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    RIA Novosti
    October 17, 2009

    Russia is ready to consider using the Russian and Chinese national currencies instead of the dollar in bilateral oil and gas dealings, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

    The premier, currently on a visit to Beijing, said a final decision on the issue can only be made after a thorough expert analysis.

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    “Yesterday, energy companies, in particular Gazprom, raised the question of using the national currency. We are ready to examine the possibility of selling energy resources for rubles, but our Chinese partners need rubles for that. We are also ready to sell for yuans,” Putin said.

    He stressed that “there should be a balance here.”

    On Tuesday, Russia and China agreed terms for Russian gas deliveries at a level of up to 70 billion cubic meters a year. China also imports oil from Russia.

    The Russian prime minister said the issue would be addressed among others at a meeting of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) finance ministers, who are to convene before the end of the year in Kazakhstan.

    Britain’s Independent newspaper reported last Tuesday that Russian officials had held “secret meetings” with Arab states, China and France on ending the use of the U.S. dollar in international oil trade.

    The countries are reportedly seeking to switch from the dollar to a basket of currencies including the euro, Japanese yen, Chinese yuan, gold, and a new unified currency of leading Arab oil producing countries.

    The Independent said the meetings have been confirmed by Chinese and Arab banking sources.

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    168 Responses to “Russia ready to abandon dollar in oil, gas trade with China”

    1. omega Man Says:

      Live Free!! Die Free!! Buy Food

      Gone Baby Gone (USA) Reply:

      It’s here, And the dollar is done, get yourself and family into a plan,\

      FOOD, Bullion,

      end the fed Reply:

      yip hip hooray

      america is going to go into captivity

      thats great thats fantastic

      he who takes captives will himself go into captivity

      america the rich arrogant selfish self centered nation

      of the rich assholes that have raped the normal american citizen is going to get what it deserves

      when the goldman sachs boys have to get off their asses and get a job

      america will be AMERICA AGAIN

      we need GOD in america again Carmen youtube

      coolaking Reply:

      the banks will still be running under different currency they will be fine just joe public shat on

      maybe Reply:

      Get ready for Amero.

      Ov3rkomer Mann Reply:

      The Dollar’s death by a thousand cuts, until we suddenly ‘need’ a world currency. After Euro and Amero maybe ‘Terra’?

      If the dollar crashes causing hyper inflation, living in a debt free home would be preferable to renting.

      Better than Gold is the ability to grow food. Buy a piece of land or at least a garden.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      COOL, WE’LL JUST ABANDON FOREIGN AIDE.

      Well basically.. Reply:

      Possibly.. but not to Israel. Those poor defenceless heroes need as much money as you stupid yanks can bleed.

      m Reply:

      funny, yeah, haha. Screw the Zionists!

      jackpontiac Reply:

      Where did you get the blue ink?

      get out now Reply:

      As far as I have heard Israel still wants American aide they just expect it in Euro’s now.

      Prince Nicolás Reply:

      I laugh at you American fools. The Order already owns your miserable lives. Many of you talk a good game about how you will fight back, but who exactly will you fight…a ghost? In your futile attempt to save your perceived liberties you will turn on one another like ravenous animals in search of those who robbed you of what you never had to begin with. Your society will self-destruct and crumble from within because of your lack of knowledge and wisdom. If you eliminated every political leader in your nations capital, we will still be here…watching…waiting for you to behave like we already know that you will. Such fools are you. Everything that you possess is because we have allowed it…that will soon come to an end…who will you fight against…a ghost?

      Prince Picklef---er Reply:

      Oh you’re really scary…ROFL. Stupid people are everywhere.

      NEPHILIM COMING !!!! Reply:

      The real battle is between Jesus Christ and satan ,prince n,America Russia ,China all being rented by satan and his demonic angels ,But God will take it back

      MAD DOG Reply:

      HA HA HA HA HA ..
      PUT DOWN YOUR COMIC BOOK IDIOT.

      Red Dawn 09 Reply:

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      Altered States Reply:

      Wrong. Buy bullets

    2. northyboy Says:

      1st :)

      NEPHILIM COMING !!!! Reply:

      The beast is getting tired of the gret harlot riding on its back

      Dude, just stop it. Reply:

      Seriously man, stop with the epic fairytale s---. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that a half-angel f---ing giant race of demonic half-humans are going to wage war on earth? Realize that, although you are savvy to the government brainwashing, you have been mercilessly pwnt by the religious machine. The bible is f---ing metaphorical. Oh yeah, and keep in mind, it’s been edited hundreds, if not thousands of times throughout human history. Stop with this religious nutcase bulls---, you are making this site look like it’s infested with bible-crazies. Go take to the streets with a sandwich board, you f---ing loony.

    3. Professor of Truth UK Says:

      If Russia can abandon the dollar, surely you could abandon those annoying flashing adverts in the middle of this article. I know you don’t like google so Why not go try the ixquick adds, it would generate $6 grand a month for this website, and us readers wouldn’t get an epileptic fit while trying to read.

      NEPHILIM COMING !!!! Reply:

      Does this mean China will stop importing there cheap ass unhealthy crap into the USA.

      Gary Reply:

      Even if it does, it will be too little and too late.

      JasonV11 Reply:

      You may want to research worldwide silver reserves, they are about 5X less than Gold, and the supply for silver is exceeding demand, what do you think will happen when all silver intensive industries such as medical, solar, technology, water purification, photography, etc will start to hoard more of it?

      Price will go up, hence silver may very well be more precious than gold. If it goes upto $100/ounce thats 5x profit. You can’t say it won’t since it’s been upto $50/ounce in the past.

      Gary Reply:

      Not sure what that has to do with Chinese imports, but, what makes you think these industries will be hoarding silver? They have to use it in the manufacture of their products. It does them no good to hold onto it in its raw form. In fact, no one really benefits from holding gold or silver until they sell it or trade it for something else. Until then, it’s only a store of value and that value fluctuates with supply and demand. Frankly, I don’t see silver ever equaling, much less surpassing gold. Both have industrial uses, but silver does to a far greater extent and this lessens it value relative to gold.

      StarinaNovak Reply:

      Nope. China owns half of US, and the other half belongs to Saudi Arabia.

      If they dump dollar, then …

      brad Reply:

      No wonder Barrack H obama bowed to the Saudi leader.

      NEPHILIM COMING !!!! Reply:

      Obama was sworn in on a copy of the altar of zues which is really the altar of satan ,Its all coming to play ,just like the Holy Scriptures said it would

      Gary Reply:

      He also kissed the Pope’s ring, as all world leaders do.

      Dave Reply:

      If they dump the dollar the dollar collapses
      If the dollar collapses our treasuries won’t sell without very high interest rates
      Our government won’t allow that so they will enact QE(quantitaive easing)which is a fancy euphemism for “buying our own debt issuance” which will hasten the fall of the dollar
      If this occurs we will have defaulted on our obligations to the Chinese regarding their holdings which will mean that we may be forced by the UN and world bank to transfer assets to the Chinese for repayment.
      These assets may be toll systems on all of our highways meaning $25.00 per transit fees for all of us.
      In fact two of these potentialities have already happened,we are already transfering high tech military intelligence to the Chinese and we are engaging in QE right now due to so few buyers of our treasuries at the auctions.
      Things are getting worse very quickly

      PatriotOne Reply:

      BS, FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES are fiat paper, China knows this, China bought it. The FED is a private corporation. China must go to the FED to cover it’s grievance. The USA should not be made liable for dumbass China buying FRN’s. If China’s paper is worth more/less than FRN paper too fukn bad for China.
      Send Bernank’E, Sachs, Paulson, Clinton, Frank, Rockefeller and the rest of the China cock-suckers off to china and let the Chinese have their way with the liars that skrewed them.
      None of these shysters had any authority to trade the American people, or their land, into slavery or servitude to any other nation/corporation.
      If China, IMF, or any other legal fiction want what they claim to be theirs, send China the thieving assholes (Clinton et al) that made the deal.

      Draconian Prince Reply:

      Japan owns alot too.

    4. vinny Says:

      damn this is just great…………….. one ONE think keeping the dollar good gone.

    5. BOBBy Says:

      Big surprise.

    6. Larry "Mossad" Silverstein Says:

      Ha ha…everything the Bush crime family has worked for (including old man bush helping kill JFK in Dallas) is coming unraveled. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha ha Baw ha ha ha ho.

      Fluoride_is_better_than_acid Reply:

      The Bush family bought a thousand acres in Uruguay, and will soon be partying with Kenneth Lay and relatives of Joseph Mengele.

      peter pan Reply:

      I thought they bought the land in the northern part of Paraguay, between Brazilan and Bolivian border.

      Gary Reply:

      No, actually, it’s all coming to fruition. The Bushes have been working for the NWO for generations.

      h Reply:

      Wait, aren’t you the guy who bought the world trade center? ooooooo

    7. MadMaxV12 Says:

      I agree, Gold is overpriced, after all it’s face value states $20. They may return to that once the system crash, and people may be able to buy houses for $20 in Gold.

      MadMaxV12 Reply:

      But paying over $1000/ounce? when you can buy silver which is so undervalued, there’s more profit in silver in my opinion.

      silverbarter.com

      Gary Reply:

      You don’t buy it for profit. You buy it as a hedge.

      Dave Reply:

      Where have you been Gary?
      Actually gold can exceed the performance of a hedge against inflation and delve into the realm of an investment.
      I’m up almost 80% in three years,that’s certainly a higher rate of return than from the ravages done from inflation.

      Gary Reply:

      I didn’t say you can’t buy it as an investment. I’m just saying that, in times like these, taking physical possession of gold coins is the preferred mode of gold ownership. Gold mining stocks, futures contracts and gold funds are a paper investment.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      YOU DONT BUY IT AT IT’S HIGEST PRICE IN 20 YRS.

      GEEZE,

    8. Ryan Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz4ifzTj9ww

    9. debbie from dallas Says:

      ahhhh seems as if america is a drunk cheerleader in the football teams locker room, it aint gonna be pretty.

      raft Reply:

      sounds funner than hell. I say let the games begin

      April Reply:

      Not that ive been tagged by 20 hot muscle ripped men in the changroom, but as long as we all enjoy it instead of fighting it, it could be alright in the end.

      stupid is as stupid does Reply:

      —-which end?—

      h Reply:

      eh bb

    10. Spiritual Warrior Says:

      well glory be to God , hallelujah

    11. Merrie Says:

      Great all these low down countries that the USA used and exploited for centuries are now rising up. I think that the USA will be come the protectorate of Japan and China will attack. Thats bound to be a good bloody fight. I dont know what to do, where to run to, just stay fight and die. WTF Over. MCB

      StarinaNovak Reply:

      Nobody is going to attack anybody.

      Why are you so hysteric about war? Do you think you deserve to be attacked?

      What’s wrong with you? Other countries are not nearly as barbaric and savage as US.

      h Reply:

      If Brad is like me, we grew up with Red Dawn running through our minds while playing war games in our neighborhoods. The biggest battle we have to face comes from within our borders.

      TrutherD Reply:

      The US is everything the ruling families have made them. You can’t even blame the US government anymore.

      brad Reply:

      Remember that the U.s.a still has the greatest army in the world, and technology better then china and Russia put together. and it’s citiziens who have guns, bigger then the u.s army and the worlds army put together!

      Merrie Reply:

      I live in the state of Hawaii, Its been jungle law here for a long time. There are a lot of veterans here that are really sick PTSD and government abuse. Like ticking time bombs. The Emperor of Japan came here a few months ago. All the loyal Japanese Americans came out to yell banzai to him. It was frightening. I can see the future of Hawaii and I feel that I soon must leave or not survive. As for other countries not being as savage and barbaric tell that to John Mccain. Hawaii was savagely attacked before. It is a strategic geographical location. It will be attacked again. Nothing is wrong with me as far as I can see but you Starina are pretty aggressive. What are you at war with? Probably your own liver. Do a liver cleanse & a colonic, you’ll feel better! Aloha MCB

      h Reply:

      Yes, Brad, we would make a fierce fo. Composed of people from all ethnic backgrounds. The People of Chinese and Russan blood will stand with their American brothers for what they were promised as the American dream. Nobody will waltz in here.

      Draconian Prince Reply:

      But warefare isn’t in guns and technology alone.

    12. Peter Says:

      NINE (9) Countries in South America have already abandoned the dollar for “THE SUCRE” (which means SUGAR). Find out more at thecoming depression dot net

    13. moe Says:

      What the hell is gold and silver going to do you retards if you live in a country where the currency fails. You would be better off buying seeds , water purifiers, or anything else that makes good you will be able to trade for.

      Gary Reply:

      True, Moe. In such a situation, it’s vital necessities that will become the medium of exchange and barter will rule.

      brad Reply:

      why barter or use money, while you could just survive into the future with food, water, shelter alone?

      Well basically.. Reply:

      You turn USD’s into gold. The dollar collapses.. they bring in the “globo” or the bongo-buck, whatever.. and you step forward and ask: “How many bongo-bucks can r git fo ma ton of gold Mister smarty-pants banker type guy??” At which point they give you a s----load of this new currency. and you have now saved your wealth.

      But if you have no wealth today.. then yeah.. your life will just be s---tier.. but not by as much as the guy who hands over his worthless $50,000,000 USD’s and gets $3-fity bongo-bucks in return.

      makingsense Reply:

      when the currency does fail they will have to replace with something else or keep the dollar as a regional currency and buying silver and gold will protect from the inflation will that will follow..but if they do replace the dollar with something else and for every dollar u loose (401k savings checking IRA) lets say they give u 2 cents.. hopefully trading in silver and gold for the new currency u get a lot more then that.. but then again i’m just guessing…everybody should at least have enough canned food to last a couple months and other supplies and equipment to live independently..don’t put all ur eggs in one basket because this coming event can play out in many different ways..

      snatchum Reply:

      OFF TOPIC: Proof of chemtrails!!!!

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2.....9193082200

      Chicken Little Reply:

      RUN, EVERYBODY…RUN!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

      TrutherD Reply:

      Awesome chemtrail video: http://nworesearch.blogspot.co.....rails.html

      MAD DOG Reply:

      I’LL JUST USE MY GUNS AND TAKE WHAT I NEED IN RAIDING PARTIES FROM THOSE WHO BRING THIS UPON US.

      Having Some gold is a good idea, BUT Reply:

      Ya gotta survive the economic downturn to get to “The other side” when the new $$$ gets issued. An ounce of gold will trade for a LOT more of the new $$$ than 1,000 old “Dollar Bills” will, ( Thats my guess anyway). During the crash, when people are hungry, gold May be a way to buy from someone who has plenty, but trade between the poor will be food & services.

      whatever Reply:

      Gold and Silver is a good investment that is if you live outside the country. If you live inside the country it’s good to keep gold and silver for later on in the future in exchange for the new currency. Instead of losing everything and starting from scratch with no money.

      An European Voize Reply:

      sorry to say, but growing your own crops
      is the next thing
      they’ll make
      illegal …

      we are trapped!

      Norm Reply:

      Moe, Gold will allways hold great intrinsick value, more when this happens. When it does, you can put seeds , water purifiers, or anything else that makes good, in your pockets and I’ll put gold in mine. With both hands free I’ll still be able to hold my gun.

      Prophetic Warning Reply:

      Well Basically – Good idea except there’s not enough physical Gold left to honour ‘Paper Gold Receipts’ so the moral of the story is….unless you can actually SEE GOLD, don’t dump all your currency into Paper Gold because these receipts will just end up being paid back in USD when the gold exchange declares there’s no Gold. And they will only then pay out Force Majure, and the Gold broker might pick up and leave with your USD and leave you holdng an IOU that you can wipe your arse with.

      If you’re not already in GOLD, buy s--- loads of FOOD and AMMO. These two things will be worth more than any currency circulating in the US very very soon, perhaps even worth more than Gold. They are the ultimate barrter items……You can’t lose.

    14. simpson7777 Says:

      Lets get ready to rumble we need to start buying water , food , camping gear cause all hell is going to break thru anyone want to buy land somewhere else this is the time to get rid of the dollar before is to late and you get stuck with it

      Gary Reply:

      Nothing else is going to be worth anything, either. All the world’s currencies are fiat.

      john832 Reply:

      Gary, you sound like a man who talks some sense. I agree with you!

      h Reply:

      There will be a backup value system. Could be gold.

      S&W .45 Reply:

      Why do people seem to think that if the world ends you will have to camp in the woods? LoL.

      Its like one big glorified camping trip omg we have no dollars lets run to the woods and camp!THat will fix it!

      Gary Reply:

      The thinking is that, as society collapses (and it will), the safest place to be is away from crowded urban areas.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      gary—yep. the cities are gonna be a war zone. what with the troops and the race wars going on.

      Madman Reply:

      Well, Gary and RoadDog6,

      I have to agree with you both here, and also add a little something to the thinking. What good is a patriot movement, if you will, if all the patriots pack the hell up, and give up everything they worked so hard for to go on an extended, never ending camping trip? Also, if everyone runs to the hills, so to speak, then you haven’t went to a secluded spot, we’ve just all made America a nation of nomads.

      What happened to being willing to stand your ground, and fight for what is right?

      You are leaving good men and women behind, to die in the cities, so you can cower in the woods in hopes that the fools will kill each other off!

      Here’s what I say, talk to your neighbors and get some tight friends NOW to cover your ass, if you are going to be in the city, or even if you are planning on bugging out. If you can’t get enough people to secure your neighborhood to allow you and your family safe passage out of the neighborhood, how are you going to get to your backwoods hideaway?

      Someone is going to have to stand up and defend their homes, and bring their neighbors together, to stand as one, and help and support each other, if things do get rough.

      I just think that, everyone will have to make plans, based on themselves… and that sleeping in the cold woods in the dead of winter, doesn’t sound great to most people. What if you and your neighbors worked together, to defend your homes and your families, grow your own food, and spread the hard labor and security amongst many people in your neighborhood, instead of just grabbing your guns and running… because in all likelihood, when you do try to run, so will everyone else… the streets will be flooded with RV’s going to the woods, while rioters toss the owners out of them.

      If you work now, to get something together, with just a few of your neighbors, you might find safety in numbers.

      h Reply:

      The wealthy bankers and elites will bug out to their resort properties in Argentina and the carribean….just like bank robbers of old…..Butch and Sundance. How romantic.

      Gary Reply:

      Madman, it’s easier to defend a position in the woods, where you’re mobile, than it is to defend a house in the city. In the first place, the NWO thugs will know exactly where to come to get you. The thinking here is survival and remaining mobile and stealthy enables you to fight a guerrilla war, striking selected targets and then retreating into the woods where you can’t be found. It’s not going to be a bunch of people going camping.

      h Reply:

      People can make it in communal authoritarian groups…….like my mormon ancestors. But….who the hell wants to do that? I feal chaos could reign.

      StarinaNovak Reply:

      They are thinking about foreclosures. If you have any debt, banks will come after you and take your property.

      EveryKneeShallBow Reply:

      Already foreclosuring on my house and am in bankruptcy. Quit paying credit card balances. Really don’t give a damn.

      brad Reply:

      I think money should not have a value at all, and put in as worthless credit, so they could print out money not just for themselves but every person who needs it. Who cares about debt as long the technology grows and we survive into the future. We don’t have to worry about money because everyone has it. Make everyone have equal amount of money, no crime , no murder, no robbing a bank, no wars, no hunger, no poverity etc etc..

      But my other view is, take out the money system and put in a barter. Increase the technology to do the hard work for us. everyone won’t fight over each other about money. Hockey will be more entertaining, they are playing the sport and not just for the money. Dr.s will be real dr.s who would want to save lives instead of playing god.

      I also think we should lower the prices on everything, so people can afford a house, or that car they wanted , and put credit back into the system.

      h Reply:

      Winter is coming, brother. gather food and firewood. If you are in the norlands, it will be cold and not practical to bug out.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      fighting the nwo cowboy style is not the answer. You’ll die. History has proven over and over again that guerilla warfare wins the war. duck and dodge. ambush. Works every time.You’ll be trapped in cities. Sure, there’s more resourses, but only for so long. They’ll have the city shut down quick, going door to door. It’ll be like shooting fish in the ‘ol barrel.

    15. August Says:

      Very Smart Move Throwing Those Worthless Printed Pieces Of Paper Out!

    16. S&W .45 Says:

      why does obama insist on participating in global affairs. It is clear that they don’t want us involvement. Yet he wants to open the doors of the United States to rape murder and pillage of a totalitarian government.

      brad Reply:

      Hes that anti christ, offering False hope to the world under the guise of world peace. He insists that all religion should forgive each other and he is the one to do it. ( a false massiah )

      h Reply:

      Forget the biblical references. Just stand for what our republic was established for. Simple truth and representation and a maximum of individual liberties and property.

      h Reply:

      It’s the same ole story. And if you’re conservative like me and voted for Bush……twice. Then the other side gets to make you look crazy. It’s the same ole same ole and America continues it’s practices of empire and exploitation.

    17. Hobit Says:

      Yep! just as planed, America your to late to save the republic. Brace yourself for the worst. The war rederick will begin against the Russians and Chinese next. C-span was running an interview of some tribes in China the Chinese have been trying to rid the world of picking up 700 per day never to be seen again,the same propaganda that they used on Iraq to hit them in the first gulf war. I think we may be headed for world war. And if that happens we here in America that opposes these wars will also dissapear. IhopeIm wrong but we may be seeing the propaganda against Russia and China if they go through with this, and you can bet they know the consequeces of threatening the dollar. God our world is being turned upside down all becasue of greed and lust for power.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      hobit—you’re not wrong. What you posted is happening and is going to happen the way you see it.

      StarinaNovak Reply:

      No, China will just dump their dollar assets and crush US economy.

      brad Reply:

      crush the dollar , To make the amero and the NAU.

      oldnamvet Reply:

      brad your right on the money sir.Dont forget that the worlds oil company s count on 200 plus million americans gasing up there cars and makeing electric,so the dollar crash will be just as brad has posted.NAU and amero has to be in place for one world govt plain and simple.
      If ya got any cash in the bank,they will give you one amero for every 10 dollars you have in savings.Thats how I see it,another way to steal your saveings.
      I just filed chpt 7,I dont have s--- in bank,just monthly pension,so they cant screw me too, bad but movie stars,glen beck aint going to be happy with getting one amero for every 10 dollars they have in banks.Us peons will get the last laugh on that,hell they may even trade something like one amero for every 50 bucks or worse.
      So buy food,water,and ammo while you can everyone.

      john832 Reply:

      The bible does predict a world war in the end, and I think we are pretty close to it. The only safety will be in the ark (Jesus).

      roaddog6 Reply:

      f--- the bible and god.

      EveryKneeShallBow Reply:

      Boy, it will be a real kodak moment when you say that while standing before Him.

      h Reply:

      What if we build an ark? Can I take my dog and some chickens?

      h Reply:

      World war means only one thing. Big fat f---ing fire ball. It isn’t worth thinking about. Eat, drink, and be marry. You heard it here.

      h Reply:

      ahem, pardon me. Merry. Oh…too much drinking part.

    18. 3 percent Says:

      This is a little off subject but has anybody seen the video with Desiree Jennings in it? This should be up on infowars, Alex.

    19. Sir Fuxxalot Says:

      Ammunition — Ammo will be the new currency. It ALWAYS has had a very high value, moreso than even gold, when countries collapse !!!

    20. CyBerndt Says:

      China and Russia have been working on this for about 2 years now. If you do your research you will find that China has upped it’s naval forces and are ready if US finds this to be offenses. My feelings are that we will get use to this. Why do you think they have been changing the color of our dollars? We will be merging to the euro pretty soon folks. sooner than you think.

      john832 Reply:

      Have you ever thought about all those Chinese men with no women to marry due to the one child per family rule, and the fact that everyone wanted a son and not a daughter. What else have all these single men to do but go to war? Revelation talks about a 200 million man army coming from the east!

      h Reply:

      don’t talk like that. Yer FREAKING me out!

      John832 Reply:

      Sorry h, I didn’t mean to scare ya’, but I’m just telling you the truth. What this country needs is repentance and faith in God. Jesus came to show us the way, and HE is it!

      EveryKneeShallBow Reply:

      This dream I had about 4-5 years ago was weird. I was sitting in the back seat of a car…don’t know who was driving. We drove up slowly to some kind of checkpoint. There were men in green uniforms standing there checking our papers or something. One of the guys bent down and looked into by car window. He was chinese.

    21. YEAP Says:

      GET READY FOR AMERO !!!!!!!!!!!!

    22. Krzyzmo Says:

      Think this might be a good time for Jesus to make another appearance;
      We can sure use the help cleaning up this mess.

      One by land,
      Two by sea

      Krzyzmo

      TakeAmericaBack Reply:

      Amen to that bro. And remember one thing…Jesus never handled money. Maybe we all shouldn’t accept any currency at all anymore. If everyone in the world decided they’d rather die than use the global elite’s money to live on, then the host will fall from the parasite.

      John832 Reply:

      Read Revelation. We don’t even know what a mess is! And Jesus won’t be back to clean it up until 1/2 the world’s population is wiped out. Think about the nature of man. Has man ever really been able to solve his problems peacefully??

    23. John R. Says:

      Who cares if other countries aren’t using our dollar? It will force us to manufacture our OWN goods and services again, which will be purchased with the Dollar. I really don’t see what the big deal is.

      Bugger Reply:

      The big deal is that the NWO will not allow us to manufacturer any goods, any underground economies will be met with an iron fist. Our only hope is that along the way, when s--- hits the fan the NWO has a substanstial loss that sets back their plans. Maybe we can buy time to rebuild the country and shake off the parasite.

    24. princeofponce Says:

      interest rates

    25. Chris Landis Says:

      The dollar will die and the Amero might be on the way..who knows..

    26. Land Owner Patriot Says:

      I cant eat gold, I cant warm my house with gold, I cant shoot gold out of my gun, gold wont power my lights.

      You dumbasses! Who will take your gold in barter? Its worth nothing if we have to currency.

      Batteries, gas, diesel, food and bottled water will be what will be the main currency after the USD fails in the USA.

      JasonV11 Reply:

      Land Owner… I recommend you check out what’s happening in Zimbabwe, where they are in severe poverty and hyperinflation, they are using gold to buy bread to survive, because there is always someone interested in gold up on top who collects it from those on the bottom.

      Here’s a link for you to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ubJp6rmUYM

      woo hoo Reply:

      Exactly JasonV11

      Money will always be in existence in some form. gold & Silver will have a use in the future to barter for tiems. It will have a hell of a lot more weight for bartering than handfulls and handfulls of worthless paper.

      If you only have a bit of money then obviously get tinned food and water etc. But for those of us who need to protect a bit of wealth then SIlver and Gold r the ways to go.
      - peace ppl

      pissed off Reply:

      i geuss were just going to addapt, instead change this s--- our selves

    27. Internal Patriot Says:

      American currency is not the only currency traded. If our dollar sucks…traders would have no choice but to trade in other global currencies. Taxpayer-consumers should learn the same tricks the market traders use. They are traders and settlers by default anyways. There’s nothing traded unless people trade them. Currency is technically irrelevant as long as both parties have a satisfied transaction.

    28. Draconian Prince Says:

      It’s never too late for America if you’re willing to fight for her and what she truly stands for. America is not the dross that has been put upon her.

    29. Highlanderess Says:

      All these military exercises are in preparation of the collapse of the dollar/banks.

    30. Clark Says:

      Thanks – snatchum – those are the kinds of articles that seem to count. And, it’s not too off topic, without a worldwide Dollar reserve status chemtrails cannot be financed as they are currently. Hoo-fing-Ray! Perhaps this means they will stop spraying the skies over America soon? No more of this, “months on end without seeing the sun” stuff?

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      The chemtrails are an absolutely essential part of the control mechanism.

      They will continue.

      And the things to come that will be dropping out of the sky and into our bodies will be more radical that what we have endured thus far.

      Only the very strongest, in both body and mind, will be able to resist.

      TrutherD Reply:

      Don’t count on things changing… one family has half of the world’s wealth…

    31. JasonV11 Says:

      I suggest reading up on Silver, it’s very cheap because it’s value is so suppressed. Gold is overpriced and not a good deal right now, remember, before 1933 one ounce of Gold =$20, now 1 ounce of gold = about $1050. Why do you think the double eagles state: $20 on the face? This is what they will be worth when the system crashes, granted houses may be worth $100, so 5 gold coins can get you a home, but nevertheless, Gold will still be strong purchasing agent.

      Silver is cheaper now than gold, so you’ll be able to get a higher return on your silver, and also trade with it without attracting the wrong attention to yourself.

      I recommend: http://www.silverbarter.com

      MAD DOG Reply:

      TEAR DOWN THE POWER LINES AND TRADE COPPER.

    32. American Veteran Says:

      truther is back and his post is five times larger and is off topic when will you learn?

    33. Art Says:

      Oh man, this guy needs help!

      roaddog6 Reply:

      a .45 round to put him outta his misery

    34. h Says:

      You can’t say that we didn’t have some warning. We probably asked for it by abandoning the ideas that those “foolish” founding fathers established. I’d say we definitely asked for it. Also asked for it in quite an arrogant fashion. Maybe it isn’t too late for redemption?

    35. Word From The Wise Says:

      Guns & ammo, medical supplies, food, and

      YOUR OWN WATER WELL WITH AN AUX. HAND PUMP for when the grid goes.

      Long range rifle. Intermediate semi-auto rifle with high cap clip. Shotgun. Pistols.

      It will get ugly around my neck of the woods. Too many out here in semi-rural land purposely don’t prepare with anything other than having guns…. and brag that they will take the food and water they need from their neighbors.

      I’m glad some of them spouted off to me about their plans. When it comes down, if they come up my street, that’s what the rifles are for… before they get too close.

      Sad but true. Americans have been devouring Americans after any number of ways.

      It will be much worse in times to come.

      It could actually get to the point that a walking talking human being could be viewed as vittles….

      Check out guinea pigs on youtube. You can breed them with greens from the yard, including wild.
      Very high source of protein and beat out chickens, rabbits in the bang for buck category.

      The vids that will show you how to prepare them are of people in various South American countries who have been enjoying this tasty, elegant (in terms of maximal utilization of space for a protein source and the feed requirements to pull it off) for centuries.

      Get ready to be self-sustaining.

      Learn what greens to grow. Learn what grows wild, as in your natural surroundings.
      Have that elegant protein source that WORKS for you. Wild game will be exhausted before you know it.
      Have that hand pump water well.

      Get to it.

    36. ravenspirt Says:

      Too little too late.The cat is out of the bag..those that are awake are ready…those that are not…like most here ;are doomed.some of you talk of bush or oboma as being responsable..LOL..pawns..neither has the IQ or the connections..Pawns..If you have no food..no protection…then you apparently have no brains either.America killed it’s econnamy..nobody else..oboma…is finidhing it off.They killed the buffalo to beat the indians…there will be no food..water..yes in many places…but no food..at one time the cities had a weeks supply..i believe it is now down to a day or two.all you liberals will become fodder for your pets or for the criminals that you fought so hard to save from justice…aside from complaining ..you have no skills.well aside from complaining and living off the backs of others..goverment workers…intelectuals…buracrats…paracites one and all.the country is about to be fumagated…the free ride is over.it will be ugly..it will be cruel…blaming mommy and daddy…smokers,land owners,buss. people…the previous goverment…is laughable.In fact you all played a huge part in what is about to befall you…lets see what europe does to help you out..or oboma for that matter..you’ll get nothing but speaches..fools..so easily munipulated..you had heaven…you gave it up for hell..serves you right..too bad your kids have to pay….

      Mac-101 Reply:

      Very Mean Ravenspirt, but unfortunately right on. We MUST NOW insist on securing our borders, DRILL and BUILD NOW, reindustrialize American, and quit bankrupting the nation, Fair Tax NOW, tariffs, COMMON SENSE is a MUST! WE have allowed the NWO ELITES to dismantle our nation. The final death strike WILL happen by 2010 if not befor 2012.

      It is most likely TOO late. But PLEASE, let us try to turn it around. Do all you can to awake your family, friends, coworkers, strangers. People who thought I was crazy for the last 3 to 4 years are comming up to me apologizing. Only a BLIND man can’t see what is happening. The speed of destruction is escalting expodentialy!

    37. Draconian Prince Says:

      Truther you Spamer you. Put away your idol of Spam and fallow Spork all Holy.

    38. john flyer Says:

      Obama the EXACTOR will raise Taxes as foretold by Daniel 11:20 and then die naturally within a few days later.

    39. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      5 dancing Israelis arrested on 911 in NYC demand the US start & fight more wars for Israel.

      ~would have been too darn expensive to remove all that asbestos from the twin towers~

      Modern day warrior
      Mean mean stride
      Today’s Tom Sawyer
      Mean mean pride

      Though his mind is not for rent
      Don’t put him down as arrogant
      His reserve a quiet defense
      Riding out the day’s events
      River

      What you say about his company
      Is what you say about society
      Catch the mist catch the myth
      Catch the mystery catch the drift

    40. Say What Says:

      Will someone please stick a dick in his mouth to shut him up !

      Drekx Omega Reply:

      If I did what “Truther” does Alex Jones would ban me…..!!

      DOUBLE STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO CHURCH NUTJOBS, EH ,ALEX OLD BOY…??

    41. amel Says:

      We are in more trouble then a hippo with chapped lips, the dollar will fall very fast and hard i would say the next year to year and a half will be very telling.

    42. coolaking Says:

      i don’t know price of silver but have you seen the price of gold? you might be able to afford it but i’m broke.

    43. The Ghost of Tom Joad Says:

      Hey chicken s--- little,

      When the sky does fall, we’ll see how much fun it is, when your wheel barreling greenbacks, to the store for your hemorrhoid medication, you flippant little cretin.

    44. Richard M. Nixon Says:

      I have an urgent message for you, more important than any message you can hear. God is Holy and cannot accept sin(honor thy mother and father…, thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor, thou shall not covet..etc…Exodus 20:12-17). Here are some verses that show examples of sin:

      “Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” Matthew 5:21-22

      “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:27-28

      “It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” Matthew 5:31-32

      “For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 3:23. Your good deeds cannot cover up your bad deeds.

      “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Isaiah 64:6

      “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12

      You could be perfect in all the law and stumble at one point and it is as if you broke all of them:

      “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” James 2:10

      “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” James 4:17

      God wrote the law on each man’s heart so they are without excuse on judgment day when we will ALL stand before Christ(”Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another” Romans 2:15). The penalty of sin is death and eternal punishment in the LAKE OF FIRE. I am warning you about hell because I love you! You are dead in your sins and headed for hell which is described in the Word as a FIRE THAT QUENCHES NOT(”…the fire is not quenched” Mark 9:44). It is a horrible and terrible place of everlasting torment that people will go because of their sins.

      “And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.” Luke 16:22-24

      “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9

      But God has provided a way for each to escape the lake of fire. He sent his Son Jesus(God manifest in the flesh-1 Timothy 3:16) who was conceived by a virgin by the Holy Spirit of God,lived a sinless life, and suffered a horrible death/shed blood and rose again 3 days later to take the penalty of YOUR sins so you dont have to pay for them in hell for eternity! He loved you so much which is why he did it! He is the only one to have fufilled the law perfectly(sinless) and paid the price of the entire world’s sins so that man could be saved on the merits of His perfection(see Romans 5:19). All you must do to be saved is BELIEVE in Him(trust in Him to save you as a sinner). You must admit your lost sinful condition to Him/that you’re worthy of hell, and ask Him to save you by placing complete trust in Jesus ALONE for salvation(an example in the Word of someone doing this- “And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.” Luke 18:13).It is not even partly by yourselves that you can be saved, but only by the merits of Jesus Christ!

      “For God so loved the world, He sent his only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life” John 3:16.

      “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2

      “…Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,” Revelation 1:5

      “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:3-4

      “Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:29-31

      “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5

      “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:9-10

      No works or anything you do can save you! May God open your eyes, that one day I may see you in heaven. Read the Word of God(the 1611 King James version- NOT the modern versions, they are corrupt) before rejecting it! Death is fleeting. You may NOT have tomorrow! For death comes when we least expect it! Make sure you are saved TODAY! The Bible condemns the rich, the wealthy, and those who take advantage of the poor, so it CANNOT have been made up by the elite. Because the Word clearly CONDEMNS people such as those! It declares all mankind as sinners(myself included).

      I am a Christian, and love you enough to warn you of the dangers of hell. Beware, the Roman catholic church is NOT Christian! The church CANNOT save you but only Christ! Just because someone says they are a Christian does not necessarily mean they are one(remember the crusades in history? Many were murdered in the name of Christianity. These were no Christians at all by their testimony). Please email me to inquire more. I would be glad to help you out in your search for truth!(my email- livingwaters705@hotmail.com)…To those who slander/mock me, I pray for you and love you anyways and hope you will trust Christ before its too late!

      I call upon my fellow Christians on here to return hate posts with love and blessings. The Lord commands us to love them:

      “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew 5:43-45

      Salvation is not found in good works, rituals, church, the pope, water baptism, good lives, etc….But ONLY found by faith in Jesus Christ the Savior!

      If you need prayer or anything, just let me know! I would be glad to help! I love and care for you, and I have prayed that every person that reads this who do not know the Lord, would one day turn to Christ in faith for salvation for their sins. I beg you to turn to Christ in faith before it is too late! You get ONE chance while living and then it is too late forever:

      “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Hebrews 9:27

      “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32

      “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6

      “…there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:21-22

      “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” Revelation 22:17

    45. Matthew Says:

      I seriously recommend that any one who can, get their affairs in order and get out of the US. Central America, South America and South East Asia are all relatively cheap to live in compared with the US, and as far as I know, aren’t building concentration camps, hiring camp guards and stockpiling coffins.

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      It is much harder for the powers that be to clamp down on people, to the extent that such has already been and will be accomplished in the U.S., in a number of countries in the areas you have mentioned.

      I am working on getting out as I write.

      I was just out of the country for 6 weeks attempting to arrange just such a move.
      I would like to be out right now. But some work is necessary before such becomes reality.
      I hope my timing will be right enough and me and mine don’t get, “caught,” in the quagmire that is up the road.

      I am well prepared, insofar as that is possible, for what is to come in the U.S.

      But well prepared is not enough in the long haul. Relatively short, yes. Long, no. The U.S. is too far gone already and the capacity for much deeper enslavement is coiled. Trigger release coming up.

      Your advice is perhaps the best in this thread.

      I concur. If a person can at all swing it, do so, and as promptly as possible.

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      A note to my reply:

      Eventually, the control will get around to every country.

      However, in some countries in the areas mentioned, it will take more time and effort. Such time is precious for living out of a life with some semblance of quality and intrinsic, basic freedom.

      The U.S. is pegged as being High on the time-line-list for The Big Clamp.

    46. 322skull Says:

      Rothschild says…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhfjSM-pgsk

    47. jonsparta Says:

      I always thought, that America (the government) would see sense and become the light of freedom again. as she once in 1941…I never knew how far she has fallen untilnow..

    48. earth angel Says:

      dollars going down… sterling the same,

      over in the uk we are also leading the police state pack. CLAMP ME PLEASE. over here we haven’t even got guns to pick off the police when they come to vaccinate us, and there aren’t even any real woods left to hide out in. maybe i should move to south america where it’ll take them some time amongst the trees !

      it could be worse though, at least ‘global warming’ is big NWO con,

      the worse they can do is kill us…NO FEAR. we all had enough of being afraid and controlled… time to make a stand… at least i can enjoy the fruits of being alive and awake on planet earth. time to get tuned to what this age of humanity is really about, and its not dollars, even if i buy a gold bar, its about waking up, freedom, sharing that and support. build it. find places where we can do that together, live the alternative.

      native americans have faced this before… feeling is we all have something to learn. we aren’t dancing the ghostdance quite yet…

      we ain’t rolling over the NWO…peacefull living free humans on the land will not be tagged, tamed or biochipped.

      ACTION TIME !!!!!! together we are strong

      free mind free spirit. spread the word. spread the love

    49. LUNATIC Says:

      america you weak assed punks all you ever do is talk and wank eachother off.
      your FINISHED LIE DOWN AND DIE!!!!!!! NEXT YEAR ALL YOU WILL BE DOING IS TALKING!!
      YOU GUTLESS BASTARDS IF YOU BELIEVE THE TOUGH TALK s--- YOU PEDDLE THEN FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS.
      ALEX JONES DOSENT EVEN TALK TOUGH ANYMORE HIS INTENTIONS ARE RIGHT BUT HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW WATERED DOWN HIS SITE HAS BECOME.
      TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY NOW OR IT WILL BE TOO LATE.

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      It’s the chemtrailing and attendant electromagnetic-modulation.

      The substances added to foods that have ZERO place other than in electronic circuits (see above).

      Semantic programming, i.e., inculcation of false logics that are non-logics, via mass media and including sites such as this.

      Underpinned, and Capped by The Fear Of Death (Ironic, in that it comes to All Anyway).

      America is Done. Over. Dead. The Sleepwalkers just haven’t received the memo.

      Those are the cold, hard facts.

      For the record, I have been in and out of spook shows since a kid and defense companies since a very young adult. I am now unemployable due to kicking up a major stink about the various arms of the chemtrailing programs.

      I have fought the beast for over 30 years.

      My fellow Americans are not my compadres at all.

      They are what you say.

      It is my intention to live the rest of my live out of the cesspool that the U.S. is, and from there still continue to ring a clarion call for those who may listen and yet Save Their Souls.

      Yeah…. It’s a Mess.

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      A note to my reply above.

      I’ll make this brief.

      It is touching on semantic inculcation of false logics that are non-logics.

      There are many facets.

      But I’ll cut to the chase and bare One:

      Today, I just turned on the t.v. to see/hear what Enemy was propagandizing…

      Senators Kerry and Boxer authoring a Cap and Trade bill.

      IF these two, and their progeny, kids, grandkids, were to be taken out, it would send shockwaves through the Powers That Be.

      It is said, on this site, that acting as such is just, “what they want.”

      THAT is the LAST thing they want, as it would spell curtains for them, the death of themselves and their seed.

      THEY propagate this false logic.

      And those afraid of death themselves, buy into it.

      Don’t take out Your Enemies because that is what they want, the, “excuse,” they need to really make it Bad.

      The truth is, they are Buying Time (your time by the way) with this one, strengthening themselves so they can Really Make It Bad.

      If you will examine this, the end result is the same… following the false logic will result in the Same End Result.

      Do you see and understand the dis-connect from Real Logic and the False Logic that has been programmed into otherwise well-meaning minds… to the detriment of the latter?

      It is possible this communique will fall on deaf ears.
      It is possible that it will garner the knee-jerk reaction of the fearful and well programmed, which will respond with, “Hey Dude, Violence is just what They want!”

      Nothing could be further from the truth.
      They do not want you breaking down their doors and killing them and theirs, putting an end to their reign.

      They manipulate you through your fear and weakness.

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      And, One More….

      I know full well that specifically targeted, effective violence against the powers that be won’t come to pass.

      I know full well that the chaos to come pits people in the lower rungs against their peers in a bloodbath.

      I know full well to get the hell out of this mess and work from abroad on the Soul and Spirit aspect of individuals (all of which will have to give up their lives to attain A Better Shake on the other side of this World, which is a Test), which is just what I am doing.

      As I said earlier, I have been in and out of spook shows as a child.

      And defense since a young adult.

      In the 70s I worked for McDonnell Douglas, then the #1 defense contractor.

      In the 2000s I worked for Lockheed Martin, presently the #1 defense contractor.

      I know full well the weapons mounted against John and Jane Doe.

      I also know the moral, ethical, and spiritual deficiencies of those at the top as well as those at the bottom.

      Yeah…. It’s a mess.

      It REALLY IS ABOUT YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL SOUL at this point.

      Word From The Wise Reply:

      A coda (and this really is it for now)…

      I am and have been on more than a list… more like the map… for decades.

      The fact that I can speak, and do, is because the powers that be know full well they have this thing locked up.

      There is an unwritten rules set that, “We,” play by. Yes, I could have been part of them. Was, to a point, but left the farm.

      I can speak up, for it will make no difference in the larger effect, culmination, of that which is in play.

      May catch an individual here and there, but in the Big Scheme of Things, it won’t impact the overall final result.

      So, be thankful when you hear Truth, and be wary of those who use truth as a carrier wave (for its resonant, opening qualities) to float in deadly lies.

      Bye.

    50. MEGATON Says:

      America is falling and falling fast, we are under attack by our own government, not china, not Russia, America is like a big fat stupid hog whos throat has been slit from ear to ear, strung up
      by its feet , we would have been strung up by our balls but America has been de-balled along time ago, we are bleeding out fast.
      hang on get prepared cause you aint seen nothin Yet!

    51. Matthew Says:

      A REPLY TO WORD FROM THE WISE

      It does look like the US has been scheduled for a clamp down a head of other countries in Central and South America and South East Asia. But that’s only my guess. The US government, even now, works on a level of public transparency that no other countries have enjoyed, so it could be the storm clouds are closer tha

      Matthew Reply:

      Let’s try that again.

      So it could be that the storm clouds are closer than they appear.

      Matthew Reply:

      A REPLY TO A WORD FROM THE WISE

      I think it’d be helpful to put together a list of countries lower down on the timeline – countries where there isn’t evidence to suggest the population are going to be imprisoned, poisoned and killed on large and systematic scale.

      My guess is the less developed countries are safer than the developed ones right now. Their military and law enforcement agencies aren’t as big, disciplined, well trained and well funded as the industrialized nations in North America and Europe, and there is less to be gained from looting their treasuries.

      In South East Asia I’d say, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam might be the best bet. I don’t know about the Americas.

    52. Tymer Says:

      Russia & Iran getting more closer.. (military connection, financial partnership.)
      it seems like.. now China will join with them.
      Russia,China,Iran becoming Allies.. who will stop them,,,

    53. rachel Says:

      the perfect storm is brewing. Food storage is at an all time low in the USA. Our dollar is about to collapse into a black hole, and Israel is determined to attack Iran for no real reason. It’s gonna be just like WW2 all over again.

      Rationed gas, food and a draft. People will be scared that the USA will be attacked by some boogie man enemy. The president’s issues will suddenly be brushed aside as America gears for another war. The media will be the cheerleader.

      Yep, the perfect storm is brewing.

    54. 8ighty8ight Says:

      I don’t think this dollar crisis is a crisis at all. How else are we going to stop using a currency that we are all addicted to unless it fails itself, I say; BRING IT ON .