name-calling. You have no defense or excuse. And that ticks you off. Don’t get mad at me. Go to the source. Rail at God. He’s the one you have an issue with. And by the way, I take nothing you say personally. Jesus faced this His whole life. The world hated Him and they will hate me too, and all true Biblical Christians, all throughout history, have faced persecution. Many of the real heroes of the faith died. Many more will die.

      You silly little boy. You’re not a warrior. You’ll be the first one with his hands in the air when they come for you. You’ll do whatever they say and beg for more. You have no chance without God. Get your spiritual house in order before it’s too late. That is how you love someone. Tell them what the cure is. If I hated you people I would not be here. Get right with God!

      samuel adams Reply:

      To Cockstrong……….uh, your blog name is a bit ironic in light of the beliefs you espouse. You really ought to be ashamed to name the name of Christ with a handle like “cockstrong”. Who are you kidding? Not God, that’s for sure. Kinda creepy dude.

      Common Sense Reply:

      BECAUSE TEENS WANT TO JUST LIVE LIFE, WE COULD GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. Apparently, you haven’t even gone out of your house since the 90’s due to “Chemtrails.” You didn’t even your sentences with a period mark, therefore, you have been “dumbed down.” And homeschooling can teach you anything, you can have reptilian-believing idiots like you teaching them about God or how the Government is out to kill you and make your bodies into lamps. And, you also spelled DAMN wrong, you sir are an idiot. Good day ni66ers.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Picking on someone spelling is low. Especially when the man is making a valid point – You don’t know about the constitution. You confirm that by saying you don’t give a shit about the constitution. Its not like you know the constitution and then disagree with it or are indifferent. YOU HAVE A STRONG OPINION OF A DOCUMENT YOU KNOW KNOTHING ABOUT.

      That makes you an animal, as you must be operating on instinct and not reason.

      You then go on to make snide remarks like the child you are.

      You are the one who is retarded and dumb’d down.

      PS I have used the ‘ (apos) correctly. I have a deeper knowledge of English than you as all you need it for is to write your application to the Obama youth.

      uchikoma Reply:

      Oh and if private schooling is so bad why do the elite of the world send their shitty little children to our (US/UK) private schools??????????

      Paul Reply:

      Because private schools are a stepping stone to power. The actual education is just as bad as public.

      mike Reply:

      Please cite two or more cases as you have stated as “proven in court”

      Titan Reply:

      This 14th Amendment/Sovereignty issue is bullcrap. Its called Patriot Mythology. Show us proof that this so called method has prevented anyone from attacks from the IRS, or any government agencey for that matter. Just complete nonsense. There is no sure-fire way to beat the IRS. They simply are criminals and will do anything they want to do and the courts let them get away with it. The only real way to prevent the government from taking your stuff is not owning anything in your name. Also, anyone who bad mouths Ron Paul is a communist. And is also a hermaphadite.

      Nimrod Reply:

      You say “sovereign citizenship” as if it’s something tangible. Forget this non-violent revolution bullshit. We don’t need to “reclaim” anything. Our right to religion, free speech, press, to bear arms etc. THEY’RE RIGHTS. Not PRIVILEGES. Do you realize that it would only take a fraction of the American people to make a successful revolution?

      August Reply:

      He does need help, but Please don’t make him convert to the 12-Step Religion and ABSOLUTELY no group therapy! Go ahead and fill him up with those mind-frying meds; I don’t think they’d do any more damage than already present!

    2. Im Really Confused Says:


      Who is this “Ron Paul” character?

      I watch TV all the time and never see or hear that name… only Obama, and I think McCain… is that his name?

      Anyway…March Madness is on.! There is no NWO… only beer and weekend sports on TV.

      I am so free…I actually have a job.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      IM REALLY CONFUSED: you certainly are or is that sarcasm?

      Dillon Z. Reply:

      thats just sarcasm

      roaddog Reply:

      sarcasm

      Rocky Horror Reply:

      fantasism.

      some dude Reply:

      If you have to ask you are mildly retarded…..

      uchikoma Reply:

      Beware the ides of march…………..

    3. TimeIZshort Says:

      How? So many sites are scams.

    4. Irish Cherokee All American Says:

      More sweat during peace, less blood during war.

    5. TimeIZshort Says:

      hammernail1976@hotmail.com or any legit sovereigns, please respond with specifics.

      free time Reply:

      TimeIZshort…

      Start looking into “Commercial Redemption” immediately.

    6. burgerkingtoxicbuttblaster Says:

      The other thing. Infowars is so successful I think because AJ is so aggressive on exposing the corruption. Ron paul on the otherhand takes the high road and that is why his voice isnt so well heard. Get out there and start kicking teeth in I say.

      Extremecheese Reply:

      SEER the living fortune cookie .. Hey SEER isnt it time for your YODA MIND MELD with the beings of love and light ? I hate these ZEN types they are so FAKE

      flower scent Reply:

      I have a flower scent… ahhhhhh…that feels better.

    7. Alex works for the Easter Bunny Says:

      Alex, amidst all of this tyrannical, tragic, and sad state of affairs we are up against, I appreciate your sense of humor during your talk shows. I wish I could get you on the radio here in Salt Lake. I do most of my listening to the “news” when I am driving.

    8. luke Says:

      why mr paul? do a little bit of research next time phil

    9. DaDa Says:

      IMO, there is something Terribly Wrong with the whole, “Ron Paul,” thing.

      Before you knee-jerk and respond swinging, please consider:

      A. He has ZERO to say about our being chemtrailed into myriad sicknesses, afflictions, “conditions.” Let alone the Ionospheric Heating aspect, i.e., Trick Climate Manipulation to set YOU up for a carbon tax. There is something very, VERY wrong with his silence.

      B. He has ZERO to say about 9-11. I saw this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

      a number of times on the day of 9-11. There is something very, VERY wrong with his silence.

      Now, from a spiritual energy harvesting aspect he DOES:

      C. Tend to a harvesting of energies of those who buy into his reality tunnel, hence STRENGTHENING the probability of that very reality tunnel coming to pass. Notice that the targets are those that are very passionate about their beliefs, hence generating an abundance (compared to many people) of energy THAT IS being harvested and put to work… to the very detriment of those harvested.

      PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING, AS IT VERY IMPORTANT! Please excuse the caps, wanted to be sure you read this last part, as it will show you much:

      That is NOT to say that there is not truth to what he says with regard to monetary system.
      Far from it.
      That Very Truth is used as a Carrier Wave to ride in a Constricted Version Of Reality (i.e., no chemtrails, no real deal on 9-11).

      This is an old trick to manipulate minds. Use A Dollop of Truth. This Truth has a natural resonance with some people. It opens you up. Then use this truth as a carrier wave to ride in the lie. This lie is the poison. It’s equivalent to having a beautiful, tasty steak served up with some steak sauce dribbled on the top of it that is sure to kill.

      Word.

      Now. I will be surprised, and pleasantly so, if this makes it past the moderator this early afternoon. Another I posted that was very innocuous on another item didn’t make it through. In any case, I will copy this and attempt to post it in the future, at a different time, in a future article/comment/thread when today’s censoring moderator is not on the job if this one shouldn’t pass.

      me too Reply:

      What do you think about the fact that he’s a Mason? Just interested in your view. Your views are very interesting ..

      DaDa Reply:

      me too,

      Please bookmark this page.

      You know how quickly new articles come through.

      I am formulating an answer for you that I hope will shed some light on a number of things.

      DaDa Reply:

      The goal is to enlighten and empower.
      Which leads to Focus.

      Not for everyone.

      Many would rather others do the thinking for them.

      “me too,” will receive some information that has the possibility, the potential, of helping him.
      I am considering how much to say and share on a forum such as this.

      For you, Citizen, you should not feel threatened.
      Nor should others here.

      I am privy to the same information, spiritually/magickly speaking, and experientially, as the highest caliber among those who seek to enslave humanity.

      I know well the tricks, the ins and outs.

      There are those who study from the outside, deemed occultists.
      Icke and Watt are such.
      They do not have experiential knowledge, and so get it wrong.
      The former through throwing something into the physical (the entire reptilian thing) that is spiritual in nature.
      The latter through having zero experiential knowledge, wisdom, in things he purports to be an expert, an authority on.

      Both lead astray, dilute strength, mute proper focus.

      The unveiling of the, “Ron Paul,” thing is, when you examine it, Spot On.

      Don’t be upset that you were deceived.

      The entire world is a dark place, with a light here and there.

      My job is to shed some light, to light a match here and there.

      me too Reply:

      I’m looking forward to your reply.
      Best.

      Margie Reply:

      YOU BETTTER START SOON WITH THE MATCH CAUSE YOU ARE IN TOTAL DRKENSS, WATT AND iCKE ARE ON TO SOMETHIN .

    10. brick yard Says:

      we all need a leader in this fight to take us back down the right road. please Dr,paul we need ur help and guidance instruct us in the next step lots of us have woken up to the lies, but now we need an action on what to do ……….god bless u ron paul and the fight for liberty……….

      Extremecheese Reply:

      SEER bought a TONY robbins tape at a yard sale and was raised on fortune cookies

      A Commoner Reply:

      http://saveyourmoneyday.blogspot.com

    11. Married to 1/3 Native American Says:

      Instead of investing into the 401K and have your money sucked away from a bad economy. People started to place their retirement’s futures into U.S. Treasury bonds to safe guard their assets. What I’m hearing from Ron Paul…is screw the U.S Treasury Bonds?…Sometimes I think Ron Paul is a illuminati conspirator.

    12. James A. Burt Says:

      “Contraction” is a better word. “Depression” implies that there will be a recovery.

    13. 7deviations Says:

      Please remove the flashing aspect of the Obama Deception advertisement. It makes it impossible for me to view the web site, it makes me physically ill. Keep the ad. Just remove the rapid red and white strobe effect that is the same effect that is known to induce seizures.

      PLEASE.

      DaDa Reply:

      Use Firefox browser from mozilla.com .

      Use the Flashblock add-on for this browser.

      Both are free.

      It is unfortunate that you are made physically ill by this sort of thing.

      It would be equally unfortunate if you did not avail yourself of FREE tools that will render you immune.

      To ask someone to change what has been effective on his site without availing yourself of an easy remedy on your own smacks of hubris and inability to fend for self.
      I hope this is not the case, and that you simply did not previously know that there is an easy, quick, and cost-effective (free) remedy for your problem with this site.

      Caught Another One Reply:

      So, what is this fascination you have with a, “wazoo,” Citizen?

      Do you fantasize to the extent that any glimmer of intellect is met with your unhealthy focus on, “wazoo.”

      Are you intimidated by someone smarter than yourself and seek to attempt to bring everyone who is, down to your level?

      Such focus on, “wazoo,” is very animalistic, as in low order of human.
      You know… marking territory with fecal matter and such.

      March Onward, Citizen Wazoo, your tree beckons for your raised leg.

      Bow wow… decided to close it in your own language. Woof!

      uchikoma Reply:

      lol

      rogdix Reply:

      Citizen, naughty, naughty now! Be good and eat your broccoli.

      gordholio Reply:

      Install Firefox.
      Install the stylish or greasemonkey extension.
      Search google for “userstyles infowars” and install the Infowars Cleanup script.
      This will get rid of ALL the flashing stuff. Also the carousel feature stories (which is not really needed, since all the stories are repeated with the links).

      I was having problems in Ubuntu with Infowars freezing my Firefox, so I did this. Works well.

    14. Dee Says:

      This exactly matches what Lindsey Williams said that the economic collaspe will be so great that it will take YEARS to come out! 15 years sounds about right. How do you prepare for a 15 or 20 year depression. The answer: YOU CAN’T!! God helps us all!

    15. Alex Jones Is Awesome! Says:

      Our Republic is falling. More information on MIAC, HR845 and all of Alexes movies, uncut at http://www.thegrandawakening.com Also more clips of illuminati, NWO 911 and MORE!

    16. when will you listen Says:

      This original article is published on march 22, 2009.

    17. roaddog Says:

      Bob Chapman says by the end of this year it will implode.

    18. Extremecheese Says:

      The hell it doesnt SEER .. You want a crowd of people to listen you gotta be loud. Taking the high road does not work anymore

    19. SEER Says:

      look not at the evil around you look at the evil within you it comes out of you when you break wind. The smell is bad reeeal bad . Some of us enjoy the smell of our toxic butt blasts

      flower scent Reply:

      I have a flower scent… ahhhhhh…that feels better.

    20. slamminsammysmith Says:

      http://www.freedom-school.com

    21. nader paul kucinich gravel Says:

      15 years sounds about right.

      (plenty of profit for the rich to pay off)

    22. wooblues Says:

      The true ,too see the future,that is a gift alright. The agents of change will never let it come back,The future will depend on your age, I will not see this so called recovery in 15years or so.

    23. Eye Despise Says:

      What ever happened to the monroe doctrine? We have European/French bloodlines all throughout our government…I’d say thats quite a bit more than interfering in the western hemisphere.

    24. A Commoner Says:

      What webpage?

    25. A Commoner Says:

      Sorry about that Dude, I’m fairly new to how these posts work and after I pressed enter I noticed your Title had a hyperlink, clicked on it and tada. Anyway, cool site but what’s your solution?? Here is the best I’ve found.
      http://saveyourmoneyday.blogspot.com

    26. 7deviations Says:

      Please remove the flashing aspect of the Obama Deception advertisement. It makes it impossible for me to view the web site, it makes me physically ill. Keep the ad. Just remove the rapid red and white strobe effect that is the same effect that is known to induce seizures.

      PLEASE.

    27. alexfan301 Says:

      I think Ron is right again, if the people let the bankers go for just another year or 2 they are going to cause so much damage. they are going to shut down the entire ecomeny, claim they own everything, throw everyone out of their houses, tax away and steal any wealth the people have, put all the farms out of business, and baloon the government, it will take 15 years to straighten out this mess.

    28. Common Sense Says:

      Don’t put your name out here! The Reptilians and Freemasons are going to rip you to shreds and make you into couches for them to sit on!

    29. jebus Says:

      I have examined all the known superstitions of the Word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world …

      The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind … to filch wealth and power to themselves. [They], in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.
      Thomas Jefferson

      The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites. To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.
      Thomas Jefferson

      Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins … and you will have sins in abundance. I would not dare to dishonor my Creator’s name by [attaching] it to this filthy book [the Bible].
      Thomas Paine

      For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate error so long as reason is free to combat it.
      Thomas Jefferson

      It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God.
      Thomas Jefferson

      Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
      Thomas Jefferson

      Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.
      Thomas Paine

      I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
      Thomas Paine

      My country is the world, and my religion is to do good.
      Thomas Paine

      Let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religions.
      George Washington

      Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.
      George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792; from George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel Press, 1983, p. 726]

      There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.
      George Washington, address to Congress, 8 January, 1790

      Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause.
      George Washington, letter to Sir Edward Newenham, June 22, 1792

      …the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction.
      George Washington, 1789, responding to clergy complaints that the Constitution lacked mention of Jesus Christ, from The Godless Constitution: The Case Against Religious Correctness, Isacc Kramnick and R. Laurence Moore W.W. Norton and Company 101-102

      If they are good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa or Europe; they may be Mahometans, Jews, Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists….
      George Washington, to Tench Tighman, March 24, 1784, when asked what type of workman to get for Mount Vernon, from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover

      To give opinions unsupported by reasons might appear dogmatical.
      George Washington, to Alexander Spotswood, November 22, 1798, from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover

      …I beg you be persuaded that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution. George Washington, to United Baptists Churches of Virginia, May, 1789 from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover

      As the contempt of the religion of a country by ridiculing any of its ceremonies, or affronting its ministers or votaries, has ever been deeply resented, you are to be particularly careful to restrain every officer from such imprudence and folly, and to punish every instance of it. On the other hand, as far as lies in your power, you are to protect and support the free exercise of religion of the country, and the undisturbed enjoyment of the rights of conscience in religious matters, with your utmost influence and authority.
      George Washington, to Benedict Arnold, September 14, 1775 from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover

      Nathaniel Reply:

      A jebus. Before popping up all the “Quotes” Please do some research on who Jesus Christ really was. Instead of placing lame pathetic rhetoric on views of Christianity. Its not Hard!!!! Jesus Christ died for your sins so that you could have live and be free from the bondage of sin and the enemy. Accept Jesus into your heart for this is the only was to save yourself of what is to come. I’ll pray that God will reveal Himself to you and removed the negative thought you portray of Him and Christianity. God Bless!

      jesus christ Reply:

      jesus christ nathaneil enough with your christian bullshit ok, this isnt a religious forum u stupid monkey. jesus was a piece of shit ok!! now tell me how i’m goin to hell i need a good laugh.

      OMG Reply:

      Jesus was a what????? REALLY? Hmmmm…..Mark your own words moron. You will regret it one day!!!! Mark my words! Jesus loves you anyway!

      Axewinder Reply:

      I agree jesus saved the sins of all mankind and everyone is pissed because it burns it burns! Them demons don’t like to hear about the christ! the son of the living God.
      None of you guys are talking about the real subject at hand. 15 Years of depression. So stop being hypocrites and stickto the subject at hand and I’m talking to you Dumb fuck Bible haters too.

    30. Paul Says:

      “FRONTLNE: Ten Trillion and Counting‏”

      Interesting documentary. Just released today, March 24, 2009.

      Watch the full program online: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/.....lion/view/

      Gregory Reply:

      The only problem I had with that is that when they showed the Republican house members Ron Paul was not there.

    31. informer Says:

      Americans are hardworking, couragous, and humble. I mean poor americans, americans earning less, than $50,000 a year. However you guys cannot blame all american people. The problem of this country is that those earning above $50,000 and more than $100,000 a year side with the oligarchic-front (Democrats, Republicans and capitalist oligarchic ideology)

      What USA needs really is a revolution of the poor, of the poor americans earning less than $20,000 a year, of the poor elderly, of the americans who rely on food-stamps, which are indeed, the best americans, the real patriotic, revolutionary and who have nothing to lose except their chains !!

      The rest, of Americans, those who have stable jobs and who earn more than $30,000 a year are too happy with the US capitalist system. Just forget about them.

      We need a movement of the poor US citizens.

      .

    32. jebus believes in fairy tales & myths! Says:

      Funny. “Jebus” is the pagan name of what eventually came to be known as Jerusalem. Fitting, because just like those ancient heathen Canaanites, you (jebus) worship the false god of SELF. And you listen to the author of self-worship, THE DEVIL, through fools like Thomas Paine whom you quote so profusely as though he had anything good or profound to say!

      But just FYI, Thomas Paine confessed on his deathbed that he had been “conquered by Jesus the Nazarene”, and cried out in agony as he was dying, with his dying breath making it known that he was DESCENDING INTO A BURNING DEVIL’S HELL! He acknowledged that he had been a FOOL to publish such religious trash as “The Age Of Reason”, and HAD to admit what was evident: as an INFIDEL (the Biblical term for an UNBELIEVER), he had DAMNED AND DOOMED HIMSELF, and that he was dying WITHOUT CHRIST, and thus WITHOUT HOPE ETERNALLY!

      So, you want to be foolish enough to quote someone like that to support your ungodly “unbelief”, have at it! And like Thomas Paine, YOU TOO shall perish eternally IN HELL!!!

      jesus christ Reply:

      thats great cuz hell isnt real, if it does its on earth. christianity is a death cult!!

      COCKSTRONG Reply:

      Great stuff above. I second you Nathaniel. That said it all!

      It’s only God Almighty who could cause something so beautiful and powerful to be spoken. Keep preaching brother. To Him be the glory!

      All the infidels can do is scoff. They cannot even put together complete sentences. Pathetic.

      SAGEBRUSH Reply:

      As it exists today? Maybe… But would it not be a better use of time and energy figuring out how in the hell we (our own personal families 1st) are going to weather this shit storm heading our way. On second thought,, once the internet “2″ is in, none of this discusion will continue…. So I guess we had better get it out of system while we still can.

      gordholio Reply:

      I have no idea who this Jebus is. I believe and follow Jesus, not some phony.

    33. DaDa Says:

      Note:

      You may need to shorten input in find function in first browser window to:

      Like all the Mysteries of Magism

      In the second:

      The Sage prefers to preserve it in its natural envelopes

      Best of to you

    34. jesus christ Says:

      ok here i am. ur an idiot who wrote a bunch of shit that nobody is gonna read. stfu about me i am a piece of shit.

    35. Nathaniel Says:

      WOW!!! Praise the LORD!!!! To whomever wrote the looooooong comment. I just wanted to say that it BLESSED me. Thank you.

      To anyone that skims over this “READ” the long post above!!!!!

      Every single bit of it is true. The reason I say its true is because I have experience the power of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and until you receive Him into your heart you will be a naive, bitter, hateful, worldly, lost, helpless soul until you receive the ONE TRUE GOD into your heart. PRAISE BE TO THE MOST HIGH!!!!! THE ALMIGHTY!!!!!!!!! THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!!! THE ALPHA & OMEGA!!!!!! THE BEGINNING AND THE END!!!!!!!!!! JESUS!!!!!!!!!

      ——-O and the guy that calls himself jesus christ. I did read the whole thing and i can consent to every bit of it as TRUE. I pray, that for someone who thinks that its write to put my JESUS on a petastol with all the other sadist, blaspheming religions is a coward to realize the TRUTH and will be a server of —-satan—- until they find JESUS.

    36. steve Says:

      God please help these warped people !
      and… whocares if I spell a word wrong.
      Reclaiming your sovereign citizenship is a waste of time.
      I have friends that did this and I think they regret that they did.
      They always say the same thing, ‘do your own research’. I think they say this cause that’s what they were told to do and it made them feel smart and empowered for a short time. Reclaiming your sovereign citizenship involves recording all kinds of papers and documents in court mainly, “an Affidavit of Truth’ stating that basically ‘you know what’s really going on and I’m calling you out on it and if the judge can prove you wrong, please do… if the jugde doesn’t… which they never do, it becomes truth and fact in a court of law. Then after 30 days when you get no rubuttal the petitioner feels like he was right and then starts getting in trouble with the local police for driving around without license plates and then in trouble wit the IRS for not paying taxes. It’s stupid and a waste of time… most people end up in jail for a while and hiding afterward. The Waco incident was a perfect example of what could happen. Koresh wasn’t a child molester, he was a sovereign citizen. Ed and Elaine Brown from New Hampshire… same shit. These are activist minded people, much like yourselves… Don’t you think that if there was really something we could do about the corruption in our country, we would have do it by now ? There are to many people and to many idiots clouding everything up.

      Ron Paul use to be in the Libertarian Party but switched over to Republican to get a more positive exposure. I bet he would do a great job as our President. Also, keep this in mind.. our government reps are constantly under the microscope and have to watch every word that comes out of thier mouths. Mr. Paul has to watch what he say’s if he wants to get elected in 2012. If he started blabbing abut conspiracy theories of chem trails and ‘the gov blew up the WTC he would never get elected. I bet he would after he gets elected.

    37. Margie Says:

      God is not going to save your buts. We have to save our own COuntry and ourselves.

    38. MOREWORKLESSJERKS Says:

      Look it doesn’t matter all the petty arguements are wasting time and energy. We need people to think of an actual plan of action stop posting unimportant things. Post a real plan of action to get things back in order as how our fore fathers wanted. Post a plan so our children will not have to suffer stop posting this nonsense about nonsense if you are here you are somewhat awake. With that being said we need to come together and fight as a unit not as a individual. No one man has won a war alone, lets come together and fight the people who are against us not the people on this website but the people ruining our country, ruining our children’s future, ruining a chance for a better life. I am for war, I am for revolution but I refuse to be apart of this ignorance that this website spews from almost every ignorant aspect. Damnit people this is a battle for our lives and instead of fighting each other over nonsense we need to take this fight to the proper enemy.

    39. Square Hit Says:

      I realize that, “tripartate,” was once acceptable use.
      You date yourself.
      You must be quite old.
      The current dictionaries reference, “tripartite.”

      Everything you say is true, accurate.

      This very site is a harvesting point as well, and the participants are literally working themselves up to unknowingly bring upon themselves the very reality they fear most.

      I don’t believe that Alex is aware enough to realize that this is the case.
      Few are.

      This action is unintentional.

      However, the facts remain that the people here are working feverishly to paint a future for themselves that is very bleak.

      Would that all would wake up.
      But such is not meant to be.

      Ah, the end times.

      Group, don’t look at the flash.

    40. Over The Target Says:

      mind controlled goons to ‘follow orders’:

      flashback:

      Couple Terrorized, Assaulted and Arrested For Flying an Upside Down U.S. Flag
      Police officer recently returned from Iraq smashed into Kuhn’s home, choked husband.

      She also had a Ron Paul 2008 sign in her yard.

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar.....orized.htm

    41. winston smith Says:

      nullifying your birth certificate means absolutely nothing. makes no difference at all. its like the tax resisters, it makes no difference unless its a mass movement.. a few people not paying taxes does jack shit, just like a few people reclaiming their sovereign citizenship does nothing. i honestly think the only way to fight them is everyone stop paying their income tax

      True dat Reply:

      Well a SERIOUS public interest group needs to consolidate about 90% of America’s debt under an umbrella and then let the banks try and come claim it against legitimate resistance. Then again greed and ignorance (easy loans instead of working for what you want) are the root cause of all this bullshit anyway. Maybe nobody deserves to be saved! Maybe people didn’t think first and now they can pay the piper for their greed! Maybe everyone is getting what they had coming to them anyway. Maybe they were manipulated because they are MORONS and that fate can not be controlled when the stupid are out witted by the smart. They are elite for a reason and you are sitting around crying about how they have controlled the entire grid since day one? That’s not going to change ever! With all the cry baby wimpering I hear these days it still kills me that nobody owns up to their part in any of this. They come to Alex Jones’ site and whatever other outlet they have to try and blame the Illumninati or whatever other ghost that they can pin their blame onto. Jesus Christ people YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! You can go on and on acting like you had no part in your own demise but you know deep down that you did! You took a loan that you couldn’t afford or whatever and now you want the world to bend over to accomidate your lack of foresight? I say fuck you all for acting like spoiled little children! Once you own up to the responsability of being a human being then you can start to work your way out of this mess. Until that time if you are intent on blaming others for your problems you are getting nowhere!

    42. the family idiot Says:

      Hammernail, I’ve read about those things but don’t quite understand them. & I truly cannot afford a lawyer who 1) understands and 2) is on my side . I’m trying to assert my rights, but the “laws” are against it… & it sure looks to me like the “laws” were crafted without allowing me the possibility of appeal ! I do grasp that a lot of “laws” are enforced which are not Constitutional. But when the legal system itself ignores and tramples on the Constitution, how do I force the legal system back into the right road ? ? (not a rhetorical question. I really do want to know how.)
      Thanks for speaking up. Please try to ignore the ignorant who are rude to you; eventually they will see the truth, just like everyone else. Too late for them to do anything about it — but at least you will be proven right.

    43. gordholio Says:

      Does anyone really know how long this recession (or some say even depression) will last? I don’t think so.
      It could last for a number of years or things could get better next year – nobody really knows for sure.

    44. OMG Says:

      People are funny! We do the same things over and over. We love to bash eachother, believe that we know more than the next. We think our opinions mean more than everyone else’s. It’s what makes humans great! But when you reduce your debates to bashing, trashing and moronic behavior that is when you are reduced to trash yourself. And your debate is null and void. People we are a beautiful race. Why don;t you embrace that, encourage that!!!! Instead of being a complete idiot. Live and let live!!!! Stop trying to change everyone to believe what you believe. I am a Christian. Who is anti-religion. Make sense? I have my own personal relationship with God. I don’t preach becuase that is not my job. Some Christians beleive that. but I know it is not my calling to be a “John the Baptist” If that is yours knock yourself out! But all of you haters out there. Leave Christians alone!!! If you expect me to tolerate your sexuality, religious beliefs, like Muslim, Buddism, etc…. then tolerate me as well. All of you debaters, go on with your bad sellves. you guys are a wealth of Knowledge! But use it wisely!!! Be a better you for God’s sake! Use that knowledge for the greater good, not demolish someones character!!!!

    45. SAGEBRUSH Says:

      This is all very interesting. We would all do well to realize that mankind being what it is will naturally spawn “men” that have an unquenchable desire for power. These “men” will seek out any and all means by which to obtain thier power. Formal religion, government, laws, ect ect. have always been used by such people. This is not to say that in thier begining (religion ,gov) they were not pure. Quite the opposite. However, with all such institutions, the biggest risk is that they will be subverted to be used as a club against those who created them in the first place.
      On another note, while we squable between ourselves about such inane things as punctuation, spelling and personal religious beliefs, those at the forefront of our destruction are lol all the way to the bank (the few that are still solvent)!

    46. Rich Says:

      I think there are several people on payroll who REALLY want to cloud this issue! Also 1 or 2 of the dullest knives in the drawer.

    47. David Lee Says:

      it’s going to get worse before it gets worse.

    48. planning4acrash Says:

      I love it, how they put “Fiat” in inverted comma’s, suggesting that this is a word made up, or of a meaning created by Ron Paul. Just laughable!!

      Wonderful that the FT is having to acknowledge Ron Paul’s genius. Just imagine how amazing things would be, with Ron Paul as President, Peter Schiff as Treasury Secratary, nobody in defence, because all the troops are bought home. Just imagine it, sweet liberty.

    49. Learnedthehardway2000 Says:

      Seems like all the signs point to a coming devaluation of the dollar sooner or later. I have an uncomfortable feeling that could it be that OBummer’s excess spending is only to bankrupt the US to speed up the entry into a global goverment?

      I try not to think too much about it.