Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, Nov 6, 2008

Texas Congressman and 2008 presidential candidate Ron Paul has warned that the euphoria surrounding the election of Barack Obama combined with the overwhelming fear of major international crises could facilitate a cataclysmic shift toward a new world order.
Appearing live on the Alex Jones show earlier today, the Congressman spoke of a feeling of dread surrounding the change of guard both in the White House and on Capitol Hill:
“I do feel it but I don’t think it’s brand new, I didn’t wake up with it, I’ve had it for a while, I don’t think the election was a surprise, but the rhetoric is getting pretty strong and they are getting very bold.” he commented.
Speaking on the stage management of the election, and calling it a “huge distraction” from real issues, the Congressman outlined how both candidates were pre-positioned by the elite interests with the knowledge that either would satisfactorily serve their agenda:
“I think McCain was obviously a back up candidate in case something happened where Obama didn’t win, they’d have been satisfied with McCain, but they have been positioning Obama for a long long time.”
“This started even before he announced he was running. Anybody who would have gotten that much favorable coverage for so long, you know that the plans are laid for him to be the individual that’s going to be taking care of the corporate elite.” the Congressman continued.
Paul also warned that Democrats gains within the House and the Senate make for a particularly worrying situation of absolute power, similar to that held by the Republican party eight years ago.
“Just as a Republican Congress wouldn’t say boo to a Republican Congress, you know that the Democratic Congress is NEVER going to stand up.”
“I think it is very dangerous and the first year is going to be the most dangerous year.” Paul stated. “Just think of Bush’s first year, he also had the 9/11 thing that he could use to scare everybody to death. And Obama will use the financial crisis, which will get worse, and there will be more military skirmishes around the world.” Paul asserted.
The Congressman also warned that many Republican representatives may go along with Obama just to win favor with the electorate and be seen to follow popular opinion.
Commenting on the much touted “International crisis” that luminaries such as Colin Powell, Joe Biden and Zbigniew Brzezinski have all guaranteed will occur within weeks of Obama entering the White House, the Congressman stated that he believes it may be a catalyst for a shift toward world government:
“I think it’s going to be an announcement of a new monetary order, and they’ll probably make it sound very limited, they’re not going to say this is world government, even though it is if you control the world’s money and you control the military, which they do indirectly.”
“A world central bank, worldwide regulation and world control of the whole system, of all the commodities and all the natural resources, what else can you call it other than world government?”
“Obama wouldn’t be there if he didn’t toe the line, and when the meeting starts on November 15th for the new monetary system, this could be the beginning of the end of what’s left of our national sovereignty.” Paul said, also warning that the global media are already hailing Obama as the world’s leader.
With Obama having previously announced that he will shift military attention to Pakistan, the Congressman also warned that the president elect will, thanks to the previous administration, have the necessary precedent to escalate the war on terror:
“It’s the philosophy of the Bush doctrine, which was that we have the right to preemptively strike anybody and then he even expanded that recently by saying we don’t have to invade and conquer, but we have the right to go in and bomb anybody without their permission, and that’s why we go into Pakistan and Syria, which are acts of war. So they have the tools to do it and the sentiment and most Americans are oblivious to what is happening.”
Paul also suggested that any escalation could be facilitated by false flag events such as Gulf of Tonkin style incidents.
Urging listeners not to lose faith in the campaign for liberty and the quest to restore and the Republic, Ron Paul spoke of reason to look ahead:
“We have to look for sources of optimism… ultimately though all that happens to us is a result of philosophy and beliefs and convictions and that is where I think we have made some inroads. We have drawn attention to the importance of monetary policy, the importance of the central bank, the importance of how government causes so much problems, it’s just that we’re in the minority.” Paul said.
“We have to continue to do what we are doing, you are in the business of passing on and spreading information, that, to me, is most crucial, getting more people engaged, more people understanding what the issues are, nothing else is more important than that. Then when you see an opportunity we have to turn this into political action.” the Congressman concluded.
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November 6th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Good always Wins over Evil.
It’s all “Hype”.
WE CAN ALL UNITE AS ONE.
That’s what the bad guys want the very least,… Peace.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:19 am
PEOPLE- WE HAVE TO REACH DOWN AND PULL WHATEVER OUT OF OUR ASS IT TAKES TO WIN. ARM YOURSELF AND FAMILY. LIVE FREE OR DIE – IT’S NOT JUST A SLOGAN ANYMORE
November 6th, 2008 at 10:22 am
A new gold-based dollar? A lengthy, but highly enlightening read:
Death and Resurrection of the US Dollar
http://www.globalresearch.ca/i.....cleId=3490
November 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
I’ve been depressed ever since Ron Paul dropped out of the presidential race because then I knew that there will be no significant CHANGE for the better… It’s a sad reality that the only truly qualified individuals, such as Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and the independent party candidates were never given a shot, ignored, and laughed at, when at the same time the globalist ones such as Obama, Giuliani, Thomson, Clinton, Huckabee and Romney were hailed and praised….. The situation seems hopeless because now we will have one party rule with no opposition from the Republicans (not that they actually oppose anything!) and that we now have a globalist who is actually very popular with the people and more importantly, the MEDIA… I do see some positives when I look at the anti-Obama vote and see that it’s almost 50-50 so Obama doesn’t really have a mandate and the overwhelming support the media is claiming!!!!! Now is the time to turn to the McCain supporters and educate them about what’s happening, because at least they didn’t like Obama so we can work with them. Even though the majority is partying and crying and laughing as if they saw Jesus come down, there are a lot of disenfranchised people who are very upset with this situation so we should work with the anti-Obama voters first before we turn to the Obama supporters. Obama supporters are in a state of euphoria so they won’t pay attention untill something starts going terribly wrong and they actually start reading up on Obama’s proposals. Time will prove that Obama was the wrong person for president.
Bill Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:13 am
I just recently got online and I have to say I am so glad to see so many people out there seeing the things I see. Ron Paul was the only candidate who was not bought off by the banksters and he needs all the support we can give him. I read a book back in the late eighties that really changed my life, “The Unseen Hand”, by Epperson in which he lays out the “conspiratorial” view of history as opposed to the accidental view. Something like this is all it takes sometimes to wake people up to the fact that they are being enslaved. Much thanks to Ron Paul, Alex Jones and the late great Aaron Russo and to all exposers of lies and speakers of truth.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Everyone out there should buy a copy, or two, or twenty copies of The Revolution by Dr. Ron Paul and read it yourself if you have not already, and pass it along to a friend or three. Sadly, many people out there still have not realized that they’re not alone in their opinions and convictions about the path our country is heading down, the wrong one. They may know that something is wrong, but most people’s world view comes from the corporate media, so they can’t put their finger on exactly what it is that just isn’t right. I know this, because I was one of these people for a long time. Dr. Paul gave me hope and showed me that there are still some good people who are trying their best to do what is right for this country, even in our government. I have already gone through five copies, because I keep giving them out and telling people to pass it on to someone else who might be interested. It’s a small price to pay for liberty. Viva la rEVOLution!
November 6th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Stop violating the gosh dang Logan Act….stop all your damn secret societies….and stop letting banksters control and profit from creating our currency or face our wrath.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:31 am
cool
November 6th, 2008 at 10:31 am
We hear “this truth” and “that truth” coming out of the mouths of self serving people… all for their own agenda. Ron Paul may be serving his constitutents fairly.. but realistically he can vote on any isue he like in any way he likes and it will not make a difference and he knows he is safe.
People have become accustomed to Presidents serving two terms and already speaking so with Obama. The last president who only serevd one term was Bush’s fater.. every one elected to the office of President since 1980 has served double terms.
Nothing will change in politics or anything else unless people make it change. That is what is happening now. Blame the “NWO” ..”Zionists” , “Jews”, “Blacks” or anyone else you like.. but do not forget to include one person in the groups you blame. YOURSELF !!!!!
If you are doing nothing about a situation you know is wrong… then you are as responsible as those committing wrong. This goes for any laws or violations of people by a GVT or private group.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:33 am
What the hell is wrong with everyone in this country? Everyone is so superficial and, quite frankly, stupid. How can you all not see that if we don’t really do something to try and stop this s---, and do it soon, that we’re all gonna be beyond screwed?I can’t imagine what this country will be like in 10 years…
November 6th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Being Native American myself, I see that Mr. Obama did not put ANY Native American Leaders from any of the Nations on his team. Nothing has changed, just the name. Mr. Obama will not be for “WE THE PEOPLE”. He has just demonstrated that he is not for “WE THE PEOPLE” by not including the people who were here first, instead. Not one from his chosen few even stood up for the Native American people. Somethings will never change. Frankly, you can call us names (several of you have on this blog site) but we were here first, and how can a man that said he is bring the change this Country needs without starting first with the Native American’s. Yes, your greedy Gov workers have made your $$ disappear before your eyes, let’s talk about what they have done to the Native Americans, we have nothing left, it has all been taken from us, you all live on the land that our fathers freely hunted, you have killed the wildlife and trees that graced the land. You all continue to close your eyes because we are all keeped in a place where no one can see us. Wake up, if you want change, lets start where this all began, stealing from the Native American’s many years ago. Let’s start with making that right.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:42 am
I must say these are troubling times but we sure must not lose hope. Let’s always remember that the power is vested in the PEOPLE. Without us there are no measures for these elites and their satanic proposals. Unite now or be divided and conquered.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Thank you all for your comments. Yes, the financial melt-down continues, as planned – and the “bowing down” of our president-elect to the false gods continues (please check out ‘Obama shows his true colors on Day 1 after winning the election…again’ by American Goy). There is much we can do, friends: many others have suggested this, and in these times the truth bears continuous repeating: let’s work on ‘living within our means’, and if this means getting to know our neighbors, and developing a sense of community, and buying local whenever we can, let’s do that! – if this means avoiding buying things ‘on credit’ as much as possible, let’s do that!- if this means planting a small garden and growing just a few herbs or veggies, let’s do that! – if this means doing a little pre-planning and combining trips to the store so we don’t have to spend as much money on gasoline, let’s do that! Above all, let’s always state our own truth – let us “live NOT the lie”.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Obama is the ANTICHRIST. See PROOF Of His Luciferic Connections
and Horned Devil sign….
http://www.pinnacleheadlinenews.weebly.com
November 6th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Listen to what Ron Paul and Alex Jones have always said… It’s all about getting the information out there.
If everyone gets guns and start a revolution, or kill the pawns and puppets, or the ones responsible, i.e. Rothschilds it’s just going to lead to further polarization and a continuing of their agenda in their favor.
If the majority of people wake up and just say no, especially those in the Military, then they can’t do anything. Just remember, there is more than one way to win a war, and information is what always wins a war.
November 6th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Will I ever forgive Ron Paul for saying in the debates the first part of the year that he didn’t believe that 911 was carried out by our own government!! I can never trust Paul again for saying that as he had the perfect opportunity to respond by saying something like, “We need to have more investigations about what happened on 911″ But he didn’t!! He wimped out and acted like he was totally unaware about 911 and I can never trust him again concerning anything!! And I wonder if he believes that the coming BEAST CHIP WILL BE A GOOD THING OR NOT!!?
November 6th, 2008 at 11:09 am
America is broke. The insolvency will continue to manifest. Bush and his pals will leave a big fat nothing for Barry and his pals. Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! It’s over. I matters not that he’s bought and paid for by the neocon globalists. The cupboard’s bare.
November 6th, 2008 at 11:15 am
This is the point of no return; LOCK AND LOAD!!!!!!
November 6th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Highly valid lyrics from the band First Blood
They drew first blood NOT f---ING ME
The institutions that try to decide how I should live my life
With their traditions they expect me to fall in line, but their will, their way is not for me
Anyone thinking with an open mind is often ostracized
So my decision just to stay within my own kind is justified
They drew first blood it wasn’t me
I didn’t ask for all these things to be part of this world OR PART OF ME
And who are they to protest me when all I want is to live peacefully
JUST LEAVE ME BE
Born in this world with innocent eyes
The more I see it becomes more clear to me I cannot trust powers that be
Taught to embrace with open arms a society that does not have a place for me
I didn’t ask for this social divide and all the racists and the scum of mankind
But now I know, I’m on my own, so leave me be, and I’ll live my own life
This is the way things have to be
All because they drew THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD
As corporations gain control of the world, the more and more the common good is not served
They won’t dictate or brainwash me to buy their dreams and consume ’til I die
The best advice given to me is never serve who is not there to serve me
They drew first blood it wasn’t me
They drew first blood NOT f---ING ME
November 6th, 2008 at 11:29 am
i’m sorry, everybody. we can’t fight the NWO because the book of revelation has to come to pass. the tribulation period has been a predestined situation prophecised in the old testament. but Jesus is coming back soon to clean up this mess. all thru the bible God promises to come back in his second coming. he will make a new heavens & new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness. isaiah 65:17
November 6th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Americans are paralyzed by fear. The economy is in shambles and we continune to be looted by the bankers. The military is being brought home after urban warfare training abroad to enforce martial law here at home. The office of The President of the United States has been highjacked by a fasist illegal immigrant. The Supreme Court supports the treasonous rebellion. The board of directors of the federal reserve should be hanged. The blind are leading the dumb down the road to ruin. I am not one that believes we can cure this with a fix at the polling booth. The media is the propaganda arm of the coup. Ignorance and treason are the status quo. The people are stupid cowards. We should not give the guilty parties even a chance to claim innocences because they are not. There shall be no quarter. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
The looting economy which the US, and indeed most of the industrialized world, is practising may seem scary and impossible to resist, but its not a new phenomenon.
If one reads about everything from the Roman provincial governors to the colonialism of the 19th century it is a clear pattern in our society to do this to subordinate populations. It is also called imperialism which is what the US, EU, Russia (maybe) and China are engaged in to this day.
Consider that the symbol of the Yale alumnis, the skull and bones. is the same symbol used by british privateers looting spanish ships in the Caribbean 500 years ago. It was also used by Hitler who practised a brutal policy of expropriation and plunder in the lands he conquered. It would be strange if this was just some weird coincidence in my opinion.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Ron Paul needs to speak out about the obvious inside job that occurred on 9/11. Until then I hesitate to believe his predictions of the future.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
++++++++++++++++++++Without Jesus,,, you are doomed! HAVE A NICE DAY. John3:36
November 6th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
http://www.myspace.com/fighttheilluminati
November 6th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Every president has had a role to play in setting the stage for the one world government. Obama will be no different, either way we as a people are going to have hell unleashed upon us. Our government could care a less about the people, and there is a herd mentality in the world to where most people believe governments care. I pray we awake soon as a whole. Thank you Alex for what you do and have been doing, God bless you. I want to volenteer my time to help you, and when that day comes, I hope to see you on the other side when we are gathered to our God and Father.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
WELL I GUESS WE’LL JUST SIT BACK, PRAY, AND DO NOTHING TIL HE GETS HERE.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Since most people won’t believe in warnings and they laugh and scoff at the notion that governments are controlled. I suggest they read about civilizations that collapsed in history that was once great. Just like the Titantic, that is our fate for cowards!
November 6th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Ron Paul and his buddies like Alex Jones the racists that they are are now engaged in baseless fear mongering.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Yes because calling anyone who disagrees with you or your GOD Obama a racist isn’t fearmongering.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
To: OnlyJesussaves
Drop it with your embarassing blind faith. If you are unable to think for yourself, then Jesus is the only answer. Your approach of bombarding comments sections betrays your “beliefs”.
How ironic that an irrational belief is your path to salvation. Thanks for the chuckle; the “Have a nice day” was nice touch.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
“vaticitium est eventu”; if we are governed by our fear what we fear has come to pass.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
*ss Jones wrote:
”Ron Paul and his buddies like Alex Jones the racists that they are are now engaged in baseless fear mongering.”
You gotta be kiddin’.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
REHAB FROM THE NWO MOVEMENT:
Ok I have been torturing my self for the past few years about the NWO and what they plan to do for world Government. And honestly I’m starting not to care anymore. I have to be honest with myself, I’m not married and I don’t plan to do so and I do not plan on having any children. So I don’t care about my family because I don’t have one nor (and as hard for it is for me to say) do I care about the future generations, I’m sorry I just don’t care what happens to someone a hundred years from whether it be torture, lack of liberty, death etc. I just don’t I’m sorry. The reality is that in the future people will be able to live hundreds of years and the population will be in the 10’s of billions. What is wrong with forced sterilization or only allowing people to have 2 children.
Now I know that is against human freedom but honestly I can care less if future generations have freedom I’ll be dead. Someone care about that and then I’ll start caring about those future generations sorry I’m selfish. The truth is when the above happens the poor will not allow the rich to live forever with them only being allowed to live 80 years so the rich will have to kill them and that is just the way of things. You can’t have a planet where their is 30 billion people all living to 500 without sterilization. From a certain point of view someone always controls your destiny.
I’ve been trying to inform people of what is happening for years now and honestly they just don’t care, or even if they do they tend to forget about it after a few weeks. Most people in the our movement are high school drop out stoned poor people who are at their core jealous of the power others have while they apparently have non even over their own lives. There is no-one to my knowledge in the movement that can in a public way define what is happening and what the future will be. Most are filled with anger or frustration that goes well beyond the movement itself. I will for a short time continue to try to maintain my interest in this but with the lack of having an ability to do anything about I don’t know how long that will last. For a man in NWO rehab lets all I hope I can keep going.. And if they round me up into a FEMA camp I’ll try to flee if not I guess I’ll die. Either way I can’t stop the latter.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Well Jesus people…be prepared to die.. If you think you are going to get out of this without suffering…you have quite a rude awakening coming to you…(Book of revelation…remember the blood of the lambs and all Gods saints) Rev: 17 vs 6. “I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of the witnesses to Jesus.”
I believe in Jesus, but I’m going to let my light shine. My knowledge and belief in him, as well as my knowledge about the global elite and this Satanic world system. I’m going down swinging…sure, we should watch and pray, but don’t just sit on your ass expecting Jesus save you from everything if you were not doing your job of telling others about him and the evil world system! So many people are closet Christians who just say they “believe” and don’t follow Jesus at all…. We have an obligation to tell our brothers and sisters what is going on, and we need to fight this evil system that is taking over and exploit it until we are over taken by it and are put to death physically.
Any “Christian” who disagrees with me is either ignorant, a hypocrite who belongs to a false Christian church, or a coward.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
to # 25 only jesus saves. While your words may be true, frankly, people are tired of “hearing” about Jesus. Even more frank, I think he is too! People are looking for a “demonstration” of his love and acceptance in those who choose to follow him. Your words are “empty” and only bring attention to yourself. maybe that’s your plan………. I certainly don’t pretend to know what motive is which such a short sentence. As far as #32 goes………… your comments are just as shallow as #25. What makes you think for one minute that just because someone chooses to have faith in God that they can’t think for themselves. Ironically, it’s man thinking for themselves and assuming “HE” has all the answers that have gotten us into this big mess. perhaps a little trust in GOD is just what we need and not more rhetoric from dark hearted individuals running this place called earth.
November 6th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I appreciate the work of informing ppl Alex Jones does, and I have the greatest respect for
Dr. Ron Paul’s fight to restore the Republic, I even agree that Obama’s election is obviously a hollywood production, and a public relations project since the image of America is in the toilet after the Imperialist rampage around the world over trowing Soverign Nations for a century, however it amuses me that to my knowledge, neither Alex nor Dr. Paul mentions the role the British have in this move towards One World Gov.
The problem of Amerikkka is those in power have fooled the masses to believe that somehow this has been about skin color, rather than class.
Obama’s father is said to have worked for MI6 and his mother is related to Dick Cheny, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figuire our just like Bill Clinton a Rhodes scholar and bastard son of a Rockefeller, that Obama was groomed for this role in this day and time.
Unless this Republic is for all the ppl regardless of the color of their skin, then I hope the day will come soon, that Amerikkka is no more. She’s always been a whore, liar and a cheat, sucking the blood of other ppl and their resources. She’s like a beautiful women all dressed up in her finest, but she has AIDS. So what is she good for?
So, you conservatives are conserving what, Your privledged positon inside the belly of the beast?
Your Republic has no justification to exist as long as it does not adhear to the principles the lying slave master bastard masonic so called founding fathers put forth.
“I tremble for my country when I reflect, God is just and his justice will not sleep forever”
Thomas Jefferson
who had 5 children by his teenage slave girl Sally Hemmings, a bunch of dam hypocrits!
Reparations and Repatriation
November 6th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
i dont understand why people dont listen to Dr. paul? why cant they sence that there is something wrong in this world?
i think it all over, the game is over
November 6th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Jesus Christ is a dead man of centuries old. Ever since he left this planet, wild crazy stories have been perpetuated that have no basis in reality whatsoever. Christ’s followers perptuated lies of impossible feats that defy natural laws of physics. A dead person cannot come back to life. A man cannot walk on water. Water cannot be turned into wine as described. Jesus Christ’s followers are mentally ill, delusional. When there is some healing feat ascribed to the name of Christ, it is similar to the placebo affect of providing pills that cure people’s ailments. Studies have proven placebos which induce belief in relieving symptoms have a great amount to do with either healing them or greatly lessening the symptoms. Crazy men from ancient times claim Moses parted the sea and today delusionals expect us to accept this through faith. Faith is good to a certain extent as part of a survival skill. However, this religion is totally fraudulent of any reality whatsoever. We have proven again the lies of the Bible, including the earth is the center of the universe. So what if humanity ends on earth? The universe will still exist just fine without mankind. billions of galaxies strong. millions of planets strong. trillions of stars.
November 6th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
++++++++++++++++++++++++++EXTRA,,,EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!! FRESH NEWS ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT ELECTS BIRTH CERTIFICATE—————-@——————————————-TRUNEWS.COM—————————-WHO REALLY IS THIS GUY? John3:36
November 6th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Read your Bible Alex. We win.
November 6th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Yeah! you’ll win, But remember without any work we can’t. And before that we have to seen the More Worst Time….Be prepared for it
November 6th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
First of all, don’t quote the Bible if you don’t know what you’re talking about. This goes to everyone. Second of all, I am a christian, and I do not for one second believe that I will come out of this unscathed. In fact, I think I’ll probably be one of the first targeted. Of course, everyone will be the target of these satanist pigs, but such is life.
For the rest of you atheists, I have known that this time was coming. We call it the end times, when Satan will be allowed to do whatever he pleases to show the universe why god is just. If you’re wondering where our Jesus is, he’s not here. his presence has been removed. But, he’s coming. Of that we can be sure.
And as for irrational beliefs…. yeah… Okay, this is most likey coming from someone who was brainwashed at a public school. So let’s not bring up the subject of irrational beliefs alright?
In conclusion, us “Jesus Freaks” will most likely be the target of an early action of persecution…even though I can’t imagine why this might be the case. What could cause people to just outright start killing people of a differing religion? Even under the NWO. But, I’m sure we will find out. In any event, I’m not at all surprised that we’ve come to this point. In fact, my crowd has been telling us this would happen after reading Bible Prophecy…
I have more to say, but no time.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
spot on buggaboo! its all happening just as predicted THOUSAND OF YEARS AGO!!!!!!!
Praise the Lord!
November 6th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
All this endless arguing is like swinging punches at the air. Please leave Jesus out. (1Cor 9:26)
November 6th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
November 6th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
First, kudos to Alex and Ron Paul. This country needs more people speaking out about the puppet masters pulling the strings. Secondly, there is huge difference between simply believing that Jesus will save you and actually “picking up your cross and walking in the path” that he has shown us. Let me God’s instruction paraphrase briefly. “Keep my commandments and you will see the Kingdom within you.” That means all of the commandments including the fourth: Observe the Sabbath and keep it holy. God rested on the 7th day. So too should we set this day aside for worship, reflection, meditation, contemplation, and prayer, from sundown on Friday until sundown on Saturday. That is the true test. Either you observe the Saturday Sabbath as instructed by God, or you don’t. In/out, black/white, it’s that simple.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
calling on all white men.what the FK?we hae allowed our country to be stolen from us, it’s time to demand reverse affirmitive action, it’s time for us to riot and demand 7 generations of handouts then to take over the ghetto’s and poison eeryone with crack.it apears that going to work and paying your bills is a recipie for enslament.it’s time to re-conquer america.let the revolution begin.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
My husband keeps telling me that Obama is the anti-christ.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Is there an area were we can all meet according to region once the s--- hits the fan if not then we should start working on it ASAP instead of attacking each other over the internet, but instead band together in the masses!!
November 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
First off, I read Infowars quite frequently but this is my first post. I ask that we stop using biblical references and Jesus quotes when venting on this website. You are only turning regular people off of the real truth that is going on in today’s economic society. I’ve grown up a lifelong Catholic with nearly 20 years of Catholic/Christian education. My sister is a nun for God’s sake. I consider myself a Deist. I believe in God but I don’t believe in the various organized religions. The bible is littered with contradictions. For years, religion has been used to infantize and control the masses. This country was designed for a separation of church and state, so lets please keep it that way.
Above all, I say we use their own weapons against them. Every dollar that comes across your hands, write this website or something like it on the front of the bill. The key is to coordinate with all third party groups and groups similar to this one. I suggest organizing a coordination between Infowars and the FDRS, the Federal Debt Relief System. They are wise to what is happening and they provide a great service in helping people get out of debt. Listen and hear the words of our forefathers. “Common Sense” was a critical piece of journalism that sold nearly 100,000 copies during the Revolutionary period. We need to organize a similar way to reach the hearts and minds of those who don’t have the means of understanding.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
#51 – I hear you!! What do we do?? We need an organizer… Is anybody aware of anything like this being put together??
November 6th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
President Bush’s most recent executive orders:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu.....orders.php
Executive Order 13476 – Facilitation of a Presidential Transition
October 9, 2008
Executive Order 13475 – Further Amendments to Executive Orders 12139 and 12949 in Light of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2008
October 7, 2008
Executive Order 13472 – Executive Branch Responsibilities With Respect to Orders of Succession
September 11, 2008
“Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss” is quite an accurate description.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
@52.
Despite the fact that the Bible advocates a very limited government and warns us of the NWO in excruciating detail in Revelations…
Also, while I agree with the concept of the seperation of church and state- constitutionally and foundationally it isn’t required.
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
November 6th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Just too bad that Ron Paul isn’t a bit more on the emphatic side when he’s had his moments in the spotlight…either on the House floor or in front of TV cameras. He seems to come off as being too passive and too whinny…which I think takes away from his perceived level of conviction regarding the issues he speaks of.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
This is a made for TV presidency! Ron Paul talks about the bitter pill that needs to be swallowed while Obama trumpets the issues that play in the main stream and appeal to the brain washed masses.
Does anyone want to hear about fiscal responsability? No! They want a president to sugar coat the entire thing and make you feel like you have no reason to worry. The man is not for the people! Period! There will still be poor black people in inner city slums just as broke as ever! Nothing is going to change!
People think that because there is a new president that the corporate controlling elite will somehow just disappear? God people are very very naive and brain washed.
I fear the future under Obama!
November 6th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
We have less than four years…click my name and support this ticket!!!!!
November 6th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Population control will be next.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I think we should have a new campaign for Ron Paul starting today. I mean… we all believe in the cause sooo much. There are soo many of us out there that can continue to shine the light on Paul and our ideas. Regardless of whether he is running or whether there is an election near… we can promote the ideas by following and showing our unchanged support of Ron Paul.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Civilian National Police Force, Gee I wonder who that will be made up of? I can hear the mandate now! GO GET YOUR PIE BOYS! I was wondering where they were going to get enough people to make martial law work. I was beginning to think they were cloning them on planet x or something.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
You lazy fatass Burger King eating f---s deserve what’s supposedly coming. The hardest you’all will ever fight is when you take a s--- everyday from all that crap you eat. BTW, WATCH OUT , ITS YOUR SHADOW!!! O NO!!!
November 6th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
November 16-18th should be interesting.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Obama is new world order trash. he has lied to the american people and the only thing that can change this is us organizing to defeat the new world order. enough is enough people its time to fight!!!!!!!!
November 6th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Sorry Daniel #40 but we serve a supernatural God that defies the laws of physics since it is He that created the laws of physics anyway!! It is so sad to see people like you who don’t believe and think that all that you see has come about with a big bang theory!! But I do believe in the BIG BANG THEORY ALSO!! GOD SPOKE AND BANG!! IT HAPPENED!! And will you be one of the zombie slaves of the new world order who will take the antichrist beast chip and be twice as brainless as you are now!!?? As you will repeat everything that the world leader will have you to say and even think!!?? For unless you give your life to Jesus; you will PROBABLY TAKE THEIR BEAST CHIP IN YOUR FOREHEAD OR HAND AND BE TURNED INTO A AUTONOTOM SLAVE OF THE antichrist new world order!! Therefore give God the glory and come over to the side of light and peace and wonder; and escape the horrors of hell that is in the center of the Earth!!
November 6th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I could not agree more #52. And #51.
We need to get over our petty little personal differences and work together. Don’t tell people what your relious beliefs are. Don’t tell people what your race or sex is. Just leave that bull s--- out of it when commenting here or we are going to get no where. Time is not on our side people we have to work hard.
Just keep bringing people the truth everyday. Don’t ever stop.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
the organizer to fight the new world order from doing any more false flag attacks or genocide in the world must live in asia
November 6th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Ask Alex Jones why he doesn’t back Ralph Nader, or at least interview him. I know why.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
obama is a liar..when you hire the son of a zionist who loves Israel you know something is very wrong…the government doesn’t care about the people, the elections should not be every year but no time table, even if ron paul came in everybody around him would be corrupt
November 6th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Faith McGary, I appreciate your thoughts. But some of your words are bordering on racial intimidation. The fact of the matter is, most white people living today are horrified by America’s past, and would not have done what their ancestors have done. I feel that people exploit White Guilt in an effort to keep people shut up and intimidated. You may not intend to do that, all I ask is please be aware of it.
And that’s what’s dangerous about the upcoming Obama regime. Any political dissent will undoubtedly be demonized, and possibly criminalized as racism or bigotry. Unfortunately, people who protest his decisions will be met with “How dare you criticize the first black president!”
November 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Sounds like WE need 10 to 50 thousand well armed Citizens to March into DC and take back whats OURS! Anyone with me on this one? Because the Ron Paul Revolution is to tame for them (the Elites) to take US seriously.
Save the Republic, kill a CEO
Cheers
Ripper
November 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
criticizing Obama shouldn’t be considered racist no more than criticizing bush was considered a slight a against the mentally challenged.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
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November 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Yrs ago back in the mid 80″s I joined a independent political party, NBIPP, National Black Independent Political Party, we were harrassed by police everytime we came together for a peaceful organizing meeting, America is not now, nor has it ever been a true democracy or Constitutional Republic that lives up to it’s creed for all the ppl anyway. The Elite rule by Divide and Conguer Strategy, just look at how they maintain the destabalization of the Continent of Africa, and now Asia.
Unfortunately, it appears, we will fall for the same tactics in America, probably kill each other off which is what the Eilte want “depopulation, and do not be fooled by the Tel-Lie-Vison, we do not have a free press either, so you will not see that there are many others who are not fooled by the Hollywood drama called the 2008 Election that just happened. Most ppl in America do not read history and so they are easily manipulated. We have a public fool system
November 7th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag event but 911 was 19 arab terrorists? Ron Paul needs to do some research on 911. In a similiar vein Naomi Wolf hasn’t come to any conclusion about 911. I think Ron and Naomi need some “measured” research on the 911 events.
November 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am
We feel you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzKLCM0u_gg
November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
At least we have ONE strong voice in RON PAUL, speaking out against the NWO.
It seems that the NWO Adherents are everywhere – shouldn’t they be forced to wear a badge or logo ?
November 7th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Screw Ron Paul. If he was so concerned about our country and our constitution why didn’t he sever his ties with the republikkkan party and run as an independent? Whats the matter Ronnie, are those RNC dollars too tough to let go of? Sure he has a few good ideas, but he wants more deregulation which is what led to the current financial crisis.
November 7th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
If uncle fester read or listened to the many interviews with Congressman Paul explaining his posistion on why he ran with the republicans…I’ll leave it at that.
November 7th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Ron Paul exposes the real agenda of those who want the NWO, One World Government and, quite conceivably, a One World Religion (e.g., Islam).
Ron Paul may want more deregulation and deregulation may be bad for the consumer. But the largest corporations always find a way to screw the consumer anyway, with or without regulations. After all, the bigger and more selfish the already selfish corporations become the more likely it will become that with regulations in place they will pool their resources together in an effort to regulate the regulators and create regulations that favour their purely selfish interests at the consumer’s expense anyway.
A better solution to the monopolization of selfish large corporations would be for the consumer to take his or her business away from every large corporation or big business and merger that threatens to become big that he or she can afford to take it away from and give it to only small businesses or mom and pop shops.
I think that Ron Paul is merely attempting to get us (the people) to pool our resources together, wage ware against, and overthrow the corporate puppeteers who are the real cause of the financial, social, and political nightmares unfolding before us all.
November 7th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
He could be right, but I hope he isn’t. I’ve had the thought that jus’ about every candidate running for president was under the thumb of the Elite aka Shadow Gov’t aka Illuminati? Again, I hope I’m wrong!
It has been prophecized by moe than 1, that a ’savior’ would come who appeared to be the answer to our prayers. Someone who was trustworthy & had what was best for the Whole in mind. Actually someone you could say … was too good to be true. Obama kinda looks that way to me? This ’savior’ would actually be not as he seemed & be part of the Illuminati … helping prepare for a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT!
Again, God/dess please let me be wrong!
November 7th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
This site is the biggest hate mongering load of s--- I’ve ever come across.
November 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Although I respect Congressman Paul, and voted for him as a write-in candidate for President, I think we need to step back and look more rationally at Mr. Obama.
Let’s give the guy a couple of weeks in office, at least, to see what he will do.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Come on 88 He will do what he is told to do. We would all like to have a glimmer of hope, but unfortunately that is not a reality with this man let alone any politician. When are you and the people going to come out of your coma?
November 7th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
I say give Obama a chance, you are defeating him before he has a chance to prove himself. Clinton was good, ran supluses, Bush/Cheney proved themselves to be warmongers and repressors and law breakers and ran major deficits. The Republicans look like a bunch of Hillbillys, not to say that is a bad thing. Ron Paul may have some good ideas but some of them are also flakey, unworkable. Those who do not want Obama, I say get over it, stop crying in your milk and try make things work. If they dont vote him out next time.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
“he wants more deregulation which is what led to the current financial crisis.”
Ron Paul has written a few books about economic principles; I would bet the farm that you’ve never taken the time to learn even the most basic fundamentals of economics.
I think it safe to say, that Ron Paul’s diagnosis of the economic crises is probably just a bit more informed and accurate than yours.
Federal Reserve manipulation of money, credit, and interest rates, combined with government mandates stearing capital away from sound investments and into “subprime” mortgaging, is what led to the current financial crises. Not “deregulation.”
November 7th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
you have to read the international jew of Mr. Henry Ford and then the protocols. http://www.henrybook.com
November 7th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
To all you dimwits out there: God DOES exist; He DOES know what’s going on and if you read the back of the Book – WE WIN! ! ! Not in the way all you “can’t see beyond your nose” people think we should win – instead, We win globally, universally and eternally.
As far as Obama is concerned – he cannot be the Antichrist – I believe the Bible predicts that individual will come from, or near the Middle East.
And yes, I believe we are on a cataclysmic course to a One World Government. God help us.
November 7th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
All this talk of God in the comments completely turns me off believing anything written here. Right wing crazies have cried wolf (i.e. shouted so many obviously false and downright crazy nonsense) that I automatically dismiss their ramblings. I realize that not everything they say will be wrong, but I’m not wasting my time and energy on the possibility that something they blather has any merit.
Any sane person of faith would do themselves well to call out those who sully their name with insane, inane delusions.
When I read a rational discussion about this issue by people who refer to the real world, I will start paying attention.
November 8th, 2008 at 1:08 am
I don’t find the religous comments ” a turn off” at all. I find them rather amusing, to be honest!
So far, I’ve won “religious arguments” against Catholic Priests, Basilian Priests, Cristian Ministers, and others, and I’ll quickly explain why, now:
I’ve always found it very amusing to have discussions with people who rely on “spooky language” and “invisible omnipotent deities” in response to logic, reason, scientific evidence, common sense, intelligence, the documented fossil record and critical thinking…just to name a few.
How can you lose when the odds are so heavily stacked against the religious zealots? Anyone with the tiniest bit of common sense has to look at the indoctrinated and feel sorry for their lack of ability to think for themselves. Hopefully, it won’t be much longer before people truly evolve past the need to accept “wholly unproven fables” without any support, and start accepting scientific facts for what they are…FACTS!
November 8th, 2008 at 2:38 am
We are in strange times when the people of different countries are yet
not well informed by the Media who only remained busy serving the
vested interests of alites and the corporatations world wide.
When most government sign the protocols of One World Government
majority of population would have no Liberty. Democracy in most of
the countries would then just be a page of History ! Humanity must
wake up and hold their all government representatives to conduct in
a manner involving civil society to ensure that the Rights, Dignity and
safe survival of billions of people is not compromised.
Ashok
November 8th, 2008 at 3:17 am
C.L.W. – What does the Bible say about how we will win? Is there anything in the Bible about a 1 World Gov’t? Thanx
November 8th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Shakti, this is untrue. The bible says a lot of random garbage, these apocalypse nuts are bound to touch a few nerves in that fashion. It mentions that the world will join together and say that there is no more war, and it would be a time of peace. This is followed by the whole “apocalypse” deal we hear so much about from the xians. They are restless in their insistence to match up any real world event with their beliefs, without doing so for any one else’s. I could argue that the world is coming to the end in every style imaginable since EVERY religion speaks of events that can be matched with the things happening in the world right now, why pay heed to what the xians say alone?
November 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Hey Mr.ElectroPig…I am so very glad that you have expressed your thoughts. You see, it makes my life so much easier knowing how weak people like you truly are. I love the fact that you don’t believe in my God. It relieves me from any guilt when in taking everything you have. Without God and His laws of nature, there is nothing to stop me from dominating you and even taking your life. It’s the laws of animal instinct and animal rights according to your doctrine.
So, when the time comes, I’m sure you won’t hold it against me when I take what I want from you, even your wife and children if I please. Remember, it’s your philosophy that allows me complete free will to survive.
Thank you again!
November 8th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Wise words.
November 9th, 2008 at 9:50 am
If one subscribes to the Biblical description of what is taking place. sounds like Obama may be that individual. Praise the Lord and pass the ammuntion.
November 10th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Anybody who has educated themselves just a little bit beyond what they got in the government schools shouldn’t be too surprised by any of this.
Dr. Paul is probably correct because this has been the nature of government pretty much since government was instituted. The nature of government is to grow and the goal seems to be for a small group of people to control the world. (imagine a game of Risk)
America has had a collectivist government for quite a while now. What is collectivist? It’s government control of everything. It’s stealing from some to give to others because they consider it better for the “collective” or “for the greater good.” It’s the end justifying the means.
Leninist/Stalinist collectivism takes control with bullets, extreme force and speed.
Rhodesian collectivism (named after Cecil Rhodes of Rhodes scholarship fame) takes control in gradual and stealthy ways. This is the collectivism that the American government has adopted.
To learn more about how we got to this place and what the end result might be, visit the Freedom Force International website. Here you will also find a way out.
November 10th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
good luck and thanks for all the fish!
November 10th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
The way to take over a country is not with outright war, but to control the educational system, the media (Written, spoken, Hollywood, Television, etc.) and gain control of the money. Take a look at what is happening and tell me it “Ain’t So”.
I am often ostracized for my outspoken views and insistence on continuing to speak. This is the one way to have an impact. Dr. Paul is right on the button. I will continue to help as much as I can even when it appears that the message falls on deaf (Or Mindnumbed) ears.
Charley
November 10th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I’m wondering what’s with all of the bible talk? If you have questions about what’s written in the bible, ask your pastor, or someone else who will tell you what you want to hear. If you wonder about your own spirituality, look inward and pray you find a fighter. So many people are WAITING, for what??? Jesus, Obama, some other ’saviour’? Apathy is infuriating. We are trained to look to religion and government for easy answers (easy, meaning we don’t have to do anything) and solutions and we need to undo that if we are ever going to think our own thoughts and really take our own actions. THEY’RE NOT GOING TO SAVE US!
November 10th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
i just think america is a major instrument in most of the bible’s prophesies, if people would just study their bible they would know and understand,slowly but surely the one government and one currency order will come soon,am just sorry obama has won in such a time like this, just do your research on th illuminati and free masons which i know are very real !ha ah ah ha ha ah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 10th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Greetings to every reader on this website! I have to recognize that Infowar is a well of very important informations. My question is, what may mere human beings do against earthly powers being constantly controlled by satan(the devil)? It’s true that since the first rebellion initiated by this wretched being, human beings have followed in his accursed footsteps. There will be not only a union of apostate religious systems, but also a union of churches and states. America has a rendez-vous with prophecy( I suggest that you study the thirteen chapter of the book of revelation). Soon this country is to enter a dark ages-style era. Are we ready to face those who have allowed evil principles to govern their minds? The challenge is not only our temporal liberties; the most crucial challenge is our eternal freedoms. Since Adam and Eve sinned, the human race has been in a fallen state. We are sinners and we are not free until we realize our need of a Savior in the person of Jesus Christ( the only-begotten Son of God). Victory against the forces of evil is impossible without God’s great help. God is still in control and He is allowing these things to be, so that we may realize our need of Him who made us. Nothing can stop the New World Order, only Jesus Christ. It is a shocking reality that the majorities in America are worshipping the very ones that are planing for their utter demise. The apocalyptic beast is rising, ushering an age of unspeakable terror. It will take more than being a patriotic American to come out victors of the upcoming crisis( we will need to enlist in the Army of God where, we’ll have Jesus as our General). I pray that we will individually realize this great need. May the Lord bless every soul on this website, and give us wisdom to learn from Him. Lift up your voice O America and sound the trumpet, that those who are still sleeping may aroused to a sense of danger. With love to all from God’s heart through mine.
November 10th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
I support the policies for which Dr Paul stands, however, Ive had enough of this conspiracy theory, biblical end times rhetoric. America has had a history of historic change and has shown the ability to survive dire crisis. Why is it not possible for that type of emergence from this now?
If the “one-world” government is indeed here, well then its here. Have we already lost our “national Sovereignty” Maybe so. Certainly, all currecies are linked anyway. You can trade them all day for pennies. Just as you can trade Gold and other assets and stores of value. If the economic systems of the world are collapsing, well then God help us all. Im sure ours wont be the only government confiscating assets.
Democracy was never meant to be owned by America or kept within its shores. I believe Obama is a peaceful leader at the very least. To suggest he is planning more world skirmishes, is the type of language that kept Paul out of the White House. How is it we suggest to know the motives of others as deceitful and evil? Give me a break. Right now, if theres a real problem, its Russia, there banging the drum already.
Now that the election is over, i’m willing to believe that its possible for America to take necessary steps to overcome the problems we face. Sorry, but thats just the way it is. Im sure here will be some backlash for that comment, bu thats the only way its going to work. If everybody gets their asses in gear.
Following the deception and lies of the Bush administration, and the last vestige of un-restricted free markets, maybe we can learn something.
One thing is for sure, the good life is over. Its time to get back to work and try as hard as we possibly can to make a world our children can inherit.
November 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
In my last posted comment, in the last sentence, I inadvertently forgot to put the word “be” before the word “aroused”. It must read “be aroused”. Thak you. Courtesy of Enoch the last.
November 10th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
The only ones who hates God so much are white trash mad because daddy went to the store and never came back! Get over it! God exists and doesn’t need yout puny permission to do so!
November 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
The Congressman is right. He knows more than most people on the subject. Check out reg6.com
November 13th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Mr ivotedforpaul,
The deception is much, much older than Busch and his daddy, and much deeper than you, evidently, can imagine. There you go! That’s my backlash! One of the Founding Fathers said “The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing.” NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!
I heard that on a movie, and I really like it! Great slogan!
November 16th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
I want to believe we are at the cross roads for good with Obama, but I do not count Ron Paul out. We will know by the end of 2009, won’t we? He is doing well to warn us, we have to decide.
November 18th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Some people are in for a rude awakening with Obama – you don’t need to research history to see what is happening and It’s hanging over your heads…better wear a crash helmet cause hell is here!
November 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
http://video.google.com/videos.....;ct=title#
November 19th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Lyndon Larouche predicted these scenarios in 2006. McCain or Obama, no difference. Both would be puppets to same masters that pulled George Bush’s strings.
“Obama is a tool of George Soros, the
mega-speculator and multi-billionaire, who is committed to such
nefarious policies as drug legalization, the expansion of
globalization, and eventually the total elimination of the nation
state. Obama is publicly committed to continuing the war on terror,
America’s highly aggressive expansion of Nato, which is virtually a
demand for a new Cold War, and has already brought Wall Street into
his administration. Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s new chief of staff, is
typical of this influence. Obama is also committed to strengthening
the Anglo-American alliance, which has brought his nation, and the
world, to the point of utter ruin.”
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:59 am
The US Government is not letting me redress grievances and keep stealing my money illegally. My times are being challenged to expatriate. I have the regulations and the government is baulking on what is authorized. f--- the criminal US Government USC 7701 / IRC 7701. Keep the Federal Corporation in the Federal Zone.
Tom Callan